New Data: Impact of Biden

I'm deeply disappointed at this choice. The candidate for change has chosen the consumate Washington insider as a running mate.....not just any insider, but an old school "do nothing" Democrat, the type who talk a great game but ultimately do very little, and who over the last eight years have allowed Bush to trash this once great nation........This is a sad day for those of us who truly hoped for change......

Shaun...give it up. You think Se. McMansion represents change?

Biden is smart,savvy and capable of actually saing sane things. He actually had more presidential credentials than any other candidate in the primaries. And he could "take over" if needed.

The way I see it, Obama was kind of damned if he did, damned if he didn't here. Had he picked Tim Kaine, the storyline would have been "he doesn't have any experience, and neither does his running mate." Now the story is "consummate DC insider." So what do you want? It seems you can't have it both ways... except, in fact, the way Obama has done it, which is to couple his vision and innovativeness with Biden's steadfast experience. Seems like a good ticket to me.

I find it hysterical to see McCain people pretend to be Obama supporters and then claim they wish he should have picked Hillary or else just any other candidate ('for change')...

If you truly think Biden will overturn any of the "change" that Obama wants to bring, then you don't really have any respect for Obama's intelligence and his message and you shouldn't have voted for him in the primary. Biden says some stupid things every once in a while, but he brings to the table some of the most impressive and reasoned foreign policy opinions of anyone in Washington. Have you ever listened to him speak about international affairs? I can't wait to see Biden on a stage debating, Romney/Leiberman, or whomever else McCain might decide to nominate.

No to Hillary means that I vote for mccain!

If you consider yourself a Democrat and have rationalized voting for McCain because your candidate did not get picked, you do not deserve to be called a Democrat for you are actually an idiot. How one could rationalize voting for a man who has voted with George Bush 95% of the time is beyond my comprehension. The country's future is more important than your celebrity and/or feminist obsessions. I would have voted for Hillary but, she didn't win and that's it.

Shaun,

Do you really think Biden would NOT be a change from Bush/Cheney? Come on!

Biden may be an insider, but that is the point - it takes insider knowledge to change D.C. Coming in as a complete outsider like Carter would be a disaster. And don't forget that it took Bill Clinton almost 3-1/2 years to learn how things work here--Biden will shorten that learning curve by a lot.

Plus, he can really hammer McCain as an elitst only posing as an Average Joe.

I think Biden is a bad pick. He has a history of saying really silly things then having to backtrack. For example the quote about Obama. Then there is the plagiarism issue that will come up. But most of all, he is another (elitist) Senator, despite his supposedly working class background, he's from a small NE and inconsequential state. I don't get it. The pick suggests to me that some of the criticism of Barack as elitist may have a germ of truth.

Here at Protestants for Peace, we feel very let down. We had been hoping for a more ecumenical choice, especially our favorite, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA).

I was thinking that Kodos had to hit a grand slam with his VP canidate selection; but now that Kang's choice has met the public with a resounding "thud," Kodos may yet have a decent shot.

Joe, lose cannon, Biden is at best neutral in helping Obama. He is an ultimate insider and about “change” the only change Obama has shown since talking a good game in the primaries is that he can "change" and become a old school very quickly – what a disgrace.

OK, here's how to fix the damage:
we pick Obama this year to avoid McCain.
In four years, we pick Obama again or go with the Rob Portman or somebody from the GOP to avoid Biden. In eight years, we definitely go GOP to dodge Biden.

BTW, Biden would be 73 in eight years, one year older than McCain!!!!

Oh, Barak.....you're losing us, man.

So much for the candidate for change. Unfortunately I'm in the 10%. And no Luke, I'm not a McCain supporter. I find it interesting that anytime someone disagrees with this once refreshing candidate, they are immediately labeled a conservative. The Bushies use the same tactic to bully their way around town.

We need a VP who is capable, respected, and DC savvy. We have one now, in Cheney, who is off the charts as being the most evil and dangerous person in such an office in history, so we need someone to bring dignity and respect back to the VP level..and we now have that chance. With Biden we get someone who CAN deal with foreign affairs based on experience and ability. Who knows the ropes of DC well. Is respected and VERY capable! What's not to like?

Way to go.

Now it's time to flip the ticket.

This is a biased poll with a poorly worded question. How do those who are strongly decided to interpret it? The choice of VP can make little difference in comparison with the overarching issues already identified by the strongly decided, no matter what the issues are. However, the strongly decided might read the question to be asking whether they think the choice of VP would make a difference in the election. It is interesting that the split between positive and negative votes matches the distribution of support for the presidential candidates.

Joe wrote:

"No to Hillary means that I vote for mccain!"

As reported by Maureen Dowd and David Corn, at a Republican fundraiser, McCain joked: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."

So, Joe, if you want a real Hillary-hater in the White House, McCain is your man.

It looks like Obama took a page from President Bush. He picked a foreign policy expert that the media praised at the time just like they are now doing for Biden. So much for change when you pick a old man that has been in the sentate for 32 years and ran for President twice. When you pick a loser you also look like a loser. Obama is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

I don't think we should be second guessing Sen. Obama, a man who has run the most brilliant campaign in the history of American politics. I think he's made some pretty damned good choices. He didn't listen to the pundits who for some reason kept pushing Hillary on him.
Obama-Biden 08!

How's Obama going to keep Joe's big mouth shut?

HAHAHA, Look, the fact of the matter is, Obama is a great speaker, and obviously a great sales man. But he is in no way going to CHANGE anything in DC. Obama supporters are fools to the highest level. And if he wins, it will reflect on us all.

Biden is one of the smartest men in the US Senate. He is an excellent choice and knows more about foreign affairs than John McCain. I would love to see him take Joe Lieberman apart in the VP debates.

Biden pointed out that the oil prices are related to Bush foreign policy in the Middle East and saber rattling against Iran. He gives the ticket an experienced Democratic leader.

So, Joe, you were probabaly going to going to vote for McCain anyway. If you want endless war, a radical Supreme Court which seeds all power in the Executive and takes away women's rights (including the right to choose), be my guest.

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Obama tends to take a balanced thoughtful perspective on things. It makes sense he would pick someone who does a great job balancing the ticket.

if you vote for McCain in response to Obama's VP choice, be sure to bite off your nose to spite your face as well
i dont get the pretzel logic

In the end, does it really matter? Think about it.

Lots of people voted against Kennedy/Johnson (that means they were voting for Dick Nixon). So please don't forget to vote. Like Kennedy, Obama needed to select someone like Biden/Johnson to help build a foundation that was too scary for folks. But it's all about Obama and where he can lead our great land!

Rev. E. Raleigh they did call barney gay but he was bend over infront of another man so he didnt pick up the phone

"No to Hillary means I vote for McCain." As Michael Moore once said, "Bill Clinton was the best Republican president we ever had." Is it surprising that some Hillary voters won't vote Democrat in November? Afterall, many of these are really Republicans at heart, and can't support somebody who is ideologically liberal.

Picking Biden is one more disappointment since Obama became to presumptive nominee. I've sent him money but what spark was in me for him is very, very dim. I'll have no choice but to vote for him but he's turning out to be as big a disappointment as the rest.

I say we have a battle royal cage match to see who win the office!!

I really like and admire Joe Biden. He'll make an admirable president when Obama is rapidly impeached for incompetence.

But this year, rather than going to the polls to vote for a VP, I'll be going to vote as strongly as possible against the most unqualified candidate ever to be nominated. Voting for McKinney or Nader just nullifies my vote - it's the same as staying at home, so McCain gets the vote that will cancel out one of the Obama-lover's.

Ron -

disagreeing with Obama is not what gets ou labeled a conservative. NOT voting for him, no matter what you think of his ideas, should get you labeled a reactionary. Another 4-8 years of Republican rule, especially under a hot-headed McCarthyite, would solidify the U.S.'s place as a second rate country. We would then loose all of our top people and turn into a third world nation.

I am reminded of JKF's choice in LBJ. Kennedy was a relative Washington outsider, LBJ the master of the senate. I think the choice of a Washington insider makes sense.

I'm a die hard Hillary fan, but if the GOP thinks I'd vote for McCain just because I'm unhappy my candidate didn't win in order to give her another chance in 2012,or because Obama didn't tap her for Veep, they're nuts. Four more years of a Republican Administration means it won't matter who's Pres. in 2012...it'll be far too late.

Anyway, I like Joe Biden.

Obama has just picked a similarly liberal runmate. What a ticket! Two of the most liberal senators partnering to change our country. God knows what is in store for us if they win. I personally do not think this country is ready to become a socialist republic. Grab your pockets because if they win, they are going so siphon out more of your money than you will ever realize. I am very optimistic that this ultra liberal ticket will do nothing more than help the republicans

Great Choice!!! Joe Biden would be a great President, so a super VP. This man is the best of the best, and my family (NJ) is thrilled to see Obama's superb reasoning personified in this choice!!

Responding to James, who said: "I'll have no choice but to vote for him..."
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James, you do have a choice. Our options aren't good, but our choices are still our own. No party or candidate owns or controls our votes.

I want Obama to win. Period. I think Hillary would have brought more commitment from her supporters and a better chance, but the VP is not the issue. Biden has a lot of strengths, most of which are not electoral. But he will do the country proud in that role. More importantly, Barak, listen up. The magic is gone. It's what got you here. It's what still gives the world hope for a better US. Stop listening to your handlers. Look what they did for Gore and Kerry. Sorry to be repetitive, but be what got you here!

Biden is the best choice Obama could make.
This is a dream team, I think the US, if the voters are clever enough to understand the difference between class politics and structural change, could actually begin to regain its standing in the world. I agree with Luke S, especially after reading the various comments from Shaun and Joe, that the McCain people are pretending to be Democrats and are out doing their spin work, what with McCain- (and either Liebermann or Romney as a possible VP) what else can they do, that and slopping their negative ads all over the place, they have nothing to offer. The US can not afford another 4 or 8 years of the McCain(same)thing.

The news story is "Biden."

WP says it's their new poll. Good grief. How fast the mighty have fallen.

Thoren said it best: Lots of people voted against Kennedy/Johnson (that means they were voting for Dick Nixon). So please don't forget to vote. Like Kennedy, Obama needed to select someone like Biden/Johnson to help build a foundation that was too scary for folks. But it's all about Obama and where he can lead our great land!
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.....and looked what happened to Kennedy. Don't think for a minute there are not people out there waiting for this.

THis is the choice every democrat should be proud of, and I salute Obama for tthis choice. For all of us democrats, lets support Obama -Biden, we need change. See how the republicans are so close and united, they could take advantage of our disunity. The moment is ours, the time is now. Lets fight after the elections but not now.

Oh, the polls, the polls... I can pretty much guarantee you that NO VP choice is going the move the polls very much. The Washington pundits -- the same people who were suggesting a week ago that Obama would pick Bayh -- have been the only people suggesting that a VP choice could "shake up the race." That's an asinine notion; people have historically voted based on the top of the ticket, not the VP. And this poll just confirms how asinine the pundits' notion is that the VP is a make-or-break choice. It's not. Never has been. Never will be. If anything, this poll simply shows just how wrong the pundits get it -- again.

We could have done far worst, Bayh was on that short list, and that was a disaster of epic proportions. Joe has a son about to head for Iraq, so unlike the current administration, he has some real skin in this fight. Joe has years of experience, this is the very thing McCain has been pounding Obama on. Well now the ticket has the experience it needs to win...

I wonder what McCain things about this? Can we find out which of this 8 houses he is in and ask his housekeeper and butler to wake him.

For Obama's VP, he had to get someone who could push back hard at the Republican ugly/silliness during the campaign with charm and humor, as well as able to work effectively with Congress in a bipartisan way to move the Obama agenda. He's a middle class guy with broad Democratic base support, loved in Pennsylvania (a key swing state) and one of America;s most experienced hands in foreign affairs. While McCain was rattling his saber against Russia, Biden went to Georgia at Saakshvili's request. Biden's selection will also force McCain to hold his nose and select Romney, because Biden would easily destroy any of the youngsters McCain is considering.

Those of you who say they will vote for McCain because Hillary wasn't chosen are simply vindictive.....or Republican.

All this survey tells us is that when people are asked a question that is meaningless to them, roughly 78% of people will answer honestly saying it doesn't matter or they don't care. Roughly 23% will make up a response to skew the survey in the direction they want it to go. These surveys provide no useful information on the question they ask. They are personality tests; nothing more.

Barry (Obama's real first name least we forget) scared me with his foreign policy talk - he was absolutely clueless. With his choice of Biden as VP I am more comfortable with the overall political agenda. I am a right of center Republican, but have real issues with McCain. Now I can feel more comfortable voting for Barry.

Far too late in 2012!? It's far too late now...it doesn't matter who is in the White House. What is Obama going to cure the nations trillion dollar debt? Come on...

Plagerism, "loose cannon," "DC insider," VP to the once "refreshing candidate," another "elitest," "backtracker," "deeply disappointing:" sounds as if there's now an unfortunately good basis for losing the election.

Obama made the right VP choice. Biden does not only have a wealth of experience in foreign affairs, his position on domestic issues are also commendable. Competing against the worst administration this country has ever had, an administration that is fully supported by McCain, is a good thing for Obama and Biden. Biden will help Obama push the changes that are needed for improving the lives of the people.

What's the real issue with Obama?

- What crazy liberal nutjob might take over if Obama gets shot?

- Now all the mildly racist people out there (about 80%) of the population can rest easy that #2 in line is an old rich white guy. Whew! Now you can pull the lever.

Wow, I really did not see this coming. Biden does not represent the change Obama has called for. I would have been happy if he had picked Tim Kaine or even Hillary Clinton, but he chooses an old white guy who has only ever been a Washington politician. How is Biden going to inspire change? I'll still vote for Obama, but I realize there isn't going to be the fundamental change that he has described.

You guys are missing the point: Sen. Biden fills in for Sen. Obama's experience, yet is (gulp) honest and forthright (none of the typical politician's empty pap). What a team!! If the American people elect McCain to extend Bush's catastrophic reign, they will deserve what they get.

Obama sold out. Does he even talk about Iraq anymore? He sold out to AIPAC. He sold out to Israel. This is the final straw to assure all the usual money guys and power guys that he will do what they tell him to do.

Biden symbolizes transformation. The view that change and Obama is "ours" is destructive, exclusion, and narrow.

You salute Obama? He doesn't even salute YOUR FLAG. You people are complete idiots. No lapel pin, No salute/hand over heard/ repainted his plane with no American Flag on it. You people are BLIND!

I expected this from Mr. Obama. I really feel he has a long road ahead of him to win the White House. Where is his promise for "Change".
I will do something different after voting 40 years as a democrat, Change......

NOTICE THAT BIDEN DID NOT QUIT HIS DAY JOB!
he does not believe for even one minute that lil hussein and grinning joe have a prayer.

Joe Biden is HOT.

If you truly think Biden will overturn any of the "change" that Obama wants to bring, then you don't really have any respect for Obama's intelligence and his message and you shouldn't have voted for him in the primary. Biden says some stupid things every once in a while, but he brings to the table some of the most impressive and reasoned foreign policy opinions of anyone in Washington. Have you ever listened to him speak about international affairs? I can't wait to see Biden on a stage debating, Romney/Leiberman, or whomever else McCain might decide to nominate.

Posted by: Brian | August 23, 2008 8:29 AM

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Anyone that believes the dominance of entrenched Washington interests and corporate powers (corporate greed) are going to be shaking in their boots by a message of change from an intelligent messanger must be as naive as Biden once labeled Obama.

Biden must have been pitching himself for vp when he argued during the primaries how naive and non-ready Obama was to be president. LOL

But then again, why am I not surprised ? Being only the 3rd black Senator since reconstruction was the reason anyone ever suggested BO run in the first place. Solidify blacks, win the South, and the "cool" youth vote as a bonus. Experience, hope, Harvard grad, community organizer, best selling author...couldn't have any serious character flaws, could he ? Hey, why didn't I think of that ??

It's a sordid joke that will hopefully come back to knock all involved off their preening pedestals in November.

McCain will win the White House by a significant margin now that Biden has been selected. Obama is proving to be exactly what he says he is not ... another politician. His only strength is his MTV quality which appeals to the empty headed under 35 crowd who only know technology and money and nothing else.

No to Hillary means that I vote for mccain!
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Joe, consider this. If Senator Obama had picked Hillary, John McCain would say “Hillary herself said that she and I were qualified to be President. All Obama had was a speech.” That would have been devastating to the Dems. I hope you will reconsider your vote.

How could anyone say Biden is an Elitist? He makes less than Obama does! The real elitists are McCain and Romeny, combined they have probably 15-20 houses all paid off!

Hopefully these Hillary supports get off of their high horse and think logically for the next 70-80 days.

to frank. look where we are. yes it matters

this is the best democratic ticket i've seen in my lifetime and i go back to kennedy. vision and experience. what a team.

for all those still pining for hillary, if she ran the country the way she ran her campaign, god help us. read the atlantic this month. hillary lost, obama won. get on board already! we have a future to shape. geeze....

Joe writes: "But most of all, he is another (elitist) Senator, despite his supposedly working class background..."

Uh. What?

Biden is the 99th wealthiest senator out of 100 senators. John McCain doesn't even know how many houses he has. And you think Biden is an "elitist" rich guy but McCain is not? John McCain, who has 8 houses, over 100 million bucks, is the "working class" candidate? You are being very silly.

I agree with "survey critic" above. These so called statistics are about as believable as all these republicans posting "oh, I'm not voting for Obama because of this". You never were voting for Obama. Republicans are liars. They love spin and politics more than they love our country.

Bush picked Cheney, now he runs things,
Obama made the same mistake.

Here at Protestants for Peace, we feel very let down. We had been hoping for a more ecumenical choice, especially our favorite, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA).

Posted by: Rev. E. Raleigh Pimperton III | August 23, 2008 8:34 AM
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You are either a liar or an idiot. Or maybe both. Frank is an Anti-Christ homo.
Biden is another israel first traitor that will cost Obama the election.

okay so you have (where's my house's dude) McCain worth around 100 million, who more than likely will pick (My four sons serve their country by working my campaign) Mitt Romney net worth 202 million. Who both support Bush's tax cuts for the rich and asking the support of people who make less than 30 thousand a year. So bottom line is do you vote and support the rich guys who have no clue what most Americans have to do to live day to day. If you do, then what the hell is wrong with you?

I'm no fan of the Clintons, but there were two giants running on the Democrat side - Obama and Clinton. By not picking the woman who nearly beat him, Obama may have just handed this election to the Republicans.

Well it's about time we have some good news out of Washington. McCain must have a little brown spot on the back of his pants about now. Biden didn't have to commit adultry and leave his disabled wife to get where he is.

The Obama-Biden team reminds me of Bush-Cheney. Young inexperienced guy being guided by old guy!! We've had eight years of on the job training, let's get someone who knows how to lead. Big mistake not to even act as if you vetted Senator Clinton, big mistake!!

Obama should have chosen Hillary if he really wanted "change". Not choosing Hillary shows that his ego is his first choice. There will be no change with Obama/Biden -
rose

I love the Biden pick! We now have a typical white guy to with Mr Clean and Articulate. The press will have a field day picking apart Biden's gaffs. A McCain sweep is a growing possibility. If only we could get some video of Obama riding around in a tank...

I was really hoping he'd pick Jim Webb.

I would like Matt to go back and really look at Mr. Obama's voting record for the past 14 months that he has been elected to the Senate. I think he will find that Mr. Obama voted along with Mr. Bush more than Mr. Mc Cain did. If you really think Mr. Obama is gong to bring change to Washington, I have a few bridges you can buy cheap. Get your head out of you a++ and start breathing real air so you can clear your head up and think for yourself instead of being told what to think.

I'd put money on it that WP won't have a poll on the republican vp within minutes after he/ she his announced. Any takers?

Well, I guess the Lush Rambo far-right nutwing contingent is still well-represented on the blogs, pretending to be offended Hillary supporters. Don't buy it!

A vote for McCain is a vote for those who would bring back the draft, ban the teaching of evolution, reintroduce segregation, and claim to be reducing your taxes while actually raising them to pay for corporate welfare.

Oh, yeah, not to mention being willing to risk nuclear war because of seeing the military as the solution to everything. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to see martial law on US soil for lack of another approach to domestic policy.

I reverse my previous decision of not voting. I will go for McCain. Troops are coming home in 2 yrs. Dying economy needs a smart hands.
I do not trust Obama, who has nothing but ambition to add to his resume and omnipresent in all decision making projects.
He is a talented public speaker,who chews and mulls over every word and plays chess with politics. I wish him all the well for a lucrative motivational speaker career.

I think a lot of us are getting Rove/Schmit Fatigue in their quest to sell the America Voters a 3rd Bush term with the same old attack ads of the last 8 years.

You get the sense that Biden can deal with the Republican Attack machine. This time around he will think before he speaks. He knows whats at stake. Look for a new improved Biden. Say no to a McCain/Bush/Cheney third term.

"This country will not be a good place for any of us to live in unless we make it a good place for all of us to live in." -- Theodore Roosevelt

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Change!
Change of mind, Change of policy, Change of everything he has set fourth to this date.
I'll vote for Bush again because that what Obama is. A liar just like Bush and Cheney.
At least Bush believed in his lies. Obama changes like the wind. I bet if could be white, he would change to that so he could blame his lies on that. Mr. Joe who shoots from the hip is just another political hack like the current liars on the hill. Maybe what really is happening is no change at all. Well of course the man is black, that's a real change. Joe said he would not not run, accept or consider a VP nod, more change there and of course painting the white house black has been suggested by some rapper gangster. Change we could believe in. Bring back Bush, we don't need more lies!!! WE already have them.

Picking the Wahington Insider is just the "change" I was looking for. Wow, what vision!!

Where are the dead when you need them? All these candidates are pathetic - we will all pay for not listening to Ron Paul.

This democrat just became a republican!! the beginner and the hothead!! They will need to keep Biden silent....good luck!!

Dear Joe: Don't you have a red-tie GOP convention to go to? Better get dressed.

Ron: Because McCain is Bush on methamphetamine. "Maverick" my @$$. To pretend that this is just another year of Damn#d Both Ways is naive in the extreme. This year's presidential race represents two very different visions for the country that will make an atom-bomb sized impact the 20 years of American politics. It will impact our children's schools. It will impact the status of the middle class. It will mean the difference between an American Republic and an American Empire. It will impact Wall St. It will impact Main St. It will, quite rudely spin every American around and play with their wallet or purse. What you eat and where you eat it will, for many Americans, be determined by this election. Where you can and can't drive will, for many Americans, be determined by this election.

I'm so sick of those fence-sitting, "isn't it so cool not to care" jaded "ain't I world weary" types who act like they'd rather watch Seinfeld than take an interest in their own future. It was a relatively cool stance to take in the 80s and 90s, but these days it just makes me want to slap them with their own complaints about the price of gas. The GOP McCainiacs are, by contrast, a rather amiable lot of fellows to have for political opponents: At least they pick a side!

Why all Russian federation for Obama???

Obama bin Biden... Sounds interesting is it not? :)

Hey Paul, I'm an independent that has donated to Obama 7 times. I will NOT vote for Biden. He is a far leftist and a servant of israel not America.
My vote will now go to Bob Barr.

Great choice Obama! Now we have a bunch of hot air saying nothing supported by diarrhea of the mouth.

I think the Biden choice is a good pick overall, but it may not be enough to put Obama over the edge. His campaign has faltered over the past few weeks as people have come to recognize that there is not much substance behind the beautiful rhetoric. His answer on abortion -- "Above my paygrade" -- sounded so flip for someone who is particularly inexperienced. Obama's advisors have worshipped blindly when they should have been challenging him and pushing him. Hopefully Biden will have the courage to stand up to his boss.

I'm no fan of McCain, but there are a lot of Republicans in this country and even a small number of dissatisfied democrats could make the election very, very close.

i am absolutely giddy Obama picked Biden. Talk about cementing your future. After Reid of Nevada or Pelosi, he could not have ensured his own loss any better.

I was a little concerned that the kool-aid drinkers and the endless money would have given Obama a chance, now reality is only months away as once again Move-On and the DNC show what utter idiots they are.

Biden committed plagiarism in law school, not something I overlook. In addition, I heard Anthony Cordsman say a year ago or so that his plan to partition Iraq was totally irresponsible.

I want to hear the same critisisms when mccain picks his running mate. And if it happens to be romney or lieberman, we the TRUE democrats will have a field day.

romney and mccain can't stand each other and Biden's critiques of OBAMA were tame compard to romney's of mccain.

As for lieberman, well he has become a parody of himself and the repub revote if he is selected will be timely enough.

That said, bring it on. OBAMA WILL BE the next president of the United States, pumas or no pumas.

I wouldn't vote for Obama if he chose Mickey Mouse as his VP.

Biden is a smart, thought out pick. If I were in the inner circle strategy group of McCain today, I would be worried. This guy is LOVED by Republicans and Democrats. He is a politician's politician who reaches across the aisle and is not into the polarization that has prevented Washington from moving forward.
Obama... you made an excellent choice. I am particularly proud because Biden is from my hometown of Scranton, PA... the Electric City. I imagine the media circus will begin there this weekend.

If you were a Hillary supporter and you now support John McCain then you were NEVER a Hillary supporter nor an honest Democrat. What you amount to is an emancipated woman who acts childish and scorned. Step back and think about it. REALLY think about it. ANY choice of candidate(s), either presidential or veep who can ouster the present regime is my dream team. Don't be hypocrites "ladies".

Agewise, by Obama. He need his "Dad"-Biden to hit McCain, again. Genderwise it is a flop. But at the end of the day, do anyone really care.

How are they going to handle Biden's plagiarism issue? That pretty much derailed his first presidential campaign years ago. Will it be dismissed as just "old news" or will be considered a window into Biden's character?

I don't know either way.

Well, I was going to vote for Obama, my heart was set for change, but after REALLY reading for a week all over the internet. He is nothing more than a politician with no experience My vote is now for McCain.

BIDEN IS A GOOD COMPLIMENT TO THE TICKET

This is a good choice for Obama's running mate. Senator Biden is a leader with foreign policy credentials, as well as an experienced voice against terrorism, drug policy, and crime. Like Hillary, Senator Biden has earned a reputation for working on a bipartisan basis which will break the log jam in Washington.

Obama will get spanked in November.

Just like 2004, all the talking heads will be dumbfounded asking why so many Americans "voted against their own self interest".

The majority of Americans who work for a living to raise their families understand it's not about how much candy a politician promises to give you.

Where's the Change oh Great One? Biden...huh? This Obama guy is so full of it. I have always voted Democrat, live in Delaware, like Joe Biden but cannot take this Obama-mania; keep the change Barack! I'll vote for Joe in 8 years. This time I'm behind McCain.

I like Joseph Biden. I'll definitely for Obama. Before the VP selection, I wasn't sure. Now their team can't be any better.

Renu1 Wrote:

"McCain joked: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

This is just another Democratic Urban Legend.
This supposedly happened at a 1998 fundraiser and McCain supposedly appoligized to the Clintons as the story is told. If this was true, then why did Hillary and McCain become such "Good Friends" in the early 00's before the election? Sounds hard to believe.

Maybe Joe can help Obama with his speeches. Opps, sorry, I forgot Joe has trouble writing his own speeches!

I think that Senator Obama's choice and his reason for it perfectly represent what we need in the White House. He chose someone who *doesn't* agree with him on everything so that he can see a different point of view and they can have meaningful debates on issues with more than one side represented. If you want change, there it is. That's not something we've seen in the White House in awhile.

Get to know Biden first. Get to know his views on Iraq. Get to know him as a outsider and loner is this regard.

Seems like it's all designed to induce us into apathy...blind, screaming apathy. Maybe that's not apathy, maybe it's depression.

142 days experience hmmmmmmm lets see--take a first grader and let him be the CEO of my company--Yea that will work!Remember people we were attacked on our soil and they are watching!

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/biden_in_1988_the_white_house_isnt_the_place_to_learn_on_the_job/

What is with these poorly worded questions?
"would that make you more likely to vote for Obama, less likely, or wouldn't it make any difference in your vote?"

Is this correct English? It reminds me of the Fl ballots... does no one test these things before administering them to thousands to people?

It seems losing an election is more important to the "democrats" (small "d" emphasis) than winning and stopping the McCain plutocrats. So, to some Biden isn't perfect. Right. And you're going to support McCain instead? Or not vote for Obama? Either you're with the plutocrats or you're against them, to parphrase George W. I'm not with the plutocrats

I find it funny people think Biden says silly things after 8 years of Bush, who pretty much says nothing that isn't silly. 99% of what Biden says is coherent and he often provides highly intelligent analyses of things. I never vote for the VP so his selection doesn't change anything. After 30 years of the GOP doing nothing but empowering the rich I wouldn't vote for a Republican even if the Dems ran Satan as their candidate. Luckily I really like Obama. A lot. I do think Biden is a solid pick. He is well qualified to be president (more qualified than McCain) if something were to happen to Obama. He has as much foreign policy experience as just about anyone in the Senate. And he is deeply respected and liked by both Democrats and Republicans in Washington. I can live with this pick.

I find it hilarious that the Changemeister opted to mimic the Bush-Cheney pairing -- with precisely the same rationale.

Would have taken a risk to pick Bill Richardson, hence a black and Hispanic ticket. But I think he would have been best: his foreign experience, and given polls in NM, NV, and CO. Biden brings no one new on board. Biden is very old news.

I agree with the first comment by Shaun. Biden is the one who wastes Senate time focusing on idiot issues like steroids in Baseball for weeks on end. I remember him doing the same thing way back in Judge Bork days. The only bright side to the decision is Biden will no longer be actively leading the Senate down the road to hell. Biden is an attention-grubbing partisan politician. He's the worst choice. My vote is no longer solid on Obama's side.

To Boxie, who called Biden and Obama two of the most liberal senators, and fears the US becoming a socialist republic:

I think that there is a guy who feels like you do living in a cave in Arizona, disseminating video rants about bombing and the like. Maybe you would like to join him.

You all are really mean to each other. I recommend that you read a book (e.g. "How To Win Friends and Influence People") or take up some other hobby that does not involve ill-willed thoughts towards other people (e.g. bird watching).

Obama must have had a very hard time at this. All the candidates for VP had more experience then him(who doesn't). His choice of Biden means that his message of "Change" and "Hope" is taking a back seat to party politics. He should have stuck with his guns. Where once there was "Hope" is now inexperience, negative advertising, and Washington insider politics as usual. I am a democrat and this guy blew it big time. He must have had too much sun on his head in Hawaii. I will vote McCain.

Joe Biden was the best choice. He is a perfect VP, regardless of his credentials as a VP "candidate". When Obama takes office, he has a smart, focused and experienced Yoda to help him. His relationships in Washington will be an asset if Obama's rhetoric is to ever go from an abstract (hope) to a reality (law) as Joe can liaison with almost any existing faction. Biden's unusual (by Washington standards) lack of ego will be a refreshing change as well. Not to mention, he will actual give a crap about his duties on the Hill.

This choice cements my decision to vote for Obama.

Joe Biden is a smart choice by Obama.
This indicates Obama is not only level headed and intelligent, but, wise too. Unlike the GOP candidate, Obama has worked hard to earn his wealth, he is highly educated, his IQ is high, he has good judgement, he is a consensus builder, he is a good manager and knows how to utilize his staff's experience and knowledge to serve the best interest of the people of USA. I hope people think wisely and don't vote blindly for the GOP candidate.

Obama's only argument against Clinton was that she is a washington insider who voted for the war.Leftwing kept slandering her on these two points.Now that Obama is looking weak,slumping in poll numbers,glaring contrast(lack of experience) between him and McCain become so apparent when it comes to forein policy,he had to resort to some one like Biden who voted for the war and has been in washington much longer than Hillary.That for sure is a CHANGE we can all believe in!

Great choice Obama! Now we have a bunch of hot air saying nothing supported by diarrhea of the mouth.

Shaun,

Do you really think Biden would NOT be a change from Bush/Cheney? Come on!

Biden may be an insider, but that is the point - it takes insider knowledge to change D.C. Coming in as a complete outsider like Carter would be a disaster. And don't forget that it took Bill Clinton almost 3-1/2 years to learn how things work here--Biden will shorten that learning curve by a lot.

Plus, he can really hammer McCain as an elitst only posing as an Average Joe.

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Of course, except that's the complete opposite of Obama's message of change in Washington.

Sounds pretty doesn't it? Just what you wanted to hear right?

"Washington is broken", "Change we can believe in"

Obama gets another pass in the face of politics as usual while using the Democratic voter base like cheap wh*%es.

You all should feel ashamed and violated.

In Biden, Obama picked a nominee for VP capable of being President of the US.

I wish the Democratic Party had done the same with picking its nominee for President.

The text messages started going out at approximately 3AM Eastern time this morning. The Obama campaign had announced yesterday that the text messages would begin at 10 AM. Hillary was right! Barrack does screw up the phone call at 3 AM. Can you imagine the surprise when those things started beeping in the middle of the night.
Well Senators, nothing like painting yourself in a corner. For all of your secrecy you weren't able to avoid screwing it up. Another reflection of poor planning based on even poorer judgment.

Who cares who he picks? He's gonna lose.

HAHAHA, Look, the fact of the matter is, Obama is a great speaker, and obviously a great sales man. But he is in no way going to CHANGE anything in DC. Obama supporters are fools to the highest level. And if he wins, it will reflect on us all.
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Pete, how do you know he won’t change anything? I’d like to hear more about your magical power to see into the future.

I think Biden is a great pick, because he does have impressive experience, even if I don't agree with his position all the time. He's going to give Obama a seasoned look. And let's face it, he's a lot more coherent than McCain, even if he is the same age.

The interesting thing about the first attack commercial against Biden is that it shows him saying something not very complimentary to Obama, and Obama is dispassionate enough to take the insult, but still choose Biden as his V.P.

If only the Hillary supporters could have Obama's savvy. You don't throw the baby out with the bath water guys. Your candidate didn't win, so you are going to vote for someone who despises women, based on his history, and who will put the final nail in women's ability to choose. My guess is that if you were still of child-bearing age, that would not be the case.

I'm amazed and astonished at how many Republican posters are online this morning in an attempt to distract and alarm sincere Obama supporters. Don't fall for it, troups! Biden is by far the best choice and they know it. YES, WE CAN.

Biden! well looks like I'll be voting Republican this year.

McCain and Romney - two more republican fat cats who will protect the wallets of the wealthy, at all cost. That's the essence of the Bush/Cheney dues ex machina - and you'll get it again by not voting for Obama. Oh - and the goody bag will include more crazed reactionists on the Supreme Court.

can anyone show me proof of obama's "intelligence". everyone keeps saying that. but when i hear hi stumble and stammer, and then restate the question, and the posisble choices, the possible choices that we all already know, i dopnt see it. please help me here. why do they all keep saying he's intelligent? isn't that the minimum requirement? aren't all of them? saying thats his qualification is kinda a little condenscending aint it? "oh look at the black guy, he's can talk and he's sooo smart". funny those dems. they are racist and cant even see it. good luck guys. 56/44 in november. when you lose, with all the $$ advantage, all the media bias, and you lose, would you all promise to just disband? whats the point ya know? mccain needs to pick a chick. first female pres = repub, 2012.

Obama needed a solid, more experienced VP choice. Many of the people (those who don't keep abreast of politics) will go with name recognition and Biden has that. There are no perfect politicians.
I'm concerned about who may be appointed to the Supreme Court. Do we want the Right Wing to take that over and lose more rights?

Will the Republican plutocrats stop saying they are "Democrats" on this message board? Nobody in their correct (not "right") mind would vote for McCain and his plutocratic way of thinking. Obama made the sensible pick with Biden.

What you naive americans don't understand is that all of this is irrelevant,dosent matter who wins the presidential election or who the running mate,policies will be decided by the real people in charge,people who are closely associated with the likes of bush-cheney and on again to the rothschilds and rockefeller, this is all a lie.What you people fail to recognise is you never really achieved independence,you are and always will be controlled by the british crown.

Biden is an old fart.

McCain is an old fart too.

Where is the change?

The youth vote is even more dissapointed.

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Millions of Democrats are voting for McCain and against Obama.

Lyn said, "I really like and admire Joe Biden. He'll make an admirable president when Obama is rapidly impeached for incompetence."

If we didn't impeach the moron currently sitting in the White House, I don't think anyone will ever again be impeached.

Have voted Democratic for over 20 years. Voted Republican for 20 years before that. I am an Independent. Seems to be time to switch back.

Democrats have had 2 years to make a difference but have done nothing. Used to be Republican was a 4-letter word in disguise, but now Democrat should be an embarrassment as well. Who would WANT to be a REAL Democrat? Whatever that is. Some of you sound like you think it means falling into line like sheep or cattle no matter what -- vote Democratic right or wrong.

Both parties suck. As usual, it has come down to whom does one think is the lesser of two evils.

McCain is not nearly so McSame as Biden. It would seem that this year it really doesn't matter who wins. There's not 2 cents of difference between them that matters.

Obama changed his song the minute he became the nominee but lots of people still have not regained their faculties sufficiently to have noticed.

Obama says and does exactly what he is told, and until he is told, has nothing to say. Often he refuses to answer questions because no one has yet told him what he should say. McCain, even at his great age, can think on his feet. Obama can't think no matter what he's doing.

Obama has said he'll send a billion of our dollars over to Georgia. This country is in a shambles. When will our tax dollars be used to rebuild our own infrastructure and help our own people?

Exactly the pick I would expect in appeasement to the Clintons. If she was not going to be the veep pick, it was going to be someone who would not seek the White House in eight years.

The younger choices would have become the next presumptive dem nominee had they been picked instead. The Clintons will have none of that.

Republicans wren?Wrong.I have voted for democrats all my life.But "today we are all republicans"

Anyone who doesn't vote for Obama just because Hillary is not on the ticket is a simple idiot.

It would be the ultimate in "cutting off your nose to spite your face"! Don't be fools -- this country isn't about individual candidates, it's about the parties. DO YOU REALLY WANT THE GOP TO STAY IN CONTROL?????

Obama Binden 08

peanut butter and jelly

As an early Hillary supporter, I find it mind-boggling that some "feminists" are now taking their votes to the McCain camp. Not only is that counterproductive to feminist issues, it is detrimental to any movement that pushes for equality of rights. I have an eight month old daughter and would have loved to see a woman president, but it's not going to happen! Biden is the best choice to complement Obama. Moreover, don't be fooled: all politicians are "elitist." At least Obama and Biden can ADMIT that they are just that.

There is hope for this county yet. Finally, two intellectuals on the same ticket. This country has been dumbed down for almost eight years. Maybe, we'll get some educational improvements out this deal. I'm tird of the US being perceived as dumb cowboys. Have you ever seen Biden debate on the Senate floor? He's blunt and bold and I like it! No more dancing around the issues or warping the facts. Just the straight poop. He, like Obama is proffesor of Constitional law and will fight feverishly to protect our rights. Obama is an intellectual and Biden smart and EXTREMELY experienced. This is a perfectly balanced ticket and history is being made right now. Call them both elitists if you like, as long as you call them "intellectually elite". I'm a huge fan. The youngsters, if given the opportunity to hear them both speak will be inspired. I liked Hil, but she couldn't inspire anyone.

Biden is a fine person. His wife had taught at one of the schools I taught in. This was before she married him. She was a nice, beautiful blonde teacher, in conservative clothes, teaching a bunch of brats in a Catholic High School. She quit that job, got a job in a nice, expensive restaurant, and there, she met the very single, (widowed), Joe Biden, and they have been married ever since. Jill had looks and brains. I guess she is a PhD and teaches Special Ed now. They are a nice couple but I grew up in Delaware and I am just not swayed one way or the other. I would be fine with Biden but with his experience, he should be at the TOP of the ticket. Obama is not getting my vote.

Rev. E. Raleigh Pimperton III said,

"We had been hoping for a more ecumenical choice, especially our favorite, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA)."

Reverend, you may not be aware of Barney Frank's favorite sign on Cape Cod:

Entering Dennis

WOW, OBAMA must have hit a nerve as the rebub trolls are out in force; and so early in the morning too.

Vote for mccain if you choose but if you do you are not now, nor have you ever been a Democrat.

mccain/bush is going to finish off destroying the middle class, ensuring that woman loose their right to privacy (which is what Roe is really about)eliminating what few civil liberties we still have, and instituting the draft so that they can fight more wars to accumulate more wealth.

So trolls, you fool noone by reposting the same old BS to make it look like there is more dissent then there is. You are liars and have NO INTEGRITY.

Lastly, if mccain is so great, why didn't you vote for him when he ran against gwb,2?

To all the People that say that they will not vote for Obama I can only say this. Can you afford 4 years more of the same. McCaine is an old rich person that is only going for president because of his ego.He doesnt care about you and me . He lives on his wife's millions he has nothing to worry about mortgages and college tuitions food and gas expenses and all the promises he is talking about are nothing but hot air. He even sounds almost senile at times with his gaffes. Do we need him specially if he gets Lieberman on board. The White House might as well turn into a nursing home in a few years.....Viva Obama and Biden.

"Millions of Democrats will vote McCain" illustrates the low-information voters that we have going to the polls. Hillary Clinton got votes because she was married to a famous name and was a woman. Oh, what great reasons to vote for her. Correctly states, "millions of (Fake) Democrats who (mistakenly) support plutocrats will vote for McCain."

Bucket of warm spit, anyone?

THIS IS TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WANT CHANGE. YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR YOU MIGHT GET IT. IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE 90% OF WHAT WE WISH FOR IN LIFE IT EITHER ILLEGAL IMMORAL OR FATTENING. YOU LOOK TO SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER. YOU MY FRIEND ARE THE ONE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES YOU WANT. WE ARE LIKE CHILDREN THAT HATE THEIR FATHER FOR MAKING THEM EAT THEIR VEGGIES. GIVE ME A GOOD CONSERVATIVE ANY DAY OVER A LIBERAL THAT THINKS HE OR SHE KNOWS HOW TO LIVE MY. STAY OUT OF MY WAY AND LET ME LIVE MY LIFE.

I would just like to commment that his choice hasn't changed my mind even though I know little about Mr Biden.I personally wanted to see Hillary as his running mate or perhaps Al Gore if of course he is still interested.It dosen't matter either way I'm still voting democrat. Democrats need to give this team a chance to show America what it can do. How could it get any worse!

The only time I've ever seen Biden is on T.V. Like most of the people responding to this article. What I have witnessed is someone whether right or wrong smashing the other side for media attention. He is destructive and a typical east coast libral. NO TO JOE KERRY! Wait a minute. John Kerry isn't half as bad a Biden.

At age 75 I find it interesting that those to the left think they vote for freedom. The less fortunate have voted for Democrats as long as I can remember and they remain the less fortunate. McCain has overcome many personal adversities, given aid to those in need, providing for those less fortunate out of his own pocket. What has Obama done? Whine...just like democrats have done for years. I own my own business through hard work and Democrats would tax it away and think they could run it better from Washington. Then the less fortunate would not have a job. Think about it. I sit on the board of a large charity. Do you think we get support from left thinkers, NOT. If it were not for right thinkers we could not exist to feed the poor and put a roof over their heads. And, the government makes it hard to do that at times. Learn to give a hand up and not a hand out to those around you. Give a man a fish and he eats for one day, teach him to fish and he eats for a lifetime.

Well now that the rethug trolls have voiced their desperate and scared frightened opinions, let's congratulate Sen. Obama on a smart choice. Biden is definitely experienced (more so thant McWar, even though he's older than Biden by almost a decade), Biden is smart and savy and an excellent debater who will tear holes in McBush's vp choice whoever he may be, and Biden's way past shortcomings that the rethugs are aleady scrambling to point out (do I smell fear? yes, and it stinks) are nothing to what can and will be pointed out about McLiar and his considered choices. So then rethug trolls, enjoy yourselves this morning as you pose as HRC supporters.

LOL

And PS: Do any of the Republicans pretending to Democrats realize how transparent and silly they sound? "I was going to vote for Obama...but now..."

Riiiiiiiight.

Maybe it's because you fine folks are so easy to lie to, so eager to believe the latest Bush/Cheney bullsh*t (Did you hear? The Chinese are DRILLING FOR OIL OFF CUBA!!!) that you think everyone else is so dim.

It's highly unlikely this selection will sway much of anyone in either direction. If you were for Obama, you still are. If you were voting for McCain, you're an idiot, but this is America, and you have that right.

FOX News and the other corporate media are already running the McCain anti-Obama through Biden ad for free as "news." Doing their best to overturn the working class's final hope, that's the corporate news media at work.

Biden is a very good choice, he had many of the best comments and answers in the primaries. Obama and Biden will be a big change! But American politics only can take so much "change." Ron Paul will not be elected. Those who say Biden shows Obama is no longer for change are looking for something more than American politics can deliver in 2008.

Biden? What is Obama thinking? Let's compare Biden to McCain. Biden has been in Congress far longer then McCain. Biden is only six years younger than McCain. As for health, McCain suffers from injuries inflicted from being a POW for five years and Biden suffers from brain aneurysm of the nature that just killed Rep. Tubbs like a bolt from the blue. As for verbal gaffs, McCain has nothing on Biden. Bidens gaffs are legendary. Add to this Biden's past praise for McCain and criticism for Obama and you have a ready made GOP ad goldmine.

Now let's go to the real blunder of this pick. Obama has just punched, not slapped, but punched, Hillary and her 18 million voters square in the face. What was the main reason for Obama not picking her? In PC terms it would be because she didn't fit into his "Change" mantra. Now we all know the real reason. He can't stand her or Bill. Well now he goes and picks someone that has been in the Senate FOR THIRTY-SIX YEARS! So much for that "Change" reason for not picking Hillary for VP. Obama has made a blunder of epic proportions by picking Biden over Hillary. McCain may not win in November but his odds just got a heck of a lot better.

America - A country without convictions. Listen to yourselves. You don't know what you don't want, much less what you do want. If you did, this contest wouldn't even be close. If the last eight years haven't taught you anything, you deserve what you get.

It is a Republican victory in November! I am so grateful this morning that Hussein picked Biden! No "Barack & Joe Show" for four years which means we may still have a chance to save this Republic.

Vote McCain & (?) in November. Whomever McCain chooses, it will be better than this clown, "Joe"!

Obama-Biden for the White House. Yes, I am a big Hillary fan.

Truly amazing to me that people think the choice of Biden WILL NOT make a difference. Even if you don't support Obama, if you are honest you have to admit that his has been one of the most intelligent and effectively run campaigns in modern history. Do you really think he would NOT have well-considered plans for his partnership with Biden?
Also amazing that people can't (or, perhaps, don't want to) see how logical it is for a person who wants to drive a change agenda to have at his side a person that CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS the system that needs the change. Remember Jimmy Carter? I can't think of a public persona that I have more respect for...but who was completely ineffective because he tried to change the system without really understanding it, or having advisors that understood it.
Finally, I am SO TIRED of people who say they will support McCain Hillary didn't win. What are you thinking? The next president will likely choose at least one, and possibly three Supreme Court justices. The next president will have to repair our relationships with the world,so effectively damaged by Bush and his neo-con buddies. The next president will have to guide the United States into a more favorable economic position is an ever-more global economy, and I use that term in the REAL sense, not just rhetorical. The next president will have to address health care and Social Security and the growing diversity of the US population. Do you REALLY want to hand that kind to scenario to John McCain for FIVE MINUTES, let alone four years?
What planet are you folks on?

In reply to B.Elder.....in answer to your question regarding where will we be if "they" (Obama/Biden)win...We already know where we will be if they DON'T win, after all we have been living with that nightmare for the last 8 years!

Plutocrats on one side and Republicans for Hillary doing their bidding on the other side. Incredible. Hey, Bill, how much fun is it sitting with McCain in the plutocrat section of the country?

HAHAHA, Look, the fact of the matter is, Obama is a great speaker, and obviously a great sales man. But he is in no way going to CHANGE anything in DC. Obama supporters are fools to the highest level. And if he wins, it will reflect on us all.

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And when McCain gets elected he'll finish off what Bush started. When McCain picks his VP we can all listen to the press tell us how high McCain's poll numbers just went. The BS is really flying now. The desperation is sinking in. Every time McCain screws up his poll numbers go up. The rich criminals are in a panic. Hurry Hurry post some more lies about Obama so we can win. Do another poll in the company parking lot so we can write about how good McCain's doing.

It's all about chemistry and they look good together. It doesn't really matter at this point. DEMOCRATS will take the WHITE HOUSE in 2008!

I love all the McCain posts and their "disappointment" with Biden. Just wait a week and watch how the Senator disembowels your boy's "maverick" facade (ole school style; anyone remember Bob Dole in 1976?). Moreover, Biden is about the best union man we've had on the national ticket in a generation. If he talks about nothing BUT the Republicans' history of economic elitism it will mean a sweep of the mid atlantic and new england states.

For Hilary supporters, I feel your pain. I personally would have preferred her on the ticket. But it is clearly your "right to choose" in November. If you value what she and her husband have supported over the years, and understand in American politics NO ONE gets the perfect candidate, then it seems like a simple choice to me.

All I'm focusing on is canvassing and getting out the vote in my little corner of Texas. You all can act out your fantasies of guest hosting Hardball, but we (and about a million other local nobodies) are going to take this country back from the fools who have been running it for the past eight years.

One last thing: how 'bout them Cowboys?

The Obama/Biden ticket is an awesome one. The father and son combination is incredible. This ticket represents the younger generation taking the leadership role in our country and the older generation standing by their side giving guidance and reassurance. This is change. I hope this ticket helps put to rest all the talk about generation divide. The young and old do need each other. I believe this ticket is best for out country. Congratulations to Senator Biden.

poor Hillary !
i want her so much to be on the V.P ticket i cried this morning...
i am not sure if i could vote Obama
i will not vote for another Bush 3rd terms, i lose so much on Bush era.
i lost my house
I lost my job

Now i am really losing hope

I was not liking this pick because Biden is a little too cozy with the Washington media, like McCain. But then I realized he will be just as old as McCain when 8 years rolls around and will look every minute of it. This is an inspired choice.

The Obama/Biden ticket reminds me of Kennedy/Johnson. Kennedy with the agenda and Johnson pushing Kennedy's agenda's through congress. Biden might not help Obama win the election, but if Obama does win Biden will be of great value. In these times, you have to admire a politician who speaks his mind even if it does get him in trouble.

Beware the Mc10house trolls here pretending masquerading as "former Democrats" and Hillary supporters. Its fun to see you McDementia supporters going crazy. Keep up the vitriol suckers.

fred,

You try getting into Harvard Law School, becoming editor of the Law Review and graduating with distinction.

AND when you have accomplished those rather lofty goals, you will better understand just how INTELLIGENT OBAMA really is.

Disgruntled Hillary voters: Give it up.

I hear FOX News had a poll and McCain is now running at 60 percent because he didn't know how many houses he owned or whether he drives a Contour or a Cadillac. Hey, believe it, the low-information voters believe every other piece of BS that the corporate news media churns out.

Great pick. Sen. Joe Biden is an excellent index card reader, who will make an outstanding vice presidential lap dog. Obama could have done worse; he could have named Hillary or his wacko Reverend!

And, so much for unspecified change. The only change we will see is dramatic tax hikes for all those who work for a living so that Obama can provide hand outs to those who don't. It's time for a reality check.

Wait...Barney Frank is GAY?!?

Some historical perspective on change, peace, and leadership.

Dramatic Change - Oct 28th, 1929 Black Monday

Price of Peace - Sept. 30th, 1938 Neville Chamberlain Munich Agreement

Be Ever Vigelent - Dec. 7th, 1941 Attack on Pearl Harbor

A Nation Divided Can Not Stand - June 16th 1858 Abraham Lincoln

Pleasure in Hubris - Ancient Greece, Aristotle

Know Your Enemy - Sept. 11, 2001 al qaeda
attack on the United States

Democrat or Republican, Left or Right, we are all Americans. If we put personal ambitions ahead of our mutual national interests, we will surely meet the fate of history.

Ed Posted:

McCain will win the White House by a significant margin now that Biden has been selected. Obama is proving to be exactly what he says he is not ... another politician. His only strength is his MTV quality which appeals to the empty headed under 35 crowd who only know technology and money and nothing else.

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I take offense to the "empty headed under 35 crowd" statement. My voting experience only goes back so far as the past two rigged W. elections, but just because I am under the age of 35 does not mean I am empty headed. I have just as many ideas, visions, and hopes for this country as any old white man. Except my ideas don't include taking away the rights of women, discriminating against others based on their sexual orientation, starting a ridiculous war, sacrificing thousands of American lives in said war, putting money in the pockets of oil companies, or scaring the bejeezus out of the American people to retain power.
No, my head is far from empty. So please do not judge us based on our lack of "experience". We know what is really going on around here...it is time for CHANGE!

All you Hillary Supporters:
What I'm reading here is: Just because Hillary didn't get picked,you want to vote for McCain? Why? Do you think McCain will put Hillary in a prominient position of power in his administration? Do you think McCain will recognize her accomplishments and reward her for her support? Do you think McCain will give Hillary & Bill ANY kind of voice in his administration?

This is stupid to even talk about, isn't it? I believe that if you vote for McCain, that you were really never Hillary supporters, but closet Republicans, in the Rush-Limbaugh mold, who secretly wanted Hillary for an opponent, and didn't get what they wanted, and have now come home to McCain.

Obamma will win this election, with or without you. If want to a be part of it, to be a player in his administration, get onboard, or wallow in misery for the next 8 years, because Hillary didn't picked, and your Republican candidate went down in Flames !!!!

Every time I read that Obama shunning Hillary is a rationale for someone to vote for McCain I think that person is a political neophyte. You have to be completely disinterested in the issues to go from Hillary Clinton to John McCain. This isn't a vote for Class President. There isn't a yearbook picture at the end of the year here folks. This is the darn country and its future. Have a brain! Hillary and Obama were so aligned issue wise they spent the whole primary arguing personality. So, if you EVER liked Hillary's issue then this next vote is a no-brainer.

The Obama handling of the vice presidential selection was poor. It makes me start to really doubt the competence of Team Obama.

Visions of Dukakis and Kerry dance in my mind.

I think people forget that voters can cross the political Dem/Rep lines when disappointed with the outcome in the primaries. FUD (Fear - Uncertainty - Doubt) can possibly elect McCain in spite of the party lines.

At least Obama passed the Hillary test !!

Now, children voters, let's all think about Reverend Wright. Don't think about high gas prices, don't think about the economy blowing up, don't think about inflation, don't think about Bush and Iraq, and on and on. Keep you head safely under ground and be a meathead. Then you're ready to vote for McCain.

"Say it's so Joe"! Barack Hussein Obama just scuttled his quest for the presidency!
Great news for America!

McCain in '08!

Some of you are just looking for any excuse not to vote for Obama. We know the real reason you won't vote for him and it has nothing to do with Hillary, nor McClain. Go ahead and vote for the Republicans! Just remember, when you'll at the supermarket or gas station, you did it to yourself.

I'm not a McCain fan but;
I can't find one person who can tell me why they want Osama.
All I hear I change
Too many people have bought into the idea that "change is good"
What a simplistic outlook
Please do not put your trust in any politician- they all lie and they all put themselves first-open your eyes-don't be a schmuk. Please stop building pedestals for them to stand on

Some of you are just looking for any excuse not to vote for Obama. We know the real reason you won't vote for him and it has nothing to do with Hillary, nor McClain. Go ahead and vote for the Republicans! Just remember, when you'll at the supermarket or gas station, you did it to yourself.

Joe Biden spoke at a HS graduation in DE, and let me tell you this, he IS the most boring speaker in my memory. He covered about 30 topics from AIDS to Education and several more from F to Z.

Certainly no JFK... not even a Paris Hilton, who is surprisingly very articulate and able to deliver memorized lines flawlessly.

I was pulling for Biden and am happy he will be on the ticket.
And, for those disappointed by Obama's slide to the middle, what did you expect? In the end, they're all politicians who want to get elected and then spend the next four years trying to achieve what every first-term president wants to achieve, a second term. So,the only pertinent question remains: Do you want to vote for a guy who is less than what we hoped for or a guy who is exactly what we don't need?

Obama Biden 08

Obama Biden 08

Great Choice, congrats Biden

Why are McCain supports, acting like they are Hillary, women,or democrats supporters and post against Obama?

Answer - They have no hope in their own party.

Obama Biden 08

Just wait until they all hear Biden in the debates, on TV shows, or at local events! I, too, was unaware of Biden's most capable speaking abilities. While watching the debates when all Democratic candidates were onstage, I saw that he overshadowed them all with his repartee, knowledge, and ability to come back quickly with an articulate and correct response. If he is garrulous, so be it. At least what we will hear will be the truth, in contrast to the Bush years and McCain's terrible, evil, and dishonest ads.

He is just what Obama needs. Obama has won us Republicans by his morality, ethics, and ability to change this country. What he had not had was enough experience with the slimy tactics used by the Rove clones, presently running the McCain campaign. Look out, former colleagues of mine! Biden, also an ethical, moral man, is coming. In his case, for years he has observed your evil games and he knows how to challenge them and deflect them. Take my advice, you had been duck!

Plutocrats dominate this message board. Just like they dominate the news media itself. Just ask yourself if McCain, the man who doesn't know how many houses he owns or what kind of car he drives, really represents working people. Remember, there are more working class people than plutocrats! Once you realize that, you'll vote Obama.

Said it before, and I'll say it again--if so many people view their votes for Hillary and McCain as interchangeable, I'm damn glad that I voted for Obama and not Hillary!

Standby for a insurmountable Obama bounce after the convention. Biden balances out his ticket and brings "experience" that exceeds McCain's.

Well, the Repug trolls have restored my belief that the Dems will triumph over evil in November. Guys, your fear is palpable. You couldn't be more obviously terrified of the Obama/Biden ticket. In your roundabout (dishonest) way, you have confirmed for this liberal that Sen. Obama's choice of Joe Biden is galling and threatening to you. It does my heart good.

Do "Democrat" and "Republican" have any meaning at all, any difference at all? Do you have any convictions at all, any principles, any ideology, any ideas? Then vote your party.

Biden is a great choice even the Republicans are aware of this! After all why would so many be adding their comments here - about voting for Mc Cain because Hilary is not the VP nominee! It is patently silly to vote McCain because Hilary is not the pick. It's like choosing to drink arsenic because no milk is available! Fact is Mc Cain is WORSE than Bush!

Scrapster is right. Any voter who sees an interchangeable Hillary with plutocrat McCain CONFIRMS that the correct vote was Obama. By the way, remember that 28 percent of voters in the West Virginia primary voted for McCain because he's white while they voted against Obama because he's half-black. Racism is behind plutocrat McCain

My household was hoping for Biden or Clinton as VP and we are thrilled. Biden's personal story has as strong an element of "victory over tragedy" as does McCain's POW experience. He is smart and likeable. Hillary supporters . . . raise your hand if you (honestly) wouldn't have done cartwheels down the hall if in the last eight years some magic force couldn't have replaced Cheney with Biden. Well done Obama. Quit complaining and vote for someone who won't put four more Alitos on the Supreme Court.

I'm reading all the praise you Obamabots are heaping on Biden and scratching my head. It sounds like the Democrat ticket needs to be turned upside down. Biden should be the nominee and Obama the VP! That does make more sense than what it is now.

Rev. Pimperton above is an amusing alias, and his group does not appear to exist, so their disappointment in Biden and support of Frank (!) is fake. Another GOP troll, for sure.

There should be an exam require before people vote. I mean, these McCain voters are much like him. Cynical, hate change, racist (remember McMansion voted against an MLK holiday in AZ), unhappy, have demons in their closet (McCain has been suicidal on multiple occasions and dumped his first family for this wealthy bimbo), love BUSH. You deserve whatever you get in this life.

You had a chance to vote for mccain when he ran against bush. You know, back when he was the maverick and an agent for change. But noooo, you hated him, voted for bush, and effectively destroyed this country.

Now that he acts just like bush, you love him, even though his policies will ensure that our destruction is complete.

Either you people are idiots or rednecks. Oh, I am sorry, there is no difference between the two is there?

IF 28 percent of West Virginia primary voters admitted they're racists, how many more West Virginia voters are racist but just didn't admit it? God what a messed up state.

Obama announced his VP in the middle of the night and the press already has poll numbers out. Man, the BS is really flying now. How does McCain's poll numbers go up every time he makes a fool of himself. Only a moron with rocks in his head would believe any of this BS.

What's interesting is the intense focus placed on the VP choice now - makes sense after 8 years of Rasputin aka Cheney that the VP position is more than just a sidekick riding shotgun. It will be interesting to see how the Obama/Biden ticket do - my suspicion is that they will do well on the stump together - Mr. Biden is well respected, articulate, and hold formidable knowledge of foreign policy. I've always appreciated Joe Biden - now I'll appreciate his work as Vice President Biden/

I doesn't really matter who the VP is, constitutionally the VP has very little power in the Administration. It is do-nothing job that sometimes gets thrown a bone at the president's discretion.

Let's see .....All you Hillary sports.....vendictive or repugilican?

A vote for McBush means you were never with her to begin with.

Many people ask why democrats are getting it wrong again and again.I would say that an average democrat didnt get it wrong.Its the party elite,leftists who have hijacked the party and biased media so eager to see their affirmative action candidate to be running for president(I dont really think many of them even care if he wins-they just want the excitement and credit of creating a celebrity)that destroyed any chance of seeing a democrat in the whitehouse.

Roxlaw: Idiots or rednecks? Those are our only choices?

You moonbats are soooooooo tolerant!

It's only been a couple of dang hours!

Do you all have some down-and-out pollsters you feel the need to give support to, so they can pay their rent -- or what?

The "impact" of something won't really be known for several weeks. This "instant" pop analysis is one reason the WaPo is losing its credibility. Instead of REPORTING news. You are MAKING news.

You aren't a cable news station. Don't act like one.

REPORT on reaction. Don't POLL and try to SHAPE the storyline.

You guys are as bad as the McCain campaign who, instead of saying, "Welcome aboard, Joe! You have been a friend and colleague -- we look forward to a hard and exciting race!" came out with instant nastiness and negative ads.

It reflects an immaturity that leaves me cold and disgusted. Grow up WaPo and McCain campaign team!

Protestants for peace Sicken me. I've never read a more pouty, bigoted statement in my all my life. I request please that everyone denounce them immediately. Thank you.

OF course the corporate news media has polls saying McCain is some sort of god when he screws up. McCain could go to the bathroom and crap in his pants and the corporate news media would send his poll numbers up.

So I guess Washington isn't broken anymore? Hillary was the old guard Washington, and Biden is... is what again?

Obama: Change, you might believe in. Obama you can't.

The comments that frighten me most on here are the Obama supporters who can't see past the "Change" mantra. What did it mean to all of you? If you can't see the change that is occurring in front of your eyes you all never really looked at Obama. Folks we might elect a Black man president in America - that is change and it will mean change. White liberals who can't see this can't see America for what it is and therefore will have a hard time understanding the work that Obama must do to make change - the first step is picking Joe Biden.

All this from a Black man who voted for Clinton because I didn't think White folks where ready for change - I had to eat that choice. And I was glad to be wrong. I think some of the folks on here who are enamored with "Change" the message need to think about change - the reality.

Neither of them have ONE original thought or new idea. VOTE FOR McCain!!!

This house thing is way over blown
I have 1 house. I live a simple life. But if someone asked me how much I'm worth or how much I owe in credit cards, and I knew that someone would call me a liar if I gave the wrong answer... I'd have to get get back to them.
Know this. I'm sure they are all researching this now in case they are asked questions about their investments.
Being rich is not exclusive to either party.

FRICKY FRACK BARACK WITH THE HELP OF NEDHMI AUCHI, REZKO, RAILA ODINGA (his cousin)AND FARRAHKAN ALONG WITH HIS ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD HAVE MANAGED TO FOOL MILLIONS OF AMERICANS. HOWEVER, AMERICANS CANNOT BE FOOLED FOR LONG, AND THIS FIASCO HAS RUN ITS COURSE. OBAMA IS NOT FIT TO HOLD ANY POLITICAL OFFICE.

Posted by: Ted from Lewes DE
Standby for a insurmountable Obama bounce after the convention. Biden balances out his ticket and brings "experience" that exceeds McCain's.
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OMG, I just about spit coffee all over my keyboard! Dude, you are having some awesome delusions this morning. What drugs does Obama put in the morning Kool Aid he feeds you Obamabots?

Biden brings to the table experience look at clarence thomas joe brought him down to reality,and i am a black man.

Great pick in Biden, Barak!
After Bush/Cheney even Johnson looks like a veritable saint!
Obama/Biden is a great ticket and will sweep the election even if were only on the basis of it being "the economy stupid", and in fact, it is a lot more than only that... a very lot more.
Bravo Barak!

I really find it hard to believe that ANYONE would actually vote for McCain. He would NOT be a good president. We would be at war with everyone, our economy would be in a depression, our gas prices would be even higher and the draft would be re-instated.

If Obama is to get anything done, he's got to be elected first. Biden isn't the non-change candidate. He the candidate who ENABLES change. I know that's not the FOX News storyline, but it's true.

If you were a Hillary supporter and you now support John McCain then you were NEVER a Hillary supporter nor an honest Democrat. What you amount to is an emancipated woman who acts childish and scorned. Step back and think about it. REALLY think about it. ANY choice of candidate(s), either presidential or veep who can ouster the present regime is my dream team. Don't be hypocrites "ladies".

Homer (simpson)

...Oh and McBush has all the NEW ideas !

Right!

And I do mean Right ---->>>>

No Hillary, so I am going to vote for the candadite that is almost completely opposite to her on almost every policy issue... Yeah, real supporters... Blind supporters. Hillary and Barack are in essence the same liberal candidate on the issues...

Very disappointed in his choice of Biden - same old same old- was hoping he would go with someone who was YOUNG energetic - someone who would REALLY bring about CHANGE - not some old geez. But will probably vote for Obama anyway in November - can't stand the old geezer Republicans

Too many Republican plutocrats are on this message board saying they voted for Hillary.
Stop lying.

I *love* that Joe speaks his mindand speaks strongly. And it's good for the president to have a VP that won't be spending 8 years trying to become the next president. Great choice.

The real reason that America is having a problem with Obama is his race. Hillary fueled the fire with her and Bill's negative comments on race. When people say that, no one would vote for a black president, this is why individuals making those types of statements should not be leading the country. We need to move forward and be all inclusive in our thinking. That old way of thinking needs to be put to rest once and for all. This country needs to be united, not divided.

"Obama's choice of running mate unlikely to shake-up presidential horse race."

First rule of VP selection: Do no harm.

No Matter who wins, we are all still going to have to go to work the next day. I just hope that by time this "super-power" gets a global clue, this place is still worth fighting for.

I am an independant voter and all i have heard is words from both of them..neither have explained how they are going to change things..Obama is just way to naive and so far i am voting for mccain

ask why there is no american flag on the aircraft of the obama campaign and why all of a sudden All the pics of obama show a flag in the bacground and will mr obama come out and tell the american public did he use the coran or the bible when he took the office of senator some people say this is not important but how could this not matter our great country was founded on the principles of the bible but lately it has been going down hill the ten comandments being removed from goverment buildings prayer removed from our schools special interest groups trying to remove in god we trust from our money and we as americans just sit by and let it happen why? what has happened to this country are we just going to sit back and let special interest groups and foreign goverments tell us how to live and run our own country ?

Well, at least he's not Joe Lieberman!

OBAMA Biden 08
great choices

We need great energy policy
We need a Great Public Relation around the world
We need someone will think Outside The box
We need to challenge tough task
We need to lead the world
We need to solve problems

America where the Dream Are Made.

obama Binden 08
it's the best combination since peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich

Democrats 2008
i am sadden about Hillary make no mistake.
i will not vote for Bush 3rd terms

What an idiotic poll. An instant waste of time.

to all dems, your last chance to voice your choices is the roll call at the convention...pick wisely or shut the hell up...the world is watching...

I'm getting sick and tired of this Hillary BullSh!t.

Hillary never recieved a phone call, paperwork, NOTHING concerning the VP pick. And quite honestly, do you blame Obama? If someone spent 6 months sh!tting on you, especially when there was no reason to, what loyalty would you retain to them? Thats right. None.

So, to recap: Hillary was never considered, never vetted, and didn't make the final list. You can cry all you want over your has-run, but complaining about it isn't going to change anything. Shut up and grow up.

It's a shame that Obama didn't have the courage to continue this ride on the historical wave of change. I am a Hillary supporter but I was willing to support Obama if he picked a woman for a running mate. Instead he stays safe by picking another 'white male'. I will NOT vote for Obama. I will not vote for McCain either, but I will write in a candidate of my choice. My vote is a matter of conviction, it is as important to me as breathing is. It is what makes Americans unique, our democracy strong. To vote just because ...or to vote for the 'winner'... is a waste of one of the most important contributions we 'regular' people can make to our country. If Obama can not have the courage to pick a woman then I will have the courage not to vote for him.

Senator Obama made the right choice in Biden, who is well-respected, articulate, extremely knowledgeable, and has a wealth of experience--both in domestic and foreign policy. McShame/Romney (and it's gonna be "Romboy", by the way) can't touch Biden. Period.

As well, Biden's respected across the aisle. Having a Veep who's a Washington insider is important for either the Dem or Rep presidenial candidate. And, Biden isn't going to take the inane crap McShame/Romboy throws about. And speaking of gaffes, they don't compare with those that fly out of the mouths of McShame and Bush. Senator Obama made the right choice in Biden.

And I agree with this--the Hillary supporters need to get real. She ran a horrible campaign, and Obama won it by running a superior one. Case closed. If they claim to be REAL Democrats and want a REAL change from the destructive policies of Bush, which McShame largely supported, they'll be intelligent citizens and party loyalists and support/vote for their party nominee--Senator Obama.

Project code: "Magic 19 Age + Personality Strategy".

This all the more reason why Senator McCain should choose Mike Huckabee as his VP. Age differences was a primary reason for Obama choosing Binden and the reversal should be for true for McCain too.

Obama's birthdate - 8/4/1961
Biden's birthdate - 11/20/1942
= difference 19 years older

McCain's birthdate - 8/29/1936
Huckabee's birthdate - 8/24/1955
= difference 19 years younger

While Obama tries to influence the population with a more balanced ticket of age as Biden is 19 years older, McCain too can use the same strategy and choose Huckabee who is 19 years younger.

When you think about it, age has a lot to do with whom people vote for. Most people that hang around together are usually the same age group.

While McCain and Biden attrack the older baby boomer generation that are in retirement years living longer, the younger middle age boomers of Obama and Huckabee track the next largest voting population.

Plus...

Obama tried to balance the ticket based on personality:

Obama - Great orator speaker people skills
Biden - Hard military details person

McCain - Hard military details person
Huckabee - Great orator speaker people skills

Again another strategy to balance the ticket and persuade both types of people. Those who relate more personally and those that relate more on details.

Obama's punch was impressive, now lets wait and see if McCain will counter punch with the same impressive strategy with Mike Huckabee as his VP.

I expected this from Mr. Obama. I really feel he has a long road ahead of him to win the White House. Where is his promise for "Change".
I will do something different after voting 40 years as a democrat, Change......

I am for Europe but I am watching closely US election. So far I can tell you can conratulate the new american president Mr McCain.
The only way Obama could win was to get Hillary. But everyone knew he will never do it. For 3 reasons:
1. His wife would never allow it
2. He will never allow it because he knows the people will say the real president is Hillary
3. Most of the people are adept to lie themselves thinking if they strongly want something it will happen no matter what the realities are

For me the Biden pick serves to highlight Barak's lack of experience and the fact that he is simply running too soon. But the old men of the Democratic Party got what they wanted, pushing the Clinton's farther away from their domain. Not that is change.

Biden quotes on Obama, Iraq, bin Laden and even McCain. http://tinyurl.com/5tsu3n

Biden as vp was a very excellent choice. Biden takes the experience factor off of the table for republicans. McCain will probably counter with Romney to offset his economic deficiency. Biden and Romney will provide the kind of rough and tumble fight that we like in our presidential campaigns. Meanwhile, Obama will obliterate McCain on the high road. The Obama ticket is the change ticket. However, one must understand the past to make the changes necessary to leave the past behind. Biden provides that critical understanding. Obama has proven his brilliance once again in choosing Biden. Now we will get to see the real McCain through the eyes of a man who was there before McCain got to the Senate.

All these comments about in favor of or not.. Bottom line is if you like Obama, you will continue to do so, if you don't then this is an excuse you can not stand tall on.. As for the Hillary supporters who say they will show vengeance and vote for McCain, you should take a course in critical thinking. How do you go from liking Hillary to liking McCain? They are on the opposite spectrum of politics. I can see them staying home for not liking Obama, but McCain?
Good thing most voters, republicans or democrats don't think as spiteful and vengeful like these voters.

As an independent voter -- I think Obama just gave the election away. although we still need to see who McCain picks.

The libertarian party is starting to look better and better these days.

Have you noticed that the plutocrats on this message board always talk in superficialities? They say, oh, Obama is scary, Obama has a funny name, Obama is a black guy, Obama is, is, is.... Man, what a way to run McCain's campaign. Must've been designed to appeal to those low-information voters out in West Virginia.

Quoting trainor: "Biden is smart,savvy and capable of actually saing sane things..."

Do you mean when he said Obama was clean, articulate and attractive for an African American? Or was it one of his other sane, smart and savvy comments?

Biden is Obama's new Dick Cheney!!

Congratulations to the Obama Campaign for the Obama Biden 08 Ticket. Change We can Believe in, Judgment we can Trust. I look forward to Springfield IL today, Denver this week, the Fall Debates and November Elections when America will have her say. G'd Bless America. This whole Presidential (American Leadership) campaign has been the best Civic Example of (participatory democracy)in my 65 years. "Fired Up, Ready to Go".

JB: "This house thing is way over blown"

The media is nothing if not consistent... and awful.

New ideas! Neocon foreign policy, deregulation (housing crisis), tax-break economic plans, deficit spending, reliance on foreign (oh and maybe 2-3% domestic) energy, etc. C'mon, why don't you people just call it what it is when you support this crap that has America on the crash course it is currently on track for. This is an easy decision on the basis of political and economic fundamentals, yet people aren't voting for the guy because he doesn't have experience supporting these things, or because he is not a woman, or even because he is a black guy. If Obama does not win, you will all have yourselves to blame.

BTW: I feel the need to make it clear that I am not a silly, starry eyed dreamer who thinks that real change can be delivered on the back of lofty rhetoric or stirring speeches. Just like everybody else, I'm gambling here...I AM NOT 100% confident that Obama (or, for that matter, any other INDIVIDUAL/politician) is the catalyst this country sorely needs. But just about everything I've seen and heard during this crazy snipe hunt that passes for our political process tells me that, experienced or not, this candidate and, just as importantly, the people he has surrounded himself with, GET IT...REALLY GET IT. The whole campaign is based on positive, progressive (if not always detailed and specific) vision for the country and our future. Contrast that with the fear-mongering, arrogant, chest-thumping, overwhelmingly negative messages from the other camp, and I am going to put my wager on Obama everyday and twice on Sunday. Sure, he might disappoint me in the long run, but there is no question that the course of this country over the last 8 years has been about as wrong-headed as it can be. Asking me to choose more of the same but expecting different results...well that's just plain insane!

I am an Massachusetts resident. I voted for Hillary in the primary. I am a 46 years IT professional and a mother of two teenagers. I am NOT republican but an independent. I am going to vote for McCain.

Biden is the real straight talk guy and the best pick that Obama can make. He can take care of the foreign policy while Obama can concentrate on the domestic issues to bring back America on track. They perfectly complement each other.

Barack Obama should have picked his brother
"George Obama" as a running mate.

George Obama has not asked his rich American brother for help despite his modest income (reported a dollar a month)

Seriously folks I think this is a bigger issue then the VP. I hope the Washing post does some reporting on the plight of Barack's family. Barack is running on change, and helping restore the American dream and he has left his own brother in a tin shack around the world.

Posted by: Ted from Lewes DE
Standby for a insurmountable Obama bounce after the convention. Biden balances out his ticket and brings "experience" that exceeds McCain's.
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OMG, I just about spit coffee all over my keyboard! Dude, you are having some awesome delusions this morning. What drugs does Obama put in the morning Kool Aid he feeds you Obamabots?

Posted by: obiewan | August 23, 2008 9:37 AM

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It looks like the McCant's are getting desperate. The press has your poll numbers going up every day as you make fool's of yourselves. I'm sorry but conditioning don't work anymore.

Joe is a troll. A GOP troll using GOP talking points. To stir up Hillary sycophants and stir up the elitist theme. Except Joe is the consummate blue collar, Catholic man, who is anything but an elitist, with a great family story. Compared to McCain especially. And if Mccain picks Romey, forget it. Bwa-hah-hah-hah-hah-hsaaaaaaahhh

This is a great, and very balanced, ticket. Most important is Biden's immediate ability to take over the Presidency if, god forbid, circumstances dictate, and his foreign policy experience. His ability to help navigate Washington is also a big plus. And he is catholicand very blue collar. Will seal the deal in PA and help in eastern OH and throughout Appalachia. His big mouth represents a willingness to challenge orthodoxy -- it's a plus substantively, and a small minus politically. I really like this ticket.

How petty Obama and his people can be?Never considered Hillary? Never even consulted her?And waht about the 3AM text message?I am sure all these will excite Clinton supporters to rally behind the chosen one.

Somebody says McCain has already been elected? More of the same FOX News garbage.

I'm PISSED! Obama picks another old coot whose past words will be used against him. Biden IS an elitist. IF McCain chooses Romney, we will not see victory this year. WHAT A FRIGGING BUMMER.

All This talk about elitist Senators. Geeze people. They are all Ivy leaguers who, despite the fact that there da' worked on the farm or their ma' raised them working 100 hr weeks, cannot be expected to say or act like Joe Shmo American. The founders set up out education system among other systems to ensure that the smartest, cleverest, and yes most elite of us should run the country. For poop sake, the whole idea of having an average Joe into he White House kind of backfired with good ol' GW don't you think?

The ticket is upside down. The inexperienced one at the top, the insider on the bottom.

He should have picked Hillary.

Waiting for McCain now. It can't be worse than this pick.

Biden is the best possible choice for Obama. It is a shame that some hard-core Hillary supporters can not rise above their admirable passion and embrace this ticket as the best overall combination to end the past eight years of stacking the judiciary with ultra conservative, agenda-driven judges; discriminatory hiring practices based on party affiliation; intentional slow response to Katrina aid as punishment to voters in Louisiana for historically trending democratic as opposed to the swift arrival of aid for Katrina victims in Mississippi (whose governor was RNC chair when Bush, Sr was elected); administrative practice of allowing lobbyists to write policy then paying journalists for favorable editorials on those policies; mocking climate change as nothing more than a theory and slashing funding to any form of research that might contradict their agenda; driving a "Faith Base Initiative" program that overwhelming funnels tax dollars to Christian churches (as opposed to the many other faiths in this country) allowing those churches access to funds for building shiny, new, massive houses of worship that those congregations probably could not have afforded otherwise; an Iraq invasion motivated by personal revenge against the man about whom Bush stated "besides, he tried to kill my daddy" but was spun as an urgent need to sniff out non-existent weapons of mass destruction and has cost us the lives of thousands of our soldiers (meanwhile Bin Laden lives); wholesale erosion of civil liberties and privacies...and that is just the tip of the iceberg.

I would be equally proud to have Hillary as Obama's running mate, but at the end of the day any party should always "put their best team on the field." As competent as Hillary is and the great skill sets and experience she would bring to the table, she is no doubt a polarizing figure: people either admire her or, unfortunately, despise her. Biden has all of the positives that Hillary would bring but none of the ill-perceived negatives attributed to Senator Clinton by her detractors.

To all supporters of Senator Clinton who have vowed to support McCain because their candidate is no longer in the race, please step back from the cliff and contemplate what a McCain victory would mean. He has vowed to nominate any possible openings on the Supreme Court with ultra-conservative judges like Scalia, Thomas, etc. The thought that a 4 year period until Senator Clinton can run again, win the presidency, and undo any changes in Supreme Court rulings through appointment of new judges is fraught with way too many uncertain variables. If any monumental rulings are implemented or overturned, it could be decades to have those decisions reversed. How many years are you willing to live without rulings - like a fundamental right to privacy - that are taken for granted today?

Come back home...we need you now more than ever.

It is sad to see a great political party like the Democrat Party deteriate into what it now represents. I have been a staunch democrat for many years but when Howard Dean became the dictator, I quit. McCain is by far the best man running and I along with millions of "used to be democrats" are backing McCain all the way. The democrat party as of today, with its Howard Dean, its Hussein Obama and his Rev. Wright, its internatioal thugs, Nachmi Auchi, Raila Odinga and its jailed supporters such as Tony Rezko makes the bulk of the party want to puke. Anything would be better than this phoney, egotistical hypocrite called Hussein Obama.

These comments are absolutely hysterical. It's amazing how funny are Republican Trolls posing as Hillary supporters. Truth is Obama respects Hillary. She knows it. He knows it. But Obama was looking for a capable VP not someone who came in 2nd place. Besides which, R's would have needed Hillary on the Obama ticket to rally their base. Instead Obama picked an earnest, steady, career public servant with working class routes from the Delaware/PA area. Anyone who meets Joe Biden 1 on 1 will love this guy.

I think Biden is a great choice. We need "junk yard dog", with a big bite, who can take off the kid gloves, get in there are blast McCain. Who will let people know that McCain was a POW because he dropped bombs on innocent women and children. Who isn't afraid to say McCain is a hot tempered liar, and a cheat. Someone who has seen the dirty work McCain hasn doing in the senate and is not afraid to point it. Go Joe go!

I feel vindicated by the fact that Obama's single greatest draw - his ability to change the landscape of US foreign policy by initiating a troop withdrawl - has now faded due to the efforts of our Secretary of State.
That anti-war voters are still flocking for Obama even after this landmark development reflects some level of disconnection.

What a flip flopper Obama is turning out to be. First he's for change then he goes for a veteran VP. First he's against Washington Insiders and then he goes for a
- a Washington Insider. His inexperience and lack of political nous is on display big time. What with Biden's verbosity and Obama's flowery embellishments to political language all we're going to see is a lot of hot air. Some good that is to
the problems of the world and the problems ordinary folk are suffering.

Why would anyone vote for McCain who is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE to everything Hillary Clinton has stood for? Every issue, every policy...

Hillary and Barack are in essence the same democratic candidate on the issues. But so many of you are voting for spite i.e. anger at media than issues.

People rant and rave about Biden and plagiarism but manage to forget McCain and the Keating Five. I find that fascinating.

Obama-Biden...interesting. Don't want to see another 911 again.

I am very disappointed with Obama's choice. I would have been 100% behind him had he chose Clinton. The only thing he showed me last night is that he and his can keep a secret - I'm not sure that's such a good thing.

I wasn't going to vote for Obama no matter what; however, now that he has picked "Slow Joe Biden" I think McCain's chances of winning have increased. Joe will say something contradictory and stupid and that will only compound the silly things Obama has and will be saying.

Good bye McCain....Biden's the best possible choice for VP - democrat or republican. Who are McCain's choices again? Pawlenty? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Romney....oh, a Biden Romney match up in the VP debates will bring blood and leave Romney crying like the little girl he truly is. This'll be great.

Biden's super smart, and super experienced - not one to just go with the rest of 'em. He speaks his mind and is the true "Straight Talk Express" in this election now.

Great choice. Even Hillary said so. Obama/Biden '08!

What was that Democrat mantra..."change" ?

And this guy has been running for President since 1988? 2 decades?

It doesn't matter all that much, like the chart shows. Personally, I would have preferred Sebelius.

If Obama fails in his bid for the White House, Hillary will have another shot in 2012.

How will this affect the Clinton's enthusiasm for the Obama Campaign?

Obama is still the nominee. Biden, Clinton, Kaine, they all take orders from the top. Here are our choices:

Obama=new

McCain=Bush

Everything else is just the media filling space and selling ads. Its really that simple!

Obama-Biden, the 2008 losing ticket.

Good pick Obama.

Biden reminds me of Jimmy Carter - who brought shame to the US because of his mishandling of the Iran hostage crisis.

This is what will happen:

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

Senator Biden may have to contend with the plagiarism issue, but, for someone who's been in the Senate for 36 years, that's not a very big skeleton to have in the closet. Biden sat on and later chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and the Senate Judiciary Committee. He has a reputation for being a calming, uniting voice, as does Obama. My sense was that Clinton's rhetoric was too shrill and divisive and that she ultimately didn't succeed because people are yearning for the kind of peace and cooperation that this team could bring about. This choice shows that Obama recognizes what a balanced ticket looks like, and that indicates to me that he'll be open to the right kind of advice. When coupled with Obama's intelligence and outlook, I'd say this is a very exciting choice.

Biden an elitist?

From what I heard, his wife and child died years ago in an accident, he lives with his sister in Delaware, and takes a train to DC every day to do his job. Very unassumingly, this is how the guy goes from day to day.

He's got more foreign policy scruples than anyone openly vying for a leadership position and can say the one sentence version of President Obama's paragraphs. He'll show he's human and butcher the phrases sometimes. Bush did it as a ploy and the country went with it for 8 years. He'll do it genuinely, receive hell for it, and keep doing his job.

In response to Joe:

The spoiled brat syndrome that has "so-called" Democrats stomping their feet in defiance because of Hillary is humiliating and embarrassing.

By all means, take your petulance to the other side. Your lack of vision and shrill voices are truly unwelcome. However, they are a great fit for the defensive and volatile nature of John McCain.

Who's going to be running the country? Biden or Obama. Picking Biden as VP was only good as far as Biden's foreign affairs background. Who's going to know what to do in the event of a terrorist attack on this country? It sure as **** won't be Obama. Obama will be shoved out of the way so Biden can handle the crisis. Obama lacks the experience to defend this country. Biden was a candidate for President, but he did not get enough support. Picking Biden goes against the "Change" that Obama's campaign is centered on. Biden has been up on the Hill for 30 years. He's a big Washington insider. No "change" here. If Obama wants to redistribute the wealth from Corporate America to poor people, Biden is from Delaware where most Corporations incorporate. If you think for one minute Biden will go against Corporate America, think again.

Nice to see an intelligent presidential candidate and his running mate. Its been a long time since we have had the opportunity to elect some smart people into the most important public office.

Both are excellent communicators which is critical.

Dont know how anyone could ever vote for McCain. He struggles to find words and he really has gotten in over his head. He will forever be remebered as the guy who was asked how many houses do you have and answering "I dont know ask my staff". What a moron!

I like Joe Biden and it is interesting that Obama has chosen him. It does seem an odd fit with his 'change' message. It's good to see Obama is practical and that, gasp, he actually wants to win.

Biden's middle name is Robinette. . .that sound kinda French. Are we going to see a commercial about it?

As a (one-time) enthusiastic Obama supporter, I am VERY disappointed in this choice and don't know if I can continue to support him.

Biden is a tool of the predatory credit card industry. He isn't the senator from Delaware as much as he's the senator from MBNA. Whatever they want, he delivers.....like legalizing 30% interest rates for people who papy an hour late.

Biden was also instrumental in inflicting America with the Bankruptcy Reform Act, which makes it almost impossible to file bankruptcy even if it's no fault of your own. The vast majority of people file because of illness, unemployment or divorce.

Shame on you, Barack. This is change for the worse.

GREAT CHOICE....
Go back and look at Bidens voting record, and the things he has said in public for the world to see, then Jump for joy at Obama's choice. No surprise here, the Right has been saying all along he will NOT choose Hillary, and he will choose Biden. Guess Obama proved them right.
Disappointing he could play right into their hands, they have all they need now for defeat.

I have been a democrat all my life.
They used to be for blue collar workers.
Now the environmentalists have forced jobs out of this country into unregulated parts of the world where they can pollute without regard and make record profits. How does that help the planet? All it has done is diminish our ability as consumers to remain relevant to the world economy. As soon as we lose our consumer element, who will care what we think?

Why would Obama be good?
Can anyone answer that without giving bumper sticker answers?
I’m not saying McCain is the answer, but Get Real!!!!!

People who are in here saying if Hilliary
didn't get chosen as Obama's Vice-President
that they will vote for McCain, they need
to grow up and start using their brains.
If you vote for McCain the United States
of America will be worse than it is now and
you have made it so. Stop acting like
spoiled little children and think about this
great nation, and our children and their
children, voted for McCain they will have
not future. Oh, yes they will have one with wars, and spending their life paying
for McCain's stupidity like Bush.
Wake up before it's to late.

When we go to the polls in November to vote, Do we really care who the vice presidents are going to be? All that matters is that who will be the next president.

Braindead and brainwashed myopic morons, hypocrites and faux christians for the republican party along with the corporate controlled media will destroy this country. So please any Hilliary supporters please help them out by voting for looney tunes John McSame.

Biden's not change? Yeah he is! The change Obama's talking about is kicking out those fat idiot repuglicans. Democrats had nothing to do with screwing up this country, people like McCain were in power for 6 of the last 8 years. Isn't it interesting that as soon as Bush and Cheney get elected everything goes to hell? What changed? Only the executive branch. Then 2 years ago Dems got a SMALL majority...and you hold Biden and other lifelong Dems responsible for what a conservative congress, conservative court and conservative executive branch did for 6 years? The only change I want is for repuglicans to be booted out of Washington back to their backwater plantation states.

If you're a Hillbot voting for McCain, that's just proof of just how stupid you really are. If my some miracle McCain wins, you'll get a conservative Supreme Court, Rowe V Wade overturned and damage to the Constitution that will take generations to fix. A vote for McAncient is a huge step backward for this country. Obama made the right choice with Biden.

honestly, no matter who he picked, people were going to complain. No, he didn't pick Hillary, and personally I'm glad he didn't. The Clinton's need to learn that whining isn't the way to get what you want.

On to Biden - I seriously believe this was the best choice. Biden has unbeatable foreign policy experience (something that Obama has been getting hammered on), and the man has been elected as a Del.'s state senate 6 times. 6 TIMES. He must be doing something right, because that just doesn't happen to the average senate.

And talk all you want about how he says stupid things occasionally , but the measure of a man isn't by what he says, it's what he DOES that really matters. This was a great decision on Obama's part, and I can't wait to see the big debates.

We all need to focus on the facts. I'm so tired of people saying they're voting for McCain just because their favorite didn't get the nod. People like that are a disgrace to democracy, and should be ashamed of themselves for being so petty. Choose a candidate with your logic, knowledge, and wisdom, not with your emotions.

And enough with this "elitist" stuff. You make mountains out of molehills just to call him that, when really it's just name calling. Whether Obama is elitist or not, it shouldn't make a difference. It all comes down to what he's going to do for our country.

So, set aside your prejudices, your bitterness, all your emotions, and look past all the public relations BS, and analyze the FACTS before you make your decision in November. Don't let CNN or Fox News or any other news station convince you who to vote for. Do some research on your own, and then choose for yourself.

If after all this, you choose McCain, that's fine. If you choose Obama, that's fine too. But don't muck up the great process of democracy because you let a candidate play off your emotions. Americans are more intelligent than the world gives us credit for, let's prove it to them - Not through military force, not through idle threats, but through insight, wisdom, and knowledge. "Be the change you want to see in the world."

I'm a Hillary supporter who will be voting McCain this year, even though I have voted Democratic all of my voting life. But then, I'm an "irrational," "closet-Republican."

Rather than considering WHY Hillary supporters are unsatisfied with voting for Obama, it's apparently easier to name-call. Perhaps part of the reason may be due to the lack of respect and courtesy that Obama supporters have Clinton supporters. All the name-calling will only make me more steadfast in voting McCain. Think it won't matter in November?

Oh please... I can't wait for the conservatives to start spamming the airwaves with their diatribes about socialism now. What a pack of garbage this whole "debate" is on this forum; skewed polls, self righteous blow hards, and haters. I think Biden is an excellent choice - and as a matter of fact, Obama could have picked Charles Manson as his running mate, and the team would still outshine McSame on ethical issues.

Obama just showed how ignorant he really is... he not only lacks experience he has poor judgement. Choosing Hillary for his VP would have been his best bet to win. He has let the primary bitterness cloud his judgement ... which tells you how immature his thinking is and just what kind of a President he will be. If no independent candidate enters the race and gives America something else to vote for ... then I will write Hillary in as my candidate and I hope all other Hillary supporters will do the same. Biden is a long-term "do nothing" insider who should have been replaced long ago. If Obama thinks that Biden will strengthen his ticket in any state besides Delaware, he is sadly mistaken.

Had Clinton been Obama's choice it would have meant that I would have been obliged to consider the horror of electing Bush for a Third term. Thank God that's no longer staring me in the face.
Losing with a bit of grace, is it beyond the former Clinton supporters? Is claws-out nastiness what they stand for? Isn't that part of why she lost? Having lost to Obama are they now going to lose to McCain? Don't they stand for anything beyond a one-note militancy?

Ha! Haha!
Hahaha! Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

From a conservative's standpoint, having literally no decent candidate to choose in this election, I support Obama's pick because it will help McCain.

I am a Clinton supporter who will be voting for McCain, and would be doing that whomever Obama picked for VP. I think that with this pick Obama admits he is vulnerable on the experience issue - has picked a "teacher". And Obama has picked a consummate Washington insider - so much for the "change" and "broken" politics theme. I have heard Biden speak, and Obama has picked a good debater to balance his lack of skill in that forum. I respect Biden, and I agree he was a very qualified candidate in the Democratic race for the nomination. But he bombed as a candidate, so I think that he is also a risky choice for Obama.

The split in the democratic party will get McCain elected. Too many Hillary-supporters will stay home on election day. In a tight race, this will make some of the swing states go to McCain.
Clinton would've been a better alternative.

To some people when Obama says "change" they think he means the opposite of Bush. But he really means the opposite of the polarizing politics born in the 60s that has dominated the politics of the baby boomers. Biden is quite consistent with Obama's vision of change because he has never been part of that sixties style politics.

by Elder,"...if they win, they are going so siphon out more of your money than you will ever realize." Really. I sure realize how much has been siphoned in the last 8 years.

8 years ago the budget was in surplus. This year gas has been over $4.00/gal. China owns a huge chunk of our HUGE debt (wonder when they will forclose).

McCain may have been a patriot once long ago. With a voting record 95% Bush supportive he is a traitor - just like Bush.

I am an Massachusetts resident. I voted for Hillary in the primary. I am a 46 years IT professional and a mother of two teenagers. I am NOT republican but an independent. I am going to vote for McCain

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And soon you'll see you job outsourced to. I hope you get everything you ask for. More war for oil. A bankrupt country. Keep listening to neo-con radio, they'll set ya straight.

A Welsh coal miner's son as vice president. Who would have thunk it?

After a week's worth of hype and pomp and circumstance, Obama chose "safe" over "change". This pick is reflective of a campaign that has slipped into a stall mode, unable to fight back against McCain's senseless charge about his rising celebrity (how many times did McSame appear on Letterman and SNL?) and afraid to point out that McSame was admonished for his role in the Keating 5 scandal after he launched in his Reczko attacks this week.

I was a Obama support from the beginning and gave money to his campaign effort. This has brought great expectations full of the sound and fury but in the end signifying nothing...the same old Washington politics. I'm disappointed in this selection and am not sure at this point whether or not I will vote for him in November. Unlike the Clintonites out there, I WILL NOT VOTE for McCAIN!

Anyone that could vote for a Republican candidate after what the party has dealt our world these last 8 years must either be very, very wealthy or very, very stupid.

Biden is not a Washington insider.

Fun fact: He doesn't even own a residence in DC.

**EVERY SINGLE DAY, HE TAKES THE TRAIN HOME TO DELAWARE TO HIS HOME.**

Maybe Johhny Sidney McMansion III could learn something from a guy who is really dedicated to the people of his state, and not to the inside-the-beltway K-street crowd.

OK, I am very very disappointed in Obama. I am a Hilary supporter and prior o this I was considering voting for obama, with this my Vote goes to Mccain. Obama should have thought why 18mil voted for Hilary?

BONNIE WILLIAMS: go crawl back under your rock, troll. Only Republicans have proven themselves capable of stooping low enough to employ focus group-tested McCarthy-era wordplay like "Democrat party".

That is how it starts the FALL AND DEMISE INTO THE ABYSS OF OBLIVION OF BARACK OBAMA!!

Does anyone remember what happened to Anita Hill? Biden refused to meet with her in private which resulted in the worst Supreme Court pick in the history of the country plus total humiliation for a good woman. Of course, this happened when Obama was still in diapers!

picking up Biden, then I'll vote for McCain. the very reason that Biden had not won his primary presidential ticket said lots about...

i was hoping that Obama would pick Hillary, for the one reason of "Change", and for history-making. but oh well, it seems that the oval office does not even make any more sense--it does not matter who is sleeping there because it is same-old...same-old...and "No Change".

I would have chosen Jim Webb of VA, former Secretary of the Navy to bring in VA, NC, and the hardliners/independents of the Upper Midwest and Pennsylvania. Now the race got much closer. Let's just hop McCain does something dumb like picking Joe Lieberman.

As a true conservative (Bush isn't a conservative, he outspends Ted Kennedy), I'm thrilled with Obama's choice. Biden has been unable to win the Dem base in running for President twice now. This message board proves that he can't ignite the Dem base. He also doesn't appeal to middle America either.

Thank you Obama for completing your self-implosion. Crises averted.

The deal has always been Bill Clinton for Veep, since before Iowa. Somebody's going to pay for this.

Vote for McCain confirmed :)

Im sick and tired of this lack of experience crap! Neither Clinton, Reagan, or Carter Had been to Washington and they were elected president

Joseph Biden brings to this presidential race what panty hose brought to petting.

All these idiots claiming to be distraught over Biden as a choice are right-wing operatives. Call me a conspiracy theorist but whether they realize it or not, they are acting as right-wing operatives. Honestly, there is so little controversy around Biden that when these bloggers feign dissappointment in BO's choice it reeks of Rove. Left-wingers may typically like to party but right-wingers are known for their dirty tricks.

Thank God he didn't pick Hillary. The republicans have been waiting in the wings to drag out Whitewater, Travelgate and Monica Lewinsky. Now they have no ammunition at all.

My vote is now confirmed: McCain
Obama BLEW IT.

Lynn: "Voting for McKinney or Nader just nullifies my vote - it's the same as staying at home"
So is voting for whoever loses.

"No to Hillary means that I vote for mccain!"

I suppose you voted for Nader the last times around? Maybe Ross Perot back in the day? This has nothing to do with party loyalty. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face. Good luck to your children in McBush's legacy.

"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism."

I don't really believe these numbers.

How do these respondents really know how they will respond until they see it? People are wrong all the time about *what they say they want*. Advertisers and marketers learned a long time to watch what people do, not what they say.

We'll see in the coming weeks how the public really likes this ticket. I for one think it is the best possible choice for Obama given the field of candidates, all with some negatives.

And fwiw, McBush has far worse options. That will be fun to watch.

It doesn't matter. McCain was a POW! He couldn't cheat, lie, dissemble or fart. He's so virtuous, he didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings that he has a few more houses than the average American.

Senator Biden: You might enjoy grooving to the music better at RNC since they are featuring your favorites like the Beach Boys, Charlie Daniels Band, and of course the ever popular "Capital Offense" band with Mike Huckabee. I'm sure that will bring back a lot of memories of your youth. Maybe RNC will have an extra rocking chair you can use.
I know you will bring that "change we can believe in" to the ticket.
Rock on!
Heather

PS By the way, did you drink your prune juice today?

Oh, my, what a horrible choice!

I was going to vote for Obama, but this has changed my mind. How can you reach so far into the old Democratic party and claim that you are going to change things.

I am incredibly disappointed and I know that I will not be alone in feeling this way.

Pete at 8:51 a.m.: so, at the Saddleback Faith Forum, did you happen to notice that Obama wore a flag pin but McCain didn't? When will you let go of the silly insanity that wearing jewelry determines your patriotism?

This is not a good ticket. It does not excite people. Hilary would have been the best VP choice if democrats wanted to win the election. This thing is now gone and McCain will be the next President of the United States. Why Obama never vetted Hilary for VP?.

Although he is loosing, I still support Obama's historic candidacy. He wrote the history but lost the final lap of the race. That is my conclusion. No need to wait until Nov 4!

Tim
Arlington, VA

As one who doesn't live in the land of the free, I love to watch y'all spinning in the wind. Of course whoever gets picked this time out, it will be a bad choice. That's the Anmerican way!

keep on screwin up, it makes for a great global show!

Biden will be Obama's attack dog during the campaign. He will get his hands dirty while tearing McCain down, leaving Obama clean. Biden will excel in a role like this.

Claus from Finland: "The split in the democratic party will get McCain elected."

Don't underestimate the effect that Bob Barr's candidacy will have on the jaded Republican rank and file who have watched the party of small government obliterate the budget.

"Im sick and tired of this lack of experience crap! Neither Clinton, Reagan, or Carter Had been to Washington and they were elected president "

Reagan ran California which is bigger than most countries. He had experience. Carter didn't have experience and it showed.

all these Hillary dead-enders who say you'll vote for McCain - did you watch last Saturday when McCain bragged about an unblemished pro-life record?

Did you watch his answer about which Supreme Court judges he would not have appointed? His admiration for Scalia?

When your daughter dies from a coat hanger abortion, and you look where the blame lies, look in the mirror.

I cant beleive people kept saying obama pionned change and picked a old washington insider, how can you make change not to use an insider obama every body think he is a novice but you' ve got to give him some credit with his jugment. you need a rebele to denounce the notorious rebele I think that a smart move.

Simple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw

Biden and Obama ?
Now that is the true "BO" ticket
....it stinks

I can not stand Bush, but ask yourself is your life better, worse, or the same as it was 8 years ago? I'm telling you, it doesn't matter, except for the ones put in harms way.

Hahaha The candidate for change chooses "the most typical white person " senator in Congress. Now that's what I call CHANGE.

Where are you Hillary???
As if we need another example of poor judgement.
Joe Biden, a politician who has slopped at the public trough all his working life, no administrative, military or business experience...but a loud mouth. please someone, is there any legislation in over 30 years in the Senate with his name on it????
Bad choice, a sure looser in November
Where are you Hillary?

The Democratic Party comes up one taco short of a Mexican special platter on this one.

To Jess, good job defending yourself and your generation. Young minds generate new innovative ideas, rather than clinging to archaic ways because they don't understand the concept of or are afraid real progress. Thanks for paying attention and doing the research. Spread the word to your young friends that the US can rise again as a leader of the free world (leading by example) rather than a "hated war machine" and a bully who's intellectual nest egg has been depleated, as charismatic diplomats rather than instigaters of conflict, as investors in education, as friends rather than foes. Remember, nothing has ever been accomplished by not talking to the other side. It hasn't worked with Cuba and won't work with Iran. In order to have "any" measure of influence against terrorism, oppression and such, the US MUST have the respect and admiration of the world. We will never obtain this if we are perceived as Christian Crusaders. Fear not the label of "liberal". Where it proudly as the origin of this word is "liberty". It stands for more freedom, not less. It does not stand for more welfare or less security. Those are ideas manufactured by right in an effort to scare Americans. Remember, the rest of the world does not see Americans as we see ourselves. We are hard working, good caring giving peace loving people. I don't know about the rest of ya, but I want the world to know this.

Well the Rupublican creeps have really came out on this. Is there a full moon out there???

@ JIM
It is easy to take the train home when you live a stone's throw away from the Capitol. Are you suggesting other senators waste time commuting to and from work every day !! then you are a bigger idiot then Obama.

Incidentally Biden is supposedly the poorest senator - negative net worth of $300K - imagine what the deficit of this country is going to look like if this ticket ever gets elected.

Ofcourse the good thing is this ticket would never win - just like the previous two

Democrat for McCain :)

Biden might be the best choice on an objective basis, but Politics is rarely objective. It's about energizing your base to go out and vote and tippin' the undecideds your way. Time will tell.

"...The pick suggests to me that some of the criticism of Barack as elitist may have a germ of truth."

Posted by: Joe | August 23, 2008 8:33 AM

Well done, Joe. I'm sure the rest of the silly little GOP commenter brigade will be very impressed.

For those Hillary supporters that still want to support a woman, consider Green candidate Cynthia McKinney, former six-term congresswoman. She's strong on the issues and even selected another woman, Rosa Clemente, for her vice-presidential candidate. Why spend your vote on patriarch McCain when you can vote for a woman?

Joe Biden is smarter and more experinced than Obama .... and I still would not vote for them. They are both socialist liberals. One knows he is and the other dosen't .... Both do not hold my views of America.

Republicans vs. Democrats.

No matter who wins, we lose.

So, on Election Day, exercise your Constitutional right to vote! Remember to pretend you're making a difference when you do!

Can't anyone see that this is all just bread and circuses?

I dont mind that Obama sold out to aipac. I'm christian, and I won't let anyone touch Jesus's birthplace!!!

I think it is interesting that, in contrast to Kennedy's nomination in 1960, no one today seems to think it is of any significance that Biden is Roman Catholic. So I suppose we've made at least *some* progress since then! *;-)

Biden is probably the best choice Obama could make. Obama needs a running mate that doesn't have the baggage Hillary carries, and needs someone who can get down in the trenches and mix it up with McCain.

Sure, Joe has the tendency to speak his mind -- even if it is uncomfortable for those around him. But he knows McCain better than anyone, and knows how to get under McCain's skin.

The added bonus is that of all the candidates that ran in the primaries -- Republican and Democrat -- he had the best credentials as far as experience.

Obama didn't need a running mate that was like him, he needed one that could BALANCE him.

It is funny to read the comments here complaining about Obama choosing Biden. It seems to me that regardless of who Obama picked, someone is going to find fault with it.

If you support the Democratic ticket at all, quit looking for the negatives -- you will always find them -- look at putting the Democrats back in the White House and restoring our democracy again.

Everyone in Hillary's inner-circle knows that she DID NOT want the job as VP. She can't come out and say that, she wants to look like she'd support the party in anyway she wants to. But she's much rather be a powerful senator than #2 in the White House...again.

Obama couldn't choose Hillary so stop holding it against him. She didn't want the job.

Biden is a great choice. He'll be a viscous attack dog in the election. McSame doesn't stand a chance.

I was predicting that to be able to win and history making in the US, Obama must have Hillary ticket. else, so many of votes would shift, and at the end our democrate would just gone blank for any 4 years in the oval office...where is all the think tanks, is there any?

sad, i give my vote to McCain as well.

McCain + Hilary = White House

"If I can't have Hillary, I'm going to take my ball and go home! Wahh, wahh wahh!" Give me a break. Hillary is a fine candidate, it was a close primary, but Obama got the nod. I'm sorry. It happens. Please don't let McCain win because your feelings are hurt. Please? I would have liked to see Obama/Clinton 08 also, but we don't always get what we want.

After the last eight years, if somebody put a gun to my head and told me to vote Republican, I'd tell them to pull the trigger.

It's absolutely amazing to me how many are trashing Biden when they've obviously NEVER listened to the man. Even Republicans admit that there is NO ONE in Congress that knows more about foreign policy than Senator Biden. The notion of an Obama/Biden ticket is not a frightening thing to me. The frightening part is the number of people with no critical thinking ability (as evidenced by many of these posts) that will be voting in November. Do us all a favor and STAY HOME.

The best way to bring about "change" is to partner with an experienced DC insider. Without Cheney, how else could Bush have successfully enacted his horrific agenda? With Biden, Obama can now deliver on his promise and undo the damage that has been wrought on this great country of ours. Bravo Obama!

Just the pick I was hoping for. Small NE state is a plus in my book, and Biden is great.

The Obama/Biden ticket has my vote right now, and I'm not sure there's anyone McCain could pick who would surpass this team.

We will see. As that three-quarters of those polled, and the population they represent, get to know Joe Biden many of those intending to vote for McCain or who are undecided will vote for Obama-Biden.

Joe Biden is a rock-solid, ultra-competent American leader in foreign relations, judiciary and domestic policy. Together, Biden and Obama will lead this nation out of our dark days of national dengue and the destruction of our democracy put on us by Bush, Cheney and Rove.

In making this nation whole again they will clear the path for real Republicans to regain control of their Party and show the world what a real democracy can do for humankind and the planet.

At the Democratic debates, everyone kept saying "I agree with what Joe (Biden) said."

When everyone peed in their pants when asked if they would send troops to Darfur, Biden was the only one with the courage to say "Yes, absolutely."

Biden was my choice for President. That "plagarism" crap was just that. He attributed that quote accurately a number of times, one of his opponents got a tape of the one time he didn't. In these Youtube times, you would be able to find dozens of clips of him giving credit for that section of his speech to the British politician he was supposedly plagarizing.

As for negating the "change" platform, he's going to be VP, not President. Obama will be making the final decisions.

To all of the disappointed Hillary supporters:
Obama was not my first choice-I feel like Ron Paul is the only statesman that was running. But our election process works by a process of elimination and so we are left with picking the best option of what remains, which is not always our first choice.

To let our egos get involved and say "my favorite wasn't chosen so I am going to be spiteful and vote for McCain" is not very supportive of the Democratic process, more of a childish reaction than a responsible voter.

Obama would be far more like Hillary than McCain would ever be.

With the Biden selection, the Demo ticket just went from big liberal to extremely big liberal and away from the founding fathers of this country on moral issues. Joe Biden may be good DC insider, but I hope enough Democrats will see through the whole thing and realize that having the first public appearance in the "Lincoln capital" of Springfield is certainly not what President Lincoln would appreciate. It's a ploy to deceive Americans into thinking Obama and Biden are on the same page with our 16th president. They are a long way from that.

Joe Biden is the best choice Obama could have made--after Hillary, of, course! Go Obama/Biden!

For all of you Clinton supporters that are still salty... realize this .. HELLO .. Do you NOT think she will have a huge role in the Obama/Biden White House (there is no doubt she WILL BE senior staff) .... Do you think she will be involved at all with Mr. McCain???.. Lose the "I'm taking my ball and going home attitude... " and grow up .. Clinton publicly supports Obama ... McCain is clearly a 3rd Bush term .. and your anger will hurt this country .. and then what point will you prove when we are worse off then we are now .. the last 8 years need to end .. Clinton is happy about the Biden choice .. maybe you should follow her lead.

by Elder,"...if they win, they are going so siphon out more of your money than you will ever realize." Really. I sure realize how much has been siphoned in the last 8 years.

8 years ago the budget was in surplus. This year gas has been over $4.00/gal. China owns a huge chunk of our HUGE debt (wonder when they will for close).

McCain may have been a patriot once long ago. With a voting record 95% Bush supportive he is a traitor - just like Bush.

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The only thing McCain did was go to war. Just like millions of other guys. The GOP trashed Kerry and he was in the thick of it. John McCain crashed 5 planes and sat out the war while being captured. I don't know where he get this big war hero status from. That's right, the press. The imaginary maverick.

Some people posting here sounds like they live on another planet.Since when did wisdom and brilliance become negative traits in a person in America?....The answer: since GWB and Chenney got sworn in. You people should wake up from your slumber, another 4 years of McBush type policies will simply ruin us...as a nation.I mean total bankruptcy!

In the first place, Harvard Law School is not that hard to get into, it is Harvard College (undergraduate) that is extremely selective. Even if you credit Obama with being smart (as opposed to slick and devious), he still is intellectually lazy. He hasn't bothered to study issues in depth or actually do ANYTHING in depth. Hillary Clinton has been diligently studying all the issues since arriving in the Senate, while Obama got bored his first year and concentrated on his self-promoting autobiography. Yet if I continue to support Clinton and fail to back an arrogant, unqualified dilettante I am accused of being vindictive. I prefer to call it being principled and insightful.

Well, Scary Barry Psychobama has picked a lefty that is as nutty as he is. McCain's job just got a lot easier:)Thanks Barry!The only change will be what's left in everyone's pockets on 4/16:( It's gonna be fun to demolish Hilldog in '12!

Biden is not a good running mate. I know him myself, and he is a very very sexist man. Not a good chioce.

The ticket would have been much better if the protagonists' roles were reversed.

As it is I will vote Republican for president and 100% Deocratic for Congress.

I've been around long enough to know that it doesn’t make much of a difference who ends up in office. Obama, McCain.. Whatever.. Very few presidents are able to make the kind of drastic changes Obama proposes. Don’t fool yourself; Obama is a politician feeding off of what the American people want to hear. The Biden selection only supports that statement. I suppose by selecting Binden as a running mate Obama won’t play the “age” or “lifetime politician” card against McCain – at least I don’t have to hear that anymore. I’m willing to bet, regardless who ends up in office, not much will change.
Wait a minute, didn’t congress vow to make lots of changes last election, how has that worked out?

I personally hoped for Caroline Kennedy as Obama's VP choice - popular, smart, independent and media savvy. Biden's a safe pick but not likely to sway the electorate. The Republicans are more likely to melt down with their VP choice unless he (or she) is a McCain clone. We're waiting...

At the very least, Biden is intelligent, and that is far more than we have in either Presidential candidate, and far far far more than we've had in Cheney, and his delusional crew of MORONS.

I hope he is also realistic, able to face some very difficult problems.

Again, how did he vote on FISA?

Good choice from Obama.

Problem is, that all the candidates present flaws: Kaine's inexperience on the national stage; Sebelius potential to alienate Hilary and her supporters because Obama would have chosen a different woman; Bayh functioning as a a Washington insider and voting for the war in 2002 etc. Biden's problems from questioning Obama's readiness to be president last year is something he can easily offset: he noted that "at that time" Obama was not ready for the presidency......and now, after showing his mettle in the public arena, Biden can note that he is.

Biden offers two useful qualities: he's strong on matters of national security and foreign policy (and knows how Washington works), and is verbally adept enough to be the attack dog Obama needs going forward. My favorite sound bite from the primary debates came from Biden re Guiliani: "His entire position consists of a noun, a verb and 9-1-1!"

Let the good times roll!

Obama's pick has nothing to do with anything except good old fashion'd numbers and politics. With Biden, his numbers tells him that he picks up PA, and a greater percentage of on the fence white voters, than what his other options turn-out. PA is an important state overall. If we was a real candidate of change, he would've gone outside the beltway, way outside, and at least gone through a vettin process for some "out of the box" options - at least that way he could've come back and said, that he at least looked at real change candidates but the election being the prize, he etc. etc. etc. That would've been a more credible spin and build up for the Biden choice. Right now, this ticket is in trouble - once the hype dies down, and over thirty + years Biden is bound to have skeletons that he's even forgotten about. Get ready.

Mark Wright: "They are both socialist liberals."

Behold the fruits of 20 years of right wing hate media. Walking billboards for education reform, these people are.

"Even Republicans admit that there is NO ONE in Congress that knows more about foreign policy than Senator Biden"

Give me a break. I've not heard one GOP leader say something so ridiculous. Cite your sources.

By selecting Biden, Obama has at least given union leaders supporting him an opportunity to convince their members to vote for Obama. Most people do not realize that a large percentage of rank and file union members (e.g., police officers, firefighters, construction workers) are not tree hugging, liberal extremists. Those union members lean towards being fiscally and socially conservative, pro-life, pro-military, etc. They are, in fact, the same moderate voters that Hillary showed Obama has trouble winning over. The are also the very voters that find John McCain to be a safe alternative to Obama.

Biden also has very strong support amongst the moderate union members. Picking Biden makes it a lot easier for these union members to vote for Obama. At the very least, they can internalize a vote for Obama as an endorsement of Biden rather than support of Obama whom they do not really like.

I think the same analysis will apply to non-union members with similar political ideology as the union members discussed.

At the very least, Biden is not going to lose Obama votes as Tim Kaine and some of the other potential VPs might have. As inexplicably close as this race is, not losing votes could be enough for Obama.

VP choices usually don't help win elections, though a bad choice can hurt a Presidential candidate's chances. Obama chose well in picking Biden. He will be a solid surrogate and an excellent addition to the cabinet when they are elected. Biden's not a 'yes' man and he's someone with mature judgment and a strong, positive desire to make America a better place. Go Obama/Biden 2008!

Biden is not a very good choice because he comes with all that plagiarism spare baggage that caused him to be a non-starter in 1987.

The best VP would be Arnold.

@hmPierson
Your daughter would not need to die froma coathanger abortion, if you just accepted the fact the she made a mistake and loved her and loved the child she would bring into this world.

Pro-choice democrat for McCain :)

Great choice! http://soonerthought.blogspot.com/2008/08/we-told-you-so-its-biden.html

Bring on the debates!! With Biden in the ring it should be one heck of a slugfest.

Three words ..... WRITE HILLARY IN !!!!!!

Hillary for VP would've been a slam dunk!!!! I thought Obama wanted to win this thing.

The Obama-Biden ticket appeals to a wide demographic, plus his experience reassures voters who are worried about too much change and inexperience. This is especially important for older voters.

Personally, I think that Hillary was a fairer choice in terms of party politics as the primary was so close and Hillary and Obama have very similar views on most issues.

I think that the best choice for VP for McCain would have to be a woman. Any thoughts?

No Hillary means no vote from me and many many many others...he made a poor choice

Now that the pick is made, the question is is the party truly united. Now we have to wait for the convention.

Unfortunately, you Obamacrats forget all too soon the highly effective PLUTACRACY
of JFK. Maybe the rich are the only ones fits to rule because they can't be bought off.

Great Choice - as a middle class citizen my wallet will grow over three times what McBush
has planned for me...

Biden will be tougher than you can ever imagine on McBush and his idiot VP choice..

All I remember is Biden at one of the debates saying that his net worth is $70,000.
If that is the truth, he can't take care of his own family & now he want's to be the VP?

It is a shame that in a country of 300 million people we cannot find a better pair to run for president. Once again, I find myself voting against someone instead of voting for someone. I did not vote FOR Bush, I voted against Kerry. I now find that although my ballot will say McCain, I will not be voting FOR McCain, I will be voting against Obama.

no one wants to admit they're swayed by VP choice.. or negative ads..., but they are. Excellent choice by Senator Obama. Now we're ready to finally out these pitiful republicans away, hopefully for good!

VP JOE BIDEN insures against an October Surprise of the international order. The ticket needed that kind of insurance. Other candidates who could have provided it include Wesley Clark, Jim Webb, and Clinton. Joe Biden is the best selection.

The Vice-President doesn't do anything anyways! It really doens't matter who Obama picked.

Great, solid pick...you can't change Washington without knowing which levers to pull and push, Biden makes Obama stronger, Hillary wouldn't work for so many reasons to many to list...#1 Bill...and Hillary people, why so angry with Obama, if anything Obama should be mad at Hillary and Bill, some of the things the said during the primaries really made me rethink my view of the Clintons and what they mean to the democrating party...I mean the Jesse Jackson comment in S.C. The "spade work" commment from Hillary...all of her unpaid endorsements of McCain, she's the worst...all the rest had various matchup issues with Obama...Biden is a perfect fit...it is strange though that he would be around McCain's age if he chose to run after a possible 8 years of Obama Biden...I love the right wing nonsense about socialist Liberals, makes me laugh...I think these guys can end up being a lot closer to the center than you think.

roxlaw, you apparently havent read much about the obama harvard law experience. when you are the editor of the law review and you havent written ONE thing of distinction. that tells you something: affrimative action hire. i know terrible as it is. but if you dig around. you'll see. look for what the folks that were around at the time are saying my fiend. (

This is the Democratic version of Bush / Cheney - the puppet show, with the VP pulling the strings :)

Democrat for Mccain :)

If Obama had chosen Al Gore as vice president, I would have switched tickets. That's how important I think the environment is. Right now, we have two of the slickest politicians on the planet verses "McSame." I feel sick to my stomach. When are we going to get some real candidates to vote for? If you make a decent living, your going to lose your shirt, because their ain't gonna be no mercy on you rich white honkies, and on the other hand, we have more corporate tax breaks, and endless war-mongering. We can't win, no matter who we vote for. It is a disgusting situation.

McCain's just an old putz who can't make a coherent statement when not scripted. Get this over quickly and let's rock and roll with a fresh new start in DC. Go OBAMA!

"Here at Protestants for Peace, we feel very let down. We had been hoping for a more ecumenical choice, especially our favorite, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA)."

Posted by: Rev. E. Raleigh Pimperton III | August 23, 2008 8:34 AM

THIS STATEMENT SAYS EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHY I WOULD NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT ANYMORE.

The best part about this pick -- the "Hillary or Bust" people can now go ahead and either vote for McCain or sit the dance out. Either way we don't have to read their crappy, whining thread contributions any more. The round lady has sung -- move on and shut up!

The poll claims that 75% of the respondents said the VP choice makes no difference to them. That's astounding! After 8 years of Dick Cheney, how can ANYONE from this planet think that?
We get the government we deserve.

"John McCain crashed 5 planes and sat out the war while being captured."

I'm not a McCain supporter. As a true conservative, I consider his voting record to be a betrayal of conservative values. However, your statement is idiotic. He was tortured and would not give in to his tormentors. They offered him freedom if he would make some simple statements and then he could truly sit out the war. He chose the route of courage and integrity even though it resulted in more agony.

Say what you will about his politics, but he did not "sit out the war".

It's a good pick; he is a fighter, strong international credentails, and good support with labor. But in the end it won't help him win.
Obama was/is between a rock and a hard place.What he needed was not only someone who could step in and be strong, but ( the most important part) move his missing demographics.
The only person with that "star" power, with that much political power is Hillary.I know, all of you Obama-mights will say " oh, here is another of those Hillary-is-the-only-one people..". But face it. It's true and you all know it.
People are beginning to get Obama fatigue. The only way to shake up this race is bring Hillary into the fold.
In the end, Obama's ego wouldn't allow him to do it. And, right now, he is pissed because he knows it.

1st and formost, Obama is not Kennedy! 2nd McCain is nothing like Bush. His voting record and record of co-sponsering legislation with the other side of the isle is unrivaled in Congress. Obama says he is for working with both sides of the isle, and I say he's not! His record shows otherwise. Biden is as much of a loose cannon as Dick is. Unless McCain picks a real loser he is my choice.

This choice is the best indication of NObama's or his handlers' total lack of judgement. ( Let's see, I'm an MT suit... ahhh mmmm ahhh eeeh mmmmm...{NObama off teleprompter }so...... I will pick the consumate Washington creep that everybody just thought was the democrat MT suit until I showed up...) hehe

I think this is a pretty uninspired choice. Biden is OK, but he's all the same things Obama criticized about Hillary. He voted for the war, so this means Obama just chose a running mate without judgment? That's what Obama said about Hillary. Biden is another senator and a decades long Washington insider. So Obama is not about change. He's about getting elected. This is more evidence of the same. And Obama's an egomaniac because he's chosen someone who can never outshine him or challenge his star power. Biden has already proven in his failed runs that he is not a real presidential contender. So Obama picks the safe vanilla running mate who won't upstage him. But don't forget the loud mouth and integrity issue; Joe Biden was just slippery and/or arrrogant and/or dumb enough to plagiarize a speech that cost him a run for the White House once before....

This discussion proves exactly what I don't like about Obama. Unless he picked Che Guevarra or Michael Moore as his running mate, all of his lost-in-space "feel-good liberal" base would be disappointed or end up voting for Ron Paul or something.

Give me a break people.

I'd vote for Obama twice if I could over the other lunatic, but come back to reality: if Democrats really had any sense and wanted to win this election, this should have been a reverse ticket. That would have been a sure winner.

This is a disaster. Biden won't bring any change what so ever. He's alot of hot air and bad judgement and he's always pointing his finger for problems. I see McCain blowing this out of the water laughing all the way to the white house. Obama, your choices so far have proven to me your not ready to LEAD LEAD LEAD LEAD!!!!! He just handed it to the Republicans, watch.

I'm very disappointed. The only V.P. candidate that would truly represent what Democrats stand for is Lyndon LaRouche. Now I will have to vote for Corvair Ralph.

Polls don't always predict the winner. The election day will pick the winner. With God Help, hopefully Obama and Biden will win. God knows this country is in a mess and need change and the Republicans cannot provide that change. They keep digging the hole deeper and deeper. American need to get out of the hole and prosper and the only party that can bring America up is the Democrat. Obama and Biden, may God bless youall as America next President and Vice President.

I had the utmost hope in Obama, and am quite disappointed in his choice of Biden. I think this choice will further McCain's lead in the polls and ultimately will give us another 4 years of a Republican in the White House. My confidence in Obama plummeted to a point where I am not sure if I can vote for him. We'll see....

Amazing that, given the intelligence and grace and wit and valued education Obama represents, there are those on this blog who would even consider a man who graduated 894th of 899 at Annapolis, who can't remember how many houses he has, who (speaking of foreign policy) can't remember what countries are connected to each other. Instead, they're bugged that Hillary ain't the one? And they would deny a woman's right to make a choice? And they honestly believe that the world was created in 6 days? No wonder America is 41st in world literacy. How much further down the proverbial tubes do we have to go before we begin to get that the direction of the past 28 years has been fundamentally crippling to us as a nation?

Obama may be another Kennedy for picking another Johnson.

Biden was not my favorite to be v.p., but we just have to trust in Obama's decision. Maybe he thinks that you need a washington insider to get elected and truly change washington. But the focus of this election will continue to be the presidential candidate- Obama.

James B, nice thought, but they'll never shut up!

"I know Senator Biden, John McCain and you're no Senator Biden." The late Senator Lloyd Benson of Texas from the afterlife.

one other thing roxlaw, i deal with attorneys everyday in my loine of work. and i have to tell you they are about the dumbest group of poeple i deal with. its not that they dont know anything. its that they never stop to ask themselves what they know and dont know. they assume they know everything. and therein lies their fault. they can screw up tremendously, all while assuming they are right. never understanding the damage they are doing. or listening to anyone esle. or how dumb they look. sorry, its anecdotal. but 100% true. as a group, they are pretty dabgerous folks. henry 6 was pretty much on target.

go Hussein/Robinette

I could not be happier with Barack Obama's choice. I was torn between him and Sen Biden during the primaries. This is just perfect. McCain does not deserve to be called a "straight talker." Joe Biden does. Now, let's see who the man of many houses picks. I don't see many good ones surrounding him.

Here at Protestants for Peace, we feel very let down. We had been hoping for a more ecumenical choice, especially our favorite, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA).

Posted by: Rev. E. Raleigh Pimperton III | August 23, 2008 8:34 AM

This is great. Satire? A gay man and a black man in America? Did I fall asleep and wake up in 2108?

To All Hillary Supporters - Join me in voting for McCain. Let us ensure that she will be there in 2012

Voting for McCain is better then staying at home

Registered Democrat for McCain :)

I am thrilled to have Biden join Obama it will be a great combination and hopefully the American public won't be taken in by the Republican attack machine and will realize how far our country has fallen after 8 years with the Bush/Cheney team. Any Hillary fan (I voted for her in the primaries) who chooses to vote for McCain or not vote apparently is much more concerned with getting their way or punishing everyone than thinking about what our country really needs. I plan to support Obama/Biden all the way to their success in this election!!

Either you ARE for change and act like it, or you are NOT for change, or you SAY you're for change but don't act like it. Picking Biden puts Obama squarely in the last category. The result of picking a VP who voted for the Iraq War and is the consummate DC insider should be devastating to Obama's claim that he is for change. The only change he is for is changing his title from Senator to President. His election will bring about no actual change because he is an empty suit making empty promises, AKA a politician.

I believe that the implications of this poll are correct: Biden is NOT a game-changer. The most important news item over the past 24 hours was the revelation that Obama and company never seriously considered Hillary. Given the other recent poll which said that about 20% of Clinton supporters are voting for McCain and another 30% are on the fence, the veepstakes finale may cut slightly against Obama. But, for now, no game-changers.

I think the "change" that we will see this November is more Democrats voting for the GOP candidate then ever before in history!!

Biden is the best pick at this time. He is aware of the issues facing America. He is strong in the areas that Obama lacks experience and he is a Democrat. I've watched him stand up for democratic values for years and now he will be in position to right the wrongs of the other party. To often we fall asleep at the wheel and allow the RNC to hoodwink us into believing their lies and half truths. Ask John Kerry, will this happen again? The ticket is strong if you are for the average working class American, if not; 4 more year!!!

Vote Democrat

McCain has said he will appoint judges that won't legislate from the bench. Obama has made it clear he would appoint judges like Ginsburg, Bryer, and Souter.

An Obama/Biden ticket only tells us that we can expect more of the same from the left. What change is Obama talking about? No way in hell will a conservative accept that kind of worldview and practice. Gridlock is certain if Obama is elected.

Fist re Biden's choice: it is excellent; balancing act in play.

Second re poles: I have an uncomfortable feeling the overwhelming majority of Americans like the package named Obama: his persona, intelligence, eloquence, leadership style, and what he is saying. But many who agree with all of the above may also be a bit uneasy about his ethnic background at the moment, and look to others to confirm their uneasiness, which the McCain (McMansion?) attack dogs provide. And hence the wobbly polls).

But I believe in fundamental fairness of the American voting public, which will guide them to be objective when they finally vote rather than being driven by emotions or biases. Just wait and see how the democratic ticket will excite & energize the nation into voting for the ticket as never before.

The future of the nation is at stake, and McCain represents the past (pun intended) rather than the future. There is simply no comparison with Obama and Biden. One can clearly see that in the normally incoherent McCain, and his tendency to detract from issues & hard policy choices by consistently resorting to more comfortable, albeit irrelevant, zone of his account of prison years although being captured and put in prison at time of war does not in any way or logically qualify any one to be President of the United States. He just did what he was trained to do as military officer while in prison, just like other soldiers did when confronted with similar circumstances.

"ask why there is no american flag on the aircraft of the obama campaign and why all of a sudden All the pics of obama show a flag in the bacground and will mr obama come out and tell the american public did he use the coran or the bible when he took the office of senator some people say this is not important but how could this not matter our great country was founded on the principles of the bible but lately it has been going down hill the ten comandments being removed from goverment buildings prayer removed from our schools special interest groups trying to remove in god we trust from our money and we as americans just sit by and let it happen why? what has happened to this country are we just going to sit back and let special interest groups and..."

the american, you have been drinking too much sacremental wine. Remember that little thing: "seperation of church and state"?
Further, I told you to love your neighbors!

Joe Biden is the best choice Obama could have made--after Hillary, of, course! Go Obama/Biden!

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Hillary's not as good as Biden on foreign policy. Obama might of picked her if she didn't sell her soul to win the primary. She really trashed Obama. She endorsed McCain over him in public. Obama would've made a fool of himself if he picked Hillary after that. Her being like that is why so many people voted against her.

McCain has to be happy with Obama's pick. First, it did not help Obama who is slipping in the polls. Second, it ensures that at least 20% of Hillary supports will vote for McCain.

to the person who alluded to Kenedys assination in reference to Obama...I hope Al Gore is paying attention, because if this happens you will have to step up to the plate. No excuses...the country will need you!

PERSONALLY BARACK DOES'T NEED A VP,BUT BECAUSE HE HAD TO PICK SOMEONE AND HE CHOOSE THIS GUY THATS FINE WITH ME.YOU SEE THE MESSAGE STAYS THE SAME [CHANGE] I'VE GOT HIS BACK 100%.LEADERS DO NOT CHANGE FOLLOWERS DO.BARACK WANTS YOU TO LEAD WITH HIM NOT FOLLOW BEHIND HIM.21ST CENTURY PEOPLE NEED I SAY ANYMORE.

Biden is a hothead and a phony. He'll be goaded into embarrassing mistakes. He also has an unfortunate penchant for racist cracks, which have been pretty consistent. Wait'll they open the archives on some of the "macaca" moments THIS clown has had.

The best choice.

Great! A perfect match. Hillary, from the beginning, was a relic of the past. Time to Rock and Roll!

Registered Democrat here - VERY HAPPY with NOBambi's choice !!

Now I can vote for McCain with NO guilt :)

Registered Democrat for McCain :)

The Oh Biden ticket
He reminds me of Pat Reilly of the Lakers who led of lot of blacks to the promise land but rarely to the dance....

If a vice president has the power to do anything, Biden has the power to give McCain, et al, some serious nightmares. Biden will not be "swift boated." He's too savvy. He is the perfect choice, thank you.

Let's see here. Biden is a SENATOR, Obama is a SENATOR, McCain is a SENATOR. If McCain becomes President (which seems likely, despite him being the current underdog), that removes him from the Senate. If Obama wins, that now removes two Senators from the Senate. It is Congress that sets the annual budget each year, whereas the President can only advise and veto. Congress can override a Presidential veto if there's enough votes. Now who do you want for President? I'm mulling McCain b/c that helps shift Congress towards liberalism and the Democrats.

Everyone can bicker all they want about who has said what and did whatever. The fact is George Bush and his adminstration has sunk our country in the toliet. I just came from the grocery store where I had to spend $4.49 for a bag of apples. In my area last year they were less than $3.00. I am now unemployed and my Wife will be unemployed soon. Our only concern is how we are going to live and feed our two children and pay for thier medical care. I have never been so afraid for my family and the Republicans put us here. Change is our only hope.

you change junkies are pathetic, change what? Your mesmerized by a smooth talking guy who has no experience or credible results. Everybody wants change, hope and happiness. Seems like a popularity contest for class president. You all forget there are 435 congressman, 100 senators 60,000 lobbyist and corporate contributions to their campaigns. Want "change", put in term limits, limit contributions, and maybe congress will work for you instead of business and big donors.

What a great pick. Obama is showing his ability to be a leader and make great decisions. He is giving us a man who is one of America's most respected foreign policy experts, and frankly, someone who should appeal to both Republicans and Independents. Way to go!

I remember Biden saying Obama was not qualified to be President. Now Biden will have to carry his bags. And stand in the shadows. This is so funny.

An extremely bad day for the Barcky Hussein Obama campaign.

After all this time and wait, he chooses a man (Joe Biden) with the personality of a "dead fish" - and that is putting it mildly.

I can't believe that Baracky Hussein Obama did not even consider Hillary Clinton.

I can only assume that he believes that he has the women's vote locked up.

I hope that all Hispanic voters realize, that they will be at the bottom of the barrel if Baracky Hussein Obama is elected in November. He will have to pacify the black electorate after receiving 99 % of their vote.

Democrats for John McCain in 2008.

You "disgruntled Hillary supporters" aren't fooling anyone, you know :)

To: hmpierson

I completely agree with you on your assessment of these so-called Hillary supporters that are dissappointed about Biden as a choice. I don't think that they are really Hillary supporters at all. They obviously have no idea about how a real Hillary supporter thinks when it comes to a choice between McCain and Obama. I think that they are right-wing bloggers posting crap.

In a few weeks time, the American People will realize that this strengthens the Democratic ticket into the white house.

Biden will boost Obama's popularity once people catch onto Bidens experience.

Bill Obama (supposed Democrat for McCain) says:

***It is easy to take the train home when you live a stone's throw away from the Capitol.***

It's a minimum of 1 hour 15 minutes from Delaware to Washington by Acela Express

****Incidentally Biden is supposedly the poorest senator - negative net worth of $300K - imagine what the deficit of this country is going to look like if this ticket ever gets elected.****

Many Senators get rich the old fashioned way - through their connections, like Ted Stevens. Biden is to be commended for never taking financial advantage of his position.

As for imagining what the deficit is going to look like - how did that work out under rich boy Bush? Or Reagan? Or Bush I? Under these Republican presidents, the national debt went from under $1 TRILLION to $10 TRILLION in 20 years. Only $1.4 trillion was accounted for by Clinton, and had he inherited the $900 billion deficit that Reagan did instead of the $4 trillion he inherited from Bush I, the difference in the debt service alone would have resulted in a decrease in the national debt. But the "fiscally conservative" Republicans have been enriching the wealthiest Americans while writing checks our grandchildren will struggle with.

You're a Democrat like I'm an alien. You peddle disinformation, like all the sound bite limited little Republican minds do.

Who wants to be called a democrat anyway...

This selection seals the deal for McCain. It just demonstrates that Obama really isn't capable of making a smart decision or that he should leading this nation. He is part of a Congress that boasts the lowest approval ratings in the history of the United States. As a conservative, I couldn't be happier with this choice.

If joe was at the top of the ticket, I'd vote for the democrats in a heart beat. I would not elect obama, and thereby install a far left president with what looks like an equal far left congress. God help us if that happens.`
Give me centrist democrats like clinton any day. how has the far left high jacked my party, with the help of fungi like move on dot. and (this year) the national media?

the media's actions in the democratic primary were so one sides, they should have been required to have obame say after each broadcast. "this is b obama and I approve of this message"

So, now he has finally made his chioce( ho-hum) let's just hope that the Dems can get 20 extra seats in the House, and 7-9 seats in the Senate to handcuff McCain enough so he can't do anything Bush-like( ie. SC justices, another war,more tax cuts). And, while we are at it let's select another House leader and Senate leader.
I can wait another 4 years for another chance as long as we halt this slide that this country is in now!

the biden pick shows the over confidence of obama. regardless of all the comments, for the first time i will not vote democrat. hillary was never considered by obama which shows he could not move on. policitcs is not for those who keep chips on their shoulders. for me, no hillary means no vote for obama. biden is a good guy, but then, just another guy. if obama wins, there will be buyers remorse, but he won't win with my vote.

No bob Barker the price was right...

I love and respect Hillary Clinton, but I'm happy with Obama's pick of Biden. Hopefully Clinton will get a place in Cabinet.

Marross wrote:
"Even if you credit Obama with being smart (as opposed to slick and devious), he still is intellectually lazy. He hasn't bothered to study issues in depth or actually do ANYTHING in depth. Hillary Clinton has been diligently studying all the issues since arriving in the Senate, while Obama got bored his first year and concentrated on his self-promoting autobiography. Yet if I continue to support Clinton and fail to back an arrogant, unqualified dilettante I am accused of being vindictive. I prefer to call it being principled and insightful."
I can't agree more...
The only legislation penned by Obama, S2433, if you want something scary, read it.

Nice site, thanks.

Great choice, Barak made a pro move, McCain cannot use the last remaining legitamte weapon he has. Joe can be the attack dog the GOP needs, no one will question his experience... as pro war, candidiate McCain can go to sleep, the top expert in the senate on Foreign policy and supreme court is here. He knows a great deal, and has the mental fortitude to answer any zing the zingger may have..
Barak through 2016!!! the country is back on its feet, economy is moving again, we destroy the terrorist once and for all, finish with the iraqi mess (120B USD to health care, education and paying down the Bush debt. we are finished with cheney/Bush/Rove and their elk...

I'm a democrat but I don't like the direction they have gone.

Why vote for Obama??
Please don't say "change"
If I hear that one more time I'm gonna puke
Change what? Tell me!!!!!! specifically!!!
Biden himself said Obama is not ready!
I could have lived with Hillary. I liked Bill, didn't like Gore- although I voted for him. I'm glad Bush is leaving, but I will miss the humor of having him around

McCain is not Bush!!! and I'm thankful for that. He is not my choice but he's better prepared then Obama.

For those of you who won't vote for Obama because Hillary isn't with him: You will cause long term, maybe permanent, damage to the US and the world. The GOP has already caused unparalleled harm to the US and the relationships with long term allies, our economy, our unity as Americans, our trust in our government and country, and our environment. The GOP, since the Reagan era, has been a juggernaut for fascism in America and the hijacking of democracy by the large corporations to make a buck. Vote GOP and throw our country and freedom away.

The only thing positive I can say about Biden is this, at least there is now someone on the ticket that has experience in politics and has a backing of his accomplishments. The only experience Obama has is "hope for change" well to hope for something and to do something are different. Hope doesn't accomplish anything. You bleeding heart liberals better get a clue. It wasn't Bush who messed up this nation, it's been the Democratic Congress in control for the past several years.

Ronald Reagan said it best "It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."

I am a Clinton supporter but I am voting for Barack Obama. McCain has become a pro life right winger and I could never vote for him. McCain is too Old to become president. I am a 68 year old woman but know that we need fresh, young ideas. Barack is a young, smart and energetic leader, truly what we need.

This poll only reinforces what anybody who follows American Presidential politics should already know - very few people vote for a presidential ticket based on the V.P. candidate. Hair Plant Joe will neither hurt (unless he puts his foot in his mouth too often) nor help Obama. However, McCain is already using Biden's own words to highlight Obama's lack of foreign policy experience.

As a Clinton supporter, I am voting for Obama-Biden. They are the perfect balance we need to heal our nation's ills. What Obama lacks in foreign experience, Biden will supply. As much as I respect McCain's war experience, I am frightened by his support of far right conservatives for Supreme Court judges, his disdain for women's right to privacy with regard to birth control, his blind acceptance of pre-emptory war in Iraq, and his public acknowledgement about ignorance of domestic and financial issues. The choices are not perfect because the candidates are not perfect. However, we as Americans have the right and prvilege to select our leaders and we should cherish and respect that right. People have fought and died so we can exercise our rights and we owe them that much. Educate ourselves as much as possible before selecting whom we think would be the best leader and then walk proudly into our voting places and do what so many millions around the world are not able to do.

What change? Hasn't Biden been around as long as McCain? Isn't Biden one of the richest senators? Not for me.Obama threw his "change" policy out the window.

Why does this country want to stay divided into the extremes on each and every issue and does not make any progress?

On the other hand, vice presidents do cast tie breaking votes in the Senate, if I remember correctly - and Biden could be pretty useful in that regard. If Obama were President, he'd make a great advisor to Obama, while Obama could be counted on to make great speeches from the White House. But the brains behind the administration would likely be Biden's, as he is the old hand. As for change? All new Presidents aim for change. Get real.

OH AND BY THE WAY IF YOU ARE DISSAPOINTED THAT HE DIDN'T CHOOSE WHO YOU LIKED.MCCAIN IS NOT GOING TO CHOSE THAT PERSON EITHER.JUST THOUGHT I'D TELL YOU THAT.

very simple folks: mcshame=old. obama=fresh and new. we need to break from the past and move forward.

Obama/Biden '08

It is fun to see the political junkies gyrate over the issues. Fact of the matter is that both Obama and McCain are slicker than snot, they are politicians - that is what they and the people that surround them do. All I can really say is that I think the Geto Boys had it right in their video by the name of "Damn it feels good to be a Gangsta" (check out the last part where the president is allegedly on trial).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL9ihXiFAko

Obama just lost my vote!!

Hilary should be running for president. I will never vote for Barack.

Obama and Biden are two persons that this country need in order to get this country out of the mess it is in. The last eight years under the Republican has gotten this country in a mess and only the Democrats can bring this country back to prosperity. Polls don't alway predict the winner. The election is what determine the winner. May God bless Obama and Biden as our next President and Vice President.

obama is the man!

I think Biden is an excellent choice. The parallel to Carter and Clinton is apt: Change cannot happen unless someone in the White House knows how to work the system. He's also the pit bull needed to fight off the Rovians. And a working class Catholic background doesn't hurt.

I agree, though, he has to learn to curb his tongue.

I'm baffled by any Clinton supporter who would subject the country to four more years of Republican rule. If she did get elected in 2012, the war-related deficit alone would hog-tie her administration.

Obama wants to Kumbaya his way to world peace. It's great to have vision, but he entirely lacks awareness of the truly wicked people running a good part of this world, and entirely lacks awareness of how and when to use military force. Biden will only be a second voice. McCain on the other hand is nobody's fool. He's well aware of the wicked people on earth, having had his arms tied behind his back 40 years ago by some of them in Nam. He has a pretty good idea of how to use the military. But he has no vision for the future, no sense of an international community, no sense at all of how to improve the economy. The Simon & Garfunkel song becomes more true for American voters every four years: "Any way you look at it, you lose."

The words to live by:

"If you consider yourself a Democrat and have rationalized voting for McCain because your candidate did not get picked, you do not deserve to be called a Democrat for you are actually an idiot."

"As a Clinton supporter, I am voting for Obama-Biden. They are the perfect balance we need to heal our nation's ills. What Obama lacks in foreign experience, Biden will supply. As much as I respect McCain's war experience, I am frightened by his support of far right conservatives for Supreme Court judges, his disdain for women's right to privacy with regard to birth control, his blind acceptance of pre-emptory war in Iraq, and his public acknowledgement about ignorance of domestic and financial issues. The choices are not perfect because the candidates are not perfect."

Good comments.

Biden was the only reasonable choice. Picking Hillary would have resulted in endless GOP commercials showing her "Shame on You" rant, the 3AM ad, etc. When Hillary went negative on Barack, she sealed her fate. How could he have picked her with all of that footage sitting out there? Time to move forward.

Maybe Biden is the best choice, but let's hope he speaks his own mind and doesn't "borrow" speeches from the British prime minister again.

I am a flag-waving American, and proud of it. However, I frequently travel abroad and feel ashamed of the direction in which this country has gone. I am also discouraged when I hear so many individuals trashing Barack and the opportunity to take our great nation in a new direction. Please, please, please America. . . can't you see that McCain will only bring us more of the same. The choice is up to us. Continue the bickering and follow the same path, or join together with Obama and bring change to our great nation. He cannot do it alone; and, neither can we . . . but united, we can make it happen!

I had posted previously, but wanted to add a note about the idea that choosing a running mate who has been on the Hill for a long time contradicts Obama's "change" message. I don't feel that it does, if the "change" message means what I think it does. It's unfortunate that the current administration has led us to equate political experience with the ability to use that inside knowledge to manipulate and deceive. As I understand the "change" message, it doesn't mean turning away from the right kind of political experience, or from stability. I think it means turning away from the embarrassment that most of us feel as we look at what has happened to our country and our position in the world in the last 8 years. In that case, Biden represents change for me to the same extent that Obama does.

Obama: candidate for change.

He keeps changing his position.

Romano in Newsweek put it in a nutshell, "He's the anti-Dick Cheney." Does it get any better than that? Also, I think the poll results underestimate Biden's value as a surrogate. The choice underlines Obama's thoughtfulness and judgment. Frankly, as likable as Kaine is I think he would have been an electorally dangerous pick. Carp as some people always will, Biden is an excellent choice. Thank you Barack!

Obama will get spanked in November.

Just like 2004, all the talking heads will be dumbfounded asking why so many Americans "voted against their own self interest".

The majority of Americans who work for a living to raise their families understand it's not about how much candy a politician promises to give you.

Posted by: WaitForNovember |
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You know, you're right. They know it's not about promises for a change, it's about voting for promises to keep f**king you in the @ss like you've been the past 8 years.

Small act of "The Obama Judgement"
Well even Biden said Obama was not ready for president, but McCain was.

The worse form of plagiarism is the last 8 years was the Bush/Cheney Presidency. Now we have the same team Rove/Schmit trying to bring us a 3 rd Bush Term in McCain/Bush/Cheney!

Time for a change!

Obama/Biden '08

I'm thrilled and already in line for my Obama-Biden button, just ordered this morning. Although I personally favor Obama and have donated and volunteered relentlessly for him, I was still somewhat stunned during the primaries as the three candidates with least experience -- Edwards, Clinton, Obama -- shared the lead, while all the people with far deeper experience took a seat way, way in the back in the polls. This combined ticket bridges those two groups in a powerful way. It is really the best combination of a new generation of leadership with a new broadly grassroots way of accomplishing true change, with a veteran of the political wars who knows the details of how Washington operates and the hidden barriers to change.

As for this "loose lips" critique, if excessive candor and honesty is the biggest criticism the pundits can muster, you must be doing something right. Go Obama Biden!

Biden voted for the war.I'm so sick of the lying and the hypocrisy.I'm voting for Nader.I can't take the Democrats anymore.I just can't take 'em anymore

Time to VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Biden was the only reasonable choice. Picking Hillary would have resulted in endless GOP commercials showing her "Shame on You" rant, the 3AM ad, etc. When Hillary went negative on Barack, she sealed her fate. How could he have picked her with all of that footage sitting out there? Time to move forward.

For all the democrats who are thinking voting for Mac Cain, think about the next supreme court picks for God's sake. Roe vs. Wade being overturned and so on. 8 years of Republican rule are not enough???

I am interested in who McCain would pick for veep. Lieberman? Probably not. He's not a Republican, he's an indy that leans Democrat. Whoops, there goes a lot of conservative votes to Mr. Barr! Romney? That'd probably be the smart choice that I know of (he's big on economy), but he's a Mormon, and religious biases being what they are, that might turn some people off. Moreover, Mitt is a Michigan centric auto industry insider. Do we want the auto industry grubbing this administration like the oil industry did the last? How about Huckabee? He came in second in the GOP primaries and he's a Southern fundamentalist. Whoops, there goes all those liberal leaning independent votes...
Maybe McCain should pick a relative unknown like Bam did.

Bush’s abysmal approval ratings of 28% (what Truman had when he left office) are only eclipsed by the 10% approval ratings of our Democrat-led Congress. The “conservative base” doesn’t like McCain because he “sleeps with the enemy” a little too often. I like that he’s willing to reach across the political lines and try to get something done.

Biden’s acidic liberal lecturing will hopefully turn off enough voters. He has that “you must be an idiot if you don’t agree with me” attitude which completely turns me off. Thanks Obama!

Democrats for John McCain in 2008

AS I READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOVE, I WONDER AT THE COLLECTIVE WISDOM OF OUR ELECTORATE. THIS ELECTION IS NOT ABOUT INDIVIDUAL GRUDGES AND OPINIONS BUT RATHER ABOUT THE GREATER GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS FORTUNATE THIS YEAR TO HAVE TWO INTELLIGENT, THINKING PEOPLE ON THE BALLOT. THEY REPRESENT A DRAMATIC CHANGE FROM WHAT WE HAVE HAD FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS. HOW CAN WE WASTE OUR TIME ON BICKERING WITH AND INSULTING EACH OTHER? WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE ELECTION AHEAD, TO RESPECT BARACK OBAMA'S SELECTION OF A RUNNING MATE, AND TO WORK HARD TO IMPROVE THE DEPRESSED AND FRIGHTENING CONDITION THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN AFTER THE TWO LAST PRESIDENTIAL TERMS. PLEASE THINK OF THE LARGER PICTURE.

All of those saying they will not vote for Mr. Obama because of his pick or who he didn't pick (read: hilary) are just nuts. What you're saying is you would rather subject the american people and our children to more of the same (corruption, enviromental devastation, war, unemployment, recession, unaffordable healthcare, housing crisis, etc) rather than vote for change. You people are just friggin NUTS!!!

You guys think Obama is about change? One man can't change things unless Obama is talking about changing his clothes. He is a stupid liberal just like our current president Bush.

Biden was far and away the best potential president running in the Democratic primaries.

"Continue the bickering and follow the same path, or join together with Obama and bring change to our great nation." Nice idea, but if you expect everybody in the country to change their ideas to match Obama's you are dreaming. What we need is compromise -- the right and left give up a little and move to the center. McCain can achieve that. Obama never will. Obama is just the left-wing version of Bush.

Biden is a brilliant choice. He will chew up McCain, Romney, Simmons and the lot, and spit them out like the sickly little pomegranate seeds that they are.

Obama-Biden is an all-American ticket. They won't turn their backs on American servicemen (the way McCain has); or continue to penalize the middle-class while offering huge tax breaks for the super-rich (the way McCain has); or destroy our beautiful land (as McCain promises to do); or recruit new armies of enemies against us (as McCain does with his every promise of eternal war and his mind-numbingly childish approach to Russia).

Obama and Biden will have their work cut out for them, first to repair the damage wrought by Bush and his despicable cadre of neocons and McCainlets. But if anyone can do it, Obama & Biden can.

I agree whole heartedly, rosie!!!
GOOD POST!!!

CHANGE? CHANGE? THE MAN IS CORRUPT AS THE DAY IS LONG

Will Joe continue to plagiarize now that he is back in the spotlight?

Can anyone tell me what original statement Obama has made to show how "intelligent" he is? What has he done to demonstrate this?

Ivy League school? Big deal. So did both of the Bushes.

What Obama did say though is that we could save as much oil by getting tune ups and inflating our tires as we could ever get from drilling for more oil.

HE IS NOT SMART. HE IS AN IDIOT.

Republicans for Obama/Biden 2008

From my perspective, all that matters is the nature of the appointees to our courts. That is where liberty lies. To secure our future in liberty, I would hold my nose and vote for Obama, despite grave misgivings. Although I find McCain amiable and admirable, I cannot bring myself to vote for him on the basis of his "strict constructionist" judicial policy. He would bring us judges who are nothing more than the greatest minds of the middle ages. If you care about the dividing line between the government and yourself, then this is your (and my) conundrum.

There are 2 things that I had been looking forward lately. Announcement of the VP for Obama, which is kind of disapointment to ME, Bayh or Sebellius would had been ok for ME. I hope the announcement for the fight of Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar de la Hoya will come soon, surely this will make my week.

Daniel--
So Obama is a stupid liberal just like Bush? Way to go there pal. Keep up the good work.

I knew before this campaign that Democrats were not very smart, but the Obama campaign has truly highlighted how out of touch you people really are. Biden equals change? Give me a break. Tax rate increases means more revenue? Not true, just the opposite. $250k makes a family rich? Pleeeeze. No, judging by the comments from the many liberals enthused by Obama calling into talk radio these days, this party is is made up of "gimme-more" losers who don't understand the opportunities available to them...or they just don't care. You focus on how many houses John McCain owns (one less than Barack Obama!), yet you don't recognize that it is the great capitalist system of the US that gave Cindy McCain's father the opportunity to start a company and gave Cindy the opportunity to grow it into a fantastically successful business, which allows her to (and him) to enjoy the fruits of their labor. This same opportunity is available to all of you. Understand? No, I don't think you do. If you did, you would realize how dangerous Obama is to this country. But, you go ahead and vote for Obama on Wednesday, November 5th, and let the cards fall where they may.

I think Senator Biden was the best choice because of his experience.

I also think our country is at a tipping point. After 8 years of Bush/Cheney dismantling our constitution, we may be able to step back from the precipice with an Obama presidency, but with a McCain presidency I'm convinced we'll be hurled irrevocably over the edge.

Hillary ran the best race she could, and it simply wasn't good enough. I understand the disappointment and anger that some Hillary supporter have, but I hope they get behind Obama because the alternative is disaster. At the start of the Democratic primaries I made the decision that I would support the Democratic nominee whoever that nominee would be.

Some of you should try drinking something other then kool-aid
a new direction?
fresh- new?
What does that mean?????
That description could apply to any leader of any country, throughout history- good or bad!!
But to keep it simple for you;
Wasn't Bush a change from the Clinton administration? Did you like that change?
Change does not mean "better"

Posted by: HemiHead
It looks like the McCant's are getting desperate. The press has your poll numbers going up every day as you make fool's of yourselves. I'm sorry but conditioning don't work anymore.
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There you go again thinking I'm a McCain supporter. The poll numbers are going up everyday for Obama?!?! Is Obama putting hallucinogens in your Kool Aid? McCain is ROFLAO at this pick of Biden by Obama. Biden only highlights his own weaknesses with this choice and if Biden is so good then why isn't he at the top of the ticket? It is really you Obamabots that are worried today and not the McCain camp. It Obama wanted to win in November he should have put his Clinton hatred aside and chose her as his running mate. Obama has screwed the pooch with this one. Just watch how this unfolds in the coming weeks when the liberal MSM can't positively spin this poor choice for VP anymore. I'm curious as to what the polls show over the weekend. I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama's numbers drop more.

I really like this pick. I'm actually a bigger Biden supporter than I am an Obama supporter. It's not that I don't like Obama, but I did have questions about his lack of experience, and he picked seasoned, tell-it-like-it-is political veteran in Biden. Biden rounds out the ticket perfectly.

Yes, Bush is a liberal.

In my opinion it does not matter who BHO chose for a running mate, he will not be elected POTUS. This country has already turned down 2 consecutive leftist socialist with better resumes than his for this job. I can not see the electorate voting for BHO, he is further left than Gore or Kerry. The problem w/ BHO is that in order to be nominated he had to be honest about who he is to satisfy the ultra-leftist of the Democrat Party, compound that with his association w/ Wright / Aires / Resko, and the canard that we can not drill our way out of our energy problem, these will all be high hurdles to overcome. Unlike Bill Clinton, who was an incredible politician, BHO does not possess the political skills to fool the electorate into thinking that he is not who he is. The only caveat to my prediction is if the MSM, they will have to work overtime to paint BHO as a main stream middle of the roader, their first assignment is to explain away his “Change” position, in selecting Biden as his VP.

What a load of left wing high-school-drop-out crap. The two of them togeather look like the "shoe-shine-boy" & "fog-horn-blow-hard". They belong in a Lit'l Abner movie. At least Lit'l Abners Dasie May is good to look at.

Biden voted FOR the war. Biden voted FOR the bankruptcy bill and against the American workers.He has missed over 30% of his votes by being absent.

He is just another in a long line of Democrats that will do nothing to "change" America at all.

I'm going to vote Nader now, and actually try and get some real "change".

Really amusing to watch the other side pretend to Hillaryites and "disappointed" Obama supporters.

I don't know much about Biden yet. From what I know he seems to speak common sense. Maybe it's a good thing to have a DC "insider", because the inside of DC has to come along if we're going to make this thing work, 'cause.

YES!

WE

CAN.

For those who are happy with the state of the economy, the never-ending war paid for by trillions of our tax dollars and all of the other problems brought to us by our "caring" Republicans, then put your head in the sand again and vote for the McCain ticket (which is sure to have McCain's adversary Romney on it). Your reward will be 4 more years of seeing our country going further down hill.
For those who have had enough and are realistic, there is no other choice than Obama/Biden.
This independent will be voting for the Democratic ticket.

Joe Biden is a great pick. It shows that Barack Obama has the character and judgment to do what is best for the country, rather than what is best for his candidacy. Biden is smart, capable, and most of all, ready to take over if the unthinkable should happen.

To Lynn and the McClinton trolls- don't you realize the media circus that a Billary presidency would have been? Don't you realize that for every Democrat she brings to the table, she creates four new Neocons? That's why Rush & Hannity were pulling for her so hard in the primaries. SHE is the only thing that could have energized the Neocon base. A third Clinton presidency would have been a DISASTER. In our hearts, we all know that- and it has nothing to do with her sex, and everything to do with her baggage.

Obama is showing cracks over his conerns of his own lack of international experience. Not good.

Obama put on the slippery suit in his selection of Biden. Again not good. He is running aganist his own campaign theme of change.

The only thing going for Obama now is McCain's age and McCain's desire for a military draft.

LISTEN PEOPLE CHANGE HAS TAKEN ITS FIRST STEP HES CHOOSE'N A MAN WHO DIDN'T THINK HE SHOULD OR COULD BE PRES.YOU ALL BETTER WAKE UP BECAUSE THE AVG JOE COULD NOT DO THAT.AN EXAMPLE WE SHOULD ALL LIVE BY.

I'm already shocked and angry that my party could nominate a know-nothing, self-absorbed, slick, politico type as its nominee. Without Clinton as his running mate, my party definitely doesn't get my vote. Yeah McCain! The Republicans couldn't have planned this turn of events better if they'd tried. Gosh I hate voting Republican ... But I'm a responsible American and I refuse to turn my country over to a totally inexperienced charlatan who'll can lead us nowhere but down the road to trouble.

Kudos to the Washington Post and ABC for telling us absolutely nothing. Last night most people were in bed before it was certain that Biden was the choice. Public opinion last night is almostly certainly going to sway as the biography of Joe Biden comes into view. Does America know he is one of, if not the poorest Senators in the club? Does America know his wife is a teacher? Does America know the horrible incident that destroyed his family before his very eyes? Polling last night is nothing but a baseline snapshot of an uniformed electorate that will gradually become more informed for better or worse. I think the Post would be wise to look at these same questions Monday, then after the Democratic convention and again after the Republican convention.

Obama shows strong executive leadership in the Biden selection. A successful executive surrounds him/herself with strong capable persons. Such people are confident in their own skill base to recognize the kinds and levels of talents needed to enhance their vision and mission. Biden is an excellent choice.

Meanwhile the know little media pundits and other media types will only see the nit picking aspects of anything Obama does or says. These kinds of folks gain their importance as parasites of the truly capable. Also, the non achiever is totally clueless about the thinking of the executive and relate more to the good old boy; this is the quality that brought George W Bush to the White House. Unfortunate!

The O.B. Tampon Ticket

What a bloody mess!

Obama should have picked Gov. Bill Richardson or Senator Clinton.

Joe Biden can’t carry women, Latinos, much less a Native American feather.

The entire south and west is now lost to republicans!

Whatta a cross-cultural, gender-biased, change-we-can-believe-in-NOT travesty and insult!

I foresee a Denver O.B. (Tepee) Party and tampons flying at 3pm today in Springfield.

The process of running for President shows the character and judgment of a candidate. And, Obama just flunked.

First, he overhyped the entire process, implying he was going to pick someone exciting and fresh. Then he picked the person the Washington pundits suggested three months ago. Big whoop.

Second, he systematically insulted Hillary Clinton and her followers by saying that she'd be on his short list --- and then he never took any steps to even consider her.

Third, the rollout was amatuerish with the night-time text hours after the word had leaked.

Obama-Biden will be a footnote in history, like Dukakis-Bentsen.

NO HILLARY!!!! Another good decision by Obama. Obama-Biden are liked even by republicans. This country will get back on it's feet if Obama and Biden win the presidency. Sorry Hillary cry babies, but you can vote for McCain, you said you would, right!!! Go on, vote for him, what you waiting, oooh, hid vice presidential pick!!! That's gonna be a while, because he has no any good ones left anymore and perhaps John McCain forgot about it. Ya, know, you gotta remind him stuff all the time, he got old like 20 years ago.

I was a dem now I have to vote REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!
I don't trust barack at all and nobody should.

SolarDiablo--
What he said is not far from the truth. look it up, idiot. Oh, and stop diddling your son!

Posted by: John from NC
Biden is a brilliant choice. He will chew up McCain, Romney, Simmons and the lot, and spit them out like the sickly little pomegranate seeds that they are.
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Biden really tore up those Democrats that ran in the primaries. When did he throw in the towel? It was so early I can't remember when it happened. I can't wait until he tries to tear into somebody because that is when the Biden gaff machine will roar to life and give us all a good laugh. Well, maybe all of us except for you Obamabots.

I think Biden only agreed to stand next to Obama after he made sure he had thoroughly washed.

"I mean, you got the *first* mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and and and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, that's a storybook, man." - Sen Biden speaking about Sen Obama.

How can an African-American run with a racist?

Biden was a good choice. Now the
republicans don't have anything to offer in the way of experience that isn't already part of the Democratic ticket. Oh and BTW... anyone who says they are voting for McCain because Hillary isn't the VP pick are just impostors. No real democrat would ever vote for McCain. They are republican operatives trying to mislead, the only thing republicans are any good at.

After reading the posted comments, I think we need to establish a qualification test for voters.

JBsaid
"I'm a democrat but I don't like the direction they have gone.

Why vote for Obama??
Please don't say "change"
If I hear that one more time I'm gonna puke
Change what? Tell me!!!!!! specifically!!!
Biden himself said Obama is not ready!
I could have lived with Hillary. I liked Bill, didn't like Gore- although I voted for him. I'm glad Bush is leaving, but I will miss the humor of having him around

McCain is not Bush!!! and I'm thankful for that. He is not my choice but he's better prepared then Obama."
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Agreed.
My thoughts exactly-andof millions ofohterdemocrats!

Obama should have picked Jim Jones as a vp
After all, Didn't he invent Kool-Aid
Oh nevermind, Jones died
I think he drank some.

Biden's nick name in DC is HINDSIGH JOE.

Biden has all the answers.....six months after a crisis......when he loves to spout his "if people had only listened to me" 20/20 hindsigh "expertise".

Obama said that he wasn't surprised that Kentucky voted for Clinton instead of him because they are more familiar with her since she is from that region.

Last I checked, Illinois borders Kentucky but Arkansas does not.

Oh yeah, Obama's REAL smart!

Too cool, dumb and dumber!

His name in DC is HINDSIGHT JOE BIDEN.

Biden has all the answers.....six months after a crisis......when he loves to spout his "if people had only listened to me" 20/20 hindsigh "expertise".

"Obama: candidate for change.

He keeps changing his position." Awesome comment SolarDiablo! LOL

"Collective wisdom of our electorate?" Now there's a good one, Rosie. If only . . .

The conclusions of the reporters are purely conjectural. First, the question starts with an "If." Biden had not been picked yet. Second the margin of error is much tighter when you get in the teens. It is no longer %4, as when you are around 40-60%. So 13% vs 10% are not "about the same number." These are precipitated conclsions to make the headlines, at best.

When I first heard rumors of a Biden choice, I was motivated to email the Obamas to express my concerns. I got a nice thank you for my input on the VP question. Obviously, it was ignored. Here were my warnings:

1. Biden kills the whole "Change" notion. Within the DC beltway and media, Joe may be great, but how he did in the primaries says it all.
2. Biden loses the youth vote and any "young and fresh" advantage over JM. So much for celebrity.
3. Biden loses the distinction about opposing the war, since he voted in favor of it like HRC.
4. Biden was bottom of his class and shoots from the mouth like JM. Oh yeah, and the plagiarism thing brings dishonesty to the ticket when Obama is struggling to gain credibility.
5. Biden loses the women vote, since the other Senator that ran against Barack has a comparable resume, except for gender and the fact she did a thousand times better than Joe in the primaries.
6. The last time a Joe was on the ticket lost the Dems the election.

Wow. What a colossal blunder. I really wanted him to win too.

No self respecting woman will vote Obama. No man with any respect for his Mother, sister, wife or daughters will vote Obama.
Flipping the bird while saying the name Hillary and waiting for a laugh is sexist and childish. Bush has shown us how a child behaves in the White House and we do not need another.

Serious problems call for a serious response and electing the problem is not going to correct the problem. Obama ran his campaign with race baiting and sexist tactics and will lose in November because there are more thinking people than Obamabot kool aid drinkers.

VOTE McCain 2008 and HILLARY 2012

While I'll probably hold my nose and vote for Obama, it will no longer be with any enthusiasm whatsoever.

Joe Biden? The man whose 1987 campaign for the Presidency spun in because he plagiarized a speech from British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden)?

Is that really the best that the Democratic Party has to offer? A serial plagiarist?

As a lifelong Democrat I have to hang my head in shame.

Joe Biden appears to be an EXCELLENT pick for Barack Obama, except for his "loose lips"!

And John McCain's new ad using Joe Biden's words against Barack Obama HURTS. Ouch!

http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/08/john-mccain-doesnt-waste-any-time-body.html#links

I guess Biden voted more softly when he authorized the war, is that it? 0bama is a fraud.

Doug is another republican idiot!

I like Obama's choice. I think Biden is smart, honest, and experienced.

Walt misquoted Biden--are there any honest people out there?

Obama is the ultimate affirmative action candidate.
I watched his biography on CNN, and it is a joke. "He had middling grades, and wasn't focused on academics, so he went to Columbia University"!! How is that??
Obama is the worst development in appearance politics.
I am a democrat who will not vote for Obama.

Obama bin Biden 08!

It is clear now that Obama will do little to change things. We must ask ourselves if Obama has not been honest with his change themes will he be an honest President? We already have a dishonest President! Do we need another?

I've liked Biden for many years because he is intelligent, he is able to articulate sane and considered opinions on many complex issues. Biden fully understands Washington and has demonstrated for many years an ability to work the system for the benefit of Americans on either side of those two aisles. He's a great choice in terms of a go-to partner in an Obama Presidency, and by picking Biden Obama demonstrates that Obama is NOT superficial in his reasoning. Picking Biden also demonstrates that Obama is already looking ahead to actually running the country with a "best and brightest" administration.

McCain is part of American history -- Obama is part of AMerica's future.

Does being a POW, being one of the Keating 5, and exaggerating your relationship with MOTHER THERESA really qualify you for anything other than the history books? How many more "Family values" right-wing pseudo-Christian Republicans are Americans going to elect? I'll tell you: Republican voters must have an amazingly high tolerance for INCOMPETENT and HYPOCRITICAL candidates. Sheesh.

If ever there was a consummate Washington insider it is McCain not Senator Joe Biden! Biden is a true free thinker -- McCain on the other hand is a former POW and hypocrite.

Don't listen to people on here saying
they are going to vote for McCain because
of Hilliary, a real Democrat and especially
one who cares about our country would and could never vote for McCain, they are Republicans trying to persuade your vote
by saying those things. Don't listen.
Stay true and vote Obama this is the only
hope America has for change otherwise we
are going to face going down further and further into destruction.
McCain is a train wreck waiting to happen.
This country has had enough train wrecks
to last a lifetime.

Biden admits that McCain is a better candidate than Obama. See it in his own words...

http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2008/08/john-mccain-doesnt-waste-any-time-body.html#links

Where is Hillary?

Rosie! Rosie! Rosie! you wrote;
"PLEASE THINK OF THE LARGER PICTURE", that's exactly what many that post are doing. Obama will suffer the same fate as McGovern, Hillary can win.
If you are really interested in "The Big Picture", check out S2433, the only legislation penned by Obama. That is a scary piece of legislation.
He's a scary candidate.
I'm writing in Hillary.

Shaun, be encouraged.

Yes, he may be old school, but Biden failed his R.O.T.C. course, proving he's no expert in the military so you don't have to worry about him being beholden to the military-industrial complex, he's fought to protect Delaware credit card company's rights, proving he's pro-big business as long as they are contributing to his reelection so he's a pragmatist, and then there's the plagiarism thing both in law school and in the senate, proving he believes in collectivism. He even said he was in the top half of his graduating class when he was in fact near the bottom.

This demonstrates his willingness to dissemble for political gain.

So don't worry, Shaun, Biden may help Obama after all.

PUMA members=post-menopausal hystrionic harpies willing to destroy Roe V Wade because of personal pettiness

Governor Bush has screwed up this country so badly NO ONE will be able to turn it around in four years.
Obama needs to hit the ground running and although I preferred Bayh,Biden is a close second.

I am a registered DEMOCRAT in the state of Massachusetts. I am not a republican. BARACK IS A COMPLETE IDIOT WHO IS MAKING US LOOK LIKE FOOLS. HE WILL NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT!

Biden was the best choice--the only guy (besides Kucinich) who wasn't afraid to speak the truth on the campaign trail. He adds just the right touch to the ticket.

to all the cry baby "no to hillary means i vote for mcmansion" types let me remind you: three justices on the supreme court are about to kick the bucket. stop your school yard sulking and vote democrat!

Given their collective penchant for plagarism, if Obama and Biden were alone in a room to take a test, after an hour do they both walk out with blank sheets of paper?

For many of us it doesnt matter who he picks. We dont need him or his terrorist freinds, racial bigots or criminals in the White House. He has divided the nation, not united it

It's a good choice - much better than Bayh, which I was afraid he might actually do - and obviously Hillary would have been a joke (this from someone who though he would be voting for her back at the start of the whole thing).

There are people in DC that are credible as being on a ticket based around Change - Biden is one of them.

I was already an Obama supporter-- so I fall in the majority who say selecting Biden will not change my vote.

Still I was very pleased -- because this choice is evidence to me that Obama has a high regard for intellect and experience.

For those who foolishly believe Obama is not serious about "changing" Washington because he chose a knowledgeable insider for a VP-- I say "BULLS-T!" You have to UNDERSTAND the world and current processes to make changes that are improvements.

Look at George Bush! He made changes -- they were all disastrous because they were made either
1) from IGNORANCE (such as when Dubya talked to his "Father" for his support about invading Iraq for WMD), or
2) corrupt influence from his conservative base of oil companies/other multinational corporations that wanted to get rich at the expense of the American public.

To me, picking Biden tells me Obama is even MORE serious about CHANGE-- FOR THE BETTER/BEST possible world!

I sit here reading all the comments on Obama's choice for VP. Does it really matter since the huge corporations really run this country. My bigger interest is Bill Gates efforts to try to get corpoarations thinking more about people and community instead of just the bottom line. My wife and I make decent salaries and my big concern is how to get my daughter through college without going into bankruptcy. When state colleges are 30,000 per year and educating our young is a luxury only the rich can afford. Besides how do you think politicians get rich? Must be their business savy. I am not thrilled with any of the candidates. An inexperienced elitist or an old school elitist. Either way someone has them in their pocket. Real change will come once the Chinese own 100% of America because some corporation sold it to them.

Obama can't speak without his teleprompter and Biden is a lose cannon. We're in for some pretty interesting debates. I guess Obama can't complain about Washington insiders, lobbyists and the Iraq War anymore since Biden also voted for the war. What will Obama talk about now? And wow, just wait till the infanticide scandal heats up, sending the Right Wing into a tizzy to get McCain elected. What a joke this whole thing has been.

"she didn't win and that's it."

If you are so quick to declare a winner before the Convention and before they vote, how can I trust your opinion on other topics.

Until they have a vote in the Convention, where the delegates can vote for anyone they want, it is wide open.

I know some want to know what is basically unknowable, so they count votes. But people do lie.

It really is impossible to know before they vote.

I would have answered this question the same because I decided to support Obama in November last year. Biden is a great pick. I saw him speak several times and this guy knows his stuff. He's not afraid to criticize Bush and the NeoCons either. Hooray! Did I say Biden is a great pick?

John Mccain tried to hit on my 24 year old daughter at a fund raising even in TUCSON recently .
I was ready to write a check.
Now ,no check,
No vote.
Go Obama

per jingoist: "For many of us it doesnt matter who he picks. We dont need him or his terrorist freinds, racial bigots or criminals in the White House. He has divided the nation, not united it "

So you think George Bush is really harboring bin Laden in the White House?

Most of you don't realize that it use to be the norm to pick the person who was second or close in popularity poles. Kennedy chose Johnson who detested each other, but it made a strong ticket. Reagan didn't have a lot of use for Busch, again a strong ticket. Unless your a runaway with the party nomination, you have to if you want to win. It's the reason McCain will choose Romney, The republicans know this. I'm one of those Illinois Democrats that know O'bama, and the system he was taught in. I know the corrupt Chicago machine that appoints there offspring to succeed them, like a birthright. I'm tired of Democrats who say there for the little guy while they fatten there wallets at my expense. Illinois has the most inept and corrupt government in the nation. The Illinois politicos are already getting in line for Obama appointments. The last thing this country needs are those idiots running things. This is why I have to back McCain. He is a Liberal Republican to Conservative Democrat, basically middle of the road. The best argument Obama has against McCain is that he is a continuation of Busch (thats not true) he was not a Busch fan and Busch was a conservative, different agendas.

"Given their collective penchant for plagarism, if Obama and Biden were alone in a room to take a test, after an hour do they both walk out with blank sheets of paper?"

Steve, THAT was classic! Too true. It makes you wonder who is really pulling the strings on these puppets.

McClinton trolls:

The nomination was Hillary's to lose, and SHE lost it. If you are angry with anyone, you should be angry with HER. SHE ran a lousy campaign, believing that the nomination was her right. SHE made fools of her supporters, and continues to do so.

Oh- and unlike you, McCain didn't pay me to write this.

we shall not expect perfection from politicians
when we ourselves lynching masses barking for blood. Suddenly we want change and we believe VP + P must do the dirty job for us while we lay back and watch.

From Bush Cheney to McCain/Romney ?????
that's like flushing the toilet

I'll vote for Obama/ Biden any day over that....Wake up America

What is the world coming to? I'm a registered democrat and want a democrat to be a President, but if I tell something against Barack, how come I'm a Republican? Folks, we shouldn't be prejudiced and make assumptions. Also, we need to accept that differences do exist and individuals have their opinion. If you mud sling, what exactly is the "change" that we are talking about?

If Barack supporters are going to play down everybody who supports others, be it a democrat or a republican, it is going to make the independent voters think about their decision to support Obama.

I am a long time Democrat who now realizes that there is no more Democratic Party. The current Democrats, Obama/Biden are very similar to Nixon and the Republicans back then, and the current Republicans are more like reactionaries/nazis.

However, I can not vote for the "democrats" either. Biden proved himself racist with his anti Indian-American remarks, and Obama proved himself racist with his anti Chinese-American remarks.

I also can not vote for people who keep authorizing more wars: troops in South Korea, Troops in Japan, Troops in South East Asia, Troops in Iraq, etc. That is what all three of these choices do in every military appropriations bill they vote for.

ps. I am a white American, PhD educated, male, who is married to an Asian-American.

I love Joe Biden, he is a great man and would make an effective cabinet choice. Obama has missed an historic opportunity to bring a powerful women on the ticket and make good use of Hillary's momentum and experience. Understand that the U.S. is the most ignorant country in the free world. A vast majority of our citizens refuse to educate themselves on issues of importance to this country and make all of their choices on nothing but brand names. Hillary is the most well known of brands and could have certainly delivered the much needed win for the Dems. I sadly watched this nation elect and reelect the most profoundly unqualified president who destroyed a great nation in eight years. I support Obama in this important election, however, he has squandered his choice for a running mate and, sadly, will probably be defeated in November.

SO the Democrats have chosen their Dick Cheney". Another bulldog and liar in office.

The way I see it is that Biden, should Obama win the presidential election will bring with him foreign policy experience of which Obama has none. Mr. Hussein thinks he can talk his way out of troubling situations and that is just not the case in today's world. Other countries now are much stronger than they used to be miltarily wise.

The oceans used to protect us to a big degree. That just is not the case anymore.

The democrats in Denver now have built a secret prison for protesters. Talk about afraid of losing an election and thinking they can dictate to the American people what we can and cannot do has just gotten way out of control. You cannot imprison people for protesting. That is one of our rights. But Denver thinks they can. This was on Denvers news.

And don't tell me that just because your a democrat you wouldn't care. Would you care if the police just up and walked into your house, dragged you off to a jail, and gave you no reason for doing so? without a warrant and then telling you that you have no right to an attorney? That can happen to any American now thanks to the patriot act.

What really gets me is that most Americans really take their freedom for granted. Govt. says to them oh you give up a little of this or a little of that and we will give you this. Government has NOTHING without the peoples permission. Government works on privileges, We The People need no permission nor privilege for anything we want to do, that was inherited to you the minute you were born. The only thing you had to do was grow up.

So why don't people do just that? Stop and think for yourselves instead of saying oh the government will do this or that for me. Remember, whatever the govt. gives to you is temporary and they can take it away as easily as it was given to you.

Remember too that the election is not decided by the people the popular vote is not what decides it. The electoral college is. and whoever has the most money can buy electoral votes. Money doesn't always buy happiness.

USS Biden

loose(Biden)lips, sink ships.

All these posters claiming they were thinking of voting for Obama but are now voting for McCain or someone else are 100 percent liars. Their blogging is an organized attempt by the extreme right to distort the reality of what your fellow Americans are thinking. Don't fall for the blogging tricks of the right-wing nutcases who want to give all your homes to fatcat corporate landlords!

Obama-Biden all the way!

You guys need to READ. This article does not say that he CHOSE Biden. It is only talking about what the prospective results would be IF he chose Biden. So for anyone "excited" or "disappointed" about "this choice", maybe you should wait to find out what the choice really is. Look around - the decision hasn't been made yet (as of 11:12 EST). READ.

And the meltdown continues!

NObama '08

Joe Bidden is a wonderful choice given his history of political success in fighting for the issues important to the left and for his numerous bipartisan successes over the past several years.

Bidden is a wonderful choice in every possible access.

Hmm, so much for "change" in washington... Biden was a Senator before McCain even, and began when Obama's friend Ayers was doing the b0mb threat thing.

Take away the hype and the "change to washington" and Obama becomes a puffed-up property crook, hardball politics playing, flip-flopping, questionable friend having fake who is willing to deny public funds, lie, and do whatever it takes to promote himself politically.

Obama has shamed his candidacy, he even stepped on the better candidate for his party. Choose a real leader. Choose McCain!

I don't believe the folks who are coming onto this forum stating that this VP choice sealed the deal, and that they are now Dems for McCain.

I firmly believe that they are Republicans looking to plant doubt.

The Clinton supporters will, by and large, vote along party lines, and will ensure that Hillary Clinton has the opportunity to serve in a senior leadership role. If she supports Obama's VP choice, I would assume that her supporters would, as well.

*~*~* OBAMA/BIDEN '08 *~*~*

I agree Luke -- all over the forums I'm seeing posts that are clearly being written by the McCain camp where they "pretend" to be "disappointed" Obama supporters. The hilarious thing is that they are actually COPY-PASTING their fakey comments from one news forum to the next!

voice-in-the-widerness : Let me remind you that no Supreme Court Justice will be appointed without the approval of the majority of the Senate. The Senate is democratic by majority and therefore no conservative Justice that might overturn Roe v Wade will be appointed. Stop with the scare tactics.

VOTE McCAIN 2008 and HILLARY 2012

I think Biden is a solid choice and changes the dynamics nicely for Obama. McCain could chose Condeleeza now to set up an interesting redux of Anita Hill facing Joe Biden, but I think he's better off looking for someone with deep midwest / southern experience, domestic and economic issues at the forefront and a solid working class background. Latino connections would be great for him. My cynical heart says that the republicans have no one honest like that, but the reality is they have a lot of choices. Charlie Crist brings a nice blank canvas for most of us, and Florida.

My personal preference for Obama would have been Bill Richardson - would bring an area outside of the east to the ticket, shore up Latino support (who Obama mostly already has), give him an ambassador / foreign policy cred, add personality to the ticket, and send the message to the Clintons that even their friends are with the change in the democratic party as much as anyone, i.e. that it's time to support the party's decision. But that's Monday morning quarterbacking - Biden's a fine choice and a politician I actually don't mind (forgive me for saying that).

As I said Governor Bush has screwed this country up so badly NO ONE will be able to turn it around in 4 years. This country is going to need to pull together and have patience.
Go Obama/Biden

I was hoping he would choose Biden and he did. As for an agent of change, Obama is the main agent of change and if Washington can be changed he is the one to do it. Unfortunately if we continue on the current course in this country, I believe we would become a failed state.

All the faux Dem posts "upset" at Obama's pick of Binden are amusing.

Does the RNC have a room full or paid posters or volunteer true believers scouring the net to make these ridiculous posts? Do they really think that these posts can actually improve McCain's chance of being elected?

McCain may be elected. But it will be because of the Republicans' great skill in character assassination and appeals to fear, not in addressing the crucial issues facing our nation today. If anyone out there truly believes that the lass 7 years of Bush/Cheney have been good for the USA, then by all means, vote for McCain for 4+ more years of the same.

All great nations have risen and fallen, and history will show that Bush/Cheney's cynical exploitation of 9/11 was the start of our nation's fall. The glorious experiment in democracy may be heading into that good night.

I am happy that Obama choose Joe Biden. I am from Delaware and Joe Biden has done alot of great things for his home state. I remember him coming to my highschool to speak with students, he comes to the local marinas to show support, he is involved with the beach replenishment projects, he is the right pick for the job. He is a great guy that lost his wife and daughter tragically and raised his boys well and has prevailed through adversity. When I have contacted his office to express discontent over gas prices he emails and writes back. So unusual that a politician doesn't just ignore you these days.

Biden is a Gynocrat. Don't know what this means? Look it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw

Posted by: Charles
After reading the posted comments, I think we need to establish a qualification test for voters.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

....and we have just read the typical liberal's wet dream. That is making us all live in a communist society.

My filipino group gives our utmost respect and support to Hilary - therefore we vote McCain.

Godheval,
No, YOU need to read.

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/splashone

Biden has been chosen by the Smart Democrat Messiah. And as a good kool aid drinking Dem, you are not allowed to question HIS wisdom in doing so.

Obama is a Kook. So it makes since to choose a kook to help him

Hillary supporters: she is a de facto republican and would be a better running mate for McCain. That's why women's groups wouldn't endorse her. Biden critics: yes he is an establishment democrat, but he at least he's to the left on all those pesky distracting social issues. To anyone who would now vote for McCain due to Obama's choice of Biden: well, that's just plain ignorant. And to Doug from MA, your state (and mine) is full of right wing bigots who vote democrat because they're told they're democrats by the media.

Hillary supporters --

If you indeed still support Hillary, why not LISTEN to who she says to vote for???

Or do you think she is not worthy of that?

I am hearing her say vote for Obama and Biden. Please, we don't need four more years of Bush right wing government!

With Biden's foreign policy experience, I thought he might be a good Sec of State pick. But VP is terrific. Did I say Biden is a great pick?

Great choice, a good man! Obama makes good decisions.

Great man, with experience and guts.

I agree Frank. The liberals are destroying our country and our freedoms

This is an insult and outrage to the true person of change. Hillary Clinton would have been the DREAM TEAM!!! If this is an example of how Barak Hussein Obama makes decisions, I'm voting for McCain! What a Jerk for not picking the obvious choice in Hillary!!!

Doug, i am from Mass as well. Please tell me why you feel our next president is an idiot?

Joe Biden is Obamas version of Clinon's Janet Reno-only shorter.

Do you people really want 1 party to control the house, the Senate and the WHITE HOUSE??
Either party!!!!!!
Who will keep them in check?????

Disaster in the making!! either party

"The democrats in Denver now have built a secret prison for protesters."

I hope so. The protesters at Chicago in 1968 ruined the chances of Hubert Humphrey and he lost the election by the smallest of margins. I always wonder what he might have accomplished and how it would have been different from President Nixon's terms. The left thought Nixon would bring on a revolution. Never happened, it brought on Reagan.

Biden should refuse to serve under this Marxist Obama. Obama's change is straight out of the communist manifasto. Biden I think is a decent American who should not be supporting the demise of American freedom simply for his own legacy. Obama and his supporters believe any money we earn is the governments first and if they let us keep any of it is a 'tax cut' like its some sort of gift them letting us keep the money we worked our butt off for. With all the entitlements Obama has promised there is not enough revenue to possibly pay for it. Obama said the other day that you need to make sure your kid knows spanish. It is in the democrats interest to let in hoards of 3rd worlders and then promise them the world by implementing policies to tax American workers into oblivion.

Boy, this Obama thing gets worse every day!
I can't think of a worse sarcastic commie, Gun grabbing jerk than Biden.
I can't wait till McCain makes them cry like little babies on Election day.

Bravo Senator Obama on an outstanding choice! Those who decry the senator's choice for running mate were not about to vote for him anyway, therefore look at the truly independent minded individuals who this elections rest with anyway to see the impact. You will likely discover they view Senator Biden at the very least with confidence that he can assume office should he need to, and knows his way around Washington to get things done. Now carry on you partisan peddlers with your biased commentary.

John Mccain made a pass at my 24 year old daughter at A RALLY HERE IN ARIZONA ???
HELLO, HELLO...ANYBODY AWAKE......
John Edwards was crucified for almost the same thing.
I have been voting Republican for over 35 years.
GET OVER IT, GET OVER BIDEN.....
MCCRAZY, MC LECHER , MCNUTS....
I AM VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS AND BARACH.
I HAVE NOW CHANGED MY REGISTRATION TO DEM.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU DEMOCRATS ????

Oh darn since Hillary didn't get the spot now I'll have to vote for the ole bald wrinkly guy

Does any one know which of Sen. Mcmansions homes he was actually in when he recieved the news of Obamas Veep pick. lol. Was he getting his massage from Cindy Mcmegabucks.Oh that's right she sprained her hand while spending $50,000 on stuff for their 8 Mansions. I know how many houses i own and i don't have to ask my staff. I guess he was to busy putting country first to count.As for the Hillary crowd stop whining and get on the train or shut the !@#$ up you lost. The one thing people hate more than a loser is a whiner and Mcain is Both.

I think this is a smart choice. Yeah, Biden is an inside guy, but his knowledge of foreign affairs is impressive and he is not afraid to talk a little tough. Can't wait to see the Vice Pres. debates with Biden and whatever empty suit McSame picks to be his running mate.

You people scare me. All I hear is the word "change", be careful what you wish for. I will vote for McCain in November because he is unfortunately the best of a bad bunch. I once considered myself a Democrat, but most all of the party now is a bunch of kooks. We can't let Obama get elected, we need someone that will at least be a counterweight to this crazy bunch in congress. Wake up people before it's too late!

Jack b Nimble-
LOL what have the conservatives done for us lately? Have you not listened to the news since 2001?????

Yes, he may be old school, but Biden failed his R.O.T.C. course, proving he's no expert in the military so you don't have to worry about him being beholden to the military-industrial complex, he's fought to protect Delaware credit card company's rights, proving he's pro-big business as long as they are contributing to his reelection so he's a pragmatist, and then there's the plagiarism thing both in law school and in the senate, proving he believes in collectivism. He even said he was in the top half of his graduating class when he was in fact near the bottom.

This demonstrates his willingness to dissemble for political gain.

So don't worry, Shaun, Biden may help Obama after all.

Posted by: Christoph | August 23, 2008 11:04 AM

I love it......Hillary, where are you....

His choice for Biden puts me in the 13%. I've admired Biden for years and think this exactly the right decision by Obama.

I think this is a smart choice. Yeah, Biden is an inside guy, but his knowledge of foreign affairs is impressive and he is not afraid to talk a little tough. Can't wait to see the Vice Pres. debates with Biden and whatever empty suit McSame picks to be his running mate.

to Anne:

How do you figure, after 3 terms in the house and beginning a second Senate term (not to mention earlier assistance with his father's ambassadorial duties), that JFK was a Washington outsider? Of course the Obama campaign would like for you to think Kennedy was as inexperienced as this year's presumptive and presumptuous nominee. If you wish to participate in myhtmaking, at least understand and evaluate the comparisons you're being fed.

Old school Elitist meet new school elitist. You guys still think there's a difference?

Times can change. So can opinions. But until something better comes along, I’m writing in Obama/Bigfoot for President and Veep.

This is a desperation pick. Either he is trying to make up for his mind-blowing lack of experience and knowledge or no one else would take the #2 spot. Either way, this is an open invitation to McCain to pick virtually anyone for his veep without losing ground to Obama.

Obama's mix of inexperience and arrogance never ceases to provide fodder for McCain. Obama's fortunate that McCain's limited his budget to public financing because they are going to have unlimited footage of Obama and Biden gaffes to play with.

This blog has been spammed to hell. its just as meaningless as the WAPO poll.

Newest American game: Step on The News from Obama, Any News.

Beware Democrats. Republicans tell lies. Many of the posts you will see on this site are from McCain supporters pretending to be Hillary fanatics.

Even this article says: 72% of Hillary supporters are with Barack and the Democratic party (with Biden probably 82%). So then why are there so many posts in this forum from "Hillary" supporters? Hmmmm.... they are likely lying to sway your opinion.

Be careful. Believe your friends and fanily, not these schmucks.
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By the way Biden is a great pick.

Obama and Biden in 2008.

The difference between Obama supporters and Hillary supporters:

Hillary supporters researched the issues and compared the ability and chose Hillary.

Obama supporters went to a speech and were put under a spell but can not tell anyone what Obama stands for other than "hope" and "change". Therefore if Obama lost the primary he would be able to tell his supporters how and who to vote for and expect them to follow.

Hillary supporters think for themselves and will not follow the words of Hillary when everyone knows she is the democratic party and will say what she is suppose to say. We the voters that chose to vote for her will now vote McCain as the only option since Obama ran a sexist and race baiting campaign to get where he is and knows nothing about how to run anything. No one should be willing to reward his sexist and race baiting behavior with a vote.

VOTE McCAIN 2008 and HILLARY 2012

i think obama/biden4change is a great ticket; my hope is those 75% will change their minds when they hear sen. biden speak and bring "truth-to-power" to the schmidt/rove/mccain shell game to bamboozle the american electorate once again. NOT THIS TIME!

How did he pick Biden? Hillary Clinton would have been a better choice, now he'll most likely lose the election.

Biden is a good choice. To all the Hillary supporters who will vote for McCain or stay home, I hope you don't have daughters as their lives will suffer as a result. Please take a look at McCain's record on choice, on equal rights, on equal pay, and then start working on your speech to your child explaining why you voted against those things on "principle".

Leave it to the "change candidate" to pick the old white guy who practically lived in Washington for the last 30 years.

McCain is much more a maverick than this guy.

Biden rated an F by the NRA. Keep your hands off my guns Joe. And keep your hands off my wallet Obama. We don't need you clowns

Brilliant! Christoph....

"Yes, he may be old school, but Biden failed his R.O.T.C. course, proving he's no expert in the military so you don't have to worry about him being beholden to the military-industrial complex, he's fought to protect Delaware credit card company's rights, proving he's pro-big business as long as they are contributing to his reelection so he's a pragmatist, and then there's the plagiarism thing both in law school and in the senate, proving he believes in collectivism. He even said he was in the top half of his graduating class when he was in fact near the bottom.

This demonstrates his willingness to dissemble for political gain.

So don't worry, Shaun, Biden may help Obama after all.

Posted by: Christoph | August 23, 2008 11:04 AM

I love it......Hillary, where are you....

"Beware Democrats. Republicans tell lies."

As opposed to Bill Clinton? Honest ABe he was not!

I think Biden is a great choice! Whoever says they will not vote for Obama/Biden because Clinton isn't on the ticket is a COWARD! Seriously GROW UP..! Go ahead and vote for McCain! Remember its not about YOU! Its about the well being of this country! I also think that McCain has no choice but to pick Romney now..

It seems very odd to me that by Obama balancing his ticket shows that he's not about change. If he picked someone with less experience it would have been a disaster. He could have done much worse than Biden, regardless of his history. True, Biden has said and done some things that weren't all that bright, what if everyone peeked in your closet for things that you've done? How would you look? Biden has decades of foreign policy experience that is very well respected on both sides of the aisle and I cannot think but that this pick for VP was a considered, well thought out choice.
To all those who are moaning and groaning over this pick and threatening to vote Republican, do you really think that McCain can do any better for his VP? All of his choices are bad (The Millionaire Mormom, The Millionaire Moron, and The Millionaire's Millionaire) to go along with The Millionaire Songbird who can't even remember how many homes he owns.

...and we have just read the typical liberal's wet dream. That is making us all live in a communist society.

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Can you even define communism? I doubt you can. This country has a constitution, and this constitution defines our system of government. And it certainly is not communistic, regardless of who is sitting in the Oval Office.

Do some reading and educate yourself.

Have all of you Hillary supporters for McCain thought about the fact that the there will probably be 2 new justices appointed to the Supreme Court in the next presidential term, at least one of those will be replacing one of the more liberal justices on the Court? If you think you'll just wait until 2012 to elect Hillary, it would be pointless. By then, we'll have two more Scalia-clones. Our civil liberties and reproductive rights will be gone, the environment will have been handed over to the oil and mining industries, and she'll be powerless to do anything. Supreme Court appointments are for life, as are all of the district and appellate court judges that the next president will appoint. Think about that when you are voting for the person who will be choosing the next justices who will really be the ones deciding the country's future.

Also, the impact of Biden won't be known for several months. He strengthens Obama in Pen. and Iowa and Minnesota and Colorado.

Not too mention, Biden is not a puppy dog. He won't put up with McCain mudlslinging crapola.

the vice president hasn't actually ever done anything with the exception of cheney. so, i'm assuming none of this matters.

Do any of you Obama-ites actually earn incomes in the highest tax bracket or do you all work at Starbucks and Walmart? To think of the additional millions of dollars I'll have to pay in new taxes (that's right, I said millions in TAXES) with Obama's plans---should he become POTUS--is enough to make me want to lay off several thousand of my employees and relocate my companies to offshore "tax advantageous" countries. I hope you all realize--before you vote--that even if McCain is not the ideal candidate, he will not negatively impact the economy as much as Mr. O will.

Ralph Nader--remember him? He and his supporters are the reason Bush was elected. I wish all the Hillary people would grow up and remember why they call themselves Democrats.

Well, you are right...
The Republicans under Bush HAVE DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY...
But I still hate liberals.....

Oh, I forgot.

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My only real concern is we not end up with McBush as president..Joe has experience (that can cut both ways) and the last Yankee democrat to get elected had the good sense to pick a southerner for vp. I will the ticket well and I support it.

Lets go NADER!

John, Obama wants to nationalize health care, energy, and housing. This is pure communism folks.

Please vote for mccain otherwise the late night show would be boring....we want to have fun with a stupid president again...

John,

You can be a communist while living in a Constitutional Republic. The law of the land does not change your personal beliefs and the "change" that you would be working towards.

You need to educate YOURSELF.

Brian wrote - If you truly think Biden will overturn any of the "change" that Obama wants to bring, then you don't really have any respect for Obama's intelligence and his message and you shouldn't have voted for him in the primary.

Well, Brian you are right. I have no respect for Obama, his lack of intelligence and experience or his second coming hype that his mindless cult followers seem to drink down like kool-aid at a Jonestown community meeting.

The New (O)Bama-(B)iden Ticket Commercial.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=o.b.+tampon&hl=en&emb=0#

A great choice! Biden is a man of taste, judgment, and a sense of history, and America should be proud to have him run for this august office.

Hey Chris Stewart, look in the mirror!
And Dems aren't liars??????
I'm not even a Republican and can attest to that.Biden's a jerk

This to Joe:

You dummy, then vote for McCain. You would have voted for Hillary, or Obama/Hillary, but not Obama/Biden...

Idiotic mad people like you need to grow the hell up....

Excellent ticket. I would've voted for Obama anyway, though with feelings of trepidation. Biden was a wise choice. Maybe there's hope yet!

My opinion of Joe Biden was made when Clarence Thomas was up for appointment to the Supreme Court. Anita Hill told the truth on him and had witness waiting in hotels in Washington to conferm her story about that so-and-so. Biden headed the hearings and refused Anita Hill the right to have her witnesses come before his committee and tell the TRUTH about Thomas' actions towards her. I didn't like Biden from that moment on and I still don't. Bad choice Obama!

As a staunchly conservative Republican, I have many problems with McCain's record. Add in Romney (a cult member and not a TRUE Christian) and I'm looking forward to pulling the lever for Barack Obama.

These graphs are unreliable. How many of those people actually know who Biden is when they took that survey? Only after Biden is introduced to the public will we know for sure what his impact is.

no to Hillary means I vote for Obama!

It is sad to see the posts from "supposed" Hillary supporters who claim that they will now vote for McCain. These are obviously planted by McCain supporters! Anyone who actually supported Hillary would know that Obama more closely represents their views and that they would be dishonoring Hillary if they wasted their vote on McCain out of spite.

Patriotism is NOT about flag pins. (For the record, of course Sen. Obama salutes the flag, leads/says the Pledge of Allegiance, and sometimes wears a flag pin). But this obsession with symbols over reality is what got us the Bush years. Patriotism involves THINKING, sacrifice, choosing the best path for this precious country...for Pete's sake, haven't we had enough macho posturing?

Joe Biden, in 2006: "In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

Change. Whatever. McCain just has to sit back and let Biden open his mouth.

WELL, look what I dided with the securities and the mortagegs...
someone had to bale out the big boys, right.
I have mortgaged your grandchildrens, grandchildrens future...
I have added trillions to the national debt, trillions, ain't they the prehistoric little bug like critters, well, I'm proud , I dood it, I dood it good....
YUUK YUUUK YUUUUUUUKKKKKK

"hope" and "change"

After watching this empty suit choose a less qualified man over the most qualified candidate that happens to be female, I "hope" the majority of democrats will "change" to independent and vote McCain for the sake of rebuilding the democratic party after Obama becomes another "also ran" like his backers Gore, Edwards, Kerry, Kennedy....

"He and his supporters are the reason Bush was elected."

Yeah right. You keep telling yourself that.It was all us...

Anita Hill was a hack and Clarence Tomas is one of the finest Americans to have served on the Supreme Court. Obama will be nominating fellow commies like Ginsburg to the court if elected

I would/will vote for the democratic ticket. McCain has transformed into a Bush clone. Besides that, I don't think he is too bright and is in the pocket of the neocons.

We don't need another belligerent white guy to pick our pockets and send our kids to war!

"Add in Romney (a cult member and not a TRUE Christian)"

The country hasn't come that far since questioning Kennedy's religion after all. So much for separation of church and state.

Obama did not help himself with the selection of Biden. Sen. Biden, who is by all counts intelligent and knowledgeable, often come off as floaty and arrogant. The more exposure people have to Sen.Biden may actually work against Obama who has been accused of the same.

LOL @ "Penn Voter"...your high school edumacation is swowing through again!! Enjoy your factory job!!

I don't get it. How do you think Obama will achieve change without someone on board who knows how to work Congress? Obama HAD to pick someone like Biden to have a chance at change.

When McCain nominates a female VP, the Obama camp will be crushed.

I think Senator Obama made a safe choice. He picked someone who filled in the gaps on his own resume. Having worked for a U.S. Senator, it's been my experience that these guys (and gals) don't like to have their ego's diminished. Admitting that he needed someone with more experience in foreign affairs shows that he is self-aware and is open to listening to other people. That's something that our current President and Vice President have shown a reluctance to do. Congratulations to Senator Biden!

Should Hillary supporters believe she will get through the Democratic primary in 2012 if she costs us four years of McCain (i.e. the reversal of Roe v Wade, the reinstitution of the draft, increased deficit, and whatever else the warmonger has in store for us) you have another thing coming. The majority of the Democratic party will be supporting the anybody but Hillary candidate.

I think Mr. Obama will sleep a lot better knowing he's not the only thing between Hillary and the White House.

Godheval,

Did you turn on your TV this morning? It is plastered all over the News networks!

Sheesh!

Obama/Richardson would have been strong. This ticket will be have a hard time gaining traction.

Let's see ... McCain's "straight talk" referring to "gooks" and his share of gaffs ... and Hillary's inability to run a super-funded campaign that actually has the temerity to "hang in there and never quit" based on the possibility/gaff that Obama may get assassinated like "... look what happened to RFK ..." ... these would make better choices than Joe Biden? ... apples to apples I'd take the Obama-Biden ticket any day of the week ... and I'm a huge Reagan-Republican ... i.e., I like to think I am objective and not blindly fanatical like those that blow themselves up on the streets of Baghdad or on the US political landscape ... please use your head and basic logic ... we've had eight years of idiocy due to those that came out of the woodwork because of the Rove emotional stimulus ... do we really want to go down that path again?

It is my experience (as a speaker) that it takes personal conviction & deep knowledge of a topic to speak freely about it. Obama & Biden are great speakers because they have conviction & integrity. The whole ROVE Locker Room politics team are experts at attacking charachter of others, and have contrived this whole "celebrity" argument to sway the feeble minds of ditto heads. McCain could never deliver a speech of any caliber without a teleprompter because he a is a lying #%* & can't remember anything. MG, anyone that is posting comments on this site has access to world's biggest library ... starting reading between the lines ! (party lines)

ANYBODY who wants McCain, after the eight years we've had, are ABSOLUTE idiots....

And if McCain wins, all you dummies will hate him with 12 months of his presidency.

nice...........
a marxist and a plagerizer....

"We don't need another belligerent white guy"

If this comment was the other way around you would be crying racism. Obamas supporters think him beling black qualifies him for the job. Thats how he got to be editor of the harvard law review. He did not write any articles, he was simply a white spoken black person so got the affirmitive action position.

Truth Seeker -

Too true! The Clinton's do have a habid of leaving a trail of bodies.

All you have to do is read the McCain campaign's press release to see that Biden is a good choice as VP. All McCain has as a criticism is Obama is inexperienced especially in "Foreign Affairs."
He can't say that about the ticket, except now he'll revert to RNC form and lie as he does about the tax policy of Obama.
Soon, he'll the liar Corsi working directly for the campaign.

What I find so hilarious is that after Obama voted for FISA and declared all options on the table for Iran, is that people still think Obama will change anything. I find that the only common unifying factor that Obama supporters have now is that they all want to tax the rich. It's so strange to see a culture so consumed with envy like this. The democrats have sold us out the past two years, and their leader gives us empty rhetoric. Vote Libertarian if you actually care about Civil Liberties, and people centered approaches to our nations problems.

Zestfully Clean!

Biden is a nice, clean and articulate choice for VP.

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

To the moron who is still spreading lies about Obama's refusal to salute the flag or some such nonsense, see below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIyBwkuqF4E

I feel much more comfortable with the presidential nominees that we have to select from. Considering the media drove them into our living rooms we were forced to choose from 2 power hungry politicians. I am though more comfortable with Barack Obama and Joseph Biden than I would ever be with McCain. There is no possible way that McCain would do anything positive for our country. I hope that America recognizes the consequences of voting for McCain (another warmonger).

Obama-Biden need to go on the OFFENSE against McCain's famous flip-flops, pandering and contradictions. They also need to point out the moral failings of McCain when he cheated on a sick wife. Why are Democrats not talking about these things and going all out? Obama has sometimes been a O'Bambi and played defense with nuances galore. That will only give 8 more years of Dubya. It's time to throw a good fight.

This choice is supposed to provide party unity? Disenfranchising Hillary's 18 million voters is anything but unity. Listening to our voices would have been unity and shown compromise, healing, a new kind of politics, and everything that is claimed with words by Obama but not done with actions. The unity being dictated by The One to Hillary's voters speaks volumes about whether he cares about our voices and our votes, and we have a choice. Stay home in 2008 and Hillary in 2012!

Thise looks like the American Socialist ticket, not the Democratic ticket.

People who will be voting for McCain because someone called Obama arrogant are dangerously confused about what has happened over the past 8 years. We Americans are losing the very fabric of what makes this country great: out freedoms.

Consider this, at the beginning of the Bush presidency, by virtue of nothing more than being a citizen, you were presumed to be innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers. Today, one man can silently label you an enemy of the state for any reason and put you in a secret prison on foreign soil without breaking the law.

The Republican party has deeply corrupted many of our institutions over the last eight years, and this will only continue under a President McCain. His advisers are the same republican corporate lobbyists behind Bush.

At this time, our energy policy is literally being written by energy corporations, our phone, web, and email communications are being recorded by telecom corporations, and our military is being used to secure assets for the oil industry.

Our country is at risk, and true patriots will vote for Barack Obama.

It's funny how everyone is so hurt over Obama's "choice". Come on people, like what the person a couple comments before me said.. "He was damned if he did, or damned if he diddnt." Everyone talks about change, "where's the change"? But really how is him picking a vice president going to change that? Out of all the choices they all seemed pretty much the same. Each had there pro's and con's.

Take your biases out of the park, and keep your eyes on the game.

Trust in Obama to make the right choices with the information that he has at hand.

Flipping a coin would have more impact...

Excellent pick or not when it's all said and done, this pair will be a lot better than the Bush/Cheney ordeal for sure.

Biden is the obvious choice. He's "articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."

It makes no difference...The race is on!

im voting for McCain becaus he will definetly improve things like tax breaks for my dad who spent a lot of money sending me to a relaly good college (not to brag, but its in the ivy league), and all of my friends are also voting for McCain.. we're all die hard republicans and any upstandeing american citizen would obviousely vote for McCain over obama, more like O-BOMBER hahaha.

p.s. obama supporters are un american i saw the campain ad saying how obama is frends with that guy who is a felon and didnt believe that flight 93 crashed in 9/11 it's pretty obvious from the stuff the mccain campain is releasing that obama is actually kind of un american, so choke on that you dirty dems.

REPUBLICEN TILL THE DAY I DIE SUCKAS!

Obama for Change???

here's your change -
Increase taxes, then create new entitlement programs for people who lack initiative,give health insurance to everyone and destroy the quality of the American health care system, weaken our defense.

Sounds GREAT

Big yawn for Biden pick. The better choice would have been either Jim Webb or Chuck Hagel.

I'm so happy that the party of nationalist SOCIALISTS, soviet SOCIALISTS, peoples SOCIALISTS, JIM CROW and SLAVERY is going to go down this election. It was yours to win, and you threw it away on an inexperienced empty suit who picked a very experienced empty suit to back him up.

We're too smart to fall for this Republican hate-mongering again, aren't we?

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There will be change, but only in the person physically at the top. Don't be fooled into thinking anything will really change, regardless if a Republican or Democrat wins. You all forget that we are a Republic and not a Democracy. The wealthy few will continue to line their pockets in the name of (or at the expense of) the people and the usual horse trading will continue to get things done. Once elected, the candidates will forget about you, so why all the passion? It's really for naught. If you want a real change, how about directing this political passion into doing something nice for someone or smiling and greeting that stranger next to you on the metro? That's real change.

love biden would have voted for him if he had stayed in the race,,,still won't vote for mr. attitude and wife attitude.
would have voted for hillary, since i don't care how her husband gets his kicks and he would have made a great secretary of state..so long ooh long how long ya gonna be gone.

Obama's stated aims were (1) someone who added governing value, and (2) someone who would stand up to him with honest opinions. Biden fits the criteria. He adds much more to the ticket than detracts.

Biden is a great politician. He's demonstrated many times how capable he is at talking out of both sides of his mouth, often on the same issue! However, he is a hypocrite---he is Roman Catholic and is "pro-choice"! Regardless of what many people, even other Roman Catholics, want to think, those two positions are absolutely incompatible. So if he is unprincipled on the basic tenets of his faith, what will he be like as Vice-President? But then, I guess being a politician by definition, means you have no principles anyway.

Ebony and Ivory.
Like a concert grand piano.
Will make beautiful music together

Obama; Candidate for change.

When he's done taxing you, all you'll have left is change!

When The Obama picked Biden as a running mate, it was an admission that his pitifully thin resume needed additional padding.

But since the position of Vice President is essentially ceremonial in nature, who among you suddenly and honestly feel MORE CONFIDENT about Barry's leadership capabilities regarding international and domestic issues?

As a McCain supporter, let me just add my thoughts:

Thank you God and I apologize for my brief foray into agnosticism.

this sucks.

here we have a candidate who didn't feel driven to validate 18 million voters and make the election a democratic landslide.

now democrats have to do astronomically more work than they would have had with the OBAMA-ClINTON ticket.

great. what a bummer.

maybe we should have a system where the nominee who gets the 2nd amt of votes automatically gets the VP that way the country is not subject to cronyism and insider dealings.

maybe they should let us decide what is SUPPOSED to be our decision.

well, after a long fought battle for the nomination, we have an even bigger battle for the presidency.

they could have made it easy, so what drove them to try and make it hard for us to win this election.....

this is a buuuuuummmmer.

Liberals are scary.

Posted by: John
Can you even define communism? I doubt you can. This country has a constitution, and this constitution defines our system of government. And it certainly is not communistic, regardless of who is sitting in the Oval Office.
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Liberals have no use for the Constitution. This is why liberal judges legislate from the bench. This is why liberals appoint liberal judges. Liberals can't pass the socialist/Marxist laws they want so they bypass the legislative branch altogether. Get a grip on reality and quit defending the indefensible. Liberals are socialists at best and Marxists at worst. Liberals would love to restrict voting to only those individuals that agree with their ideology. The post I responded to proves it.

If you are not better off than you were 8 years ago, look at your own actions. Work, get paid, don't work, vote for Obama but don't expect anything different. He cannot even take care of his blood brothers.

Socialism gives all the power to the people at the top, who have poilitical connections and the common person has none. Of course the democratic beggars who have their hand out wanting my money will vote for that.

Rosie, you've got it right! Thanks for the great post!

Hey - REPUBLICEN TILL THE DAY I DIE SUCKAS!

don't they teach you how to spell in the Ivy league

Time to wake up and be real

Hey Rev, Barney Frank is awesome I agree, but this is the real world. A black man and a gay man --with scandals in his past, I am from MA and remember-- that's too much for this intolerant country. Maybe someday.

As for you so-called Hilary supporters voting for McCain...what is WRONG with you people? Don't be "Stuck on stupid!" If McCain wins because of you guys than be prepared to live with a continuation of rich-white-man policies that stick it to the working class in favor of big govt. sponsored so-called private monopolies in big oil, pharma and insurance and let the religious whackos demand big govt. laws on your personal life and private rights.

Not too mention a foreign policy based on thick-necked bully tactics and eroding your rights all in the name of protecting you.

You can't have your Mommy, so now you want big Daddy. Typical. There never was any difference between hardcore Repubs and Dems anyway. This just proves it.

As for me, I vote Pragmatist. Go Obama/Biden. Biden is a GREAT choice. I love that guy and he almost had my vote for prez. Two smart guys in the white house who have a history of standing up for the little guy...Hellsyeah!

snickerdoodle sez "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU DEMOCRATS ????"

Y'know, I've been wondering the same thing for the past fifty years!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/23/joebiden.barackobama
The 65-year-old's appointment as vice-presidential nominee has knocked Obama's popularity, according to bookmakers.

Following the latest polling data, the bookies have lengthened Obama's odds on replacing George Bush from 4/9 to 1/2. McCain has been shortened to 6/4 from 7/4.

"It is not looking as good it was for Obama," the Ladbrokes spokesman Robin Hutchison said.

It truly is amazing to see so many people shocked at what was obvious from the beginning. Obama is a complete corporate media creation who was unheard of until the media made him a "rockstar". Its been clear for years that the media elites are all for keeping the status quo, therefore any candidate they create and agressively market should be rejected out of hand. I will always be amazed at how easily democrats are scammed and fall for the republican bait & switch over and over again. It was pure insanity in a year when the country literally cant afford to keep the status quo, to choose ANY nominee with a handicap going in. Now that the bed has been made and defeat is staring em all in the face......let the handwringing begin!!! Welcome to neocon AmeriKa.

Lots of haters on these boards. Too bad few of you seem to be able to find it in your souls to respect your fellow Americans.

What's wrong with this country ISN'T the politics. It's reactionary, extremist, shallow voters who are so lacking in character and personality that their entire identity is tied up in a single ideology.

Right-wing nuts and Hillary dead-enders (one in the same, actually) have NO GROUNDS to be criticizing the dedication of Obama supporters. You guys make GWB look like a Rhodes Scholar.

Message to all Dems.....

Don't vote for McCain. Click on "Write in Vote" and type in Hillary Clinton on Election Day.

Just Do It.....send the message to Dean, Peloski, Kerry and the entire DNC.

Mr. Not an American Citizen should never be President.

I supported Hillary. Voting for McCain because there is no Hillary on the ticket or because we do not like Obama's VP is like cutting your nose to spite yourself. You can be sure that it will not be McCain alone in the White House. It will be the entire right-wing mafia that will reside with him - the same mafia that has maligned decorated veteran like Kerry and Max Cleland and glorified draft dodgers like Cheney and Bush. At least the mafia leaves the family and god out of their vendettas. Not so for the current occupants of the White House. Do you want the criminals who hide under the “executive privilege” to rule the country again through McCain.?

It amazes me that, after 8 years of complete Republican incompetence and bad policies at every level, there are still many people supporting them. Open your eyes people. Our country is a mess, and it's the result of Republicans deregulating energy trading, spending our money like drunken sailors, keeping interest rates too low, which weakened the dollar, and endless war against a non-enemy that posed zero threat to us. The Republicans have sold out to lobbyists. Their policies favor big corporations that pay nothing in taxes, like Haliburton (headquartered in Dubai). Their answer to the energy crisis is more drilling rights for Big Oil at a time when they aren't using 93 MILLION acres they have rights to drill on now. It's time to convert to renewable energies like Democrats have been saying for YEARS. It's time to withdraw from Iraq like Democrats have been saying for YEARS. No more cowboy diplomacy which only pushes the rest of the world to hate us and drives recruitment to Al Qaeda. It's time to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and create American jobs. OBAMA, BIDEN '08!!!

For a Nation that was ready to elect anyone but a Republican, with polls equalyy diided now, don't you think the Obama kumbanya is over. The democratic Party should realize that and in the convention get Hillary back as the candidate. That is the CHANGE we need.

Delegates NOBAMA is not the right choice for an esay election win in November.

You still have a chance to DUMP him, before is TOO LATE!

Romney is not a TRUE Christian!! His cult will lead to the Rapture if we elect him!!

The majority of posters above don't even realize they are the victims, still electing the wrong people into office, people who are merely puppets fueled by the interest groups,and the million and the billionaires behind the scenes running the show.

You're not electing a democrat or a republican, you're electing individuals, all millionaires by the way, whose "need for greed" outweighs protecting and sustaing a prosperous America for us, our children and future Americans.

We (Americans) lose out. We're losing our patriotic unity. We're losing our american brotherhood and sisterhood to pennies on the dollar thanks to "World interest" and not American interest.

Barack Obama is not about "Change", it's rhetoric. He's a savvy politician that knew how to kick off his opponents in his senate run, running unopposed. What kind of change is that...that is politics as usual. I could go on and on about his "change", but if voters are too lazy to research this themselves, then it is no wonder the "elite" millionaires, will forever hold control.

Throughout history, its always been the rich vs. poor, and to this very day it has not changed, even in America. So my friends, if you really think its about ideology of how they can better uplift the masses, think again. It's more like how can they uplift themselves, and it all comes back to the mighty dollar.

I'm an American, not a democrat and not a republican, but an American who wants to see the survival of a prosperous country, where the middle class can survive and remain the backbone of America, which is on the decline. It is sad for this New Yorker to see a "family of 3" my family of three, just making the 6 figure mark and still living paycheck to paycheck.

Let Obama pick a do-nothing insider. I think it simply doesn't matter anymore.

I am an agnostic, so I not a bible clinging American...Obama, and I don't own a gun yet. But let me tell you, the rate our real estate taxes are growing out of proportion, and families leaving their homes, by force, because the "elitist" politicians, could care less how much they tax us, then there will be a lot more gun clinging Americans...Obama, tryiing to simply keep what is rightfully theirs, their land and homes. Owning a home, should not be for the rich, but as of late, more people are losing their homes because they are like you and me, middle-class or less.

You all bicker about who is better for America, The millionaire vs. the millionaire. Gimme a break!

OBAMA FOR VP!

Its pretty much impossible to a) choose a candidate that has "experience" without being part of the DC machine, and b) that would never be perceived by the US public as elitist. It doesn't just take "hope" or "change" to win a campaign (duh). It takes lots of money, partly from donations, and partly from the candidate's own pocket. Last time I checked, all the guys (and girl) running made 6 figures plus, and I welcome you to try and convince me that all of them were humble pie/guy next door compared to Obama. That's (kind of) the biggest issue most Americans have with American politics. It's not, nor has it ever been, of the people. So chill and let the ivy league lawyer and the annapolis vet with 7 houses duke it out over inflation.

Unfortuntately, this once strong country has been turned into the kind of country our "leaders" profess to hate....and they are the ones who are responsible for that change. And due to the idiots who are voting for McCain because Hil didn't get in means there is no turning back. If Hil had gotten in, it would have been because of racism. She didn't get in, so it's because of sexism. It's a lose-lose propostition that has been reinforced by...GW and the boys. And unfortunately, there ARE enough racists around to make sure it doesn't happen.

Thanks to Georgie and his band of reckless idiots who have trashed this once great nation we now live under an autocrat...and the fact that people still want another old white man "leading" this country proves they STILL DON'T GET IT is sad indeed.

8 years of burying this country. And more to come. Like Rome, we are about to fall. Really

It's important to focus on the future of our country, now. Obama and Biden need to come out like pit bulls and attack Republican philosophy that government is too inept to provide public financing for roads, schools, hospitals, worker and environmental protection, Social Security and Medicare--in short they'll let the robber barons return in Victorian style. McCain will bring a more belligerent foreign policy approach than Bush and isolate our country from the world community even more. For the Democrates who want to jump ship and vote for McCain, you better be careful what you wish for.

I would have preferred Hillary, but the pretend Democrats writing in to vow they are now going to vote for McCain are laughable. What planet are they on?

Hi, Just to let everyone know that Today ; for only the reason of ; Biden -- being -- the presumptive Democratic (see I must be a true Democrat because I didn't spell Dems...well you know) -- I have decided not to do the thing I was saying I was going to do before...instead!

I AN VUTINg F0r McCain

Hail Satan!

Weak pick, weak candidate.

Biden just seems boring to me as many others feel too. I would have rather seen a fresh face than Bidens same ole same ole politics as usual.

I probably won't vote now. Obama needed Indiana--kiss it good BAYH now!!!

Nobody loves to hear Joe Biden speak more than Joe Biden.

'Have been increasingly "disenchanted" with and by Obama -- Biden is an improvement IMO. I think Joe Biden is (probably) the most qualified of ALL the contenders, repugs and demons, to be president. If something happens to Obama, Biden will never miss a beat on his way to the Oval Office seat.

Greatest choice....... Not surprising... Wise choice ... That change my mind... I'm Hillary supporter... but now I can relax and vote for OBAMA and BIDEN ticket.... Mc Cain is a big loser.... Democratic for economic, more job inside US, no more spent stupid money for war and spent too much 1.3 trillion dollars????? no more ignore global warming... I hope Hillary and Gore will be in Obama cabinet...

Win to Washington 08. Good luck.

This no-impact pick by Obama opens the door for McCain to change the course of the race with a better strategic pick. Biden will not help or hurt Obama, but a wise McCain pick should certainly help the GOP.

BTW, this cliche that "McCain is Bush" is like saying "Obama is Jesse Jackson". Get over it!

When Obama said he would pick someone who would disagree with him and challenge is thinking, I assumed Biden was out. His pick of Biden confirms my suspicions that when Obama talks about reaching across the aisle, he is talking about a very narrow aisle.

Have you seen the new attack Repub ad....Mccain is so silly with his McFoolish ad. Is he still in grammar school?? You'd think when you watched it that he was mad because he wanted to select BIDEN as his running mate....Go ahead John, you can still choose Lieberman or mormonMitt or huckleberry Huckabee or keep Cheney to show your true puppet status as a McBush....We now have our wrinkly old white-haired guy on the ticket to run against your wrinkly old white-haired guy....Gotta luv it....Let the campaign begin! ....It's time to put OBAMA to work for all America!...OBAMA / BIDEN '08 ......Let's get it on!

obama biden = osama bin laden this sound a little too familiar, they rhythm well, i dont know much about politic, would some1 please tell me if there is an hidden message in name picking.

Biden, big mistake, he does nothing for me. The obvious choice was Gen. Wesley Clark. That would have been the wisest selection. Military clout, Biden is just the samo-samo Washington BS.

Assuming that "society" is collective (no pun intended), you can only be living in a "communist society" if you're living under a communist system of government. Broadly speaking, communism means the collective, i.e., government, ownership of the means of production. And that's certainly not the case in the USA.

Obama hasn't said anything AT ALL about nationalizing energy and housing. As for a national health care system, I don't see what's wrong with that. We're the only major industrialized nation that doesn't have a national health service. We spend more for health care than any nation on the planet and the overall quality of our collective care is way down on the list.

And, yes, people can have personal beliefs regarding a particular system of government while living in a nation that has a different system of government, e.g., a communist living in the USA. But beliefs are all they are, NOT an actual system of government. My personal beliefs do not affect our nation's system of government one way or another; it is what it is.

Or how about a a fascist plutocracy?

Goodbye, I'm out of here.

This poll and the timing of the headline is disappointing. The poll was of registered voters, not undecideds. The majority off voters have already decided, so the VP ticket is unlikely to change their decision (displayed by the 75% no change here). It's the undecideds whom it might impact. Saying that it won't shake up the horse-race is simply untrue, considering that the margin is close enough now that the undecideds will decide the election.

GO GUYS GO! we need to fix so much... BTW, us liberals just want clean air, healthy food, education, and no wars-for-fun-and-profit. i contend folks bashing 'liberals' have just been suckin too much pollution and not using their noggin for critical thinking.

This is my first year being able to vote in an election and I am very pleased to be able to have Obama as an option. Additionally, I feel that Biden will make a good running mate, he has experience and he is well qualified. While at times he may same some silly things, we must keep in mind that no one is perfect, even our leaders. Also, if we really want to help our world's reputation and fix this Iraq situation, Biden is the man to do it correctly and with class. We all know Bush has brought down the US reputation and it is our duty to bring it up. Obama will bring hope, charisma, ideas, and leadership while Biden will provide the backbone to get it all done. Obama-Biden '08!!!

Corrupt Republicans have created such a mess that it is going to take all the great talents of both Obama and Biden to get the United States back to its true potential.

See http://www.Democracy-Now.us

With a text message, it is official. I lack a doctorate (or masters or even bachelors) in political science, but I can unequivocally say that Obama’s decision to select Biden as his vice presidential nominee is the best choice for America. I must admit that I have been worrying lately that Obama would have picked a lesser person based solely on the prevailing winds of political idiocy, or opinion polls.

It is difficult for me to put faith in others, let alone national figures whom I have never met, but I can honestly state that I have supreme confidence in this duo of politicians. While they are just men, flawed as all of us, and working in an even more flawed system, I honestly believe that this is the best option for our fine nation.

As stated above I am not a political genius. But I can read, disseminate information, and acknowledge fault. I hold reason and logic as the greatest traits a politician (or any human) can possess. Obama’s selection of Biden is the most reasoned and logical choice. While reason and logic are shunned if not outright laughed at by many (I will call these people Republicans), it is reason and logic that will save us all.

I would hope that you would evaluate your station in life currently and then take a moment to consider the options open to you come the first Tuesday in November. While I can respect true fiscal conservatives and the (few remaining) Republicans cut from this cloth, I have no respect for neo-conservative evangelicals that are out for #1. These people are mean spirited, hateful, and the embodiment of who should not be in politics. The institutionalized stupidity of the last seven years is shameful and at times even criminal. I do not say criminal in a figurative sense, rather many of the acts of the current administration and the followers are downright illegal.

We, as Americans, have the option to vote for quite possibly the sanest, most logical thinking, rational group in Obama/Biden than in all of recent political history (with the glaring exception of Clinton/Gore, also very sane, rational and logical).

As McCain is not a fiscal conservative, one of those few republicans that is well intentioned, but so philosophically different that I have a hard time understanding, yet I can respect, and I am sorry to say, but McCain is no maverick, look at his record after the Bushies accused him of having an illegitimate black child. That brings me to my first point on the personality of someone that would not vote for Obama/Biden.

I think that the biggest factor is racism. I am not suggesting that on opponent is a member of the KKK or anything, but there is latent racism in all or our characters. Not a single person is without some type of prejudice. This silent fear of electing a black man is understandable, as not too long ago there were still colored water fountains. If this is the barrier to voting democrat, then there is still hope. You can overcome fears and challenge yourself to examine what is the real issue and then make the right decision.

As few people voting against Obama would ever admit that they are doing so for a fear of electing a black man, then I am only left to assume that you are so dangerously uninformed that it frightening. McCain will not represent your best interest. Unless that best interest is your $250,000 to $4,999,999 annual income. Arguing anything else is nonsense. The only other justification would be abortion, and if that is your main concern, you really need to consider the difference between a Christian and Christ-like lifestyle. Who would Jesus vote for? I argue that Jesus would be a liberal, and seeing as many media outlets have labeled Obama as the most liberal senator, I think that Jesus would be pulling the lever for Obama/Biden.

whoever made the comment about the DJIA and Bush, the DJIA cracked 14,000 under Bush.... Clinton never cracked 11,000 (got close though). However, I am not naive enough to think that the president has control over these matters.

Obama just has failed his very first big test. If he would be really a candidate of change and "destroyer" of the old Washington politics, he would take a risk and go with Kaine. Two young country leaders(!) with lack of old-school political experience - that would be the Change! At least, that would be the "change we are believing in"?!

Clinton can still win!!! Take it to the floor of the convention!! You go girl!!

8 years ago, Bush promised to be a uniter, and the claim was that Republicans were uniters and Democrats dividers.

Today, we have a paid far-right nutcase team posing as disillusioned dems and independents promising to vote for McCain because of the Biden choice, or Hillary not getting the nomination, etc. In other words, the classic definition of DIVIDE AND CONQUER TACTICS.

Stay together Dems, don't let the extreme fanatics of the wingnut right divide us!

If Obama somehow wins, I want Biden no more than 3 feet from Obama at all times.

Biden and his wife need one of those connected bedrooms at the White House, like at a Holiday Inn, so that Obama never gets that 3am phone call alone. No more Home Alone in Chicago.

"Right-wing nuts and Hillary dead-enders (one in the same, actually) have NO GROUNDS to be criticizing the dedication of Obama supporters."

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Criticize? Are you kidding, this is awesome. Read some of the rightwing blogs - we think this is the greatest thing ever.

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I am sorely disappointed in this pick, and I am going to have to really mull over my pick in the general election. Barack energized the youth of America by being the candidate of change, but with a VP who has been in the Senate for 10 years longer than McCain, how can he say with a straight-face that he's still going to be for needed change?
Evan Bayh would have been my pick, hands down. As the youngest-ever Governor of Indiana, he led the State to a great budget surplus. He is serving his second term as US Senator, and has learned much from his father Birch Bayh and from the other great Senator from Indiana Richard Lugar. I don't understand the Bayh-bashing that a few posters have made, because if Barack hadn't popped into the national spotlight at the DNC 04, Hillary would have lost this election and Bayh would be our President in 2012.

I was on the fence but this seals it. I'm voting for Obama!!!

People who will be voting for McCain because someone called Obama arrogant are dangerously confused about what has happened over the past 8 years. We Americans are losing the very fabric of what makes this country great: out freedoms.

Consider this, at the beginning of the Bush presidency, by virtue of nothing more than being a citizen, you were presumed to be innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers. Today, one man can silently label you an enemy of the state for any reason and put you in a secret prison on foreign soil without breaking the law.

The Republican party has deeply corrupted many of our institutions over the last eight years, and this will only continue under a President McCain. His advisers are the same republican corporate lobbyists behind Bush.

At this time, our energy policy is literally being written by energy corporations, our phone, web, and email communications are being recorded by telecom corporations, and our military is being used to secure assets for the oil industry.

Our country is at risk, and true patriots will vote for Barack Obama and me, Joe Biden.

Is it prophecy, ignorance or arrogance?

Osama Bin Laden 2008
Obama Biden 2008

spv wrote: "i think obama/biden4change is a great ticket; my hope is those 75% will change their minds when they hear sen. biden speak and bring "truth-to-power" to the schmidt/rove/mccain shell game to bamboozle the american electorate once again. NOT THIS TIME!"
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Now that's what I call putting lipstick on a pig.
McCain & Romney is going to kick their but$s.

what was that i just heard 'the OLD STATUS QUO" sorry biden it's not you...how else do you think he would get elected without someone who knows something, or anything, for that matter. i think it would be wonderful if the gods would have hillary elected on the first nomination and vote.
wouldn't that just float your boat.

What I refuse to do is vote for someone who's ideas I do not support. The democrats put us in the position to have to make a controversial decision which I believe ultimately will haunt them in the end. I will not vote for Obama, but yes I do still consider myself a democrat. It would be absolutely insane for me to vote for Mccain because of my disappointment with the democratic nominee, so I will do as I hope many do, and won't vote.

In this case, no one cares because it is a horrible choice; insider, plagiarist old white man who can pull obama's strings for polosi. All McCain needs to do is pick an outside the beltway VP; Romney or Palin. Dig Romney, however you can't get any farther away from dc than Alaska. Palin has excellent conservative credentials and as a beautiful, youthful, highly intelligent woman can you just imagine her juxtaposed to John McCain vs obama and his old white man handler? She also represents a step forward rather than a step backwards. She CAN make a difference. Hillary would be smart to support McCain. He likes to reach across the isle, and in so, she could wield some power in her party after the debacle that is about to befall them. I just saw a photo of biden standing over BHO, whispering in his ear; a good representation of the political slave master.

I like Biden because he was chosen by Obama. They can work together well. Anyone who thinks Biden would be in charge (like Cheney) underestimates Obama's leadership skills. I am excited about this ticket.

benighse

After reading your post with all if its little McCute statements, I have to wonder about YOU thinking McCain sounds silly.

I was prepared to vote for McCain, but the prospect of Romney (a cult member and not a TRUE Christian) and now the pick of Biden, I'll be pulling the lever for Obama!!

Biden has the do nothing swagger and elitism of a 30+ yr senator. OH, he is one.
If experience and insider knowledge were so important they how did companies like Google, Dell, Microsoft ever get to where they are today. I’m disappointed with JB. Most significant change has begun because of the work of a few dedicated people. After we get the grassroots level moving, then you can bring in your "insiders" to maintain the momentum.
Don't ever underestimate what WE can do behind a spirited, visionary leader.

Even Kerry, who was viewed as weak, had the courage to pick the #2 Democrat form the primaries without fear of being upstaged. Obama is very weak.

"enough racists to make sure it doesn't happen"

?? Obama would not be where he is today without the white vote. And of course, over 90% of black votes going to Obama isn't racist?

Biden is a swell choice!
For all the Democratic malcontents, please consider this: McCain will nominate Supreme Court Justices who will overturn Roe v Wade, thus criminalizing abortions. That is a legacy I would not want my daughters or granddaughters to have to suffer. Secondly, his shoot from the hip mentality will have my grandsons drafted into a future incursion with some foreign country in order to flesh out his neo-con creds.
Lastly, take into account his many mis-statements, not knowing the Sunni/Shia situation, that Chekoslovolkia is no longer, that Iraq does not border Pakistan, how many homes he has, and the list goes on and on as long as he remains in the spotlight. Imagine how much longer this list will become if heaven-forbid, he gets to the White House.

What a stupid choice on Obama's part. Just another case of poor judgment.

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I am truely proud! we, a nation that up until recently was racist and bigoted, are about to elect our first african american president. This is truely a great ti me in our nation!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!!!!!!

Biden just seems boring to me as many others feel too. I would have rather seen a fresh face than Bidens same ole same ole politics as usual.

I probably won't vote now. Obama needed Indiana--kiss it good BAYH now!!!

obama was an idiot to pass over Hillary and pick Biden! Now it will be even closer between him and McCain! If McCain wins I will personally damn Obama for putting his ego first over America and having entered the Primary race in the first place. He used race as his "winning" card in the primary, and race will be his "losing" card in the general election. If he had picked Hillary, he would have easily won, and brought along big change in the senate. The change in the senate is what is so desparately needed in order to make "change" happen in Washington!

Holding my nose as I vote for Obama! Which is only a vote against McCain! I repeat, Obama is an egotistical IDIOT!!

I supported Joe Biden in the primaries until he dropped out, and while I'm glad he's been chosen today for VP candidate, I have to say how bizarre it is to see the young inexperienced arrogantly self-confident newbie be the head of the ticket and the stable, knowledgeable, thoughtful and mature leader be the second guy. If only this ticket were reversed, the country could be a lot surer of safety and reason in our next administration.

An impressive number of negative comments out there! This proves several things about Obama. Remember all the speculation about should he choose someone who helps the ticket or someone who will help govern? Biden shows the answer: Obama chose someone who will help him govern. The overwhelming thud reaction is a result of Biden's complete lack of charisma - something that in spite of his gravitas and credentials, held him back in the primaries. But don't underestimate his pull in Pennsylvania, a swing state that Obama had trouble in. Biden can claim it as his home state where he was born and still has connections. In an election where every state counts, every vote in Pennsylvania counts.

Having said that, the choice of Biden shows Obama's confidence. A more cynical electioneering choice would signal fear and a cop-out. Choosing the liberal senator from Delaware is a braver, bolder choice.

"I was prepared to vote for McCain, but the prospect of Romney (a cult member and not a TRUE Christian) and now the pick of Biden, I'll be pulling the lever for Obama!!"

Jay, you are just as religiously bigoted as those who would not consider JFK because of his religion.

Biden is a swell choice!For all the Democratic malcontents, please consider this:  McCain will nominate Supreme Court Justices who will overturn Roe v Wade, thus criminalizing abortions.  That is a legacy I would not want my daughters or granddaughters to have to suffer.  Secondly, his shoot from the hip mentality will have my grandsons drafted into a future incursion with some foreign country in order to flesh out his neo-con creds.  Lastly, take into account his many mis-statements, not knowing the Sunni/Shia situation, that Chekoslovolkia is no longer, that Iraq does not border Pakistan, how many homes he has, and the list goes on and on as long as he remains in the spotlight.  Imagine how much longer this list will become if heaven-forbid, he gets to the White House.

"WE can do behind a spirited, visionary leader"

Obama? A weak cowardly leader. I am writing in HRC. We will still have a Democratic congress and McCain is more competent. Obama and his supporters have shown that they do not care about HRC voters.

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Obama is about to make history. Be proud!

Those women who would sacrifice their country to four more years like those of Bush/Cheney simply because Hillary lost, reinforce the stereotype of the vengeful woman. It is akin to Medea murdering her children to revenge her husband's infidelity.

I was prepared to vote for McCain, but the prospect of Romney (a cult member and not a TRUE Christian) and now the pick of Biden, I'll be pulling the lever for Obama!!

MCCAIN IS BUSH,

Does your mommy and daddy know that you are playing on the internet?

Matt, I agree with you 100%. McCain does not need any fake Americans voting for him and neither does Obama for that matter. Cry baby Dems, just leave the country since you don't want to work within the system established. McCain is going take us where we need to be as a country. And he will make sure that we kick a-- all over the world. Military Magic Baby!

HEAR ME NOW....Clinton supporters, we don't need you to win this election. McCain is going to kick Obamas butt. You suck we hate you! We hate Clinton! REPUBLICANS RULE!!

IF she was the candidate you would not even stand a chance!! You better feel lucky you ended up with Obama.

McCain 2008!!! (without the help of the Clintonians)

Biden is a great choice. He seems vice-presidential. He's experienced without being too old. Pefert way to crush Mc7Houses.

TJ

Did anyone see Bill Maher on Larry King the other night? Bill claims that american people are to stupid to be governed and based on some of the comments made today, I would totally agree with his statement!

joe will get in there and bite McCains face. A real pit bull just when we need him. Attack attack

Romney just plain scares me. Don't Mormons believe in aliens and that Jews are evil? They're a cult!!

Howard:

As long as we are talking about the verbal mistakes of candidates, well kind of one-sided here with the McCain bashing, but did Obama not forget how many states were in the USA?

Joe had me at: "Noun,verb, 9/11". Great choice. I can't believe the Hillary supporters would vote for McCain! I was one. Don't these people recognize that the next President will appoint Supreme Court Judges? Remember Roe v. Wade? Remember the "signing statements" that are ongoing? Have your snit, then support the O & B. duo. I am a "recovering republican". I'm very happy with the choice the Dems have made.

to Obiewan One can argue that we now live in a communist society under a republican president who spies on americans at will. The republic party represents government running our daily activities. Vote republic if you want communist rule.

Judgment was the basis of Obama's quest for the presidency and change was his logo. He proclaimed to the world that he has the superior judgment because he made a speech about anti-Iraq intrusion, while his opponents in the Democratic Party primay were part of those who authorized Bush's action. People took that statement at heart because of their disgust and even hatred of putting our servicemen in harm's way, a war that was unneeded and "rediculous." So, the Democratic leadership anointed the speech maker - an orator who could read a teleprompter without any hint that he is reading, yet stutter and could not make a good judgment as in the Saddleback Forum; an orator who could mesmerize his audience, expecially the younger generation who identified with him and made the world see him through their ears. Another judgment that in my opinion is flawed. "It's above my pay grade," is more like voting present. One NYT columnist commented in that Forum that Obama "came across as professional and pensive, not presidential. McCain was direct and compelling. Obama's "response to the crisis in Georgia was tepid and swishy. McCain was muscular and straightforward." Regretfully, the Democratic leadership turned against the most qualified senator from New York, more so, obviously, of their secret hatred against the Clintons, a repeat of what they did to another southerner, Jimmy Carter. Republicans call them wimps, but they were all macho and gung ho when they attack their own party member. Now, Obama's judgment is again put to test in his selection of another senator, Joe Biden, as his running mate. As a Democrat, I am aware that during the primary, Biden did not make a dent among the Democratic voters. The only words that stick to our mind was his downgrading of Giulliani as a "verb, a noun and 9/11," and his comment about Obama as an "articulate, bright and clean young man," which a Washington Post columnist thought was negative in meaning. I would not be surprised if the Democrats were turned off by Biden's bombastic and almost sarcastic way of arguing his points. Imagine, one by one, the candidates folded up, one was even tagged as a Judas and all became supplicants to the anointed, singing praises to what they tell us, the savior of what Bush had done to our country, yet 18 million Democrats thought otherwise. Taking another senator from the Senate is another problem of the Party to put more in there, in order to get a veto-proof Congress. The Democrats have now chosen a duo who will become the chattering administration if they win. Now they are trying to be negative and getting personal instead of keeping alive the Democratic issues close to the hearts of the people. McCain with 7 residences!? Wow! As if we don't know that even in small towns, those average, hard working couples, own dozen or more houses, especially, thanks to the Clinton "peace and prosperity" administration. They did it without any assistance from a tainted person or persons.The Party and Obama campaign should not have gone into a real estate business attack on McCain or the Rezko affair will become alive again. What with the "boneheaded move," judgment. They would soon elevate a Reagan trajectory in their agenda than mention about a Democratic administration that balanced the budget, created 25 million jobs and surplus to boot. Jealousy made them anoint a supposedly "clean" young man, but then as we went along we are beginning to find things about Obama, now that the Republicans are trying to do the vetting, serious flaw that Hillary could not do to a fellow Democrat, that do not jibe well to what we are seeking for as a leader of our country. The Obama protective media did not want to see anything about his body language during the debates. Now, the Republicans are beginning to expose in the internet and in newspaper, who the real Obama is, something that Hillary could not do during the primary. They could say "bros before hos," or show nutcracker doll, yet Hillary could not do a rejoinder. They could make the Clintons racists ala swift boaters to Senator Kerry, accuse her of throwing kitchen sinks at Obama; turned her into a shrew and made Obama, the "orchid" or "house plant," (Maureen Dowd's adjectives), nurtured with the Democratic leadership's tender, loving care. Why are many Democrats disgusted and disappointed to the point that they either will not vote for Obama or vote at all? In my opinion, it was how the Democratic leadership's way of tainting the democratic process of selecting the standard bearer of the Party that made it appear that they already have their preferred candidate. I mean, what good is the primary, if the leaders of the Party tell their constituents that this candidate is our candidate? I don't think we can blame Senator McCain of what is now beginning to appear relative to who the real Senator Obama is. Reaching out? A columnist telling us that McCain is "hazy and undefined." Even, as insignificant person as I am, I know what he has been doing in the Senate; even reaching out to the leaders of the Democratic Party. I do not know of any Obama's reaching out to the Republicans. Deeds and not words will show a real leadership. Like in the military, "leadership by example," is what makes our country strong

"Is it prophecy, ignorance or arrogance?
Osama Bin Laden 2008
Obama Biden 2008"
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Even better,
Barack Hussein Obama...

Hussein (president) - Bin Laden (VP)

i like the ticket, primarily that it's going to have a swagger. Not as in "stupid and sinister" ala Bush/Cheney. these guys have Smarts and they are going to have an elusive chemistry that will stengthen each of them. Biden's net worth is like minus $300.000, this almost makes him a hero. They are both engaging personalities (not a bad thing, try not following the rubbish spin), Bottom line look at the men, contrast them with Bush/Cheney or Mccain (he has been bought) Obama ran a brilliant campaign, his donations are all small sums the big boys are terrified.McCain/ Romney/Lieberman/etal not good, look who supports them. It's a very easy decision. Open your eyes and ears, think and stop being scared.

Excellent. Simply excellent. Good choice, Sen. Obama.

From a Libertarian who used to like you Republicans when you actually stood for something -- I am now a Dem and will vote Obama/Biden.

I'm looking over all these hair-brained posts from right-wingers spouting their usual predictable regurgitation of their chosen spoon fed idealogy. What a bunch of morons.

For example;
"Increase taxes, then create new entitlement programs for people who lack initiative,give health insurance to everyone and destroy the quality of the American health care system, weaken our defense."

Um, yeah. Read the papers much, dude? We are in a recession and have an 8 yr. term from a silver-spoon elite idiot to thank. Are military has been made weaker thanks to his administrations bad decisions. The health care system is a mess because govt. sponsors Big Pharma and Insurance and the for-profit motive feeds on the middle class and working poor, and gives the rich and powerful protection and MORE $$. Repubs lessen taxes for the rich while bankrupting the working class, we are like milk cows for them.

Republicans don't stand for little govt. and little taxes anymore, so GET OVER IT. They are the socialists here...we are a Socialist Corporacracy abetted and aided by the Govt, and Repubs want to keep it that way. Elitist, power-hungry socialist mobsters fooling you into thinking they are the Freedom party...HA!

Oh, and who is that Ivy League character up there spouting Republicans for life SUCKAS? You must be a Yankees fan. Deluded, denuded and can't spell worth a dang.

Hopefully, Obama wins this Fall - we can't afford a third term of Bush, which McSame will surely bring....after all, McSame voted 95% with Bush and 87.8% with the Republican Congress over the last 8 years.....hardly a Maverick at all....more like a pathetic old lemming.

Bush is solely responsible for tripling our National debt to 9.5 TRILLION dollars (we owe interest on it, and have collectors expecting the money back), a massive trade deficit, a weak dollar (your gas would be $1 a gallon less if it wasn't for Bush), a war we never needed to get into (YOU go die in it if you want, Republican), and the entire world thinks of us as a huge JOKE for electing a stupid hick that ran us into the ground.....and where was McCain? - voting RIGHT ALONG with all of this stupid hick's policies.
Time to wake up, people. If you vote McCain, you are going to kick yourself for voting THREE TIMES for the same dumb policies over & over!

If Hillary had won I would have voted for her. Obama is the presumptive nominee. Biden rounds out the qualifications of the ticket, and I'm enthusiastic about voting for both of them.
Divide and conquer is the M.O. of the republicans. They used it to destroy our manufacturing base, our economy, our national prestige, and our ability to check their excesses. Please don't shoot yourselves in the foot by voting for McCain. Putting a republican in office is like hiring a pyromaniac into the Fire Department. They try to take credit for fighting problems that they cause in the first place.

I was prepared to vote for McCain, but the prospect of Romney (a cult member and not a TRUE Christian) and now the pick of Biden, I'll be pulling the lever for Obama!!

I have to laugh......Obama has flip flopped on just about every important issue....all he had left was this ridiculous claim that he was the candidate of "Change"--- The best way to pound that last nail in the "Change" coffin was to pick the ultimate in career politicians and Washington insiders as his VP.

Anyone who thinks Obama has run a good campaign is either not paying attention or so in the tank for the guy they are blinded by their ideology.

Obama was given this election on a silver platter and has slowly thrown it away. Even with the giant fund raising advantage he has lost ground all summer.

The way polls are always skewed towards Democrats, Obama's slim national lead is really a deficit.....maybe a substantial one....

Id say....and im no McCain fan....this election is now his to lose...I would not be surprised if McCain ended up with a much larger win than anyone thought possible.

Just wait until Obama does his off the teleprompter implosion during the debates.

McCain is really kind of awful but Obama has been an embarrassment to himself and America.

Come on, Obama all but said China was a better country than the US yesterday....only the very far left isnt completely turned off by that attitude.

Hillary was the only chance Obama had....i know a few people personally who have switched to McCain now that Mrs. Clinton has been officially passed over. I can only imagine how many votes nationally, and more importantly, in swing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Florida that he has now lost.....Pennsylvania is a MUST win for Obama and was once a pretty sure thing....not anymore....if it flips to Red we are looking at a possible landslide....

Then again....McCain is just dumb enough to blow it....

Let's see how much Obama/Biden can fix in the next 8 years. Luckily we'll have a dem congress to make it a little easier.

Go Obama!!!

It's interesting that Biden is considered someone "who can take over" when Obama himself is incapable of taking over... (unless there's a telepompter at the ready.)

Shoot! I was really hoping for Ayers for a "double-Socialist" ticket!

D wrote "so I will do as I hope many do, and won't vote."

Yeah, that'll work!

I'm bewildered -- and repelled -- by all these posts using the phrase "old white man" as a derogatory term.

Agism, racism and sexism all wrapped into one neat package of prejudice! Nice going, posters.

Jay is stuck on stupid.

Geez, all this negativity about Joe Biden....folks, get a little context. At least he's not Dick Cheney. Obama isn't perfect and neither is Biden, but does anyone seriously contend that an Obama/Biden administration would be worse for the country than Bush/Cheney? Or that McCain's pick will be better? Who could McCain select who would be better than Biden? Chuck Hagel isn't going to run with McCain, Colin Powell is 71 and has his misleading statements to the UN to deal with, Dick Lugar is 76, so McCain's not going to pick him. He's sure not going to pick Condi Rice, as that would put Bush's foreign and national security disaster millstones around his neck. None of the moderate Republicans will run with McCain, so who is left? Joe Lieberman? Yeah, that's better than Biden...right.

Mark my words.
Barack Obama isn't going to change anything. He just knows what platform to use to get elected. There are plenty of people too young to know what a politician is.

I am voting for Obama, I don't understand how anyone can vote for a man who is worth over $100 million, then talks about how he is a common man. Granted Obama makes over $4 million a year, but he earned all of his money.

Obama doesn't need the 75% whose minds aren't changed, it's the 13% who now say they're more likely to vote for him.

Newsflash:

McCain diagnosed with Alzheimer's! Tragedy for the McCain family!!

Mike:

Obama was voted the most liberal in the senate, you know how many times he voted with his party? That does not sound like the great unifier to me. And what kind of coward voted 'present' so he does not have to pick a side or have his name attached to a bill? People elected him to lead and vote for them, not vote present.

Biden is boring and has bad hair plugs, this was a terrible pick. I'm bored with Barack. Too bad he didn't pick someone exciting.

"Does anyone seriously contend that an Obama/Biden administration would be worse for the country than Bush/Cheney? Or that McCain's pick will be better?"

Yes, I do on both counts.

Most Americans are to look at the stack of bills on the kitchen table and just not be able to stomach 4 more years of the GOP.

Brian:

Cindy is worth $100 million, he married a sugar-momma, like Kerry did. There is a prenuptial agreement too btw.

"I think Biden is a bad pick. He has a history of saying really silly things then having to backtrack. For example the quote about Obama. Then there is the plagiarism issue that will come up."

Considering what America has put up with the past 8 years, I very much don't this is a major issue.

The problem I've seen develop in my 50 years of following politics is how Americans figure that there is supposed to be a grown adult out there that has never said or done anything they do not approve of. As Chico might say - that's a nice - but if we put that criteria on other people we interact with, we wouldn't eat out anywhere, let alone turn our cars over to mechanics for maintenance.

America had best start concentrating on the issues and what is best for them and their family. The middle class has been shrinking for decades. Like the 1950's Soviet Union, the only good jobs that offer health care, pensions and security are with the government, while politicians spend obscene amounts of money preparing juvenile ads that frame their opponents personalities as junior high school peer pressure might. Were those hundreds of millions and probably billions of political campaign contributions dollars put to some use to help the institutions in this country that are falling apart by the day, then maybe the US dollar might not be tanking, home prices might not be nose diving, and our standard of living would not be sinking.

Hey Captain America,
Isn't Seven-Houses McCain an atheist? Since he's not really a god person, don't you worry your repukelican values will be lost?

As for Romney, doesn't he believe in flying saucers behind Jupiter and that when you die you get to rule over an entire planet with your wife, subjecgating everyone in your world?

Fellow Evangelicals:

Mormons are known for their cultish practices and subversion of TRUE Christian practices. If Romney is selected by McCain we may all be in detention camps by 2010.

I was a strong believer in a Clinton/Obama ticket. Since that did not happen the next best is an Obama/Biden ticket.
As a Hillary voter, I pledge my full support to the Obama/Biden ticket, because I want my country back from 8 yeras of disaster created by the two ugly Americans Bush/Cheney.

This ticket is going to slam mcshame and whomever he chooses!!!

WOOHOO!!!!

Biden is a dissappointment for moderate/conservative Democrats. This is now an ultra-liberal Democratic ticket. There's no philosophical balance to reflect middle America. Catholics and Evangelicals sitting on the fence will likely jump to the Republican column. That is, unless McCain picks Romney or some other ultra-conservative for VP, then maybe Obama/Biden have a chance. A hyper conservative ticket for McCain will move moderates and independents into the Democrat column. If McCain picks a moderate for VP then he will win.

AMERICAN SOCIALISM

Obama/Biden

Joe wants our guns
and Obama wants our cash
how does an American
survive under that?

Raised by Muslims
with communist agendas
how are we ever
going to defend us?

We'll go to the doctors
controlled by the socialists
they'll do their experiments
just before they kill us

They'll print up the dollars
to pay for their entitlements
until our moneys worthless
and we all rely on government

Jay,
I've noticed all of those detention camps all around Utah.

Thank you for demonstrating your absurdity.

As reported by Maureen Dowd and David Corn, at a Republican fundraiser, McCain joked: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."

____________

I did not know about this. Truly a classless remark. Maybe Mr. McCain can share with us his feeling on Dick Chaney's family members.

Mormons are on record as advocating the OVERTHROW of TRUE Christians! Can we afford to have a member of a CULT that close to the ULTIMATE power?

Just out of curiosity, how many houses does Biden have? Not that that matters...
McCain '08

Before taking office, Obama and Biden will swear to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. After taking office they will honor this sacred oath unlike the "Republicons" and their Federalist and neocon appointees.

We, the People, will be represented; government will no longer belong to the multinational corporations and their lobbyists. That is why the "Republicons" are resorting to every and all means, however despicable, to elect a person like McCain to stay the course.

The right of individuals to worship whatever God they choose will be respected by our government. The views of the heretics will not be subsidized by the tax payers.

The "elite" will pay their taxes just like the rest of us and tax receipts will be used for positive and constructive purposes, not to kill and ravage for personal power and wealth.

I am surprised that so many people here are disappointed. I mean, get real!
If Obama wanted change he would have picked Dennis Kucinich for vice president.

Come to think of it, if the Democratic primary voters had wanted change, they would not have picked Obama in the first place. They would have picked Senator Gravel or Congressman Kucinich.

Just face the facts, the US has only one political party, with two branches that are very similar.

In response to Linda R. of Virginia:

Now there's an intelligent solution Linda. Sabotage the election because you haven't got the maturity to accept the people's choice.

You are likely a Republican anyway as I do believe that a majority of the Hillary get-even crowd are actually spoilers acting on behalf of the good ol' boy Republican game plan.

But you know Linda, whether you are a wolf in sheep's clothing or simply a tantrum throwing Democrat, your illogic is stunning. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence will dismiss your ignorant rant - can't help the poor individuals who are hopelessly brainwashed into voting against their own best interest.

In closing I say, "Linda, get some help, go back to school, educate and enlighten yourself and then come back into the real world."

I am so supporting this Obama-Biden ticket.
Joe Biden is an upstanding citizen who's son is going to Iraq soon. He lost his first wife and child, and battled a brain anuerism that nearly killed him. He's hung in there and he's smart. He is the perfect candidate to compliment Obama. He's not another Cheney, he's a team player. He may speak his mind candidly but what he says makes sense. Have you forgotten the "Bomb bomb bomb Iran" song McCain sang in front of the International press. Don't you think McCain has to have some emotional damage after his ordeal. He never talks about it, "PTSD". Perhaps he has memory loss. We missed it w/ Regan. He's not the man w/ the hypervigilent damaged mindset that I would want to have push that button.

So, a 35 year Washington insider is "change we can beleive in"? How funny is that!

Let's watch the Obama people call the Clinton fans "stupid" or "vindictive" some more.

Surely you won't need us to vote for your guy, as he's way ahead in the polls and it's going to be a landslide.

Oh wait, it's not...

if america is for sale; america need a best seller like bush that s why people who like mc cain think he is the best because the look alike but one is a little bit shotter than the other that why mc cain vote 95% with bush the both as nothing to offer only their elist desire, but obama has every thing to offer because every knew where is came from and has a yong men ,he really focus on education that is basically what is beleive "myself I dont trust people period but life ask a certain of faith a little story line :the man whose sicken the power is not men on power in other word whom ever become president will be different from his message by at least 80% but on Obama Ican see the other 20% invest on america but with bush or mc cain it will be total kaos that s why my freind if you like america think before you give your precious vote

Jay,
Where are they on record? Cite your sources. They believe that free agency is the greatest gift that God has given. They also believe that Satan wanted to take away that gift.

Mormons don't want to "overthrow" anything. You are fearfull because of your ignorance of who they really are.

Most of the posts here that does not like Obamas choice are McCain backers. Save your B.S you will need as much B.S as possible to cover up all the stupid stuff your boy McCain has said and will say. Obama is the man in 08

Mormons are Scientologists in disguise!! Beware Xenu!!

Up until June, the polls said that Obama was behind in courting the white female(Hillary) vote. By July, that gap was no longer an issue (Tadaa!) and the new holy grail became the white male vote. So he picks Biden, big surprise. He made a huge mistake overlooking Hillary and her 18 million votes. I'm a lifelong dem who voted for her, so I won't vote for McCain, I just won't vote at all. If you Obamots want the White House so bad, get off your computers and go work to get those votes. You're not automatically entitled to mine.

People never cease to amaze me!follow these instructions:get a hammer and hit the thumb on your right hand,ouch thats hurts dont it?Now hit the thumb on your left hand,ouch that hurts too huh?So why after having Bush for almost 8 yrs.now would anyone vote for McCain,like both thumbs hurting so would another republican?Havent you had enough pain and suffering for one life time?Before the middle of 2006 republicans controlled the house and senate for 12 yrs straight,they lost it to the Democrats for a reason,if you have to ask why,then your part of the problem!!Why cant the democratic congress get anything done,because it takes 10 votes over the majority to keep the President from being able to veto.
If your still a republican or thinking about becoming one,please seek help,youll need it if McCain gets elected!

If we allow a Mormon (aka CULT MEMBER) close to power, what's next? YOUR CHILDREN that's what!!!

"Obama has been outspoken about contributions from lobbyists, vowing not to accept any contributions from them. Biden doesn't seem to have quite the same view. The lobbying industry has given him $344,400 since 1997"
Read for yourself:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/the-money-behind-biden.html

But then Obama is a flip-flopper, so it's ok, right?

Maybe he can also get another land deal from Mr. Rezko while he's at it.

I called it last night.

Way to go, Barry! That Scranton working class kinda guy will pull the Hillary vote in PA. Hope there's as many unemployed Scrantonites in Ohio as well.

Has anyone checked out Delaware, lately? It's the 'home' of countless corporations, because of its business laws. Joe's the guy we'll be calling on to get things done, especially in the alternative energy field.

Keep your eye on the real world, folks. This one is getting sweeter by the minute.

Go Obama!

Those of us who grew up knowing the Joe Biden story in Delaware knew Joe Biden was destined for VP or Pres some day. That it really now has happened is truly amazing. Look into this man and you will see a future great statesman. Delaware knew for many years what we all are learning now, that Joe Biden is one great man. If you want to see how smart Obama can be, look at his choice in VP. He has it right.
All of us will benefit from them winning in November. Thank you Delaware. Now, figure out a way to beat Appalachian State in football.

"Fellow Evangelicals:

Mormons are known for their cultish practices and subversion of TRUE Christian practices. If Romney is selected by McCain we may all be in detention camps by 2010."

You, my child, are a true christian. I told you friggin people to Love Everybody!!! You can't even listen to me correctly! I didn't want to do this but you left me no choice. I AM DAMNING YOUR SOUL TO HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!

Now, anyone else want to spew hatred and bigotry in my name?

I thought not.
Have a nice day.

Love,
God.

(Oh yeah, vote for Obama in Nov.)

Good choice. Good man. Hands down.

And relax all you "change warriors".

Though Joe Biden is the consumate Washington insider, does anyone really think you can effect change without some of that?

There is a shared vision with these two. And Biden is a wise and shrewdly strategic choice for the contest ahead.

As per GW...'bring 'em on"

CORRECTED:
(yes, even I make mistakes)

"Fellow Evangelicals:

Mormons are known for their cultish practices and subversion of TRUE Christian practices. If Romney is selected by McCain we may all be in detention camps by 2010."

You, my child, are a NOT true christian. I told you friggin people to Love Everybody!!! You can't even listen to me correctly! I didn't want to do this but you left me no choice. I AM DAMNING YOUR SOUL TO HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!

Now, anyone else want to spew hatred and bigotry in my name?

I thought not.
Have a nice day.

Love,
God.

(Oh yeah, vote for Obama in Nov.)

I considered myself a Democrat up to today, but now, I have to call myself a Independent. I thought that I could vote for Obama if he put Hillary Clinton on the ticket. Now I find out that he has the picked Joe Biden as his running mate. I think Joe Biden is a Great and Honorable Person but he is not the person who garnered almost and equal amount of votes.--This situation should have been a no-brainer.--Eighteen Million votes times two equals a more than likely win for the Democrats. Also,the democrats would have both their first and second choice for the Presidential Positions. I have heard that they, Hillary and Barack, are quite similar on their policies. What better team could we have for reforming this country after the Bush legacy of disaster--two able and willing fighters. Obama's next book should be titled "The Audacity of Arrogance." I just hope this country can survive another four years of GOP economics!!!

Let's face reality, Obama needs a strong foreign policy guy, so it makes sense in getting Biden on board. Do I think that Biden is good, not really, but its his foreign policy background that makes him attractive. As for the Republicans trashing him, c'mon now, they were going to trash anyone, but with Biden's credentials, it makes it a little bit harder. Yes, yes, yes, I know that Biden has foot in mouth disease, but look at the bunch at 1600 Pennslyvania now. Anyway, who's McCain going to pick with a reasonable foreign policy? If it's someone we all know, how come that guy is not already in D.C. trying to shore up our foreign affairs policies already. And please don't tell me, that we already have and her name is Condi Rice...Please!

I just listened to a CNN correspondent who said that Biden can win over voters who supported Hillary, especially women voters.

Mormon's advocate loss of rights and marginalization of TRUE CHRISTIANS!!! This is a DANGEROUS CULT!!! McCain has been put under their spell!!!

Personally I'm happy with the Biden decision.

While he might not have been a successful Presidential candidate he has foreign affairs experience that is impressive. He also has sufficient time in office to have matures from his more liberal stance when he first joined the Senate.

More importantly right now is that his appointment is going to put a lot of pressure on McCain in his selection for his running mate. It will reign in the talk about being "adventurous" with the selection, and probably result in a more traditional choice.

Yes, please. All you Hillary people who are going to vote for the man who crudely joked that Hillary is a lesbian and that her daughter is ugly, go ahead and vote for McCain. He is a symbol of everything you hate about our culture, yet you will vote for him. Amazing.

This is a winning ticket! I'm excited!!!

LooseFur wrote:
“And don't forget that it took Bill Clinton almost 3-1/2 years to learn how things work here--Biden will shorten that learning curve by a lot.”

You for get Clinton had Gore who had 8 yrs in the House of Representatives.

For those of you who have drawn the erroneous conclusion that Obama/Biden have some similarity with Bush/Cheney, let me point out that Obama was the head of the Law Review and got into two Ivy League schools on scholarship WITHOUT mentioning his race.
Bush was cheerleader in chief and a legacy admission.
Dumb and lazy left room for Cheney to rule. That will not be the case in an Obama/Biden administration.

For all of you who keep talking about Obama's brothers, go read his autobiography and turn off Rush. His listeners never verify and he counts on it.

I am delighted with Biden, he knows where the bodies are buried in Washington and the difference between shia and sunni unlike McC.

Hillary isn't a lesbian?

I think Obama picking Biden shows how desperate his campaign has become. How can you espouse CHANGE and HOPE and pick a 65 year old career politician to be your running mate? It's pretty obvious Obama never believed in THE AUDACITY OF HOPE- it wasn't a mantra to live by--- it was a short term tagline to get through the primaries. We have all been duped.

Could the democrats be any worse at blowing it? They could have beaten Bush with anybody bu