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WaPo-ABC Daily Tracking - Release #1

Democrat Barack Obama enters the final two weeks of the presidential campaign holding a clear lead over Republican John McCain, aided by voters' focus on the shaky economy and by their perceptions that he is better equipped to handle those problems than his rival.

The new findings come from the first release of the Washington Post-ABC News daily tracking poll, which will provide a continuing look at the campaign between now and Nov. 4. The Post will offer daily updates on the state of the race in the morning newspaper and each day at 5:00 p.m. on, along with analysis of the numbers.

The new survey shows Obama leading McCain by 53 percent to 44 percent among likely voters, little changed from a separate Post-ABC News poll released last Monday. Among all registered voters, Obama's lead is 10 percentage points, 52 percent to 42 percent.

While those numbers are similar to a Post-ABC national poll released last week, before the third and final presidential debate, McCain has narrowed the gap with Obama on on several attributes, including "economic empathy." And for the first time, the percentage of voters saying that, as president, McCain would continue to lead in President Bush's direction has dipped under 50 percent.

  • Interest remains high - 90 percent of registered voters are closely following the election, 57 percent "very closely." Those numbers are inline with 2004 and higher than at this time in 2000.
  • Obama continues to benefit from an "enthusiasm gap," but McCain has narrowed the divide this week. 64 percent of Obama's backers are "very enthusiastic" about his candidacy; among McCain's, it's 40 percent (up from 31 percent before the final debate).
  • Issues - Economy continues to dominate: 53 percent say it's issue No. 1, followed by health care at 9 percent, Iraq 7 percent, terrorism 6 percent and energy policy 4 percent. 19 percent said "something else."
Trust on issues
  • Economy - Obama +16 (55-39), little changed from poll before final debate
  • Taxes - Obama +10 (52-42), unchanged
  • "Unexpected major crisis" - Obama +4 (49-45), down slightly from +9 (52-43), which had been Obama's first lead on the question
  • Better understands economic problems people are having - Obama +19 (55-36); here, McCain has trimmed what was a 31-point Obama advantage, with the change in McCain's direction almost entirely among independent white men.
  • Clearer plan for dealing with economic situation - Obama +18 (50-32), new question.
  • Would do more to change Washington - Obama +21 (56-35); here too, McCain has edged closer. Obama's margin was +34 before the debate. (Independent white men also the driving force here.)
  • Stronger leader - Obama +8 (51-43). Still a strong-point for Obama, but less so than his 56-39 advantage in previous poll. (Independent white men, again.)
  • More optimistic - Obama +32 (62-30), about as big as it was in late August
  • Better personality and temperament - Obama +17 (54-37), similar to late Sept.
  • Better represents your values - Obama +10 (53-43), his widest advantage of the campaign.
  • More honest and trustworthy - Obama +8 (48-40), a minor tick up from last week for the Democrat.

More from this poll in upcoming posts.

The Post-ABC national tracking poll started Oct. 16, the day after the final presidential debate, and continues through Nov. 3. Each day's release includes the results of a multiple-night track - a "rolling average" - of interviews with approximately 450 randomly-selected adults each day. This release reports the results from interviewing conducted Thursday through Sunday night, with 1,366 likely voters.

Interviews are conducted on traditional landline and cellular telephones. The results from the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. Error margins for subgroups are higher.

By Jon Cohen  |  October 20, 2008; 5:00 PM ET
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Prepare for a huge Down hit on the stock market if Obama gets elected!!!!

Posted by: Stock Crash | October 20, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to seal the deal further with economic specifics. He caught my interest with comments about equality in bankruptcy for homes (no, I'm solid, but it's unfair for Wall Street bankers to protect their multiple vacation homes, but not allow working class stiffs to protect the homestead. Obama may win me over, particularly as I see the rich (go to NY Times and check the blogs) start to squirm at the real thought of higher taxes. A good one at the NY Times was the highest rated pick about a "cost of living" exemption in NYC for "professionals." Funny how his diehard supporters say they will pay higher taxes, except that isn't fair. (I agree that top tax brackets need to be raised, but what's the point with all the loopholes that Obama's Hyde Park richie rich buddies will have). We shall see.

And, finally, ain't it amazing that Colin Powell testifies on Friday that Ted Stevens has "sterling character" and then endorses Obama on Sunday. Whewwwww. Nice.

Posted by: Middle Class Middle of the Road | October 20, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Darn right!

Of course this race will tighten...Obama will not win by 10 points. BUT he will win. McCain's electoral map is hopeless.

Obama will win ALL the Kerry states plus:

North Carolina
New Mexico

...and maybe more!

Posted by: dAVE | October 20, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Reality sets in! Republicans need to drink the Kool-Aid! OH YEEEAAAAHHHH!!!! Intolerance will not be tolerated with McCainiacs calling Obama a terrorist! Crush the neocons and their media syncophants! Annoy Fox News, their friends the Duke Lacrosse Rapists, and Richard Mellon Scaife!


Posted by: Bamas up in here!!! | October 20, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

What happened to "It's tightening!" Where's Cillizza?

Posted by: RollaMO | October 20, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

National polls and national daily tracking polls are interesting. The reality is that historically, national polls get close a week or two or just a few days to the election with a spread of one-to-three points.

So if Obama continues to maintain a national poll or a national daily tracking poll ahead of McCain by more than 3 points, He would most likely win the election by a landslide victory.

What about the Post/ABC doing national state by state tracking polls of the key battleground states? After all, the election is about electoral college votes!

Posted by: joe mett | October 20, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

:43 PM ET: Speaking on CNBC moments ago, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), one of the faces of the $700 billion Wall Street bailout/rescue, said that promised tax hikes under an Obama administration should be pushed back until the economy recovers.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the Democratic presidential candidate, has promised to raise several taxes on individuals making more than $250,000 per year and would raise the top tax bracket from 35 percent to 39 percent.

Doohhhhh!! Obama's gonna raise taxes, but he's not gonna raise taxes.

Hmmmm. The Hyde Park, Cambridge, Buckhead, and Westhchester and Greenwich masters are calling.

Yes, Obama received lots of small donations, but the big buck buddies he has always gravitated to have come calling, even before the election.

Let's see: Paulson, Goldman Sachs. His advisors Goldman Sachs. Chelsea Clinton: Hedge Funder. Joe Biden's kid: Hedge Funder. Joe Biden's Kid: Lobbyist. Obama's advisors: Rubin Et Al.

Yes. The Limousine Liberal Flip Flopper is true to predicted form.

Loopholes, "subtle nuance," subservience to his private donors, Hyde Park wealth, and Limousine Liberal policy, well on the way to DC.

5% of Americans, the wealthy, support Obama. Another 45% are morons. The remainder will pay the taxes. Joe Sixpack Plumber, here's your bill.


The Black Jimmy Carter. Endorsed by Colin Powell. And every wealthy urbanite who already shares control of 90% of America.

Posted by: Tax Hypocrisy Here We Come | October 20, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm maintaining an online compendium of Party ID composition for as many polls as possible. I'd like to request that the Post/ABC poll release its "internals." I invite everyone to visit my Party ID/Sample Weighting website at:

Posted by: Alan Reifman | October 20, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Yep. Obama the Gutless Wonder is going to appoint Rubin Et Al, the Clintonistas who ushered in deregulation in the final days, into office again to "fix" the system. The ones who broke it to their own obscene personal gain. Yep. Obama early on learned the value of a crooked dollar from banker Grandma. He restructured his district to include more Hyde Park wealth. He grovels to Wall Street and K Street. He is their pawn. We'll never see a rich person pay one extra dime. Yet again, the middle class will pay all the taxes. The rich will continue to offshore their wealth, eke loophole after loophole, and outsource the "bitter" class jobs. Until he becomes the Third World dictator that he has always dreamt of being.

Posted by: Tax backpedaling already | October 20, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing much remaining of the Republican Party. Only Christian Evangelicals, thugs, anti-gay, anti-abotion, pro-war, hooligans, and anti-Jesus people are left in the party.

Most people do not wish to be associated with hate and have therefore fled the Republican Party.

Posted by: Maddogg | October 20, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

All you "Crapheads" keep on with the toilet logic arguments about Obama-this and Obama-that.
It's time to step up and eradicate the neocon infestation once and for all.
Everyone who wants to can head up north without penalty. Take your money and your assets and get the heck out.
You will become citizens of a new sovereign nation: ALASKA.
You can have all the oil. You can have all the timber. You can spoil the environment.
You can behead all the non-believers.
You can ban abortion.
You can do whatever you want.....
After five years you can apply for a Vacation Visa - Good for a two-week visit.
This is voluntary for now.
After one year the AMERICA: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT law goes into effect, wherein those who habitually cause trouble here will be THROWN OUT. You will be put on a flight to Anchorage and you will be declared PERSONA NON GRATA..... GOODBYE - GOOD RIDDANCE.

Posted by: tomhere | October 20, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Since the start of the financial crisis, the world's wealthiest man, investor Warren Buffett, has been front and center.

Alice Schroeder says investor Warren Buffett has become a symbol of stability in American business.

He's advised Sen. Barack Obama on economic policy. He urged Congress to pass the $700 billion bailout bill. He bought stakes in Goldman Sachs and General Electric.

He wrote an op-ed piece in the New York Times saying he's buying stock in American companies now because he believes they will do well in the long run, citing as his rule: "Be greedy when others are fearful."

Great, man. I LOVE it to see that Obama is for the working man, not the greedy tycoons.

Let's see: Rubin, Summers, Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, Madonna, Woody Harrelson (the judge killer's son), the Communist Party USA dude in Hawaii, Krugman (Nobel winner who thinks you need a plumber's license to own a plumbing business), Powell (Ted Stevens has 'sterling' character, ET AL.

Nice to know the rich will get richer under Obama, and the hinterlands will be flattened and depopulated.

Whether it's the Khmer Rouge or Stalin, you can count on Left Wingers to be "more equal" than others.

Nice to see Franks is setting the stage for NOT raising taxes on Obama's wealthy donors.

Nice work, limousine liberals have.

Posted by: Steal from the Poor and Give to the Rich | October 20, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse


Buried in the depths of the polls Liberal Happy Talk is the precursor of Obamas defeat. The nugget of truth is BURIED in the story:

"And for the first time, the percentage of voters saying that, as president, McCain would continue to lead in President Bush's direction has dipped under 50 percent."

RESPONSE: This documents the effectiveness of McCains attack on Obama in Debate III.

This is the harbinger of Obama's loss.


ps--Where's the poll data?

If this is to be covered as a news story, shouldn't the data be published?

Posted by: JaxMax | October 20, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Who's the nut-case posting all the rediculous comments calling himself "Tax Hypocrisy" & "Tax backpedaling". First, the president can only propose a tax plan. If Congress passes a different plan, then the president can accept it or veto it. And to assume that all the rich cats are Obama friends, you must be on some ugly mind altering drug.

Posted by: John Brinckman | October 20, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Holy Cow - what a great idea! All Heil Palin of Alaska. Get rid of the hateful right wing neo-con scum and let them set up a 4th Reich in Alaska.

Posted by: Blondbomber | October 20, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Dirty Tricks and Nasty Treats. That's what McCain and Palin dish up every day. It's like sending your kids out to trick or treat and they bring home posion apples. Yes, McCain/Palin are spreading posion that is even more deadly then snake venom. The now have people campaigining as Muslims for GOP. It is the American way for people to vote for whomever the best person is, but McKane (not Able) is the worst of the dirty tricks. He must make a living writing the dirty trick soap operas

Posted by: mzbond | October 20, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

If you try to tracks the reporters views on "who's on first" so to speak, they flip flop in opinions more than all our politicians put together. Let's just have the news on which politician say what to whom and about the country's issues. Leave the reporters flip-flop opinions on the cutting room floor and let people make their own choices. I wish for TV & radios ads and debates where a politician talks about his or herself, letting us know what they've done or not done. I want to know what each politician plans to do and how they plan to do it. I want to know how each politician takes his or her constituants seriously. None of them accomplish this if they don't focus on themselves. Okay! Okay! I'm a dreamer in today's world of politics....but if the American people made it known they want to hear politicians talk about themselves and not the other party's candidate, maybe we can choose the better candidate....or at least be grownups politically in the USA and the world! I'm for polls once or twice a week at the most, because they don't serve any great purpose these days. The real "poll" is the day after election day when we know those who are chosen.

Posted by: Leah1946 | October 20, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse


(1) Last spring obama was “INEXPERIENCE”
(2) This early summer Obama was a “CELEBRITY”
(3) Then in August, Obama was called a TERRORIST…
(4) Last week Rep. Bachmann, a Republican, suggests “liberal” is UN-AMERICAN.
(5) Now McCain is calling Obama a SOCIALIST….


Instead of talking about:
1. The Economy
2. Health Care
3. Education
4. The War

McCain/Palin instead results to HATE ATTACKS on Obama... The chairman of the Virginia Republican Party Del. Jeffrey M. Frederick has compared Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama to Osama bin Laden…



Posted by: wvuweirton | October 20, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Internals? Just curious as to the poll weighting, so as to be able to compare to the other 5-6 daily tracking polls out there

Posted by: ghost | October 20, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

So McCain got his paranoid rightwing nutjobs like Joe the "plumber" back (from the Natural Law Party). They were too right wing for the GOP!

Middle America has settled on Obama.

Posted by: Elrod | October 20, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Tax backpedaling already wrote:

"blah, blah, blah, blah, oink, blah, puke, blah until [Obama] becomes the Third World dictator that he has always dreamt of being.

Ladies and Gentlemen...I present to you the absurd and ignorant (mixed with clear racism) fanaticism of the anti-Obama extremist.

It's disgusting and shameful that this is the level of discourse.

I am so happy we will crush these right-wing racist lunatics in November. We will win and they will lose UGLY. Obama is the epitome of the American dream, he has run a totally honorable campaign (unlike McCain) and he inspires millions and millions of Americans to make our country a better place for all.

Naturally, this makes him a "Third World Dictator" to these idiots.

Shame Shame Shame on you and your anti-American rants.

Posted by: Shawn | October 20, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Stock Crash wrote: "Prepare for a huge Down hit on the stock market if Obama gets elected."

Yep, we've seen such great stock results under 8 years of a Republican presidency. Another 4 years and we should all buy stock in soup kitchens.

If anyone's noticed, the US economy is inextricably linked to the world economy. And the world would much rather work with Senator Obama than Senator McCain. That's clear.

Posted by: amaikovich | October 20, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

ps--Where's the poll data?

If this is to be covered as a news story, shouldn't the data be published?

Posted by: JaxMax | October 20, 2008 6:05 PM

Right here: don't you Republicans have the most rudimentary of Google skills?

Posted by: abqcleve | October 20, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Why do republicans hate America?

More Americans are NOT republican now, that's for certain. Republicans honestly, deeply vehemently hate anybody who isn't republican.

So how's that going for you republicans, you hate so many Americans now ... you just hate America.

Posted by: manichaean | October 20, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

The only thing that will "tighten" are the sphincters of the supporters of George McCain as the wave of defeat sends them to political oblivion...
L A N D S L I D E !

Posted by: Kase | October 20, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling we're being trolled here by one anti-Obama tax activist getting paid by the post. (Not "The Post.")

Posted by: tellthetruth | October 20, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

The stock market has always done far better under Democrats than under Republican administrations. Specifically "Democratic presidents generate average stock market returns in excess of the risk-free rate of 10.69% -- roughly six times the 1.69% earned under Republican administrations" That's from but if you google it, you'll find a regular plus for Americans in the stock market under democrats.

With the confidence Obama seems to engender, I would not expect it to be any different under an Obama administration.

Posted by: Stock Crash? | October 20, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Wandered over to CNN, where this little ditty just went up:

McCain viewed as more negative by nearly 6 in 10 voters:

Posted by: tellthetruth | October 20, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

@TomHere 5:53

I enjoyed your commment, it was quite funny, and ironic... do you know why Tom?

Because that's the same stance the Soviets took once they gained power... anyone who they disagreed with for whatever reason was sent to the penal colonies in Siberia, and basically stripped of their rights (not that they had any to begin with).

Sounds like a real paradise you lefties would make once you take control of the entire government... it's ok though, i welcome that "change", because once the cat's out of the bag any everyone realized what Obama and the left's true goals are, they'll be mighty glad that our founding fathers were nice enough to give us the Second Amendment... you pussy libs wouldn't last 5 minutes and your pathetic socialist-wannabe government would be overthrown without a sweat.

Here's a fun poll that NO media outlets are willing to report to the public...

75% of those serving in the military back McCain over Obama... that's not gonna look good once he takes the position of "Commander in Chief"

Posted by: C-Dawg | October 20, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

For an interesting satiric visual double take on the McCain - Palin phenomenon see the website/blog:

Posted by: jacknoir | October 20, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

the usual know nothing, racist and now anti-semitic drooling from low intellect supporters of their low intellect queen, Sarah.

Posted by: Silver Spring Mom | October 20, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Shawn, shame is just too gay. C'mon. It's pathetic. Call me some of the names that the "tolerant" "inclusive" "diverse" Left usually uses-hick, retard, "against my self interest", "evangelical theocrat" ad nauseam. Please, try harder to spew Leftist venom.

Yes, Obama is a Limousine Liberal. Franks, the guy whose boyfriend ran the male prostitution racket, is the Chair. He's announcing that they will "delay" the tax raises that were THE centerpiece of Obama's tax policy. Tie that to Charlie Rangel D-NY, who somehow had FOUR PRIMARY residences (and they want to make fun of McCain) and has tax problems on Ways and Means. Rangel LONG ago announced that he would reduce the tax load on wealthy NY. And, look at the fact that Buffett announces he supports Obama and is glad to be greedy in a time of crisis.

Yes, Obama is a closet Socialist. Yes, he keeps "slipping" up in letting out that he despises the working class ('bitter'), that he, ooops, wants to 'spread the wealth,' and stated many months ago that among his first acts would be to repeal "don't ask don't tell.' (Maybe you recall Clinton's first act-'don't ask).

So, please spare the hypocrisy about Obama being mainstream or center or concerned at all about the working class.

It was pathetic that "Professor Platitude" was stumbling on his words for five minutes with a plumber with a high school degree.

Obama is an embarrassment. THIS is the "intellectual?" This is the Harvard Lawyer.

It all becomes perfectly clear why Obama has NO legislation, NO published papers, has NEVER set foot in court, arranges sweetheart lucrative jobs for Michelle and Stuy High Guy (look it up), and courts the wealthy.

Only a damn fool would vote for a two faced, flip flopping liar like Obama. If you think for one second that Obama is going to raise the tax on the super rich, you are daft.

He is going to preside over the completion of the dismantlement of America begun under Clinton (see Rubin, Summers, Greenspan Et Al) and perfected by George Bush.

Only BUSH, despite being the moron that he is, fought unsuccessfully to STOP the Democratic Farm Bill which subsidized ethanol, enriching billionaire farm corporations, because to the pseudo-intellectual urbanist "greens" it seemed PC. (Research ethanol fuel value, lack of pollutant reduction, cost in food increase in the Third World, etc etc.)

And then he supports Rubin and Summers and others who brought us this financial disaster.

And at 4:30, Franks announces already that tax increases on these Limousine Liberals "will have to wait."

Wait like the Fannie Mae Regulation you shot down? Wait until Chelsea Clinton's and Joe Biden Jr.s Hedge Fund employers craft more loopholes???

You betcha.

Posted by: Tax Not the Rich Sayeth The Lord Obama | October 20, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow... unbelievable.

Obama has an advantage in being trusted, when he's done everything he can to conceal his past?

He has virtually no history in government, and is running solely on his "judgment"... judgment which includes Ayers, Wright, Rezco, ACORN, and who knows what else?

I can only hope that this media poll is as skewed as media coverage, and that Americans aren't really stupid enough to elect Sen. Obama.

Posted by: malclave | October 20, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

there he goes, C-Dawg, look at that - the republicans are threatening to shoot the rest of us now. Did I say they hate America?

Posted by: manichaean | October 20, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh a democrat house, senate and president! What will the republicans do with themselves??? Look for a big increase in KKK membership after November 4th!!!
Go burn a cross you wingnuts!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright, spewing hatred for whites, must be so proud of you. Can I have an Amen up in here? God Da** America. Farrakhan predicts a new era for the Nation of Islam.

You betcha.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I can only hope that this media poll is as skewed as media coverage, and that Americans aren't really stupid enough to elect Sen. Obama.
Posted by: malclave | October 20, 2008 6:47 PM
I'm sorry you think we're stupid, Malclave. And that does hurt. But no, we're not. We're hopeful...that's why we're voting for Obama.

Malclave, I canvassed for three hours yesterday--knocked on over 50 doors. I met a *lot* of Independent and Republican voters. And I swear to you, I was astonished--at only ONE household was I told, "Sorry, we're voting for McCain." (And even they were polite--which spoke well for other Republicans, and my wife and I thanked them.) We live, by the way, in an overwhelmingly Independent precinct.

At house after house, Independents told me they were excited to be voting for the first time in years! They vote every election, but this time it's a pleasure because they're casting a ballot for someone who has promise.

Obama isn't going to be perfect, and I don't agree with him on everything, but he represents hope--most notably for the possibility that we might stop fighting among ourselves and try to find a compromise solution to so much of what ails us. That's why I'm voting for him. And that's why a lot of Republicans (and Independents) are, too.


Posted by: tellthetruth | October 20, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Ritual suicide!
It's appropriate, it's honorable, and you can do it nearly for FREE(!). You will get the attention you crave and maybe even some of you will be mourned and missed...
well, maybe not- but you WILL be doing America a BIG service.
So dust off those guns that we know you right-wing nuts keep under your pillows, load that sucker up, and be at Jesus' feet by noon on November 5th!

And by the way...a GRATEFUL Nation will thank you!

Posted by: Kase | October 20, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Dems want class warfare and the Reps. will be glad to give it to them.... Too bad all of the politicians are out for themselves then the boring BS on the post would actually have meaning....

Posted by: robinhood | October 20, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Here we go again. DON'T RELY ON "rolling averages", as they are totally unreliable. And where is the Margin of Error of the polls? There is not change unless there has been a "GREATER THAN" MOE from period to period. If a candidate from day to day, or week to week (or any other periodic sampling) indicates a result greater than the MOE for that polling, either up OR down, there can be said to have been a change. Otherwise, NO!

And, to our esteemed reporters - please do not misrepresent polling results, especially those resulting from "rolling averages" !

Posted by: John of Arizona | October 20, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Hmm | October 20, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Whatever the tracking polls show on issues doesnt really tell the whole story.The electoral college, what actual votes make the presidency, is overwhelmingly in Obamas favor, almost a 100 point lead,a lead that McCain can olny break down by winning most of the swing states, which aint gonna happen.
He's behind 13 points in Penn, 11 in Michigan, 9 in Minnesotta,and the list goes on.The only real "swing States" hes ahead on are narrow at best, within the + or - correction, so McCain really doesnt have a solid lead in any swing state.Ohio has narrowed to 3.5, with a correction/error of +-4.
This might be a closer race in the popular vote, but t hat is second to the electoral,since Gore actually won the overall popular vote by half a million,and still didnt win the POTUS.
McCains campaign coffin has all but a few nails left to go, and with Barry having a 10 to 1 cash advantage, I really dont see how McCain can come back.All the hate and fear has'nt worked for him this far, and every time they try to change tactics, it backfires on them,usually big.
They should have let Palin out of the barn alot sooner, and given her a little more coaching before she was let out at all.Now if they let her out to the MSM, it will be seen as a last ditch attempt at stirring the pot.Not much hope when most of her MSM appearances have only led to Gaffe's in intelligence and Policy within the same campaign.

Posted by: Mullett | October 20, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Prejudice is rearing it's ugly head with packets in PA with a watermelon and Obama's face. KY Republican leaders with "That boy sould not have his finger on the button," or AL Republicans "Uppity Obama," not to mention VA's quaint Obama and Osama. I hope to see America turn the page where everywhere this is frowned upon. Powell could not have said it better, so what if a candidate is Muslim as long as they are American. He went on to explain about a picture of a Muslim mother over her soldier sons headstone with a star and crescent and how this hero won a posthumous bronze star. Playing on prejudice will lose the Latino vote as they see themselves as victims. The already existing 100 million ground game with 150 million in Sept. enables Obama to compete everywhere, while McCain must pick and choose with his limited coin. Obama is a great campaigner and is putting pressure on the states that were solid McCain two months ago like Florida and North Carolina. The current polls have Obama at 286 with PA, NH, VA and CO leaning his way. Obama does not make the same mistake twice and won't let up for a minute like NH. The ground game he has was increased after that loss to Hillary. He has shown himself to have a deep knowledge of issues, the war, and foreign policy whereas Palin does not. McCain's age and mental acuity are reason's why she must be ready. Al Qaeda in Iran, the Iraq/Pakistan border, and the Breyer vote and the time before it when John seemed lost for a moment tells me his best days are behind him. The Schuerman, Schmidt, Davis etc. part of his campaign are the neocons that Powell knows has led us in the wrong direction. The Alan Simpson type, not the Cheney type of Republican is where he would like to see the party return. This election will have a very Democratic congress near the 58-59 senators that make it cloture proof. What I like about the Dems although they are inept in congress is the senate did not consider the nuclear option to get their bills passed. The party is funding local races while the RNC is trying to help McCain catch up. With the Republican house call for no capital gains on securities, I believe they will lose the local races bigtime. Personally although Murtha has some drawbacks, I would like to see him lead the house as no one on the Democratic side is a better aisle crosser. In the senate I would like to see Reid replaced by a woman, McCaskill or Clinton, whom make him seem like a lightweight compared to their wisdom.

Posted by: Jimbo | October 20, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse


More Republican Leaders Abandoning McCain for Obama. And Remember all the Right Wing Columnists Who are Going to Vote for Obama.

If I posted anything more from the story, I would be rubbing it in... too much... again.

Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT | October 20, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

So, first poster, if Obama's election will make the stock market go Down (sic) why did it crash just after McCain rose ahead of him in the polls, hmmm? And whose party was POTUS then?

Posted by: jhbyer | October 20, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Again, Obama is up in the polls and this is good,but let's understand that none of us know how many Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians there are in this country.

Does that mean that Obama supporters shouldn't continue to hammer home our argument? Of course not. We must continue to make our case that Barack Obama is the most intelligent, most qualified and most capable candidate to come along since JFK.

We must continue to point out that the Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians have no argument and are using Race as their only benchmark as a disqualifier for Obama.

Barack Obama could indeed lose this election, but he will NOT lose the argument, he is the best candidate in the race and the only thing that can stop him is the Racism and White Supremacy(and Black man hating lesbianism) of this country.


Posted by: Realbrother | October 20, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

For those commenting on OBAMA having only "judgement" and not much - how about this:

OBAMA is the CEO of:

- the most efficient
- wealthiest ($$ from ordinary folks and not corporations)
- the most disciplined

US Presidential Election campaign in US History.


I'll take that any day!


Posted by: Arianna | October 20, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

"Stock Crash",

You can't read, homie. Your article simply states that the stock market is predicting an Obama win. It didn't say anything about there being a market crash. There's no way to predict what the market's going to do from one day to next. So how can you come out with some dire prediction predicated on your apparent fear of Obama.

Posted by: Who done it | October 20, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

[wongwillieus wrote:
Twelve Reasons You Must Reject Obama
1. Obama is unrepresentative, unqualified, and unworthy to be the president of the United States...]

Wong, you're wrong.

Yes, Barack Obama is Black, yes his Pastor and wife and many of his followers and supporters are Black, but this in and of itself should not disqualify him from enacting the "change" from the White Racism and Supremacy that has been the hallmark of this Nation for 450 years.

The suggestion that having a Black who is supported by other Blacks in the White House is something to fear, is not supported by commonsense.

Certainly, if the conditions under White Racism and Supremacy were such that Barack Obama wouldn't be needed that would be one thing. If White Supremacy and White Racism is the only casualty of an Obama Presidency then so be it.


Posted by: Realbrother | October 20, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse


Since 1968:
- 10 Elelctions
- 7 Republican Wins
- 1968: Earnings Ratio of JOE THE PLUMBER to a CEO: 1 to 40
- 2008: Earnings Ratio of JOE THE PLUMBER to a CEO: 1 to 400

70% of the time (7 out of 10 Elections) since 1968 - the Republicans have run this country and effectively destroyed its Middle Class.
From 1 to 40 we have gone to 1 to 400.

Please Joe, think before you vote.

(The above is from Jim Webb's post - State of the Union speach in 2007 - Google it/ Youtube it - it's great.)

Posted by: Arianna | October 20, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

We're Not Making This Up: 15 People Welcome McCain at Missouri Airport!

If I posted anything more from the story, I would be rubbing it in... too much... again.

Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT | October 20, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

This stupid WP poll always shows Obama with a greater lead in comparison with other polls. They must be polling the liberals posting here.

Posted by: Bob | October 20, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I am so happy and proud to support the next US President, Barack Obama.

How many Republicans can say that about John McCain? Zero. All they have is HATE HATE HATE.

Hope is more powerful than hate.

Posted by: sequoia | October 20, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Tax Not the Rich Sayeth The Lord Obama wrote:

"blah, blah, gay, blah, socialist, male prostitute, oink, fart, blah, puke, yawn"

I rest my case. Rascist *and* homophobic. Congratualtions!

Your rant is hilarious, but I am NOT tolerant and inclusive of rascist homophobic right wing idiots with no values and no soul.

I prefer to vote for the future of our country, not some anachronistic hysteria based on imaginary charges screamed by a desperate campaign with no connection to what the American people want and need.

But tell ya can refuse the tax cut you'll get under Obama to protest "socialism".


Didn't think so. Hypocrite. Have fun losing.

Posted by: Shawn | October 20, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, Barack Obama is Black, yes his Pastor and wife and many of his followers and supporters are Black, but this in and of itself should not disqualify him from enacting the "change" from the White Racism and Supremacy that has been the hallmark of this Nation for 450 years."

Wow. The Barack Panther Party rears its head.

The New Yorker cover was spot on.

It's gonna be great having a black Socialist as President.

Third World, here we come.

Posted by: Back to the 60s | October 20, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama supporters don't get complacent. I work on Wall Street, and if McCain is elected, prepare for a drop in the Dow of 1000 plus points. 4 more years of Bushes policies will tear the markets apart.

Posted by: Joseph | October 20, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: maphound | October 20, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Back to the 60s wrote:

"The New Yorker cover was spot on.

It's gonna be great having a black Socialist as President.

Third World, here we come."

Hey Dummy: The New Yorker cover was satire making fun of YOU LOSERS.

It's a big shocker that you didn't get it.

Ha Ha.

Posted by: Shawn | October 20, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Shawn, there will be no real tax cut for the middle class. Do the poor pay income tax? No. They will get (another) unearned check. The rich will have even more loopholes, hedge funds, private equity, and offshore accounts.

You are a fool to think you will not make up the deficit in other taxes, fees, etc.

But, you are "inclusive" and a homophile, so bend over and get ready.

The double standards will continue under affirmative action Obama.

Did you catch that Powell testified at the Stevens trial about his "sterling character" on Friday and endorsed Obama on Sunday.

Sort of like his great speech at the UN.

You betcha. Obama is "sterling" too.

Posted by: Obama the Fraud | October 20, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Shawn, the New Yorker was, sadly, accurate, sans the khaffiya. Perhaps you subscribe? Thought not. Satire cuts both ways, no? Or do you not get the SNL segments.

Posted by: Back to the Closet, Shawn | October 20, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

The crapper has been flushed, the water is swirling in the bowl and Johnny McNasty and Sarah Pinhead are going down. See ya. Bye.

Posted by: Bob22003 | October 20, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Let's parse Sen Obama's 95% just a bit. 35-40% of American
workers pay no income tax now...none. Thus almost half of the 95%
will be getting a check courtesy of the rest of us who do make enough
to pay tax. That REALLY makes me irate. There are more than enough
federal job, state, and local job training programs for people who
need a better job...and hey there was always paying attention in
school as a way up the economic ladder. Sen Obama is a
socialist...because that's what national health care, 'spread the
wealth around,' really means. Tax the rich till there aren't any
more rich. Thus democrats aspire to be Cuba without the corny
looking fatigues (for now anyway). Conservatives...and though the
GOP needs some radical fixing, they still have conservative beliefs
at their core...want as many people as possible to be rich and
believe if minimally bothered by intrusive government they'll figure
it out themselves because they have the requisite 'wanna' to get
there. Yeah some fall through the cracks but there are social
programs that cushion the fall so you can get up off the floor start
up the ladder again. Democrats want to turn the floor into a nice
low rent living room...YGBSM! That's what 'spread the wealth around'
means. That's what Joe the plumber knows. That's what main street
understands and because that was his message Sen McCain, in his less
eloquent that Sen Obama diction, won the night and Sen Obama's
conversation with Joe the plumber was a self inflicted wound because
America finally understands that Sen Obama is going to rustle the
fruits of their labors and give it to people who didn't earn it.
That's not being Robin Hood...that's horse stealing. Wake up
America! If you want to remain a free people with all the fruits of
liberty that you are guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence
and codified in the US Constitution, then you can't vote for Sen
Obama. He is a great guy. He's smart, he's a great family man, and
he speaks well...but he has wasted his fine mind in pursuing the
wrong path of socialism. It doesn't work. The Declaration says we
were all created equal. However equality is not an inalienable
right...liberty is. Equality and liberty are not the same thing.
Who arbitrates equality? What personal price to you pay to get it
and who defines it? It's a slippery slope...just like Joe the P
says. Forget the fact that he doesn't have a plumbers license. His
point is irrefutable. Wake up America!

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 20, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

now we can daily track like the big dogs.... appreciated.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | October 20, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I thought that Sen. Obama already won by a landslide fueled by the record donations from the ”poor” supporters and an onslaught of TV ads. There is no need to vote anymore, the money has won.

Posted by: Wiel | October 20, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

I thought that Sen. Obama already won by a landslide fueled by the record donations from the ”poor” supporters and an onslaught of TV ads. There is no need to vote anymore, the money has won.

Posted by: Wiel | October 20, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have run off everyone but their base. The KKK. You know, those nice Christians in their white robes and hoods. The racist hate mongers that can't tell the truth about anything. The mental midgets of North America.
I've been putting "Proud Klansman" bumper stickers on all the cars I see with McCain/Palin bumper stickers.
All these fascist anti-American neo-cons need to be sent to Gitmo for a few years of re-programing.

Posted by: DWayne | October 20, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Prepare for a huge rise in the stock market if Obama is elected. This is because he's got the vastly superior economic team.

Posted by: Tom | October 20, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Given that McCain is now soliciting the Russian Government for funds I think it is all over for him:
(Official UN site.)

Posted by: sprayman46 | October 20, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama the Fraud and Back to the Closet, Shawn (same person) desperately screached:

"blah, blah, oink, fart, puke, cry, [stamp feet] queef, blah, cry..."

You don't get it. Your ignorant, anachronostic and pointless hatred towards ethnic minorities, gays, muslims or whatever just exposes you as the idiot fanatic you are and renders any somewhat legit points you have as meaningless. And yes, I absolutely support gay Americans in their struggle for equality under the law in the "land of the free". You don't. History will look back at you with disgust and confusion.

McCain is a joke. He has run the most dishonest, wishy-washy, pandering, delusional, reactionary, desperate, extremist (just look at the pigs going to his hate rallies in the final days).

Obama can cut my taxes or not. Actually it's issue #1,502 for me.

Obama is better than you. As a rascist, that's issue #1 for you. It is clear.

I can't believe you don't get that the New Yorker cover is mocking you!

Ha Ha!

Posted by: Shawn | October 20, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

PanhandleWilly fanatically cried:

"Wake up America! If you want to remain a free people with all the fruits of
liberty that you are guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence
and codified in the US Constitution, then you can't vote for Sen
Obama. He is a great guy. He's smart, he's a great family man, and
he speaks well...but he has wasted his fine mind in pursuing the wrong path of socialism. It doesn't work."

Get a passport, Freedom Fry.

Are Europeans and Canadians not "free"?

The truth is, your idiotic and anachronistic hysteria over "socialism" is hilarious! In many ways, "socialist" European countries are more free than Americans. They also live longer, have better healthcare, better educations, less extreme poverty, more equality, lower rates of teen pregnancy, STD rates, higher human rights values and more stable economies.

And Obama is right-wing by European standards!

Good grief. We ARE awake. That is why WE are rejecting the Republicans' lies, crimes, warmongering, oppression, failures, human rights violations, abandonment of the poor and middle class, reckless foreign policy, destruction of the Earth, weakening of the military and the capitalism-with-no=conscience that led directly to where we are today.

Are things good in America? Nope. Thanks to the failed conservative policies that you are too stupid and/or brainwashed to let go.

Oh, no. We might end up like that nightmare called DENMARK! Or BRITAIN. Or CANADA. Or Sweden...

Oooooooooooh. Scary stuff! The right-wing fascist state we've embarked upon over the past 8 years is SOOOOO much better.


I will vote for Obama. Even my Republican dad and brother are voting for Obama.

You are on the wrong side of history.

You lose.

Posted by: Shawn | October 20, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Forget the polls. It will be a 3-5% election. As someone pointed out, Gore won the popular vote and still lost.

The problem the McCain campaign has is there is really no way for them to get to 270. Obama will win at least Virginia, Colorado, and New Mexico. Now if some Republican math whiz can tell me how he gets to 270 without those states, I love to see it.

Obama does not need to win Ohio or Florida (but he probably will).

270 is the magic number and Obama is already there even if we spot McCain Ohio and Florida.

Posted by: JSB | October 20, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain sold out his integrity for votes and Palin is a joke -- the shining star of SNL. I'm going to write in Joe the Plumber and Ed the Milkman for POTUS and VP this November.

Posted by: Charisma over intelligence | October 20, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

we were out in force today at the polling places - I saw our signature flower pinned to dozens of shirts.
I will go back on a rainy day with no line.
NoBama! go back to jr. senator school. we are sick of you already,
PUMAs will be heard.

Posted by: Florida PUMA | October 20, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

McCain's campaign has become an awful parody of itself. I have never seen a worse run and flailing campaign in my entire life. I am independent initially for Hillary, then McCain. Now I will absolutely support Obama 100%. McCain lost me with Palin.

Posted by: MoniqueC. | October 20, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

If Obama is going to win with such an ease, why are Obama's supporters so concern. Maybe they too know how manipulative our press has been in this election season. I for one don't put much credence into the poll numbers, considering the source.

Obama is short on experience, integrity, character, judgment.
I give my vote to McCain/Palin

Posted by: Alexandra | October 20, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Is it January yet? King George is going to get tossed off his throne and little Johnny McCain is going to be crying in the corner. Losers.

Posted by: Let's roll! | October 20, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Let's put it this way. Obama drew 175,000 people in St. Loius and KC Missouri the other day.

Then McCain came and literally dozens of big supporters came!

Posted by: Kevin in MD | October 20, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Panhandlewillie said: "It's a slippery slope...just like Joe the P
says. Forget the fact that he doesn't have a plumbers license. His point is irrefutable. Wake up America!"


Joe the plumber apparently doesn't have a degree in logic either. "A slippery slope" is about the most common fallacy one can make. That would make his point the opposite of "irrefutable."

Enough with the socialism hysteria. Raising the taxation rate on top-earners from 36 to 39 percent is not going to turn us into a third-world communist country. For a good portion of this country's history, the taxation rate was well above the 39 percent that Obama is proposing. And both democracy and capitalism were able to thrive.

Posted by: todd | October 20, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy this "liberal press" stuff. The mainstream media never really pushed the Bush administration hard enough on 9/11, Iraq, and the treasonous Valerie Plame scandal. If the press were really that liberal "they" would have pushed for Bush's impeachment. Fancy that.

Posted by: Fooled me once | October 20, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

2008 is not an US presidential Election this is power struggle between historic White House and Islamic World.
If Obama wins that would be super power sunset time and Obama will be strengthened the power of terrorists, communist and all anti American nations in this world. He can't lead to this nation with high profile, that would be heading to the worst

Posted by: Bella Liberty | October 20, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Joe the Plumber said on Hanity tonight, “Obama’s tax policies are breading mediocrity”.
He understands that if you tax people too much they will stop working hard. Or they might switch to cash economy. Either way tax revenues go down.
Joe the Plumber gets it, Obama does not.

In the Soviet Union people used to say, “YOU PRETEND YOU PAY, I PRETEND I WORK”, Joe understand, Obama doesn’t

Posted by: alexandra | October 20, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

fooledmeonce-I don't buy this "liberal press" stuff. The mainstream media never really pushed the Bush administration hard enough on 9/11, Iraq, and the treasonous Valerie Plame scandal. If the press were really that liberal "they" would have pushed for Bush's impeachment. Fancy that.
That's a laugh-

Posted by: Bob | October 20, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Did you guys know that not raping the middle class so the wealthiest 5% can have huge tax cuts is now called Socialism? Isn't that AMAZING? It's so time for a change. We need to evolve as a nation.

Posted by: dAVE | October 20, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

If Obama wins, does that mean he has to deliver substantively?

Or will it be racist to question him?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I think the polls distract from issues and in the end may mean nothing. Yesterday the news was that the polls were tightening up, today the news is Obama has a wider point spread. Bi-polar polls leads to more tension....and for what? It will all come together on election day/evening and this is what really counts.

Posted by: Leah1946 | October 20, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Republicans get middle class people to champion a lower tax rate for the wealthy is a stunning feat.

Obama is proposing a tax cut for everyone but the top five percent of wage earners. McCain is only proposing a tax cut for the super wealthy. And yet there are those in the middle class who think they'll be better off under the McCain plan.

Has it been trickling down so good for you that you don't want it to stop? I mean, hasn't that theory been completely debunked by now?

Posted by: todd | October 20, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama does not go far enough wwith share the wealth. I find it sad we can bailout financials for 700 billion, but can't restore America to greatness for about the same. A flat 5% redistribution of income tax should be levied on corporations and individuals. The money will be disbursed via a bank issued credit card with corresponding photo-id. Voting registration, additional security services (like airport pre-clearance with background check), census should all be available. A full share goes to Americans 18-65, a third share for seniors and dependents, a 2% share for wards of the state. The money can only be spent on American made goods, medical (incl cosmetic), education (incl parochial), public transportation, adoption, and funeral costs. To qualify and stay qualified for a full share you must make $20,000 or work 1000 hours or similar combined time doing community service. Housewifes/husbands, clergy, students, the handicapped, people caring for the elderly, sick, handicapped or raising children are all exempt. A free full physical, paid from this tax, available every three years, submitted once every ten years, would allow early diagnosis of disease and cheaper treatment. The fine for washing credit card dollars is a years denial for the seller and a $5000 fine for the buyer. The Reagan investment tax credit should be passed to quicken the rebuilding of our manufacturing base. A giant national manufacturing mutual should be created for cash poor filers to pledge their credit. Cash investments in ground up, ecologically safe, fuel efficient plants and industrial parks can bring the ITC to 15%. The hit on the treasury will be enormous and the ITC should end when we have rebuilt our manufacturing base. The rebuilding of the base will create 10 million jobs and the restored base 20 million. Even Republicans would agree this is a tax cut for investment in America (5% vs 10-15%). No tax credits allowed against redistribution tax.

Posted by: Jimbo | October 20, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Joe the plumber is nobody - part of the scenery. You’re missing the point here. It wasn’t his very direct question that has caused Obama all this flak.

It was Obama ripping his own facade to shreds when he answered.

Obama’s past relationships are also not a large issue. It’s his beliefs and ideas about shoving this country to the very hard left that are casting the doubts about his ability to be an effective and respected leader.

I think there is a tremendous number of voters who _say_ they will vote for him but just will not be able to pull the lever for him. Whether it’s a Bradley effect or not is not a real issue either. John Kerry had a similar point lead in 2004.

Perhaps America just isn’t ready for someone like Obama to be president. Colin Powell or Condi Rice? Sure. But not Obama.

Posted by: terrago | October 20, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Alexandra- We aren't the least bit concerned about winning. We just want to win by more. :-)

And for the Florida PUMA- get a grip. Hillary Clinton is spending the next two days in FL with Obama. Maybe you should go check her out. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think her and BO have a rally planned in Orlando where the expected crowd is going to be about 40,000. I'm sure they'll let you and your flower pin in.

Posted by: jsb | October 20, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

The press worked hard 24/7 to glorify Obama for the last 8 month, despite that fact that he lacks experience, judgement, character, integrity, etc. But the polls are tightening. I guess you just can not fool all the people all of the time, even if you are CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NEW YORK TIMES, etc, etc, etc

Posted by: Alexandra | October 20, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I pay taxes, a lot of them, and would get a tax break from Barack Obama. McCain is using a crumb bum who owes back taxes to try and take down Obama. My tax break is earned, its not a rebated and its more deserved than that for the rich buggers who destroyed wealth under Bush McCain. Screw Joe the Plumber who is a skinflint who pays a freaking lot less taxes than me and is bellyaching.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | October 20, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Stock Crash, put your money where your mouth is. Take all your money out of the market today, and put it back in when Obama leaves office in 2016.

That way you'll cash in on all the market success of the Republican Bush administration, and avoid all the market failure of the Democratic Obama administration.

Posted by: drossless | October 20, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Tax Hypocrisy Here We Come:

You Republicans know all about tax hypocrisy, don't you?

Just keep telling people you'll cut their taxes and increase spending forever. They'll never figure it out. If they do, just blame the Democrats.

Hypocrisy charges, from the party that wants to cut your taxes and buy every failed mortgage in America. Right.

Posted by: drossless | October 20, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Shawn I have a passport...but I'm not leaving. If you think Europe has it so should go. I've lived there for 6 years. Most of the German folks I had the pleasure of knowing loved the whole idea of America and weren't crazy about having to give up so much to enable the poor choices of others. They understood...clearly better than you do...that America is no puss game and that's the beauty of it.

You want a cradle to grave nanny state that's your business...go to where the art is perfected. The flip side of your nanny-state mediocrity is that most of Europe leads the US in suicide rates too...probably from the hoplessness that comes from being just part of the programmed mass. Me...I'll take the struggle.

And if Canada is your idea of a better health care really need to go take advantage of the long waits for appointments and needed surgery because of funding gaps and administrivia. If others have it so great...why do all the ones who can afford it throughout the world head for the US at the first sign of serious medical trouble?

American health woes are woes brought on by prosperity and the flaccid lifestyle that accompanies it...thus it's all personal choice. That's another byproduct of the success that liberty brings pal. I wouldn't have it any other way. I would way rather have those kind of problems than medical problems brought on by malnourishment and poverty like that bastion of socialism Cuba.

There is no right wing fascism...but there will be left wing facism...and soon if Sen Obama wins. Dissent will be stifled (fairness doctrine), reason will be shouted down (Barney Frank against those wishing regulatory oversight of Fannie Mae)in the name of equality.

You should be scared. The US military has had 'national health care' for decades...good guys working hard...but it isn't a very good system. There are horribly long waits fo rappointments and much service has to be contracted out to for profit doctors because the US military doesn't have the expertise or the numbers to handle the load. That's Canada's problem. It's Europe's problem too.

I want my kids to understand that THEY are responsible for the lives they build...nobody else. Sen Obama wants you to know he's got your answer...just give him the dough. I have better answers for me and I'd like to keep my own dough. You want to give yours to others...there are plenty of charities to give to and it's all's also the beauty iof America that nobody gives more to help others than Americans...partly because people know the money goes to the folks who need it. You give it to the government...about 50% goes to paying the salaries of the 'administrators.' No thanks pal. Vote McCain unless you're still on the cool-aid.

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 20, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

"New daily tracking poll gives Obama the edge on handling the economy"
"The new findings come from the first release of the Washington Post-ABC News daily tracking poll . . . "

Meanwhile the Washington Post's wanton refusal to recognize the steady growth of Obama's edge for many months now, seeking thereby, somehow, to imply that McCain's small gains TODAY on SOME issues are a reverse landslide victory for him - well, . . . .
I think "pathetic" is the word we are looking for here.

This is real desperation, WaPo.
Be a man, and face democracy at work in the U.S.A.
I know it hurts, but it will make you stronger in the end.

Posted by: wardropper | October 20, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

>>>Obama is proposing a tax cut for everyone but the top five percent of wage earners. McCain is only proposing a tax cut for the super wealthy. And yet there are those in the middle class who think they'll be better off under the McCain plan.

Todd...wake up. Middle class people don't mind paying their fair share. The top 20% of earners in this country already pay ~70% of the income taxes. The top 40% pay about 90% of the income taxes. The bottom 35-40% pay nothing. Nobody's whining about paying taxes they owe. What really irks us is that our taxes (should be for programs that benefit all of us: roads, defense, regulatory agencies like FDA, CDC, etc.)are going to be used for cash giveaways to people who don't pay any income tax at all. Where's the economic benefit to those of us who work hard enough to be well off?

Posted by: PanhandleWilly | October 20, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse


supporters are voting for



Obama is a


Notice that they did not females over forty and exurban former voters.

Many Female Forty Democrats like me are voting for McPalin.

In fact i already mailed in my ballot and it felt great. All my democratic friends are voting against Obama too.

Posted by: Grace | October 20, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

(They're Coming to Take Me Away Ha Ha)

Remember when you voted for Obama and I got on my knees and begged you not to because I'd go berserk?
Well, you left me anyhow and then election day got worse and worse and now you see I've gone completely out of my politically insipid mind.

And They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
to the GOP funny farm where life is beautiful all the time, and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
and they're coming to take me away ha ha

You thought I was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said that losing your votes would make me flip my lid, right? You know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed, you laughed and laughed and then you voted left, but now you know I'm utterly mad.

And they're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
To the GOP happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket Neocon jerks who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
They're coming to take me away ha ha...

I chose Palin, I'm just insane, I hired an unlicensed plumber even though I'm dumber and this is how you paid me back for all my kind unselfish loving deeds. Huh?
Well you just wait they'll find you yet, and when they do they'll lock you in the AEI you mangy mutt.

And They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
To the GOP funny farm where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds and Neocon jerks who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
They're coming to take me away Ha Ha Ha

Your home the one the bank foreclosed, You cried to me democratically is the way you must live or you'll feel hurt.
But, I see, I see Obama's new approach, your anxious economic angst has turned your vote from red to blue while I paid the campaign rent, thanks!

And They're coming to take me away Ha Ha
They're coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
To the Neocon loony bin with all you can eat perscription drugs like torizine, and geritol, and electric shock and awe and insulin
They're coming to take me away Ha Ha

Posted by: williambanzai7 | October 20, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Grace - I am a Hillary supporter. I have been paying close attention to what each of the candidates has said since the primary cycle ended. I had decided to use my vote to support Obama but now will gladly use it to cancel yours for McCain/Palin. Neither of them can ever hope to reach the standard Hillary set. They certainly don't represent her view on the issues important to moving America forward.

Posted by: Reader1 | October 20, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama, you have common sense Just keep informing the people what your common sense agenda is all about. Common sense Americans want to hear common sense answers to questions regarding this economy. I see that all McCain people want to hear are lies and crazy accusation leveled against you because they are at a desperation point. As we know it is a terrible thing to be in a desperated state of mind. Desperate people use desperate measures to fight their desperation. All McCain lies will just create votes in your account Obama.

Posted by: lclon | October 20, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully, the Bradley effect (racist white jerks not being able to vote for a black man) will be outweighted by the Palin effect (shivers going down the spine at the prospect of that ignorant, parochial, unethical, vulgar, and morally bankrupt, creature within reach of the presidency).

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

Why do Racists, White Supremacists and Black man hating lesbians (who really could care less about taxes and know damn good and well this is about their disdain for a Black man as President) want to act as if they are so concerned that Billionaires and multi-millionaires will have to pay more in Taxes?

Its lame to suggest that rich people pay the majority in taxes and homeless bums don't pay taxes at all(not true as everything they buy is taxed) when the percentage of income taxed means that poor people pay far MORE of a percentage of their income in taxes.

Rich people have perks and write offs and offshore bank accounts and loopholes that allow them to avoid paying taxes. Rich people get gifts and swag and perks that go along with being rich. Rich people use more resources have more cars, homes, and eat more expensive food etc. and as such since they use more should pay more.

Also too I reject the LIE that having a 6% tax burden go to 9% takes away the incentive to go from 50K per year to 100 million per year. To suggest that people will remain poor to avoid paying higher taxes is STUPID.

When Obama talks about spreading the wealth around to that White Supremacist Joe the Plumber he didn't mean take that Idiots two nickles he's rubbing together away he thought Joe was actually rich.

It was only later that he was found out to be White trash.


Posted by: Realbrother | October 20, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

To everyone who is not an american,the Republicans come across as a bunch of Gay bashing, anti-abortion, racist, divisive, intolerant, malicious, petty, win at all cost , people. If McCain and Palin do win this election, there is really something wrong with the social fabric of your nation.

Posted by: melvin | October 20, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Are the pollsters willing to divulge their weighting methodology? Over at The Fix, Cillizza takes a look at the youth vote. My question for the pollsters is how you weight the youngsters in your sample. Same as 2004 election? Same as their weight in the population? Something completely different? Hearing more about your approach to properly and accurately modeling the electorate would be helpful, if you can do so without compromising competitive advantage.

Posted by: bsimon | October 21, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Incredible the lack of responsibility taking on the part of republicans. They have been blaming bill clinton for all their problems while bankrupting the country and turns out in a crisis they are the closet socialist!! UNBELEIVABLE

Posted by: bob row | October 21, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Waaah! We richy-rich Republicans are for "free markets" -- no, we're for government to "stabilize" our multimillion dollar Wall Street jobs -- no, we're for government to pay us hundreds of billions of dollars to "stabilize" Iraq while the government "stabilizes" megabanks at home. Bwaah-hah-hah!

What? What do you mean we lost the election?

Posted by: Crying Republicans | October 21, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Three questions that really need to be added to the poll:

Are you a first time voter, or a registered voter who didn't vote in past elections? (Trying to determine if this election IS bringing out the disaffected)

If the answer to that question is yes, then:

How likely are you to vote this election?



a ten to fifteen percent bulge here, especially if it is running strongly Obama, means landslide, and if those voters don't feel like splitting their tickets, landslides down ballot as well.

Posted by: | October 21, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: jobwell | October 21, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

As everyone in the entire world, without exception knows, the correlation between negative posts
about Obama being a Muslim, anti American, non native American born, having relationships with terrorists........raises his likelyhood of becoming the next president.
Americans are repulsed by the neocons and republican facist nazi tactics.
For you three or four rightwingnuts still typing...TYPE FASTER !!!!

Posted by: Gary Gelormino | October 21, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

If you are at all military connected, or care about the military, watch Medal of Honor Winner, Bud Bucha.

Posted by: SueMVetforObama | October 21, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as presidentAl-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president

By PAMELA HESS Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 10/21/2008 09:44:36 PM MDT

WASHINGTON—Al-Qaida supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.
The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if al-Qaida wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said. "Then, al-Qaida will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush."
SITE Intelligence Group, based in Bethesda, Md., monitors the Web site and translated the message.
"If al-Qaida carries out a big operation against American interests," the message said, "this act will be support of McCain because it will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaida. Al-Qaida then will succeed in exhausting America till its last year in it."
Mark Salter, a senior McCain adviser, said he had heard about the Web site chatter but had no immediate comment.
The message is credited to a frequent and apparently respected contributor named Muhammad Haafid. However, Haafid is not believed to have a direct
affiliation with al-Qaida plans or knowledge of its operations, according to SITE.
SITE senior analyst Adam Raisman said this message caught SITE's attention because there has been little other chatter on the forums about the U.S. election.
SITE was struck by the message's detailed analysis—and apparent jubilation—about American financial woes.
"What we try to do is get the pulse of the jihadist community," Raisman said. "And it's about the financial crisis."
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden issued a videotape just four days before the 2004 U.S. presidential election directly addressing the American people.

Posted by: mycountry | October 22, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: mycountry | October 22, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

honestly, I don't trust any your eyes men.what's happening now? they,re killing innocent. what kind of people they ratio of good muslim is 1:20.I ruther choice mcCaine than Obama.

Posted by: joey | October 22, 2008 3:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry if i voilated your cannot blame me because i'm only expressing what i'm observing now in our world.try to live in the muslim world, so that you will understand my point is.once again, sorry and have a nice day.

Posted by: JOEY | October 22, 2008 3:33 AM | Report abuse

Marriage is the union of two individuals and this union can be best described in the quote
of Franz Joseph — “Two souls with but a single thought, Two heart that beat as one”.
Wedding is a dream for every single person. It is a wonderful and lovely idea to get married.
And hence, marriage should be well planned and organized.
If the wedding is organized in the church, then Church Wedding Decoration is the focal point of attention

Posted by: gowedding | October 22, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Interestingly enough everytime a democrate wins the market goes up. Check your facts.

Posted by: jane | October 22, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm so tired of the doom-n-gloom speeches coming from the Republicans -- "race-baiting", "anti-American", "Muslim".

The only way they can maintain power is by using fear as a weapon. Bush did it in pushing Iraq, pushing for the Bailout package... that's not the America I was born into.

GOP - Guys, you are trying very hard to turn me into a Democrat. In the very least, I'll be voting every member of your party off of my ballot this year.

Posted by: wolf | October 22, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tercact | October 22, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

And the RepubliCONs scream in unison...


Obama/Biden 2008! It's time to have the smart group in office.

Posted by: Michael | October 22, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

So a double digit lead means a landslide. Perhaps like the landslide John Kerry enjoyed after his double digit lead in the polls?

Posted by: yeah, right | October 23, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Obama will win the election because Mccain is not running a fair race. Watch Funny Videos

Posted by: roverfind | October 23, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I love to see such great support for Barack Obama. There is really no way Mccain can catch up now. Even though Obama hasn't actually won yet, I am very confident he will be the next president of the untied states. I also think he will prove to be one of the greatest presidents of all time. I will keep praying until election day.

Posted by: summer_star_65 | October 24, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I am so pleased to see such wonderful support for Obama. He will be our next president. At that point, the idiot, Palin can go back to Alaska to deal with her own demons.

Posted by: summer_star_65 | October 24, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

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