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This Race Goes to 11 - Powell Helps with Indies

Barack Obama is up 11 points on John McCain among likely voters in the new Washington Post-ABC News tracking poll, 54 to 43 percent. Though little changed from yesterday, Obama's national lead is now his biggest of the campaign in Post-ABC polling.

Former secretary of state Colin Powell's endorsement provides a new boost for Obama, who has made significant progress with voters as a leader in international affairs. But Obama also continues to be lifted by more fundamental advantages, including a 2 to 1 advantage on "helping the middle-class."

First on Powell - Two in 10 independent voters said they are more inclined to vote for Obama because of Powell's backing; 4 percent said they were nudged the other way.

In polling after the Powell nod, Obama trails McCain by 19-points on the question of who would be a better commander in chief. But McCain's advantage as prospective commander in chief is sharply diminished from early September, when he held a whopping 43-point lead on the question coming out of the nominating conventions.

Of course, the intervening period also includes the three presidential debates and other events that have turned what was then a roughly even race into one with Obama clearly ahead. And the Powell endorsement does not carry the weight it would have in the 1990s. In the new poll, 77 percent of voters said it will not sway them this year; in late 1995, 55 percent said it would have had an impact during that campaign.

Nevertheless, among those who said Powell sways them toward Obama, nearly six in 10 said the Democrat would be the better commander in chief, while a similarly large proportion of those unmoved by Powell side with McCain on the question.

On the broader question of who would be better on international affairs, it is close to even, with McCain at 49 percent, Obama at 46 percent. That is only marginally different from a poll a month ago, but significantly worse for McCain than the 14-point advantage he had following the GOP convention.

Elsewhere in the new poll - Obama leads by about 2 to 1 on health care (which nudged into the double-digits on the most important issue question) and on helping the middle class. No headway on either for McCain as he and the GOP have stepped up their criticisms of Obama on this front.

Obama's 17-point advantage on dealing with the economy (which remains the breakaway top issue) ties high for the campaign. He also maintains a lead over McCain on handling taxes, 51 to 43 percent. At eight-points, Obama's edge on this question is identical to the one George W. Bush held over John F. Kerry at this stage four years ago. Eight years ago, Bush was up 13 points on Al Gore in late October.

McCain-Bush - After ticking below 50 for the first time two days ago, the percentage of voters who see McCain as a continuation of Bush is back to 51. Voters again split 51-46 on the question of whether McCain would mainly continue in Bush's direction or chart a new course.

Obama-experience - 56 percent of voters said Obama has the kind of experience it takes to be an effective president, 42 percent said he does not. Those numbers match his best of the campaign, and are a touch better than the split on Bush's experience on the eve of the 2000 election (52 percent said he had enough experience to be a good president, 44 percent said not).

Full trend from today's release is here.

Achilles heels? Experience and President Bush

Do you think Obama has the kind of experience it takes to serve effectively as president?

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Would McCain mainly lead in a new direction or mainly continue in Bush's direction?

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By Jon Cohen  |  October 22, 2008; 5:00 PM ET
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Good - I'm glad to see Obama is pulling away. I suspect this trend will continue until the 4th, when we will see a landslide in the electoral college. McCain should attempt to restore some honor to himself and his campaign by talking about his plan for America and his story. It's clear his crazy attacks have not helped and have actually hurt, both his standing in the polls and his legacy.

Posted by: NM Moderate | October 22, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Roverfind | October 22, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: roverfind | October 22, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The continued onslaught of news and poll numbers has to be very discouraging to Republican-leaning voters and extremely encouraging to Democratic-leaning voters. Coupled with Obama's unprecedented GOTV effort (fueled by unprecedented money) don't be surprised to see actual turnout reflect this "enthusiasm gap". This could translate into 400 EV, 61 Senate, and 250 House seats for the Democrats. We should give credit where credit is due: THANKS, KARL ROVE!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

AP has it a one-point lead; and GW, two. Of course, no mention of this at the Compost. I wonder why?

Can it have something to do with a TANK?

Posted by: info | October 22, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Look at the internals of the AP "poll"...
It's heavily weighted with southern men (aka your typical republican)

The AP "poll" is not only an outlier by definition, but it's not even a valid polling sample.

Posted by: AP Poll = BS | October 22, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Look at ALL the other polls that have Obama with AT LEAST a 10 point margin.

Of course, no mention of this here from the Repubs. I wonder why?

Can it have something to do with DENIAL?

Posted by: Obama 08! | October 22, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Sorry - I still don't get it. What makes Obama qualified to be President?
- spent time as youth in Indonesia?
- played High school basketball?
- community organizer?
- 143 days as US Senator?
- Because we WANT to believe?
- Some fluff about "change?"

Posted by: pgr88 | October 22, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

What makes Sen. Obama qualified?

He's a natural born adult citizen of the United States. That's the only qualification required by the U.S. Constitution.

Does he have the qualities to be president? That is for you, the individual voter, to determine. In my opinion, yes. You perhaps think otherwise.

Posted by: Eric in Ohio | October 22, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

one of the better poll breakdown overviews....

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | October 22, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

one of the better poll breakdown overviews....

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | October 22, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Considering McCain's been erratic, in some instances a loose cannon, and has displayed a lack of good judgment, and an inconsistent temperament, I'd be concerned that in a crisis McCain might act without thinking of the consequences.

Posted by: JaneB08 | October 22, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

The article correctly identifies the "achilles heels" of both candidates.

So, past activities of Obama cannot prove he is fully qualified to be president.
On the other hand, McCain has proven his flawed judgement often enough. It is very clear that he is not qualified.
So the choice is between mabe and certainly not. Its easy.

Posted by: awaler | October 22, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell: an example of racism trumping principle. With his son still a supporter of McCain, Thanksgiving should be interesting at the Powell table.

Posted by: segeny | October 22, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Powell's endorsement of Obama was strictly for Powell's benefit and strictly about race. Powell is a turncoat opportunist and closet liberal. He was the Republican politicians' version of Obama in the Army , being put in cushy jobs, for brief periods, and accomplishing nothing of substance.
I have a challenge for all you Obama devotees. Come up with one thing...just one...that he has done in his career to bring people together. In his brief Senate sojurn, best I can tell, he did absolutely nothing in a bipartisan manner.
Don't know how he can be perceived as a uniter when he's done no reaching across the aisle like McCain repeatedly has. Bet you can't identify any.

Posted by: LarryG | October 22, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"Race goes to 11"

Nice Spinal Tap reference!

Posted by: Rich Cain | October 22, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

How is it that polls by ABC-WaPost, both notoriously and officially in the tank for Obama, show him galloping off into the sunset while most other polls show McCain within the margin of error or - gasp - outright tied with the Messiah himself?

Actually, I think I answered my own question.

Posted by: Rory | October 22, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama also graduated top of his class at Havard Law while on scholarship as compared to Senator McCain would graduated near the bottom of his class, and Gov Palin who had to attend 5 schools before one would like her graduate.

Senator Obama has also written several well received books himself, and repeatedly demonstrated deep understanding of many issues and the temperment to lead. Senator McCain has experience to make up for his lack of intellectual acheivement, but has shown an amazing lack of judgement and self-control in this campaign.

Posted by: Muddy | October 22, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Look, America is just beginning it's rise to th top. We are now in the process of overcoming the biggest problem in this country "racism". Once Obama is elected, there is no stopping what this country can do for the American people and for people all over the world. I predict there will a swift end to war in Iraq, and the middle-eastern countries will look at American as a role model to get along and have peace with all cultures. Americans now have the opportunity to join the entire world together in peace. Electing Obama, for America, will be walking the talk and that is a enormous message to other countries who are pointing fingers at us. We tell them to get along with their culturlly different neighbors, and it's past the time for us to do the same within this country. Obama/Biden is the change this country needs and no question about it, Hillary Clinton and Colin Powell will be helping them to lead this country for world peace and prosperity. McCain/Palin are the same old sick song of the last eight years.

Posted by: mzbond | October 22, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Here's one thing Obama has done to bring people together: he has put together a history-making presidential campaign that is shaping up to be an Electoral College landslide. And he's done it by bringing progressives and moderates together in a united vision of a hopeful future. I am delighted to say he appears to be leaving the Neanderthal Right out of his coalition.

Posted by: rmw1124 | October 22, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

So where's ekim 53? Mikey keeps insisting that Obama can't pull away...and here he is pulling away!


Posted by: Attucks | October 22, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Here's a novel idea. Let's NOT let the in the tank for Obama since the outset MEDIA decide this election!

The Wash Post should spend more time vetting Obama, who has yet to be vetted and less time worrying about what clothing Sarah Palin is wearing! Pathetic.

If there was ANY shred of credbility left in journalism in 2008, it is now officially dead. Too bad. Americans and the world deserve better.

Obama is NOT qualified to be President of the U.S.

No amount of money spent (600 million is an obscene amount of money)

No amount of 24/7 media promotion of Obama for a year and half

No amount of outspending McCain by sometimes 10 to 1

Given the circumstances, the economy and the money and the media Obama should be at least 25 points ahead in the polls. At least.

Obama has failed to close the deal.

There are still some decent Americans who can't be bought.

I am one of them.

Country first, party second.

McCain 08 and Hillary 2012.

Join me!

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Posted by: JH | October 22, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

One more thing, Colin Powell lost all credibility when he sat before the United Nations holding a fake bottle of "yellow cake" uranium and lied to the world about "weapons of mass destruction".

If Colin Powell had had the character and guts to speak out when it mattered we might not be in this mess today. He failed.

His opinion means nothing to me.

Of course his "endorsement" was about race.

It's okay to admit it.

Posted by: JH | October 22, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

What has Obama done? Setting a record for money collected 650 million, none from corporations or lobbyists other than unions, got a record number of primary voters as did Clinton at 18 million, had the kind of debates with Clinton the delved into issues and positions which were about 90% the same, made history with his worldwide tour, did not leave General Gratien at the gate whom had more right to see the troops, backed Shinseki on Iraq, Fallon on Iran, the joint chiefs on drawdown and Afghan build-up along with being against the surge, backed Rice's and Gate's approach in Georgia over the Cheney approach. Has shown a grasp of domestic and foreign issues that made Powell say he is ready and able. That is what Obama has done.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Bolton was assistant Secy of State in charge of nuclear proliferation and probably was most responsible for fooling Powell, The Hadley, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfield cabal was probably invoved too. When Powell said lets see what changes Bush makes before he decides to stay was him asking for the resignations of those that fooled him. The Plame conspiracy alerted him to check the hard data to find he was fooled.

Posted by: Jimbo | October 22, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

If McCain had been leading Obama do you think the WP would have started this goofball tracking poll.

Posted by: Bob | October 22, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NRI | October 22, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

JH

I know why you are not voting for Obama but why are you voting for McCain?

Posted by: elbuzz | October 22, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, how much stupidity does it take to ask "what makes Sen. Obama qualified"?!

- He was top of class at Harvard Law School,

- presdident of Harvard Law Review,

- chose to work as a community organizer for the poor instead of making millions at a law firm,

- organized a huge voger registration effort in 1992,

- then worked as a State Senator in Illinois for eight years,

- entered the US Senate in 2005,

- has been right on all the major policy issues (and stood up for what he believed in: against Iraq war, against deregulation of the financial market, against tax cuts for the privileged few, for renewable energy and green jobs, for a universal right to health care etc.),

whereas McCain has been wrong on all of them.

So, now ask again: what makes Obama qualified?

Posted by: Observer | October 22, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, how much stupidity does it take to ask "what makes Sen. Obama qualified"?!

- He was top of class at Harvard Law School,

- presdident of Harvard Law Review,

- chose to work as a community organizer for the poor instead of making millions at a law firm,

- organized a huge voger registration effort in 1992,

- then worked as a State Senator in Illinois for eight years,

- entered the US Senate in 2005,

- has been right on all the major policy issues (and stood up for what he believed in: against Iraq war, against deregulation of the financial market, against tax cuts for the privileged few, for renewable energy and green jobs, for a universal right to health care etc.),

whereas McCain has been wrong on all of them.

So, now ask again: what makes Obama qualified?
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OK, what makes Obama qualified?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse


Well, ok...

Judging from the standards of people that elected George W. Bush,

Obama must indeed be the most unqualified person in the world...

Posted by: Observer | October 22, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Observer:
Sorry, how much stupidity does it take to ask "what makes Sen. Obama qualified"?!
--------------------------------------
Anonymous:
OK, what makes Obama qualified?

______________

Says it all. Ask a question.....

Posted by: Dos | October 22, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I feel the earth rising up in readiness for a landslide.

I sincerely hope this is the end of the GOP. May they all die of shame.

Posted by: queenskid | October 22, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

On Veteran Health Care

May 2006: McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs for health care facilities.

April 2006: McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

March 2006: McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.

March 2004: McCain voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans' medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive corporate tax loopholes.

On Veteran Benefits

May 2008: McCain is currently opposed to the Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act (S 22), proposed by Senators Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel, to raise GI benefits to a level similar to those received by WWII vets. The maximum benefit would cover tuition for veterans for up to 4 years at the in-state public colleges and universities.

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Mccain has not sponsored a banking bill this congress!!!
"Neither Sen. McCain (Ariz.) nor Sen. Obama (Ill.) sits on the Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee, which is taking the lead in the upper chamber of molding the bailout plan.

McCain is the lead sponsor of 38 pieces of legislation during the 110th Congress, none of which have been referred to the Banking panel, according to a review of Thomas, a congressional website.

Obama has introduced 130 measures during this Congress. Five of Obama’s standalone bills fall within the Banking Committee's jurisdiction."

READ MORE:
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/mccain-has-introduced-no-banking-bill-this-congress-2008-09-25.html

Posted by: Michael | October 22, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget to vote.
Don't let anybody tell you that you haven't the right to vote.
Don't let the weather stop you. Don't let the long lines, or the republican thugs screaming at you stop you from exercising your right, your duty to vote.

And don't let these polls give you any ideas either. When was the last time you met anyone honest in the media, left or right? They all have an agenda, same as you, but you get to vote your agenda. Do it.

Posted by: manichaean | October 22, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Looking at some of the polls, it's hard to argue that many moderate republicans and independents are moving back to McCain. If you look at the remaining battleground states, it's not as bleak as many might believe for the old Maverick. Most polls show him up on Obama in Florida, Ohio, Missouri, and North Carolina and basically running even with him in Virginia, Colorado, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire. Even so, I think the polls really underestimate the will of the people. Here in Wisconsin, most of the polls show Obama with a large lead, but I will guarantee you that this state will BARELY go blue and maybe even go RED. Do the math, it will be a McCain win. Honestly I feel sorry for the Democrats, they may not win another presidential election in our time (after Palin '12 and '16). But don't feel too bad- they and Obama have been outgunned and outcampaigned in the last few weeks (even with all their millions).

Posted by: sconie | October 22, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

AP has it a one-point lead; and GW, two. Of course, no mention of this at the Compost. I wonder why?

Can it have something to do with a TANK?

Posted by: info | October 22, 2008 5:43 PM

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All the other polls have Obama ahead by 11 to 4 points. GW Battleground is run by a conservative organization and is suspect. You are grasping at straws.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

No matter how you praise Obama, still, these statements stand:

1. Bill Clinton said, 'you roll the dice with Obama.'

2. Joe Biden, his running mate, said 'Obama is not ready to be president.' When asked about that on other occasion, he said ' I stand by that statement.'

But Joe Biden lost his integrity when he sold his word for the vice-presidency.

As Obama has no known accomplishments to back his ideas, you will never know what he will do. A man who has only his words to prove his vision is hard to believe.

Faith without works is dead.

Posted by: iolani | October 22, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Sorry - I still don't get it. What makes Obama qualified to be President?
- spent time as youth in Indonesia?
- played High school basketball?
- community organizer?
- 143 days as US Senator?
- Because we WANT to believe?
- Some fluff about "change?"

Posted by: pgr88 | October 22, 2008 5:55 PM

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I don't get why you think a McCain Administration will be different from a Bush Administration.

Posted by: maggots | October 22, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

No matter how you praise Obama, still, these statements stand:

1. Bill Clinton said, 'you roll the dice with Obama.'

2. Joe Biden, his running mate, said 'Obama is not ready to be president.' When asked about that on other occasion, he said ' I stand by that statement.'

But Joe Biden lost his integrity when he sold his word for the vice-presidency.

As Obama has no known accomplishments to back his ideas, you will never know what he will do. A man who has only his words to prove his vision is hard to believe.

Faith without works is dead

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Faith that McCain will be different from Bush is not only dead, but stupid.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Looking at some of the polls, it's hard to argue that many moderate republicans and independents are moving back to McCain. If you look at the remaining battleground states, it's not as bleak as many might believe for the old Maverick. Most polls show him up on Obama in Florida, Ohio, Missouri, and North Carolina and basically running even with him in Virginia, Colorado, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire. Even so, I think the polls really underestimate the will of the people. Here in Wisconsin, most of the polls show Obama with a large lead, but I will guarantee you that this state will BARELY go blue and maybe even go RED. Do the math, it will be a McCain win. Honestly I feel sorry for the Democrats, they may not win another presidential election in our time (after Palin '12 and '16). But don't feel too bad- they and Obama have been outgunned and outcampaigned in the last few weeks (even with all their millions)

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I'll bet you think that the WMDs are buried in somewhere Iraq waiting for us to find them, and that Brownie did a good job in New Orleans, and that Alberto Gonzales had nothing to hide.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

The AP poll is dated too, and not very current.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | October 22, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

So, WAPO,Obama the Wealth Spreader,Motor
Mouth Joe Biden and Colin Powell It Didnot
Help You Clowns Get My Independent Voters
Early Ballot Vote as A Proud Member of
Sarah's Army I voted for Sen John McCain,
Gov Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber for
Sec of State! No Way Would I Ever Vote For
as Sarah Palin Calls Him,"Barack Obama The
Socialist Wealth Spreader!" Sarah's Army
Will Help Sen McCain and Gov Palin March
on to Victory in 2008 and Stop The Obama,
Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Colin Powell
on Their Road To Socialism/Communism! Just
Say NOBAMA/NOBIDEN NONANCY PELOSI NOPOWELL
AND NO DAMN SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM EVER!

Posted by: Claudine 1000 | October 22, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

IMAGINARIUM: “A FEW GOOD ALMOST LUCID MOMENTS”
(Keith Olbermann plays hardball with John McCain”)
John McCain: You want answers?
Keith Olbermann: I think I'm entitled to them.
John McCain: You want answers?
Keith Olbermann: I want the truth!
John McCain: You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has a certain, precious amount of wealthy people. And those wealthy people have the right to protect what they have, any way they can. If they don’t do it, who's gonna do it? You? You, Keith Olbermann? I, as their candidate, have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for those lower and middle classes and you curse the people who give them jobs. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that all those unemployed, underemployed and soon-to-be-unemployed people, while tragic, probably didn’t work very hard anyway. (Look at how little they earned compared to CEO salaries and golden parachutes!!!) And the existence of trickle down Republican economics, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, is what has raised that free market tide so that all boats, big and small, can float...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about these facts, like with your friends at Georgetown parties, you want me on call. You need me on call.
We use phrases like “loose regulations, squishy credit lines and a warm place to count the profits” ...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending our captains of industry. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who still rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very economic bubble I helped George Bush to provide, then questions the manner in which we provided it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you grow some patriotic gonads and eschew socialism. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!
Keith Olbermann: Did you support George Bush and all his works?
John McCain: (quietly) I did the job that the Republican Party sent me to do.
Keith Olbermann: Did you support George Bush and his economic policies?
John McCain: You're goddamn right I did!!.

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | October 22, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Now the truth comes out . Osama bin Laden wants McCain to win so he can keep dragging the USA down with the endless war.

Posted by: majorteddy | October 22, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Powell was complicit in the selling the Iraq War. This supposed man of honor, stood up in front of the United Nations and sold the War to the American public. No amount of supporting Obama will absolve him of his lack of spine - thousands of men have died since.

Posted by: David | October 22, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Hm. Poll numbers depend on weighting factors i.e. fudge factors, like the generic ballot. In this race there are too many unknowns, like how many of Obama's supporters will be too high to get to the polls on Nov 4. I'm guessing it's a lot.

Posted by: Derty Poiiuy | October 22, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going to be the next president of the United States and it will be the best thing to happen to the red states. Rather than killing your sons for oil contracts in Iraq which Mr. Magoo who's 72 told you he was sorry about and hoped he never had to kill your sons for oil contracts again, President Obama can capture or kill Bin Laden, the Republicans aborted mission for seven years and help Iraqis decide to share their oil wealth between the tribes who actually own it while using the ten billion a month from our Big Oil Bubba oil gangbang to create jobs in America building solar panels, fuel cell vehicles and a delivery system and wind fields. It is a new beginning and it's exciting. Don't let stupid old men hold us back. They've been holding us back for decades. One note about socialism. The tax breaks the Republicans are crying about were hidden for taxpayers in a war appropriations bill and for corporations to bank their bloody war profits tax free in the Homeland Security Act. Republicans are a disgrace to this nation and they should be duly rewarded for the hell they have wrought on our country and the Mideast.

Posted by: bob II | October 22, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Powell was not only a second rate general who got poor efficiency reviews, he also wrote a report as a colonel whitewashing the My Lai massacre. He's a real stooge. Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

bob II: whose hog have u been washin'?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I find Al Franken's candidacy inspiring. He has smashed the glass ceiling for people with Down Syndrome.

Posted by: Joe Blogs | October 22, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Every U.S citizen who is concerned about their democratic right should read http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
Beware at the polling booth & stand up for your right to vote.

Posted by: Joe C | October 22, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

You litter a lot of blogs Anonymous. Your name says it all. Doo-Dah!

Posted by: bob II | October 22, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

How many Saudis have you killed Republicans since nineteen Saudis attacked us and you let the House of Saud fly out Sept. 13 and their baby boy RUNNOFT because you make a truckload of cantaloupes an orb of light. A million daid Iraqis and Big Oil Bubba ain't payin one dime for it because he's chosen by Jesus. Terrific. That's terrific. Air Force vet here. How many B-52's have you lost chemically bombing a nation with no aerial defenses or missile system?? Bubba?

Posted by: bob II | October 22, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The only polls that matter to these liberal loons are the ones showing Obama ahead. You know like the WP poll.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I have a challenge for all you GW Bush devotees. Come up with one thing...just one...that made him QUALIFIED for becoming Prez? Besides bankrupting three oil companies and trading SAMMY SOSA away...

Posted by: Slim Pickenz | October 22, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I guess I can't blame Powell. Imagine how he'd be ostrasized if he endorsed McCain?

I wrote about this on my blog:
http://www.dare2believe.com

Tom

Posted by: tom | October 22, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

John McCain Who?
For those of you who still think that McCain is somehow different than the Bush administration, you need to check out an organization known as PNAC (Project for the New American Century). Founded in 1997, it is funded primarily by right wing NeoCons. Original members include William Kristol, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, I Lewis 'Scooter' Libby, Zalmay Kalilzad.. and the list goes on. It's purpose - global American domination through the use of force. Research it at Sourcewatch.org and truthdig.com
The connection to McCain is through funding. McCain was president of the parent organization, New Citizenship Project, which was PNAC's chief fundraising organ and was a signatory to PNAC in 2004.
Many of the Bush administrations key members and advisors, and McCains policy advisors are members of PNAC.

Check this out - google PNAC and McCain and look at the above web sites - I'm in total shock about this information.
You can go to the PNAC website as well, and read the source documents!

Posted by: MikeBY | October 22, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

John McCain started a fire on the carrier Forrestal. Killing 100 plus sailors. Had three plane crashes. Had a plane shot down. Finished at the bottom of his class at the academy. Would have been washed out if not for his dad being an admiral. Kicked his first wife and children to the curb for money and Cindy. Cindy paid 200,000 grand or so to buy him a seat in congress. He wasn't qualified to fly a plane let alone run a country. If a man can't take care of his family don't expect him to take care of your country!! whiteagle38

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is a godsend to America. Now is the time for us to do the right thing for ourselves.

Posted by: FirstMouse | October 22, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

The only polls that matter to these liberal loons are the ones showing Obama ahead. You know like the WP poll.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 9:09 PM

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All the polls show Obama ahead. You are living in conservative La La Land.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Hm. Poll numbers depend on weighting factors i.e. fudge factors, like the generic ballot. In this race there are too many unknowns, like how many of Obama's supporters will be too high to get to the polls on Nov 4. I'm guessing it's a lot.

Posted by: Derty Poiiuy | October 22, 2008 8:44 PM

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Oh yeah...and I guess that GW Bush is actually the most popular president since George Washington. Dream on.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Im wondering where the knife entered McCains back! The general claims to be a friend of McCain, with friends like him who needs enimies.

Posted by: jbooks | October 22, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

The polls are looking great for Obama and a McCain comeback at this point would make the upsets in 1936 and 1948 look unremarkable.

Still, about the only thing I agree with the Cons on is that old chestnut, "The only poll that matters is the one in November".

Posted by: CynthiaD | October 22, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Colin Powell testified under oath that Senator Ted Stevens had "sterling character."
Then he endorsed Obama.

You have to be an idiot to vote for Obama.

Posted by: Colinoscopy | October 22, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

GLOBAL POLL:
GLOBAL POLL:
GLOBAL POLL:
GLOBAL POLL:
(Gallup)

From Australia to Asia, Latin America to Europe and Africa:

OBAMA: 80%
MCCAIN: 20%

Posted by: Baby 'Bama '08 | October 22, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse


yeah, but McCain has the endorsement of Oliver North!

Well deserved support from a likely place.

McCain=bridge to nowhere

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

In l927, Harold D. Lasswell, a political science professor at the University of Chicago, in Propaganda Technique in the World War, analyzed the techniques employed by the Allies, the French, British, and Americans, against Germany and her allies during the war. Lasswell described propaganda as follows:
"A new and subtler instrument must weld thousands and even millions of human beings into one amalgamated mass of hate and will and hope ... propaganda. It is the new dynamic of society ... The fact remains that propaganda is one of the most powerful instrumentalities in the modern world. Propaganda is a reflex to the immensity, the rationality and willfulness of the modern world

The art of propaganda lies in understanding the emotional ideas of the masses and finding, through a psychologically correct form, the way to the attention and thence to the heart of the masses...The purpose of propaganda is not to provide interesting distraction for blasé young gentlemen, but to convince, and what I mean is to convince the masses...What our authorities least of all understood was the very first axiom of all propagandistic activity: to wit, the basically subjective and one-sided attitude it must take toward every question it deals with...Its effect for the most part must be aimed at the emotions and only to a very limited degree at the so-called intellect."

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Powell said he was troubled that some Republicans — he excluded McCain — continue to say or allow others to say that Obama is a Muslim, when he is a Christian. Such rhetoric is polarizing, he said.
"He's always been a Christian. But the really right answer is , what if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer's no, that's not America," Powell said. "Is there something wrong with some 7-year-old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she could be president?"

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

According to a poll taken in March 18 of 2004 , of four mainly Muslim nations, , by the Pew Global Attitudes Project of the Pew Research Center, around 31% of Turks now support the radical movement of Osama bin Laden, while in Morocco it is 45%, and in Jordan it is 55%. Of particular concern, according to this poll, support for Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, one of Islam’s largest countries, has risen to 65% of the population, or roughly 80 million people, and this in a country which now possesses atomic weapons!

Following the recent Iraqi war, and the atrocities uncovered in the Abu Ghraib prison, that figure has probably moved even higher; and this, in a strong Western environment, situated outside the traditional world of Islam.

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

In the last three years the media has been replete with people defending the testimony of Islam, remonstrating against the violent acts of September 11, stipulating that this was not, nor ever has been an example of Islam, since Islam is a religion of peace, evidenced by a prophet of peace, exampled by a history of peace.
We need to understand who these people are who are perpetrating these acts, and then we need to ask what their goal is, and from where they get their authority?
These groups of Muslims around the world who are carrying out the violent acts against the West go by many names. In Lebanon they are known as the Hezbullah (The party of God), in Palestine the Hamas, in Egypt, the Islamic Jihad, and in the United Kingdom by both the Muhajiroun, and the Hizb ul Tahrir (the party of liberation), etc.
Many pundits in the West seek to dismiss these militant elements as irrelevant extremists, representing only a small minority of the Muslim community. Recent research shows, however, that they are rapidly growing in numbers and importance, and are prepared to die for what they believe.

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In the United Kingdom, the mood among resident Muslims is becoming ever more negative with regards to the West, particularly against the governments of the United States and Great Britain. According to BBC (Gallup) and Q-News polls, taken in 2001, immediately following the 9/11 incident, radical Muslims made up roughly 15% of the Islamic community within the United Kingdom. By 2002, however, the radicals had gained up to 25% of the U.K. Muslim population.
If one were to look to traditional Islamic societies where people are fed anti-Western views regularly, with little recourse to alternative opinions, the statistics are even more disturbing.

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to sound like a flake, but his statements on MTP and his wholehearted endorsement of Obama, including his validation of Muslims in this country brought tears rolling down my cheeks. I felt validated in my belief in Obama, whom I think will make great great president. And I felt a sort of passing of the torch -Powell did make mistakes in the Bush admin., and he has owned his choices, but I do believe that he is a brilliant and good and patriotic, REAL country first knda guy. It was good to see him again.

Posted by: Grainne | October 22, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

According to a poll taken in March 18 of 2004 , of four mainly Muslim nations, , by the Pew Global Attitudes Project of the Pew Research Center, around 31% of Turks now support the radical movement of Osama bin Laden, while in Morocco it is 45%, and in Jordan it is 55%. Of particular concern, according to this poll, support for Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, one of Islam’s largest countries, has risen to 65% of the population, or roughly 80 million people, and this in a country which now possesses atomic weapons!

Following the recent Iraqi war, and the atrocities uncovered in the Abu Ghraib prison, that figure has probably moved even higher; and this, in a strong Western environment, situated outside the traditional world of Islam.

While not all Muslims are evil terrorists, we cannot neglect to take these fundamental features of Islam into consideration

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

What, then, is the goal of radical Muslims? When you talk to them, you quickly find that they believe Allah has created mankind for a purpose, namely, to submit to him. In that submission, Allah has stipulated how mankind is to act and live. The best model for mankind is what they term the Khilafa, or Islamic state, controlled by Shariah law. Thus, their primary aim is to dismantle the entire Western system of life and replace it with the Islamic Khilafa, using three forms of Jihad (meaning to strive): 1) against one’s inner self, 2) against Satan, and 3) against the enemies of Allah (Qital), almost always by the use of the sword (i.e. Violence).

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

In the Qur’an, there are references to Jihad, either by name or by inference in 149 verses, and the more violent form of Jihad, called Qital (sword verses) is mentioned in 34 verses! This proves its importance for Islam today.

Let’s just look at a few of these verses in the Qur’an:
Referring to Pagans, sura 9:5 says:
“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay those who join other gods with Allah wherever you find them; besiege them, seize them, lay in wait for them with every kind of ambush...”
Similarly, referring to Christians, sura 9:29 states:
“...Make war upon such of those to whom the scriptures have been given as believe not in Allah, or in the last day, and who forbid not what Allah and his apostle have forbidden...until they pay tribute...”
Concerning the unbelievers we can refer to sura 47:4 which says:
“When you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads, until ye have made a great slaughter among them...”
In sura 8:39 we find a similar admonition:
“And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression. And there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.”

And the reward for those who die while participating in Jihad we find in Sura 4:74:
“Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah. Whether he is slain or gets victory soon shall we give him a reward of great value”
How, then, should we interpret these verses? Or rather how do Muslims choose to interpret these verses? In order to answer that we need to go to he whom the Muslims consider as their Paradigm for interpreting these verses, and a universal model for all Muslims to follow, for all time, and for all places, namely, Muhammad, and ascertain how he would have used violence, or tolerance for those under his jurisdiction.

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to sound like a flake, but his statements on MTP and his wholehearted endorsement of Obama, including his validation of Muslims in this country brought tears rolling down my cheeks. I felt validated in my belief in Obama, whom I think will make great great president.
Posted by: Grainne | October 22, 2008 11:24
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According to a poll taken in March 18 of 2004 , of four mainly Muslim nations, , by the Pew Global Attitudes Project of the Pew Research Center, around 31% of Turks now support the radical movement of Osama bin Laden, while in Morocco it is 45%, and in Jordan it is 55%. Of particular concern, according to this poll, support for Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, one of Islam’s largest countries, has risen to 65% of the population, or roughly 80 million people, and this in a country which now possesses atomic weapons!

Following the recent Iraqi war, and the atrocities uncovered in the Abu Ghraib prison, that figure has probably moved even higher; and this, in a strong Western environment, situated outside the traditional world of Islam.

While not all Muslims are evil terrorists, we cannot neglect to take these fundamental features of Islam into consideratio

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Powell said the nation's economic crisis provided a "final exam" of sorts for both candidates, suggested McCain had failed the test.
"I found that he was a little unsure as to how to deal with the economic problems that we were having," Powell said. "Almost every day there was a different approach to the problem and that concerned me, sensing that he doesn't have a complete grasp of the economic problems that we had."
PLEASE…GIVE A BREAK! PURE DEMAGOGUE…
For a long time, Americans have tolerated the incessant whine from a portion of their fellow citizens whose innumerable complaints can be reduced to a single idea: life is not fair. Question: why would any rational American want to put these people in charge of the country? You can dress up the rhetoric of Barack Obama any way you want, but in the final analysis it is all about government imposing “fairness” upon us–by any means necessary.
The ascendancy of Americans who believe somebody “owes” them something without regard to mitigating factors such as hard work, ambition and personal responsibility is breath-taking. Yet it is hardly surprising. Years of sub-standard education have produced Americans whose misunderstanding of reality is profound. They truly believe that none of the problems they face are of their own making. They truly believe equality of opportunity and equality of results are one and the same. They truly believe self-esteem has no relationship to accomplishment.
In other words, it doesn’t matter what you do, it only matters what you want. And if you don’t get what you want, it’s because America is a rotten country.

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama’s entire political philosophy is based on the premise that America is essentially flawed. Not essentially good with some tweaking needed, but a net minus as a nation. That this essential contempt for America resonates with the likes of Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Hollywood celebrities, and the mainstream media is nothing new. Hating one’s country even as it has made you rich and/or famous is what much elitist behavior is all about.

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

The rise of Barack Obama suggests that this contempt is no longer limited to the ivory towers of academe, Manhattan or San Francisco cocktail parties, the mainstream media, the aging hippies, the radicals, the misfits and the neer-do-wells. It suggests that we may have reached a watershed moment in American history: those who disdain this country may finally outnumber those who love it. Those who complain may outnumber those who achieve. Those who take may outnumber those who give.
Perhaps Barack Obama is truly a man ahead of his time. He has seemingly tapped into a wellspring of discontent as powerful as it is misguided. “Robbing Peter to pay Paul” sounds attractive but only as as long as one has a steady supply of Peters ready,willing, and able to be bludgeoned by suffocating government. How long such people will be willing to put up with such an arrangement is anyone’s guess. It is far easier to ride on the wagon than pull it especially when those riding have the gall to suggest the pullers aren’t doing their “fair share.”
What happens when everyone wants a free ride, aka when the “Pauls” outnumber the “Peters?”
“Change you can believe in,” that’s what.

Posted by: ladyjane1 | October 22, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see the Dems have bought themselves the presidency for $600M. Obama went back on his word on campaign financing. Why should we beleive anything he tells us now that he is running for Prez? He will raise your taxes. Read my Lips!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

America’s Next President

Good by George and Richard. We will certainly miss you both a great deal, given the deep understanding and sound judgment you demonstrated in committing our country to an invasion and a very expensive protracted war in Iraq. And many thanks also for keeping a close regulatory eye on Wall Street and our mortgage lending and banking system during your 8 year watch. Sorry Bill and Hillary. Of course we really wanted to have you back again so that Bill could have another shot at some more action with interns in the oval office; and we will certainly miss not being able to hear all the details of such encounters. Too bad John and Sarah. We will always be deeply grateful to you, John, for wisely putting the needs of our country above petty politics in choosing your running mate. But, Sarah, unfortunately it looks like we may never get a chance to fulfill our wildest dream of someday having President Palin lead the free world. On the other hand Barack Obama isn’t all that much, is he? He is merely an intelligent, articulate, and insightful 47 year old biracial man, a top of his class graduate of Harvard Law School and president of its Law Review, a former instructor in constitutional law for 12 years at the University of Chicago Law School, a 3 term Illinois State Senator and US Senator for the past 4 years, a Washington outsider with fresh ideas who wants to make significant changes in Washington. Come to think of it. Welcome Barack Obama!

Posted by: Robert5000 | October 22, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

"Powell's endorsement of Obama was strictly for Powell's benefit and strictly about race."

It is hard to believe how many complete nut cases populate these boards.

Posted by: enb14 | October 22, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

What is Foreign Affairs really? Is it there where our world image is improved upon and preserved, or there where our world image is battered and deprecated? Going by poll results vis-à-vis the temperamental, diplomatic and intellectual aptitudes of the candidates--one being level-headed and calculated while the other being feisty and erratic--one could easily conclude for the latter. That beats me

Posted by: TKI | October 22, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

The race is tightening. It's all about the sates, electoral votes, not national averages.

Ohio, Florida, Virgina are tightening. McCain has the chance to sweep all three.

Posted by: Yar | October 22, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

I would have voted for McCain had he selected either Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman for his VP. Unfortunately, due to a severe lapse of judgement or senior moment, he picked a brainwashed holy roller instead. His chosen one has a mind infected with superstitious beliefs like talking snakes and tongues, witches, anti-christs, etc. She belongs in the dark ages a thousand years ago rather than today as do the evangelical sheep that baa after her.

Posted by: ScienceMan | October 22, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

So. The Bush economic policies have been disastrous for the past 8 years, McCain is more of the same, out of touch, [the crack reporting “A” team at CNN I can't tell if] Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above etc. etc. etc.

This should be a complete and total cake walk for Obama - a slam dunk, right?

But it isn't.

So why are the polls so close? And the real polls ARE getting closer, not these flawed ones. Why has $150M in contributions made Obama’s position worse?

Why would it be necessary for the Lear Jet Liberals in the media to go extraordinary lengths (even for them) to trash McCain/Palin or even feel the need to support Obama in the first place. If Obama is your great hope and change agent, none of this support should even be needed. Right?

So what is it about Obama’s experience, achievements, and associations are you deep down truly afraid of?

Posted by: terrago | October 22, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain and Governor Palin, please, please, please keep campaigning EXACTLY as you are now doing. You will not only ensure an Obama victory, but also help this country by relegating the Republican Party to the dustbin of history where it belongs. The challenges of the 21st century require 21st century thinking, not 1950s McCarthyism. The sooner the evangelicals are shunted to the sidelines, the better. Thanks to them, we as a nation are ill-prepared for the present, let alone the future. November 5 can't come fast enough.

Posted by: Steven | October 23, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Most of the Republican posters here seem to live in a self-isolating echo chamber. You don't like the ABC-Post polls because they're "in the tank" for Obama? Okay. Then how about taking a look at the Rasmussen numbers, the polling organization used by Fox News? You'll know they will be "fair and balanced", right? I don't think you're going to like the Rasmussen numbers either.

Not that it matters, but I'm a registered Independent who supports neither major party candidate. (I will write in a name.) But I hope that this election provides a massive repudiation of Republican fear-and-smear tactics and a massive repudiation of the last 8 years of Republican deception, incompetence, and misrule. I think it will.

I'm really looking forward to election night. I'm going to stay up all night to watch the tsunami go from time zone to time zone-- all the way to Young and Stevens going down in flames in Alaska.


Posted by: IceNine | October 23, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Faith without works is dead...go back and read your Bible, thumper. All you guys should be raptured already for giving us GWB twice..the WORST PRESIDENT EVER. And now you want to sneak in Palin, that speaking-in-tongues moose killer?! Not this time losers.

Posted by: LeftCoaster64 | October 23, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

The five former secretaries of state who support McCain--Henry Kissinger, James Baker, George Shultz, Alexander Haig, and Lawrence Eagleburger--declared their support back in January 2008, seven months McCain selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. So the question arises: Would these statesmen have supported McCain had they known who his running mate would be? Have they made public their opinion of Sarah Palin? Do they think she's qualified to serve as VP?

C. Navarro

Posted by: Carlos NAVARRO | October 23, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Why is everyone so angry. The act of voting should be celebrated and rejoiced. It seems, at this point, to be an excuse for people to be ugly. I support Obama because he is smarter, wiser, more inspiring and is a better organizer than McCain. That does not make McCain a bad person. McCain's campaign has done him a disservice. He is much better than his campaign has allowed him to be.

Posted by: Franklin | October 23, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard of Ayer's book "Prarie Fire?" Written in 1974.

Interestingly enough, amongst other people, the book is dedicated to Sirhan Sirhan, the palestinian who murdered Bobby Kennedy.

It will be interesting to see how the Obama hater's wiggle out of this one.

It will be VERY interesting to see how the Kennedy family wiggles out of their Obama support.

But then again, maybe they didn't like Bobby.....

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I used to admire Sen. McCain. As a matter of fact I bought and read his book. At present I am totally disgusted on how he is campaigning. He is supposed to be a decorated war hero and an honorable man. Now I am asking myself where is my war hero and what happen to his honor. Disgusting!!!

Posted by: Al Ram | October 23, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

In response to some of the comments here by ladyjane1: speaking as a Jewish American and very strong supporter of Israel, I find it offensive that right-wingers in this country equate "Muslim" or "Arab" with being a bad American, as when Johnny Mac told the confused lady in the red shirt, "No, Obama isn't an Arab, he's a good person." That's racist and un-American.

The many Arabs and Muslims who are American citizens are just as patriotic as everyone else. I may disagree with them on some important issues, but they have the same concerns as the rest of us: earning a living and providing for their families, having uncontaminated food, air and water and a secure future in a democracy.

Posted by: Jersey Bob | October 23, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I voted twice for Bush and he had no experience in 2000, but sure got a lot of experience by 2004. And so what if Palin got
$150,000.00 worth of clothes. I mean, do the math, that 25 full outfits, from shoes to jackets for only six thousand dollars an outfit.
That's how much it costs at Wallmart or Sears. She's gotta look good, so the people see the real American she is.

Posted by: RushBot | October 23, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

The way Republicans have thrown Colin Powell under the bus sickens me. He has sacrificed for his country, supported the Republican party for decades, and now his own party is treating him with the exact disdain and smears that he says have alienated him. Instead of throwing the various conservatives who are disenfranchised with the party under the bus, why not debate them, or ask them what can be done to bring them back. Instead Powell, an American hero is treated horribly when he does not toe the party line. He could have spoken the truth about the terrible way Bush handled the war and destroyed him, but he has kept silent on matters that could truly doom the Republican brand and party. He has never tried to shirk his responsibility in the war and now people are treating him like this? It makes me wonder what took ME so long to leave the Republican party.

I am a lifelong Republican and I will NOT be voting for McCain because of the disgusting way he has handled his campaign and in the way Republicans are choosing to fight for their causes with hate mongering, fear mongering, calling people anti-American for disagreeing with them, and thrusting an unready, intellectual lightweight like Palin upon us while they chant "honor, experience, and country first!" I hope Obama wins and turns this country around.

Posted by: Carl | October 23, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Is anyone doing exit polling of those that have voted this week?

Posted by: Joe | October 23, 2008 1:40 AM | Report abuse

The way Republicans have thrown Colin Powell under the bus sickens me

Colin Powell threw the gop under the bus. This ingrate actually had the gall to call the gop "narrow."

If it were not for the gop - Powell would be in military retirement looking for a part time job.

It wasn't the left who made him the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs - it was the GOP

It wasn't the left who made him the first black Secretary of State - it was the GOP.

But the gop is narrow.

Right, Colin - you keep thinking that.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Regardless of one believes were Powell's motivations, and regardless of one's views on his culpability in the events leading to the ill-fated Iraq war, it was a very fine speech he gave on Sunday's "Meet the Press", and well worth watching (you can see it on their website).

The highpoint of Powell's speech: "Well, the correct answer is: He is not a Muslim. He's a Christian. He's always been a Christian. But the *really* right answer is: What if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer is: No, that's not America."

Wise words from a good man.

I am really quite tired of Rovian Republicans demonizing everything and everyone that's outside of their narrow and bigoted base. It is neither fair - nor helpful.

Posted by: Paul | October 23, 2008 2:19 AM | Report abuse

the AP poll is full of holes, lets look at all the polls
Rasmussen 51-45 Obama
Fox News 49-40 Obama
Zogby 52-42 Obama
Gallup 52-44 Obama
So I guess they are all for Obama, and even FOX NEWS!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 2:29 AM | Report abuse

AND JUST HOW WOULD OBAMA ADDRESS AN EMP MISSILE ATTACK FROM AN IRANIAN FREIGHTER THAT WAS SCUTTLED AT SEA AFTER THE LAUNCH?

A NUCLEAR ARMED SHAHAB-3 MISSLE, EXPLODING 300 MILES OVER ANY MAJOR US CITY WOULD CREATE ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSES.

GAMMA RAYS SCATTER IN WHAT IS CALLED THE COMPTON EFFECT AND 3 SEPARATE PULSES DISABLE CONSUMER ELECTRONICS, SOME AUTOMOBILES, AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY,

THE HUNDREDS OF LARGE TRANSFORMERS THAT DISTRIBUTE POWER THRUOUT THE USA.

ALL OF OUR LIGHTS, REFRIGERATORS, TVs AND RADIOS STOP RUNNING [EXCEPT VACUUM TUBE MODELS WITH INDEPENDENT POWER GENERATORS.]

FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, MOST COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT ARE RENDERED USELESS.

SUCH AN EMP [ELECTROMAGNETIC PULSE] ATTACK WOULD EFFECTIVELY THROW AMERICA BACK INTO THE EARLY 19TH CENTURY.

PERHAPS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF US WOULD DIE FROM LACK OF FOOD AND WATER AND AS A RESULT OF SOCIAL BREAKDOWN.
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NOT LIKELY UNDER A MCCAIN PRESIDENCY ----

SO DO YOU FEEL LUCKY ????????

[REMEMBER MAGNUM FORCE WITH CLINT EASTWOOD,

'I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING -- DID HE FIRE 5 SHOTS, OR WAS IT 6 ? WELL, I DON'T RIGHTLY REMEMBER, BUT SEEING AS THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL HANDGUN IN THE WHOLE WORLD -- WHY IT COULD BLOW YOUR HEAD CLEAN OFF --- DO YOU FEEL LUCKY -- WELL DO YA SCUM ???' ---- WHERE ONLY THE INSANE 'FELT LUCKY' MUCH TO CLINT'S 44 MAGNUM'S APPRECIATION.

SO DO WE FEEL LUCKY TOO ?????????

Posted by: brucerealtor | October 23, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

CHANCES ARE:PALIN AND McCAIN WILL WIN THE ELECTION.WHY? BECAUSE WE HUMANS CANNOT STOP CERTAIN HISTORICAL DYNAMICS. COUPLE THAT WITH A SOCIETY DESPERATELY HELL-BENT ON EXPEDITING ITS OWN DEMISE AND WE HAVE A RECIPE FOR PROLONG GUFFAWS AND "NINETY-SIX TEARS." REMEMBER THAT SONG? PLEASE!!!

McCAIN AND PALIN????????????????? WHAT KIND OF DRUGS ARE WE ON????????????? THE NEXT FOUR YEARS ARE GOING TO BE SADLY -- CHOCK-FULL OF LOUD LAUGHTER AND ANGER,NOT TO MENTION FINGER POINTING RAGE. LOOKOUT!

Posted by: MAAT9 | October 23, 2008 3:28 AM | Report abuse

What people say in polls and how they vote are often not the same thing. I don't think the election will be a landslide either way. I hope and pray enough people really think about the campaigns the two candidates have run before they vote.

McCain scares me to death, lurching as he does from one side of an issue to the other, looking more and more unhealthy and confused as he does so. A Palin presidency is a serious possibility and that needs to be factored in to the voting decision. Other than hard-core right wing fundies and horny moronic males, can anyone possibly contemplate the possibility of Sarah Palin as president with equanimity?

Posted by: Helena Montana | October 23, 2008 3:35 AM | Report abuse

Powell gave Obama a nice bump. But McCain has helped Obama immeasurably with his complete recklessness and total lack of inner certitude.

Nevertheless, the true winner in all this is Barack Obama himself.

He has demonstrated these past two years to the American people to be a phenomenally mature, intelligent, upright, unflappable, sensitive, and strong leader. He is maybe a twice-in-a-century caliber individual.

And that makes us the winner, too. We are lucky to be alive during this man's tenure, at a time when our nation so desperately needs someone of his rare qualities. And with his youth, he will be on the world scene for another thirty years.

For the next three decades, kids coming up today and later will not be able to fathom the depths of George Bush's evil stupidity (as though ANY of us can!), nor will they understand why there was any question in October 2008 of who would rise to the top in this campaign, at the beginning of The Obama Era. "John McCain?" they'll ask, "Did some people actually EVER think that crazy man stood a chance?" (Meanwhile, Sarah Palin will only be known by those who watch comedy game shows.)

Posted by: Terry Carroll | October 23, 2008 3:38 AM | Report abuse

It sure will be fun to wake up on Nov 5 and bask in the knowledge that W's reign of stupidity will be over!!!

As a pro-McCain independent - originally - I could not believe that, at 72, he could pick Palin the imbecile.

I never voted for The Shrub though, so maybe I wouldn't have voted for ole' tongue-poppin McBlinky pants.

Posted by: McCain is bitter | October 23, 2008 3:49 AM | Report abuse

McCAIN SAYS HE'S BEEN TESTED FOR WAR.TELL ME WHERE? IN THE HANOI HILTON HOTEL,WHILE SOME 59,000 DIED IN VIETNAM AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS DODGED BULLETS AND EVADED CAPTURE?

IF McCAIN IS A HERO -- EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE AFOREMENTION GRUNTS IS A HERO. AND THOUSANDS WOULD HAVE FINISHED MUCH HIGHER THAN FIFTH FROM THE BOTTOM OF HIS OR HER CLASS AT THE NAVAL ACADEMY.

ASK HIS CLASSMATES ABOUT HIS NICKNAME AT THE ACADEMY.

HOWEVER,I GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR ONE THING -- HE'S STILL FOOLING THE UNTUTORED MASSES.

FURTHERMORE: WHAT IS McCAIN'S IQ?????

Posted by: MAAT9 | October 23, 2008 4:08 AM | Report abuse

DID THEY POLL WHITES IN RURAL AND SUBURBAN U.S.? NO.

Posted by: GRACE | October 23, 2008 5:23 AM | Report abuse

How's this for a conspiracy theory?
My guess is that as always the media moguls will direct their editorial staff to print inaccurate polls showing the McCain/Palin ticket is neck and neck with the Obama/Biden one, as the election draws closer. Then on election day surpirse surprise 2000 is revisisted with the republican Party winning( read...stealing) the election....and another 4 years of narrow minded, secretive, nepotistic and intolerable leaders.... God Help America!

Posted by: Home Boy USA | October 23, 2008 5:37 AM | Report abuse

Al Quaida supporters endorse McCain.

I wondered why? But then the penny dropped!

What would be Al Quaida without the Neocons and what would be the Neocons without Al Quaida and their War on Terror!

SCRATCH MY BACK AND I WILL SCRATCH YOURS

The Neocons & Al Quaida MOTTO!
FEAR, HATE & DIVISION ABOVE
HOPE, RATIONAL & UNITY!

Posted by: Nouri | October 23, 2008 5:40 AM | Report abuse

For those who were fooled by the AP poll, consider the internals:

"Among all 1,101 adults interviewed, the survey showed Obama ahead 47 percent to 37 percent. He was up by five points among registered voters."

What AP did was to use old demographic data (from 2000 and 2004) to determine likely voter status and Republican/Democrat breakdown. The poll is totally bogus. AP is in the business of selling news, and if they don't have any to sell, they create some.

Posted by: Mark F | October 23, 2008 5:59 AM | Report abuse

LarryG trumpets McCain on the basis that he "reaches across the aisle" while Obama has no record of doing so.

But for all of McCain's self-promotion on this issue, who's running the more partisan, less universal campaign? Obama's talking about the stance of both people on the issues; McCain's taking the traditional right wing approach of soundbite smears and anecdotal evidence that proves nothing but fools the electorate.

This shows me two things.

First, McCain has insufficient integrity, hence his inconsistent approach and his lurch to the right come election time - it's clear to me that you're voting for the Party rather than the man. OK this might change once he was in the office, but change into what? We just don't know.

And second, if either man were capable of weighing up issues and views in a non-partisan way it's Obama. Yes, he would have a liberal approach to issues, but at least he's considering them on their facts rather than their labels. He's the more thoughtful candidate and has better judgement. And, unlike his opponent, he hasn't alienated half of the political landscape in the process.

This really is a no contest decision.

Posted by: Richard C | October 23, 2008 6:23 AM | Report abuse

If you have an undecided swing voter friend, remember: Friends don't let friends vote for extremists.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2293196/pinch-yourself.thtml

You have to pinch yourself – a Marxisant radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshiped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it’s considered impolite to say so.[end quote]

Posted by: zjr78xva | October 23, 2008 6:36 AM | Report abuse

I see a lot of people asking what makes Obama qualified and a lot of answers, but nobody really gets to the bottom line.

Obama is exceptionally intelligent. He graduated magna cum laude ('with high honors' for you conservatives) from Harvard Law. He got in because he earned it and had loans, grants and scholarships pay for it.

McCain finished 894 out of 899 at Annapolis. If his father and grandfather weren't admirals, he'd never have gotten in. He might be the very first naval aviator to finish in the bottom 1% of his class at Annapolis. He's another silver spooner looking to get out from behind his father's shadow.

So to simplify:

Obama = smart

McCain = not very smart

When facing potential economic apocolypse, I want the smartest guy in the room in my corner.

Posted by: Vic | October 23, 2008 6:44 AM | Report abuse

I'm happy to see all the denial among the Repubs... nothing will ensure 16 years in the wilderness like blaming your failings on externals.

Guess what - the country is getting more urban, more educated, more diverse, and ... less conservative, especially less socially conservative. Or to put it in Palin terms ... less American.

Posted by: Josh | October 23, 2008 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Why would Powell endorse someone who finished 3rd from the bottom of his class in the military. Makes outlandish claims that his opponent doesn't know what he's talking about with foreign policy because he mentioned if needed we would put troops in pakistan, then has no answer when he is cited saying the same or worse 3 times blantantly. And someone who picks a runningmate who words show she knows less than the average american about foreign policy. Powell left the Bush administration because he disagreed with their policy, meanwhile McCain voted with him 90% of the time. What makes you ingrates who say "powell picked him because he's african american, you'd have to be stupid to vote for Barack", think Palin would go against his own intelligence and endorse a McCain who may be entering his final years/Palin ticket, as opposed to the future of this country and the middle class in Obama/Biden

Posted by: Question | October 23, 2008 7:12 AM | Report abuse

ladyjane1 some of what you talk is pure and utter rubbish, longwinded - to say the least, and only serves to mislead and confuse - I am not convinced.

as the saying goes... If you can't convince them, confuse them.

ladyjane1, you manage this well but you neither confuse or convince me - least of all convince me!

Posted by: jaywalks | October 23, 2008 7:48 AM | Report abuse

If the GOP and their right wing disciples don't manipulate the election again like in 2004 Obama can really win.
But you don't know which vicious plan the devil (Rove & Co) has in his pocket.

Posted by: Jimbo | October 23, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Precisely what foreign experience has McCain got beside bombing Vietnamese civilians to bits, being a POW, thinking it was fine to bomb Iraqis to bits and so on.

He has never actually done anything in foreign policy except stop the search for MIA's and abuse his fellow citizens.

He has a lousy reputation overseas, is seen as just another Bush mob toadie and he has chosen that fool.

How dopey are the US citizens if they think that gives him foreign policy or national security credentials?

Any moron can be a POW.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

There is a creeping suggestion the opinion polls are being fixed for Obama. But why can't the GOP arrange it's own polls to show us how it's 'washed out candidate' is doing terrific on the trail?

You can't stop a man whose time has come. If you don't like how Obama is doing please take the next flight to hell.

Posted by: Ngo Ingei | October 23, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Are some people in the US so thick they don't get the bit about 8 years in state congress in Illinois, 4 years in federal congress and 12 years as a constitutional law lecturer - it makes for the perfect mix as a president.

Haven't you had enough of morons like Bush?

Posted by: Marilyn | October 23, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Many have mentioned McCain's previous ability "to reach across the aisle" on issues. Unfortunately, his aggressive campaign has spent most of the capital he has.

The ugly, ruthless attacks by his campaign and other republicans are going to ensure a divided Congress if he is elected. After his Republican supporters speaking of "un-American" members of Congress (clearly a jab at Democrats), crying "socialist", and directly accusing Obama of being a terrorist who is going to side with him now from the Democratic side of Congress?

Obama has shown to be much more steady and intelligent. You may not like his policies, but he clearly has a deeper understanding of the complex issues facing the country. McCain seems to come up with a new, erratic strategy to fix each problem. He is much more inclined to make rash judgments and strongly stand by them.

Posted by: b | October 23, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Blah blah liberal...Blah blah socialist...Blah blah Ayers...Blah blah Joe the Plumber...Blah blah muslim...Blah blah inexperience.

Are mindless republican talking points giving you the blahs? Cure = take 2 aspirin and vote Obama/Biden on landslide day (er, I mean election day).

Posted by: Jack | October 23, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

This race is so over for McCain/Palin. I think the Obama/Palin ticket will win by a landslide. The polls do not include mewly registered voters. In my opinion, Obama will win the race with about 320-350 Electoral votes.I do believe the polls will tighten a bit, but, BcCain will not win PA, MN, or VA, NM. And I think CO will go to Obama

Posted by: Denise | October 23, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

What a pack of loser you comment writers are. A blithering gaggle of who can sound the crudest and most bitter. By your writings, there are obviously no women in your lives, and you are the loudest at any gathering. You sit around waiting for the morning edition online so you can be first to push your twisted thoughts before the awakening public. And you pat yourselves on the back. You have no friends, and any moments spent in your presence is a clear glimpse of life in Hades. The one takeoff on the Cruise movie is the best example of a loser who thinks he has written something clever, and he is a symbol of the rest of you. Losers looking for approval.

Posted by: lorenzo jones | October 23, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

The Republican party is imploding

Posted by: J.C. | October 23, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

what does McCain mean by "I've been tested"? Does he assume no other nation would try anything during his presidency? Why would he assume that? Does he imply that his response would be "swift and deadly"? Is that what he means? His response implies that he always responds appropraitely yet even he says his decisions can be impulsive and later regretted. He has been tested and found failing as often as not.

Posted by: R lorion | October 23, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

In response to the post that asks "What makes you think Obama is qualified to be President"-

Republicans have had George W Bush running the country for 2 loooong terms (feels like half my lifetime) I think quite frankly they aren't entitled to lecture us about 'qualifications'. How about a basic IQ, ability to pronounce 'Nuclear', not groping female heads of state, not starting wars for ol' Poppy Bush..

Posted by: Mike C | October 23, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Sorry - I still don't get it. What makes Obama qualified to be President?
- spent time as youth in Indonesia?
- played High school basketball?
- community organizer?
- 143 days as US Senator?
- Because we WANT to believe?
- Some fluff about "change?"

Posted by: pgr88 | October 22, 2008 5:55 PM
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He's qualified because he's not a U.S. citizen.
He's qualified because Hitler would recoil if he knew the truth about Darth Obama and infanticide.
He's qualified because he despises white Americans.
He's qualified because he's made the election about race--anybody that doesn't vote for him is a racist.
He's qualified because he wants to spread the wealth. Any student who gets an A in Communist History class this morning at We Hate America University should be forced to share her grade with those less fortunate.

Posted by: My Muslim Faith | October 23, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Another terror attack, would clearly be aimed at helping the wild swinging, overreactive McCain reach the White House. SInce the war in Iraq al Quaeda has never had so many recruits while the war continues to bankrupt our country, I just hope people realize that in a time of such a crisis Barrack Obama, is the one man who would truly be the most effective at going after terrorists. He will stalk them down using intelligence and guile. Obama is a determined fighter as well.

Posted by: Strongboy | October 23, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Another terror attack, would clearly be aimed at helping the wild swinging, overreactive McCain reach the White House. SInce the war in Iraq al Quaeda has never had so many recruits while the war continues to bankrupt our country, I just hope people realize that in a time of such a crisis Barrack Obama, is the one man who would truly be the most effective at going after terrorists. He will stalk them down using intelligence and guile. Obama is a determined fighter as well.

Posted by: Strongboy | October 23, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

This from this morning's Washington Times
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/23/mccain-lambastes-bush-years/

Straight talk from McCain aboard the "Straight Talk Air":

"We just let things get completely out of hand," he said of his own party's rule in the past eight years.

"Spending, the conduct of the war in Iraq for years, growth in the size of government, larger than any time since the Great Society, laying a $10 trillion debt on future generations of America, owing $500 billion to China, obviously, failure to both enforce and modernize the [financial] regulatory agencies that were designed for the 1930s and certainly not for the 21st century, failure to address the issue of climate change seriously," Mr. McCain said in an interview with The Washington Times aboard his campaign plane en route from New Hampshire to Ohio.

This from a man who proudly touted his own record of voting with the Bush administration >90% of the time, 'more than many of my Republican colleagues'.

So....Sen. McCain was a party in allowing things to get out of hand. And he offers no plan for changing things other than -- what, force of personality perhaps? The only logical conclusion is not to vote for him -- unless of course you'd like to continue to see things get out of hand they way they have for the eight years under the Bush administration.

The real question this raises is, does this man truly even want to be president, or is he unconsciously trying to subvert his own efforts?

Posted by: straight talk from McCain | October 23, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

I think the recent Conservative endorsements of Obama are starting to show that the Republican party is starting to show some sense. They are recognizing that their party has gone too far Right and that the people are not with them based upon thier 8 years of failure. A new generation of Republicans have to step up, stabalize and get away from their hate style politics. It's about ideas and should not be about character assasinations. Those who stylized themselves, as did Bachmann and Palin, with devisive style rhetoric are going down. The Republican Party can do better than this for the American People. To get my vote they ARE going to have to do better.

Posted by: John | October 23, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Tell me this folks, why is it when blacks vote for a white candidate at the expense of that person's black opponent, it goes unnoticed. But when blacks vote for another black, its simply because that candidate is black? Really? Well, black people in this country have been "loyally" supporting white candidates at the expense of black candidates since blacks have been given the right to vote! How often in this country's history has whites supported a black candidate over a white one? And now,
simply because of Colin Powell's qualified endorsement of Obama, Colin Powell is being
villified by his party by stating that he is supporting Obama because he's black? Here's my take...anyone, white or black who
is supporting John McCain is either a full blown idiot, or a closet racist. How can anyone in good conscious look at these two men and remotely think that McCain would be
a "better" President than Obama would? And what is this nonsense about "experience"?
What experience does John McCain have to be
POTUS? Being a POW? Gimme a break!!! If being locked up, and getting one's azz whup on a daily basis is a qualification for being POTUS, then I can assure you that
there are millions of young black men on our nation's streets who could be POTUS!!!

Posted by: CONFUSED... | October 23, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

If Obama wins he can always put Powell in charge of getting us out of Iraq since he did such a good job getting us in there. Who would ever have thought that the only weapon of mass destruction that ever would be found would be Colin Powell.

Posted by: funnypaysoff | October 23, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Seems like instead of facing reality and arguing the issues, old John is up to another gimmick, probably crafted by his sidekick and ghost author Mark Salter: John McCain is campaigning hard in PA where he is down by 10. Another gimmick to throw out another fictional narrative, this time that there is a comeback in the making. His campaigning there is an bank shot at places like VA and NC, where if he went to directly, would make him really appear desperate. Instead, he just appears desperate and willing to try to hide it. John, you've blown it, so go out in style and argue the issues. Enough of the act.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

So,once again the WAPO/ABC Poll is being
questioned heavily as AP shows only a one
point lead adn Rasmussen 4 points and that
once again,when coupled with the WAPO's own
readers comments tend to make WAPO and
ABC The Disneyland Clown Show have egg all
over your lying totally questionable faces?
So folks just remember WAPO/ABC News POLL
is the most totally unreliable poll of all!
Since Colin Powell has been overwhelming
condemned as a political opportunitst old
has been, and who only endorsed Obama to
curry favor for another big political job
as that is the story of this sleazy media
creation life,that has been a total failure
as Sec of State and Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs as well as, the fact that anything
written by sissy Chrissy the WAPO Shill
is always questionable to begin with here!
So silly sissy girlyman Chrissy you ought
to be ashamed of yourself for you BS here!

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | October 23, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Obama is obviously qualified constitutionally and qualified using the yardstick used for many other presidents...
Here is one reason he is APPROPRIATE for the job.....
I got this from a Time Magazine article by Joe Klein.

General David Petraeus deployed overwhelming force when he briefed Barack Obama and two other Senators in Baghdad last July. He knew Obama favored a 16-month timetable for the withdrawal of most U.S. troops from Iraq, and he wanted to make the strongest possible case against it. And so, after he had presented an array of maps and charts and PowerPoint slides describing the current situation on the ground in great detail, Petraeus closed with a vigorous plea for "maximum flexibility" going forward. Obama had a choice at that moment. He could thank Petraeus for the briefing and promise to take his views "under advisement." Or he could tell Petraeus what he really thought, a potentially contentious course of action — especially with a general not used to being confronted. Obama chose to speak his mind. "You know, if I were in your shoes, I would be making the exact same argument," he began. "Your job is to succeed in Iraq on as favorable terms as we can get. But my job as a potential Commander in Chief is to view your counsel and interests through the prism of our overall national security." Obama talked about the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, the financial costs of the occupation of Iraq, the stress it was putting on the military.

A "spirited" conversation ensued, one person who was in the room told me. "It wasn't a perfunctory recitation of talking points. They were arguing their respective positions, in a respectful way." The other two Senators — Chuck Hagel and Jack Reed — told Petraeus they agreed with Obama. According to both Obama and Petraeus, the meeting — which lasted twice as long as the usual congressional briefing — ended agreeably. Petraeus said he understood that Obama's perspective was, necessarily, going to be more strategic. Obama said that the timetable obviously would have to be flexible. But the Senator from Illinois had laid down his marker: if elected President, he would be in charge. Unlike George W. Bush, who had given Petraeus complete authority over the war — an unprecedented abdication of presidential responsibility (and unlike John McCain, whose hero worship of Petraeus bordered on the unseemly) — Obama would insist on a rigorous chain of command.

Posted by: veisalgia | October 23, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

LarryG, you say "In his brief Senate sojurn, best I can tell, [Obama] did absolutely nothing in a bipartisan manner." One example off the top of my head: The bill he cosponsored with Republican Dick Lugar in 2006 to keep terrorists from acquiring weapons such as antiaircraft missiles.

I'm voting for Obama because I love my country, and it's our civic responsibility to cast our ballot for the person we believe will best lead us.

Posted by: shantybird | October 23, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

In response to JH:

Stop eating those mushrooms. You wouldnt know change if it slapped you in the face.

Posted by: makluc | October 23, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

What's with the 4% who were pushed away by Powell's support. Are they purely casting their ballots based on who Powell doesn't support?

Posted by: linusbern | October 23, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Powell or not - there are a lot of Democrats for McCain - or rather, against OBAMA.

They way the suck-up media has covered for Obama, the way the DNC stole the nomination for him, and the corrupt caucus process are all reasons many Dems will NOT vote for Obama.

Posted by: pgr88 | October 23, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

How is it that polls by ABC-WaPost, both notoriously and officially in the tank for Obama, show him galloping off into the sunset while most other polls show McCain within the margin of error or - gasp - outright tied with the Messiah himself?

Actually, I think I answered my own question.

Posted by: Rory
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what's the question - how desperate you have to be to cherry pick a poll that supports your sad sack view of the world?

Posted by: LABC | October 23, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

W

Posted by: flipper49 | October 23, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Where in the world does the Post get this garbage? Every OTHER poll I've seen puts McCain up. You people will write ANYTHING to bolster the morale of you pals.

Posted by: flipper49 | October 23, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

October 23, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Barack Obama attracting 52% of the vote while John McCain earns 45%. That seven-point lead is Obama’s largest in nearly two weeks. This is also the first time since October 11 that the Democratic candidate has reached the 52% level of support, his highest total of the year.

Posted by: LABC | October 23, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

We all need to listen to Joe Biden. In one of his lucid moments, he told us that dictators around the world are waiting for the man-boy Obama to become President - so they can take advantage of his naivete and all the favors he owes to the far-left, who will be the ones to get him elected.

Posted by: pgr88 | October 23, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

People you have to be realistic. This paper creates their own polls, as well as the results, so results are dubious. Colin Powell helped nothing. Powell never accomplished enough in his military life to warrant obtaining general status. Read his own book.

Posted by: candyzky | October 23, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Thank you General Powell, for telling the truth.

We forgive you for lying to us about WMD. (And, by the way, we knew you were lying, as did Obama!!!!!!)

Posted by: queenskid | October 23, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

This post is poorly written and misleading.

"First on Powell - Two in 10 independent voters said they are more inclined to vote for Obama because of Powell's backing; 4 percent said they were nudged the other way."

What is that all about? 20% vs. 4%?

Consistency in statistics makes it much easier for the reader to understand the point.

Posted by: kimiko1231 | October 23, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Info - Since this is the Washington Post, perhaps that's why the Washington Post poll is being analyzed. [They have the internal data.]

As long as we're speaking of tanks, let's talk about yours. You grabbed a single poll. Let's look at the rest of them, shall we?

Rasmussen Reports Obama +7
Hotline/FD Obama +5
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Obama +12
FOX News Obama +9
Gallup (Traditional) Obama +5
Gallup (Expanded)* Obama +8
GWU/Battleground Obama +4
ABC News/Wash Post Obama +11
IBD/TIPP Obama +4
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl Obama +10
***Associated Press/GfK Obama +1***
Ipsos/McClatchy Obama +8
CNN/Opinion Research Obama +5
Pew Research Obama +14

Enjoy the swim.

"AP has it a one-point lead; and GW, two. Of course, no mention of this at the Compost. I wonder why?

Can it have something to do with a TANK?

Posted by: info"

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 23, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Senator Obama majored in Political Science and specialized in International Relations at Columbia U; earned a law degree at Harvard and graduated magna cum laude and was President of the Harvard Law Review. His professors have called him brilliant. Besides his community organizing work with Catholic churches on the South Side of Chicago, for 10 yrs he was a civil rights lawyer and professor of constitutional law. He served eight years in the Illinois Senate and was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2005. His many legislative accomplishments are documented on the U.S. Government web site.

Posted by: Katy7540 | October 23, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"I have a challenge for all you Obama devotees. Come up with one thing...just one...that he has done in his career to bring people together."

How about bringing enough people together to defeat the Clinton machine!

Do you need anything else? If you need one more thing...just one...wait until after the election and I'll be able to let you know that he also built a ground army to defeat the GOP.

Now, you name one...just one cogent, fact-based argument that Sarah Palin has given over the last few months. Caveats: Teleprompter reading doesn't count and smear campaigns don't count.

Posted by: bkhoward | October 23, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

To me, Powell's endorsement was historic. That's so because of what he said about Muslims. I learned today that there are five or six Muslims buried in section 60 of Arlington Cemetery, the section where they place soldiers killed in Iraq. Obama is NOT a Muslim, he is a Christian, but Muslims have as much right to be president as others do. We don't have religious qualifications for office. People of all faiths and no faith have been heroes in Iraq.

It took someone with Powell's distinction and authority to remind us of that. I understand there is to be an excellent HBO special on this issue. Maybe we should all watch it.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | October 23, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Sorry - I still don't get it. What makes Obama qualified to be President?
- spent time as youth in Indonesia?
- played High school basketball?
- community organizer?
- 143 days as US Senator?
- Because we WANT to believe?
- Some fluff about "change?"

Posted by: pgr88 | October 22, 2008 5:55 PM
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Ok idiot let's try this again.
OBAMA's EXPERIENCE IN A NUTSHELL:
Obama is the first African American to be nominated by a major political party for president.[1] A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud; climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel. After announcing his presidential campaign in February 2007, Obama emphasized withdrawing American troops from Iraq, energy independence, decreasing the influence of lobbyists, and promoting universal health care as top national priorities.

B.A in political science from Columbia University, with a specialization in international relations
J.D. in Law from Harvard, graduated magna Cum- laude; President of the Harvard Law Review
12 years (92-04) teaching constitutional law
7 years State Senator: sponsored more than 800 bills
4 years Senator for Illinois, a state with 12.8 million people

I guess you repugs can't read. If you're still confused, it's because you're an idiot

Posted by: gabbamonkey | October 23, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Sorry - I still don't get it. What makes Obama qualified to be President? (A real person with real ideas, educated, has great judgement, and cares about all of America, not just the rich.)
- spent time as youth in Indonesia? (Great cultural experience, hope he learned alot about how people in other countries live and believe)
- played High school basketball? (so what)
- community organizer? (on of the most impressive and important skills he will ever need as president. He has learned what all candidates should be required to learn before applying for presidency, and that is to go to the bottom of the bottom and learn to have compassion, empathy, street skills, no what is happening to the bottom mass rather than the top 5% of a country. This is something that no man or woman can really know while they are living large and never have real contact with real Americans. You put this expose with the great education and leadership skills Obama has and you have a real president, made in America!)
- 143 days as US Senator? (8 years as a state senator, but you would never want to give him that credit would you. Like being a POW is a qualification to be president. That is not a skill that will help Americans during economic hard times, it will only help the warmonger pretend like he knows what to do to win a war. Why have we not won the war, if he knows so much?) I guess the death of my friends does not matter until I cast a vote for your sick POW.)
- Because we WANT to believe? (Yes we want to believe, and would have been able to believe in McCain, but why would we beleive in someone that can't get the first real decision right? He chose a dip stick for VP, please! Why would we believe in him, when he doesn't know a thing about the economy. We have to live regardless of war or no war and that means we need a president that knows how to handle money and it is certainly not McCain.) We also need a president and VP that takes their job serious, and do not act like little children. McCain and Palkn are a real joke and their campaign is run like little children trying to score points against one another with laughter and jokes and no substance. Avoid dealing with the real issues to score points. Do you think Americans are laughing as they lose their homes, cannot pay for food, can't pay for gas, whil Palin goes on a 150,000 shopping spree? You my friend are a joke!
- Some fluff about "change?" You call it fluff but your candidate is always attempting to steal the "change" everyday on the stump. Well, he and Bush have already stolen my change, in fact that is how I have had to pay for gas for the past few months.

You need to get real with yourself. Palin is not ready to be president if McCain meets death, Joe Biden would be prepared and ready, you think about that choice McCain put upon the American people.
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Does this answer your questions.

Posted by: afrederick | October 23, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Everyone believing Obama is not qualified to be POTUS, please check the U.S. Constitution. As it has been said, I know why you are not voting for Obama, tell me why you're voting for McCain.

Posted by: unitedwestand4 | October 23, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I used to admire Sen. McCain. As a matter of fact I bought and read his book. At present I am totally disgusted on how he is campaigning. He is supposed to be a decorated war hero and an honorable man. Now I am asking myself where is my war hero and what happen to his honor. Disgusting!!!
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Cany you say Palin and Rove?

Posted by: afrederick | October 23, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Flipper 49,

What the hell are you talking about? No poll shows McCain ahead. And as for that AP Poll, it's very interesting that the internals of the poll shows Obama with a 10 point lead. Also they decided to weight evangelicals as 45% of likely voters when at most they are 23%. They weighted Southerners as 36% when they aren't that prevalent in the country. Of course McCain looks better if you weight "likely" voters in unrealistic and magical ways.

Posted by: ObamaWins1 | October 23, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

The goofballs on the right have nothing! It's the same mindless drivel spewed over and over without a bit of substance.

Here's McCain's own words when someone asked if taxing the rich at a higher rate was socialism:

"Here's what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more."

He was also against the Bush tax cuts.

McCain is using the "socialist" meme because it works on the rubes who don't have a clue about socialism.

Obama's proposal to restore the rates to Clinton era levels is not a burden. Particularly when you consider that top earners were taxed at a 91% rate under Eisenhower.

Instead of these endless character attacks why don't your right wingers explain what your side will do to pull this nation out of the ditch.

Posted by: leeburl | October 23, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"Honestly I feel sorry for the Democrats, they may not win another presidential election in our time (after Palin '12 and '16)"

Now THAT is the funniest thing I have ever read in my life!!!!!!!!!!!! You have to be joking.

Posted by: Lauren2 | October 23, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

America's Reformation begins!

Expensive vodka and stinky bud for the 4th!
This is gonna be fun!

Posted by: kase | October 23, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Colin Powell: an example of racism trumping principle. With his son still a supporter of McCain, Thanksgiving should be interesting at the Powell table.
_____

Which one is the racist?

Three questions:

How many in your financial circumstances can afford to spend $150,000 [of other people's money] for clothes within 6 weeks?

Is Palin the first white Welfare Queen?

Where's Osama bin Laden?

Okay, a bonus:

"Joe the [Unlicensed] Plumber" (real name Samuel) earns $40,000.00 per year. It would take him almost 4 years to earn $150,000. How many down-ticket Republicans will lose their seats for lack of that $150,000 in desperately-needed campaign funds?

Last but not least, my "liberal-biased" comment: HHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAHAAAA!!!!!!

Posted by: JNagarya | October 23, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: gabbamonkey

B.A in political science from Columbia University, with a specialization in international relations

J.D. in Law from Harvard, graduated magna Cum- laude; President of the Harvard Law Review

12 years (92-04) teaching constitutional law
7 years State Senator: sponsored more than 800 bills
4 years Senator for Illinois, a state with 12.8 million people

I guess you repugs can't read. If you're still confused, it's because you're an idiot.
-------------------------------------------
Actually Mr. Monkey, you are the idiot. First of all, no one even remembers Obama at either university. People who were there at the time Obama said he was, simply can not recall he ever attended. As for the Law Review thingy? Only one document could be found and it is poorly written, and has been compared to a freshman english composition essay. 800 bills? That is a stretch and there is no documentation to prove that either. Obama was in fact a visiting lecturer, but only in very small doses, it is not like he taught a class every day of every semester. He would be invited sometimes to speak and did so. Obama was in the U.S. senate for almost 2 years before running for President, he has hardly been doing his job as a representative of the people in Illinois, therefore Obama is a slacker. Actually, from those who actually knew Obama when, he was always a slacker. Here is what we do know:

Obama is friends with some strange characters, almost like "The Cabinet of Dr. Calagari," never know who is going to pop out next. He denied being friends with Bill Ayers, but wrote a book review praising Ayers' book (Like Ayers picked Obama out of the phone book of over 12 million people and said, "hey could you write a book review about my book, even though you don't know me." He hung out with a demented racist preacher for 20 years. He became friends with an Iranian con man who will soon be convicted (If Obama becomes president, Mr Rezko will be pardoned). He is friends with the gay priest, who is a whack job if there ever was one (I hate white people who pretend they are black when they are not). Obama has refused, through two different law suits, to produce a verifiable birth certificate (I mean really, what's the big deal Mr. Monkey?).

Posted by: candyzky | October 23, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Colin Powell: an example of racism trumping principle. With his son still a supporter of McCain, Thanksgiving should be interesting at the Powell table.
_____

Which one is the racist?

Three questions:

How many in your financial circumstances can afford to spend $150,000 [of other people's money] for clothes within 6 weeks?

Is Palin the first white Welfare Queen?

Where's Osama bin Laden?

Okay, a bonus:

"Joe the [Unlicensed] Plumber" (real name Samuel) earns $40,000.00 per year. It would take him almost 4 years to earn $150,000. How many down-ticket Republicans will lose their seats for lack of that $150,000 in desperately-needed campaign funds?

Last but not least, my "liberal-biased" comment: HHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAHAAAA!!!!!!

Posted by: JNagarya | October 23, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Given Colin's imeadite indorsement after Ole Joe's (gaffe)saying Obama will be quickly tested because or "on-the-job training" - I beleive we will see Israel attack Irans nuclear facilities before Nov. 4th....Ole Joe is scared - Obama is clueless in his Thespian world...

Posted by: seawolfR | October 23, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I've already cast my vote for Obama, and if the bumperstickers on the cars where I voted in East Tennessee are any barometer, Obama will do well here in solid Republicant territory.
At least Palin will have a nice outfit to where when she and McCain give their concession speech.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | October 23, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

candyzky

Are you off your rocker? Are you actually insinuating that Obama did not graduate from Harvard Law? Or that he isn't a US citizen?

Since you're the one making stupid and outrageous charges, perhaps you can provide documentation of your claim. WorldNutDaily or similar sites don't count.

Posted by: leeburl | October 23, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Sorry - I still don't get it. What makes McCain qualified to be President?

-- used family connections to avoid paying for the consequences of his actions and to buy his way into office (failing school, recklessly crashing planes, getting elected to Congress) [Just like George Bush]

-- had incredibly bad judgement about Iraq (said it would be quick, that Saddam did 9/11, that we didn't need more than 100,000 troops [before he said we had too few years later], that there were WMD) [Just like George Bush]

-- flip flopped on the wisdom of tax cuts targeted to the wealthy [at least Bush has been consistent]

-- gave information to the enemy

-- took favors from friend of the family that cost taxpayers billions in the S&L failures of the 80s (Charles Keating in case you don't know the name)

-- has angrily insulted other members of Congress of BOTH parties (way to win the friends in Congress ANY President needs to accomplish his or her agenda)

-- lied to the American people about "suspending" his campaign and by his grandstanding prolonged the current financial crisis

-- chose a mouth-breathing beauty queen with a secessionist husband to put a heartbeat away from the Presidency if he wins

I suppose I could go on and on, but America is waking up, rubbing it's eyes and saying, "Boy did I have a nightmare. We almost put another dumbass nutcase in the White House, along with his untrusty sidekick the Barracuda." I think the disaster his administration would be is evident to anyone except racist idiots.

Posted by: RealCalGal | October 23, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

To those who like to say Powell endorsed Obama just because he's black, why dont they also say that they and other white big wigs only want to endorse McCain because he's WHITE? Your racism is showing kids.
McCain is dangerously erratic and has anger issues. Palin is clueless about how the world works. Obama may not have years of experience but we've seen what state the country is in from those 'experienced' leaders. Vote Nov 4, vote Obama.

Posted by: edwhitey | October 23, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

What's really interesting to me is McCain holds a 19 point lead in the area of "Commander in Chief". This is simply because he served in the Navy and talks a lot of tough talk. The fact is just because you spent time in the Navy doesn't mean you can command. McCain had one, let me repeat that, ONE command during his entire time in the Navy. After that command, he wasn't offered another one. That's very telling. McCain's Navy career was fueled by his grandfather's and father's rank and connections, not by his talent as a leader. As a naval officer, he was not known for his leadership ability. We're seeing clear evidence of his lack of command ability in the disorganization of his campaign. Being a former military officer, I have to tell you that "command" is a lot more involved than wearing a uniform. Don't be fooled by McCain's POW rhetoric. Being in a prison camp for five years doesn't improve your leadership ability.

Posted by: ehperkins1971 | October 23, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

psst - don't fool the voters -
Repeat after me: The race is still close -
We need every vote for Obama -
So stop the idiotic polls -
We need every vote -
Obama is loosing -
Safe America and vote for Obama!

Posted by: pieceofcake | October 23, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Palin has dragged the ticket down. She presented the classic challenge of the ill-qualified individual in search of high position. It’s tough to overcome in the corporate world. In presidential politics, impossible.

In Palin's case, the employer is the U.S. public, and she presents problems that kept the McCain team busy. How do they present her as experienced, when two years ago she was mayor of an Alaskan village of 5,000? How can they cast her as “ready at 3 a.m.” when she has never taken part in a national debate on global issues? How can they depict her as qualified while continuing to say Obama is not? What sort of sample resume did she show Senator McCain?

For more, visit CareerUpshift.com.

Posted by: Paul123 | October 23, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

First ,the reason Obama isn't leading by 20 points is simple. RACE. Get over it right-wingers. And, no I am not African-American.

Second, why is Obama outspending McPalin? Easy, people this year are voting first with their wallets, because they can't imagine an irascible, tired old man with an overconfident moose hunter in the Whitehouse.

Third, Obama’s campaign has been well run, organized, focused and logical, led by a person with those qualities, Obama. McPalin has been run, by well just look at the chaos, tainted by Rove, misdirected by McCain and led down the sewer by a painted over Palin.

Forth, do like so many others are doing, vote with your head, not your butt.

Posted by: therightchoice123 | October 23, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Ponder the following:

What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including
a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)

What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem?

What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer distribution?

What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?

You could easily add to this list.

If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does.

It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.

Educational Background:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cu m Laude


Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. In History and B.A. In Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

John McCain:

United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:

Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho = 3 semesters - B.A. In Journalism

Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world.

You make the call.

Posted by: shoegal_69 | October 23, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

There are numerous reasons why I'm voting for Obama this election year. Most notably is the fear tactics used by the GOP and their supposed God-given monopoly on patriotism. It makes me sick that the GOP calls liberals and moderates who don't agree with their talking points un-American. I used to respect the GOP before they allowed the evangelical right to take over their party. I also do not believe McCain has the temperment and diplomatic skills to lead our nation at this critical time. The last thing we need is a chance at another war and continuing down the same path that G.W. has disastrously started. I also don't believe McCain will surround himself with the best people that have ALL Americans best interests at heart. I only have to look at his VP pick to know he will only pick those who appease the extreme views of the GOP. Finally, I honestly do not want to chance that McCain dies in office and President Palin takes over. That scares the living bejesus out of me.

Posted by: bajabenedik | October 23, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people are missing the import of the Powell endoresement. It is not changing liberal or independent minds, its kicking out the last legs from under mainstream republican support for McCain.

Liberals are not convinced by Powell, who continues to defend Bush's pre-war prevarications even though its clear he too was hood-winked by the White House. It's ordinary conservatives who now see their standard bearers furling their flags.

Remember, the reason why Bush had Powell gussied up with fraudulent "evidence" and sent to lie to the UN was because Powell had the most credibility of anyone who served in his administration---and he still does. That's why this is devastating.

Posted by: wharwood | October 23, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"We Need a President, Not Just a Commander-in-Chief" is an article written by George Lakoff and Joe Brewer of Rockridge Institute, This is exactly how we should be looking at the presidency. Note how they describe the role of protection - it is beyond the military. This is how we should be looking at the presidency and Commander-in-Chief - not in the narrow military sense. This is what an Obama Presidency will bring us.

Here's an excerpt:

The dual roles of government are protection and empowerment, as we have written elsewhere. Protection is not just military or police protection, but a wide range: consumer protection, worker protection, environmental protection, social security, protection from natural disasters and disease, and protection from economic devastation.

That is the major protective mission of the government. The protective job of the president is leadership, primarily in these areas, and also in military matters when our country is in serious danger of attack by a military force. Leadership in all of these areas places different requirements on a president:

* The ability to articulate those needs for protection so that the nation will comprehend them as overriding needs.
* The ability to get the country united behind plans for protecting Americans in all of those ways.
* The ability to inspire a generation of Americans to devote their lives and careers to these tasks.

Protection and leadership are vital issues in a presidential campaign. But the commander-in-chief frame hides them, and replaces them with a right-wing model of government and of the presidency.

http://www.rockridgenation.org/blog/archive/2008/03/17/ask-rockridge-we-need-a-president-not-just-a-commander-in-chief.html

Posted by: FauxReal | October 23, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

AP has it a one-point lead; and GW, two. Of course, no mention of this at the Compost. I wonder why?

Can it have something to do with a TANK?

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They polled with evangelists dude. Why the eff do you think it's at 1 percent...The only polled pro-lifers and Jesus freaks as I'm sure your part of that clan..Keep the church outta this please.

Posted by: solrac2002 | October 23, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

"within the margin of error or - gasp - outright tied with the Messiah himself?"

what polls would those be?

from RCP:
RCP National Average 50.1 42.7 Obama +7.4

Favorable Ratings +20.8 +12.8 Obama +8.0

Intrade Market Odds 86.0 13.6 -

Electoral College Obama McCain Spread
RCP Electoral Count 306 160 Obama +146
No Toss Up States 364 174 Obama +190
Battleground States Obama McCain Spread
Colorado 50.4 45.0 Obama +5.4
Ohio 49.7 43.7 Obama +6.0
Florida 47.6 46.6 Obama +1.0
Nevada 49.3 46.0 Obama +3.3
Missouri 48.0 45.3 Obama +2.7
North Carolina 49.2 47.2 Obama +2.0
Virginia 51.5 44.5 Obama +7.0

Posted by: jmp66 | October 23, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I find it unlikely that it was Powell's endorsement that has swayed independents so much as all he said during his endorsement - he made some very powerful and eloquent observations in explaining why he had come to admire and trust Obama and feel disappointment in McCain. Coming from someone in his position, that must have been very helpful for people who were in the process of thinking through some of the very same things they had also been concerned about.

Now, if only some other high profile people, especially respected religious leaders, would come forward and speak out against the frightening hatred and racism that's been stirred up recently. Those things have taken on a life of their own that will be spawning violence both during and after the election. Our nation has actually been set back and damaged by would-be "leaders" rather than being uplifted and inspired to greater ways of thinking and being.

Posted by: More0ver | October 23, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Only 12 more days! I'm sure gonna miss McCain and Palin's daily doses of humor, intentional or not...

www.redriverpak.wordpress.com

Posted by: pakulakm | October 23, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Since I will be gone during the election, I just mailed in my absentee ballot for Fl. Now to sit and wait...........

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 23, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

It's not true Obama is pulling away from McCain.

Barack Obama has been in a class all his own since the first day of this campaign twenty two months ago. Buoyed by truth, honesty and a clear intent to devote his life to making this country the best it can be, Barack Obama left McCain in the dust long ago.

Which will be the very thing McCain chokes on Nov 5th, while he wends his way back to Cornville, Arizona.

Then again, a man who doesn't know his house isn't in Sedona, isn't qualified to be in the White House.

John Kellermeyer

Posted by: John89 | October 23, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I am so tired of people claiming that Powell made his choice because of race. I think he was quite clear on how he made his choice. Are we to assume that when a white person runs for office that all white people will choose him because of his race. I really think we have some damaged people to think that all americans are shallow to buy this talk. I choose Obama because of the issues and I dont choose Mccain because first of all he talks very little about the issues and i don't believe 4 more years of this mess is good for my family or this nation. I also dont believe that Palin could lead a major high school in a metropolitan area. There are high schools who have more population than the area she has goverened.

Posted by: darryllancastermetrogrorg | October 23, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The Post poll is in line with most of he other polls-just look at "Real Clear" and you will see. Even Rassuman, a GOP pollster, shows Obama with a large lead, as does Gallop, Pew and Zogby. But us Obama supporters must not rest--the fight is not over. Get to work--volunteer now before it's too late and they have stolen it again!

Posted by: xkm97 | October 23, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Americans might ignore the thinking of Europeans, Asiens aso. But what if those Billions start to ignore the USA?
Because - with John McCain (a true Hero, ok!)- a new kind of "W" would get the red buttom beneath his thumb.
In London, Paris, Madrid, Berlin or Geneva - most of us want Mr. Obama to be elected. Not because he's a genius - but because he doesn't promise paradise.
Sorry for my bad English.
Nils vdh.

Posted by: vdh123 | October 23, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Powell certainly helps, but Obamas most effective helper is little Sarah from Alaska. Thanks to her McCain's star has steadily fallen. Her very existence undermines McCain's solidity and credibility as a trustworthy statesman able to make the right decisions in the interest of national security. One simply can't vote for a guy who risks the fate of 300 million people by hiring this person over the telephone as if she were a typist.

Posted by: dunnhaupt | October 23, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

...McCaint has announced that Joe Wurzelbacker is coming along on his campaign.....

McCaint has a new plan to jumpstart the economy and talk of his new tax plan for America....

Joe the Unlicenced Plumber will give informercials on how to.....

Snake a toilet with a common garden hose
Remove a bathtub and install a shower
Install a Waterheater and piping
Remove trapped food from your dishwasher
Repair a septic tank
Replace a Kitchen Sink

...all ways to save we Americans from paying a $250,000 dollar a year plumber from coming to your house..

And did I say that McCaint was going to give Joe Wurzelbacker the Unlicenced Plumber a tax credit???

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 23, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

A comment to IceNine who hopes the Republicans lose, but is going to write in a candidate. It it absolutely your right to vote for whomever you choose, but let me remind you of the votes for Nader in 2000 "because there is no difference between Bush and Gore." If you really want to boot out the Republicans, don't throw away your vote on a write-in candidate.

Posted by: llong9 | October 23, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

LarryG says:
"I have a challenge for all you Obama devotees. Come up with one thing...just one...that he has done in his career to bring people together. In his brief Senate sojurn, best I can tell, he did absolutely nothing in a bipartisan manner.
Don't know how he can be perceived as a uniter when he's done no reaching across the aisle like McCain repeatedly has. Bet you can't identify any."

Larry, you're on, and I set the bet as a Sarah Palin style $150K shopping spree at Nieman Marcus for the winner's spouse.

Obama has a spectacular record of bipartisan achievement on nuclear nonproliferation. In 2006 he reached across the aisle to Sen. Richard Lugar, Republican of Indiana. They traveled to multiple former Soviet countries, saw seriious deficiencies in their nonproliferation practices, and came back and drew up the Lugar-Obama bill to strengthen cooperative nuclear and anti-aircraft missile nonproliferation, which passed and was signed into law in 2007.

So LarryG, you lose your bet. Are you going to pay up?

Posted by: shermaro1 | October 23, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

pgr88-

Why is Obama qualified. His exposure/ viewpoint earned (being educated for a few years in Indonesia, having a multicultural family, being comfortable in his own skin) is certainly an asset in being President. If McCain can say with a straight face that Sarah Palin being a mother of 5 makes her qualified, then Obama's insight to help our nation negotiate a GLOBAL ISSUES is most certainly a qualification.

His community organizing experience has led him to have one of the MOST impressive GROUND game in election history, fundraising- connecting with ALL Americans. He is leading in ALL demographic groups. Incidentally, your personal insights are not data so save them for someone with less formal education. His experience with, and utilization of his organizing strategy has him beating the GOP in a 50 state strategy.

Obama's leadership style is balanced, steady, inquisitive, respectful, and probing in ways that he has able to EARN he respect of experts in the field such as Colin Powell. After knowing McCain for 25 years- McCain has been able to unravel whatever leadership credibility he has possibly earned during their history. Obama has shown PRESIDENTIAL leadership.

Sure, he hasn't crashed 5 planes, or had the experience of earning his place in a prestigious military academy just to graduate 3 from the bottom of the class, but Obama is just as qualified as McCain in this regard. He worked hard, graduated WITH HONORS from Harvard which makes him no intellectual slouch. So in this regard there is honor in hard work, sacrifice, and working your way up- which nothing McCain knows anything about. I WILL NOT EVEN DISCUSS THE ANTI-INTELLECTUALISM that your VP candidate promotes (how many schools? how many years? I want proof of her graduation...)

OBAMA IS SHOWING YOU RIGHT NOW that he is able to unite people. When he is elected by Democrats and Republicans- you will receive further proof. What Democrats have endorsed McCain over Obama (except for Lady DeRothschild cuz she has NO expertise in anything but being rich- like Cindy.) McCain is talking but not doing, Obama is talking and doing... ahh showing how he is qualified.

Stop drinking the GOP Kool Aid and believe the McCain Ads. The Proof is in front of you.

Posted by: evitaNYC | October 23, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Who are these independents anyway - this is truly the theater of the absurd. Came across a site that perfectly addresses the nonsense. www.buttheadpolice.com - vote for buttheads to get a rear end on their heads - if they don't already have one. It's hilarious.

Posted by: wakeupUSA1 | October 23, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Now I am for Obama. I was comfortable with McCain until The Rolling Stone's: Make-Believe Maverick
That was shocking to read; Sen. McCain is not fit for office.
Obama brings hope of the return of diplomacy to US foreign policy. The understanding of so many issues.

Posted by: pboatsman | October 23, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who still don't get why Al-Qaeda would prefer that John McCain be elected, think of "Thrilla in Manilla." Just like George Foreman exhausted his superior strength in Manilla, so will the U.S. lose its economical strength in Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan. Once the economic strength is lost, it will be a matter of time before the superiority of our army is also gone. For those who know something about history, the U.S., in part, came into existence as a result of the same type of strategical error alluded to above--the purchase of the Louisiana territory from Napoleon when he desperately needed money to support his army in Russia when it was being devastated by Russia's unforgiven winter.

McCain's insistence on total victory in Iraq/Afghanistan (whatever that means) will be our downfall, just as he went down over Hanoi by insisting on dropping his ordnance even though he had a locked SAM on him. Instead of taking immediate evasive actions, he waited until the SAM took his wing off, at which time he had no other choice but to eject from his plane right over a lake in the middle of downtown Hanoi. McCain is a poor tactician, just as managing his campaign has shown. Those who will vote for McCain on November 4th have no understanding that what we need in the White House is a real tactician, not some hotheaded, washed-up wannabe top-gun.

Carlos Jean-Gilles
Saint Louis, MO

Posted by: cjgnew | October 23, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

This election season has been the most amazing in my fifty-some-odd years of memory. Obama has impressed me more and more as time as gone on. His ability to run an adult, composed, organized campaign has contrasted sharply with McCain's 'all-over-the-map-name-calling-commie-Muslim-socialist-not-real-American' disaster of an effort.

I look forward to Barack Obama being President of ALL of the United States. He seems to absorbed the best of Lincoln, FDR and Bobby Kennedy.

The inner strength and humanity of Lincoln, the political acumen of FDR and the passion of Bobby Kennedy. There is much work to be done to repair this country. Let's get to work everybody.

Posted by: cfeher | October 23, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

One place Sen. Obama has brought people together is in this election; anecdotal, I know, but five Republicans, all successful businesspeople, in our morning coffee group are voting for Obama because they believe his economic plans are more realistic and because they think Sarah Palin is a disqualifier. One friend who has NEVER voted for a Democrat is doing so because of his college-age kids enthusiasm for a new direction, and because of his disgust at the Bush administration. Obama also brought people together in ethics legislation, work on loose nukes, and now in his foreign policy and economic teams. Republicans had their chance; it's time for a new direction.

Posted by: Larsontv | October 23, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Don't be confused by the "Obama isn't experienced" percentage. McCain has made Obama's alleged inexperience the central point of his campaign, so those responding "no" on experience may only be registering their general support for McCain; i.e., "experience" is a McCain buzz word, and the polls may not reflect people's real assessment of Obama's readiness.

The downward drift of the positives regarding McCain's qualifications, however, is probably more significant, and may represent a move by undecideds toward Obama, because those polled were not merely parroting the candidate's (or opposing candidate's) talking points -- i.e., voting the party line. Moreover, in questioning McCain's readiness to lead, they were rejecting the central plank in his platform. Not so good for McCain.

My take on this burst of activity by McCain in PA is that, contrary to his claims, McCain was told by his pollsters, not that the state was in play, but rather that he would lose PA and hence the election. He's in PA claiming that it's still a horse race in the hopes of creating the perception that it is one -- because, as we all know, perception is reality.

Posted by: RCTNYC | October 23, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Lets get to the end game.

Click on the link below then click on Obama button - it will lead to other Obama materials.

You can even use this button in your own "Support Obama" materials if you so inclined

Spread the message, the stakes are high

http://www.ucubd.com/Index.aspx?id=770&cid=3164

Posted by: LAThinker | October 23, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Now wait for the Fonz bounce...

Thanks, Opie

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/cc65ed650d

Posted by: le1burg | October 23, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I am so thankful that most intelligent Americans are fully aware of what is going on. The mean spiritedness of the Republican Party has gone much too far this time. The AD accusing Senator Obama of being a "terriorist" is horrible and should never have been allowed to be shown on TV. I feel these remarks were put out there in hopes that some crazo will take him out. How can Americans look each other in the face, knowing that this is how "dirty" the Republicans have gotten, in the spirit of winning. Just like the young man who quit his job in Wisconsin, I believe it was, because he had the horrible job of calling people and telling them the same lie about Senator Obama. He said that he just could not tell such a lie and quit his job yesterday. How does the Republican party get away with such disgusting behavior. They have put Senator Obama out there to be killed - like the man cried out in the audience at the Palin Rally - "kill him." LIES are behind many murders and as far as I am conerned, the Republican Party is no better than the KKK of old; "The Good ole boy network."

Posted by: wilmacartwright | October 23, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Essentially, we are dealing with two choices: Fear Vs. Hope. Even the Republicans are starting to realize that and are beginning to abandon ship. We've had eight years of fear-slinging and most people are fed up with it. The robocalls are an attempt to continue perpetuating the fear factor. It's disgusting!

Pam in Oregon

Posted by: pam27 | October 23, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

November 4, please come soon.

I am so sick and tired of those airhead republicans and throw up every day when I hear one of them speak. Reading the posts here confirms what I believe.

There are too may dumb arses in this country. Will they ever wake up?

Vote OBAMA and get the change we all deserve

Posted by: mackiejw | October 23, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Not to be mean, but I'll take Obama's experience over McCain who is acting senile these days, look at his choice for VP. Palin has too many problems to deal with in Alaska, troopergate, family expenditures etc.

Posted by: Lynette1 | October 23, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

MEMO TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS:
Vote!!!
You haven't won anything yet.
When the blessed day comes that America lives up to Jefferson's words in action, celebrate your share of the accomplishment but not at the defeat of the others - for though they may have lost, they are still your brothers, your countrymen. This is what Abraham Lincoln said when the Civil War was winding down.


MEMO TO OBAMA HATERS:
Bill Clinton? Jimmy Carter? FDR? JFK? Woodrow Wilson? Time will tell, won't it?

BTW, if you think nothing good can come from an Obama administration because you feel his past accomplishments lacking, perhaps you should look at the Resume of old Honest Abe:

-Some time in the Illinois legislature
-One term in the House of Representatives
-A losing Senatorial campaign against Steven A Douglas, including some profound debates
-previous work as a lawyer

One *cannot* claim Obama worthless as a President simply because you find his resume lacking, unless you also think that Abraham Lincoln was "useless because of his resume."

Have a nice day, ladies and gents!

Posted by: SonOfHistoryTeacher | October 23, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Considering McCain's been erratic, in some instances a loose cannon, and has displayed a lack of good judgment, and an inconsistent temperament, I'd be concerned that in a crisis McCain might act without thinking of the consequences.

Posted by: JaneB08 |
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I certainly agree, and if you compare campaigns, the smears against Obama are false.
McCain's bio is full to the brim with screw ups from youth to present time... including his penchant for crashing. Most of his multiple crashes were done in arrogance; irresponsible.
The one time he did as ordered, in Viet Nam, he knew he was in the bulls eye of the enemy and went for it anyway...
and to Obama's credit his campaign doesnt even go there!
The myth of McCain needs no exposing; his m.o. is to implode.

the biggest mistake America could make would be to let this loose cannon take the country down in flames.

Posted by: ukeman | October 23, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Pgr88 said:
Sorry - I still don't get it. What makes Obama qualified to be President?
- spent time as youth in Indonesia?
- played High school basketball?
- community organizer?
- 143 days as US Senator?
- Because we WANT to believe?
- Some fluff about "change?"

I say: Obama has travelled to many countries and have passed legistlations. Bush was a governor for four years. He was a party alcoholic animal and didn't stop until he was 40. He was also a graduate of yale with a C Average, and he is a certified idiot yet he became president.

McCain was on the way bottom of his graduating class. He crashed at least 4 planes, and didn't get kicked out for it because of his dad being an admiral. I salute McCain for being a POW, but it doesn't mean that he has the vision and wisdom to be POTUS. I'm sure you feel that way with Kerry.

Plus McCain has sold his sould to the right wing ingots. He is no longer the McCain I used to admire and revered. I would have voted for McCain if he was the same maverick just four years ago. McCain is so desperate that his mantra country first is now McCain First. He also was against deregulation. His campaign is full of vitriol. I concede that both campaigns distort the truth (but I bet you''d say that McCain's campaign is 100% true), but McCain is way over the top. He also hired the same consulting firm who trashed his family on the 2004 elections. How could someone stand so low? Where is his sense of pride and honor.. working with the same people who trashed his family? McCain has turned into a hypocritical, angry, lying, old man. It's a shame

Posted by: pgr88 | October 22, 2008 5:55 PM

Posted by: RenelCarolipio | October 23, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Ladyjane, your statements are valid regarding rising resentment of the West in several Islamic states.

However, you have to remember that many in those states have been horribly affected by the policies of Western states.

The despots who rule over many Islamic states have often received unqualified support from the United States. At first this was due to the US deciding that having dictator allies against the Soviet Union was a good idea, no matter what they did to their own people. Now, it is just about oil.

People in the rest of the world have longer historical memories than we do. Iran is a good case. During the Shah's rule, his secret police routinely suppressed freedom and used torture against legitimate political opponents and ordinary citizens.
The US gave his regime billions in military aid because we saw him as a bulwark against the USSR. We looked the other way when Iran's huge oil revenues went to his family and retainers, and not to his peoples' economic and social benefit.

We give billions to the Egyptian government, presumably because they have made peace w/ Israel. But look at how much suffering their people go through. Poverty, corruption, the inability to feed your family-do you think people would stand this for two days in this country? (For some below the media radar here, it is getting that way)

The same goes for the Palestinians. Sure, they elected Hamas.
But you might too if you couldn't find any way to keep from starving, except getting by on whatever the Israelis let the UN or the Red Cross supply?
This is a direct result of the policy our government has practiced for the last 8 years by refusing to get in there and do some serious diplomacy, and even some arm-twisting.


Posted by: MacMahler | October 23, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Who gives a rats ass about a Colin Powell endorsement. This is the scum bag who duped the American public into buying into the war in Iraq. It was his "credibility and respect" that convinced many many Americans that the war was necessary.He should be impeached with the others. SCREW HIM!

Posted by: cwhite31 | October 23, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Hum, Powell endorses because of race, but other republican leaders less prominent endorse because Obama would be a better president. Interesting that if you are Black and you vote for Obama it's because if race. That statement is...racist.

Posted by: Lynette1 | October 23, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Funny everytime a republican leader moves to Obama some excuse is given, oh it's because of this or that...how about it's because Obama/Biden are the better choice??? We don't have to be bullied into accepting McCain/Palin or be called unAmerican. We can freely choose Obama. What a great president he is going to be!!!!!

Posted by: Lynette1 | October 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what the 'polls' will show on 11/20 when the FEC shows that the Obama campaign spent nearly $20 per vote in this election? Funny thing is that the only bill Obama was really been involved with in his three years in the Senate was the campaign spending and ethics reform bill. I guess money in politics isn't the most important thing - it's the only thing...

Posted by: hariseldonsr | October 23, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Why don't McCain and Palin go to the major metropolitan areas in the battleground states? How do they expect to do well in those states otherwise?

Posted by: retiredzoomie | October 23, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I would like to start hearing people address McCain's statement about his being tested. He has been tested, as a soldier. Not as a President! He does not have the temperament to be President and I shudder to think of what could happen for him to be tested as a President. You think 8 years of Bush has been horrible, add into the mix the aggressive and explosive temperament and stubbornness of McCain. Our country needs the kind of leadership Obama can offer it as Collin Powell so eloquently stated.

Posted by: zenaby56 | October 23, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I've been to Scandavia and Benelux, two regions that have the HIGHEST taxation. And then I've been to places like Mexico and Russia, where tax evasion is RIDICULOUSLY easy, and almost no one pays taxes.

Scandanavia and Benelux have a standard of living we could only dream of. No ghettos, no crumbling roads or bridges, no schools failing their children, no abject poverty. Public transportation of such a high calibur that it looks futuristic, and EVERYTHING runs on time. Their law enforcement is considered "incorruptable" because of great benefits and pay, so corruption in law enforcement, immigration, customs officials etc is almost unheard of, compared to here where it is fairly common. Crime is the lowest in the world due to the fact that there is almost no poverty.

Then you go to Russia and Mexico... entire swaths of the country nothing but an enormous ghetto, corruption so commonplace that it's just ASSUMED that all the cops and other officials are on the take. Schools that look like they are about to fall down, infrastructure falling apart at the seams. Crime is the among the HIGHEST in the world.

I guess it's how you want to spend your money. Conservatives would rather live in a third world nation if it means they can afford more personal possessions by not paying taxes. Liberals would rather give up some personal luxery in exchange for a safe, prosperous, efficient, and well upkept nation.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: ConcertoNo9 | October 23, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

All right, LarryG, what are you willing to wager that there are no examples of Sen. Obama's reaching across the aisle? There is the bill creating the Internet database to display federal funding that he co-sponsored with my Republican Senator, Tom Coburn. Please pay up.

Posted by: johnkal | October 23, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Mark my word, regardless of what happens in 2008, Sarah Palin will NEVER be POTUS. Ever!

Posted by: larry23 | October 23, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

pgr88 said: Sorry - I still don't get it. What makes Obama qualified to be President?
- spent time as youth in Indonesia?
- played High school basketball?
- community organizer?
- 143 days as US Senator?
- Because we WANT to believe?
- Some fluff about "change?"

LOL.....Yeah, and we're still voting for him. If everything you said were true, this should have been a walkover for McCain. But he's still being thrashed!!! Doesn't say much about how he's run his campaign, does it?

Posted by: chris30338 | October 23, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Shoegal69

Wow, when you lay it all out like that...just wow. Great post!

Posted by: ConcertoNo9 | October 23, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Zena,
You missed the most important point- McCain was tested as a soldier, and FAILED. I respect that he served in the military, but if you check out his record at www.military.com, it is abysmal. He may have been brave, but bravery doesn't count for everything. His military record is one demeret after another, and 2 of his superiors are quoted in Rolling Stone last month as saying that the ONLY reason he didn't get kicked out of the service is because his admiral father intervened. While in uniform, at every opportunity he had to make a decision, he made the wrong one.

My husband, a LT in the 82nd airborn, put it this way

"McCain would have made a GREAT enlisted. He definitely had courage, patiotism, and stamina. But I would NEVER want that man in charge of a singal platoon, nevermind being commander in chief!"

Posted by: ConcertoNo9 | October 23, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The polls don't matter. The vote itself matters, or used to, before the GOP made a habit of stealing elections. 2008 will be stolen the same way they stole 2000 and 2004.

Posted by: bpso | October 23, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Please make your opinion count: VOTE.
No opinion counts unless you VOTE.

Increase your voting power by getting others to VOTE.
Please use the next 2 weeks encouraging others to VOTE!

Focus on making the DREAM COME TRUE: Obama '08

Posted by: ford9504 | October 23, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

The importance of General Powell's endorsement is evident from the ferocity with which it has been attacked. "Shoot the messenger" is the standard response. In this case, "It's all about race." This was echoed by Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan, several commentators on Fox News, and others. That Pat Buchanan went this way is particularly telling.

In addition to the race accusation, the other common attack on General Powell was misdirection, speak only to his secondary reasons, e.g. the negative tone of the campaign. The centerpiece of his reasoning was very briefly and powerfully stated: We have seen Governor Palin for 7 weeks. She is not qualified to be President. This brings into questions Senator McCain's judgement in choosing her. This point is underscored by polling showing the 55% of registered voters agree with General Powell on this point; 40% disagree.

Don

Posted by: DonKrieger | October 23, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Phony polls?

After polling 17 guys in my block, 100% of them (with no margin for error) determined that Obama lost to Hillary but the supers stole the nomination!

This now is a proven scientific fact!

Posted by: trace-sc | October 23, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

hariseldons,

Well said!

And the question is: who is behind the money machine, besides the media?

Posted by: trace-sc | October 23, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Anyone considering a vote for McCain would be better informed about Mr McCain by reading the Rolling Stone's article about the Arizona Senator:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: jalehw | October 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

To the undecided who have problems with Obama as commander in chief:
"A 22 nation survey by the BBC (British) preferred Obama to McCain by four to one". The leaders of America's allies are more comfortable working with Obama. The old style of Bush - and possibly McCain - of the US jumping into a fray unilaterally such as in Iraq and Afganistan is gone. We need the cooperation of the United Nation if we want to be respected and assume leadership in this world. Obama realise this, and our allies respected him for that. As for McCain / Palin, hmmm......

Posted by: nagamas1 | October 24, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Obabma will be a good commander and chief
watch funny videos http://www.frizle.com

Posted by: roverfind | October 24, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

The 'experience' poll is taking a hit on accuracy because I think on the Bush question, since there was no place to answer the question, Do you think he's too big an idiot to be our next president? - they had to express their answer to the elephant in the room question on his experience.

Consider what the numbers would probably have been if we'd been asking that question about each candidate and running mate regularly.... I contend it would have shown us what I've said all along, Bush and Palin have been made the scapegoats in this election. Incompetence vs incompetence has always been THE issue during this race and it's not Bush's incompetence or Palin's that's most disturbing. What's most disturbing is McCain's incompetence in following Bush so closely and choosing Palin to be our President if he should die before his term is up - his incompetence is pretty obvious. Yeah, I think McCain would garner a huge, "he's the biggest idiot" tick. That's not Bush's fault or Palin's, that's all on McCain.

Posted by: lolliedotcom | October 24, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Great for Obama he is winning in most of all the polls watch funny videos http://www.frizle.com

Posted by: roverfind | October 25, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

It's so interesting to see 85 percent of the same people who voted for BUSH are now voting for McCain.

Wow, have they learned nothing?
Only in America!

Posted by: vicbennettnet | October 29, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

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