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For Most, Obama's VP Likely a Blank Slate

Barack Obama's apparent short-list for the No. 2 slot contains names familiar to constituents and politicos, but little known nationwide. So the first challenge for his pick will be to cement a positive image with American public. Sparring with the GOP will follow.

The last time several of the top contenders were listed on the same poll was in December 2006, when the Los Angeles Times and Bloomberg asked Democratic voters their impressions of Evan Bayh, Joe Biden and Christopher Dodd, among others. In that poll, nearly eight in 10 of these DEMOCRATIC voters said they hadn't heard enough about Bayh to have an impression of him one way or the other, three-quarters said so of Dodd and about six in 10 of Biden.

The last time Gallup asked a national sample about Biden, a majority said they either hadn't heard of him (38 percent) or were unsure (17 percent). That was in April 2007. Among those who did express an opinion at that time, 20 percent viewed him favorably and about as many, 25 percent, had an unfavorable impression. A September poll from CBS had different question wording but a similarly large percentage saying they hadn't heard enough about him.

A search of national polls yielded no surveys about Tim Kaine or Kathleen Sebelius.

Being relatively unknown is not necessarily a detriment, only an obstacle. And Obama has better-known options, including his main rival for the nomination, Hillary Clinton. A new New York Times-CBS News poll of Democratic delegates has Clinton the top choice of conventiongoers: 28 percent said Obama should pick her, with Biden next in line at 6 percent. Of course, Clinton won about half of all the delegates through the primaries, spurring relatively high support for the second spot.

By Jon Cohen  |  August 19, 2008; 6:07 PM ET
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Clearly, it will be Tim Kaine who BO chooses. The Obama people have already hired Kaine's frontman and he is already doing the travel arangements for the campaign.

Posted by: Frank | August 19, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden a blank slate.

laughs :D roflmao who wrote this blog?

Biden/Hagel/Kaine/Sebelius

it will be one of them ^ mark my words

Posted by: JEFO | August 19, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I hope whomever Obama picks, it is someone who is not afraid to speak the truth. This race should not even be close, but the Republicans have done such a great job of convincing people that the "liberal" media is a real threat to democracy and too many dumbasses buy it.

It's the Republicans who have gotten us in such a mess and the VP should point this out at every event:
It's the Republicans Stupid

Posted by: smartguy | August 19, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: smartguy | August 19, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me Obama has narrowed down a list of establishment candidates that supported the war. with FISA, iraq war funding, war in iran/afghanistan/pakistan, so much for mr. change guy

Posted by: Bull | August 19, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

At this time, I do not care anymore who Obama picks. He has already made too many mistakes to continue to regard him as a serious contender for the whitehouse. All polls shows that he will loose narrowly to McCain in November. If he is dumb enough not to choose Hillary, he is definitely not worthy of my vote. I will skip this election because no one will be worst than Bush, no one before him and no one after him will match the level of Bush failure.

Posted by: Dressy Pink | August 19, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm very disappointed in the choices. I had hoped Obama would pick a man who could do a lot more than make dull speeches and attend state funerals. For my money Gov. Bill Richardson is not only highly qualified as a politician, a statesman and a manager but he could step into the presidency without breaking stride. We don't need just another pretty face.

Posted by: Phil | August 19, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

If Obama picks Hillary Clinton he will win, if he doesn't it'll be Republican propaganda that wins McCain.

Posted by: chuck | August 19, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

IF OBAMA DONY TAKE HILLARY HE WANT
WIN BUT ITS UP TO HIM TO PICK WHO
HE WANT I HAVE TALK TO A LOT OF MY
FRIENDS AND THEY WANT IF NOT THEY SAID THEY WANT VOTE AND THESE OR
VIETNAM VETERANS SO AM I

Posted by: WILLIW SPEIGHT | August 19, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

If Obama chooses Kaine his chance of winning VA is brighter but not guaranteed. But he still loose OH and FL. If he chooses Even Biye, he will loose IN, VA, OH, FL and even MI. He still loose the election. If he chooses Biden, like all others already mentioned Biden will not bring anything new to the ticket. DE is not in contention, so why choose Biden? Biden lost the primary woefully. He did not even win a single state including his own DE. He might be good on Foreign policy, but is reltively unknown and does not have the global clout of the clintons. So the logic of choosing biden is distressing and too myopic to say the least.

Some people said he want a VP that can help him in the actual governance. That is if he can first win the election. He is not smart enough to use this line of argument. He ought to choose someone that can help him win the damn election first. You do not prepare for marriage without first getting a bride and making it through the wedding. This carte before the horse approach disguises Obama's deep rooted internal struggle that will manifest in all his decision makings in future. I do not know America is ready for another arrogant president that is paranoid and alsways threatened by others success, like the Clinton's success.

How do you govern if you cannot win. Bush ran the nation for 8 long years. If someone like Bush can run a nation, Obama or "anybody" out there can. Any fool can run the nation if Bush made it through 8 long years.

Obama does not have the strategy to win the election and his infantile, arrogance and egotistic nature will be his achillis heels. Like I said earlier a man stupid enough to ignore Hillary is neither smart nor worthy enough to rule this nation.

Posted by: Dressy Pink | August 19, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to pick McCain for VP. They would both win by default.

Posted by: obvious | August 19, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

All these names are a smoke screen. It will be Al Gore.......You heard it first.

Posted by: Think | August 19, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Bayh is perfect. People forget this is a game of electoral votes. Obama doesn't care if a New Yorker likes the idea of Biden being on the ticket better, cause he knows he's got your state no matter what. What he's concerned about is making sure he snags the states he needs. Bayh can carry a hardcore Republican state into the Democratic column. That's no small deal. On top of that he actually brings all the foreig policy creds you folks want him to have, without compramising his message of fresh faces and change.

Posted by: Matt | August 19, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

How do you govern if you cannot win. Bush ran the nation for 8 long years. If someone like Bush can run this nation, Obama or "anybody" out there can. Any fool can run the nation if Bush made it through 8 long years. So the argument that Obama is choosing someone who can help him govern is crazy. Biden has never been a governor.

Obama does not have the strategy to win the election and his infantile, arrogance and egotistic nature will be his achillis heels. Like I said earlier a man stupid enough to ignore Hillary is neither smart nor worthy enough to rule this nation.

Posted by: Dressy Pink | August 19, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

A blank slate choosing a blank slate. Imagine that. Except, I think Obama would have to look high and low to find a slate blanker than his own. And he surely doesn't want anyone who might outshine him, so there you go. Good luck, fans!

Posted by: Judy Kilgore | August 19, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Thinking back to the Democratic primary debates, Obama and Biden always seemed at ease with each other and respectful towards the other's viewpoint even when they disagreed.
I think the comfort level is going to have a lot to do with Obama's choice...and it'll be (I hope) Joe Cool.

Posted by: Brookside | August 19, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

1. Bayh does not have or own IN and cannot bring IN. IN is a red of red states. They will vote for a red dog, a blue rat, a green sheep and a black goat before they vote for a Democratic president let alone a black democrat. IN has never voted Dem for almost 80 years. Hence it is lunacy to think that Obama of all people will win IN because of Bayh. It is this type of laughable mindset, that makes me conclude that obama is definitely not ready to be a man let alone a leader.

Party activists from Red caucus states made Obama the nominee but go to Realclearpolitics.com and see that none of those red states are back to Obama camp. None. To get the red states, you need more than empty rhetorics. You need substance and you need to speak their language. Obama is too fake to mimic the language of the south and they will not be deceived by a black democrat.

Posted by: Dressy Pink | August 19, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

If this is the shortlist i would have to say go with Hillary (much as I disliked the way she ran her campaig). I just don't see the other guys adding anything substantive.

Bill Richardson would be my other main choice

Posted by: Sipa | August 19, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

It'll be a big surprise: either Gore or Kerry

Posted by: pundit | August 19, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Another poorly written blog by the WP. I swear they hire all college interns so they can pay them dirt cheap. Seriously Joe Biden an unknown? He's one of the most distinguished senators in the country.

Don't write an article that shows Joe Biden as being unfamous when he's one of the most famous. BTW he's a great man too.

Posted by: Caleb Hartz | August 19, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

(Dr.-) Ron Paul would be handy as vp. he's intelligent, has a sharp wit that can standup to Carl Rove style politics; he seems to be above politics as usual.(which should be over with anyhow) He ran as libertarian years ago and brings a sense of purpose to his decisions.

Posted by: Curtis (ab-canada) | August 19, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

nunn or clinton would be the best picks - in that order. He needs someone people are already familiar and comfortable with - AND has lots of foreign affairs/national security experience. But being a democrat he'll probably blow it.

Posted by: mtdon | August 19, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

In order to be President, BO must WIN. Who can be better as a VP candidate than one who has garnered 18M votes ? Elementary.

Posted by: SFOSS | August 19, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I agree- it will most likely be Tim Kaine. They seem very similar to eachother- both are young, both took time off from college to help communities, and both believe in the same kind of new change. Obama is going to pick a person very similar to himself for such a position.

Posted by: john | August 19, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

How the democratic party rejected their best candidate is beyond me. I will be sitting this one out.

Posted by: ralph v. campos | August 19, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama wil win the presidency with anyone he chooses as the VP. Repubilcans have been giving this great nation mediocre candidates like Mccain. Can you imagine the story I read today in CNN website? That Mccain graduated 894 out of 899 in a school in Annapolis?

Posted by: UkU0006@Yahoo.com | August 19, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a Napoleon complex which prohibits him from relating to folks with bigger clout than him. Obama is afraid of the Clintons success. He does not want anyone to outshine him. All these VP names mentioned by Obama camp all tends to be subserviant and will take a back seat, and become "yes" men if chosen. Bill Clinton treated Gore as equal, Reagan treated Bush snr as equal, Obama does not want anyone that will compete the spotlight with him or work with him as an equal. He has a serious ego problem that if unchecked, we are in for a very rough ride if smell the corridors of real power.

Perhaps Obama is afraid of Cheney/Bush situation where Bush is the puppet and Cheney the master with all the strings. if this is the case, Obama has over-corrected and his fears will guaranty his loss in the fall. Because this fear has prevented him from choosing the strongest ticket Hillary who will not only unify the party but bring in all constituencies that will guarantee a landslide in fall.

Posted by: Dressy Pink | August 19, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing: As you look at the line-up for the Democratic convention, Tim Kaine's name is nowhere on the list. Everyone else named in this blog is slated to speak. Also, Kathleen Sebelius is not on the roster to speak. So, ladies and gents, which will it be: Sebelius or Kaine.

Posted by: John | August 19, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

It amazes me, truly, how people think. We are so hypnotized by the media that we have actually forgotten how to think. And we have also forgotten how powerful we, the people of the U.S., are. Younger Americans have come up through one of the most horrid of all presidents this country has ever had and now that our economy has been stricken down by blunder after blunder and greed piled on top of greed, we will soon see our needs provided by the Chinese. Look at what China has done in Angola for example. Our economy has stopped growing and the rest of the world, including 3rd world nations, are tasting the riches we have provided for so long. They now want more.
I, for one, support a borderless world, if this planet is to survive.

Posted by: Joel | August 19, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm rooting for Gov. Richardson. McCain is cool and voted for him over Bush, but I'll be voting Obama this time even if he picks Quayle.

Posted by: Jules | August 19, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden says it's not him, so that leaves the impression that Obama wants to raise a KAINE from Virginia:

http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/08/breaking-news-barack-obama-to-campaign.html#links

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | August 19, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

dressy, ignore hillary, she ignored him! look what happened.

Posted by: greg patton | August 19, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I noticed exactly the same thing as John -- Kaine's name appears nowhere on the list of convention speakers. Sebelius appears on the list I've seen, so Kaine appears to be the only major contender not identified as a DNC Convention speaker. Given that Virginia is one of the most critical swing states in this election, given Kaine's popularity in Virginia, and given the fact that Kaine is actually originally from Missouri and Minnesota (other key swing states), I'd say there's a high likelihood that Kaine is Obama's VP pick.

Plus, Kaine makes more sense than the other potential VPs identified by the New York Times and other media outlets recently -- Joe Biden and Evan Bayh. Biden is a Washington "has-been" who garnered no support as a presidential candidate and who has a long history of gaffes, including ripping off speeches from a Labor Party MP in Britain. Bayh would be a better pick than Biden, but Obama should know that the Democrats have no realistic chance of winning Indiana in a close election. Moreover, Bayh is more of a moderate, and I would guess that the left-wing Obama would prefer a more liberal successor. Both Biden and Bayh are long-time Washington insiders whereas Kaine allows Obama to run as an "outsider" seeking "change."

Another key fact indicating that Kaine is the VP choice: former Virginia governor Mark Warner is the keynote speaker on Tuesday. Warner is the ONLY keynote speaker who is not an Obama or a Clinton. This strongly suggests that Obama is making a real push to take Virginia; Warner would help solidify Obama's efforts there, and he could personally vouch for Kaine as VP.

It's possible that Obama could choose someone else, but a lot of circumstantial evidence points to Kaine.

Posted by: Me | August 19, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Why all this talk about Hillary? If Barack chooses her as his VP, he'll lose for sure. I think all the Hillary supporters are closet racists. Why is it okay for Hillary's supporters to keep pulling out the gender card? When we all know why they supported her in the first place.

Posted by: Barbara | August 19, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama should think very seriously about picking Hilary for VP. Many women in this country will not forgive Obama if Hilary is not chosen and he Obama will definitely lose to Macain

Posted by: Peter&Paul | August 19, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

If he picks anyone other Clinton then there is a great and very distinct possibility he will lose the election. Probably 20% of Clinton voters will go with McCain ..my math says that nearly 2 million voters, vpters that ordinarily would be a solid democratic voters. Remember OH, PA, NM, FL and maybe NJ, all these states will be knife edge states that with Clinton supporters he might carry ...he only needs to lose one of these states to lose the election. If he picks anyone other than Clinton, go place a bet on McCain to win and you will make money. And Obama will go down as the biggest POLITICAL IDIOT in the history of American elections.

Posted by: Michael NY | August 19, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Lots of people seem to think that picking Hillary would help Obama win. Don't be too sure. By picking her, he would shore up support among many democrats, especially women, but he would lose ground in the other two key categories:
Independents-- Obama is popular among independents because he is seen as independent of the establishment, what with his not taking lobbyist or PAC money. It would be a hard pill to swallow for independents that he would pick a Clinton. They might instead turn to McCain, who is still widely seen as a maverick despite his recent pandering to conservatives.
Republicans-- the conservative republican base is less than enthusiastic about McCain, and while they will not vote for Obama, they are likely to turn out in significantly smaller numbers than they did in the last election cycles. That is, unless there's a Clinton on the democratic ticket. Unfortunately, republicans vehemently hate Hillary. Nothing would mobilize the republican base better; Obama would likely have no chance in a lot of the traditionally Republican southern states he hopes to challenge this year.

So should he pick her? I'm not sure whether the cons outweigh the pros. I personally believe that almost all Hillary supporters will, over time, realize that their candidate shares almost identical positions with Obama. It was, of course, for that reason that the democratic nomination focused so much on personal traits: there were few meaningful policy differences to debate. But November could prove me wrong.

Posted by: Democrat | August 19, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

As long as it is not Biden for a VP pick. I heard recently that there was domestic violence against him.

Posted by: Najeeb | August 19, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

From looking at the comments. Unless the Obama and his people cannot read ..they will pick Clinton for VP. As evidenced by most of the comments on this blog that is what the country wants ... an Obama Clinton ticket.

Posted by: Michael NY | August 19, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

This is for "smartguy" - I believe it was Islamic fundamentalists that really started most of the mess. On top of that, Bush inherited a lot of crap from a real screwup by the name of Bill Clinton. The real catch to all of this is, after 9/11, the U.S. screamed for revenge and war. Then the U.S. went to war. Keyword here is WAR. War implies that there will be casualties on BOTH sides of the fight, otherwise it's referred to as a SLAUGHTER. There is a huge difference in the two. If the Dems had any real intelligence about them, they would realize that sending obscene amounts of money to countries such as Iran to "stop" production of nuclear devices is a waste of time and well, money. Maybe they should push for cutting off money to those countries and focus the funding on finishing the job in Iraq, which despite what CNN would have you believe, is getting better day by day. Before you make any other genius statements, don't point fingers at a single political party. Point the finger and lay the blame on the wishy-washy hypocrisy that plagues our society. Bush made a decision based upon what the U.S. wanted and he stuck to it. Jimmy Carter might say that Bush is the "worst" president ever, but what the hell did Jimmy Carter ever do or have to do, other than nothing? He was never challenged and never had to make unpopular decisions. Nothing but trouble will arise if Obama is elected...I don't see how people could vote for his policies when he doesn't even know what his policies are. He keeps changing them and altering which side of the fence he's on just to try and win votes. I think that one day, in 12 or 15 years, when he has a little more experience and wisdom under him, along with WELL-DEFINED policies, he might give someone else a run for their money, as it were.

Posted by: Some other guy | August 19, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

democrat, right on the head. repubs hate hillary.

Posted by: greg patton | August 19, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't pick Hillary Clinton, then he shouldnt win in Nov. 18 million of us voted and now we want Hillary as V.P.
You hang in Girl.

Posted by: robert | August 19, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I heard Obama speak today about ways to deal with Russia. He offered a far more expansive, detailed and sane approach than anything I have seen from the McCain camp, and this is after a full week of McCain touting his own experience with Georgia (which, on close inspection, is not even his own experience). Surely McCain has something more nuanced in mind than his 'bomb, bomb, bomb' approach to Iran. Surely he must. But he doesn't.

That said, I will trust anyone Obama chooses to be VP. I think Obama knows what he's doing.

Posted by: John from NC | August 19, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Analyzing the situation from a purely political point of view--the ideal running mate would surely be GEN. WESLEY CLARK! Not only does he have a military, combat and international record (a 4-star general, Vietnam vet with silver star, and savvy commander of operations in Kosovo) that far outstrips McCain's, he's also politically savvy (he's made the trip before), is extremely telegenic!, articulate, bright, progressive in views, and in his controversial remarks about McCain's qualifications, told a truth that hurt--mostly Republicans, and especially their candidate. It would, from certain points of view, be a far-out choice (& he was a strong Hillary supporter), but for that very reason, much more of a media splash than any of the other current supposed front-runners. I realize it's unlikely to happen, but because I believe he'd be, by far the strongest choice, I continue to pray that Obama surprises everyone by going this route.

Posted by: Alan M. Kriegsman | August 19, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

All you Hillary people make me sick. She lost....get over it already.

Posted by: harold | August 19, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

It's a mute point. Obama and the marxist elite will not convince the south and the heartland that their agenda is really "change" for the better.

Remember kids, the U.S. is a center-right society. Not a center-marxist society.

Posted by: reality | August 19, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

i agree maybe that is why her ass is out of the race we will have to see what these dick heads do for our country i personally dont want to vote for none of them

Posted by: dakota | August 19, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Just what the country needs...2 blank slates!! LOL!!

Posted by: dragonfly777 | August 19, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

If it is Joe Biden, then I vote for McCain, no question. I can't stand Joe Biden. Anybody but Biden, then I vote for Obama.

Posted by: Joseph | August 19, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Hillary? You've got to be kidding. Thats just what this country needs another Hillary and Bill era. Haven't we had enough of the same people running the USA? I like the Wesley Clark idea.

Posted by: timeforchange | August 19, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

good giggity goo there are a lot of backward ass people on this site. right, obama is going to lose if he doesn't pick clinton as his vp..

Posted by: wow | August 19, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Amazing to see so many folks talk about how Obama is afraid of Hillary, or too egotistical to accept her as VP. I was very impressed by her during some of her speeches, but honestly, I think she is personally responsible for destroying her chance at VP because she wanted Pres so bad she became a sore looser, wouldn't step aside gracefully, and reverted to near coercion with "her voters." I think if she would have ACTED like a VP once she realized she couldn't win, maybe someone would have treated her like one!

Posted by: chuck | August 19, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

When all them lily livered white poltroons get in the election booth, they're gonna hear the twangin of the banjo. And it aint tellin 'em to vote for Mr. Obama.

Posted by: Barn E Fife | August 19, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

no question, it's biden. smart, feisty, well-rounded....and a great attack dog.

Posted by: mike from nc | August 19, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

The VP candidate who thinks and sounds the most like Barach Obama is Tim Kaine. If Bayh is the choice it will smell of Rovian politics. Almost anybody is better than Bayh.

Posted by: Ronnn | August 19, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Just great. A blank slate to go with a blank slate.

Posted by: AG | August 19, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse


re domestic violence?

Biden was author of the 1994 Violence Against Women Act...
and Biden wrote a bill that would create an electronic network of 100,000 lawyers willing to do volunteer work on behalf of victims of domestic violence. The bill would also set up a fund to help a separate group of lawyers--those who spend a majority of their time working on behalf of domestic violence victims--pay back their school loans.

Posted by: mike | August 19, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

To the poster that wrote about some sort of domestic dispute regarding Joe Biden, you are spreading untruths that are very detrimental to our polital process. I have not voted for Joe Biden since I was 18 and you can say a lot of negative things about him but he does not and did not abuse his wife. In fact, I will bet that you did not know that his first wife and two year old daughter were killed in a car accident right before he was sworn into office his first term. They died 12/18/72. He spent his first term in office driving back and forth from DE to DC daily to make sure that he was home for his two young sons (who were also injured in that accident). This is a man that cares about his family

Posted by: FromDelaware | August 19, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat .. at this point, an angry one. If Obama does not choose Clinton, he will not be able to win. You don't need to be a political stratagist to see this. More importantly, I am among the educated baby boomer women, a public school teacher, and hopeful by nature. My father comes from a tobacco farming background. My parents (who still vote) are Republican Virginians.

That Obama is percieved as inexperienced, black, of questionable personal and religious affiliations are real obsticals to overcome.

And he needs more than Va. to win this election. Much more. The race is too tight to take unnecessary risks.

Choosing Clinton would signal his ability to reason wisely, govern confidently. There is the need for Obama to demonstrate ethics and humility.

If Obama will allow himself to be intimidated by the shadow of Bill Clinton, I am not convinced he can handel the critical and numerous demands the Presidential office at this time in history.

He must get himself in the White House first. This choice means everything toward that. Obama simply cannot afford to take the risk of losing to a lesser known vp candidate. He may as well throw us all under the bus if he does...it will not be the country he is thinking of, that's clear.

And the first consideration beyond that, is could this person really assume the role of President, should it be necessary? It appears no one is thinking about that minor detail.

Posted by: Deborah Winstead | August 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Retired General Wesley Clark. The Rovian GOP is scared of him and actually thinks it knocked him out of the race with its half-assed campaign against his patriotism. Soo-prise, soo-prise, GOP chickenhawks!

Posted by: Kitty G. | August 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Instead of everyone making ignorant comments about a candidate most of the people who have responded have never even taken the time to learn about, why not read his books or learn about his history and political backround. Obama is niether inexperience, nor nieve, nor is he stupid. His decision will be a smart, helpful candidate to help his campaign and later hopfully help in his presidency. Hillary supporters need to realize that if you vote for McCain instead of Obama out of spite you are ignorant to politics and should just stay home and learn about government. Obama won the primary and you need to accept it and stop whining and get on board with the democrats who share your views!

Posted by: kyle | August 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Never underestimate the ignorance and stupidity of the American voter. Just read these comments. Take a look at what has happened to this country since Reagan became president. We are a nation of conservatives even after it has been proven repeatedly to be a failed, outdated political philosophy. America was damned when it re-elected GWB. The fact that this election will be close is testimony that we are doomed and will never learn. We the People are corrupt to the core, and America has lost its luster and its relevance. I sincerely mourn the death of America.

Posted by: David Hughes | August 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

how does picking Biden constitute Change? Picking Biden is following in the BUsh/Cheney model. imo. young guy with old grey haired dude in the background

Posted by: skippy | August 19, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Hey, someotherguy, get a clue. Yes, America went to war, WITH AFGHANISTAN AND THE TALIBAN. Kindly show one iota of proof of any kind that Saddam was a threat to the US or had any hand in 911. Most of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, as every kid in the country knows by now. NONE were from Iraq.

Oh, wow, the Clinton screwups. Yes, he screwed up by not allowing the spending to exceed the income, thereby earning the enmity of the Republican "all for the wealthy" classes. Getting 6% interest by issuing the country's money is a deal that can't be allowed to go by the board. The biggest scam in the world, and the most profitable, and Clinton got in the way of it. Guess we know how you make your money.

Posted by: PD | August 19, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed that half the pro-Hillary or anti-Obama posts are almost impossible to decipher? Hillary did get almost half the vote: the illiterate, the elderly, the angry females. Most of them weren't voting for Hillary but against a black man. The feminist vote was anti-male of any color! These people aren't going to vote for Obama even with Hillary on the ticket. They'd still be stuck with a black, male president and an old broad they didn't really want in the first place. Wake up, people.

Posted by: Sarah | August 19, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is the only choice among the contenders who gives Obama a clear shot at getting into the White House.

Posted by: Gene Willeke, Oxford, Ohio | August 19, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

what a shame --it should be obama and edwards

Posted by: tony sacco | August 19, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Kathleen Sebelius for sure. A woman who's smarter and less brash than Hilley. Plus she can carry Ohio and other upper midwest states due to her father's influence.

Posted by: BillYBobChickenChoker | August 19, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

IT Doesn't Matter... it really doesn't... BO can pick ANY person named above and it will be fine!!! Chill out.. get a beer, Relax. BO and team beat the undisputed heavyweight Champion of the Democratic world, Hillary.inc. They got Brain! Do you?

Posted by: Yawn.. | August 19, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

If Obama can't handle the Clintons and other people "on our side", how can he be expected to deal with the likes of Putin? Come on people, it's the Presidency - not a reality TV show. How can Obama's supporters have so little faith in his strength? Look beyond the personality cult and hope that your candidate has the fortitude to handle the relatively friendly arena of the Democratic party. It's a big bad world out there.

Posted by: Susan | August 19, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Of course it matters who Obama picks. But he has to be careful not to pick someone that makes him look lacking. If he picks "old", he's too young and compensating. If he picks "military experience", it shows his lack thereof. Etc....
I'd love to see him pick a Republican.
Regardless, he's a much better pick than "I have nothing more up my sleeve than to use baseless attacks" McCain. Been there, seen that. That's what got us the Bush years.
I hope that people will see through it, but given some of the opinions I've seen posted here and elsewhere, I have my grave doubts.

Posted by: AndyM | August 19, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Dressy Pink,

Please check your facts (and your spelling, grammar, punctuation and capitalization) before you post your comments anywhere.

The last time Indiana voted for a Democrat in a presidential election was in 1964, for then President Lyndon B. Johnson. That is much closer than the eighty years you were citing in one of your poorly written posts.

Also, you should check the political climate in Indiana a little bit closer. Indiana currently has more Democratic elected members of Congress than Republican, with Evan Bayh receiving a higher percentage of votes than any other Hoosier in the Senate or the House of Representatives.

Posted by: historystudent | August 19, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

"It's the Republicans who have gotten us in such a mess and the VP should point this out at every event:
It's the Republicans Stupid"

Yes, this is true. But does the answer lie in Obama's socialist/statist policies? Europe is trying that now; it is not working. Why should it work for us? I fail to see a logical connection.

Check out Fareed Zakaria's article in Newsweek titled "What Bush Got Right" Really great eye-opener. And no, It's not pro-Bush.

Posted by: John | August 19, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Joe Biden a blank slate. WOW!!!!

I'm voting for Obama and whatever Blank Slate He picks. Even if its Jon Cohen. The Author of this sleezy article.

Posted by: MONTANA VOTER | August 19, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

There is much interesting comment here and some of it offers some value to the speculation. But, thus far this is simply speculation by interested, and in some instancres, angry Democrats. This will be a close election no matter who is chosen as VP as the count can go either way in several critical states. So, BO needs to select someone who will serve the nation and the election well.
All the mentioned candidates would serve us well. As always, it is the responsibility of our Presidential nominee to make this honorable selection, unlike what President Bush did on his past two opportunities. Courage is needed here, not expediency.

Posted by: gil, washington state | August 19, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama should pick Richardson. He will be popular with the hispanics and get votes in key states. More engaging personality than Boring Biden or Incompetent Hagel and other Washington politicians.

Posted by: Ramone | August 19, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Believing that the majority of Senator Clinton's supporters (or at least the number needed by Obama) will, over time, come around, is akin to believing that Senator Clinton will somehow win the nomination at the Democratic Convention.

Posted by: Judy Kilgore | August 19, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

i like reading the main article but i 'fess that reading the commentaries and to-and-fro of the few who go-for-it in this section is what makes my day, insofar as reading the news.
I mean, I very much groove on the news-in-itself, but to see and be a part of the incredible diversity of opinions, most of which intrigue me, especially because like good old Charlie Brown, the best facts are those that one makes up oneself. Peace

Posted by: recoveringalco | August 19, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Enough with the MSM punditry and analysis what qualities or who should be Barack VP. The choice is Obama's and his only. Undecideds or leaner could either accept this choice or move along.

Posted by: NoRules | August 19, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Enough already with the MSM analysis and punditry on what qualities or who should be Barack's VP nominee. Negate HRC, its not about her. The choice is Obama's and his only. Undecideds could either accept his choice or move on.

Posted by: NoRule | August 19, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Senator obama.
Every body saying without Hillary you cannot win this election.Choice is yours.Think again seriously,listen to people.
Otherwise you will end up being a looser.I am not a Hillary Baker,but definitely I want you to win,for yourself,for our people and our country.

Posted by: mkarimsyed | August 19, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

My pick for VP would be Sam Nunn or Tom Daschle. Obama biggest weaknesses are that he lacks experience and heft especially in foreign affairs and that he is perceived as not fully American. Nunn is the elder statesman with the foreign policy rep much like Dick Cheney was in 2004. Daschle is the former majority leader whose laid back personality and all American persona would boost Obama appeal. Both Nunn and Daschle would boost Obama's stature and would be excellent character witnesses. Obama's still leading in the polls but he clearly is being weighed down by American's doubts about his fitness to lead. Surrounding himself with solid elder statesman like Nunn and Daschle is desperately needed. These two would put McCain back on his heels and even up the experience gap. This is all that is holding back Obama from easily winning.

Posted by: Steven G | August 19, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

As Americans, we are an arrogant yet uneducated lot -- prima donnas with an inferiority complex. We bleat and pout and preen ourselves like livestock, oblivious to the slaughterhouse ahead of us. We have always... and will always... get precisely what we deserve. The mettle of our society and the strength of our character has always defined America. Our leaders are a reflection of our collective soul. Whether you're Red, Blue or any shade in between, look at the last twenty years of this "great experiment" called democracy. Now... what, not who, do you really believe we'll watch in their first 100 days in office? As an optimist with experience, I mourn both of the last two decades...

Posted by: wrektekdiver | August 19, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Obama's short term goal is to win white house. Keeping that in mind, I believe that he will choose Hillary. There could be thousands of reasons for him not to choose her, but for the sake of winning election, he should choose her as the running mate.If he believe that his charisma and straight forwardness will get the votes of Ametricans against the whole republican machine, he is just day dreaming. I mean... come on... with such a scheming person like Hillary against him, his chances are bleak. Ofcourse she has to make the republican win this election, if she wants , a go at it in 4 years time.

Posted by: Sunny Joseph | August 20, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

I have great respect for Sen. Obama & will trust anyone he and Caroline K. can agree on.
I'll never trust J McC with anyone or anything.
When you get right down to it, isn't that the way most of us feel?
Still, my secret hope is that Obama surprises us with a spectacular choice like Al Gore, assigned to solve America's renewable energy source problem once and for all.

Posted by: Bob Mosher | August 20, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

I REALLY don't get it when people say that if Hilary is not chosen as VP, then her supporters will vote for McCain. I never heard of anything so absurd. They would help put her opponent in office because she wasn't on the ticket? Are they Democrats or not??? Whatever the party stands for goes out the window because she wasn't chosen? Puh-lease.
Bush has been such a disaster..he's such a ninny. Putting McCain in will keep us in Iraq for who knows how long and at what cost? This war has cost billions and last I looked our economy was not doing so well that we could afford to keep this up indefinately. We do not have to solve all the world's problems.
I'm voting for Obama whoever he picks for VP.

Posted by: Mosie M | August 20, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I suggest disentangling your attention from the two individuals who are running for office and focus on the issues. Where do you want the country in 4, 8 years? If you are happy with the direction that the country is going then stick with the party that is in power today. If not then look at the other party. That is all folks, no name-calling and getting upset needed.

Posted by: Tom | August 20, 2008 1:01 AM | Report abuse

If it's really not Biden, maybe it's Bayh but my coins are on Biden for his maturity, his depth, his candor and vigor and if he's not VP then he'd be DOD or Dept of State. All the people who want Hillary should just consider that she is actually over qualified to be VP. She's too presidential for that job. Unfortunately, she ran a shockingly poor campaign despite working as hard as a stevedore and never admitting defeat. In that way, she's heroic but she managed her money badly and her people and she didn't remember to communicate her vision as much as to undermine her rival. I see McCain trying to do the same and wonder if he paid attention to the primary? Evidently not.

Posted by: Gaias Child | August 20, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

If Obama wants to win, he better choose Hillary.

Posted by: GCL | August 20, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

To those reading the comments. Disregard all the pro Hillary comments that Obama's only chose should somehow be Hillary Clinton. That's a load of bull from suspect H. supporters (likely McCain operatives) trying to poison the blog. Only a fool would chose a running mate that purposely tried to derail their candidacy and outright said their rival from opposite parties was better to lead than them. Hillary kissed her VP chances goodbye back in March and April of this year.

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS!! to so these so called H.supporters/McCain operatives.

Us Democrats aren't stupid. This young fellow here definitely isn't, and I am on to your every move to counter your blatant attempts at sabotage.

If Sen. Obama believes he needs to tap in stronger women support, he has a qualified candidate on his short list. Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. Pro-Feminist, Feminist will rally their support behind a potential female president, so you can keep on dreaming on the idea that people will be outrage by that choice.

To others on Biden, I slightly agree that a Biden pick wouldn't make since. I personally think he is a smoke screen along with Tim Kaine.

Posted by: JEFO | August 20, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

I'm 61 years old & never voted for any Republican in my life, but if Obama doesn't get Hillary for his running mate I'll vote for McCain. Who are those other jokers this article mentioned. ?

Posted by: SadAmerican | August 20, 2008 4:01 AM | Report abuse

Gen. Wes Clark is the best pick for VP!

Posted by: Phil LaMarche | August 20, 2008 4:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey, hey, hey, I say Dr. Dre for VP.

Posted by: stevefromellicottcity | August 20, 2008 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter one way or the other because he will be assassinated quickly,even if it has to be from within the government itself,this happens you will see the worst rioting ever in the history of the U.S...L.A. times a hundred or so.Even if that doesn't play out like that our economy is about to fail,and to all the people that don't support us in Iraq,think about this...for the first time in history the dollar is about to become worth 70 cents against the Euro,and when we pull out of Iraq without staying for the oil in 2 to 4 years they to will go along with the rest of the middle east and trade oil for Euros not dollars,sure we shouldn't have went there but we should get the oil,4000 men died there from here and we spent and sent god knows how many billions there,I think they at least owe all of us 2 DOLLAR GAS for 1 year,with our relations with China,Russia,Korea,hell the whole PLANET the way it is,we owe to much money to pay it back,and the government have screwed us so long on everything they could,were broke,running on reserves,natural resourses growing thinner,its just a matter of time before its time to pay the piper...were screwed PERIOD,CANADA better build a VERY

Posted by: BLAHBLAHBLAH(revised) | August 20, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

New poll out this morning-Obama is 5 point DOWN! With his"aura"waning and inexperience showing allover the place against a veteran like McCain he better pick some one like Hillary who will add someweight to the ticket-not nobodies like Buyah(spelling?)Sebelius(who?)BTW, whats up with that"McCain doesnt know what he is up against"comment from a beginner nobody? Maybe OK in Chicago but a stupid line to use against some one with McCains background.

Posted by: joe | August 20, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Great, 2 blank slates running the country, and no Hillary.

I'll see you in 2012

Posted by: c FROM PA | August 20, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

[MSNBC Quote] Bayh has been a staple of speculation since at least June, when he broke with veepstakes protocol (smile, blush and say you plan to keep your day job) and confessed that he'd accept the job if offered. "I don't think it's the kind of thing you say no to," he told MSNBC on June 26. [End Quote]
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Apparently all of the top Democratic choices out there already said, "No to Obama." The Obama campaign is out of action and dead in the water. The desperation really showed last Sunday when the Obama handlers and their NBC operative Andréa Mitchell failed to create enough smoke about Senator McCain "being so well prepared" during the faith discussion. Watch for the desperation to increase among Obama’s handlers, his supportive media figures, and even the remaining hardcore among his rank and file. In the end, the Obama campaign will be a text book case of how to lose a presidential campaign.

The real question now is from whom among the best of the best will John McCain's pick for VP before taking the office of the presidency.

Posted by: Richard, OIF-2006/07 | August 20, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Republican vision for America . Population of Drones that ask no question and die in vain.McCain is your Troll for this to happen.White males can make this happen.Iam an old man makes no different to me.I'll suck it in if republican win.I save my gold.We are in a Recession after that is the Depression. Tax cut will mean print more money Inflation the beging of McCain future economy. Brother can you spare a dime.

Posted by: barry barry | August 20, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

there is no way this election is going to be close. for folks to start to believe in the polling number is crazy. this is conditioning. polling is bs. jeesh. how much longer are people going to be manipulated. the republicans win this election and there is not out rage and folks rationalize by saying well it was always close get the government they deserve. the time is near where folks will have to decide on an individual basis what kind of civil disobedience is appropriate for them . come on folks open your eyes.

Posted by: skippy | August 20, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Evan Bayh, great pick. Surprise pick is Bloomberg.

Posted by: Sue | August 20, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

If BO chooses HC, I will vote for him, if anyone else, I will vote for Mccain and so will a ton of other people...We want Hilary in the office!

Posted by: Nuala | August 20, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

If BO chooses HC, I will vote for him, if anyone else, I will vote for Mccain and so will a ton of other people...We want Hilary in the office!

Posted by: Nuala | August 20, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

In the light of Saddleback Church forum, I don't even think with the help of Hillary Clinton Obama can be resurrected. He is quickly becoming a lame duck. "Um, ummm, um, I, umm, feel, um, umm, they, um, umm, republicans, um, um, I, um, yes, um, we, umm, can't. Ladies and Gentle! I recommend John Kerry as Obamanation VP pick. It will guaranteed us another Republican President for 4 more years.

Posted by: Black Conservative | August 20, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Governor Richardson is the most experienced of all on the short list. He works well with Obama. And everyone knows his name so he doesn't have to waste time in hitting the campaign trail.RICHARDSON IS THE COMMON SENSE AND SMART CHOICE FOR OBAMA'S VP, NO QUESTION!

Posted by: stinpol | August 21, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

I repeat: The winning combination is
1. Hillary - president
2. Obama - VP

This will appease the white majority who are still not ready for a "colored" president, and will allow Obama the freedom to work on his real causes - of improving the lot of the middle and lower sections of the American society.

Posted by: J Tom | August 21, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Why do you think Obama hired Patti Doyle to head the VP staff?
If your answer is to piss HRC off, think again. Why in the hell would he want a pissed off HRC.
Obama has played the press like a fiddle for months on the VP issue. He had to create the illusion of a (not a chance) on HRC to erase the perception that he was a wimp and was forced to pick her. Now it will play out as surprise, surprise, which any VP pick needs to be anyway.

Posted by: woodrose | August 21, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Dressy - it's lose, not loose. The former means to not win. The latter, as a verb, is to let something go. Kidz these days.


BB

Posted by: Fairlington Blade | August 21, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

sad to say we still live in a racist country

Posted by: pj | August 22, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

sad to say we still live in a racist country

Posted by: pj | August 22, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

sad to say we still live in a racist country

Posted by: pj | August 22, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama is gonna choose billionaire NYC mayor Bloomberg because that is his instruction from the oligarghy (international bankers and financiers) controlling the elections. Obama is their puppet. Bloomberg will privatize the US government to profit big time $$$ as planned because their wealth is going down with bad economy and currency. Bloomberg will privatize US programs, infrastructure and jobs and forsake President FDR's policies that benefits 80% of the forgotten people and Constitution.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama is gonna choose billionaire NYC mayor Bloomberg because that is his instruction from the oligarghy (international bankers and financiers) controlling the elections. Obama is their puppet. Bloomberg will privatize the US government to profit big time $$$ as planned because their wealth is going down with bad economy and currency. Bloomberg will privatize US programs, infrastructure and jobs and forsake President FDR's policies that benefits 80% of the forgotten people and Constitution.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama is gonna choose billionaire NYC mayor Bloomberg because that is his instruction from the oligarghy (international bankers and financiers) controlling the elections. Obama is their puppet. Bloomberg will privatize the US government to profit big time $$$ as planned because their wealth is going down with bad economy and currency. Bloomberg will privatize US programs, infrastructure and jobs and forsake President FDR's policies that benefits 80% of the forgotten people and Constitution.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama should pick Oprah as his running mate and make it a true all black ticket and forget about people who don't understand the message of change, but merely want to see if the messenger is packed rightly to their view of the world....that is clean and white. Black power means empowering blacks to do things, solve problems and forge a brave new world, and not some form of power to sit back and do nothing while the world falls apart all around them. Oprah deserves to be VP. And if you need me Obama as second VP then buzz me at kingsley_ferdinands2005@hotmail.com.

Posted by: Kingsley Ferdinands of South Brighton | August 22, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

New poll out this morning-Obama is 5 point DOWN! With his"aura"waning and inexperience showing allover the place against a veteran like McCain he better pick some one like Hillary who will add someweight to the ticket-not nobodies like Buyah(spelling?)Sebelius(who?)BTW, whats up with that"McCain doesnt know what he is up against"comment from a beginner nobody? Maybe OK in Chicago but a stupid line to use against some one with McCains background.

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Do you really believe that garbage. Every time McCain screws up, his poll numbers go up. You don't find it a little bit odd that the press hasn't said one bad thing about McCain. Even with all his adds that are 100% lies. This is not an honest election. The press is hiding McCain's corrupt past so he'll win. Obama's a hundred times smarter, and for his lack of experience on foreign policy, he does a lot better than McCain. What kind of foreign policy experience did McCain get by crashing five planes and sitting out the war while being captured. He never even had to shoot at anyone.

Posted by: Mike | August 23, 2008 8:32 AM | Report abuse

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