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Posted at 2:12 PM ET, 01/17/2011

Alex Ovechkin: starting 2011-12 in Russia would be 'pretty cool'

By Katie Carrera

Over the weekend, ESPN's Pierre LeBrun reported that the Capitals are one of six NHL teams considering invitations from the league to start the 2011-12 season overseas. The process is still in the preliminary stages and one of the possible options, LeBrun wrote, would be the Capitals playing in Moscow.

Not that it should come as much of a surprise, Alex Ovechkin said he would be pleased if Washington did get a chance to play in Russia. The Capitals have declined to comment on the possibility of playing in Europe next fall.

"If it happens it's going to be pretty cool," Ovechkin said. "I'll be pretty happy and Russian guys are going to be happy. American guys, who have never been in Russia, it is going to be a great experience for them and they're going to see how beautiful Russia is."

By Katie Carrera  | January 17, 2011; 2:12 PM ET
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Comments

Would be a great place to debut the Ovetrick

Posted by: ajian1 | January 17, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"Betcha he'd show up for that morning skate"

-Soaring Caps

Posted by: GFisher1 | January 17, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

@Fisher...

LOL...I was just thinking that... :)

Actually, my comment would be...

"Pretty Cool" because of the great Vodka that he can consume...

Posted by: SoaringCaps | January 17, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

LMAO Gfisher! C'mon soaringcaps you had to laugh at that one!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 17, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

you just made a statement implying that Ulf Dahlen was a smaller NHL player.

care to revise that? He was 6ft 2 and over 200 lbs. You don't consider that to be good sized?

Posted by: cstanton1

No, I stand by my statement. I made the statement that Dahlen was not a big NHL player.

Boyd Gordon is 6ft 200 lbs. So he is thicker than Dahlen. So Dahlen and Gordon will fall into the same general size category, with Dahlen being taller, thinner and lengthier with BGordon being thicker.

IMO, neither of them were/are "big" players. They were/are average size at best.

Do you care to revisit that?

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

someone may have posted this already in a previous thread but I found it to be entertaining and worth sharing:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/picking-a-stanley-cup-matchup/article1873023/singlepage/#articlecontent

It's just conjecture from a bunch of Toronto media about midseason predictions for a Stanley Cup matchup, but Washington is mentioned repeatedly.

Posted by: PSD1 | January 17, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

@Cstanton & Sgm

I thought you 2 made a new years resolution to get along? She's it's not even Feb yet! :)

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 17, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

sheesh that is

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 17, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Boyd G = Dave S

Please bruce, one or the other...not both.

Posted by: SoaringCaps | January 17, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Pokerface...fisher's comment was awesome!

Posted by: SoaringCaps | January 17, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

PSD1, the Caps were mentioned repeatedly primarily in a negative way.

Posted by: zmega | January 17, 2011 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey, what's up with Semin? How can a knee to thigh from Steckel result in such a long term absence? Any thoughts about this?

The injuries are really mounting up. Our lineup doesn't scare any top and not so top teams anymore.

Posted by: analyzerman | January 17, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

@analyzerman

On what's up with Semin. The hip to thigh check on him was only the latest injury that he's had this season. Back in late Nov, there was the report of a lingering injury that caused him to miss practice (but no games). He was also one of the flu victims not missing a game but in retrospect, maybe missing the next game would have been a better idea. Soon after the flu was a "lower body" injury that occurred during the infamous Ranger game where the Caps were shelled. He missed 3 games with that one and should probably have missed more given that he played on a day where he was considered "doubtful" only the day before.

Don't think it was Steckel who knocked him out. (Only to Crosby and to our "Fehr")

Posted by: CapsFan75 | January 17, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone read the Mike Wise article in the Post? His point seems to be that we shouldn't be worried about Ovi and the other stars of the team not scoring, since the secondary scoring was enough yesterday.

Kinda reminds me of the old saying about being better to remain silent and have people think you are stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Posted by: zmega | January 17, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

You'll know Syd is feeling better when he realizes the Steckel hit eeeeeeerrrrrr (collision) was an accident.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 17, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

mentioned repeatedly to not make the finals.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | January 17, 2011 3:29 PM | Report abuse

You know it's a crazy season when at the midway point in the season the NJ Devils are the worst team in hockey BY FAR! They have played 44 games as Edmonton has and Edmonton has 8 more points than NJ! EIGHT! Who saw that coming? If you did you're a liar!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 17, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

True that most Toronto media picked the Caps not to make the finals, but one of them did, so at least you get different points of view.

Once in a while it's healthy to read something that says other teams are good too.

I personlly thought there was a heavy Canada bias, manifesting itself in multiple picks for Vancouver to lead the West. Vancouver is looking strong but, as one journalist pointed out, their performance may be inflated by a weaker division (which you could say was the case with the Caps last year as well).

Posted by: PSD1 | January 17, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Pokerface, I don't think Lou L. saw it coming, and he's a pretty smart guy. Lots of surprises this year. Atlanta has cooled off a bit, but they are still doing a lot better than I expected after losing Kovy. I expected Tampa to be a lot better this year, but you have to give Yzerman a lot of credit for the quick progress they have made. Are the Caps the second biggest disappointment, after the Devils? Kings fans have to be disappointed too.

Posted by: zmega | January 17, 2011 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Devils won again today over the Isles (not saying much). Every year it seems somebody squeaks into the playoffs as the Flyers did last year... could you imagine the Devils turning it around and rattling off a 10 game winning streak to get folks looking over their shoulders?

Posted by: gonchpup | January 17, 2011 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Anyone hear anything about Crosby and when he'll be back?

Posted by: capscoach | January 17, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Unlike BB, Lemaire knows how to kick people in the rear and run a club on ice.
The Devils will be a factor. I want them to go away.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | January 17, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

@analyzerman

Steckel's a brut. He put Fehr out for 4 weeks, Semin for at least two. He should hit Backstrom, Haynesworth, and Knuble, too.

Posted by: festus75 | January 17, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

No, I stand by my statement. I made the statement that Dahlen was not a big NHL player.

Boyd Gordon is 6ft 200 lbs. So he is thicker than Dahlen. So Dahlen and Gordon will fall into the same general size category, with Dahlen being taller, thinner and lengthier with BGordon being thicker.

IMO, neither of them were/are "big" players. They were/are average size at best.

Do you care to revisit that?

Posted by: sgm3 |

lol, i'll let others weigh in on this...

But you're wrong as usual. In my humble opinion of course. Time to backpedal buddy. You implied that Dahlen was an effective forechecker without having size. And that's simply not true. He was a good sized NHL player. You don't have to be 6f4 to have good nhl size. I'd consider Dahlen's size (6ft2 200+ lbs) to be good NHL size particularly if you look at the fact he played 10-15 yrs ago.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin should change his number to #92.

Posted by: festus75 | January 17, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Are the Caps the second biggest disappointment, after the Devils? Kings fans have to be disappointed too.

Posted by: zmega

No. San Jose has been a pretty big disappointment this year so far. L.A. as you said. Buffalo has been very disappointing after winning their division last year. Ottawa after being a 5 seed last year. Calgary has been disappointing as at least their fans expected more out of them. Chicago has also been disappointing.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Yea, Torts just got lucky. Just like Kolzig and the boys didn't earn their way into the finals. We should be the last fan base talking about "playoff luck", since we know how hard it is to put a team away (Pens, TWICE)

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | January 17, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

sgm,

Gotta agree with cstanton, players are bigger on average nowadays.

Posted by: Steve_R | January 17, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Chicago isn't having a disappointing season. I predicted that they won't even make the playoffs and I stand by that prediction. You can't trade away 1/2 your team, which also happens to be the heart & soul of your team and still have lofty expectations.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 17, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I agree w/sgm3 that there are quite a few teams having more disappointing years than the Caps. In fact, we have lots to be thankful for, like....at least we're not the 'Canes!!

Posted by: vermontcaps | January 17, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

players are bigger on average nowadays.

Posted by: Steve_R | January 17, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

If Scott Stevens was playing today, the word "big" would only be used to describe his plays/hits/fights/presence/leadership/ and heart...not his physical stature

Posted by: vermontcaps | January 17, 2011 4:51 PM | Report abuse

But you're wrong as usual. In my humble opinion of course. Time to backpedal buddy. You implied that Dahlen was an effective forechecker without having size. And that's simply not true. He was a good sized NHL player. You don't have to be 6f4 to have good nhl size. I'd consider Dahlen's size (6ft2 200+ lbs) to be good NHL size particularly if you look at the fact he played 10-15 yrs ago.

Posted by: cstanton1 |

I only spoke about Dahlen and his cycling, I did not speak of or imply about any other aspect of his game. The conversation was specifically about cycling the puck. All I said was that it does not take a big guy to be good at cycling the puck and I used Dahlen as an example(as well as using the Sedins as an example). Dahlen wasn't small, but he was by no means big. My point was so unbelievable minor, and 100% correct. You even came and said my point was correct.

Then I came on to point out that BGordon is the exact same weight and two inches shorter. Thus, he is thicker(even you can realize this).

As for playing in a different age, when Dahlen played for the Caps around the year 2000. The guys back then were just as big as they are now. You have to go back 20 years to get the guys who were smaller.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Chicago isn't having a disappointing season. I predicted that they won't even make the playoffs and I stand by that prediction
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totally agree. I felt the same way. I felt they had a great foundation of character and understanding of what they needed to do in order to be competitive. Just didn't think they'd have the horses this season to get to that point again

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

pls don't ever compare Gordo and Dahlen again.

You obviously never watched Dahlen play if you think Gordo and him have the same attributes in being able to hold onto the puck under duress along the boards.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Chicago isn't having a disappointing season. I predicted that they won't even make the playoffs and I stand by that prediction. You can't trade away 1/2 your team, which also happens to be the heart & soul of your team and still have lofty expectations.

Posted by: pokerface1208

All true, but people in Chicago and thier fans think they are having a disappointing season so far.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I think you judge "disappointingness" by comparing a team's reasonable expectations going into the season to where they are today. Chicago is doing pretty well, for example, considering their salary dump. Did anyone reasonably expect Carolina to be doing much better than they are now? Judging the Caps, I think you have to take into account how well they played in the first quarter of the season when Semin was carrying the team, compared to the second quarter inconsistency/slump. So the trend is definitely downward for the Caps.

From a positive perspective, Detroit surprises me because they keep winning notwithstanding the age of their core players. Tampa and Atlanta as I mentioned before are over-performing IMO. Dallas fans have to be happy, considering the ownership issues. Flyers and Bruins fans should be happy their teams have carried over last year's playoff success.

Posted by: zmega | January 17, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Question:

Would you guys rather be "cup competitive" for 10 years and never win the cup.

or

Put a lot of your eggs in one basket (i.e. the blackhawks) and at least win one cup before the team get dismantled.

Posted by: natresgroup | January 17, 2011 5:16 PM | Report abuse

pls don't ever compare Gordo and Dahlen again.
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can't really think of anything comparable between those two, Dahlen wasn't as tough as his fellow Swedes Sandstrom or Holmstrom but he was a pretty tough winger who had a really unique game, especially for a Euro.

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

pls don't ever compare Gordo and Dahlen again.

You obviously never watched Dahlen play if you think Gordo and him have the same attributes in being able to hold onto the puck under duress along the boards.

Posted by: cstanton1 |

I was ONLY comparing their physical size. That is all. Everything else is irrelevant in that comparison.

You are completely unable to analyze a specific attribute without going off on irrelevant diatribes about something you randomly want to argue about. The only comparison was their physical size, that is it.

Dahlen's physical size was/is very similar to BGordon's. Dahlen was 6'2" 195 lbs., BGordon is 6'0" 200lbs. That was the entire point I was making. BGordon is about the same size as Dahlen when Dahlne was playing(a little shorter, but also a little thicker)

Any other person on earth who is in good shape and is around 6'1" 197.5 lbs would also qualify as being about the same size.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 5:21 PM | Report abuse

And Dahlen actually evolved that part of his game. When he played for the Rangers, he was pretty weak along the boards and was considered a finesse skill forward. His game evolved into that of a grinding forward. Head and shoulders above Gordo.

Gordo is nothing like Dahlen. Esp not in terms of strength, I don't care how "thick" sgm thinks he is. The biggest weakness in Gordo's game has always been his lack of strength. He gets pushed off the puck easily, he gets knocked down easily. And he's fragile. Dahlen was a beast and in many ways resembled Viktor Kozlov (when Koz was motivated to cycle the puck)

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Would you guys rather be "cup competitive" for 10 years and never win the cup.
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depends on what you mean by "cup competitive"... to me that means winning at least two rounds in the playoffs.

when was the last time this team made it that far?? If you can win two rounds in the playoffs year after year for a decade, the odds are you will eventually win a Cup or two along the way.

The problem is GMGM thinks he already has a team capable of doing that when all the evidence shows he clearly does not.

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2011 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Any other person on earth who is in good shape and is around 6'1" 197.5 lbs would also qualify as being about the same size.

Posted by: sgm3

there's so much more to it than that. The point is, Dahlen was much STRONGER than Gordo. That's what made Dahlen an infinitely more effective cycler than is BG. For all intents and purposes, Gordo plays the game like he's about 5ft8.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Question:

Would you guys rather be "cup competitive" for 10 years and never win the cup.

or

Put a lot of your eggs in one basket (i.e. the blackhawks) and at least win one cup before the team get dismantled.

Posted by: natresgroup |


considering the Hawks have good prospects still in their system, i don't think they've exactly mortgaged the next 10 yrs of their future to win the Cup.

So yes, I'll take the Hawks plan over the Caps plan.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Would you guys rather be "cup competitive" for 10 years and never win the cup.

or

Put a lot of your eggs in one basket (i.e. the blackhawks) and at least win one cup before the team get dismantled.

Posted by: natresgroup | January 17, 2011 5:16 PM

or - every 5 yrs a firesale and rebuild - what's a CuP?
who didn't enjoy watching this team go from bottom 5 to top 5 from 05/06 to 09/10?
seeing those kids grow up and peak was awesome
it's all downhill from here :)

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | January 17, 2011 5:43 PM | Report abuse

. Our defensive numbers improving are also misleading. The only reason they're better is because Theo is finally off the team & the 2 kids have been tremendous.

______________________________________


lol...

Posted by: richmondphil2 | January 17, 2011 5:47 PM | Report abuse

"who didn't enjoy watching this team go from bottom 5 to top 5 from 05/06 to 09/10?"

me. I thought it was all smoke and mirrors.

I thought it was pure mismanagement that caused them to fall that far. And by virtue of some high picks and a few other factors, they propelled themselves to being a very talented team that lacked a lot of basic components that you need in north american hockey.


I never considered the "rise" of the Caps to be progressively forward moving. I figured they'd win some games and then fall back. Although I never thought they'd finish 1st in the entire league. But I didn't really enjoy their style of play aside from a few games so for me their brief meteoric rise wasn't anything to cream my thighs over.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: richmondphil2 | January 17, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

so for me their brief meteoric rise wasn't anything to cream my thighs over.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 5:49 PM

hahaha - that's funny (serious funny, not sarcastic funny)

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | January 17, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

The NHL has had a hard salary cap for 5 years now and the NFL has had it for about a decade and a half. The NE Pats have been the model franchise for a decade.

If the Caps can become like the Pats then I'm all for being "cup competitive" instead of putting all your eggs in one basket and going for it.

But the jury is still out on that one.

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2011 5:57 PM | Report abuse

considering the Hawks have good prospects still in their system, i don't think they've exactly mortgaged the next 10 yrs of their future to win the Cup.
*cstanton*
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True but they won't be signing any FA's for the next 10yrs be it that they're in salary cap he!!.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 17, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

on a sidenote, if you want to trace back to the very first move that McPhee made that spoke volumes about his own personal philosophies on what it took to win in this league (and he was dead wrong), it was the free agent signing of Dimitri Mironov.

that was an awful move from the get-go because it didn't address this team's weaknesses on defense, nor did it address the reason they lost to the Wings.

Dimitri Mironov was a defensive liability, a soft player, and a guy who was only decent offensively, not great.

McPhee trumpeted that signing as the one that would put the Caps back over the top. It was a total bust and didn't address the impending retirement of Mark Tinordi.

McPhee's been screwing this pooch for a long while. And decisions like that is what eventually contributed to the fall of the Caps. Even moreso than the Jagr move.

the biggest myth around the Caps is that the Jagr trade caused the team to fall apart. It didn't. That team had a lot of holes in it which were independent of the Jagr trade. But McPhee was able to (subtlely) blame Ted for the Jagr trade and the Caps collapse. And it was made to look like he pulled this franchise out of the dumps when the fact is he was the architect behind the mess to begin with. Ted's pushing for the Jagr trade was a very small part of the collapse.

Had we not traded for Jagr, we still would've had Kris Beech, Ross Lupaschuk, and Mike Sivek. Remember those titans? I sure don't.

Remember the Cassidy hiring? Remember the Ron Wilson years at the end? All brutal decisions by McPhee himself. From the draft picks, to some of the trades, to his coaching hire of BC or keeping Wilson around too long.

GM was allowed to rebuild the same franchise that he tore down. And he did it well to an extent only. He's not gettin us past the next step.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Ted's on this new kick now it seems of just qualifying for the playoffs. I wonder when a team seaded 5-8 (in the 1st round of course) last won the Cup. My guess is that it's been a while. I know there have been several runner ups, but last I checked the goal isn't to be a runner up.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | January 17, 2011 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Are the Caps the second biggest disappointment, after the Devils? Kings fans have to be disappointed too.

Posted by: zmega

No. San Jose has been a pretty big disappointment this year so far. L.A. as you said. Buffalo has been very disappointing after winning their division last year. Ottawa after being a 5 seed last year. Calgary has been disappointing as at least their fans expected more out of them. Chicago has also been disappointing.

Posted by: sgm3 |

The separation from 14th to 8th in the West is only 7 points. San Jose is the only time disappointing in the West.

The Kings are one of the best defensive teams in the league. Their problem, as all Kings fan knew, was their lack of offense. There is no disappointment from Kings fan.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | January 17, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

@pokerface

Look at the players we have to sign coming up...we are kind of in the same kind of hell. If they dont sign Semin then we are ok, but if he is signed we are in hell. Laich, Semin, Knuble, Bradley, Hendricks, Alzner, Varly all due contracts this offseason. Green and Carlson due contracts after next season. Good luck managing that. Its basically pick Laich or Knuble, Bradley or Hendricks, Semin or two other players. Give Carslon his money and let Green go. You see, everything isnt as rosey as people think it is. The Caps have done a good job until now but its not going to be pretty the next couple of seasons, especially if they try to sign all these guys.

Posted by: ThePat | January 17, 2011 6:07 PM | Report abuse

The separation from 14th to 8th in the West is only 7 points. San Jose is the only time disappointing in the West.

The Kings are one of the best defensive teams in the league. Their problem, as all Kings fan knew, was their lack of offense. There is no disappointment from Kings fan.

Posted by: richmondphil2

If we are only considering team that are realistically out of playoff position then only the Devils(clearly), Sabres, and maybe the Flames(depending on what you expectations are of them) are disappointing.

IMO, and from what I read and who I have spoken to, the Sharks and Kings have been disappointing this year(only so far, things can clearly change).

Both expected them to be challenging each other for first place in their division, not to be tied for last.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I've watched almost every single Kings game this year, I am immersed in Kings discussions almost as much as Caps discussion.

The only disappointment is in Lombardi not being able to address the issue we all knew about, that being some top-6 offense.

Devils is the obvious disappointment in the East, but I had Buffalo and Ottawa out of the playoffs anyway. As for the Flames, they are doing better than I expected. They are still in the running for a bottom seeding, and I expected them to nose-dive.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | January 17, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

True but they won't be signing any FA's for the next 10yrs be it that they're in salary cap he!!.

Posted by: pokerface1208

well, thats where their drafting will help them survive those times. And I wouldn't be surprised if they dabble in the FA market with some minor free agents who will provide good bang for the buck.

the irony is, they traded away more quality grit in one offseason (Aliu, Eager, Ladd, Buff, Burish, Fraser, Versteeg) than the Caps have stockpiled in a decade. And they STILL are a grittier team than are the Caps.

yikes. And they still have a Kyle Beach in their system. That's one more power forward prospect than we have in our system.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Laich, Semin, Knuble, Bradley, Hendricks, Alzner, Varly all due contracts this offseason. Green and Carlson due contracts after next season. Good luck managing that. Its basically pick Laich or Knuble, Bradley or Hendricks, Semin or two other players. Give Carslon his money and let Green go. You see, everything isnt as rosey as people think it is. The Caps have done a good job until now but its not going to be pretty the next couple of seasons, especially if they try to sign all these guys.

Posted by: ThePat |

I don't think so. None of those guys are going to see a substantial raise in their salary this year, except Hendricks and maybe Laich. Carlson may see a substantial raise, depending on how his play goes, but most of these guy's contracts will stay the same, or go up in relation to the salary cap.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | January 17, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

And if Knuble is re-signed (And I don't think he well..though there is still half the season and playoffs to play), it will be substantially smaller than his 2.2 he makes now.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | January 17, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

If we dont bring back Semin it is not an issue. But if we do Laich is going to get a bump of around $1M. Hendricks will get a bump of around $500K. Carlson is going to make $3.5M in his next contract. Green probably will get a slight bump. So just right there alone you are looking at around $5M increase on total $$$'s. Varly will also get an increase of around $1M probably. So total over the next two years an increase in roughly $6M. That basically all but guarantees Semin won't be brought back, but if they attempt to we are in the same hell other teams unless the cap goes up substantially.

Posted by: ThePat | January 17, 2011 6:28 PM | Report abuse

At 6’3” and 200 pounds, Dahlen is no small guy in the corner
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i did have a feeling he was bigger than listed.

so sgm, still want to compare Dahlen and Gordo's "size"?

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Time for Tom to get out his spreadsheets.

Posted by: zmega | January 17, 2011 6:33 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil2, ThePat, pokerface1208

On our impending Free agents:

If we resign Knuble, it will be a 1 year deal at 1M.

Hendricks will probably get a slight raise but I doubt if they'll sign him for over $1M.

If we resign Semin, it will be for his current salary.

Laich, I expect a raise but no more than $3 M and that's at the outside.

Varly, I presume a deal similar to Neuvy.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | January 17, 2011 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I think you may be slightly over-valuing their pay raises. The only thing that may get in the way is Poti's extension.

Posted by: richmondphil2 | January 17, 2011 6:34 PM | Report abuse

At 6’3” and 200 pounds, Dahlen is no small guy in the corner
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i did have a feeling he was bigger than listed.

so sgm, still want to compare Dahlen and Gordo's "size"?

Posted by: cstanton1

So yes, like I said Dahlen is taller and BGordon is thicker. The fact that he is 6'3" 200 lbs. instead of 6'2" 200 lbs.(if that is true, I also saw him listed as 6'2" 195 lbs.) means he is a little thinner than you first thought.

I have said that Dahlen wasn't small, as that line says that Dahlen wasn't a small guy in the corner, but he isn't big either. Dahlen is similarly sized to BGordon, except a little taller and a little thinner.

It is what it is, whatever.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 6:41 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil2

That may be true. I was going "worst case" here so we could mentally calculate whether it was possible to keep these people.

Poti's extension is actually for less money than his current deal. I had earlier calculated that the sum of the salaries of Poti/Neuvy will actually be less during the next two years than it is this year. So we gain about 400K net.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | January 17, 2011 6:58 PM | Report abuse

so a 6ft3 guy in your book is about the same size as a Boyd Gordon. cool

Which means maybe dave steckel and ulf dahlen are also about the same size. Steckel's got the height, but not the weight.

Which means really, Boyd Gordon and Dave Steckel are about the same size too.

I learn a lot from coming here.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 7:02 PM | Report abuse

@Cstanton

It took me several years, but I eventually realized that what you're preaching about GMGM is the absolute truth. I want to like our GM and coach, but the truth is there to see now. Boy, that Jagr trade really only cost us money.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | January 17, 2011 7:05 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil2

I dont think I am overestimating their pay raises at all. Personally I'd like to see some new blood in here so I'd hope the players overvalue their own value and walk to another team. Those that are UFA's that is.

Posted by: ThePat | January 17, 2011 7:06 PM | Report abuse

That may be true. I was going "worst case" here so we could mentally calculate whether it was possible to keep these people.
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NHL NOTEBOOK
Next TV deal could be a rich one
Sunday, December 26, 2010 02:59 AM
BY AARON PORTZLINE

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Bettman also has promised owners a dramatic increase on the $75 million ($2.5 million per team) the league draws annually from its current deal. Some reports estimate the next U.S. TV deal could be three or four times bigger.
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So if it's 4 times bigger, it will be $7.5M more for each team. Don't know how much of that will actually be used to increase the cap but it will help.

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2011 7:10 PM | Report abuse

@joek

The cap will increase by a very small percent bc of that. Many owners arent happy with the way the cap has constantly increased.

Posted by: ThePat | January 17, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Boy, that Jagr trade really only cost us money.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach

ted took a bullet for George. And unlike other sports teams in this town, the Washington media lacks the analytical ability to dissect the Caps' past and present.

I guess the silver lining here is that the Caps are not in bad shape and it won't take a full rebuild to get this team to the next level. It'll just take some subtle moves that elude our dearly beloved GM.

Posted by: cstanton1 | January 17, 2011 7:25 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat,

yeah but you have to remember who's in charge of the NHLPA now... Donald F. Fehr

And unlike Tom Hagan, he IS a wartime consigliere.

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2011 7:27 PM | Report abuse

@joek

I understand. Thats why it will go up a little and sadly we might see another lockout after next season when the CBA ends. I think Fehr will make that concession for getting more at the table for the next CBA. Just my opinion.

Posted by: ThePat | January 17, 2011 7:31 PM | Report abuse

@hunterforcoach
If you've got fond memories of Krygier, I'll forget all my negative ones...that's love!

@cstanton
I remember the disbelief and excitement I felt when I heard the news we got Jagr. Talk about making a statement that the Pollin years were nothing but an afterthought! It was like the Sox getting Jeter and Rivera from the Yankees, and it was great to think that ownership went out and got one of the greatest players of the day to play for our team. It was a proud moment.

Unfortunately, it didn't pan out and everything else you said about GMGM and Ted I agree with...the supporting cast, the coaching carousel, and the lack of accountability.

Posted by: vermontcaps | January 17, 2011 8:22 PM | Report abuse

My gut is telling me that Semin will get re-signed for at least one more year for about 7 Mil. That's just how this organization seems to operate. They see a lot of potential in that guy and are willing to pay him for it. I can honestly say, if he gets traded, I'll be very (pleasantly) surprised.

For the record though, I hope they do trade him.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | January 17, 2011 8:54 PM | Report abuse

so a 6ft3 guy in your book is about the same size as a Boyd Gordon. cool

Which means maybe dave steckel and ulf dahlen are also about the same size. Steckel's got the height, but not the weight.

Which means really, Boyd Gordon and Dave Steckel are about the same size too.

I learn a lot from coming here.

Posted by: cstanton1

You are not too bright are you.

Hypothetical, lets says if the value of something is within 5% of another things, then the value of both of those would be NEAR each other.

So if A has a value of 100 and B has a value of 105, A and B would be NEAR each other as B would only be 5% more than A.

Then if C is 110, C would be near B, which is 105, as C would be less than 10% more than B.

However, even though A is near B and B is near C, A is NOT near C as C(110) would be %10 greater than A(100).

Now to the players:

BGordon is listed as 72 inches tall.
Dahlen is listed as either 74 or 75 inches tall.
Steckel is listed as 77 inches tall.

Dahlen is either 2.7% or 4.1% taller than BGordon
Steckel is 7% taller than BGordon

Weight:

BGordon is listed at 200 lbs.
Dahlen is listed at 195 or 200 lbs.
Steckel is listed at 215 lbs.

Dahlen is either -2.5% heavy(so lighter) or 0% heavier than BGordon

Steckel is 7.5% heavier than BGordon.

So Dahlen is 2.7% taller than BGordon and is 2.5% lighter than BGordon.

Steckel is 7% taller than BGordon AND 7.5% heavier than BGordon.

Hence why BGordon and Dahlen have very similar sizes, but why BGordon and Stecekl are not similar.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 8:54 PM | Report abuse

"Then if C is 110, C would be near B, which is 105, as C would be less than 10% more than B."

That should read 5% not 10%.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Seriously @sgm3 did you really just waste your time providing stats on height and weight that you know @cstanton and everyone else would completely ignore??? Im glad your 5th grade Math skills still work though, go you.

Posted by: ThePat | January 17, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat

It only took 2 minutes to do. It definitely was a wasted two minutes though.

I also agree it is 5th grade math, but cstanton has displayed no ability to understand that level of math.

Posted by: sgm3 | January 17, 2011 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I have seen some weird $hit on these blogs but this is about the weirdest...

Charles Barkley was listed at 6'8 but everyone knew he wasn't even 6'5. But he played like a 7-footer. Dirk Nowitzki is a 7-footer but he plays like someone who's about 6'6 or smaller.

Personally I'd much rather have a guy who plays bigger than his size.

Posted by: joek443 | January 17, 2011 11:44 PM | Report abuse

@joek
@vermont

Yea, Plays bigger than his size: Scott Stevens. The loss of whom has left a dark cloud over this franchise.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | January 18, 2011 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Cstanton's take on the GMGM years is so piercing, that I can't think see how anyone could end up in the McPhee camp.

Thankfully a competent GM could mop up this mess fairly quickly. I agree. The sheer number of first round picks have left us with talent.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | January 18, 2011 1:44 AM | Report abuse

sgm,

I think your sarcasm alarm is broken...

Posted by: Steve_R | January 18, 2011 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how this blog would read if McPhee hadn't thrown Stanton's resume in th etrashand hired him as his Chief Amateur Scout?

Posted by: boomer44 | January 18, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

hello test

Posted by: LloydChristmas | January 18, 2011 7:48 PM | Report abuse

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