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About six in 10 voters see Republican John McCain as mainly on the attack, while most see Democrat Barack Obama as focused on the issues, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Nearly seven in 10 of those surveyed Wednesday through Saturday said Obama is primarily addressing the issues in the campaign; 59 percent said McCain is instead focused on attacking Obama. The number seeing McCain on the offensive is up sharply from before the nominating conventions, and the disparity between the two candidates jibes with a recent analysis showing McCain's advertising almost exclusively focused on Obama's perceived negatives.

A report last week by the University of Wisconsin Advertising Project found that nearly all of McCain's TV spots at the beginning of the month were negative ads, compared with about a third of Obama's. But both sides have been doing their share of negative ads: Overall, the university researchers show that 73 percent of McCain's ads and 61 percent of Obama's have been negative in tone over the course of the campaign.

In the new Post-ABC poll, one of the biggest changes and widest disparities on the candidate's tone is among independents.

Among those core swing voters, 68 percent see Obama as primarily issue-oriented, more than double the number to say so about McCain. Since late August, these voters have become more inclined to see Obama as focused on addressing the issues, and less apt to say so of the Republican nominee.

Do you think ... has been mainly attacking his opponent or addressing the issues?

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By Jon Cohen  |  October 12, 2008; 6:00 PM ET
 
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Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!

Women must unite against the liberal media vicious, sexist, cruel, demeaning, contemptuous UN-AMERICAN, unfair, unprofessional, unrelenting and blatantly biased treatment against Vice President Sarah Palin and acting blatantly in favor of Barack Hussein Obama during this unprecedented historic quest for the presidency!

Barack Hussein Obama claims a mightier throne, one forged in liberal ideals of justice and equality and hope, BUT he has benefited mightily from sexism in this campaign, and has remained silent. Obama supporters seem very happy with the sexist way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by Sarah Palin, and many believe that most of the "venom" in the campaign is coming from supporters of Obama.

Women of America Unite in this defining moment in American history. To ensure we can grow up from the male dominated government that has caused many of the problems our country is facing; to a country where men and women are equal partners in governance.

Women of America Unite
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!
VOTE for McCain/Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 12, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Manolete - Can you give me an example of a sexist attack on Palin? An argument, opinion or point of view that would not be made if she were a man, saying & doing the same things that she's doing?

Posted by: Maureen | October 12, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Also... Despite the fact that Sarah Palin has female genitalia, can you tell me what issues she supports that are beneficial to women or gender equality?

Posted by: Maureen | October 12, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I am a Republican woman, and while I was leaning to Obama, I had a high degree of respect for McCain. With his choice of Palin- an unqualified, ignorant and, as we now see, racially divisive pick - and his subsequent unpresidential behavior, McCain has forfeited my respect.

Posted by: aileyfromCA | October 12, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Manolete,
Your are funny. At least, I hope you are trying to be funny.
If you are not being funny, then you are either a lackey for the McCain campaign, or you are just anencephalic.

Posted by: Roberto | October 12, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Now Obama is involved in mugging. Sigh.

Sarah Palin was chosen primarily because it was good for McCain's campaign, not because it was good for the country. There were plenty of strong, smart and most importantly, qualified, candidates he could have chosen from - both male and female.

I'm sorry you feel that there has been a lot of sexism directed towards Sarah Palin. However, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have gone out of their way to ignore her and focus on McCain. Voting for McCain because you want to vote against sexism makes little sense.

Further, calling Barack Obama "Barack Hussein" just shows that you're xenophobic. And the last thing independents respond well to is bigotry. Well, at least you put Hussein is all caps like some people do.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I must give the McCain campaign credit, they have advanced the cause of equality for women. It is said that true equality is when an incompetent minority or woman gets a job that would normally gone to an incompetent man.

Posted by: chris | October 12, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Manolete: Palin is being sexist as well as you.


Not the media nor OBama's campaign.

Back to McCain. Here is a little more info on McCains: http://www.montereyherald.com/ci_10703347?nclick_check=1.

If this is his office, helping friends to purchase properties for a mere fraction of the property value in this hard times we all are going through, we're done as a nation.

I think Diamond and McCain owes Monterey County the full value plus fines.

McCain STAY OUT OF MY CALIFORNIA.

Posted by: Renegade | October 12, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

They are definitely responding to claims that they were not responsibly handling the comments from onlookers. I think more rules for campaigning should be in place though. They're allowed to spew whatever lies they can manipulate out (on both sides). Just because someone votes for/against abortion doesn't mean they're for/against it, as often it's the details that influence the vote.

If you have to use his middle name, or reference religion in your attacks against him: You're probably wrong on all fronts. No one says John Sidney McCain when they reference McCain, so cut the manipulative propaganda. Government isn't based on religion, and laws cannot get into society without approval from many people in Congress AND the House. (Directed to the general public.)

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

The only sexism I've seen against Palin have come from her own party who treats her with kid gloves because they know she is woefully ignorant when it comes to the major issues that affect the country. Of course, the selection of Palin as McCain's running mate was the most sexist maneuver in politics ever - nominating someone so unqualified instead of advancing one of the many men or women who were up to the task.

Posted by: ol cranky | October 12, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

The University of Wisconsin is one of the best universities in the country. Anyone who has been watching the campaigns, however, already knows what their results show: that Sen. McCain is trying to scare the votes out of people, while Sen. Obama is trying to remain calm and address the issues. I fear that the McCain-Palin campaign has stirred racial and ethnic attitudes that most Americans would like to move past. We want to get away from our racialized past, not drag it into the election booth with us. McCain's second mistake is taking the road of cheap shots and attacks. His first mistake: picking S. Palin to be his VP. (BTW, go to Youtube and watch the videoclip called "Hey Sarah Pain". If the stakes were not so high, it would be hilarious.)

Posted by: Rubiales | October 12, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Who is Hal Turner?

* In my opinion, based on my first hand experience, I believe Sean Hannity is, in fact, a Hal Turner sort of guy. It seems to me that a big difference between Sean and me is that I am willing to say publicly what I think about savage Black criminals, diseased, uneducated illegal aliens and the grotesque cultural destruction wrought by satanic jews while Sean and many others keep quiet to protect their paychecks.

* On Wednesday, March 19, Malik Zulu Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party appeared as a guest on "Hannity & Colmes" to discuss the Obama / Reverend Wright controversy. During that appearance, Sean Hannity asked Shabazz if Barak Obama shouldn"t be judged by his past affiliations with Reverend Wright, to which Shabazz replied by asking Sean Hannity "Should you be judged by your past association with Hal Turner, a neo-Nazi?"I was quite disappointed when Sean Hannity at first tried to say he didn"t know me and then went on to say that I ran some senate campaign in New Jersey. In fact, Sean Hannity does know me and we were quite friendly a number of years ago.

* I can tell you from my firsthand, personal experience that Sean Hannity does, in fact, agree with many of my political and social views.

Posted by: Question | October 12, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Of course Barack is mugging. He's a black man right? Black man, white woman, get it? wink wink

Posted by: landur | October 12, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The Alaskan legislature has concluded that Governor Palin has violated state ethics laws and abused her power. Typically, Palin ignores this proving why the legislature came to this conclusion in the first place.
If Palin became Vice President she would continue this pattern of abuse of power.
If Palin became the President of the United States, it would be a disaster followed by impeachment

Posted by: seemstome | October 12, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Woops, typo. I meant "Hey Sarah Palin".

Posted by: Rubiales | October 12, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Amazes me how negative attacks from the left continually get a pass, negative campaigning is not good from either side.

I must admit that I will definitely not be voting for Obama, mainly because I do not agree with his tax approach, but more than that I do not believe most people are paying attention to what is happening. If Obama is elected and the pattern with the house and senate continue, then the government will be controlled by the far left, which in my opinion is very dangerous, because we will loose the checks and balances the government needs.

Posted by: James J | October 12, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has been acting erratically ever since he selected Palin for his running mate. When the economy failed his behavior became bizarre. Stresses on any president in the next few years are going to be extreme . They will be fatal on someone in McCain's health and mental state. When he steps down we will then inherit his Palin fiasco
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Instead, we need a cool-headed and logical leader who can handle this crisis.

Kipling said it best:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!


He was talking about men like Obama.

Posted by: seemstome | October 12, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Women of America are united AGAINST Palin! She's an insult to women and women's rights. Her appeal is only to right wing extremists who want to make their rules everyone's rules. Well she's really proving just how dishonest and abusive she is - a power hungry fool who should do the right thing and give up the nomination. But it won't be long until she's gone and good riddance!

Posted by: Tru Blu | October 12, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break - Palin gets what she deserves. She obviously thought she could snow the American people into believing that she had a clue about foreign policy, domestic policy, the economy but it appears that she couldn't even get Alaska to believe her ethics probe was wrong (that is mostly Republicans). Sarah Palin has set women back incredibly based on her utter lack of intellectual interest in the country's affairs. I shudder to think what a Palin presidency would look like should something befall McCain. Here is one Republican who will be voting for Obama - McCain did it to himself by choosing the short-sighted Palin as his sidekick albeit non-maverick in my book. Same old tired Republican views on abortion - do the Republicans not understand most of us are on the side of pro-choice?

Posted by: C Roberts | October 12, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Pretty certain everyone involved on the inside tract know Obama will be our next President.

Hopefully we will see some little improvement in our economic and world affairs problems.

McCain is now spending $2 million dollars because of so-called vandilisim in all his offices around the country. What is he implying.? The man is dead meat and Winki should get herself some good eyedrops so she can open both eyes and see the WRITING ON THE WALL. GO HOME AND SCREW THE ALASKINS. WASHINGTON AND THE MAINLAND JUST ISNT YOUR CUP OF TEA - YOU BETCHA!

Posted by: LYNN PARKER | October 12, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I've very unsavory words for anybody trying to say that the Obama/Biden ticket has been sexist towards Palin. This lady is poisonous. To confirm this you only need to see that venom she has been directing at Obama. That the Democratic nominee of the Democratic Party pals with terrorists. Palin has no grace. And because I know McCain is going to be defeated in the election, that will mark the end of the political career of this hateful woman.

I'm so pleased with those patriotic Americans who have decided to stick with Obama. The McCain campaign has been trying to cast Obama as an outsider, a person who doesn't belong in this country. No wonder the first poster in this article uses Obama's middle name "HUSSEIN" in caps to advance McCain's shameless xenophobic campaign. I guess Americans have come to realize that Republicans have nothing to offer. They should be flushed down the toilet bowl on November 4

Posted by: James, Seattle | October 12, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Are you crazy, lady. Sarah Palin no more represents me then Osama Bin Laden does. In fact, they both fall into that Radical Religious group trying to force their beliefs on the rest of us.

Ain't no way I would even think about supporting her.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Manolete, your blindness is disgusting.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

John S said:
"Amazes me how negative attacks from the left continually get a pass, negative campaigning is not good from either side."

I don't grasp how this is partisan news - it's factial data from an accredited university. Furthermore, I think negative attacks on Obama are in the media (and, sadly, on cartoonish billboards with him wearing a turban). Perhaps there is more negative attacks on Republicans because the GOP is playing hard and getting critiqued for doing so?

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

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Washington Post headline today: Issue Of Race Creeps Into Presidential Campaign.


WHAT?


The Obama people ARE INJECTING RACE INTO THE CAMPAIGN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO FUEL RACIAL ANGER IN THEIR CAMPAIGN.


Congressman Lewis is making RACIAL STATEMENTS for the benefit of the Obama campaign and it is sickening to our Democracy.
Seriously.


The Obama Campaign is the one bringing race into the election and that is a FRAUD to Obama's campaign theme of being a Post-Racial candidate - when they run out of things to say - All Obama wants to do is FUEL HIS CAMPAIGN WITH FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


OK.


Obama did this with Bill Clinton in South Carolina. Obama twisted some of Bill Clinton's words around and created a racial furor - Obama denied denied denied that he was injecting Race into the campaign. However Tim Russert confronted Obama with a MEMO FROM OBAMA'S COMMUNICATIONS TEAMS OUTLINING HOW THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WILL BE PUSHING RACE RACE RACE.


Obama did this with Gerry Ferraro. Obama twisted her words around to manufacture a controversy in order to fuel a Racial Campaign to help Obama's campaign.


For Obama, this is a RACIAL CAMPAIGN -


This is a HIGHLY DIVISIVE AND SHAMEFUL WAY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE OUTRAGED.


THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.


Obama is a Disgrace to America. No person should be allowed by the media to get away with manufacturing Racial Issues in order to be fuel their political ambitions.


Obama IS THE RACIAL CANDIDATE RUNNING ON RACE RACE RACE - RUNNING ON DIVIDING DIVIDING DIVING AMERICA.


WAKE UP AMERICA AND SEND THIS AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION DO-NOTHING BOOK-TOUR POST-RACIAL-FRAUD EMPTY-SUIT HOME.


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Washington Post headline today: Issue Of Race Creeps Into Presidential Campaign.


WHAT?


The Obama people ARE INJECTING RACE INTO THE CAMPAIGN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO FUEL RACIAL ANGER IN THEIR CAMPAIGN.


Congressman Lewis is making RACIAL STATEMENTS for the benefit of the Obama campaign and it is sickening to our Democracy.
Seriously.


The Obama Campaign is the one bringing race into the election and that is a FRAUD to Obama's campaign theme of being a Post-Racial candidate - when they run out of things to say - All Obama wants to do is FUEL HIS CAMPAIGN WITH FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


OK.


Obama did this with Bill Clinton in South Carolina. Obama twisted some of Bill Clinton's words around and created a racial furor - Obama denied denied denied that he was injecting Race into the campaign. However Tim Russert confronted Obama with a MEMO FROM OBAMA'S COMMUNICATIONS TEAMS OUTLINING HOW THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WILL BE PUSHING RACE RACE RACE.


Obama did this with Gerry Ferraro. Obama twisted her words around to manufacture a controversy in order to fuel a Racial Campaign to help Obama's campaign.


For Obama, this is a RACIAL CAMPAIGN -


This is a HIGHLY DIVISIVE AND SHAMEFUL WAY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE OUTRAGED.


THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.


Obama is a Disgrace to America. No person should be allowed by the media to get away with manufacturing Racial Issues in order to be fuel their political ambitions.


Obama IS THE RACIAL CANDIDATE RUNNING ON RACE RACE RACE - RUNNING ON DIVIDING DIVIDING DIVING AMERICA.


WAKE UP AMERICA AND SEND THIS AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION DO-NOTHING BOOK-TOUR POST-RACIAL-FRAUD EMPTY-SUIT HOME.


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Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Let it go already!

Posted by: dlennis | October 12, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Could it be because all the media just shows Mccain when he is talking about Obama!! Just watch msnbc and cnn, they are in the toilet for Obama. And do you notice the hateful comments Obama supporters make when you say something about him !! How many commentators are in the toilet for Obama, Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow,Blitzer,O'Brien, Cooper, A. Mitchell, Fineman, Alter and the list goes on!! I'm waiting for msnbc to change there name, Perhaps Obama-Air!! Lets have a contest! And if you make a remark about Obama, you are racist, If you are not voting for Obama, you are racist!! Guess, I'm a racist. Country First!!

Posted by: Sa1950 | October 12, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I think Anonymous broke this page with his long post. Not sure why, but it looks like it shifted the page down.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain has made much out of Obama-Ayers connection but at the same time is silent on Palin's AIP connections. But latter is much more problematic – Why? See below:

1 = ISSUE
2 = OBAMA-AYERS
3 = PALIN-AIP

1= CONNECTION
2= Knew each other
3= Husband member, self supporter

1= CRIME
2= Domestic terrorist
3= Declared Seditionist

1= TACTICAL DAMAGE
2= Bombed Govt buildings
3= Separation of Alaska from union

1= STRATEGIC DAMAGE
2= '000 of $ of govt property, few accidental lives
3= Loss of a state and key petroleum source

1= MOTIVATION
2= Stop Vietnam war
3= Declared hate for “America and its damned institutions”

1= CANDIDATE'S PHYSICAL LOCATION AT THE TIME OF CRIME
2= 8 year old
3= Last 10 years and continued

1= CURRENT ACTIVITIES
2= Professor and education advocate
3= Continuing efforts to secede Alaska

1= MEDIA ATTENTION
2= For 1 year, very heavy in last 1 week
3= Media ignoring this connection

1= CANDIDATE'S RESPONSE TO CRIMES
2= Denounced his Ayer's crimes
3= Silent on husband and self's AIP relationship

1= INVOLVEMENT IN CANDIDATE'S CURRENT DECISIONS
2= No involvement in the presidential campaign and no contact for last 4 years
3= Husband (AIP member) has an active role in government office, contact with staff and influencing decisions. Candidate spoke at AIP convention in 2008 and praised their "good work"

Now tell me which relationship is worse?
And then why is media not asking Palin about this? Demand ANSWERS from these hypocrites!!!!

Posted by: Chill45 | October 12, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be sexist to vote for Palin just because she is a woman? After all the definition of sexism is prejudice, discrimination, or preference based on the grounds of sex. For this reason, Manolete, your argument, to quote an famous alien, "is highly illogical (raise one eyebrow at this point).

Chuckle, honestly - think about it

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin were to run for Governor of Alaska RIGHT NOW, she would certainly loose.

That's the degree to which she has screwed herself in trying to, and screwing others.

Posted by: El Mugroso | October 12, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin is paling into insignificnce as days rolls by.Her ignorance cannot be hidden as she strains every nerve to cover that by her very vulgar rhetoric.She stands out as a very very ordinary individual.She is really a very bad pick by Mccain

Posted by: Gopal | October 12, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

What Palin lacks of : Reasoning, Clarity, Logic, Intelligence, Perception, Willpower, and Diplomacy.
So far McCain/Palin are acting like a blind person with a loaded gun ready to discharge at the World.
We can't afford having someone destructive such as Palin and McCain on the White House now, not anymore not ever.

Posted by: Renegade | October 12, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately the questions being raised by the McCain campaign are being denounced and not answered. This of course, doesn't silence them and the disrespect insures that no one except liberals will listen to the media or be converted to the media point of view. This will lead to continued divisive lack of communication even if Obama wins.

As an American citizen I have a right to know whether Obama was born in Kenya, adopted Islam along with an Islamic name in Indonesia, traveled on an Indonesian passport as a young man and received material assistance from Muslim friends as an undergraduate student and beyond.

I don't think those questions, which are questions of fact, deserve the "Mainstream media trash treatment" they are getting. It would be easier for an investigative reporter to get answers than to try to silence any critics. The questions won't go away, and the cloud surrounding them will linger for a long time.

Posted by: Jobardu | October 12, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Sa1950: MSNBC is for Democrats as Fox is for Republicans (except Fox is a bit worse, they rarely have independent or democratic views).

No one said you're racist for voting for McCain, but (sadly) a lot of his conservative followers tend to be racist moreso than liberals. (Not that all conservatives will be racist!) Take that as you will, but it's a mindset.

McCain's plans favor a) rich businesses because he thinks it'll create jobs, and b) moderately rich people. The end result will be a smaller middle class (more in poverty) and a lower standard of living overall as the richest 1% will benefit most.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a egg sucking dog and to make matters even worst he is a black egg sucking dog

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Not only are you a racist's if you dont vote for Obama, you are now "Unpatriotic". Why are you Obama supporters so afraid of his name,Barack {Barry} "Hussein" Obama. Read his books!! He will have the winds behind there backs!!

Posted by: Sa1950 | October 12, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

We have grown tired of overheated attack campaigning.

Historians will remember 2008 as the year during which dirty campaigning ceased working.

We The People no longer care about spin, smears, lies, distortions and guilt by association campaigns . . .

WHY?

BECAUSE THEY SERVE ONLY ONE PURPOSE . . .

TO DISTRACT US FROM THE ISSUES . . .

"Don't talk about the economy!" Screams the candidate whose party has wrecked the American economy - turning budget surpluses and near-full employment into half trillion dollar deficits and millions of jobs shipped overseas.

"Don't talk about health care!" Screams the candidate who wants to TAX AMERICANS' HEALTH BENEFITS - THE LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN AMERICAN HISTORY - An act that will leave 20 MILLION MORE FAMILIES UNINSURED.

"Don't talk about alternative, domestic sources of energy!" Screams the candidate that has voted over twenty times to BLOCK THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY HERE AT HOME, and SUPPORTS BILLIONS MORE IN TAX CUTS FOR BIG OIL.

BUT Americans are PAYING ATTENTION THIS YEAR.

AND WE'RE IGNORING THE LIES, SMEARS, DISTORTIONS AND SPIN OF THE PARTY WHOSE PHILOSOPHY OF LETTING THE FOXES GUARD THE HEN HOUSE HAS BROUGHT US TO THE BRINK OF ECONOMIC RUIN.

This year it's about the issues.

Obama-Biden '08!!!

Posted by: Arlo Scott Kennedy | October 12, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Last poster, you are INSANE.

Obama has been nothing but classy in this election. It is the McCain/Palin supporters with their racist epithets and accusations that sully our election process. May they lose and lose badly. There is a special place in hell for people of their ilk.

Posted by: Julie | October 12, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Manolete, you sound someone at a McSame-Panic rally.

McCain should have picked a qualified woman for VP. What about Kay Bailey Hutchinson? She has served in the senate and is well qualified. Her home state of Texas is an oil producing state. It also borders Mexico, which by Palin's standards, makes her a foreign policy expert.

I hate to admit it now, but I voted for Bush twice. I hadn't planned to vote Dem but the contrast in candidates is striking. Policy aside; the anger, and erratic campaign on the right, verses the non anxious presence of Obama on the left.

Posted by: Jojo | October 12, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Not only are Obama supporters calling Mccain supporters, Racists, Unpatriotic, and now Insane!! Obama supporters are mean, nasty posters.

Posted by: Sa1950 | October 12, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

hey, manolete

tina fey is united behind palin. lol

btw, in order for palin to understand your messages, you will need to remove the 'g' from any words ending in a 'g', and you will need to wink a lot.

Posted by: MyVoteDoesNotCountInAlabama | October 12, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

McCain may need some checkup for it looks like he believes, in his senior lapses, that he is still a prisoner in Viet-Nam, and actually addresses the crowd as "My fellow PRISONERS.." and DOES NOT even notice his confusion. Is he fit to lead the nation? "Erratic" applied to McCain can be said to be euphemistic.

Sarah Palin just hides her face at that moment. No she does not blink nor wink at all.

Posted by: El Mugroso | October 12, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Checks and Balances are important, but lately, with a house and President who hate each other, we've been getting a whole lot of 'Balancing' done. Aka: Vetos. Aka: Getting nothing done, wasting tax dollars, and causing the people of the U.S. more pain economically. Seems the only way to get things done is anymore is through the Courts.

Also, Sarah Palin is a bible thumping, homophobic, crap spewing, animal killing, red neck slang user who is only liked by a slim majority of Americans BECAUSE SHE IS A GIRL... How shallow can you get in the gene pool? The people who cannot look past gender...who vote for her BECAUSE she is female...those are the real sexists. The last thing we need is a bible thumper in white house. Believe it or not, we have these people who ARE NOT Christians in America (Shocking, isn't it?) We have Jews, we have Muslims, we have Hindus, we have Buddhism, we even have this small group of soulless heathens, myself included, called Atheists. Bout time we move on from a Christian Government.

Ever wonder if the media ISN'T leftist, ya know, maybe... they are actually CORRECT in what they say, Unbiased maybe, and you just cannot accept the truth? The horrible horrible truth that the Right is dragging down the country? Maybe Palin DID abuse her power? Hmm? Yes? No? How bout you consider it and get back to me.

Posted by: Lucas | October 12, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Sa1950: It doesn't help that the post BEFORE yours was racist against Obama. Are you missing that? I'm not saying all Republicans are racist. I do think that most Republicans think less about the issues and more about the feeling of conservatism/tradition in electing a President.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

The country is in a mess because the democrats have had full control of the house for the past 2 years feed by Obama and his democrat buddys it wouldnt supprize me to hear that this crisis was a conspersicy led by fannie mae freddie mac and obama from the begining

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

every time i read something about mccain on blogs, comments, etc. that i have previously never heard, i know its bs. the media is in obamas pocket, and it would be everywhere on the news. i still check it out and wow... its bs.
It doesn't seem hard to me to figure out why mccain is doing so much more attacking. Obama doesn't need to directly attack mccain BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT FOR HIM. ie, this article is a mild attack on mccain. pretty much every one is. mccain has only stations like fox that bash obama, so if he wants anyone to hear the truth about all of obamas bad policies or connection, he either needs to make adds or speak out during debates.

Posted by: dude | October 12, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

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Obama is a egg sucking dog and to make matters even worst he is a black egg sucking dog

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 7:06 PM
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HOW sad to see this type of "understanding" from people that "believe" that "God" created all creatures, and "believe" in a Constitution that says that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.

Posted by: El Mugroso | October 12, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

dude: If you watch Fox and agree that it bashes Obama and favors McCain, you're not really being open minded. That's VERY closed minded. CNN is more balaned than Fox, but I suppose you could confuse them being fair with being more Democratic when Republican's say things that need corrected or remarked upon.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

By not focusing on the issues and running primarily negative attacks, this will only come back to hurt McCain's campaigning. It caters primarily to those who are already in McCain's side.

Posted by: carbon916 | October 12, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama says in his prep meeting to his volunters GET UP IN THEIR FACE AND ARGUE WITH THEM you tell me where this isnt a strong arm tactic in my part of this country you get up in a mans face you better be perpared to be knocked back on you arse

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

mark, i did not say fox is unbaised. i said that they are basically the only major news station which supports mccain. but id have to say that cnn is as far left as fow is right.
cant believe im still on this page and i happened to read a comment directed to me

Posted by: dude | October 12, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

knot4u, its the people like that give republicans a bad name. i encourage you to find faults in obamas policies rather than in his race

Posted by: dude | October 12, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

well the first thing that comes to mind is infancide the cold hearted way to just let born alive baby just lay there and die from no care is that a person that sounds like he has a heart to you if it does that makes 2 of you egg sucking dogs

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

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Washington Post headline today: Issue Of Race Creeps Into Presidential Campaign.


WHAT?


The Obama people ARE INJECTING RACE INTO THE CAMPAIGN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO FUEL RACIAL ANGER IN THEIR CAMPAIGN.


Congressman Lewis is making RACIAL STATEMENTS for the benefit of the Obama campaign and it is sickening to our Democracy.
Seriously.


The Obama Campaign is the one bringing race into the election and that is a FRAUD to Obama's campaign theme of being a Post-Racial candidate - when they run out of things to say - All Obama wants to do is FUEL HIS CAMPAIGN WITH FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


OK.


Obama did this with Bill Clinton in South Carolina. Obama twisted some of Bill Clinton's words around and created a racial furor - Obama denied denied denied that he was injecting Race into the campaign. However Tim Russert confronted Obama with a MEMO FROM OBAMA'S COMMUNICATIONS TEAMS OUTLINING HOW THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WILL BE PUSHING RACE RACE RACE.


Obama did this with Gerry Ferraro. Obama twisted her words around to manufacture a controversy in order to fuel a Racial Campaign to help Obama's campaign.


For Obama, this is a RACIAL CAMPAIGN -


This is a HIGHLY DIVISIVE AND SHAMEFUL WAY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE OUTRAGED.


THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.


Obama is a Disgrace to America. No person should be allowed by the media to get away with manufacturing Racial Issues in order to be fuel their political ambitions.


Obama IS THE RACIAL CANDIDATE RUNNING ON RACE RACE RACE - RUNNING ON DIVIDING DIVIDING DIVING AMERICA.


WAKE UP AMERICA AND SEND THIS AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION DO-NOTHING BOOK-TOUR POST-RACIAL-FRAUD EMPTY-SUIT HOME.


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Washington Post headline today: Issue Of Race Creeps Into Presidential Campaign.


WHAT?


The Obama people ARE INJECTING RACE INTO THE CAMPAIGN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO FUEL RACIAL ANGER IN THEIR CAMPAIGN.


Congressman Lewis is making RACIAL STATEMENTS for the benefit of the Obama campaign and it is sickening to our Democracy.
Seriously.


The Obama Campaign is the one bringing race into the election and that is a FRAUD to Obama's campaign theme of being a Post-Racial candidate - when they run out of things to say - All Obama wants to do is FUEL HIS CAMPAIGN WITH FALSE CHARGES OF RACISM.


OK.


Obama did this with Bill Clinton in South Carolina. Obama twisted some of Bill Clinton's words around and created a racial furor - Obama denied denied denied that he was injecting Race into the campaign. However Tim Russert confronted Obama with a MEMO FROM OBAMA'S COMMUNICATIONS TEAMS OUTLINING HOW THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WILL BE PUSHING RACE RACE RACE.


Obama did this with Gerry Ferraro. Obama twisted her words around to manufacture a controversy in order to fuel a Racial Campaign to help Obama's campaign.


For Obama, this is a RACIAL CAMPAIGN -


This is a HIGHLY DIVISIVE AND SHAMEFUL WAY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE OUTRAGED.


THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.


Obama is a Disgrace to America. No person should be allowed by the media to get away with manufacturing Racial Issues in order to be fuel their political ambitions.


Obama IS THE RACIAL CANDIDATE RUNNING ON RACE RACE RACE - RUNNING ON DIVIDING DIVIDING DIVING AMERICA.


WAKE UP AMERICA AND SEND THIS AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION DO-NOTHING BOOK-TOUR POST-RACIAL-FRAUD EMPTY-SUIT HOME.


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Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Watching the conservative movement implode is not a pretty sight.

Angry mobs shouting racial insults, threatening to kill Mr. Obama etc.

But the bottom line is simple:
We are watching the end of the conservative
movement in America. Good riddance!

As they say in Texas, "Empty Drums Do Make Alot of Noisel"


Posted by: Bob From Rhode Island | October 12, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Verrrrry Long Posts:

Does anyone actually READ them?

Usually they are a diatribe from some

right wing misfit.

Posted by: Bob From Rhode Island | October 12, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion Sarah Palin would be best served going back to Wasilla and taking care of her special needs child which she brought into the world late in life. Her son needs her a lot more than this country does. Aslo now that her 17 year old daughter is due to give birth she would be best spent taking care of her and her impending new born also. She is an absoulte idiot and an embarassement to any educated woman and mother in this country. I would be totally ashamed if she were elected to one of the highest offices of this country. God I so hope people wake up and read through the lines of this woman......I'm almost at the point that I'm ashamed to be the same sex as her....which head was McCain using when he picked her at his running mate. Think of the wealth of educated, experienced people that he could have picked and he picked her, it really makes one sit up and think....doesn't it?

Posted by: Paddy Girl | October 12, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

and they say in wv if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

In many of the above comments it is implied to be a supporter of the president that you must be brain dead, a high school dropout or just totally ignorant...

This is coming from people who would proclaim themselves to be open minded, progressive, well educated and aware of what is going on in the world.

While I do not agree with everything president Bush has done in his eight years, I do know one thing and that is that we have not had any terror attacks in the USA for more than 2600 days.

Also, the recent fall of the economy is hardly due to things he did, but rather things he could not get accomplished due to the democrat majority congress not passing recommendations and warnings he and others issued...

Before anyone starts placing blame on president Bush for the economy they should do some research and realize that the cause is due to several things that even date back to Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Several democrats in the senate are at direct fault and are continuing to cause problems...

As for taxes, it amazes me that the far left believe in socialist wealth redistribution and believe that wealthier people should be taxed at a higher rate, simply because they can afford it. The thing they commonly miss in this or choose to ignore is that taxing wealthier people unfairly is not only wrong, but reduces the money they can use for investment into business which directly affects job growth which then affects collected taxes or more income for the government (the Bush tax cuts did prove this out)...

People seem to be listening to the Obama rhetoric about 95% will not see increased taxes, but the question I commonly ask myself on this is where does a business get the money to pay it's tax burden. The answer is raise the price of their product, so if you use any of those products, then you are paying that tax...

In my opinion the whole tax system needs to be discarded and replaced wit the 'Fair Tax' system.

I do not like war, but it is what it is and does not require debate or blame, we just need to finish/end it properly.

I have supported president Bush on most things, did not like the recent bailout, but then I am one that believes in capitalism instead of socialism.

It also amazes me that most people who blame president Bush of being inept praise president Clinton as though he was the best president in history. Doing just a little honest non-partisan research would show anyone that he did several things wrong besides an overactive sex life and directly lying to the public.

Everyone needs to wake up and take off their partisan goggles and realize that fault of the situation we find ourselves in is not due to a person or just one party.

Also, someone on a site like this making a comment has no warrant to call someone like Sarah Palin ignorant when she has accomplished being the governor of a state and has an extremely high approval rating. As for if she is qualified to be president in a worse case scenario, no one knows and for that matter how can anyone know who is capable until the candidate has been elected and served.

As for me, I did study engineering and had a dislike for liberal professors when I was in college and made several very unhappy with me and received low grades at times due to that, now I am just an average person of moderate means...

So to all that would think I am ignorant or brain dead for supporting president Bush then I say to you why would I support your socialist beliefs...

Posted by: James J | October 12, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

knot4u: "Obama Introduces Preventing Stillbirth and Sudden Unexpected Infant Death Act of 2008."
He was against the bill you're talking about because he felt it was anti-abortion. Here is the summary: "Defines 'born-alive infant' to include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development."
It's worded in a way that can be interpreted based on your beliefs. Some people believe that inception is the start of "being alive." It's anti-abortion and anti-woman's choice. (It didn't make it into law.)
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1095.html

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post's reader reminder: "User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed."

I just read a number of the posts and many of them include very inappropriate language. I was hoping to find readers engaged in spirited discussions, however, many of the posts include foul language coming from all sides of the political spectrum. Where are the thoughtful adults??

Posted by: Harriet Carter | October 12, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding? You want the women of America to unite FOR Palin? I believe that all women in America should unite AGAINST her. Palin gives all US women a bad name. What do you think when other countries see such an idiot on TV spouting her nonsense! Anyone can see she is way out of her league and is intellectually challenged. I do believe, as John McCain's little attack dog, the drool from her mouth is clouding her already clouded brain!

Posted by: Lynn | October 12, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Manolete: So what your proposing is DONT BE SEXIST be RACIST. Well done!

Posted by: Sam | October 12, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion Sarah Palin would be best served going back to Wasilla and taking care of her special needs child which she brought into the world late in life. Her son needs her a lot more than this country does. Aslo now that her 17 year old daughter is due to give birth she would be best spent taking care of her and her impending new born also. She is an absoulte idiot and an embarassement to any educated woman and mother in this country. I would be totally ashamed if she were elected to one of the highest offices of this country. God I so hope people wake up and read through the lines of this woman......I'm almost at the point that I'm ashamed to be the same sex as her....which head was McCain using when he picked her at his running mate. Think of the wealth of educated, experienced people that he could have picked and he picked her, it really makes one sit up and think....doesn't it?

Posted by: Paddy Girl
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Paddy Girl. Shortly after the republican convention McCain made this statement: "Sarah is my partner and my soulmate"!! It is obvious McCain, in his demented mind, sees her as his lover and this is why he picked her after only meeting her ONE time and then announcing to her on her visit to McCain' house (one of about 8 or 9 houses?)he had "chosen" her as his VP. Watch closely when the two campaign together!! McCain spends half his time staring at her posterior and playing with his weddingband. I am serious!! He actually stared at her posterior and plays with his weddingband, and, not only that, he gets this funny little grin like he is euphoric!! Like I said earlier, McCain's mind is deteriorating rather fast!! Recently he addressed his audience as, "my fellow prisoners" and he never corrected himself. McCain is frightening to say the least and his veep is even worse fightening...she may be a somewhat good-looking gal, but it is what lies within her that is important; from what we have seen she a very, very ugly person inside and someone I do not want anywhere near the White House. Neither McCain or Pilan are qualified to lead our country! About the only thing they can lead is their supporters in their rallies by inciting, encouraging, condoning and promoting hatred, bigotry, resentment, and horrific screams of "off with his head!" "kill him!" You know the idiom, "s**t runs downhill". Well, we have seen it in their rallies!!

Posted by: NinaK | October 12, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

HAVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA BEATS NAVY MCCAIN CRASH EVERY PLANE IN INTELLECTUAL DEBATES......

Posted by: NETHERLANDS ANTILLES | October 12, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

manolette, i think you are an angry republican "guy" who is posting the same litany of ignorance under the guise of a "woman". it is sexist how mr. mccain and the republican been using palin. by the way, i'm a two headed martian while on the internet.

Posted by: chancey gardner | October 12, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

The WaPo article today about the Obama and McCain ground game in Virginia tells the tale. The McCain team has nothing left but lies about Obama's religion, ethnicity, background, and positions. The Obama team is organized, energized, and issue-oriented.

Posted by: JohnD | October 12, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

here is something Obama wrote.

Obama once described the white race as "that ghostly figure that haunted black dreams."

"That hate hadn't gone away," he wrote, blaming "white people -- some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives."

After graduating from college, Obama eventually went to Chicago to interview for a job as a community organizer. His racial attitudes came into play as he sized up the man who would become his boss.

"There was something about him that made me wary," Obama wrote. "A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

Posted by: Fred | October 12, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

here something that is in his book Obama wrote.

When he was a community organizer (age 22 prior to going to law school) he happily cooperated with Rafiq, a former gangster turned Nation of Islam. He even believed that Black Nationalism was a "good therapy" for Blacks. That was also the reason he supported Wright ("Dreams...," p. 190-200). For he shares Michelle's sentiments of alienation, came to believe that race should trump everything and it should be anti-white:

Posted by: John | October 12, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

TIME TO RETIRE WITH WHATEVER IS LEFT OF YOUR DIGNITY,AND A GRACEFUL WAR
MONSIEUR MCCAIN.

Posted by: NETHERLANDS ANTILLES | October 12, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Sunday, 07/22, Obama was in South Florida to address the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), the nation's largest Hispanic so-called civil rights group.

La Raza is Spanish for "the race," although NCLR claims it means "community" on their website. La Raza supports legislation such as the Civil Liberties Restoration Act, which would roll back policies adopted after Sept. 11 designed to protect national security. It supports the "DREAM Act," which would mandate states to offer in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens -- thus providing them with benefits not available to U.S. citizens from other states.

Posted by: tracy | October 12, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Reoholmereews | October 12, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

According to Obama, he favors allowing the current tax cuts that brought us out of the economic despair caused by 9/11 to expire as scheduled for Americans earning more than $250,000 a year. He would raise taxes on capital gains and dividends, but in turn promises tax breaks for low and middle-income Americans. Why people think that Obama would be good for our Economy is beyond me, especially since the Clinton administration, including members who became Fannie Mae CEOs earning millions and now advising Obama, got us into the current economic mess with their subprime mortgage schemes (see 30 Sep 1999 NY Times article: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9c0de7db153ef933a0575ac0a96f958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all). Obama has had no executive experience, thus no real understanding of budgets, and he has shown no economic understanding while in the Senate as he constantly voted to raise taxes (i.e. take more of our money).The fact of the matter is that Obama’s economic policies are already having a negative affect on our now fragile Economy, even without being elected. His plans that include raising taxes on capital gains and dividends are exacerbating the current problems in the markets. Investors are hedging their bets that Obama will be elected and will easily implement these policies, given the likely continued Democrat controlled Congress, and are thus on a selling spree so that they are not subject to the potential higher capital gains taxes. Not to mention this is adding to the tax burden of retirees who now are trying to live off of their investments that they worked so hard to accumulate for their latter years. Also, when he raises taxes on “big business” or the “rich,” in the short term they pass the cost on to the consumers, us, the middle class. In the longer-term these policies send more jobs overseas. When he raises taxes on one of us, we all pay the price!

Posted by: Anonymous2008 | October 12, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm saddened by the amount of racism I'm seeing in the posts...this is 2008....

Palin refuses to do interviews, and then has the nerve to start asking questions about Obama. What a hypocrite!!! She won't even release her grades from the 5 colleges she went to, and NO ONE can remember her. Although we wouldn't expect the people of the US to want a "intellectual", we at least want someone who is smart...

She was a mayor of a town which wasn't much bigger than my high school, and has been governor of a state of less than 700K residents. I live in a metropolitan area which is over 6M people.

Being a heartbeat away from the oldest person running for president in history, the American people should be demanding some more information from this relative unknown. All we know is she is mean spirited, likes to have mystery babies, doesn't believe in teaching her children about sex, and doesn't know what magazines and journals she reads...maybe Todd is really running Alaska.


Posted by: Susan | October 12, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

n two months the Obama Campaign has gone from describing the U.S. presidential hopeful as never having been a Muslim and never having been raised as a Muslim to now having never having been a practicing Muslim.

But Muslims do not see practice as key. Islam is patrilineal. For Muslims, that fact that Obama was born to a line of Muslim males makes him born a Muslim. Further, all children born with an Arabic name based on the H-S-N trilateral root (Hussein, Hassan, and others) can be assumed to be Muslim, so they will understand Obama's full name, Barack Hussein Obama, to proclaim him a born Muslim.

Obama's father was a Muslim. Obama's grandfather was a Muslim. Obama's stepfather was a Muslim. Sarah, who Obama calls grandmother is a Muslim. Obama's half-brothers and sisters are Muslims. To Muslims, Obama IS a Muslim, no matter what he says.

Obama's sister Maya was quoted by the New York Times as saying, "My whole family was Muslim." I assume she considers Obama a member of her family. After all, she refers to him as "my brother."

For a time, Obama clearly lived and was educated as a Muslim. Only Obama knows what he is today

Posted by: Steven | October 12, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

As a note: I'm white. I'm not racist. I think you might be verging on racist by just assuming he is: his book was about the plague of racism in Chicago.
Now, onto your quotes: The "ghostly figure" was directed at all men, but to which whites are the center. It and the 2nd quote you gave are in the same paragraph. He said that the hate is in all men. Keep in mind he was a community organizer about 20 years ago. Racism was still very rampant back then.
The full quote:
"The stories that I had been hearing from the leadership, all the records of courage and sacrifice and overcoming of great odds, hadn’t simply arisen from struggles with pestilence or drought, or even mere poverty. They had arisen out of a very particular experience with hate. That hate hadn’t gone away; it formed a counternarrative buried deep within each person and at the center of which stood white people-some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives. I had to ask myself whether the bonds of community could be restored without collectively exorcising that ghostly figure that haunted black dreams. Could Ruby love herself without hating blue eyes?"

Also, the fact he observed that his boss was white wasn't as simple as you make it seem. You misquoted him by leaving off the end (and most notable):
"There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white---he'd said himself that was a problem."


If you're going to quote propaganda, please search google and make sure you're not lying by omission.

Posted by: Fred | October 12, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

As a note: I'm white. I'm not racist. I think you might be verging on racist by just assuming he is: his book was about the plague of racism in Chicago.
Now, onto your quotes: The "ghostly figure" was directed at all men, but to which whites are the center. It and the 2nd quote you gave are in the same paragraph. He said that the hate is in all men. Keep in mind he was a community organizer about 20 years ago. Racism was still very rampant back then.
The full quote:
"The stories that I had been hearing from the leadership, all the records of courage and sacrifice and overcoming of great odds, hadn’t simply arisen from struggles with pestilence or drought, or even mere poverty. They had arisen out of a very particular experience with hate. That hate hadn’t gone away; it formed a counternarrative buried deep within each person and at the center of which stood white people-some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives. I had to ask myself whether the bonds of community could be restored without collectively exorcising that ghostly figure that haunted black dreams. Could Ruby love herself without hating blue eyes?"

Also, the fact he observed that his boss was white wasn't as simple as you make it seem. You misquoted him by leaving off the end (and most notable):
"There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white---he'd said himself that was a problem."


If you're going to quote propaganda, please search google and make sure you're not lying by omission.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh! freedom of speech. It's like the Internet. It can be very helpful and insightful, or extremely hurtful and damaging.

Posted by: spence | October 12, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

i just read your post and seems to me that you just proved against yourself that Obama hates whites

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

To James J at 6:42pm: I am 100% "in the tank" for the O-Bomb and I think McCain/Palin's personal attacks are scurrilous and dumb. But your comment has my respect, and I thank you for it. It is the type of thoughtful, respectful discourse we need more of from both sides.

Posted by: Cabin John | October 12, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Republicans, meet the scary wingnut cousins that Palin has brough out of the closset.

Here is the difference between conservatives and wingnuts:

-- going to conservative church VS going to church that speaks in tongues or believes in which craft

-- opposing abortion VS throwing blood at women entering abortion clinics

-- owning a handgun VS owning a submachine gun


Those are the wingnuts, and Palin has brought them to the middle of the Republican party.

Enjoy.

Posted by: newbie | October 12, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

knot4u: The book is about how he was trying to overcome the racism in Chicago (both against whites and blacks) in the 1980s. Chicago had a lot of problems with (mostly) white cops abusing their power (caused riots in the 1960s and problems for a long time). It also had problems with racism against whites as it was predominately black. I don't know how it's racist for him to say how challenging a mission it is to stop racism in Chicago. His boss said he thought being white was a problem because the "community organizer" position was to help stop racism, violence, and crime in a predominately black community (Chicago).

I guess if you are racist you would rather just be racist and point out that he's black and has problems with whites that are being racist.

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

kennedy one of the most respected if not the most respected man in politics just endorsed MCcain

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

but he wrote he had a problem becase the man was white racist cuts both ways

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

knot4u: You mean Republican state Treasurer John Kennedy that's running for Senator in Louisiana (a majority Republican state)?

How does that quantify him as the most respected man in politics?

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Also, knot4u, he said he was wary about the fact he was white. This was because the goal was to eliminate racism in the community, you can be wary (cautious) of someone without being racist/having a problem with them.

You really don't seem to grasp the problem that was in Chicago at the time. If that boss had been racist himself, it would have been a severe hurdle for Obama to try to help fix the problem. If he were being racist, he wouldn't have been trying to FIX the problem of racism (both racism against whites and racism against blacks).

Posted by: Mark | October 12, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

take my word for it Ted Kenndy is the most repected man in washington

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: IodineeNove | October 12, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

but because the man was white he obama didnt think that the man would be fair which amounts to the same thing as being racist

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

A Wasted Vote
by Rep. Chuck Baldwin
October 10, 2008


When asked why they will not vote for a third party candidate, many people will respond by saying something like, "He cannot win." Or, "I don't want to waste my vote." It is true: America has not elected a third party candidate since 1860. Does that automatically mean, however, that every vote cast for one of the two major party candidates is not a wasted vote? I don't think so.

In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."

Albert Einstein is credited with saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. For years now, Republicans and Democrats have been leading the country in the same basic direction: toward bigger and bigger government; more and more socialism, globalism, corporatism, and foreign interventionism; and the dismantling of constitutional liberties. Yet, voters continue to think that they are voting for "change" when they vote for a Republican or Democrat. This is truly insane!

Take a look at the recent $850+ Billion Wall Street Bailout: both John McCain and Barack Obama endorsed and lobbied for it. Both McCain and Obama will continue to bail out these international banksters on the backs of the American taxpayers. Both McCain and Obama support giving illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship. In the debate this past Tuesday night, both McCain and Obama expressed support for sending U.S. forces around the world for "peacekeeping" purposes. They also expressed support for sending combat forces against foreign countries even if those countries do not pose a threat to the United States. Neither Obama nor McCain will do anything to stem the tide of a burgeoning police state or a mushrooming New World Order. Both Obama and McCain support NAFTA and similar "free trade" deals. Neither candidate will do anything to rid America of the Federal Reserve, or work to eliminate the personal income tax, or disband the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Both Obama and McCain support the United Nations. So, pray tell, how is a vote for either McCain or Obama not a wasted vote?

But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win.

With only three weeks before the election, Barack Obama is pulling away. McCain has already pulled his campaign out of Michigan. In other key battleground states, McCain is slipping fast. He was ahead in Missouri; now it is a toss-up or leaning to Obama. A couple of weeks ago, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida were all leaning towards McCain, or at least toss-up states. Now, they are all leaning to Obama. Even the longtime GOP bellwether state of Indiana is moving toward Obama. In addition, new voter registrations are at an all-time high, and few of them are registering as Republicans. In fact, the Republican Party now claims only around 25% of the electorate, and Independents are increasingly leaning toward Obama.

Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama is headed for an electoral landslide victory over John McCain. John McCain can no more beat Barack Obama than Bob Dole could beat Bill Clinton.

I ask, therefore, Are not conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain guilty of the same thing that they accuse people who vote for third party candidates of doing? Are they not voting for someone who cannot win? Indeed, they are. In fact, conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain are not only voting for a man who cannot win, they are voting for a man who does not share their own beliefs and principles. If this is not insanity, nothing is!

So, why not (for once in your life, perhaps) cast a vote purely for principle! Vote for someone who is truly pro-life. Someone who would quickly secure our nation's borders, and end the invasion of our country by illegal aliens. Someone who would, on his first day in office, release Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean and fire U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. Someone who would immediately, upon assuming office, begin leading the charge to dismantle the Federal Reserve, overturn the 16th Amendment, expunge the IRS, and return America to sound money principles. Someone who would get the US out of the UN. Someone who would stop spending billions and trillions of dollars for foreign aid. Someone who would prosecute the Wall Street bankers who defrauded the American people out of billions of dollars. Someone who would work to repeal NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and stop the NAFTA superhighway. Someone who would say a resounding "No" to the New World Order. Someone who would stop using our brave men and women in uniform as global cops for the United Nations. Someone who would stop America's global adventurism and interventionism. Someone who would steadfastly support and defend the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

"Who is this person?" you ask. Go here to find out:

http://www.baldwin08.com/

As John Quincy Adams said, "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

ok sorry it was john kennedy not Ted

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Who said Obama started all this racism crap? It is not Obama who is inciting racism and anger at his rallies. It is actually Sarah( I have been cleared of all wrong doing in Troopergate) Palin. I have not seen her say hey wait a minute people you are gone to far when the crowds starts saying kill him, kill Obama or calls him a terrorist. It was Palin that accused him of palling around with terrorist. McCain appears to have at least said something. But I now wonder if they were plants. If he didn't then that would make him and Sarah Palin racist know wouldn't it?

But that has nothing to do with this article. Basically the bottom line is Obama remains focused on the issues. The issues is what is important to people. Especially the economy. Many Americans who were around during the depression are now dead. Even my parents were born after the depression. So to us this is unknown. We only know what we read about or these day google about. Of course we are scared?

While McCain focuses his energy on attacking Obama, Obama remains on the high road and continues to talk about the issues that we Americans are concerned about. He is the one who is ready to lead. He has already shown by his example he has.
McCain's message is we want to win. It says we don't care about the issues. The GOP.com bus doesn't say victory for nothing. Their message we will do anything and say anything to win. We will do anything and say anything to prevent an African American man from becomimg President. In secret I wonder how many of them are saying my grandaddy would roll over in his grave at the thought of an African American being President? You know it is true. Not all Republicans are like this. But there are some. Palin I believe is one of them. She comes from people who believe their God is the right God. A God who says only what they do is right and everyone else is wrong.

Well the last time I checked God was neither a Republican or a Democrat. Last time I checked he gave his son for all of us, not just the select few. The last time I checked God loves all of us despite ourselves. Most of all God is color blind. We all are the same in his eyes. Thank God. Too bad we can't see people like he does.

Posted by: bjlopez1130 | October 12, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Who said Obama started all this racism crap? It is not Obama who is inciting racism and anger at his rallies. It is actually Sarah( I have been cleared of all wrong doing in Troopergate) Palin. I have not seen her say hey wait a minute people you are gone to far when the crowds starts saying kill him, kill Obama or calls him a terrorist. It was Palin that accused him of palling around with terrorist. McCain appears to have at least said something. But I now wonder if they were plants. If he didn't then that would make him and Sarah Palin racist know wouldn't it?

But that has nothing to do with this article. Basically the bottom line is Obama remains focused on the issues. The issues is what is important to people. Especially the economy. Many Americans who were around during the depression are now dead. Even my parents were born after the depression. So to us this is unknown. We only know what we read about or these day google about. Of course we are scared?

While McCain focuses his energy on attacking Obama, Obama remains on the high road and continues to talk about the issues that we Americans are concerned about. He is the one who is ready to lead. He has already shown by his example he has.
McCain's message is we want to win. It says we don't care about the issues. The GOP.com bus doesn't say victory for nothing. Their message we will do anything and say anything to win. We will do anything and say anything to prevent an African American man from becomimg President. In secret I wonder how many of them are saying my grandaddy would roll over in his grave at the thought of an African American being President? You know it is true. Not all Republicans are like this. But there are some. Palin I believe is one of them. She comes from people who believe their God is the right God. A God who says only what they do is right and everyone else is wrong.

Well the last time I checked God was neither a Republican or a Democrat. Last time I checked he gave his son for all of us, not just the select few. The last time I checked God loves all of us despite ourselves. Most of all God is color blind. We all are the same in his eyes. Thank God. Too bad we can't see people like he does.

Posted by: bjlopez1130 | October 12, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

ill vote for mccain if that means my vote is wasted then so be it. besides i havent heard any fat lady singiing yet

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

If failin Palin becomes vice president, will both she and her hillbilly hubby need to be sworn in, so he can sit her VP chair on the rare occasion that she tends to the kids? Or will they get a nanny and both have chairs in the office? What about in the senate?

Posted by: Steve Osterday | October 12, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

For those who think Obama need be PERFECT in evey nuance, get a grip.
Obama is a gifted, hardworking and sincere young leader. Do not look a gift horse in the mouth.
No he doesn't fit your DREAM of a perfect leader, nor should he.
He is smart enough not to be an Uncle Tom, nor a Black Power activist.
He hasn;t been around long enough to carry the baggage of a Mccain (Keating 5, De Regulating republican, sometimes maverick and now butt ikissing Populist).

Nor is he, like Mccain, a spoiled brat from a privileged heritage who had a chip the size of Manhattan on his shoulder; who scoffed at responsibility and jumped at too many chances to offend.

Barak didn't choose his name or the color of his skin.

He did choose to make the most of his talents and serve his community and country.

If we allow the WORST of our society's aspects (hate,fear, bigotry) to continue to hold the reins of power, we continue our downward spiral.

Why aren't more jumping on the bandwagon for change?
FEAR, Hate, Bigotry;
With all the info and media (internet etc) there is no excuse for IGNORANCE.

Definition of Insanity: Doing the McSame and Expecting Change.

Posted by: ukeman | October 12, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

WOMEN OF AMERICA:

Show the WORLD that we are not going to be fooled by the unfounded smears from McSame/Failin.

Palin does NOT stand for women!!

She is against a woman's right to choose.

She even made rape victims pay for their own rape kit in Alaska!

She is NOT ready to lead.

She is a race-baiting fear mongering neo-con wannabe.

She was found GUILTY of ETHICS VIOLATION by a bi-partisan committee(8 Republicans 4 Democrats)

Palin is no Hillary Clinton!

WOMEN OF AMERICA FOR OBAMA

Posted by: WOMEN OF AMERICA FOR OBAMA! | October 12, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin, McCain supporters : check the facts !!!

Your hate propaganda will not work this time !!!!

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/790/

Posted by: tod | October 12, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

i see just as much hate coming from the obama crowd in these blogs as i see from mccain matter of fact i saw it first from the obama crowd i dont like obamas polices and ill never vote for him and not just because he is black i voted for jessie jackson years ago i dont trust obama and i think you people that are for obama will be sorry for the brainwashing youve allowed him to do to you not counting how much more that his term would drag this country down we aint whiped yet but we will be if he gets into office

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

The "good Christians" Palin and McCain certainly don't seem to be acting very Christian.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

The best Sarah Palin Impersonators, see clips of them very funny vote for your favorite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMebGbcC2Sg

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

the first part of that post was from fact check the rest was just political statements from obamas crowds lying again trying to build it up to sound like they want it to read

Posted by: knot4u | October 12, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

My friends, I'm sorry, but I'm just running out of fresh BS. Since this is a change election, I had to change my BS. But the new BS isn't working as well as the old BS, so I'm going back to my original BS.

My friends, in case I forgot to mention it, I waa a POW.

Posted by: McCain_08 | October 13, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

No wonder the liberal elites are able to manipulate average voters into thinking that Obama is Mr Clean. He's run almost as negative a campaign as McCain! And the only reason McCain has had to run a negative campaign is that the media haven't been doing any serious investigation into Obama. Everything about Palin was subjected to instant scrutiny. Why is it taking so long for Obama's New Party affiliation to surface? Why is it taking so long for people to put together a pattern of unhealthy associations? Obama isn't a terrorist or a preacher of hate, but he pushes a policy platform that those guys are comfortable with and he's using guilt to make Americans think he's the only one who can bring healing and reconciliation to the world. He hasn't done it in Chicago or anywhere else - he's the most liberal senator in the United States! How post-partisan is that? McCain has a proven record on that. Americans need to read more. It's pretty obvious that you're about to inflict a terrible leader onto yourselves and the rest of the world. Obama's words and actions are not consistent, nor are his past associations consistent with what he says he will do for the country. Where are the conservative backers coming out to say how he worked with them and was very reasonable about it? Obama is a brilliant reader of speeches but there have been plenty of great speechmakers who have led their countries into ruin.

Posted by: Rob | October 13, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Someone please tell McCain the fat lady's singing .... His party's over. "GOODNIGHT"

Posted by: SadAmerican | October 13, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Obama is not eligible to be president. He is NOT US born. His lawyers are trying to "stay disclosure" of his documents. He has to answer to a judge soon. See this for details.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Posted by: transmutant | October 13, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

No, Obama was born in Hawaii, which is in the US.

It's McCain who was born outside of the US, in Panama.

Posted by: Cindy | October 13, 2008 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Knot,Rob,trannymutant..do some research for yourself,I would suggest snopes.com,factcheck.org where you can learn all about the hoaxes you are continuing to talk about as facts. Yes,it is true, there has been a large amount of scrutiny on Palin. She could have laid some misgivings to rest had she done press conferences, talked freely with reporters and answered some serious policy questions at the beginning.(like all other vp's have always done) I would like to know much more about her husband's membership in an anti-American Alaskan group. Palin has spoken at the group meetings. This is a valid question. I am not attacking anyone, I would just like some forthcoming answers. The Obamas have both answered tough questions for almost 2 yrs now, and answered them with grace and openness. They are a shining example of what we need in the White House.

Posted by: radio3142 | October 13, 2008 5:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: transmutant | October 13, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

If you take away the media hype, maybe then you could have a decent view of each candidate and who they are. McCain's team is just trying to get a moment maybe 2 seconds of the media's attention. Meanwhile if Obama sneezes it's 24/7 coverage of it. It is a shame how it is making people so angry and mean. Look how much anger is displayed here.

McCain is covering the items America wants to discuss but do you see him on the news, no. Obama just talks about change, oh change in taxes change in healthcare. Wait a minute we are trying to bail out the economy there is not going to be any changes on either front in the next 4 years who ever is president.

If you were leaning to a candidate, stick with it, they have not changed, if you don't like one side or the other fine that is your right and you can vote it.

But if you think the President has made the troubles that exist today - war, economy, housing, you need to look at how the goverment works. Congress must approve all actions, so if you are unhappy make changes in the elected officals here - that will make a change.

Obama choosing to take all of this money considering the economy is in such poor shape - people saying they cannot afford their homes, cars, food. Should be encouraging people to spend the money wisely and not run a 1/2 hour program about himself. But he continues to spend and spend and take and take, sound familar to you - like the mess from the financial institutions.

The main goal of this comment is to get people to help one another not fight and to get the economy on a upwards while slow swing there.

Posted by: T | October 13, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is an embarrassment to all women and a clear example of the Republican Party's sexism, in that they obviously think this is the most you could expect from a female candidate: little experience in government and the world (in her own words: she has only been at this for 5 weeks), poorly informed about critical issues, and questionable higher education with poor academic achievement. Add to that her abuse of power while Governor of Alaska. It is frightening that she doesn’t even know enough to know that she doesn’t know enough.

Posted by: suseast | October 13, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

T: You keep going back and forth between loathing Obama and saying "I'm trying to be fair."

McCain isn't the worst person that could be President, however his campaign is very dirty (to the point of past hardcore Republican *friends* going to Obama's side). I think his attitude towards creating jobs (his main idea for improving the economy) won't work as expected: pushing more and more money into corporate pockets is just going to cause stinginess, not expand job markets. Look at the banking market - they were allowed to create more debt by credit/loans, and now they're in more trouble than ever.

Palin is very mysterious, but the facts she has put out there are very scary. It scares me when a politician says, "I won't answer the questions you want me to answer, but I'd like to talk about..." (And that was just a debate - not even a press conference!)

Posted by: Mark | October 13, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Women of America Unite!
Wow! That's scary! Not that us women should unite to press for the issues that most concern us.
It's scary, because that title/organization's name is just a paraphrase of Karl Marx's maxim in "Das Kapital".
Let's be clear: it is the new Marxists, Leninists and Stalinists, the tyrants of America, those who attack everyone that does not squarely think like themselves, that want us to vote for the McCain-S.Palin ticket.
It comes as no surprise that those who copy Marx are for supporting S. Palin. Probably they long for the similarities in the names S.Palin and Stalin.
Women of America see through the Stalinist/SPalinist strategy of smearing the opponents noto to deal with the real issues affecting our homes and families. This election is about issues (about jobs, mortgages, consumer confidence, freedom from others imposing their views on us, and, above all, truth), about the ideals of democracy we inherited from the founding fathers.
This election is not about the Stalinist/SPalinist tactics of hiding the truth behind lies, smearing or bullying. S.Palin should go back to Russian America (Alaska's former name) and face the charges of abuse and corruption, and all the mess she has left behind.

Posted by: Catherine | October 16, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

And ... by the way. The "Women of America Unite" coment was posted by Manolete. "Manolete" is a diminutive of "Manolo", the Spanish nickname for men called "Manuel". No wonder why the person who posted the comment has no clue as to what women care for. It's a man.
Manolete is the stage name of a famous Spanish bull fighter. No wonder why this guy sticks with SPalin: Manolete enjoyed killing bulls with his sword; SPalin enjoys shooting cariboo and moose, and depleting the habitat of other Species in American ex-Russia.

Posted by: Catherine | October 16, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama and his political operative David Axelrod (someone who apparently has studied Karl Rove strategies quite earnestly) have stealthly swift-boated John McCain as they did Hillary abnd Bill Clinton during the primary. The Obama Campaign has unleased an awesome number --mind-boggling -- of political ads that are quite sophisticted and clever in seemingly promoting issues while in fact subtly knocking the opponent. Axelrod is a PR genuis and these Obama ads are exemplary propaganda pieces and are working masterfully to promote Obama as a charismatic leader and McCain as a Bush surrogate. And the Obama campaign is getting an extra boost from the mainstream media which for some reason feels obliged to negatively focus on the opponents and ignore or go lightly on Obama. The Obama-struck media reinforces this belief that McCain is negative and lsoing and Obama is positive and winning. It is all propaganda and it is working. Quite impressive, indeed brilliant. Study this well young Karl Rovians, let David Axelrod be your new Master. Obama is looking more and more like Ronald Reagan's heir or is it air apparent.

Posted by: Kathy | October 16, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Women of America Unite - Sarah Palin is not Vice President. She is a candidate for Vice President. There is, I would point out, a difference.

What McCain should have done was have her give the keynote speech at the convention, get everyone to sit up and ask about her, and give her a few years to become a star with substance. Like it or not, her presence on the ticket drags McCain further away from his maverick claim. He sold out yet again to the right. (Oh, by the way you anti-eloquencers - you can't have a TEAM OF MAVERICKS. I'm just saying....)

Sarah is probably a very nice person and, like any good girl, she does what she's told to do.

Posted by: MiriamC | October 16, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Of course McCain has to attack - the MSM isn't investigating Obama's flaws so McCain has to. Sadly though, Obama is getting away with his lies about being post-racial and post-partisan even though he is only marginally less negative than McCain. And because Obama broke his campaign finance promise, he is spending a lot more and advertising a lot more, in absolute terms he must be putting out more negative ads than McCain. Why won't someone in the media make this point?

Posted by: Rob | October 17, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

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