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Posted at 2:47 PM ET, 12/ 3/2010

Eli Manning: overrated QB, or the most overrated QB?

By Jason Woodmansee

I have extra bias against Eli Manning. Not only am I a Redskins fan, but I live in San Diego, and people in San Diego HATE Eli Manning. This is significant because people in San Diego don't really hate anything, except for when the temperature drops below 65 (the last two weeks have been brutal - I've needed a jacket). If you wear the opponent's jersey at Chargers games, you don't get beer dumped on you like you would in New Jersey, or thrown up on like you would in Philly, or stabbed with a sharpened toothbrush like you would in Oakland. San Diegans will engage you in polite conversation and then recommend the fish tacos (which are awesome, by the way). This zen-like ambivalence went right out the window when Eli and the Giants came to town in 2005. It was like LeBron returning to Cleveland last night - boos, taunts, signs, effigies. It's hard not to get caught up in that sort of fun.

Now, I am not saying that Eli Manning is a terrible quarterback - he obviously isn't. If he was no good, he wouldn't have the opportunity to be overrated. Eli plays for NEW YORK (ok, really New Jersey) and is a part of the Manning family, so he gets endorsement deals and always seems to be on my TV. Philip Rivers, the guy the Chargers picked instead of Manning, puts up better numbers but he's not nearly as well known. I don't even see him in cheesy local ads. Of course, Rivers doesn't have a Super Bowl ring, but that's mostly because he's saddled with Norv Turner as a coach. If Johnny Unitas was coached by Norv Turner, he would have started every year 2-5 as well.

That 2007 ring that Eli has drives me nuts as well. I will go to my death bed convinced that the 2007 Redskins were a better team than the 2007 Giants (this may create an odd scene there at the very end). The Redskins finished one game behind the Giants, had similar offensive and defensive rankings and beat the Giants handily at the end of the season (not to mention the fact that one of the Redskins' best players died). But because of that extra win, the Giants got a more favorable playoff draw and managed to stumble their way to the Super Bowl, where they played a game as though they were personally touched by the hand of God. This biggest downside is that any argument you make about Eli Manning being overrated is countered by "but he won a Super Bowl." Dah.

So, on Sunday, I will watch Eli Manning and listen to the announcers talk about his "poise" and about his football pedigree. Then, for equal time, I will spend three hours browsing ManningFace.com. I have a feeling I'll enjoy the second part a lot more.

By Jason Woodmansee  | December 3, 2010; 2:47 PM ET
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The Giants stumbled into the Super Bowl??? Man I know you don't like him, but they won 3 games all on the road including a win in frigid Green Bay. As far as being overrated, to me he's not that highly rated! But he is tied for the league lead in TDs, 8th in yards, 65% completion percentage and a 90 QB rating. That dude really sucks:) And before you jump on the INTs...he has 1 more than Brees (who I bet you have a high regard for).

Posted by: LB89 | December 3, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

You're right, I should have said that they got hot/lucky at the right time. I also should have posted more stats - Campbell/Collins in 2007 had a better QB rating that year than Eli. I'm just bitter.

Posted by: jasonwoodmansee | December 3, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh, just be quiet already. I swear bloggers use Eli Manning as a topic to gain a new career or something. The Eli over-rated question is so DONE. Manning is an excellent quarterback and sharp as a tack. The Giants are lucky to have him. If New York doesn't appreciate him, trade him to the Redskins. I'd be absolutely stoked to have him over McNabb.

Posted by: equ28 | December 3, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

The author is a LOSER..............rooting for the Rotskins and living in the land of No Rings!!!!!!!!

We know Eli throws some really bad passes and cannot slide but he is still a winner and you are still picking one........

Posted by: lucary_99 | December 4, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I do agree Eli is no Peyton for sure. However he is serviceable and can win you some games. I Also agree the Redskins as well as a few other teams in the NFC were better than the Giants in '07.

Now as far as the Super Bowl goes and the touched by God thing... it's nonsense.

The NFC rep was gonna win that game regardless of which team it was and this is why: The Patriots had more pressure on them not to lose that game than any team in any one game in all of sports history! It's that simple. They played NOT TO LOSE and when you do that you will always lose.

Posted by: skins91r | December 4, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I do agree Eli is no Peyton for sure. However he is serviceable and can win you some games. I Also agree the Redskins as well as a few other teams in the NFC were better than the Giants in '07.

Now as far as the Super Bowl goes and the touched by God thing... it's nonsense.

The NFC rep was gonna win that game regardless of which team it was and this is why: The Patriots had more pressure on them not to lose that game than any team in any one game in all of sports history! It's that simple. They played NOT TO LOSE and when you do that you will always lose.

Posted by: skins91r | December 4, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Whether you want to accept it or not; Eli is one of the best quarter backs in the league today. Plain and simple! The NY Giants under Eli Manning has made the playoffs in 2005, 2006, 2007(Super Bowl Winner), and 2008. Can you say the same about Jason Campbell; who if you didn’t notice is doing better than McNab . You’re right; the New York Giants play in New Jersey. If I’m not mistaken the Washington Deadskins play in Maryland, so what does that say? Your just fool and idiot trying to make a name for yourself on the back of the proven and effective quarter back. Why don’t you blog about something useful, like the useless Skins organizations that have brought nothing but 12 years of despair and defeat to a once proud and feared football franchise. Tomorrow will be an all but familiar game for the skins as they face play elimination for the 4th straight year, despite what you blog about Eli Manning today

Posted by: verjj | December 4, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

One more San Diego crybaby! For years I've been hearing about how San Diego got the better of the deal because of Philip Rivers and Shaun Merriman. Rivers is probably the MVP of many fantasy leagues! Yippee!! And how is Merriman working out for you guys? Hahahahaha!!! Now, plesae genuflect and kiss Eli's ring as the door slams behind you.

PS A "more favorable playoff draw" in '07 included away games in Dallas and in -10 degree Lambeau. Who knew?

Posted by: rbelleisle | December 4, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Eli Manning ABSOLUTELY IS overrated. I guess for all eternity people will continue to judge INDIVIDUAL players based on TEAM accomplishments-- something that is completely irrational. Mark Rypien, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer have Super Bowl rings too; does anyone think they were standouts? Do you think the other 52 players on the Giants had anything to do with Eli having a ring?

Posted by: AWeiss3 | December 4, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Eli Manning ABSOLUTELY IS overrated. I guess for all eternity people will continue to judge INDIVIDUAL players based on TEAM accomplishments-- something that is completely irrational. Mark Rypien, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer have Super Bowl rings too; does anyone think they were standouts? Do you think the other 52 players on the Giants had anything to do with Eli having a ring?

Posted by: AWeiss3 | December 4, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Well, I look at it this way:

Brad Johnson also has a Super Bowl ring, nobody even knows who I'm talking about, but he was a better QB than Eli Manning.

Trent Dilfer also has a Super Bowl ring, but I'd say he is actually a tiny bit worse than Eli.

I kinda like Eli, though. I mean, at least he's not Big-Headed about his overratedness. I guess it's hard to get big-headed when your older brother is Peyton Manning.

Eli does something that a lot of QBs don't ever do... Throw the ball up in the air and pray. I've seen him throw a TD to Plaxico Burress and I swear his eyes were closed as he released about a 40 yard bomb.

Let it fly, people! The guy on the other end is getting paid, too.

Posted by: Thinker_ | December 5, 2010 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Whether you want to accept it or not; Eli is one of the best quarter backs in the league today. Plain and simple!

Posted by: verjj | December 4, 2010 3:52 PM |

NO, he is not. That was basically my point. The rest of your argument, unfortunately, I can find no fault with, other than the frequent omitted words and grammatical mistakes.

Giants by 21. And I am still a Skins fan. I think.

Posted by: Thinker_ | December 5, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Least we forget that the Giants of '07 went and won the Superbowl mainly because of the defensive line that carried them to all those wins. I envied as a Redskin fan the Giants pass rush. That pass rush destroyed the best offensive line in football and prevented the Patriots from having the only 19-0 (counting playoffs) record. When have the Redskins EVER had that? The Redskins clearly were not better than the Giants in '07. When will my stupid team learn that a dominant offensive 1st and defensive 2nd line with a decent quarterback is what will have you playing important games in January? When the Redskins last won a Superbowl ('91) only the Steelers and 49ers were the only teams with more Superbowls. Since then the Cowboys have passed us, the Giants and Patriots have caught up to us (3)and don't be surprised if the Lions (2-9) win a Superbowl before the Redskins do. Counting on Mike Shanahan to build a GREAT offensive line in the next couple of years. Hail!!

Posted by: bosshog69 | December 5, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

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