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Posted at 8:20 AM ET, 12/13/2010

Hundreds attend counter protest at Elizabeth Edwards's funeral

By Melissa Bell
Elizabeth Edwards
(Tommy Augustine)

Update, Dec. 13, 7:45 a.m.

Tommy Augustine, a N.C. resident, wrote an update about the day of the funeral:

It was chilly and rainy, but that didn't stop a lot of people from coming out. Police had tight security of the events, and they placed Westboro Baptist Church on on side of the street while having the counter protest on the other side of the street. I can't say it was a silent counter-protest because bikers, vets, and other people drove through the street (at times, more than once) that splits the opposing sides revving their engines, blare'n music, and laying on their horns. This surely drew loud cheers from the counter-protesting side.
I would say it was a success today. The fact that so many North Carolinians came out today did indeed isolate [Westboro Baptist Church's] voice from that of the community and state. I'm certainly proud of that.

To read more about the protest, check out Reliable Source.

Westboro protests Edwards
(Cheryl Senter/AP)

Update, 5:15 p.m.

One of the Facebook pages organizing the counter protest went down for a few hours Friday afternoon. The Raleigh News & Observer reports that it apparently crashed after 20,000 people shared the invitation on Facebook. Facebook said it was looking into the matter.

Update, Dec.10, 12:30 a.m.

After news spread Thursday of the Westboro church's planned protest of Elizabeth Edwards's funeral, counterprotests have sprung up through social media sites to block the Westboro members from view.

On Facebook, a group, "Protect Elizabeth Edwards' funeral from Westboro clan," has 861 people promising to attend the service, arriving in the morning and staying until after the funeral. "Let's create a human buffer between Elizabeth Edwards and the Westboro church," the invite reads.

Lucas Westmaas was looking for work online when he heard the news. He had a free weekend, so he jumped on a bus in Philadelphia, transferred in New York and headed to his friend's house in Durham, N.C. "It was a whim," Westmaas says, "but it struck a nerve with me." He assumed by the time he arrived someone would have organized a counter-action -- he says he does not like the term 'counterprotest' as he's not trying to protest anything, but rather give the family a measure of comfort on a difficult day.

"We want to keep it peaceful," Tammy Tiffany says. The Cary, N.C., housewife will be going to the counterprotest -- "cold or not, I'm going" -- because she is disturbed by the Westboro church's actions. "We'll just stand there and form a human barrier. People who are dealing with this kind of tragedy shouldn't have to deal with this kind of nonsense."

Dec. 9, 9:30 a.m.

According to the Westboro Baptist Church's Web site, the Kansas church known for its anti-homosexual protests will protest Elizabeth Edwards's funeral in Raleigh, N.C., near the Edenton Street United Methodist Church on Saturday.

Elizabeth Edwards died Tuesday from cancer. Westboro's Web site does not say why it has singled out Edwards's funeral, but it was likely protesting Edwards' stance on gay marriage: she once said she was completely comfortable with it.

The Edenton Street United Methodist Church said it is aware of the planned protest, and senior staff officials are meeting to decide what to do about the issues surrounding it.

More on this story:

The Westboro Church meets its match in counter-protest.

Supreme Court considers Westboro Baptist Church's anti-gay protests at military funerals.

By Melissa Bell  | December 13, 2010; 8:20 AM ET
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Comments

Attention hogs.

No class.

No human respect.

No point to it at all.

Just hurt other people gratutiously to get on TV.

Go crawl back under your rock.

Too bad the media will play the game and cover it.

Posted by: drjcarlucci | December 9, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

And of course they got their name in WaPo because they decided to do this.

Elizabeth Edwards was a fine lady. All of us who loved her for who she was and what she stood will just keep saying that.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | December 9, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

And of course they got their name in WaPo because they decided to do this.

Elizabeth Edwards was a fine lady. All of us who loved her for who she was and what she stood for will just keep saying that.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | December 9, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Why even give these Westboro Church nut jobs any press at all. Her family needs time to grieve and heal.

Posted by: lencharette | December 9, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

These are very sick people who would do this.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | December 9, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

WaPo has to give a story like this at least nominal coverage so that citizens in a postion to respond can take action.
I can't wait to go to their funerals - party on!

Posted by: Rudesan | December 9, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Elizabeth Edwards and her grieving family deserve better than to have a bunch of loud bigots disrupt her funereal. She was the definition of grace under pressure. maybe John Edwards will 'man up' and sue the cr@p out of these nut jobs!

Posted by: 10bestfan | December 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

The Westboro people (will not use "church" as they are far from the "Christians" they profess to be) are sick, hateful, hurtful bastards. They hide behind religion and do NOTHING to help people spiritually.

Posted by: azspots | December 9, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Let them protest.

Their protest will further expose them as being a group of mean spirited people falsely claiming to be Christains.

Mrs. Edwards would appreciate them showing their true colors on national TV.

Posted by: WESHS49 | December 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I think some of the soldiers at Ft. Bragg should offer their services and secure the perimeter at that funeral. I also encourage any civilians to challenge those creepy repulsive Westboro weirdos up close and personal. I wish I could be there to do my part.

Posted by: redhotCAPSaicin | December 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The Westboro Baptists are anti-Christian barbarians, and their disruption of soldiers' private funerals are the equivalent of random acts of violence.

I am likewise appalled that they would disrupt Ms. Edwards' funeral, but at least she was a public figure. If our law enforcement system manages to keep these vicious people away from her funeral, but not from all those private people's funerals (whose grieving families had no recourse but to sue them after the fact for infliction of emotional distress), then it really is true that the machinery of our government serves only the interests of the privileged classes.

Posted by: Itzajob | December 9, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the liberals will now see the folly of their ridiculous notions of free speech when these toads disrupt the funeral Mrs. Edwards.

Posted by: carlbatey | December 9, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Do the people have to pay for their local police to protect these wackos every time they show up to make a scene at a funeral? Or do the Westboro loonies bring their own armed protectors?

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | December 9, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

The tacit approval that the lapdog liberal media and radical liberals will be tested now. When these crapwipes protest at military funerals, the radical liberals cry about free speech and the first amendment, liberal judges find for the homophobes when military families sue, then make the families pay court costs. Great way to reward bad behavior.

This will not be a military funeral, this will be a funeral of a darling of the progressives, and one that was slighted by her husband at her time of great need.

It will be interesting to see all the contortions the media will have to go through to not seem hypocritical.

Posted by: thelaw1 | December 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I would encourage the citizens of Raleigh to unite in opposition to Westboro's plan to commit sacrilege in God's name. The Phelpses and their followers are not only dangerously deranged, they are heretical, apostate in the Christian faith, and strangers to common human decency.

Let the Elizabeth Edwards funeral be a great gathering, and let the decent people of Raleigh stand as a human barrier against the desecration of her memory. Mrs. Edwards' life was the very model of faithful Christian virtue, and there must be a line drawn against Westboro's feckless, faithless villainy.

The Phelps family and their followers have abandoned true faith in favor of an unholy creed that exhorts them to indulge in the sins of Pride and Wrath. They are to be stopped, in the name of the Christian faith they desecrate.

Posted by: lonquest | December 9, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Replying to: Maybe the liberals will now see the folly of their ridiculous notions of free speech when these toads disrupt the funeral Mrs. Edwards.

Posted by: carlbatey | December 9, 2010 11:05 AM |

You're half-right, Carl: The Westboro contingent are indeed toads. But your point about free speech is nearly as ridiculous as theirs. Yes, we liberals support the airing of different points of view, even ones we find vile. But the question is whether the funeral of a private citizen is a fit venue for hatemongers to exercise those rights. And I think very few people believe it is OK for them to disrupt Mrs. Edwards' funeral.

Posted by: DCSteve1 | December 9, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I think some of the soldiers at Ft. Bragg should offer their services and secure the perimeter at Ms. Edwards' funeral. I also encourage any civilians to challenge those creepy repulsive Westboro weirdos up close and personal. I wish I could be there to do my part.

Posted by: redhotCAPSaicin | December 9, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

what the wbc promotes isn't much different than what many christians write on these pages, they just do it out in the open instead of hiding behind a computer screen. i think that the wbc is despicable in their behavior as are the same posters who would deny gay americans their rights based on the same principles of the wbc. as a north carolinian i've had good feelings for this lady who by all accounts was warm compassionate and extremely intelligent, may she rest in peace.

Posted by: blinwilly | December 9, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

As a minister for the Holy Gospel Of Jesus Christ, I stand on the Sacred and Revealed Scriptures in the Holy Bible, in absolute and total opposition to this disgraceful and shameful protest! As Christians we are to bring people closer to God, not judge, condemn nor shame 'The Church of God', in our attempt to bring contempt to a woman and her family at a time like this. As Christians we are required to represent the virtues of 'Christ' and the 'Church', not our personal delusional supplementation of God's virtues. To act and behave in such a manner is odious and 'anti-Christ'. This screams of shame and occultism. Our thoughts, ideas, conduct and social discourse is codified in the Holy Bible. We are compelled to abide by it, without exception. We are to be understanding, kind, compassionate, loving, caring and sharing of the 'Gospel Of Jesus'. I assure you, this shameful and pseudo-protest is not the aforementioned. The history of 'occults' remains unchanged, they always employ this poison and diabolical 'switch', where they change places with God and claim to be God speaking and acting. History is replete with the horrible consequences for such conduct. I know that it is tempting to want to 'play' God, but there is only 'One' Lord and Savior and that is Jesus Christ and HIS Church of HIM and not of this mess! May God Bless Mrs. Elizabeth Edwards and keep her family, loved one and friends in HIS Holy and Loving Province. And, I pray to God to forgive these fools, for "they know not what they do". Amen

Posted by: Atpeace45211 | December 9, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

You all realize that this vile scum bag phelps and his reptilian daughter have made it clear on many occassions that their hope is to provoke a funeral attendee to attack them, then sue and use any settlement to feed their pernicious den of vipers. They are the lowest scum on earth.

Posted by: John1263 | December 9, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Like any thinking person, I am disgusted. But I think that Elizabeth Edwards would be proud at this confirmation that her life truly mattered.

Posted by: catsndogs | December 9, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

These are despicable people and they should be horsewhipped, then tarred and feathered and ridden out of NC on a rail! Elizabeth Edwards left behind two small children and these cretinous yahoos have absolutely no right to do anything that would increase the pain and stress they are experiencing!

Phelps and his fugly daughter should and will burn in hell for their horrid behavior! Scum is a kind appellation for both of them.

Posted by: savkobabe | December 9, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

"Maybe the liberals will now see the folly of their ridiculous notions of free speech when these toads disrupt the funeral Mrs. Edwards." Say what? It was the Founding Fathers, and numerous of others (including conservatives) who have come up with, and perpetuated, the Constitutional right to free speech. I don't think it's liberals who protest against hate speech laws. This so-called Christian group is more extreme than most anti-gay rights groups and would, in many ways, be right at home in places like Iran, whose ruling religion feels, as to many Christian groups, that homosexuality is a sin.

Posted by: Sutter | December 9, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I have no particular love for Elizabeth Edwards but this is nearly as despicable as the protests at military funerals.

Posted by: Jen06 | December 9, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

This is one of these articles that deserve a resounding 'WTF'. They are despicable and have no shred of human decency.

Posted by: ADaisyADay | December 9, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

The disgusting Westboro bunch only gives liberals more fodder to attack Christianity at large.

Posted by: thebink | December 9, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Come on, they just want to take back their country from gay Muslim Kenyan socialists. The fine christians of the Westboro Baptist Church are the ultimate teahadists.

Are their birth certificates in order?

You betcha!

Posted by: Garak | December 9, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

They are despicable and have no shred of human decency.

Posted by: ADaisyADay | December 9, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

So much for christianity.

Posted by: boleson02 | December 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Just let's wait and see if they run into some of those good ole boys down there - the type that still say ma'am to a woman (Boxer does not count). It could be a truly sweet knockdown of the ages if the free speech tables were turned on these Westboro church hypocrits.

Posted by: zendrell | December 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Literally makes me sick. It truly boggles the mind how anyone can be as hateful as that bunch of miscreants.

Posted by: lmyron | December 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse


I heard the Westboro men like the gay bars in Raleigh and nearby?

No, honestly, someday, somewhere, someone is going to get hurt at one of their idiotic "protests."

WWJD?

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | December 9, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Just ignore them, they are fed by our attention no matter how vitriolic.

Posted by: ozpunk | December 9, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

These folks are totally out of touch with reality. I understand more each day about citizens being driven to the point of taking certain situations into their own hands and taking corrective action. This is shameful and just think about what family and close friends will feel. Totally misplaced judgement.

Posted by: RationalThinker3 | December 9, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

What a disgraceful organization! Why would they protest at such a time for a family who is deeply greiving? What is their purpose?

Posted by: kwhit2002 | December 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

The folks at Westboro are deeply misguided and have been wrongly led far away from the love and mercy of God by their sick "pastor".

Posted by: JKJ88 | December 9, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

What the heck is wrong with these people? Seriously?

Posted by: forgetthis | December 9, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I wish our conservative pseudochristians would just go ahead and move to Afghanistan, where they'd be much more at home. Evangelicals, there are NO GAYS IN IRAN! It's a utopia for you. GO!

Posted by: B2O2 | December 9, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't the government declare that they are terrorists and freeze the organization and the individual bank accounts so they can't afford to travel and disrupt honorable funerals. They are no different than ALQueda or Taliban.
This is not s free speech issue bute a hate crime.

Posted by: msjn1 | December 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

i for one do not want to see this garbage reported in the washington post.

it serves no purpose.

Posted by: brickerd | December 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

for all of you christians who wonder why agnostics like myself blame you for this type of behavior, try reading leviticus20:13, "if a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." sounds pretty cut and dry to me. taken from the gideon bible.

Posted by: blinwilly | December 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I think that several hundred thousand people should protest at Westover Baptist Church in Kansas. Show these A$$wipes what America feels about them.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | December 9, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Someone should arrest these people for littering the planet with their trash and filth. Elizabeth Edwards had NOTHING to do with any of this church's so-called "causes." These people are vile and make me, and everyone, ashamed to be called an "American."

Posted by: chuckbloom | December 9, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Fred Phelps' attacks on the morale of our soldiers should get him labeled an enemy combatant and housed at Gitmo. Then hopefully the children he has abused in his own family might be able to begin healing as well.

Posted by: SageThrasher | December 9, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

The tacit approval that the lapdog liberal media and radical liberals will be tested now. When these crapwipes protest at military funerals, the radical liberals cry about free speech and the first amendment, liberal judges find for the homophobes when military families sue, then make the families pay court costs. Great way to reward bad behavior.

This will not be a military funeral, this will be a funeral of a darling of the progressives, and one that was slighted by her husband at her time of great need.

It will be interesting to see all the contortions the media will have to go through to not seem hypocritical.

Posted by: thelaw1 | December 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse


You'd make a good Westboro member. You're as senseless and hostile as they are.

Posted by: Bridge3263 | December 9, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

The tacit approval that the lapdog liberal media and radical liberals will be tested now. When these crapwipes protest at military funerals, the radical liberals cry about free speech and the first amendment, liberal judges find for the homophobes when military families sue, then make the families pay court costs. Great way to reward bad behavior.

This will not be a military funeral, this will be a funeral of a darling of the progressives, and one that was slighted by her husband at her time of great need.

It will be interesting to see all the contortions the media will have to go through to not seem hypocritical.

Posted by: thelaw1 | December 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse


You'd make a good Westboro member. You're as senseless and hostile as they are.

Posted by: Bridge3263 | December 9, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

@Atpeace45211

Amen, padre.

Posted by: petworth | December 9, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I am beginning to believe if there was no religion, the entire world would be at PEACE.

Posted by: rbsher | December 9, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

The tacit approval that the lapdog liberal media and radical liberals will be tested now. When these crapwipes protest at military funerals, the radical liberals cry about free speech and the first amendment, liberal judges find for the homophobes when military families sue, then make the families pay court costs. Great way to reward bad behavior.

This will not be a military funeral, this will be a funeral of a darling of the progressives, and one that was slighted by her husband at her time of great need.

It will be interesting to see all the contortions the media will have to go through to not seem hypocritical.

Posted by: thelaw1 | December 9, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse
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It's not so much radical liberals crying free speech, it's that radical U.S. Constitution. Once we start cutting away our rights (even for d-bag Westboro Baptist Church), we will all start crying.

Posted by: sarahabc | December 9, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Have to love those southern taliban... I mean baptists.

Posted by: whocares666 | December 9, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

These Westboro people are heathen!! No church, no religion, and no Holy Spirit in any of them...just abominations.

Posted by: fairness3 | December 9, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The only thing that will stop these "Westboro" animals will be to pull them out of their picket line, one by one - male & female, take them around back and kick the everloving s/h/i/t out of them. I WISH one of them would even THINK of coming to the funeral of one of mine...the six o'clock news story would read very, very differently.

Posted by: NY2VAGIRL | December 9, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

No respect.

These "Christians" are gonna have a problem w/ St. Peter's screening process.

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | December 9, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

This church should be ashamed to show their faces anywhere. Elizabeth Edwards was an
upstanding woman. She and her family need peace now more than ever.

Posted by: amyrb29412 | December 9, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Whatever these demons decide to do, it won't take away from who Ms. Edwards was, a truly wonderful woman. Had she had the right man by her side, she would have made a nation proud to call "First Lady." I trust that God will take whatever they do for evil and turn it into good.
Luke 10:27
Jesus said “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’ ; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

If they go forward with their plans, it just further exposes them as the imposters they truly are. No one who truly Loves God would knowingly, boastfully go about hurting their neighbor, especially during this most difficult time that anyone could go through.

Posted by: frogger525_2000 | December 9, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

i for one do not want to see this garbage reported in the washington post.

it serves no purpose.

Posted by: brickerd | December 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

__________________
then perhaps you'd prefer the cartoons? out of hundreds of articles published on any given day, i'm sure there are many you are not interested in, like most of us. why take the time to protest about it instead of just moving on?

Posted by: sassafrasnewport | December 9, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

i for one do not want to see this garbage reported in the washington post.

it serves no purpose.

Posted by: brickerd | December 9, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

__________________
then perhaps you'd prefer the cartoons? out of hundreds of articles published on any given day, i'm sure there are many you are not interested in, like most of us. why take the time to protest about it instead of just moving on?

Posted by: sassafrasnewport | December 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Those wackos clearly have WAY too much spare time on their hands!

www.privacy-solutions.edu.tc

Posted by: clermontpc | December 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I would love to see a many large groups, several thousand strong, to encircle the Westboro haters and keep them away from the funeral procession and burial while singing songs of love and joy.

Posted by: morgansher | December 9, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

It is so obvious that these in-breds want attention.

It was irresponsible for the Post to even report it.

Posted by: sflesher2002 | December 9, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Use these religious fanatics for target practice. They have no right to protest a private funeral. They should be strung up by the short hairs and wacked all day long with the use of a bible.

Posted by: snowskier777 | December 9, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Take a close look at the Westboro group! They're protesting other people's sins and some of them look like gluttony is a virtue and they certainly think HATE is a virtue. These aren't Christians.

Despite their hatefulness they have a right to free speech but I remember when the GOP convention was here in NY and we were NOT allowed to protest except 3 miles away where the poor compassionate conservatives couldn't hear us! So this kind of "protest" and hate has always been condoned by the conservatives in this country.

Free speech in this country for conservatives only applies to them not US.

They're lucky that progressives aren't trigger happy 2nd amendment people or all those hateful Westboro folk would be going home in body bags and pickup trucks.

If there is a hell I hope those hypocrites get to burn in it.

Posted by: davidbronx | December 9, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Please know that these horrible people are not Christians and do not speak on behalf of the Church.

Posted by: dkingbooth | December 9, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

The overwhelming majority of comments posted condemn the outrageous behavior of this despicable crowd. Don't Baptists have some central ecclesiastical authority to prevent their shameful display of bigotry and disrespect for the dead and the mourners. Free speech is not license. A person's freedom ends where it is a threat or does harm to another.

Kudos to those who block their hateful signs.

My heart goes out to the mourners. May they have peace.

Posted by: castleb | December 9, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Remember, protest is a two-way street. Counter demonstrators can simply show up outside a Sunday service and chant and holds signs as well.

Turnabout is fair play.

Posted by: RealTexan1 | December 9, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I think people should show up with HUGE signs of caring for Elizabeth & sing Amazing Grace to drown out the chanters.

Posted by: postreader118 | December 9, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

This is disgusting! They have been getting away with it at Military funerals by using the 1st Amendment right. Now it seems they are branching out. My right to free speech ends at the other mans fence. I believe they could find another way to protest homosexuality. L:ike maybe saying a few prayers if they really want to change things.

Posted by: Tankersmom44 | December 9, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

After I posted my previous comment, I browsed through more of the responses. I was surprised the occasional snide attacks on liberals as champions of freedom of speech. Such delicious irony.

In my view, liberalism (and the American value system) advocates integrity, compassion, and respect for others, even those with whom I may disagree. Of course, I support the first amendment, but I I believe that license is an abuse of freedom, which must have boundaries. One person's freedom ends where hurt to another begins.

Just as the WBC people think they are exercising "free speech," so do those who post disparaging comments about others.
That is what is so ironic about the gratuitous insults directed at liberals as somehow complicit in the meanspirited behavior of the WBC. They rightly judge the WBC's abuse of their freedom of speech as they exercise their own in disrespecting those with whom they may disagree politically.

Most of us protest the actions of the WBC because it is hurtful, disrespectful to our fellow citizens, regardless of ethnicity, religious affiliation, sexual orientation. However, to use discussions on this cyberforum as an opportunity to take a shot at "liberals" or anyone else you may disagree with is simply engaging in the very abuse of free speech that you condemn. Think about it.

Posted by: castleb | December 9, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's the story of yet another American "Christian" church that regularly burns non-King James Version Bibles in its rather misguided attempts to purge the world of what it regards as sacrilege:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2010/09/united-states-equal-opportunity-book.html

Posted by: Baywoodfarm | December 9, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

This is the type of the far right attack that discraces the whole christian community. Free speech is for all. Attacking is not commendable.we all believe in something, but discrace will only come back to haunt. Billy Grahm ram it down your throat went out in the 70's. Can't believe it. Leave the family alone...

Posted by: rhowarth1walrus | December 9, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I do not agree with homosexuality and yes I believe it's a sin -- I also think being mean spirited and unsympathetic to a grieving family is a sin - it's called lack of compassion. Did you ever read the one about "Do unto others...?" It's in my King James Bible, NKJV and a couple of other translations I have. I bet it's even in the original Greek, Hebrew, etc. My God will not like this!! If you claim to be a Christian, YOUR God wouldn't either! He has taught us to lead by example - what example are you leading with?

Posted by: Indy60 | December 9, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

The religious can always be counted on to show the most nasty and despicable behavior, I guess it comes with the low intelligence necessary to believe in imaginary beings.

Posted by: Chad1 | December 9, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I do not agree with homosexuality and yes I believe it's a sin -- I also think being mean spirited and unsympathetic to a grieving family is a sin - it's called lack of compassion. Did you ever read the one about "Do unto others...?" It's in my King James Bible, NKJV and a couple of other translations I have. I bet it's even in the original Greek, Hebrew, etc. My God will not like this!! If you claim to be a Christian, YOUR God wouldn't either! He has taught us to lead by example - what example are you leading with?

Posted by: Indy60 | December 9, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

this westboro so-called church. is nothing more than a cult!!!!they are a disgrace as people, and have the feds revoke any tax excempt status that they might have, also start looking into all of their backgrounds, and make their lives a little more stressfull.

Posted by: sttwo2000 | December 9, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I think her family should have a private celebration of her life at an undisclosed time so that they are not even there when these sick disillusioned, illiterate and bigoted members of the Westboro church show up for their unwanted protest of anyone who might draw press. They are so completely insensitive to anyone else that they are actually doing more harm to their cause than good.

Posted by: ninya61 | December 9, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

all veterans come to rescue mrs edwards frm these queers jimmy the sniper

Posted by: jimmymishoe92 | December 9, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Protest a funeral? To what end? So that the deceased may come back to life?

Personally, regardless of the reasons someone might want to smack the deceased, it's really poor form.

Ever hear of KARMA?

Posted by: OlafGunderson | December 9, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Wait, this lunatic group of fascists is naming a place and a time when they are going to be in public?

Someone tell me this isn't a nightstick's Christmas present come true...

Posted by: naols125 | December 9, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

This is an issue of respect. I don't care if the protesters are totally in agreement with me or not..its just plain wrong to disrupt a funeral. There aren't any laws to address this because until the Westboro "Church" started doing this, people just didn't disrupt funerals. So now we have to find a way to legislate "respect for the dead and grieving". In the meantime, why aren't these people charged with "disturbing the peace"?? Their presence at funerals is surely doing that. To be honest, I'm surprised a grieving family member hasn't let loose on them yet..I surely would. And I'm one of those "liberal idiots." But again, while I surely support free speech, I also surely support respect!!

Posted by: Susie13 | December 10, 2010 1:59 AM | Report abuse

I hope the residents totally ring the funeral home and the cemetary to keep the ghouls at bay. And they should stand there with pithforks in their hands, and dogs heeling. And local and state police should join in!

Those idiots from the Westbury Church of Satan are nothing but evil garbage. I think they doth protest too much, and are pedophiles, rapists, sexual perverts, etc.

Posted by: Callie369 | December 10, 2010 3:29 AM | Report abuse

I hate, not, to burst all you wacko screwballs bubbles but THERE CAN BE NO SUCH THING AS A HOMOSEXUAL CHRISTIAN. Anyone who professes to be christian and gay is a hypocrit and must ignore or throw out certain portions of the bible to be able to percieve theirselves as christians. If they confess before god that they have sinned and ask for forgivness and stop their sinfull behavior then they can become christians. No matter how good they may be they cannot be true christians and behave that way as it goes against the bibles teachings.
The people from the westboro church ,if they actually spout hate messages, cannot be true christians either as that kind of behavior also goes against the bibles teachings. On the other hand if they are merely protesting homosexual activity and are witnessing to the homosexuals in an attempt to teach them the error of their ways then we have another situation where the sinful people feel they have a right to push their beliefs on everyone else while these same people feel thet anyone with an opposing view does not have an equal right to do the same which is unfair and wrong. Since when is it right for one side to have a full loud voice while insisting that the opposing view should not be allowed that same voice.
All you people should read the bible and follow its teachings if you are going to call yourselves christians and I'm not talking about the edited version that you delussional hypocrits must use so that you don't have to be exposed to the parts of the bible that don't agree with what you want to do and the way you want to live your life.

Posted by: selbyc4sell | December 10, 2010 5:59 AM | Report abuse

They are religious laiwyars. Most all my posts get banned. I want my freedom of speech also, but i get threatened with death, assaults and tortured by the government who is supposed to be protecting my rights.
Exterminate the US Ma r i n e c or p

Posted by: EyemNotFree | December 10, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

Like Muslims who fail to denounce and restrain their murderous terrorists, Palin's theocons remain silent about their inbred teabagger cousin Fred Phelps desecrating funerals including those of our fallen soldiers.

On 9/11, I saw my Muslim co-workers "high fiving" each other when the towers were attacked. There is no doubt Huckabees do the same over Phelp's display of their "Christian love"

Posted by: areyousaying | December 10, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

This is just plain stupid! Do these people really think they are making a difference..some people who call themselves christians really are not. The people of this chruch should really stop and take a look at their own lives before they throw stones at others...I am sure some of those families have gay relatives..what are they doing hiding that fact for fear of their congregation attacking and protesting them??

I am tired of so called christians acting and saying anything they want and hiding behind the bible...would Jesus really want people to act this way??

Get a grip people we (the press) need to stop giving attention to this group maybe then they would just go away.

Posted by: metwo1 | December 10, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Honestly. First, our soldiers. Now this.
So am I the only person that feels abortion should be legalized under specific conditions and made retroactive for 'humans' like the members of this inbred group of creatures? Maybe a heavy dose of chlorine in the gene pool is called for??
Phelps, there's a special place ...in hell reserved for those who use their false christianity for purposes such as yours. Enjoy the heat.

Posted by: jera1 | December 10, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

@areyousaying, SERIOUSLY? Do you actually believe you are anywhere close to being accurate? IF you truly believe what you're saying, I put you in the same burning boat as Phelps' family. NO ONE with an ounce of human dignity supports or applauds this activity! COME ON!!!

Posted by: jera1 | December 10, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

It appears that we cannot even hold a funeral without someone or somebodies wanting to ruin it. A funeral is to be respected for any and all reasons known to we as a civilized nation...perhaps with all the Homeland spying and wanting us to rat out our friends and neighbors, we are getting beyond the point of compassionate, caring and respectful citizens...regardless of who is being buried, it is a sad, difficult time for family and friends. Can we not stand back and respect their feelings. Can we not offer a smile, a soft spoken word of love and heartfelt compassion to the grieving? These people that are protesting, regardless of the reason, justified through Biblical teachings or not, are not doing the work of Christ whom they are supposed to be serving. It is up to our Lord to do the judging, not us.

Posted by: siouxcro1 | December 10, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

"While it's true that only God can judge you, it also won't take Him more than a couple seconds"....with these Westboro church fools!

Posted by: ohwell1 | December 10, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

"So much for Christianity."
Please. This is NOT Christianity at work. True Christianity teaches respect and love -- this demonstration is neither.

Posted by: sdl63 | December 10, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Re: rbsher.
IMAGINE that!

Posted by: onlyme1118 | December 10, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Hyperreligiosity:
Is the ill-fitting grasp of the role of religion and God in one's life. It is a disability that can lead to killing in the name of God, or isolation from some aspects of society in the name of religion
It is used to describe how religious thinking can become distorted in people who have certain types of emotional and mental problems
It also means the same thing as when others say “toxic faith.” Hyperreligiosity is a more established psychiatrically-used term for toxic faith.

A person that is religious, suffers to a degree from what is called "delusional disorder", a psychotic illness Which includes the following criteria for their delusions:

1. The individual expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
2. That idea appears to exert an undue influence on his or her life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
3. Despite their profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the person is questioned about it.
4. The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
5. There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to them, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
6. An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
7. The belief is, at the least, unlikely.
8. The person is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of their psyche (psychology).
9. The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusional beliefs.
10. Individuals who know the person will observe that their belief and behavior are uncharacteristic and alien.

Based on these criteria, religious belief in virtually all cases matches up with the official psychiatric definition for what constitutes a delusional belief - the hallmark and sole criteria of delusional disorder.
Schizophrenia is closely related to delusional disorder, but with disorganized thinking and hallucinations.


Posted by: 3rdrockstudio | December 10, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I DO THANK THE RALEIGH N.C. POLICE WILL ALLOW THIS , I HOPE NOT

Posted by: GAMMONS1 | December 10, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

IDO NOT THINK THE RALEIGH NC POLICE WILL ALLOW THIS.

Posted by: GAMMONS1 | December 10, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Ok then, why don't Baptists sue to stop Phelps from using their name on his "church"?

Posted by: areyousaying | December 10, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

The Sleeze balls strike again. They are sick and disgusting.

Posted by: libertyanne | December 10, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

These people are NOT christians. They are sanctimonious hypocrites who spout vile and evil comments to hear their own voices. I can call myself anything, but when it walks like a duck, it's probably a duck and this duck quacks like an ignorant hypocrite. They don't represent christians because they are not christians. Elizabeth Edwards was a good woman who suffered many losses in her life and in spite of those losses, she remained a good mother and died in dignity. It would be a kindness to her children if she could be buried in dignity.

Posted by: bobbiecollins | December 11, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

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