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Obama and McCain Remain Popular; Palin Unfavs Top 50

Today's Washington Post-ABC News daily tracking poll has Barack Obama up nine points among likely voters, 53 to 44 percent. Since the first release on Monday, Obama's advantage has fluctuated between nine and 11.

Also in today's data , both Obama and John McCain sport high favorability ratings. So too does Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden.

By contrast, ratings for GOP No. 2 Sarah Palin continue to slump. In each Post-ABC poll since the GOP convention, Palin's negatives have gone up among likely voters. Just after the party's nomination convention, 29 percent of likely voters held unfavorable views of Palin; in the new poll that is up to 51 percent.

We've posted a story detailing this dramatic shift, and some of the data follow.

Q: Regardless of how you might vote, do you 
have a favorable or unfavorable impression of 
Sarah Palin?
Likely voters:
             Fav   Unfav
Now          46     51
Late Sept.   52     41
Mid-Sept.    52     39
Post-convo.  59     29
             Fav   Unfav
Now          41     56
Post-convo.  59     33
White Women:
             Fav   Unfav
Now          48     48
Post-convo.  69     24
Independent Women:
             Fav   Unfav
Now          40     59
Post-convo.  64     27

By Jon Cohen  |  October 24, 2008; 5:00 PM ET
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What's interesting about this poll is that McCain is gaining a larger percentage of votes from his own party. When you started this poll five days ago, McCain was getting 84% support from reps. That has increased nearly every day and is now (at 88%) virtually at the same level as Obama's support from dems (at 89%). Enthusiastic or not, reps will vote for McCain. Given Obama's popularity among dems I'm very surprised he hasn't reached the 92-94% threshhold that Bush reached with his own party.

I'll ask again since you haven't answered my other comments, what is your model for likely voters and is it different from the model you used in 2004? The fact that your poll numbers are nearly identical for likely and registered voters, when in prior years they have been different, leads me to believe that you've expanded your likely voter model as Gallup did.

Gallup is now publishing its traditional and expanded poll. If you have both, when will you be publishing both?

I also don't think it's realistic to expect 7-9 points in favor of dems in any poll. Combined with an expanded likely voter model, you may be overstating Obama's lead. I believe he's leading but not by nine points.

Posted by: SAM13 | October 24, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Like SAM13, I'd like to hear more about the survey's methodology.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 24, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama is only up in the polls because the media about his birthplace are hiding the REAL TRUTH. A story yesterday reported that Obama and his campaign and the Federal Elections Committee (FEC)is SUING him because he is not authorized to be President. The article states the person suing says he was not born in America and the U.S.Constitution CLEARLY states in the President of the US must be a "Natural born citizen".
So why don't you report the truth? Please. He cannot be president if he was not born here. End of Discussion!

Posted by: anotherperspective11 | October 24, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama has many enduring qualities but I think that his calm demeanor wraps the package. What is it about this man that keeps him so balanced and calm. .............

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 24, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

He was born in Hawaii. He is young enough that HI had already become a state. He IS a citizen.

Posted by: Daniel18 | October 24, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

While the two Presidential candidates now are getting about the same amount of support from their own partisans, you have to remember that Democrats now have a sizable party-id advantage in the electorate that they didn't have in 2000/2004. In both of those elections, the D/R party id split was within a couple points. Now Democrats have a 6-10 point advantage nationally in party id, depending upon which poll you use. There are more Democrats out there than Republicans right now, so it only stands to reason that if the two candidates get equal proportions of support from their own partisans and split the independent vote, the Democrat wins.

To win, McCain needs to pick off a much larger proportion of Democrats than he loses of Republicans, or he needs to win the lion's share (60%+) of Independents, or some combination of winning somewhat more Democrats and winning decisively among Independents. Neither is likely to happen.

While I think the 9-11 point leads being shown in most National polls this week represents a best-case Democratic scenario, I think in the end Obama will finish with a 5-8 point advantage in the popular vote. Assuming that 2% of the vote will wind up going to other candidates, leaving 98% to be divided between the two major candidates. I expect we will wind up with either a 52-46 or 53-45 split.

Posted by: OHIOCITIZEN | October 24, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: anotherperspective11 | October 24, 2008 6:24 PM

Obama is only up in the polls because the media about his birthplace are hiding the REAL TRUTH. A story yesterday reported that Obama and his campaign and the Federal Elections Committee (FEC)is SUING him because he is not authorized to be President. The article states the person suing says he was not born in America and the U.S.Constitution CLEARLY states in the President of the US must be a "Natural born citizen".

Yes - the person suing him says that - a Hillary Clinton supporter who is still pushing (for many months now) to get her on the ticket instead. Here is a story I found about the FEC and the lawsuit:

FEC joins call to throw out suit against Obama:,0,491023.story

The FEC is working WITH Obama trying to get the suit thrown out. A little different than them suing him!

Posted by: nhardy | October 24, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

In the primarys, Obama's lead was underpolled by nearly 20%.

Bill O'Rilley is now accusing Nielsen of skewing the rating because Faux News and he specifically is sliding badly in comparison to MSNBC.

There is a sea change happening, don't kid yourself.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 24, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

to anotherperspective1;

Please check your facts. Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. You should not be spreading around lies. It is fair nor correct.

Posted by: cbfg | October 24, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

to anotherperspective1

You should check your facts. Obama was born In Hawaii. You should be spreading around lies. It is not correct nor fair.

Posted by: cbfg | October 24, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Search and find the truth.

John McCain was born in Panama Canal, Panama

So who really was not born in American?

Sarah Palin (Born in Sandpoint, Idaho, 02/11/1964) Religion: Charismatic Education: Five different colleges, until finally getting a BA Communications and Journalism University of Idaho 1987.

John McCain (Born in Panama Canal, Panama, 08/29/1936) Religion: Episcopalian, who for 10 years attends a Baptist Church. Education: National War College 1973 to 1974, received a BA U.S. Naval Academy 1958.

Barack Obama (Born in Honolulu, Hawaii, 08/04/1961) Religion: Church of Christ. Education: JD Harvard Law School 1991, BA Columbia University 1983, and attended Occidental College.

Joe Biden (Born In Scranton, Pennsylvania, 11/20/1942) Religion: Roman Catholic. Education: JD Syracuse University of Law 1968, BA History and Political Science University of Delaware 1972

Sarah Palin on a mission from God.

Find the Facts on who has a Pastor(s) in Her closet.

Sarah Louise Heath-Palin (Born in Sandpoint, Idaho) while growing up and for decades attended the Wasilla Assembly of God Church. Changed to the Wasilla Bible Church in 2002. She still has contact with the Wasilla Assembly of God Church.

Why after her nomination as John McCain's VP candidate has she not talked about the Pastors and churches that have shaped her personal world views?

Was it because of Sarah Palins association with a certain Pastor Thomas Muthee? What about Pastor Ed Kalnins? or Pastor Todd Stafford? or Pastor Scott Phillips or Evangelist Jayme Montera or Pastor Woody Woodson and others.

Search and find this to all be true

Posted by: gauthor | October 24, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: taosdjs | October 24, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

John McCain born at Colon Hospital, Panama

The Senate declared John McCain to be able to legally run or be elected President.

However if he did win his Presidency could be legally overturned.

Read the Facts

Posted by: gauthor | October 24, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

The latest Giuliani robo call is almost recordbreaking in its sleaziness. It claimed, completely falsely, that Obama is against mandatory jail time for child molesters, rapists, and murders. It turns my stomach to see the despicable libel and slander to which the Republicans have turned.

Senator Goldwater's granddaughter and the rest of his descendants have endorsed Obama because they can't stomach the sleaziness of the Republican campaign or the philosophy of the 'new' Republicans-today's Republican party is nothing like the Republican party of Goldwater, Rockefeller, and Eisenhower. George W. Bush and Karl Rove have turned a fiscally conservative, socially moderate, small government party into a disgusting machine for the looting of the taxpayers by well connected big businesses like Halliburton and Bechtel. They favor intrusion into private matters such as whether or not a woman should get an abortion, and Palin favors the end of separation of Church and State. McCain clearly would give us more of the same as the current Administration. Their incompetence has given us huge budget deficits and a catastrophic failure of the banking and finance system. No wonder traditional Republicans like George Will and Secretary Powell are leaving the party in droves. The new Republican party's motto should be, "Not your father's Republican Party -Unfortunately!" Vote Obama for a return to sanity and responsibility.

Posted by: steelsil2 | October 24, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Bay Buchanan, a staunch Republican, just said that John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin for VP may be the best decision he's made! (Larry King Live)
God help us if that is John McCain's best decision.

Posted by: BakedAlaska1 | October 24, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

From the NY Times, 2/28/08:

"Mr. McCain was born on a military installation in the Canal Zone, where his mother and father, a Navy officer, were stationed."

A U.S. military installation could arguably qualify as 'native born' territory. Besides, I don't think McCain haters want to cast aspersions on his father's military service to this country that led to McCain being born in Panama in the first place.

I too am interested in the methodology for this poll and would appreciate more Gallup-like transparency.

Posted by: investigate | October 24, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

She's still fooling 46% of the people polled?

Posted by: mortified469 | October 25, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse


Could you possibly be any more misinformed and/or clueless? I mean, I can certainly understand being that you are a john McCain supporter -- god knows it takes a certain level of cognitive dysfunction to see past the old curmudgeon's vitriolic rhetoric, incredible hypocrisy, doublespeak, flip-flopping, and complete lack of reasoned judgment.

Anyways, besides the fact that you are playing semantics with the meaning of the constitution, the irony of the situation is that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, and it's actually John McCain who was born outside the United States!!! He was born in the Panama!

Posted by: wpfree | October 25, 2008 4:08 AM | Report abuse

Bad enough she used her office for a personal issue, but when you consider creationism, what do you think of banning books, AIP, laughing with and honoring a vile radio misogynist, replacing Monegan with a masher, naivete on issues, her true religion and true Americans, her terrorist Obama, 19 million deficit as mayor, the Pebble mine, appointing cronies over talent, non-belief in global warming and endangered species, poor academic college record, and praying for a pipeline, I wonder why she is polling this high.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 25, 2008 4:45 AM | Report abuse


Friday, October 24, 2008 4:16 PM
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman

A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers.

The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States. It demands that Obama’s lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen.

Berg's suit and allegations have set off a wave of Internet buzz and rumors, though Obama could easily have put the matter to rest by providing the federal court with the basic documentation proving he is eligible to take the oath of a president. But Obama has apparently decided to deny the court and the public that documentation.

The Constitution provides that any U.S. citizen is eligible to become president if the person is 35 years of age or older and is a natural-born citizen; that is, born in the territorial United States.

By failing to respond to the Request for Admissions and Request for the Production of Documents within 30 days, Obama has “admitted” that he was born in Kenya, Berg stated this week in new court filings.

Berg released a long list of “admissions” he submitted to Obama’s lawyers on Sept. 15, and asked that they produce documents relating to Obama’s place of birth and citizenship.

Instead of responding, lawyers for Obama and the DNC asked the court to dismiss the case. But Judge R. Barclay Surrick of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania has issued no ruling in the case that would have given Obama’s lawyers more time.

“There are lots of legal ways to stonewall,” a well-placed Republican attorney told Newsmax, who was not authorized to comment officially on the case. “But failing to respond is not one of them.”



Posted by: cingi | October 25, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

see thats all republicans are talking about negativity tabout obama while skirting all the real issues concerning this country, you don't see democratic smear campaigns into palin and hubby's ties to those who wnted no onger for alaska to be taxed or even part of the us

Posted by: amorillo1 | October 25, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Judge rejects Montco lawyer's bid to have Obama removed from ballot
Philadelphia Daily News 215-854-2656

A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.
Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.

Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.

He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg's request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.

Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.

They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.

Surrick agreed.

In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.

Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and Berg's arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."

For example, Berg had claimed that Obama's nomination deprived citizens of voting for Sen. Hillary Clinton in November. (Berg backed Clinton in the primaries.)

Berg could not be reached for comment last night.

Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, and the campaign posted a document issued by Hawaii on its Web site, fight, confirming his birth there.

Berg said in court papers that the image was a forgery.

The nonpartisan Web site examined the original document and said it was legitimate.

Further, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama's birth there on Aug. 4. *

Posted by: democratista | October 25, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

The selection of Sarah Palin as a presidential running mate has to rate as one of the most significant blunders in American politics this century. Not only has it cost John McCain the election, it will also result in a majority democratic congress in both the house and senate. Costly mistake by the Republicans that will have significant consequences for decades.

Posted by: rgn1 | October 25, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

The selection of Sarah Palin as a presidential running mate has to rate as one of the most significant blunders in American politics this century. Not only has it cost John McCain the election, it will also result in a majority democratic congress in both the house and senate. Costly mistake by the Republicans that will have significant consequences for decades.

Posted by: rgn1 | October 25, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

The selection of Sarah Palin as a presidential running mate has to rate as one of the most significant blunders in American politics this century. Not only has it cost John McCain the election, it will also result in a majority democratic congress in both the house and senate. Costly mistake by the Republicans that will have significant consequences for decades.

Posted by: rgn1 | October 25, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

It looks like people are finally waking up to Sarah Palin...once they see through the designer suits and fancy hairstyles!
Her political and constitutional knowledge is limited to say the least but then again she received her calling directly from God.
Anyone who believes that victims of rape and incest should deliver their unfortunate offspring has a distorted view of what's right or wrong!

Posted by: Gegi | October 25, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I think both candidates are doing good
watch funny videos

Posted by: roverfind | October 25, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Re anotherperspective 11:

It is John McCain who was not born in the U.S. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone, which the last time I checked was never a part of the U.S. This was a story for a day or two some months ago, and then people realized how silly it was. As a Canadian, I do find it odd that the U.S. still has this outdated requirement. It was put into the American Constitution to bar foreign conspirators from power, who wished to reverse the American Revolution (and there were many). I'm sure many Americans would like to see it lifted -- can you say President Schwarzenegger?

Posted by: ChadR | October 25, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Wow, we thought Cheney was bad. Palin seems worse. The lady has zero upstairs except a lot of divisive rhetoric. People can see that and thus she's nosediving as bad as Bush has. But McCain selected her, so what does that say about how little he has upstairs too. Both are presages of doom. America can and will do better with Obama at the helm.

Posted by: buzziea | October 25, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Other than that Mrs Lincoln how was the play.
What Kind of a reaction did McCain and the Rove people expect to get after selecting the U.B.O.C (useless bag of crap). Four years to get a journalism degree to be a sports broadcaster, Heck that’s way better than a constitutional law teacher any day of the week. But she will appeal to the “base” a group of people who’s most important issues are to make abortion illegal, ostracize gays from are society and make sure that everybody has arsenal of firearms. How delusional can you be to think this formula will work time and time again? For the people that did vote for Bush the last time around you DISSERVE what you are getting. You are the people that blindly bought into all of the rightwing sound bites instead of taking the time to actually look into backgrounds of the individuals that you voted for. Fortunately enough of the electorate this time around is not buying into the right wing B.S machine. The sad part is it took the crisis that this country is in to make that happen.

Posted by: pragman | October 25, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Wanna see what's behind the fall in Palin's numbers - watch this chilling video of interviews with her supporters:

Posted by: Derek5 | October 25, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

If the media printed the unresearched opinion as fact about Santa Claus that they have been printing about Sarah Palin, everyone would lock off their chimneys on Christmas Eve screaming how bad Santa was. Unfortunately balance is not a part of media reporting.

Maybe it is their education. It should consist of Economics, Political Science, History, etc instead of just writing.

Obama could say gold is silver and silver is gold and the media would declare it astute and defend it. Unfortunately their only research on Obama is to regurgitate what he says as fact.

Posted by: tomwjenkins | October 25, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I sincerely hope that the clock on Sarah Palin's popularity reads 14:59.

Posted by: ennepe68 | October 25, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

So does Palin think we are stupid ? If and only if she gets elected what is she going to wear then ? If she gives the clothes to charity, who as a charity recipient will wear Marcus and Sax.... I am 60 and not a rocket scientist, but I can hear a fish story ( putting it mild) when I hear one.... God help America if the McCain party gets in....

Posted by: clark6715 | October 25, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The danger of the internet to stupid people is that they think everything posted on any idiot's blog is true. Why anyone is stupid enough to still be posting the lies about Obama's birth.... To the poster(because I am sure it is one person with more than one email address)- just because you are a low intellect racist doesn't mean there are more like you on here. Why not go post at the Examiner or the Washington Times?

Posted by: silverspring25 | October 25, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin doesn't deserve the time it takes to post about her--but I will, just to vent. She has left a trail of sleaze at every turn and doesn't seem to notice or care. Her attempts at folksiness are self-parody, verbatim. She wears her religion on her pricey sleeve while trading on racism, fear, and greed--and thinks it's cute. I don't sanction sexist attacks--but honestly, this woman invites and deserves the criticism she gets. As a feminist, I despise her for her cheap, empty self-promotion. And I think it's time to call her what she is; "unqualified" doesn't begin to say it. Only Karl Rove deserves more contempt. This kind of politics is clear evidence that we need serious improvement in our education system. We have become way too easy to manipulate.

Posted by: sjohnston1 | October 25, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Frankly, I can't wait for Obama to get elected. Since there will have to be an increase in payroll taxes to fund Social Security, Medicare, universal healthcare, those who are employed won’t have much left to spend. I won't have to pay a dime since I will be retired in a few years. I'll be living in a house that I own outright, while the rest of you pay $8 or more for gas, pay your high rent, and ever increasing payroll taxes. Also, since I will make under $150,000 a year, I’ll get a tax break under Obama. My 401k has been safe since I moved it out of equities. I wonder if any of you did the same.

Obama will have to tax us. He has no choice. 700 billion to bail out Wall Street. 700 billion in deficits. All of it is coming out of your pockets. Obama wants to tax corporations. Countries , like Ireland , are trying to lure corporations to their country. Obama wants to tax corporations 40%. Ireland taxes corporations 12%. Guess where all your jobs will go once corporations are taxed 40%? Obama wants to tax small businesses. Small businesses employ most of the workers in the USA. If small businesses are taxed more, they won’t employ as many workers or they will increase the price of goods and services. This is not rocket science. If you think 6.1% unemployment is bad, wait until you see double digit unemployment, just like the Jimmy Carter years.

To all you young, employed Obama supporters who will be working until you're at least 70 or more, I want to thank you, in advance, for paying exorbitant payroll taxes to fund my early retirement. Go Obama!

Posted by: Dodgers1 | October 25, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

It is purely a matter of intelligence and at a time when intelligence is called for. I am a Vietnam era veteran and sick of McCain and his failed military career, beginning with bottom of the class at Annapolis and then 5 jets crashed, and then 132 military servicemen killed when he wet-started his jet prior to take-off on the USS Forrester. He suffers from arrogance disease and then add his war hawk approach and his age of 72. Palin is not fit for anything in Washington, DC. Perhaps Alaska, or Hollywood, but not the White House. Intelligence trumps ignorance and arrogance every time...

Posted by: radiantenergies | October 25, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

It seems the honeymoon of Palin and McCain was a statement of expressing approval for their nomination and approval of women in politics.

Then reality and issues set in, and people got away from expressing their feelings and started to make serious choices on their picks on whom they really wanted to run the country.

Posted by: ffcaruso | October 25, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

The dirty politics of character assassination of Obama with false innuendo and malicious rumor has backfired on the McCain campaign and his supporters.

The only people who buy such outlandish, racist, neoconservative right-wing trash, are people who would never vote for a Democrat, a moderate, or an African-American (with a Moslem name, no less) anyway.

But it definitely turned off the characteristically fair-minded swing-voter against McCain-Palin.

Posted by: ffcaruso | October 25, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Let Barack Hussein Obama be ashamed of himself for acting as if president George W. Bush has been anything other than a great president who has kept this country safe and fended off economic woes for quite some years, even in these last two years when Democrats have had control in the Congress, and a president who took moral stands on issues affecting this country, among other great stands. If Obama were ever any wise politically, in his positions on the issues, (Isn't that a laugh?) Would he not do exactly the opposite of how he does on about anything one could name? Let the Democrats lose every seat both in the House and Senate for if for no other reason than them voting against this country in refusing the proposals of the Republicans to try to keep Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae from bringing down the economy. (Remember 2005 and 2006.) Is there any knowledgeable, decent, sensible person who thinks that if it were not that way that the crisis would still have happened under George W. Bush's watch? Also let that Obama lose this presidential election bigger than any fool who has ever lost anything.

Posted by: PROFINDS | October 26, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Say what you will, Palin's experience as PTA president, mayor of a small town, (pop. 5,000), two-year governor of a sparsely populated state (pop. 500,000) doesn’t quite cut it; nor does her hockey mom, beauty queen, academic disadvantaged, religious fundamentalist, folksy, persona do much for her presidential, world-leader image. Then there are the pending concerns that are likely to escalate into media-fodder scandals should she take office-- Troopergate, her pregnant daughter’s shotgun wedding, her involvement with the Alaska Independence Party, her allowing the First-Dude to meddle in government business, and other issues about her personal life and character that would no doubt crop up over time.

Barack Obama, of course, is no bargain either. As a one-term Illinois senator and two-year U.S. senator, his experience is scant, but, at least, by serving in a various Senate committees, he has acquired some inside knowledge on national and international affairs.

John McCain, to be sure, was the better qualified candidate. Had he picked Joe Lieberman or someone else of equal stature as his running mate, he would now be double digits ahead of Obama in the polls. Sarah Palin did energize the lowest common denominator of the conservative base, but in so doing, she has alienated many undecided voters who would have made the difference on November 4. Joe Lieberman may be short on charisma, but by dint of his knowledge and unblemished record, he would eventually have won over the conservative base and most undecided voters as well.

Also, the fact that McCain allowed his staffers to foist Palin on him sight unseen (clearly, she was not on his short list) betrays a lack of leadership. He might yet win the election, but if he loses, it will be largely because of Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Carlossss | October 26, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not the least qualified candidate in this race, in my opinion. Barack Obama lacks so much experience in comparison to John McCain that let it be truthfully shouted, that Barack Obama is clearly much more unqualified that any of the other candidates.

Posted by: PROFINDS | October 26, 2008 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Amazing that they never expose the internals in the headlines or first paragraph.

Amazing how 51% democratic and democratic leaning versus 41% republican and republican leaning in a poll come up with a steady 9 point lead for Obama.

Amazing how 6 weeks of pounding on Palin has increased her negatives. I never would have guessed that incredible scrutiny of all minutia of one side and very little scrutiny of the other side would give people that idea.

Polls and reporters are supposed report public opinion, not drive it.

The reporting from 2004 now matches the current financial conditions. Plus the reporting in 2004 matched the Democratic election rhetoric to a tee!

Were they visionary or simply trying to lead us there.

Posted by: thelaw1 | October 26, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse


Stop being a troll, I have seen the same cut and paste post in numerous forums... does the McSame campaign pay you guys by the post for this copied stuff? If so, they are getting ripped off, because when people see the same posts over and over in different forums, it becomes obvious it isn't a real person speaking from the heart, but a campaign employee or volunteer spreading propaganda.

Posted by: PennyP1 | October 26, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

thelaw1 said: "Amazing how 51% democratic and democratic leaning versus 41% republican and republican leaning in a poll come up with a steady 9 point lead for Obama."

Excuse me, but any poll SHOULD have a higher number of democrats because there are more registered democrats than there are registered republicans. Get a freaking clue, don't try to read conspiracy theories into poll data if you have so little understanding of polling methods.

Posted by: PennyP1 | October 26, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

All you idiots who are voting for McCain/Palin.....can you understand who is going to be this countries president if the old man dies? Can you visualize a state dinner with the premier of Israel, and the pig with the lipstick? How embarassing!!!

Posted by: linda_521 | October 26, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The MAJORITY (like 99%) of ALL print and broadcast media has endorsed Obama. They want "to make history." To heck with who is the better candidate for this country?

So the minute Sarah Palin started going up in the polls this same Obama media started telling half truths and NEGATIVE headline articles and news stories. This while Obama, the ANTI AMERICAN candidate gets positive press. "No flag pin as it may "be perceived that I am taking sides." and wants to CHANGE the National Anthem as he does not like the words and "war like message."
And ONLY 50% have an UNfavorable rating of her? Media, keep telling stories. Make your history. You will be a part of that history. And it will not be written nicely toward you.

Posted by: Texan2007 | October 26, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

anotherperspective11 you will beleive anything won´t you. He was born in Hawaii, end of issue. You probably beleive he is a muslim too. Wrong. What about being an Arab? Do you beleive that also? Wrong. Please post something intelligent.

Posted by: neglectedveterans | October 26, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse


Since you are SO concerned about Barack Obama's brith certificate, here is a link where you can go see a copy for yourself:

It sure is tough having to deal with the FACTS, isn't it?

PUT UP OR SHUT UP. (Since you can't "put up" I think you are down to the "shut up" option.)

Posted by: patentphd | October 26, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

"anotherperspective11" : Put on your tin foil hat and take your medication. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. He had to provide a birth certificate (and other information) to run for president.The government saw no problem with the document. Some crackpot author, Jerome Corsi, who is also responsible for the 9/11 conspiracy theory, started the rumor that the birth certificate was a fake. Go to and educate yourself.This rumor has been debunked. There is a high resolution photograph showing the raised seal , signatures and stamps of a real birth certificates, as well as sworn affadavits guaranteeing its authenticity. The candidate who was not born in the US was John McCain. He was born in Panama where his father was stationed while in the service. McCain wasn't granted US citizenship till he was 1 1/2 years old. That doesn't exactly fit the description of a person who is eligible to run for president as set forth in the Constitution. It says only "natural born" citizens are eligible to run for president. The US Congress passed a special law that declared McCain a "natural born citizen", due to the fact of his father's military service. This allowed him to run for president. Please get your facts straight. Spouting ridiculous drivel like that just makes you look foolish..

Posted by: winnie47 | October 26, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

The Seduction Is Working:
Ah yes, Obama and the Democrats and their well planned game of seduction; with nice, background music being played by Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, backed up by the Acorn Quartet and the Main Stream Media, and fine, vintage wine (OK, actually it was really Kool-Aide), they broke down the resistance of the virgin in the wilderness so they could, by dis-honorable means, take from her what she cherished most, her sense of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: DL13 | October 26, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

The above writer who noted that Obama is not a citizen and is "under investigation" is typical of the usual Palen lover crowd. Now that you know Obama is a citizen and a bit of US History, you may also do some reading on Joe Plumber.

Joe has never had a plumbing license.

Joe has never registered to vote.

Joe has an IRS lien on his home for unpaid income taxes.

Posted by: jbarger1 | October 28, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse


McCain belongs to claims to attend any church. He has claimed a profession of faith. You have never him state a belief in Jesus Christ, much less a personal relationship. John 3:16 would stump him.

Sarah believes, however. Look up Pentecost and amaze yourself with what she knows.

Obama HAS made a profession of faith. Look up United Church of Christ and amaze yourself.

Posted by: jbarger1 | October 28, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I love hearing the sound of the GOP imploding.

Posted by: Christian_in_NYC | October 29, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

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