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Glenn Beck approves of Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert rallies

Glenn Beck
(Mark Welsh/Arlington Heights Daily Herald via AP)

The man Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert love to mock has come out in support of their Oct. 30 marches on the Mall.

Glenn Beck released a statement that, in his signature style, obliquely praised himself and then wished the comedians well.

"8/28 was a historic event for a lot of Americans," Beck said. "I hope that Ed Schultz, the AFL-CIO, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and whoever else wants to plan a march in DC have the same great success that we had with Restoring Honor."

Schultz, the AFL-CIO, Stewart and Colbert have all responded to Beck's rally in a public way.

In early September, Schultz dismissed Beck's rally, saying that he could easily get 300,000 people to the Mall with six months of promotion and a similar budget. Beck responded to Schultz by saying he should first try to draw 300,000 viewers in the 25-54 demographic before he plans any march. Schultz does not seem to have any plans for a march, but he was vociferous in his attack on Beck's rally.

The AFL-CIO does plan an Oct. 2 rally on the Mall in response to the "Restoring Honor" march. "The AFL-CIO is determined that the Tea Party and its corporate backers are not going to get the final word," AFL-CIO Executive Vice President Arlene Holt Baker told the Daily Caller. "We will expect tens of thousands of union families to come."

Comedy Central's satirists plan to host rival rallies with Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity" and Colbert's "March to Keep Fear Alive."

Stewart has often criticized Beck on "The Daily Show," and the planned marches on Oct. 30 are seen as a response to Beck's Aug. 28 "Restoring Honor" march.

According to CBS News, Beck's event attracted about 87,000 people, though Beck claimed that the number was incorrect and that at least 500,000 people attended.

Rallies organized by Stewart and Colbert have more than 150,000 RSVPs on Facebook, though some people may have chosen to attend both.

Updated, 12:45 p.m. A number of readers have mentioned in the comments that we should be giving a more accurate count of attendance at the "Restoring Honor" rally.

Alsatian1 began the thread by saying, "There were either 85,000 people at Beck's rally or 500,000. Do some fact checking, do some investigating and tell your readers which it was."

However, as The Post's Annys Shin wrote after the Beck rally, "counting crowds has become a political no-fly zone." Shin explains that a consultant with an expertise in aerial photography was hired by CBS to determine the size of the crowd, but other media outlets contested that number. The task used to fall on the U.S. Park Police, but it has done only one crowd estimate in the past four years -- at Barack Obama's presidential inauguration.

Reader rjma1 has a suggestion for future rallies: "What I'm hoping they will make available at the Comedy Central rally is hats on a stick that people can place around the venue to make the aerial shots look more impressive. I know Colbert would approve."

By Melissa Bell  | September 21, 2010; 12:45 PM ET
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Look, you're a newspaper. There were either 85,000 people at Beck's rally or 500,000. Do some fact checking, do some investigating and tell your readers which it was. There are not two sides to this fact. Start being useful.

Posted by: Alsatian1 | September 21, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Oh, I am SOOOOO relieved that Glen Beck APPROVES of us. That is EXACTLY what we were hoping to accomplish at these Stewart/Colbert rallies.

Posted by: cpantelias | September 21, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

People tend to buy useful things.

Posted by: Alsatian1 | September 21, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The right-wing has a wholly-owned Corporate PR and propaganda arm that will repeat the 500,000 claim over and over and over. They paid millions to bus people in and every objective measure said less than 100,000, more like 80,000.

Since both Comedy Central rallies are, in fact, anti-right-wing rallies, let's add 'em both up and see. Of course, Colbert will claim that 5 million will have attended his rally and show phony pictures, just like Fox News does.

It's hysterical.

Posted by: thebobbob | September 21, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

The astute reader already knows which of the crowd estimates for the Beck rally was the more accurate. As indicated in the CBS report, the company they selected to provide the crowd estimate is a professional firm experienced in crowd estimation, especially selected by CBS for the purpose of keeping bias out of the estimation.

On the other hand, the higher estimates of those who were promoting the rally could be expected in light of their promotional goals, and their propensity toward lying.

Does WaPo bear more responsibility than to provide the facts that CBS made one estimate, and that the promoter made another? Does the reader bear no responsibility beyond expecting the media to do all the work?

Posted by: CuckooRaja | September 21, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Oh, good. Now I can sleep easily because Beck approves.

Posted by: jckdoors | September 21, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Who cares what Beck thinks....this is not a person who has the credibility to opine on this or anything else. Once again you have raised his profile by even asking the question....thanks so much!!!!

Posted by: dalyl | September 21, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

None of this matters.

All that matters is that the Democrats will be gone in November, ousted en masse by we Independent voters.

America is fed up with the radical anti American ad hominem liberal agenda.

Stewart and Colbert will then announce their Marxist Pied Piper summit in Bejing where, hopefully, the weasley liberals addicted to welfare in the USA and Obama's growing Governement t i t, will follow.

Posted by: Patriot12 | September 21, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

None of this matters.

All that matters is that the Democrats will be gone in November, ousted en masse by we Independent voters.

America is fed up with the radical anti American ad hominem liberal agenda.

Stewart and Colbert will then announce their Marxist Pied Piper summit in Bejing where, hopefully, the weasley liberals addicted to welfare in the USA and Obama's growing Government t i t, will follow.

Posted by: Patriot12 | September 21, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I'm already saying that 531, 892 people came to the October 30 rally, even though it hasn't happened yet. By the time it does happen, this will be a well-established guesstimate, even fact.
Make me right, Americans!

Posted by: dudh | September 21, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Look, you're a newspaper. There were either 85,000 people at Beck's rally or 500,000. Do some fact checking, do some investigating and tell your readers which it was. There are not two sides to this fact. Start being useful.
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The above is a sentiment widely shared by so many. How much time has elapsed w/o checking attendance figures, that you've allowed (as all other media) Beck and others to give any statement they make the imprimatur of fact because the Post, as others in the country, have given them a pass. Since when are statements given equal weight if not supported by data?

Fact-checking is 101 for any org that wnats to be treated seriously.

Posted by: pecroma1 | September 21, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

So, snotty teenagers Stewart and Colbert will apologize for the utter failure of snotty teenager Barack Hussein Obama.

Too much snarky narcissism for anyone except the most spoiled of adolescent brats.


Posted by: Jerzy | September 21, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Important to note that there were about 87,000 white people at Beck's rally. And about 13 people of color.

Posted by: markiejoe | September 21, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Alsatian1 - A company that does crowd counting for its living released an estimate of 87,000. That is the fact. Check it.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | September 21, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

CBS estimates that there were 87,000 people attending Beck's rally; Beck claims the number was 500,000. These are both facts. Beck's followers aren't known for considering other views or facts, so their estiamte is actually correct!
History will tell!

Posted by: Rudesan | September 21, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse


Phew! Blessed are Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert & fans like me. The weepy idiot approved of the rally. I was worried sick that he might not. What arrogance!
One thing for sure. I don't know how the comedians would thrive without the Becks, Palins, Limbaughs, Hannitys, Bushs et al. They owe them for that.

Posted by: sarvenk63 | September 21, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Patriot12 should change his user ID to BrainDeadRedneckHidingBehindTheGuiseOfIndependentVoter.

Posted by: cjbass55 | September 21, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Why isn't Glenn just the clever psych major!

Posted by: poppysue85 | September 21, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse


Since both Comedy Central rallies are, in fact, anti-right-wing rallies, let's add 'em both up and see. Of course, Colbert will claim that 5 million will have attended his rally and show phony pictures, just like Fox News does.

It's hysterical.

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Apparently you don't watch the daily show because if you did you would have noticed that Jon Stewart's rally is against radicalism in every direction. The clip he showed during his announcement had many ridiculous liberals as it did conservatives.

Posted by: kanebrandon | September 21, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse


We can put a man on the moon but we can't count heads at some stupid rally?

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | September 21, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

" The AFL-CIO does plan to hold a rally on the Mall on Oct. 2 in response to the "Restoring Honor" march. "

The AFL-CIO wants to thank the Nutty Professor for all the taxpayer dollars they've been able to sock away in union bank accounts.

Posted by: ravioliman6666 | September 21, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm conflicted on this.. I do like Jon and Steven... I don't think Satire belongs on the Lincoln memorial site. My kids want to go.. I told them if Jon and Steven donate ALL the profits like Glenn did I would take them. So how about it... Jon and Steven...if you want to be like Glenn then I think you should donate.

Posted by: snidewoman | September 21, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

FACT: There were a lot of people at the MLK Dream Speech knockoff rally. Those who like Glenn Beck will go with the 500K figure, those who don't will go with the 87K figure. What I'm hoping they will make available at the Comedy Central rally is hats on a stick that people can place around the venue to make the aerial shots look more impressive. I know Colbert would approve.

Posted by: rjma1 | September 21, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I recall afterward they compared pictures of what 200,000 or so people look like on the Mall compared to the Beck rally. It was definitely less than half.

I love how Beck still calls what he and others are doing as "restoring honor." First of all it's a little self-aggrandizing to believe that a person holding a rally can restore any honor. And besides, honor was never lost. When things aren't going my way politically, I don't immediately feel that honor needs to be restored. No honor was lost, just an election was. Becks's rally was really more - "let's restore Republicans to power", than "restoring honor."

Posted by: jetrain | September 21, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

hey markejoe, make that 14 from your count of people of color because I am one of them and as well many of my relatives and friends who are also as you say "people of color"...we are tan, dark brown, beigey, red, and we numbered more than 14...we were there...were you??

Posted by: scotielanlinknet | September 21, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Alsatian1:

"Look, you're a newspaper. There were either 85,000 people at Beck's rally or 500,000. Do some fact checking, do some investigating and tell your readers which it was. There are not two sides to this fact. Start being useful."

You win the day.

Posted by: OliverKlozov | September 21, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Snidewoman -

FYI - you claimed that Beck donated the proceeds from his rally to charity. Not true - he donated what was left from the charity auction and other sources to raise $ for the rally only AFTER all the expenses for his rally were deducted. Which hardly seems like much of a donation to this veteran. (Beck has never seemed to interested in obeying the 9th Commandmant though...).

Colbert on the other hand has donated his money and time repeatedly to the miltiary - and we love him for it. If you want to show your kids what real honor looks like - take them to the rally.

Posted by: Ragnarov | September 21, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse


The Washington Post is soooo afraid of
Glenn Beck

that it can't tell the truth about his rally numbers? Catering to idiotic count?
What ELSE do you fudge?

Somebody tell the POST people that the Tea Pary is anti Jewish.... (seen any Jews as candidates or leaders? HMMM?)

Then watch the sticks fly. THe attacks. Even the truth. What a disgusting rag.

Posted by: whistling | September 21, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse


Patriot12. You assume you're more
patriotic than the rest of us?

You're not. Period.

As for Glenn Beck being 'just a psyc major'...please note that he didn't make it past high school. He is entirely uneducated. And it shows for anyone who is...

These people get more and more disgusting.
And louder and nastier. Which proves that at least they know how woefully inadequate they are.

Posted by: whistling | September 21, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

The more the unions and liberal--excuse me--"progressive" comedians hammer the Tea Partiers, the more the movement will grow.

Posted by: rollomoss2 | September 21, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Beck thinks? Just last night the creep was claiming that the government (progressives) would soon be coming to take our TVs and other appliances away.

This is supposed to be a newspaper, not a gossip rag aimed at teenagers.

Posted by: dougd1 | September 21, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Thank God they have Beck's approval.

Posted by: paul6554 | September 21, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Too bad Beck's rally failed in it's mission to restore honor -- to Glen Beck! It was more along the lines of Colbert's idea of "keeping fear alive".

Posted by: ja_nice38 | September 21, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

It's good to get as much publicity as possible....let both sides at each other, then wait for November 2nd to see just what the electorate response is going to be!
Lots of liberals will be disappointed!!!
(just my opinion...)

Posted by: SeniorVet | September 21, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

The nice thing about The Daily Show is it doesn't hesitate to poke fun at the left. Last night they harpooned a union fighting against WalMart. The union, it turned out, had hired non-unionized minimum wage workers to protest outside of WalMart. The union's treatment of the protesters was similar to WalMart's treatment of it's workers. It was a great piece.

And good for Jon Stewart showing the world what "fair and balanced" truly means.

Yes, they harpoon the right more often, but I think it's because the right is just more ridiculous. The Christian conservative Republican nominee for the Senate in Delaware used to dabble in Witchcraft?! Are you kidding me? You can't make this stuff up. And I really think if a Democrat was in the same position, he/she would be lampooned on The Daily Show just as fast.

Posted by: paul6554 | September 21, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I think most of the Beckies are pretty well convinced of the following equation:

liberal = union = communist = Nazi = Obama = welfare = Marxist = non-white = sissy = gay = nerd = professor = education = criminal = lazy = European = hippie = unpatriotic

They think this because they lack the capacity for nuanced perception of things they're told not to like, which were almost all crytallized in aspic following WWII. This leads them on a meaningless semantic search for "the good old days" that never were.

Posted by: KBfromNC | September 21, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

And we care about Glenn Beck's approval, why?

Posted by: sassafrasnewport | September 21, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

The Christian conservative Republican nominee for the Senate in Delaware used to dabble in Witchcraft?! Are you kidding me? You can't make this stuff up. And I really think if a Democrat was in the same position, he/she would be lampooned on The Daily Show just as fast.

Posted by: paul6554 | September 21, 2010 1:40 PM
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That's funny, because I really can't remember The Daily Show mocking Hillary Clinton for holding seances to communicate with Eleanor Roosevelt or having imaginary conversations with her.

Stewart and Colbert use the label "comedian" as a shield against criticism. They are both partisan hacks, Colbert much more so.

Funny how Stewart only wants to "restore sanity," when it is Democrats who are on the ropes and about to be clobbered at the polls.

I don't recall those same calls for moderation when liberals were spewing vile hatred about George Bush.

Whatever. Have their pointless rallies. It won't change the shellacking that's about to come on Nov. 2.

Posted by: etpietro | September 21, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

This isn't really about Beck, it's about the nut-jobs who worship him and the voyeuristic media that exploits them. It's fun to laugh at these people, but maybe we should be taking them more seriously. I mean, can you imagine if they every got any real power? It would be like George W. Bush all over again.

Posted by: DaveHarris | September 21, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Patriot12 wrote:

None of this matters.

All that matters is that the Democrats will be gone in November, ousted en masse by we Independent voters. ...
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You're about as Independent as Fox news is fair and balanced.

Posted by: georgereston | September 21, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

To Patriot12 and all you right-wing fanatics ... Go ahead and keep assuming the election is a done deal. If things keep going the way they're going (i.e., the Republican Party being overtaken by the extreme right wing), Republicans will be lucky to get their own moderates to vote for them let alone true independents.

Posted by: georgereston | September 21, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

rollomoss2: History is not on your side here. I remember very well the Perotistas in 1992 - and what ever became of that movement? Jesse Ventura as governor is about all. The Republicans, desperate to get their lips back on the chalice of big donor money, will happily co-opt your movement to get some votes and when they get in they will just as happily concentrate on their issues, deregulation and tax cuts, and kick working slobs in the crotch once again by hastening the shipment of jobs overseas to pad corporate wallets, dissembling any relief mechanisms (i.e. "commie welfare" and "socialized medicine"), further restrict the ability to redress grievances (i.e. "tort reform"), and gut regulation (e.g. "gee, why do all the kids in junior's class have asthma?").

The working class and lower middle-class electorally self-flagellate like it's going out of style in this country - while Beck and those like him cash checks.

But hey, at least you voted to keep gays from having a wedding.

Civilization saved.

Posted by: WoobieRex | September 21, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if Colbert and Stewart will wear bullet proof vests like ol' Glenn did during his rally?
http://www.politicususa.com/en/beck-bulletproof-vest

Guessing they're not afraid of the emotions they stir up.

Posted by: JustTheFacts11 | September 21, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Volunteers for a Fact Free America

Don't let newspapers and television change your opinions. Listen only to one news source (or less) and never read the newspapers or internet. Never let facts interfere with your opinions. The uninformed will always get the kind of government they deserve.

Posted by: BobD3 | September 21, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Dougd1 wrote:

"Who cares what Beck thinks? Just last night the creep was claiming that the government (progressives) would soon be coming to take our TVs and other appliances away."

Really? That's pretty funny actually. It shows that Beck doesn't even understand totalitarian tactics. In China, there are loads of TVs. Every household in the neighborhood I lived in had one as did most households I visited. They are essential for spreading propaganda and mis-information in a modern totalitarian state.

Mr Beck, if you are going to claim that Obama wants to set up a totalitarian state you should claim that he wants to nationalize all of the media outlets. Do I have to do all your work for you?

Posted by: rmillerxznu | September 21, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

If you are a Patriot, you don't have to call yourself one, we will know by your actions. Just like having to say "Fair and Balanced."

Liberals have fought and died for this country just like conservatives and the blood the spilled was just a red.

Argue you point without the bullcrap communist and socialist sound bites.

Posted by: rayboyusmc44 | September 21, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Two things:

(1) Hillary Clinton never held a seance to call on the spirit of Eleanor Roosevelt. She said she imagined them advising her. It's called a metaphor. I have seen this nonsense a couple of times in the past few days. It is an actual blatant falsehood -- what many people would call "a lie".

(2) We (as a society) can, indeed, put a man on the Moon (well, we could; right now, the jalopy is in the shop), and I am certain that we can count the number of people on the Mall to within reasonable accuracy. What we CAN'T do, is get people to agree that the count is reasonably accurate when they have an interest in obtaining a different result. The methodology is perfectly straightforward: acquire an aerial photo or a photo from a high vantage point, count the number of humans within some representative sections of the photo, then evaluate how much of the field of view is filled to a similar extent and scale accordingly. I expect you will come to within ±10% by such a method. I have personal experience with eyeballing crowds and correctly estimating the numbers accurately to within a few percent for crowds between 100 and 1700. It's just not that hard. But that doesn't mean that people will believe me if they don't want to.

I suspect that the 87,000 number is correct to within less than 10% error. However, it is in Beck's interest to manufacture the perception that objective news-reporting institutions actually have a specific political bias that would cause them to lie about such a number (by a factor of 6!), and so that frees him to claim whatever number he wants. Although I cannot imagine what financial incentive could motivate CBS to falsify such an evaluation, it is plainly obvious that Glenn Beck has a motive in inflating the crowd number and thus selling the idea of himself as a political force and an entertainer whose TV program deserves big advertising dollars.

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 21, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"them" meant "the spirits of former first ladies."

Posted by: ScienceTim | September 21, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Patriot12 said: "All that matters is that the Democrats will be gone in November, ousted en masse by we Independent voters.

America is fed up with the radical anti American ad hominem liberal agenda. "

I'm an Independent voter who doesn't think the current agenda is liberal enough. Don't be so sure we're all going to be in lockstep on election day.

Posted by: Fabrisse | September 21, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Colbert and Steward ought to lay off of Moist Glenn. After all, "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the Tears of Morons".

Posted by: irae | September 21, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

That's funny, because I really can't remember The Daily Show mocking Hillary Clinton for holding seances to communicate with Eleanor Roosevelt or having imaginary conversations with her.

Posted by: etpietro | September 21, 2010 2:06 PM
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Stewart didn't take over the Daily Show until 1999. He did make it more political than what it was before and I recall him going after both sides.

Colbert didn't have his own show until 2005.

The seance/conversation issue was 3 years before Jon took over the daily show and nine before Colbert had a show.

Posted by: drweidner1 | September 21, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see this pig approves. Can we move on now?

Posted by: password11 | September 21, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

How can you trust a thing that Fox does?

Thier news department was trained by Photo Shop, fer cryin out loud!

Fox News is just like Al Jazeera - they make up the news they want their fanatic viewers want to hear.


Posted by: trenda | September 21, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

We can put a man on the moon but we can't count heads at some stupid rally?

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC

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Yes we can count the heads and the experts are there at the National Park Service. But Nation of Islam's Louis Farrikan didn't like the fact that his "Million Man March" drew only 450,000. So he took a page from Jesse Jackson's playbook and threatened retaliation and the Park Service got out of the business of making headcounts.

Posted by: bbface21 | September 21, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Beck knows that these planned rallies have already turned his buffoonish event into a joke. Stewart and Colbert and hilariously waking up the nation to prevent a takeover by dangerous extremists.

Posted by: revbookburn | September 21, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

None of this matters.

All that matters is that the Democrats will be gone in November, ousted en masse by we Independent voters.

Posted by: Patriot12 | September 21, 2010 10:53 AM

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And Patriot12 predicts that there will be 435 GOP members of the House. Are you also predicting that there will be 100 GOP Senators as well?

I remember you predicted that Palin/McCain was the winning ticket in 2008. Well done.

Posted by: James10 | September 21, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Look, you're a newspaper. There were either 85,000 people at Beck's rally or 500,000. Do some fact checking, do some investigating and tell your readers which it was. There are not two sides to this fact. Start being useful.

Posted by: Alsatian1 | September 21, 2010 10:00 AM

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And you're supposed to click on the links that they provide in the story. You want someone from the Washington Post to come out to your house and hold your hand and click the mouse buttons for you also?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/story-lab/2010/08/how_big_will_the_crowd_be_at_t.html

Posted by: James10 | September 21, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Yes we can count the heads and the experts are there at the National Park Service. But Nation of Islam's Louis Farrikan didn't like the fact that his "Million Man March" drew only 450,000. So he took a page from Jesse Jackson's playbook and threatened retaliation and the Park Service got out of the business of making headcounts.

Posted by: bbface21 | September 21, 2010

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The Park Service got out of the business because Congress ordered the Park Service out by not allowing funds to be spent on crowd estimates. There was an exception made for the 2009 inaugural.

Perhaps a GOP Congress will have a Congressional hearing whether that was a Bush Administration violation of law or an Obama Administration violation of the law.

Since Bush's FY2008 budget is considered by the GOP to be an Obama deficit, I expect we know how that hearing will go.

Posted by: James10 | September 21, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

The AFL-CIO does plan an Oct. 2 rally on the Mall in response to the "Restoring Honor" march. "The AFL-CIO is determined that the Tea Party and its corporate backers are not going to get the final word," AFL-CIO Executive Vice President Arlene Holt Baker told the Daily Caller. "We will expect tens of thousands of union families to come."
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Note the final sentence! "EXPECT" more like you best show up of we will be taking names and kicking asssssess. LOL Of course the unions can bus in tens of thousands of members who are being led by the nose. You can bet the union shop stewards will be taking names of no shows and will punish them later. SEUI touts a third of their members are illegals. So I would suspect there will be a heavy Hispanic turnout there as well. All this will show is the union thugs have enormous power over the workers.

Posted by: usmc1969 | September 21, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Mock Glenn Beck and argue all you want about how many people attended his rally. The only count that really matters will be that of votes on November 2nd and we'll see who's laughing then.

Posted by: danamo | September 22, 2010 1:36 AM | Report abuse

In an interview of Glenn Beck with 20/20, Beck admitted that he converted to Mormonism without spiritual conviction and mocked religion believes as a joke; but in a rally with Sarah Palin, Beck positions himself as a Christian leader?

Glenn Beck on 20/20 “Phony Mormonism conversion”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nFu7CBPjVg

Glenn Beck: “…My wife is like hot and she wouldn’t have sex with me until we get married and she wouldn’t marry me unless we have a religion and I like…EKKKKK …you have to be kidding me…I have to go to church for this…”

Posted by: seansmith5511 | September 22, 2010 5:20 AM | Report abuse

"When a Religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its Professors are obliged to call for help of the Civil Power, it is a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."

Benjamin Franklin 1780

"As to religion, I hold it to be the indispensable duty of government to protect all conscientious protesters thereof, and I know of no other business government has to do therewith."

Thomas Paine, 1776

"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.''

James Madison, 1789

"As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Treaty of Tripoli, 1797 - signed by President John Adams

In just few months Tea Party leader Glenn Beck destroyed centuries of our Founding Fathers’ legacy.

Posted by: seansmith5511 | September 22, 2010 5:22 AM | Report abuse

Stewart and Colbert think they are so creative, with cutting - edge ideas. But the article says their rallies are "a response to" Beck's rally. These superior intellects are merely playing Follow - the -Leader, with Beck way out in front.

Posted by: JudyBird | September 25, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I am an independent and have voted Republican (when the party actually had ideas) far more than Democratic. Beck's attempts to logically connect unrelated pieces of information, his circular reasoning, and fallacious emotional outbursts, are both disturbing and humorous.

But, what really saddens me is the direction of this country when so many uninformed consider his drivel to be educational.

Posted by: drsfwjd | September 26, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Whether they are liberal or conservative, there are traits common to extremists of both stripes:

1. First and foremost, they hate. They hate those who don't agree with them, who don't display the same level of intolerance for those who disagree, and who tolerate any compromise with the ideologically impure (i.e. anyone who doesn't agree with their views 100%).

2. Their #1 way to debate is through personal attacks/insults. Call the other side "libs", "Rethugs", whatever - they think name-calling substitutes for reasoning and supports their points. It worked back on the playground, so why not here?

3. They possess only a superficial understanding of their positions. After all, if you really tried to understand all the nuances of policy and its impact, you might start to see shades other than pure black and white. Who knows, you might (gasp) start to consider that arguments would not last long if all the right was on 1 side. Far better to stop before you start to consider other viewpoints - your mind is made up, why confuse it with by learning more? How can you hate, demonize and impugn the character of those you disagree if you begin to understand an issue in-depth?

The Founding Fathers recognized and denounced "the spirit of faction." The Constitution was called "the Great Compromise." If it was up to today's extremists, the US would never have come into existence.

Posted by: bpai_99 | September 27, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

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