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Ethnicity divides on Arizona immigration law

New polls - from the Associated Press and Univision and from NBC News and the Wall Street Journal - suggest that Hispanics and non-Hispanics are sharply divided on Arizona's new immigration law and on how the issue should be handled more broadly.

The results from the Associated Press and Univision, released Thursday, find that two-thirds of Hispanics oppose Arizona's law, 15 percent support it and 17 percent hold a neutral view. In a separate survey of all adults which asked the same question, 45 percent of non-Hispanics back the law, 20 percent oppose it and three in 10 neither favor nor oppose it. The NBC-WSJ poll found a similar dynamic, with adults overall far more supportive of the measure than Hispanics.

The surveys suggest that most Hispanics and non-Hispanics alike think the law will have an impact on Hispanics who are citizens or in the country legally. In the AP-Univision poll, 79 percent say it is at least somewhat likely that police in Arizona will wind up stopping Hispanics who are legal residents as they enforce the law, and two-thirds in the NBC-Journal poll said the law was likely to lead to discrimination against Hispanics here legally.

According to the AP-Univision data, Hispanics, who report paying closer attention to the Arizona immigration law (42 percent say they have heard or read "a lot" about it, twice the level among non-Hispanics), were also far more apt to say the U.S. government was doing all that could be reasonably expected to combat illegal immigration (42 percent vs. 16 percent among non-Hispanics).

A Pew Research Center poll released earlier this week found broad support nationwide for the law, but did not break out views by ethnicity. And Gallup's latest release on national priorities showed the issue rising in prominence.

In the AP-Univision poll, 75 percent of Hispanics called immigration an issue important to them personally, compared with 60 percent of non-Hispanics, though the gap was narrower when respondents were asked how serious a problem illegal immigration is for the United States (65 percent of Hispanics consider it "extremely" or "very" serious, as did 69 percent of non-Hispanics).

The AP-Univision poll was conducted May 7-12 among a random sample of 901 Hispanic adults, and the general population poll interviewed 1,002 adults nationwide from May 7-11. The NBC-WSJ poll was conducted May 6-10 among a random national sample of 1,000 adults including 200 Hispanics.

By Jennifer Agiesta  |  May 14, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories:  Immigration  
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everyone knows that they just won't stop anyone to check their papers...
if another crime is committed, their papers will be checked and if illegal, they will be deported...
thanks to wapo and other left leaning distortion of the news newspapers, little know that...
do latinos have the right to change the face of America thru illegal immigration...

Posted by: DwightCollins | May 14, 2010 6:51 AM | Report abuse

the arizona law is going to have a huge impact across the board. it may be geared towards the current 'popular' illegal immigrant group but it will grow, change and become distorted. i have to admit part of me agrees with this law. if your not here legally then you've got to go. this goes for mexican, english, asian or african. on the other hand i can see a power hungry authority figure making assumptions based on race or accent or skin color.

i still believe the intent is valid but it will be a slippery slope

Posted by: nall92 | May 14, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

I would think if there is a little inconvience to latino american on occasion that as american citizens they would be ok with it due to the greater good of the counrty,i haven't ben pulled over for 3 yrs and can't remember how long before that "LONG TIME" the law clearly states you can't be pulled over unless you are speeding,tail light out,swerving all over the place,ect.

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Posted by: yusafas7f8 | May 14, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Why are these results surprising? A much larger percentage of he Hispanic population in Arizona is here illegally. It would stand to reason that such a law would have a disproportionate effect on their community.

The key thing to remember is that the law as written is ethnicity neutral. It is about illegals, not Hispanics.

Posted by: JoStalin | May 14, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

The key thing to remember is that the law as written is ethnicity neutral. It is about illegals, not Hispanics.

Posted by: JoStalin | May 14, 2010 7:49 AM
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Posted by: Nymous | May 14, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

As an un-hyphenated American I dont see a problem with the current batch of "illegal" aliens. They are not here to inflict genecide on the current batch of "legal" aliens. And like all the other previous batches of illegals they are here looking for a better life and are eager to find work which makes this this place better.

And if you consider that these illegal immigrants can trace thier anecestors back to a combination of native Americans (North, south and Central) and to the orginal "owners" of Arizona (Mexico), it would seem the illegals are the European-Americans even though they are documented.


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Posted by: Nymous | May 14, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

"Ethnicity divides" -Oh! Just like RICO did with the Mafia and La Cosa Nostra. Well that's a good thing, because now we know we're targeting the right group!

Posted by: connerabr | May 14, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I think the law to an extent is to drastic,because I will sure affect the legal latinos what I really think should is for the government to take action and Obama to take responsabilities and stick to his promise of a immigration reform that he bragg so much about. 90% of the latinos that could vote, voted for him and he has done nothing about it. Besides latinos aren't here to bother anyone they come for a better future and !!TO DO THE NASTY AND HARD WORK THAT AMERICANS DONT WANT TO DO!! Like cleaning toilets. You must understand some may like or not latinos play a huge role in this country not only them but all immigrants they contribute tremendously to the economy...Besides why dont the ones that so called themselves americans go back on history Most of their ancestors where immigrants who left their trace here,but its very easy to see only the negative when there is so much good to see..

Posted by: turcios82 | May 14, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

The best guess is that somewhere between 55 and 60% of the illegal immigrants in this country are from Mexico. The best guess is that somewhere between 20 and 25% of the illegal immigrants in this country are from somewhere in the Americas. As a consequence, one can say that somewhere around 80% of the illegals in this country are Hispanic - I know Canada is in the Americas and the best guess is that there are somewhere around 50,000 here illegally. In these circumstances, any enforcement of immigration law will largely target Hispanic America. This may well explain why Pew Hispanic survey of Hispanic attitudes toward enforcement of immigration law reveals that they were opposed to all forms of immigration enforcement. The simple truth is that there is a growing divide between Hispanic and non-Hispanic America on immigration.

Posted by: jeffreed | May 14, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Then they went to: 'I'm American! I'm American! F*** all these illegal aliens!' Then I started listening, because I know that niggas and Jews is next."

Posted by: Crucialitis | May 14, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to suggest a different title this article: "Emotions dominate perception of law, facts don't matter"...but on second thought, if that is what the article were titled, it could be confused with 75% of the ComPost articles...

First off, here is a suggestion for those who have overlooked the checks and ballances in the Arizona law...The easiest way to avoid charges of 'profiling' is to take the approach Prince William County used: Ask EVERYONE stopped for identification. By using the "100%" method, you are treating everyone equally.

As to editorial ramblings by Ms Agiesta - in attempting to pontificate as to the problems with the new law, she makes a rather obvious "so what?" statement: "In the AP-Univision poll, 79 percent say it is at least somewhat likely that police in Arizona will wind up stopping Hispanics who are legal residents as they enforce the law"

Um, what is your point? Remember, from day-one, this law is not about stopping just Hispanics. This law is a tool which, after certain conditions are met, allows officers to check the immigration status of ANYONE they stop, regardless of ethnicity. So it is also 'somewhat likely' that whites, blacks, natives, asians - all legal residents - will get checked.

By quoting a singular race/ethnicity statistic, you are turning an otherwise neutral law into a racial issue. So what is your point? Oh, that's right - your only point is one based solely on emotions and void of facts or reality.

Using your logic, you are criticising the police for stopping a legal resident (regardless of race) for violating a law - only to taken the emotional leap and twist this into discrimination. The law is not discriminitory. The manner in which it can be used is not discriminatory. If you recall, the status check can only be implemented after someone has been stopped for some other reason and other conditions have been met.

Ms Agiesta, you're so busy grinding your axe that you've failed to realize how many checks and ballances that are in the law which you've ignored.

Posted by: Disbelief | May 14, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Great Law!!!

Now, we just need to go back and repeal Ted Kennedy's 1965 Immigration Act which banned the Irish, French, Germans, Italians, English, etc. from immigrating to the U.S. except in small numbers.

They were replaced by Mexicans, Asians, Africans and basically anyone non-white. Our culture has went down the tubes since 1965 and there is a direct correlation with the 1965 Immigration Act.

Write to your Congressman and Senator supporting a Repeal of the 1965 Immigration Act and a return to National Origins Immigration Policies. They aren't Racist they are just Right.

Posted by: richmond_dude | May 14, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I hate a Nazi SOB and I hate AZ

Posted by: question-guy | May 14, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Multi-national Corporate entities and their Republican flunkies have ravaged and expatriated most of our Nation’s wealth and resources. Waste, fraud, abuse of power, scandal, corruption, incompetence on a scale not seen since Nero’s Rome. EVERY PROBLEM the USA is now facing can be traced back to the Republican Party and rich guy Conservative ideology… Instead of taking responsibility for their screw ups what do these right-wing degenerates do? BLAME POOR PEOPLE and FOREIGNERS!


I’m convinced Republicans/Conservatives are going to be remembered as the most shameless, ignorant, craven , hypocrites in US history. They’ve GIVEN UP on common sense/rational stance and GIVEN IN to propaganda, hysteria among other LOW GRADE THOUGHT PROCESSES!

I swear to the Almighty, I DO believe these right-wing degenerates would rather do what right for Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin and FOX News than what’s good for the country. It was a blessing from GOD the American PEOPLE survived the 8 year Bush/Cheney DISASTER and the Republican controlled Congress of 1994-2006. The polls just can’t be right. Americans can’t possibly be that stupid as to VOTE Republicans back into power and think the Arizona Police State Law is the right way to go.

If this is true then the USA is doomed. I don’t think we can make a come back if Republicans are in charge of Congress. American VOTERS on BOTH side need to wake the #*~/ up…
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Posted by: SPO1 | May 14, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

"Using your logic, you are criticising the police for stopping a legal resident (regardless of race) for violating a law - only to taken the emotional leap and twist this into discrimination. The law is not discriminitory. The manner in which it can be used is not discriminatory. If you recall, the status check can only be implemented after someone has been stopped for some other reason and other conditions have been met."

Hahahahahah yeah sure... they're not going to 'find' a reason they'd otherwise let go if your skin is a little browner than usual. Sure...

Posted by: Crucialitis | May 14, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Then they went to: 'I'm American! I'm American! F*** all these illegal aliens!' Then I started listening, because I know that niggas and Jews is next."

Posted by: Crucialitis | May 14, 2010 8:55 AM
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That exactly how the Nazis got started in the late 1930's. Drunken morons got to together and started babbling in bars - and the next thing you know they started the Nazi Party. Today they are called Tea-baggers.

NIP IT IN THE BUD!!!!

Posted by: question-guy | May 14, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

SP01: You are talking about Neoconservatives (Bush, Reagan, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.) which are far different from Paleoconservatives (Pat Buchanan, etc.). Pat Buchanan and Paleos oppose NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Iraq War. BTW, much of the economic mess was caused by Progressives like Clinton (ending Glass-Steagall Act), Carter (Community Reinvestment Act), along with the morons Reagan and Bush who deregulated our economy too much. Generally speaking, Obama has been the most Pro-American President since Eisenhower. But, that's simply because the interests of African Americans are generally aligned with the interests of Working Class Whites. Obama knows helping Hispanics hurts poor blacks.

Posted by: richmond_dude | May 14, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

All racism is so sad, and should be no part of the solution to the U.S.-Mexico problem. It's sad to see the artificial political line on the map called the border keep hurting the little guy. Those of both major parties who focus on the little mice while ignoring the elephant in the barn need to wake up. It's not about Democrat vs. Republican, it's about the incurably corrupt Mexican govt. that rides the rich on the backs of the poor and robs them of opportunities, crushing them until they cross the border looking for the Great American Dream, after which they get revictimized like in the present example. The answer is for the U.S. to work with the Mexican people to dissolve the Mexican govt. in return for full U.S. citizenship and the formation of several new U.S. states, a New California, New Texas, New Florida, etc., creating vibrant new economic zones for all 414 million Americans sans passports or racism. Learn about the bipartisan Megamerge Dissolution Solution at http://go.to/megamerge

Posted by: tlwinslow | May 14, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

10 years from now, we will have control of our borders & country again. We will have rid ourselves of all these illegal aliens, and shut the flow of legal immigrants down to a tiny trickle. Things will be good, and we'll look back on the insanity of 2010 and think it was a bad dream.

Posted by: pmendez | May 14, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Everyone who wants amnesty asks us to walk in the shoes of an illegal immigrant. Well, I think perhaps they have it wrong. Illegal immigrants haven't had a stroll in the shoes of an American citizen. Or they would be just as mad about this as I am.

In fact even after coming here illegally and setting up a household, they rarely even try to learn the English language. For decades there has been no assimilation to our communities and instead illegal immigrants have imported Mexican culture and values into our communities.

Walk in the shoes of an American citizen that believed the 1986 amnesty act would end illegal immigration.

Walk in the shoes of an American citizen who has kids in their local school that has changed to 85% Hispanic and all lunches are Mexican foods. The classrooms bulge with 40+ in each class so the teachers can't correct essays and have stopped teaching creative writing and book reports.

Walk in the shoes of an American who can't pay their medical bills and loses their home from collection agencies hounding them into bankruptcy. Meanwhile all illegal immigrants don't even get a bill when they go to a hospital.

Walk in the shoes of an American when they are out of work and the only jobs available require you speak Spanish.

Then maybe you'll understand that American citizens feel their rights are not being respected by 12-20 million illegal immigrants who don't care about the country they are in, the community or the citizens who belong here.

THIS American citizen is finished thinking about the rights of people who just want what they want and care little about the laws of the country they are living in. I just want them to go home.

Posted by: madmommy4u | May 14, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

quesion-guy: seriously, you are a maroon (to quote B.Bunny). Likewise for you other 'net babblers who have nothing useful to say.

This has nothing to do with the Tea Party, nor the Nazis. It has to do with the LAW! While you may be one of those people who aren't bothered by ignoring parts of the law that are inconvenient to you, the reality is that the laws of this nation are created by representatives of your fellow citizens for the protection of all citizens.

If you are not bothered by the fact that there are 12 million aliens in this country illegally, then you don't deserve the liberties that come with citizenship.

I find it represhensible that our federal government has TOTALLY ignored the protection of our borders, just because it wants a cozier relationship with whatever corrupted loser is running Mexico at the time. Caldarone is offended by the enforcement of our laws? Too darn bad! Let him start educating his own people!

This isn't a Democrat or Republican issue. It's an American issue. 12 million foreign invaders are in our land, and no one wants to do a darn thing about it. How many is too many? Is a billion too many? We have laws to state how many is too many, and they're being ignored. We don't need more Hispanics living in this country. It's already absurd that our public schools have to teach them English.

The simple solution to this is to prosecute the American citizens doing the hiring of aliens in the first place. If you put *these* criminals in jail, you'll quickly see an end to illegal immigration.


Posted by: doom_of_cthulhu | May 14, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Noticia para todos de los indocumentados dentro de los Estados Unidos:

Organize and pick a date. All of you who are illegal aliens within the US (crossing the border too) unite and stand up for yourselves. Stage a mass sick out and turn yourselves in to immigration. Have all supporters do the sick out deal too.

Hire immigration attorneys and ask for immigration hearings. For example, apply for political asylum as economic refugees who are terrified to go back to the cartel violence in Mexico.

#1: It will take months for agents to process all cases. There is not enough detention space or immigration courts to handle so many cases at once.

#2: You would have to be released within the US with a notice to appear. These NTA’s are valid immigration documents until your cases are adjudicated.

#3: It would take years to hear all of these cases. Meanwhile, although you won't be authorized to work, you would reside lawfully in the US until your cases were heard.

Americans who could care less about the law will continue to hire you just like they always have.

Don't cooperate with the Mexican or US Government's tacit agreement to dehumanize you and “keep you in the shadows”.

Unite peacefully and force their hand!

Posted by: andelejohn | May 14, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I find it represhensible that our federal government has TOTALLY ignored the protection of our borders

...which still does not justify the unconstitutional state usurpation of federal jurisdiction over immigration law and enforcement that Arizona SB 1070 represents.

Last time a state (or group of states) tried to invoke state's rights over an issue (*koff*slavery*koff*), it ultimately did not turn out well for the states who tried to override the federal government.

Hey, Arizona, you sure you wanna go down that slippery slope? Or will this ultimately be a case of Santayana and those not learning from the past being condemned to repeat it?

Posted by: SportzNut21 | May 14, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

That exactly how the Americans got started in the 1770s. Drunken morons got together and started babbling in bars - and the next thing you know they started the American Revolution. As loony as the teabags are, they have the right of free speech.

The GOP in Arizona made a giant mistake. Latinos will overwhelmingly vote for Democrats for a long long time.

Posted by: alance | May 14, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Latinos-> from Latina region in Italy, near Rome(Spanish, Italians, Portuguese, Frenchs), or wrongly used for calling south Americans mixed descendants from Spanish conquerors. Latinos should rule America? well, let's see what Anglo's have done in the last 10 years... Wars, Global Economic Meltdown, and so more calamities, yeah, we should rule this country, and expose the new KKK generation, first nigros, after Chinese Slaves forthe train, Italian Latinos after the WWII and now, every "Latino" scapegoat they could arrange. By the way, 15% of the crimes in Arizona have "Latinos" involved. What about the 85% left? OOOOhhh, KKK, I'm Italian by citizenship, my whole family are direct Italian descendants and YES WE CAN!

Posted by: pieroni73 | May 14, 2010 11:47 PM | Report abuse

By the way, is this similar to Avatar??? let me see... European Conquerors coming to the new world to plunge rape and kill, and their sons and the sons of their sons seems to believe that this land is just for themselves and every "Alien" should be keeped outside the borders. Well, my KKK friends, this is justice

Posted by: pieroni73 | May 14, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Illegal is illegal...don't throw any of that "I am indigenous" b.s. out there either - it doesn't fly.

We're broke and we don't want to pay for your existence...and your spawn's existence...and your 56 sponsored relatives.

We don't f'n want to let you in - you freaks. Take your minimal-to-no-skilled azzes back to Mexico or wherever.

Have you ever heard the word "NO"? Well - HELL NO....you can't stay and you can't have a damned thing. NOW GET OUT.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | May 15, 2010 3:41 AM | Report abuse

I certainly hope that the "resounding majority" of legal Hispanics do not condone and support illegal immigrants.

That in itself would be the ultimate form of racism.

Imagine a " resounding majority" of whites supporting drunk driver offenders if they happen to be white. Imagine a " resounding majority" of blacks supporting identity thieves if they happen to be black.

Posted by: fury60 | May 15, 2010 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Read the 5/15 NYT article on Haitians sneaking into Vermont and being immediately arrested and deported for that FELONY ENTRY. Why do the non-Mexico border states scream that illegals entering through these border states have some right to be here, that we're racially profiling them and hurting their feelings, when a mere 40 Haitians show up in Vermont and are immediately arrested. Hypocrisy! Couple this with another NYT article last week that 5 Vermont towns have passed English only laws and you begin to see where the chips lie in the minority of states that think AZ is wrong. Once again, liberal hypocrisy at its finest.

Posted by: samwoods77 | May 15, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

pieroni73, perhaps you slept through history class?
The Spanish (Hispanics) came to this continent from Europe, and stole the land of the Native American Indians here in the southwest, none of which were ever "Mexicans".
Mexico did not exist before 1822, there were no "Mexicans" before that.

The Spanish called this land New Spain, Spain is a nation in Europe.
When it was "New Spain", Mexico did not own the Provinces of California, Santa Fe and Texas, Spain did.
The southwest land was Indian land, Spain never settled it, never developed it, never populated it.
When Mexico took over in 1822, the land this side of where the border is today was not "Mexico", it was the "California Territory", the "Santa Fe Territory", and the "Texas Territory", none of which were ever Mexican states, none of which was ever developed by, populated by, or controlled by Mexico. Still Indian lands.

Mexico in 1822 - shows "Mexico" to the south, and the Indian territories to the north (now the US Southwest).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mexico_in_1822.jpg
This is how Mexico looked when it became a nation in 1822.

26 years later, in 1848, Mexico sold the Indian territories to the USA.
Nothing much had changed. The territories were still not Mexican states in 1848.
Map of Mexican States in 1847, one year before the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Mexico_1847.jpg

Get a clue, MEChA lies to you, chicano studies and la raza studies have nothing to do with "history".

Mexican Indians are not "indigenous" to any US land.

Posted by: arapaho88 | May 15, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

America are you ready to pay $10.00 for one tomatoe? is you do then we should send back every ilegal immigrant that is in the country. If you do not want to pay $10.00 for a tomatoe then not all ilegals cant go and some we have to allow to work here in some kind of way that do not violate the immigrations laws. So thinking well about this it looks like we are going to still need a few ilegals in this country so we do not have to pay high prices for food.

Posted by: dangelo_prtc | May 15, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

All you have to do to stop illegal immigration is crack down on employers. No jobs, no illegals -it's that simple.

We know the employers names and addresses, there are far less employers than illegals so enforcement on the "demand" side is more "doable" than chasing all the illegals and would take less manpower and resources.

Big hint folks. No politicians on the left or right want to actually solve this problem. Construction, Tourism and Agriculture, who donate to all politicans, are actually against this since it will drive up their labor costs.

What you are getting is politicicians, be it Palin or Obama, that want to appear to be doing something about immigration while not really doing anything effective.

The politicials know that concentrating on chasing illegals will be just as futile as as the so called "War on Drugs" has been.

Remember, it is not just the illegal immigrants that are breaking the law, the employers that employ illegals are equally or ever more criminal. Law's already exist to investigate and prosecute employers.

So yourself why, except for infrequent "show" raids, these employer enforcements are not being done, and when these "show" raid do take ploace -why the employers face no or weak prosecutions.

Posted by: plaza04433 | May 16, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Build the--REAL--Fence(s) Not the half built construction they have deceived the American public with? The--REAL--fence is TWO FENCES. The first one separating American sovereignty from Mexico, than a 1000 yard gap. After which another equally high chain-link fence with its top covered with razor wire. The 2000 mile border fence designed by Rep.Duncan Hunter is now an albatross to the Obama government that cut-off funding to further its construction. This suggests to me their was no endeavor to actually complete the--REAL BORDER FENCES? The ideology behind this was the no-mans land for the US Border Patrol to have instant contact with unauthorized entry between both barrier fences on a two lane track. This is a sad response of our own government to stop drug smugglers and the movement of foreign nationals spilling across the border. This underfunding and intentional refusal to construct the fencing to foreign nationals, has caused the chronic mess in the Border state of Arizona. Unable to suffer the indignities of unparalleled rising crime rate cause by the influx of illegal aliens, Arizona has been forced into this position to benefit its legal residents with a harsh new law. Decide for yourself, whether to combat illegal immigration in the coming months. Learn who should and should not be reelected in future elections at NumbersUSA. Everybody should remember that Sen.Harry Reid (D-NV) has been a chief instigator of shoving Immigration overhaul down our throats and--MUST--be removed from office, so he cannot do any more damage with his pro-amnesty friends. Further--realize the Arizona immigration policing law, is no different from Federal laws and neither the ACLU, or any other anti-American open border entity will not stop the inception of Arizona statutes. The issue is now boiling over and stupid California (The Sanctuary State) boycotts are having a backlash and although much of the Liberal oriented press have done the bidding of ethnocentrism caucuses, public opinion is proving Arizona policies are correct. Other states are carefully perusing Arizona law and will be drafting similar laws when assemblies are in session.

Posted by: infinity555 | May 17, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Do we expect any other results than these from polls? Part of this law is so patently unconstitutional that I am frankly amazed that we even need to have a debate about it. The part about it being illegal to be an illegal - that is part of federal code. The part about legals having their papers with them - this is also part of federal code. No qualms from me here.

But the two parts that are an abomination are:

1.) redefining search and seizure by allowing cops to stop anyone they wish, based merely on a "hunch". It doesn't get much more unconstitutional than this.

2.) the part that allows citizens to sue police departments if they think that their local police are not prosecuting this thing vigorously enough. Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to 1935 Nuremberg, Germany. What an absolute abomination!

To pass a rider law after this horrible law specifically prohibiting racial profiling is just a bunch of hooey. Anyone with a brain in his head knows that the illegal problem is with latin americans coming through Mexico, the majority of them mexicans themselves. AZ police are not going to be looking for blond haired, blue eyed canadians who may have just sneaked into the state! Cops are going to look for brown skinned people who speak spanish and who look dusty, as if they just crawled under a fence. That will be the only way to enforce this crappy law, and that at a time when illegal influx and crime are both down in AZ and the profits made from mexican tourism were up- at least until this terrible law came out.

Where are the TEA PARTY people in this? I thought they were against government intrusion into our lives. If this is not intrusion, then no one knows what intrusion is!

Posted by: bonncaruso | May 18, 2010 3:36 AM | Report abuse

Who lived where in the past has nothing to do with now, get over it. It makes no difference who it is, if someone comes into the US illegally then they have broken the law. They have no rights to stay here. It is causing this country to go bankrupt and many cannot get jobs because the requirements are for bi-lingual now. There is something very wrong with that. I am an older person and it wasn't like this when I was young. We have so many gangs now that never existed until the influx of illegals and they are bringing in tuberculosis and other diseases. I was told this by my health department and why I stopped going to the main one because of active cases. Something has to be done. It is obvious a crack down was needed and Arizona is doing it because whether they want a better life or not, the first thing is to have people who will obey the law, learn to read and write English and not put a burden on our welfare programs. It doesn't matter the ethnicity, it is a matter of respecting the laws here. This isn't a racial thing because they are not another race. There are others here with expired green cards from other countries I am well aware of. We have to fix things for those now who have a right to be here either by birth or naturalization. We are going under and losing programs because so many get paid under the table. If you want to be here then work lawfully and apply for a green card. I think it is shameful what Los Angeles is doing. They have no right to do a boycott. It makes them no better than others breaking our laws. The states have individual sovereignty and they need to respect that.

Posted by: VeronicaDaze | May 19, 2010 6:10 AM | Report abuse

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