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Alexander Semin not injured in car accident

Capitals forward Alexander Semin was not injured when another car rear-ended his Mercedes Benz in an accident in his hometown of Krasnoyarsk, Russia. The Capitals are looking into the minor accident.

According to a Moscow News report, a Lada Zhiguli collided with Semin's car while he was waiting at a "traffic queue."

"I didn't even realise what had happened," he said. "I was just sitting in my car and suddenly -- crash!"

Also last night, the Edmonton Journal citing an NHL source reported that the Capitals are in discussions to send forward Tomas Fleischmann to either the Edmonton Oilers for defenseman Sheldon Souray or to the Vancouver Canucks for defenseman Kevin Bieksa.

Last week, an NHL source said free agent center Eric Belanger had agreed to a deal in principle with the Capitals but that the signing was on hold until the team completed a trade. The Capitals had no comment regarding Fleischmann's or Belanger's situations.

By Katie Carrera  |  August 20, 2010; 10:10 AM ET
 
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Glad Sasha is ok, but bummer about his Merc. And if a deal involving Flash for a strong, gritty, and effective blueliner is in the works, I say hoorah!

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS1 | August 20, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

dont know about souray...

Posted by: cotelloer | August 20, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

hmmm, let the floodgates of comments regarding Souray start.

My preference:
sign UFA W.Mitchell
if you can't do that...
trade Flash for Bieska...


-trading Flash for Souray seems a bit weird since he was on waivers and no one picked him up for free!

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Flash for Bieksa: Great
Flash for Souray: Overpaying due to Souray's contract & creating cap problems

Posted by: thomas20 | August 20, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I'd be fine with either. Ideally, we get Mitchell *and* Souray (or Bieksa).

Glad Semin's okay. Kudos to Katie for getting the bottom line up front in the posting title - not injured.

Posted by: EricinReston | August 20, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Flash has definitely contributed the past couple years, but this is the type of move GMGM hasn't made enough. Chimera was a terrific trade last year and adding Souray or Bieksa to the mix would compound that addition of grit and toughness.

The Caps can afford to give up some finesse in order to import a mean streak. This could also free up Ovie to focus on being a playmaker with the puck if he isn't burdened with being the only one on the ice willing to set the tone with a crushing hit.

Scoring goals is fun, but winning by 2 goals vs 5 goals makes no difference at the end of the day. It is better to be well-rounded with the ability to push back if the twine is hard to dent in a given stretch or series.

Also, if one of these trades happen, does Mitchell remain in the picture as a FA signing?

Posted by: rhollebon | August 20, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Flash plus Erskine for Souray equals only adding $2M in salary. I dont see the Caps wanting to do that, but if thats who they looked at that would be the type of deal I'd bet. Edmonton sheds $2M in salary and brings in 2 guys with 1 year left on contracts, not a bad move for them.

And that seems to be lost in our discussion of trading or adding a Dmen. If we do obtain one, I'd have to think Erskine or Sloan is being traded or Sloan to Hershey. To me it makes no sense to carry 8 D-men when you could create the salary cap space.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

@rhollebon

I think both Mitchell and Bieksa/Souray can be done.

Posted by: EricinReston | August 20, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

not souray. would rather have bieksa in a trade. then sign mitchell.

Posted by: doughless | August 20, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I like Souray and actually wanted them to get him last year at the trade deadline, obviously that didn't happen. I would rather see Bieska as then they could still afford Mitchell and sign both. If they get Souray then Mitchell must be out unless they can dump say Chimera but I don't see that happening.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

mitchel and bieksa make our top 2 d lines legit.

Posted by: doughless | August 20, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

@doughless:
I would dare say that Mitchell and Bieksa would make our top 3 D lines legit

Green/Schultz
Mitchell/Bieksa
Poti/Carlson
Alzner - sits
Sloan - sits
(this assumes Erksine is traded out in the Bieksa trade)

in general, that's a pretty damn fine top 7... not many teams would be able to match that IMHO!

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Flash plus Erskine for Souray equals only adding $2M in salary. I dont see the Caps wanting to do that, but if thats who they looked at that would be the type of deal I'd bet. Edmonton sheds $2M in salary and brings in 2 guys with 1 year left on contracts, not a bad move for them.

And that seems to be lost in our discussion of trading or adding a Dmen. If we do obtain one, I'd have to think Erskine or Sloan is being traded or Sloan to Hershey. To me it makes no sense to carry 8 D-men when you could create the salary cap space.

Posted by: ThePat
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@ThePat:
givent that Souray was on freebie waivers, I think you'd see more coming back from Edmonton if the caps gave Flash and Erskine, with Erskine being the salary dump and Flash being the main player.

More like

To EDM
Flash
Erksine

To WAS:
Souray
pick(s)

@EricinReston:

not so sure about being about to do both Mitchell (UFA signing) and a trade for Bieksa or Souray

looking at capgeek, if Flash and Erskine were moved then we could afford Souray and have about .500 mil left over...

so adding Mitchell would mean another player would have to be jetisoned, which wouldn't be on D... and who else on O would it be?

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

@FrankM73

If they do pull off getting both of them, I think you might see Poti traded out in hopes of obtaining a 2C. If Alzner is on the team you cant make him the 7th D. You have to play him in the last year of his entry level contract to see what he can do over a season at this level. He has to get 60 games worth of action if he's healthy. Thats just my opinion and I am not high on him like most people are.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Frank:

why not

green/mitchell
schultz/bieksa

either way, acquiring these 2 guys takes D as a shortcoming off the table. even if the caps do not make a move for a 2nd line center, i fell much more comfortable if these moves can be made.

Posted by: doughless | August 20, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

While all of this is being debated....I highly highly doubt that we obtain 2 Dmen. I think we are going to be lucky to get one of them and my preference in that group is Willie Mitchell.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

@ThePat

Agreed about Alzner. I'd love if they could unload Poti, but the Caps seem to still be enamored with him for some reason so I'm not very hopeful of it happening (nor do I think there are other teams clamoring for his services). I suppose Alzner will get some games when Poti gets injured (as he seems rather prone to do).

Posted by: chombie13 | August 20, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I am more convinced than ever that the Caps will add 2 new D-men.

The 2 will be out of the following 4: Bieska, Souray, Mitchell, Regehr.

Any 2 of those will overnight make us absolutely unbeatable.

Given this scenario, money will dictate if there is room for Niemi, likely not.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | August 20, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

ThePat:

wish list. agree that we are lucky to get one of those guys.

Posted by: doughless | August 20, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

@FrankM73

You might be right, at least about Souray. I had Bieksa numbers in my head, and I think-think-that we could pull off Mitchell and Bieksa. With Souray, though, we probably need more salary dump.

Posted by: EricinReston | August 20, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

so adding Mitchell would mean another player would have to be jetisoned, which wouldn't be on D... and who else on O would it be?

Posted by: FrankM73


Would absolutely love to see Chimera and his rock hands traded away!

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

polit strat:

if we get 2 of the 4 you list, not sure we need Niemi. That said, I think at least one of our goalies is being overhyped.

Posted by: doughless | August 20, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

well according to Katie, Flash is rumored to possibily be a trade piece. We have prospects to sweeten a deal. Assuming that Bieksa is acquired in a trade, the Caps still have cap space to sign a FA (given what folks have been saying Mitchell may be asking).

Posted by: doughless | August 20, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

@ThePat:
I agree on Alzner, he needs to play his 60+

Not so sure Poti is going anywhere since we need D and leadership and trading him means you need to get a better more experienced one than him. Is Mitchell that? yes, but he's a UFA

Is Bieksa that? Not more experienced but argueably better

Is Souray that? *pop* the sound of a can of worms opening, LOL. Some would argue he is both. Some would argue he's a waste of space and a trade and a bum. I think he has the potential to be what we would need but at 5.4 for 2 full years... not so sure I'd target him first.

@doughless:
I was just throwing line combos out based on last season. I agree that Green/Mitchell might be better...

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I still wish we were hearing more about Regehr. He's exactly the type of big, mean, and SKILLED stay-at-home defenseman that we need. I really hope that we don't take Souray.

Posted by: ssweeney | August 20, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I think that the reason that this has taken so long is the Kaberle effect. Now that he is staying in Toronto that makes them a player as a team with excessive D looking to trade for O. I think BX is a player similar to Poti Not a physical D/D man as for Souray I think flash is too much to give he is past his prime and slow (would rather take a free look at B.Witt in camp tryout) I think that flash for Komisarek is the way to go. He is a legit #1 D/D man pairing who fell out of favor last season with the leafs (Shoulder injury)and as an added bonus is a right handed shot from the point.

Posted by: t-bone67 | August 20, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Regehr would be great, but would Calgary part with him?

Posted by: EricinReston | August 20, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

From ESPN Insider
The Washington Capitals are looking for some defense, which is why they've been linked to Willie Mitchell and Kevin Bieksa. But perhaps they had other options too -- maybe from the St. Louis Blues.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch's Jeremy Rutherford writes that Barret Jackman and Eric Brewer have been mentioned in trade rumors with the Capitals, and he thinks they've "probably been offered to the Caps in trade proposals." Of course, nothing worked out, but the notion that the Blues are willing to trade those two guys might mean they'll try to pull another deal later in the season.

While we knew the Blues were actively trying to move Brewer, it was unclear whether they wanted to move Jackman. If they did move Jackman, they would probably seek some offense in return. Also, the move would clear up some space for either Alex Pietrangelo or Ian Cole.

Posted by: CapsBaby | August 20, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Hypothetical #1:
OUT: Flash, Chimera, Erksine
IN: Bieksa, Mitchell
bonus cushion used!

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Mike Knuble ($2.800m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Mathieu Perreault ($0.716m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)
Matt Bradley ($1.000m) / Eric Belanger ($1.850m) / Eric Fehr ($2.200m)
Dave Steckel ($1.100m) / Boyd Gordon ($0.800m) / Andrew Gordon ($0.500m)
D.J. King ($0.637m)

DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / Willie Mitchell ($3.500m)
Jeff Schultz ($2.750m) / Kevin Bieksa ($3.750m)
Tom Poti ($3.500m) / John Carlson ($0.845m)
Tyler Sloan ($0.700m) / Karl Alzner ($1.675m)

GOALTENDERS
Semyon Varlamov ($0.821m) /Michal Neuvirth ($0.821m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,523,463; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $726,537

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

ESPN Insider again

We thought for sure Sheldon Souray's contract was immovable -- after all, he carries a $5.4 million cap hit for two more seasons. But according to the Edmonton Journal, the Washington Capitals are apparently interested in the defenseman.

The Caps are looking to add to their blueline and are also exploring a trade for Kevin Bieksa. And it appears they would send Tomas Fleischmann back in a deal. But the Souray rumor surprises us a bit.

Now, the Oilers have been trying to unload Souray for a while now. So perhaps the Journal's source is just trying to ramp up some interest in the blueliner. Or, perhaps, the Caps are willing to take on Souray's cap hit only if the Oilers are willing to give up other assets. But another reason this probably won't happen is that the Caps can't take on Souray's cap hit even if they trade Fleischmann.

Posted by: CapsBaby | August 20, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Witt was worthless when he left DC a few years back. He's not even worth the league minimum for a contender now. He might be useful on a team trying to rebuild but other than that, his career is over.

Posted by: fanohock1 | August 20, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Hypothetical #:
OUT: Flash, Erksine
IN: Souray
bonus cushion NOT used!

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Mike Knuble ($2.800m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Mathieu Perreault ($0.716m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)
Jason Chimera ($1.875m) / Eric Belanger ($1.850m) / Eric Fehr ($2.200m)
Dave Steckel ($1.100m) / Boyd Gordon ($0.800m) / Matt Bradley ($1.000m)
D.J. King ($0.637m)

DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / Sheldon Souray ($5.400m)
Tom Poti ($3.500m) / Jeff Schultz ($2.750m)
John Carlson ($0.845m) / Karl Alzner ($1.675m)
Tyler Sloan ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Semyon Varlamov ($0.821m) /Michal Neuvirth ($0.821m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,048,463; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $351,537

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

@FrankM

If those are our F's Id make a slight tweak and move Semin back to LW.

Ovi-Backs-Knubs
Semin-MP-Fehr
Laich-Belanger-A. Gordon
B.Gordon/King-Steckel-Bradley

That way our 3rd line is absolutely a beast of a forechecking line in my opinion. The top lines on other teams would hate to play against those guys.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

@FrankM73

If we could get both Mitchell and Bieksa we could have one of the best defensive cores in the NHL.. As long as everyone stays healthy...

Posted by: CapsBaby | August 20, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Hypothetical #3:
OUT: Flash, Chimera, Erksine, Steckel
IN: Souray, Mitchell
bonus cushion used!

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Mike Knuble ($2.800m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Mathieu Perreault ($0.716m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)
Matt Bradley ($1.000m) / Eric Belanger ($1.850m) / Eric Fehr ($2.200m)
D.J. King ($0.637m) / Boyd Gordon ($0.800m) / Andrew Gordon ($0.500m)
Steve Pinizzotto ($0.537m)

DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / Sheldon Souray ($5.400m)
Tom Poti ($3.500m) / Willie Mitchell ($3.000m)
John Carlson ($0.845m) / Karl Alzner ($1.675m)
Tyler Sloan ($0.700m) / Jeff Schultz ($2.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Semyon Varlamov ($0.821m) /Michal Neuvirth ($0.821m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,110,963; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $139,037

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

@ThePat:

I was generalizing the lines, this was more of an exercise to show what is realistically possible to add in combination of Souray, Mitchell, Bieksa...

personally, I'd be freaky, deaky, cheeky thrilled if Mitchell and Bieksa were added and Flash and Erksine were jetisoned!

Realistically, we are dealing with the undertaker and he don't make no "splashy" trades! He's subtle, under the radar!

Again, the above aren't line combo's! Just to show the salary for addition and subtraction of salary and players!

My preference: Hypo #1 w/Bieksa and Mitchell... that's a great balance up at forward and at Defense...

The key then becomes the goalies...

and no, Neimi isn't coming here people! lol

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Semin was hit from behind? Did the article mention him turning over the puck then being cited for a 2 minute penalty by the cops?

Posted by: Tex21 | August 20, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"While we knew the Blues were actively trying to move Brewer, it was unclear whether they wanted to move Jackman. If they did move Jackman, they would probably seek some offense in return. Also, the move would clear up some space for either Alex Pietrangelo or Ian Cole"

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I'd be wary of Brewer since he's a -59 in 4 seasons of the new NHL!

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

correction: Brewer is a -76 in 5 seasons of the NEW NHL... i'll pass!

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

correction: Brewer is a -76 in 5 seasons of the NEW NHL... i'll pass!

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The whole Semin/Mercedes/wreck thing made me visualize the Bourne Supremacy where the Russian dude in the Mercedes SUV chases Jason Bourne through Moscow before he comes to a sticky end. Glad it wasn't a high-speed accident!

Posted by: yosemite_sam | August 20, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

@Tex21

That was a good one!!

Posted by: CapsBaby | August 20, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

They should only trade Flash if they get a really good D-man...why trade him for Souray when they could have gotten Souray for free? Flash is a very good offensive player and should not just be given away to create cap space to get Souray.

Posted by: landocalrissian | August 20, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

You know I'm starting to think that GMGM is the coolest cat in the business. The only problem is it's causing serious health problems (namely blood pressure) with the fan base. GMGM holds all the cards. Or at least he plays like he does. There are teams chomping at the bit to get Flash and GMGM wants 1 little thing more (like a pick) or something and is holding the trade up due to this. So meanwhile the fan base is now all bald and GMGM will wait another week for the 1 last ingredient and then pull the trigger. I bet he's a b!tch to deal with from another GM's perspective!

For those of you who don't know me this post was 95% joke and 5% serious.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | August 20, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

let's not get greedy here on the defensive end. picking up just ONE of Souray/Bieksa/Mitchell would really help, and that might leave us more room to improve our center situation

i would be comfortable with our D looking something like the following if we could improve our play down the center:

Green/New Acquisition
Poti/Schultz
Carlson/Sloan
Alzner

...maybe that's a big IF

Posted by: mcintire_will | August 20, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

You know this blog has been so bogged down with BS these past several weeks (altho it has seemed to steer away some of the regular negative posters), I was wondering about something a lil more productive.

We have Carlson & Alzner coming up full time this yr so where does this leave us as far as defensive depth in the system? Without looking at the Bears site I don't know the I could name another Dman. So does anybody know anything about the remaining D we have in Hershey? What kind of player are they? ETA for them to start playing for the Caps etc.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | August 20, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

@pokerface

our best D prospect is Orlov who will be over in Russia. The two guys in Hershey that are younger that have talent are Pat McNeill and Zach Miskovic. I don't know about South Carolina for Dmen though. I like McNeill's game a lot. Other than that its older AHL players.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see this? And if this is an NHL event, why did the Pens get 30,000 tickets and the Caps only 20,000? More Crosby/Pens love from Bettman?

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10231/1081076-61.stm

Posted by: Thisistheyear | August 20, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

And the kid Dustin Stevenson from developmental camp will be in Hershey this year. Forgot about him.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

@Thisistheyear

hmm the simple answer to that is its a Pens home game even though the NHL handles the tickets. FYI in the past years visiting teams have barely gotten any tickets. Ted negotiated saying they wanted the 20,000 tickets and a WC in DC or they didnt want to play in this one. So people should stop complaining about the number of tickets and where their seats are if they are going. Be thankful you have the opportunity to get a ticket or enjoy the game from home. Too much complaining over dumb stuff involving the Winter Classic.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

OK, things are starting to make sense now ...

I was wondering why the rumored trade brought up by Belanger was taking so long to transpire. With Mitchell coming in for a visit this week, it appears that GMGM may be waiting for Mitchell to make a decision before pulling the trigger on a trade for a d-man, especially one that would consume a lot of cap space, as would any deal for Souray.

Considering Souray's high cap hit ($5.4M), the fact that EDM may be over the cap and would like to dump him, and that Souray has requested a trade, I hope GMGM can get more out of EDM than just Souray for Flash.

Posted by: braunt | August 20, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

McNeill will be the next one up IMO, I really like his game but he still needs a year or two of seasoning. Orlov is about three years away IMO. Miskovic I really don't know much about unfortunately.....but Pat is right, that is about it unless SC has some prospects we don't know about. If Finley ever makes it he will be a 3rd/4th line forward not a D.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

dustin's rawwww but at least he offers up the size, grit, and some skill package that makes him a potential hopeful. Which means we'll probably include him in a trade at some point. That's usually how it goes for any prospects on this team I actually find intriguing.

I'll take Souray or Bieksa for Flash. Both improve our team where its sorely needed and our Hershey boys can replace Flash. Also hoping against hope that Belanger doesn't get signed. We don't need him. I expect a better yr from Steck and we don't need more players clogging up the bottom 6 fwd spots since that's the only place in the lineup for AG, SP, and JB to crack in.

Posted by: cstanton1 | August 20, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

According to a Moscow News report, a Lada Zhiguli collided with Semin's car while he was waiting at a "traffic queue."

"I didn't even realise what had happened," he said. "I was just sitting in my car and suddenly -- crash!"
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poor baby, glad he's ok. And hope this doesn't affect his trade value.

Posted by: cstanton1 | August 20, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

There are multiple sources stating that Mitchell not only wants to stay in Vancouver but will hold off on his decision until Van says no. There's 2 problems from the Van side, they're not convinced of his health yet and they'd have to move Bieska in order to bring Michell back. So GMGM may want to go the St Louis route as far as dealing Flash for D if he wants it to happen anytime soon.

I agree with Cstanton in that getting just about any Dman in here for Flash will upgrade our d. However I don't agree at all in that Stecks will have a better yr. I think we've seen the best out of him already. I really like Belanger as a 3C and I think he'll do even better being with us a full yr. Stecks has NOTHING over Belanger other than size and he doesn't use it as well as Belanger uses his overall defensive game.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | August 20, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

@braunt:

Given that Souray passed through waivers, GMGM better get a pick or 2 from Edmonton if a trade for Flash goes down.

or, maybe something like Erskine for Souray!

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

It really does not make much sense for the Caps to trade Flash straight up for Souray simply because if they wanted to acquire Souray and get rid of Flash they could have claimed Souray off of waivers and dealt Flash to any team for anything(any pick or prospect) and came out ahead of where they would in a straight up Flash for Souray deal.

Posted by: sgm3 | August 20, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

1) Frank - we don't want to use the bonus cushion, you pay next year.
2) Souray is mighty expensive. Counting bonuses, Caps have 1.9 in space with full roster of 23 or 2.6 in space w/o MP.
3) Souray is owed $9M in actual salary over the next two years. Fitting him this year can work, next year is really tough then with keeping Semin and Laich.
3A) Only way I'd possibly see it if you moved Nylander, Poti and Erskine ($7.75 in salary, $9.6M in cap space) for Souray.
4) Then trade Flash for Bieksa.
5) Cap delta this year minus Flash, Poti and Ersk is 7.35 and you've added back about 9.
6) Still, I would only do that if it were coupled with Chimera moving for picks so that you can promote AGordon, which gives back $1.35M in space for the deadline.

Only problem in all this is that you have Souray's contract for next year. BUT, since as part of it you got Edm to eat Nylander's this year, if you have to eat Souray's next year it's not so bad. Still, I don't like it, not if you can get Willie Mitchell. Or, maybe they can get Souray on recall waivers, but would imagine some other (lower) team would get him first.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | August 20, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Sasha's accident sounds a lot like an accident I had about 24 years ago when I was in Baltimore driving to an O's game. A guy (in a brand new black car) hit me from behind at a traffic light.

Luckily, no one was hurt in that accident either, including my baby who was riding in a car seat in the back. (The guy who hit me had still not reported to his insurance company the fact he had purchased a new car prior to the accident.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | August 20, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Tom - why are you so adament about getting rid of Chimmer? I kinda liked the guy and thought he played well for us. Columbus fans were all saying he couldn't stay onsides and had hands of steel. That didn't appear to be the case when he was here as we had players who could match his speed and he scored some pretty nice goals while being here and adding some much needed grit and nastiness. I'd like to see him here for a whole yr and see what else this cat has to offer.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | August 20, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

@chombie13 & @thePat

I assume that Alzner will be one of the guys playing when our defense shapes up for the year. The others will be Schultz, Green, Carlson, and Poti.

I don't know what we'll get in the trade market although it sounds like both Sourey and Bieksa are in play. And even free agent possibilities in play.

Of our guys, Poti is comparatively expensive, is in his last contract year, and with his eye injury, may not be desirable for other teams to acquire in a trade.

Capwise, we know Souray is uber expensive; i.e. 5.5 million per year. I figure if we trade Flash for him, we'd be paying 3 million more in total salary than otherwise. (But would loaning Nylander to another team somewhere take care of us going over Cap?)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | August 20, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

I would take Souray, but the Oilers need to eat some of his contract.

Posted by: rockinthered1 | August 20, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3

Good point on the Flash for Souray deal. I assume any deal would have to be more complicated than that. Maybe picks.

It sounds like Edmonton could not take Nylander's cap hit since they're sound like they're over the cap limit as well.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | August 20, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75

Nylanders cap hit is off the book. His NMC is gone, we put him on waivers. He will be stashed somewhere, he is not a concern.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I would take Souray, but the Oilers need to eat some of his contract.

Posted by: rockinthered1 | August 20, 2010 12:36 PM

that is not allowed
edm would have to take an additional contract player from the caps

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | August 20, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

IF Souray came to the Caps like I said before, Flash and Erskine would go the other way. That is the only way that deal would work. I honestly dont see GMGM even talking to them about him because his contract goes for two years and he's been hurt way too much in the last 4 years.

Regehr, Bieksa, Mitchell and Jackman are the 4 guys being looked at. I used mathematical odds to come to this conclusion but I will not divulge my secret formula because it could release my true identity.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1:
1) Agreed!
2) -
3)
3A) Nylander is a non-issue since his salary will either be buried in the minors or off the books in Europe somewhere.
4) I am hoping Flash for Bieksa is being considered
5) getting any one of them can be done. It's 2 that might mean parting with an additional player.
6) I like A.Gordon myself but am curious to see how Chimera does with a full season on the (presuming) 3rd line with Belanger and Fehr. Sounds like a nice line!

Edmonton won't take back Nylander's salary! Seriously, the team he so called signed with and then signed with the caps the next day! can't see Edmonton doing that!

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

pokerface,

I'm with Tom on dumping Chimera and feel the Columbus fans are soooooooo right that he has steel hands. I saw him miss the wide open net numerous times last year and the grit and nasty you say he had was only displayed in a couple games that I saw. Overall he was like the rest of the 3rd and 4th liners except Bradley.....content to avoid as much contact as possible.

Sorry to bash a player but I am really just not a fan of the guy expecially for a cap hit of 1.875......AGordon would do the same job for 500k.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Nylander could possibly be an issue. Not for cap reasons but for team payroll reasons.

Posted by: sgm3 | August 20, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Folks, if Vancouver trades Bieksa to anyone, they will re-sign Mitchell. They will not let both go. We would not get both of these D-men. Wishful thinking.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | August 20, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

@CTCapsPhan

I agree with you.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Is Sam Gagner still not signed in Edmonton?

Ill take him and Souray for Flash, Eskine and Poti.

Then sign Mitchell.

Cap hits anyone?

Posted by: rfonsii | August 20, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I like Bieksa out of them all though.

Posted by: rfonsii | August 20, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

One scenario that could play out, very doubtful as well:

We get Bieksa from Vancouver for Flash.

Then we get Jackman from St Louis for Chimera and Erskine.

But those two moves would still leave us with salary cap space of around $1M if send Sloan to Hershey.

The line up looks like this:

Ovi-Backs-Knubs
Semin-Ma Jo-Fehr
Laich-Belanger-A Gordon
B Gordon/King-Steckel-Bradley

Green-Jackman
Poti-Carlson
Bieksa-Schultz
Alzner

Varly/Neuvy

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't think a Merc vs a Lada is a fair fight. Though it doesn't sound like a clean hit, from behind and all.

Posted by: giscone | August 20, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Here's my cap-hit-be-damned hypothetical dream scenario; Semin and Poti to Boston for Chara. Erskine and Flash to Vancouver for Mitchell in a sign and trade. Then call up a couple of forwards Hershey B'ars to rotate into the 3rd and 4th lines as needed.

If you keep preaching about faith in your minor league system, now's the time to test it. Just put up a wall in front of Varly before you try it!

Posted by: atomicshakespeare | August 20, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Souray is washed up.

Posted by: chrisclarksucks | August 20, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Why do some of you want to get rid of Chimera. He wasn't brought in here to be a goal scorer which he has never been. He's got size, speed, and hits which is what they need more of, they have enough finesse. Keep him and let Alzner play, and pick up jackman, Bieksa, Mitchell or Souray in that order.

Posted by: topshelf | August 20, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Tom on dumping Chimera and feel the Columbus fans are soooooooo right that he has steel hands. I saw him miss the wide open net numerous times last year and the grit and nasty you say he had was only displayed in a couple games that I saw. Overall he was like the rest of the 3rd and 4th liners except Bradley.....content to avoid as much contact as possible.

Sorry to bash a player but I am really just not a fan of the guy expecially for a cap hit of 1.875......AGordon would do the same job for 500k.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse
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And understand that I'm not saying he's "untouchable". I just think he did better than what he's getting credit for. Look everybody misses multiple empty nets in games much less seasons. When the Caps lace em up, 9 games outta 10 Chimmer's the fastest player on the ice. That's good for many things namely the PK. So I'm in favor of keeping big, extremely fast & gritty players around.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | August 20, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

pokerface,

Guess we will just agree to disagree on this one. You are right, he is big and fast....I just wish he used those tools, especially his size, all the time. At a 1.875 cap hit he should bring more to the table than he does.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

If we trade Semin it has to be to a team in the West. I don't want him to come back and haunt us. If it's in the Stanley Cup Finals I can live with that.

As far as Chimera making over 1.8mil a year, that was the contract that came back our way. Clark went to Columbus at 2.6mil and wasn't going to provide much if anything more so in the long run we are saving about .7 mil against the Cap. Straight up, I seriously doubt Chimera would have been able to squeeze anywhere near 1.8 mil per year based on what he brings to the table but like I said, the trade moved money off the salary cap. Clark's 2.6 is on Columbus' books through the end of 2010-11 season.

Posted by: fanohock1 | August 20, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

@giscone

You (as well as several posters at Japers) have been having a field day with puns and other wisecracks about the accident.

There was a whole Lada shaking going on.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | August 20, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"Erskine and Flash to Vancouver for Mitchell in a sign and trade."

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@atomicshakespeare:

Why wouldn't you just sign Mitchell since he's an UFA and give the above package for Bieksa?

@CTCapsPhan:
that's a very astutue observation... especially with Salo being perpetually injured.

but maybe there is a chance to get Beiksa and Mitchell is a coup... the remaining question is, which D of Green, Schultz, Poti, Alzner, or Carlson sits? tough choice!

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I miss Tarik. Nothing against Katie but it sure seems like since he left we get nothing as far as updates and very slow when we do.

Posted by: d99gr81 | August 20, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I'd be pissed if I was hit by a Lada. Had the displeasure of driving a couple of those while stationed in Panama back in the late '80s. A Ford Fiesta would be the luxury model of the Lada fleet.

Posted by: fanohock1 | August 20, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

It better not be for Souray... that would make zero sense.. money, and ability would make no sense. Make the deal with Vancouver GMGM!

Posted by: d99gr81 | August 20, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat

You're right in Nylander likely not to be a concern for us, cap space wise since his NMC has expired.

But NHL Numbers is still listing Nylander for our guys. (And we are edging really close to the Cap.)

Acquiring Flash for Souray (and assuming Nylander is gone) puts us in that same boat). Souray's salary essentially wipes out any cap savings due to stashing Nyls.

That being said, the trade doesn't sound like the wisest decision from a business standpoint. Flash for Bieksa sounds more cost-effective.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | August 20, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Souray is the least desirable with the type of D-man he is (another PP QB) and how often he has been injured/missed games + his cap hit. HE CLEARED WAIVERS NOT TOO LONG AGO. Obviously, a trade involving him will have to be a one-way deal, Souray + assets for his cap hit. I can't see Flash being the give on that one.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | August 20, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to bash a player but I am really just not a fan of the guy expecially for a cap hit of 1.875......AGordon would do the same job for 500k.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 12:53 PM

YES - THAT WAS POINT.

Nylander could possibly be an issue. Not for cap reasons but for team payroll reasons.

Posted by: sgm3 | August 20, 2010 12:57 PM

AND MY POINT ON THAT ONE TOO.

BTW, Oilers have $9M in space counting Souray. Once they find out no one will take him at full hit, they'll do re-entry waivers and at least save $4.5M of the next two year's salary.

pokerface: My problem with Chimera, speed aside, is all his skills are average. Not nearly good enough offensively for #2 line; not good enough defensively for a true checking line; and overpaid for 4th line. AGordon scored 37 at Hershey last year, and by all accounts he'll give a better PK effort than Chimera. Plus him, Pinner and Beagle cost less than Chimera COMBINED.

My point: If the Caps are going to take on some salary, the only way to do that is move salary back. Poti and Chimera are decent players, but they are the ones you move in a salary exchange. Likewise Nylander, it would be nice for Ted to save that $3M.

Edm has waived Souray and supposedly will eat that $9M. nostrathomas says though - Don't you believe that! Re-entry waivers saves them $4.5M (and they have cap space for rest). Or, trade them Nylander, Poti and Ersk. They can use two of the three and they actually save $1M.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | August 20, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

@capfan75

Start using www.capgeek.com its much easier to use. Updated more frequently. And it lets you edit and mess around with things like proposed trades to see if it fits under the cap etc.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I'm not at all in favor of Souray. By moving Flash and Erskine, and maybe if you combine that with moving Chimera and using AGordon, you can have a good #2 center and a good defenseman. Why have Souray use all that space?

Again on Chimera, I see the best Caps can ice is Semin and Fehr on line #2 with that new center, and Laich (LW) and AGordon (RW) with Belanger on line 3. BTW, if AG plays in the NHL like he did in the AHL, we can expect a solid #3 RW for a long time. A player with 37 goals in the A with solid defensive credentials means he was a "dominant player."

Maybe this is just me relying on what people here who have watched Hershey say about Gordon. OK, Hershey watchers - who will be a better defensive forward next year, Chimera or AGordon? And, whoever the answer is, that's who I want as my third line RW.

Also, that's why I want Pinner as a #4 LW. People who watch him say he's very good on the PK. A 4th liner at $500K with grit and PK skills...that's value.

Pinner, Beagle, AGordon, $500K each...that's like a double happy hour where they give you three beers for the price of one.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | August 20, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

tominsocal1,

I really do not see that scenario occurring but if it did I certainly would not be extremely upset, after all I like Souray even with all the negative posts about him. He is far more than a PP qb and has a mean streak that would be a nice fit IF, and that is a big IF, he can stay healthy. I think the Bieska and sign Mitchell scenario would be the best but would not bother me in the least if it is Souray.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

chimera=useless and a classic underachiever

He's got Mike Grier hands. And less physical. And I'm not even a Grier fan in that regard

I'll take Souray for Flash considering I don't even want to ever see Flash don a Caps jersey again. Souray at least brings some intangibles like toughness and leadership. And he's still got that booming shot. whether or not he's a marquee dman is of little consequence. He'll provide more toughness than Erskine has brought to the lineup and he's a better player. That's enough of an upgrade for me to take him for Flash.

Posted by: cstanton1 | August 20, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

ThePat: Only problem with cap geek is it doesn't count the bonuses. As we saw with the Hawks, that's a dangerous game.

BTW, I keep forgetting DJ King. Put him with the other three and it's like four tough beers for the price of one overpriced import at a fancy bar.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | August 20, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

cstanton: I would take Souray at re-entry price (2.7) but not at full hit. For one year, maybe, but to include next year - no.

Also, whoever said that we took Chimera to move Clark was spot on. What Columbus wanted was Jurcina. The "price" for Jurcina was they take Clark and give us Chimera.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | August 20, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal

I believe they made that adjustment. Alzner currently is a $1.675 cap hit on our roster on capgeek. They list the bonuses as the cap payroll then subtract the bonuses to show salary cap space.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Would absolutely love to see Chimera and his rock hands traded away!

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 11:01 AM

Am I the only one that couldn't disagree more with this comment. Chimera was a great pick up in my mind.

Posted by: kkd76 | August 20, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

@kkd76

No, I agree with you. Good pickup, especially bearing in mind that we saved $700,000 by moving Clark. He does a fine job on the 3rd line.

Posted by: EricinReston | August 20, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

@kkd76 & ericinreston:
I'm with you two! I think Chimera is a great 3rd liner and can't wait to see him, Belanger and Fehr as the 3rd line that matches up and gives fits to the opposition.

Would I give Chimera up in a trade to get back a #2 or 3D like Bieksa, Mitchell or Jackman (a stretch to call him a #2)?

Yes... because one of the other 3rd or 4th liners could fill in admirably and Defense is a more more important area!

@tominsocal1:
I agree with you except that other teams ahead of us would jump at that and he'd never make it to us.

@cstanton1:
I think we can get more for Flash than just Souray given him passing waivers this off season. If they sweetened it with a 2nd and another pick that would be great! Hypothetically speaking!

oh, and how was your time off dude?

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Perfectly happy with the 700k in savings as Clark was under performing as well. Chimera simply does not play to his cap hit, that is all I am saying.....especially when they have players sitting at 500k salary that could step in and fill his role. That would be an additional 1.375 in cap room to sign a piece they need.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

My ideal 3rd line would be:

Laich/Belanger/AGordon

and move Fehr up to the 2nd line where he belongs:

Semin/Incoming 2C/Fehr

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

FRank: I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on Fehr. I believe he will become a very good scoring line winger. But, to use him on a checking line, no. Laich I would suggest, and AGordon, are more suited to that role. IMHO.

ThePat: Yes, that's my point. They add the bonuses into the total salary but then subtract them when showing available cap space. So they show cap space exclusive of the bonuses. And, if you spend all your cap space (the Hawks) and then get hit with the bonuses, you get penalized for your overrun with a reduction for the following year. Bottom line: when tominsocal1 tells you how much cap space is open, he tells that the number shown covers the bonuses. No shady, used-car-salesmanship from me!

Bottom line, with bonuses covered, we have 2.6 in space with 22 on roster and 1.9 in space with MP as 14th forward.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | August 20, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

@tom

Ok...and I appreciate you posting all the salary cap info but they give you two different numbers. If you take 15 seconds to type it into a calculator you figure out the cap space with the bonuses. 59.4 - the cap payroll number= cap space with bonuses included. They give you the information so its not difficult.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

so to say capgeek.com doesnt give you the information is a bit misleading is my point.

Posted by: ThePat | August 20, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

BXA > Souray

Please not Souray...

If we cannot bring in both BXA and Mitchell, The logical choice would seem to be Regehr...

Posted by: Rhino40 | August 20, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Souray is the last ditch option if all others fall through for one reason or another. I am just not as negative about the guy as many are on here, if healthy he would be a major upgrade over what they currently have......the major issue is that cap hit.

Posted by: PhilR | August 20, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Sad news: Shea Weber's mom just passed away. I guess she's been fighting a brain tumor for 8yrs. Condolences.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | August 20, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Souray would be a huge mistake, we could have had him for free when he was put on waivers, why would we trade for him now his large contract isn’t worth it.. While he would be an upgrade the commitment to him in my opinion isn’t worth it.. I am pretty sure we would be on the hook for the entire salary, as the CBA doesn’t allow team who are trading a player to pay part of salary and count it against their cap space

Posted by: CapsBaby | August 20, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Semin's auto accident...was Mark Staal driving the other car?

Posted by: dcunitedfan3 | August 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

@Rhino40- I agree, please not Souray. Too much money for too much risk. Don't get me wrong, he would be great to have if 100% healthy but not for that cap hit with health concerns.

As far as Chimera, I don't think he's as bad as some have said but also agree we could do just as good if not better with AG or Pinner, especially considering the money we'd save.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | August 20, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

@kkdy - re: Chimera's "rock hands"

As you will recall, with the Caps down by one in the closing seconds, Semin manufactured a terrific scoring opp, putting the puck right on Chimmer's stick with an open net. Alas, being a gritty player with character (not a skilled and potentially evil person like Semin), Chimera whiffed. Still I think he's a useful 3rd liner because of his speed...

Posted by: RedLitYogi | August 20, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

CapsBaby: The only reason you'd "trade" for Souray is to force Edmonton to take back salary in exchange for that contract. Some teams, the Islanders I think, are under the cap bottom, so you'd think for them he'd be great. Or a guy like Nylander - $3M in actual salary but $4.875M in cap hit.

That said, the more I think about it, the more I think no way can you let Souray use 9% of your cap space. It's like if you have $100 in grocery money to feed your family for the entire week. Would you spend $9 on one steak that was about two days beyond its "sell by" date?

Posted by: tominsocal1 | August 20, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

@RedLitYogi

I agree that Chimera's great speed should not be overlooked. As with any team sport, speed is a very important asset to have.

Posted by: sgm3 | August 20, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1:

I actually agree with you on Fehgr being top 6 and will show it start to finish this season...

however, until Flash is off the roster, Semin is the #2RW, the spot where Fehr should be...

pardon me if I gave the impression that I prefered Fehr on the 3rd line. Didn't mean to tdo that.
I prefer Fehr on the All Star team with 45 goals and 45 assists and pushing Knuble off the #1RW spot :-O *ooh, nice visual*

and I also prefer Flash traded with a nice return of Bieksa or a similar defenseman!

please GMGM, make it Christmas in August for us Caps fans... :-D

Posted by: FrankM73 | August 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I put the Souray rumors in the same category as Niemi. Both make no sense at all for the Caps. Niemi has played 42 reg season gms in the NHL. He has a .910 sv pct in those gms and that is also his sv pct for the post season. .910 is OK at best, yeah he won a cup but that doesn't make him great! Goaltenders are the most unpredictable of all of the hockey positions. We have a perfect situation having two above average prospects that we can play for cheap until we see which one we like best, to trade Varly or Neuvy for anyone at this point would be a major mistake.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | August 20, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else find it interesting that Semin's Mercedes was rear ended by a Lada since he played for Lada in the Russian league. Maybe it was a disgruntled Lada fan that resented Semin cruising around in a Mercedes after leaving his/hers beloved team for the NHL.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | August 20, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

...and knew that Mark Staal was ready for payback...

Posted by: dcunitedfan3 | August 20, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Kovy has signed a new contract with ..... The NJ Devils. Imagine that.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | August 20, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Asham signs with Pens.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | August 20, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

What about putting Backstrom on the 2nd line and making Perreault or Belanger the 1st line Center? Would Ovie and Knuble's production go down at all? Would Backstrom make the 2nd line hum? Just "spitballing" around here since #2 center seems to be a problem area.

Posted by: barney13 | August 20, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Willie Mitchell over Souray and Bieksa. Mitchell has been a career + player. Souray has been up and down. Bieksa is a career - player. The Caps need a solid shut down D that can play Green type minutes and who can be an anchor on the PK. Scoring only carries you so far (1st Round to be exact). They need to solidify the blue line.

Posted by: PSULion55 | August 20, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I put the Souray rumors in the same category as Niemi. Both make no sense at all for the Caps. Niemi has played 42 reg season gms in the NHL. He has a .910 sv pct in those gms and that is also his sv pct for the post season. .910 is OK at best, yeah he won a cup but that doesn't make him great! Goaltenders are the most unpredictable of all of the hockey positions. We have a perfect situation having two above average prospects that we can play for cheap until we see which one we like best, to trade Varly or Neuvy for anyone at this point would be a major mistake.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash

Disagree. Souray would help. If we got rid of Flash and Chimera, it would be ok.

Souray has a mean streak, and a cannon. He is suspect on defense at times, but a big improvement over Erskine/Sloan. He would also add some much needed grit and leadership.

Posted by: underpants2 | August 20, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Asham to the Pens, yikes.

Cooke and Asham, should be fun.

Posted by: underpants2 | August 20, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

i dunno, sending the guy to edmonton just seems kinda mean. it's like sending someone to the detroit lions, except it's even colder.

glad semin is ok though. that's what happens when driving in russia. traffic laws are optional, unless the police want to pull you over to get a bribe.

Posted by: j762 | August 20, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

underpants2- I also like Souray's mean streak and would love to have his bomb on the point, I just think he's too much money and that we more need a defensive D man right now.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | August 21, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Right on J762. I've been recently in Russia. Their police or milicia is sort of gang with own territory and bribe rate.If you are travelling and thinking to drive in Russia better get enough cash with you.

Posted by: dugza | August 25, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

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