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Posted at 6:42 PM ET, 12/15/2010

Open thread: Capitals vs. Ducks

By Washington Post sports editors

The Washington Capitals (18-11-3) look to get back their scoring touch and end a six-game skid tonight against the Anaheim Ducks (16-13-4).

Chat about the game in the comments below, or join the conversation on Twitter and see your tweets here by using #caps.

Faceoff: 7 p.m., Verizon Center; TV: CSN; Radio: 820, 1500 AM.

Click here for a live game summary.


By Washington Post sports editors  | December 15, 2010; 6:42 PM ET
Categories:  Anaheim Ducks  
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Comments

Posted by: joek443 | December 15, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

not 'the twitter' again :(

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

"But to just disregard the Flash trade as a possible cause of the slide is wrong. "

gee maybe DJ King's absence from the lineup has also contributed to the slide! Maybe if the Caps had Jurcina last year they would have made it to round 2 the way they did the previous yr with Juice in the lineup.

the Caps coach and philosophy is very generous to players like Flash. Despite that generosity, he still faded in and out like those hazy memories tucked within the aftermath of a post-roofie hangover.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Let's Go CAPS!!

I want to feel the happiness of winning again. I can't take much more of this.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | December 15, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Anyone wanna take a guess on the # of 1st period shots we'll get? I'll guess......16.

Posted by: Dizruption | December 15, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

All you have to do is compare the Caps record, this season, when Flash is in the lineup to when he has not. You can do the same for each and every player. Then you can compare the Caps record before the Flash trade to after the Flash trade. This could also take into effect the trade on how the psyche of the locker room along with Flash's absence.

The results are the results. You can take them however you want to.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 15, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Besides a hardfought game and the 28+ hits we'll have in the gm, I predict a chippy game from Chimmychacha. For one, its a home game. That's where he likes to puff out his chest. Two, its not the Flyers or Pens or Rags. Three, its players like #25 who selectively play hard when the heat is on.

Should he be allowed to share the same jersey# that was worn by John Kordic? I think not.

round 2 of this clip watch him ragdol big Jay Caufield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g8XkbbYx8c

and watch the cheapshot on Keith Acton. Who prolly deserved it. Kordic brings his stick up the front of Acton's body and breaks his nose. ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLgNIdJFej4

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

This could also take into effect the trade on how the psyche of the locker room along with Flash's absence.
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LOL I think you're making a great case for all the "dark-siders".

Seriously if that were true, wouldn't that just prove how FRAGILE this team truly was??

If they're too fragile to handle something like that, what chance do they have of doing anything past April??

Posted by: joek443 | December 15, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Why is this house so cheap? bad area? no jobs? proliferation of Flash fans?

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 5:43 PM

i'd go with your third choice there - that and it's within 10 miles of a fan of 'flash'

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if we'll see any clips of OV and his crew of Russian hos hitting the clubs on HBO.. I'm sure we'll some of his notorious "side" again.

Just another distraction that OV and the Caps need right now.

Posted by: BigGameSid | December 15, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

well I see his point. If nothing else, Flash was a great locker room presence. His war stories of the times he'd go skipping thru the Czech woods and wrestle bunny rabbits. Big fearsome bunny rabbits.

I'm going to write you a prescription sgm. Watch another 200 hockey games of which no more than half of those are Caps games. And as many playoff series as possible. And no, finnish elite leagues do not count.

If you're still not fixed after all that, I'll do an intervention on you. Eyes propped open with clips and nothing but Don Cherry's Rockem Sockem VHS grainy footage played across a big screen.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I've got that feeling tonight.

I don't do it often but tonight I'm gonna have to give the Caps the PARKER LEWIS!

...play your chips accordingly.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Big game Sid = closet caps fan.

Posted by: Dizruption | December 15, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

i'd go with your third choice there - that and it's within 10 miles of a fan of 'flash'

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

haha, excellent! Looks like a perfectly respectable location to start up cstanton's Escort Svcs. We can turn that pool into the "grotto".

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say I am nervous for our boys tonight! Lots of guys out, a pretty good oponent, and a lot of pressure.

Hope they use the situation as a motivator, but gotta say that the odds are stacked against them. Not going to be easy but...

GO CAPS!!!!

Posted by: capscoach | December 15, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

penalty on capt_kirk_in_az for improper use of "armchair GM"
no posting for 2 minutes

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

dude, quit padding your PIM totals! Typical Caps fan. I'm surprised you didn't give yerself a gamer for that one.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Hope they use the situation as a motivator, but gotta say that the odds are stacked against them. Not going to be easy but...


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it'll be totally easy. They know that there's a ton of scrutiny on their work ethic. They'll finish their checks, they'll be aggressive. Maybe take a penalty or two. You've got more youthful grit in the lineup. It'll be a grinding game and the Caps should prevail unless their goaltending lets em down.

That being said, i see the forest for the trees. And the Caps winning this game or the next one or whatever is not the best thing for this team if they want to get to a higher level. Because the likelihood is they'll revert back to their ways once they get comfortable and the heat's off.

so even if they lose tonight, there's always that silver lining...and either way we should get to see a good game.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Didn't we have a dip after the Clark/Juice for Chimmychangas trade also, right before the long winningstreak? i think it could be a natural reaction to when the personel/chemistry changes in the lockerroom, for no apperant reason.
I mean, we were doing just fine uptil that point, winning-wise. We didn't play PO-hockey, but we were winning most of the time. So maybe it's a way of showing dissapointment of the trade?

Posted by: Walle | December 15, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

dude, quit padding your PIM totals! Typical Caps fan. I'm surprised you didn't give yerself a gamer for that one.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 6:12 PM

i can't claim i have any grit - but do i get any credit for at least being an agitator?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

you definitely are a sneaky agitator.


speaking of trying to quantify the effect of losing or gaining a player after a trade, didn't the Caps win like 6 straight games when John Kordic entered their lineup? Even though he seemed to get ejected in every game, he was definitely a boost to our lineup because suddenly everyone was playing 3 inches and 30 lbs bigger on the ice.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

I would have thought that 2, but I also thougt thats what would have happened in the Rags game...so now I assume nothing! That way it only takes me a few hours to emotionally recover if things go badly.

Posted by: capscoach | December 15, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

guess what...

NEW THREAD!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

HYPOTHETICAL: Let's say you DON'T have HBO and you want to see the 24/7 series, how would a person watch it??!?

Posted by: Albright4Snapper | December 15, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

DISCLAIMER: THE BELOW POST IS NOT DIRECTED AT A SPECIFIC POSTER. PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY AND COMPLETELY BEFORE RESPONDING...

I have taken some time to think about some of the posts I have seen lately, and I am sorry that it has taken me so long to say these things:

I have seen some people on this board actually say that they hope the losing skid continues, so as to speed the departure/firing of the Coach, the General Manager, or both.

You don't like GMGM or agree with anything he does? So be it.

You don't like BB? So be it.

I DON'T CARE how much you hate the Coach, the GM, or both of them. You voice support for your team no matter what, and--even more important--you always, always, ALWAYS root for your team to WIN, no matter what.

This at the very core of what it means to be a fan of your team.

There is a fine (but unmistakable) line between statements like:

"Drastic changes must be made to this team if it is to have success,"

and

"I hope the team loses more games so that it can be rid of a Player/Coach/General Manager I dislike."

I know that it is not mathematically possible for the Caps to win every single game--#311, I may even (on occasion) feel that they might deserve to lose a particular game. That said, I will never, ever, EVER root for them to lose.

As for anyone on this board who does root for the Caps to lose, I say unto them:

Shame on you. How dare you call yourself a fan of this team?!?!...and don't even try to justify it by saying things like:

"But I'm a Season Ticket Holder, which gives me the right..."

or

"I have been following this team since 1974, so I know what I'm talking about..."

or

"It's nothing personal: [insert name] is a nice guy but he needs to go..."

or

"some adversity is good for the team..."

Spare me. We all know that last statement is true. But every NHL team is going to lose some games anyway, without their supposed "fans" rooting for their defeat. I don't care about any qualifiers or weasel-words one might use: You never root for your team to lose. There is no excuse for it and you shouldn't do it. Not ever. Anyone who calls themselves a fan of this team and then roots for them to lose--even a single game--is worse than a troll.

BOTTOM LINE: Whether one's beverage of choice be KoolAid® or Goat's Blood™; whether they are a fan since 1974 or, shall we say, a more recent convert to the Faith; whether a long-time Full-Season Ticket Holder or a person who can barely afford to watch the games on TV, it matters not: Anyone who roots for the Washington Capitals to lose--EVER, should keep it to themselves or go to some other team's blog...because they surely don't belong here!

Posted by: Rhino40 | December 15, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

^^^^This

well said

Posted by: Phishhead311 | December 15, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

guess what...

NEW THREAD!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 6:41 PM

wtf - wtf?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

where's the fire? why aren't they winning yet? this game is over!!!

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

THAT SNEAKY LITTLE WAPO-ITE!

THEY MOVED THE THREADS!!!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

W
T
F
!

MAKE IT COUNT!


lovely pass by 8.5

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

OV
OVerpassing

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

i laich it

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

way to go laich

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

puck came right to him

thats a sign people

our fortune is changing

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please post the site to live stream. Out on travel and not able to see the game on tv.

Posted by: instinct227 | December 15, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

we were a bit too deliberate in that period

but i will take the win any way i can get it

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

repost

DISCLAIMER: THE BELOW POST IS NOT DIRECTED AT A SPECIFIC POSTER. PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY AND COMPLETELY BEFORE RESPONDING...

blah...blah...blah...garbage

Posted by: Rhino40 | December 15, 2010 6:45 PM

Rhino

I am neither a kool-aid drinker or a goat blooder. You however have NO right to tell me whether or not I am a fan of the Caps. Fist I have been following NHL Hockey since the early 60's. I have been following the Caps since 1974, so yes I AM A CAPS FAN! (and yes I am raising my voice here). Based on your definition of a fan, I am not. Yes I want the Caps to win Lord Stanley's Cup more than just about anything in sports today. However, I and many others strongly believe that IF they continue down the path they are on they will not do that. If hoping the Caps lose a specific game, or a series of games, enough to cause ownership/management (above BB pay grade) to change the direction of this team to a direction I stronly believe will lead to the ultimate goal then I will do so. It is not about losing a specific game, but HOW they are losing. My Caps seem disinterested and not trying. Will I change my tune if they go on a long winning streak? Only if that streak occurs staring in April and continues through June.

I AM NOW AND ALWAYS WILL BE A CAPS FAN.

Posted by: realoldcapsfan | December 15, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

@instinct

Atdhe.net

Posted by: Dizruption | December 15, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

we were a bit too deliberate in that period

but i will take the win any way i can get it

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 7:46 PM

i believe they need to pay attention to what they are doing - instead of just floating around doing whatever they want - i see this as a good thing

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I like the TEAM defense! Keep it up guys

Posted by: capscoach | December 15, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

@ Dizruption

Thanks. Appreciate it.

Posted by: instinct227 | December 15, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Rhino i looked past your msg for the most part. I know it was directed at me and a few others and frankly it bored me to death because I've explained my position on this topic ad nauseum. As have others. And you are entitled to your opinion as well. FTR, that rah rah cheerleader attitude of yours is irrelevant to me because it doesn't involve any critical thought besides defining in your mind what being a "fan" is all about. If I chose to I could rip that argument apart in a million ways but it wouldn't do any good.

That being said, that first pd was so-so. They looked tentative instead of hungry. They're also look scared of taking penalties.

If they win this game playing that way, its of no consolation to me. Because imo, you have to play confidently and aggressively to win in this league. I've seen this team play scared hockey and win a few games, it doesn't impress me one bit. It'll inevitably lead to a situation where a player who ends up taking a penalty that leads to a critical goal against ends up being the scapegoat for a larger issue.

You play hockey the 'right' way, and the wins will come and you'll do better in the playoffs. You play scared tentative (some folks like to call it "careful") hockey and you may win a game here and there but when it counts that style of play will screw you in the end. You have to be able to look past the results of one game. I can understand that being unsure of themselves, this team is trying to pull off a win anyway they can so that could explain the tentativeness. But I've seen this act before and I fear they'll think this is now the way they need to keep playing in order to win some games.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why the Caps do not contact Scott Stevens and ask him to be the defensive coach. At least he knows how to bodycheck someone. The Caps defense is soft and the word has gotten around the league that Caps defensemen will not challenge you, so the opposing forwards are coming in deeper and getting off higher quality shots. As George Allen once said "Offense is nice, but defense wins you games".

Posted by: buddy8304 | December 15, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why the Caps do not contact Scott Stevens and ask him to be the defensive coach. At least he knows how to bodycheck someone. The Caps defense is soft and the word has gotten around the league that Caps defensemen will not challenge you, so the opposing forwards are coming in deeper and getting off higher quality shots. As George Allen once said "Offense is nice, but defense wins you games".

Posted by: buddy8304 | December 15, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

@Capt

I felt like offensively they were passing on opportunities to shoot. For example on the PP when Hendricks got the puck in the slot, he just stickhandled to the back of the net.

He was in prime shooting territory with a man advantage.

Moral of the story...

EXECUTE, SCORE!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

carp

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Alzner!!! Tsk Tsk!

Posted by: capscoach | December 15, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

God. It feels like we're losing

Posted by: Dizruption | December 15, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Nice penalty draw by ovie

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Rhino

I am neither a kool-aid drinker or a goat blooder. You however have NO right to tell me whether or not I am a fan of the Caps. Fist I have been following NHL Hockey since the early 60's. I have been following the Caps since 1974, so yes I AM A CAPS FAN! (and yes I am raising my voice here). Based on your definition of a fan, I am not. Yes I want the Caps to win Lord Stanley's Cup more than just about anything in sports today. However, I and many others strongly believe that IF they continue down the path they are on they will not do that
--realoldcapsfan---


AMEN. Glad someone else has some sense around here. Frankly, Rhino's definition of a fan makes em sound like blind sheep who can't see the big picture. But who am I to judge.

Its not like losing another 3 or 4 games in a row...which may precipitate significant change....which could actually have some longterm benefits ...could ever be a good thing. Gee is it ok to wish for that without actively rooting for a team to lose? hmmm....would i have to secretly wish for that to make myself a real fan in someone else's eyes? hmm...does it matter either freaking way or do I give s h _ t?

no

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

not quite the balls-out effort even an optimist like myself expected tonight. I thought we'd come out storming them, running them over, playing like every shift was do or die. If this is the kind of hockey they intend on playing after all this apparent soul-searching, no thank you.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

This is what happens when teams go into slumps or losing streaks.

The Caps have played the right way and completely dominated this game for the most part and may end up on the wrong side of the decision.

People will point at bad luck, good/lucky goaltending, a lack of finishing, etc... and they'd be right but when you don't do the right things game after game, this is what happens: you get games that you should've won but get unlucky on top of games where you play poorly and deserve to lose. If the Caps had played right in other games, they probably win 1 or 2 of them and this potential loss doesn't become the 7th in a row and players, fans, etc... can swallow it more easily.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

not quite the balls-out effort even an optimist like myself expected tonight. I thought we'd come out storming them, running them over, playing like every shift was do or die. If this is the kind of hockey they intend on playing after all this apparent soul-searching, no thank you.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 8:41 PM

Not seeing eye to eye at all here. I think the Caps have largely played very good, complete hockey in this game... certainly based on what we've come to expect from them not just during the losing streak but in general.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

And I'm not saying they've been flawless. That was obviously a weak PK and they get dangerously outworked in their own end on that cycle by that one shift.

There's obviously also the lack of finishing but for the most part, compared to how this team usually plays, they've worked harder and have been sharper in all 3 zones.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Brian Boyle ran over Crosby tonight. Love it!

@tmac

if this team gave the same type of effort in even 80% of its games it did v Ottawa and the Devils at the start of the yr, the giddiness on this board would be as fruity as it was deserving. I'm not as impressed with this effort as you obviously are but your point is valid. As Knuble said, you don't play great at the tail end of a winning streak and you don't play badly on the tail end of a losing streak. You have to fight your way out of a losing streak.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

totally agree cstanton1
Wheres the heart,the passion,the explosiveness the caps should of came out with?The pp and pk still suks,looks like theres no need for urgency for which there is!! I dont know whats goin on in capsland but they need to wake up and smell the rubber of the puck.Get that thing ion the net and keep it there.But at the same point varly looks flusterd out there,not good.all the caps r not lookn good in my book but... lets go caps,get this thing right!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | December 15, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

boy, just watching Arron Asham play his role to a tee with the Penguins makes you wonder how things would be here if we just added a guy like that once in a while. This offseason we coulda added Nystrom and Asham and significantly upgraded our bottom 6.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Usually, by this point in a game, the Caps have had several horrible positional breakdowns - that's one of the bad characteristics of this team. Tonight, they've clearly been more discipline and focused in that area.

One other bad play though was that high-risk curl and drag through the legs that 8 tried up near the opposing blue line. Not surprisingly, it led to one of ANA's few dangerous attacks in this game. That's just low IQ hockey but 8 has been much better in this game when it comes to details and decision-making - much better than usual.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I must admit they are snake bitten. They could easily have been up 4-0 after that first period. Well it is what it is, the Ducks scored too easily on that PP (Alzner). Now, they need to play steady this last period and hope for a regulation/OT win or win it in a SO.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 15, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Can offensive hockey win? Of course it can, as long certain basic tenets are followed. Some examples could be:
One, finish your checks whether in the offensive end, defensive end, or neutral zone. Just finish your checks.
Two, don’t have your defense made up solely of similar player styles. Don’t be all hitters or positional. Don’t be all defensive or offensive defensemen.
Three, don’t leave your defensemen or goalies out to dry.
Above all else, play intelligently.
There are several other tenets that can be applied or added, but hopefully you will get an idea of what I am trying to say.
Now, can you honestly tell me that this Caps team has done this within the past 2-3 years? If no, then it may well be time for some serious changes.

Posted by: realoldcapsfan | December 15, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

no semin ......good he deserves to sit

Posted by: wendel2 | December 15, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Good support in front of our net by 8. That shouldn't be such a rare thing to see by him or any other forward, wings and cetners alike.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

what happened to richmondphil?

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 15, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Avery and Asham are having a little discussion. LOL.
Anyone staying up to watch 24/7?

Posted by: nicety251 | December 15, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

ANA has stepped it up energy wise. Let's see if the Caps can man up and meet the push.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Asham's awesome. Another guy that a lot of us pinpointed as a valuable guy to bring on. The Pens needed him less than we did and they still went out and got him. Rich gettin richer.


"One, finish your checks whether in the offensive end, defensive end, or neutral zone. Just finish your checks. "

simple, yet incredibly elusive to this team.

another point -- its amazing how many times they try to push Erskine out of this lineup and then when things go wrong they end up relying on him heavily. He's always odd man out. Always having to prove himself. He oughta just tell em to F off and go to an org that appreciates him.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

nice hit ovy..i hate perry, but would take him in a heartbeat.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

that whole offensive chance originated from a Chimera hustle and hit along the boards. A play he chooses to only attempt one out of every 5 or 6 times, usually depending on the opponent and the venue.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Good support in front of our net by 8. That shouldn't be such a rare thing to see by him or any other forward, wings and cetners alike.

Posted by: tmac2yao

me and you are the poster kids for backhanded compliments.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

ANA was the better team for the first 10 min of the 3rd and were largely dictating play.

We picked it up over the last couple of minutes.

The Caps need to step it up and take momentum right here.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

2 goals in 15 secs. Guess who? I just need the Caps to win.

Posted by: nicety251 | December 15, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

i just realized why im enjoying this game a little more than normal.

no bgordo
no semin
no sarge
a predictably uptempo game by Chimera
and some overall urgency by the entire team

nice bump by Carlson in front on Lupul cutting in.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I WANT TO SEE 5 MINUTES OF HELL!

AND A VICTORY!!!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Getting outworked a little in our own end. The Caps need to take it up one notch right now.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Blake is a fast mofo. He walked down Senor Changa!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Really nice the way Ovie positioned himself to center the puck on that final push.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

ANA dominated much of that period. I'd give the Caps probably a B effort as far as resisting the pressure. It would probably be a C effort for a team that is typically better in their own end but you have to grade the Caps with a curve in that respect.

We definitely were the better team in the first 2 periods but that's the way it goes sometimes. You have to be able to win 2-1 games sometimes.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Let's say you DON'T have HBO and you want to see the 24/7 series, how would a person watch it??!?

Posted by: gringo184 | December 15, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Let's say you DON'T have HBO and you want to see the 24/7 series, how would a person watch it??!?

Posted by: gringo184 | December 15, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Let's say you DON'T have HBO and you want to see the 24/7 series, how would a person watch it??!?

Posted by: gringo184 | December 15, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Let's say you DON'T have HBO and you want to see the 24/7 series, how would a person watch it??!?

Posted by: gringo184 | December 15, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

yeah agreed, ovie's playing well and more aware in both zones tonight. Hasn't been a force along the boards but overall he's played well.

Ana has played a good road game. I wish we played teams like that and the Kings more often too. Good tempo, and a good gritty opponent.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

It seems like we dont look to center the puck from the boards enough.

Guys streak down the middle and the pass doesnt come...

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

sometimes you gotta dump the puck Ovy.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

foiled again!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I can live with that loss. Getzlaf is awesome.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

well - some of you got what you wanted

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

No problem, two down two to go.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 15, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

blame Hannan if you're gonna blame anyone, he slowed up instead of hitting Getzlaf.

Carlson played Getzlaf pretty well along the boards. He tried to body him off, then a good play by Getzlaf to spin away and make some room for himself but Hannan had a chance to maybe hit him right as he was shooting the puck but he backed off.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

in past two games we scored one goal.... AwESOME!FIRE BB

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 15, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

this losing stuff really does suck

wasnt so long ago that i expected to win every game.

my expectations are quite different now.

should i say "at least we didnt get slaughtered?"

"at least we got a pt?"

THATS WHAT LOSERS SAY!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | December 15, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

well - some of you got what you wanted

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ |

like we had anything to do with it....

i know, blame the fans!

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

On the plus side, we only lost that game by 1 goal...

By my math, that's like a 600% improvement over last game.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 15, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

sometimes you gotta dump the puck Ovy.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:33 PM

No kidding. That's one of those things that goes back to coaching.

You saw ANA's top line doing it all night, and more effectively later in the game, in addition to their cycle work.

Knuble and Backstrom have strong cycling skills but 8 either isn't good at it or isn't committed enough/coached enough to buying into it.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Offensively, this team can't find its a*s with both hands. That used to be their strong point.

Posted by: zmega | December 15, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Carlson had to crush him. BTW, why can't Ovi do that? He's a big guy.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 15, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

That bites! The D need to get their sticks in the way...don't let someone play with the puck that close to the net.

Much better effort, We just need to score!

Posted by: capscoach | December 15, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

today I blame it on capstronaut, that mofo is back!!

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 15, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Just like the Redskins...Just like the Wizards...

THE CAPS SUCK!!!

Posted by: ekbinion68 | December 15, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

"well - some of you got what you wanted"

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It's weird that the first thing you would do after a loss is blame other fans.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 15, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

VT, that's exactly what McPhee's thinking :)

overall, a better effort tonight then they've had in many wins.

But I still expected an even better effort esp by the forwards on the forecheck.

How many more losses should I secretly hope for to get BB and GM fired? Serious question.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I've brought that exact point up in the past. Ovechkin is considered a physical presence because of the hits he delivers but you rarely see him show strength/grit along the boards.

I know he uses an extremely curved blade which hurts a little in that area but I don't think it's just that.

Both Knuble and Backstrom are far stronger and more effective along the boards. That line could produce some effective cycling if 8 could do the same.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

unfortunately we've developed a new habit, a new mindset.

someone please sacrifice whatever animal it takes to break this luck.

how many are starting your "the end of BB" countdown?

BTW Alzner did a great job of taking the body on the first goal and Hannan did a great job of eliminating time and space for Getzlaf on the OT goal.

Posted by: natresgroup | December 15, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Hannan had a chance to maybe hit him right as he was shooting the puck but he backed off.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:35 PM

That seems to be his specialty from what I've seen of him.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

9 goals in 7 games. WHAT A JOKE.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 15, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes you just gotta take a friggin' penalty especially with less than a minute to go in the game if you can't cover the guy...

And this is the National F-ing Hockey League... there is no such thing as a moral victory.

I remember some people on here saying how encouraged they were by their play on Saturday night and what happened a day later???

Posted by: joek443 | December 15, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Carlson had to crush him. BTW, why can't Ovi do that? He's a big guy.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan


right...no one on our D can crush Getzlaf, Erskine has an outside chance. But Carlson actually made a dent whereas the rest of our D would totally have bounced off. Getzlaf is strong as an ox. Great move by him but I still think Hannan pussed out. He stopped short.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

well - some of you got what you wanted

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ |

like we had anything to do with it....

i know, blame the fans!

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:37 PM

"well - some of you got what you wanted"

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It's weird that the first thing you would do after a loss is blame other fans.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 15, 2010 9:38 PM

who said anything about blaming anyone.
see - it's that negative attitude that puts you on the defensive.
i was thinking more along the lines that there were some fans that probably had a smirk on their face because the caps lost.

if you feel like you are to blame - then that is on you

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

On the Getzlaf goal, it looked to me like Carlson was covering him and then backed off. Hannan saw that Carlson had backed off and he tried to pick up Getzlaf, but it was too late. I don't think you can leave the man with the puck when he is that close to the goal and hope that someone else picks him up.

Posted by: zmega | December 15, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Yea, even though I said I thought they played well in this game, I was just talking about their standards. You can't turn them into something they're not. I didn't expect them to look like Pitt or Philly on a good night. That won't be happening any time soon no matter how hard they try. To get to that level, you need personnel changes, coaching changes and time to learn how to do a lot of the little things that don't happen right now.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

"

I've brought that exact point up in the past. Ovechkin is considered a physical presence because of the hits he delivers but you rarely see him show strength/grit along the boards.

I know he uses an extremely curved blade which hurts a little in that area but I don't think it's just that.

Both Knuble and Backstrom are far stronger and more effective along the boards. That line could produce some effective cycling if 8 could do the same."

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But they don't even try to cycle the puck. I blame OV a lot less than I blame "They System." There is this almost stubborn refusal to cycle the puck, it's boggling and the only culprit (to me) is coaching.

Look at opposing Ds and how seriously they take us along the boards. They barely even come out to challenge, maybe one guy. The whole point of cycling is to get the Defense out of position, but the defense never comes out of the middle because they know we're not going to be on the boards for very long. They just wait for the inevitable pass back to the middle, which they take and then clear.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 15, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

If you really wanted to dissect that last play though, it goes back to Ovechkin's turnover. He tried to get the puck by Sbisa I think and lost it.

Our top lines don't adjust their entries into the off zone. They either carry it in, or they try to carry it in and lose it.

You gotta get a real strong forechecking forward on the top lines - like an Andrew Ladd. Oops, he was available too!

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This is awful.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 15, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

if you feel like you are to blame - then that is on you

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

now don't be silly. If I could control the game with my mind there would be no stopping me.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

FIRE BB and do it NOW!!! How can u put in a goalie that lets in 7 goals in 20 shots and play him the next game when u got a goalie in neuvy that is the reason the caps even had a good start to the season.I wasnt for getting rid of bb but now i call for his head.Yea the caps played ok in the first but that was it.There was no fire in em to push through and get the win.The caps almost double the shots and still lose again.That doesnt sound good for the goaltending for the caps which has mostly been varly of late.He had a good start but no real challenges and now that hes under pressure to win he folds.Caps need a new coach,gm,goalie,and 2nd line center and thins might be ok.Agree or not,its how i feel but its the facts.Its your move Ted!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | December 15, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

"if you feel like you are to blame - then that is on you"

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I don't feel like I'm to blame. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that I don't think "wishing hard enough" is a factor in whether we win or not.

I was just commenting on the fact that your first comment after a loss had nothing to do with the game, but rather other fans.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 15, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

oh here we go, a new trend.. to blame on a player that he didn't do something right or made a mistake, stuff happens.
problem is not that one or another player made a mistake, it is BB that doesn't know how to coach!!

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 15, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Kevin Dineen or Hartley? I thought they played pretty well but still. Seven in a row.

Posted by: pkme | December 15, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

if ATL wins they will have almost the same record as us.. wow. this is sad.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 15, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

George, once again, please, PLEASE start calling other coaches. hope to Mr.Bob Hartley will be first on that list... I am not even sure that every coach would want to take a job with caps.

btw, press conference is a joke as usual. BB been saying kind of frustrating for 2 weeks now, but nothing changes!

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 15, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

George, once again, please, PLEASE start calling other coaches. hope to Mr.Bob Hartley will be first on that list... I am not even sure that every coach would want to take a job with caps.

btw, press conference is a joke as usual. BB been saying kind of frustrating for 2 weeks now, but nothing changes!

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 15, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Montreal just scored 2 to tie Philly.

I'd love for this team to lose a few, fire the coach, have McPhee grudgingly hire a different type of coach, then this team fights the rest of the way and enters the playoffs on the road. They may get out of the 1st round with some battle-hardened adversity. And I don't buy the "they'll be out of gas" argument. This team can only get better suited to playoff hockey when they get knocked around a little bit. I do believe most of em have some pride, as buried as it may be.

If McPhee had any honor, he'd fire himself before he'd can Boudreau.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Anyone still think this is just a little temporary slump? How about the Feinstein solution of bringing in a new goalie? Any takers?

Posted by: zmega | December 15, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I did it. Didn't watch a play of the game! I'm breaking my CAPs jones! Don't even know when the next game is. Now I just need a hobby to fill those empty hours.

Posted by: festus75 | December 15, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

The Caps played just well enough for BB to keep his job for now. Another blowout loss may have sealed his fate. If this talent doesn't score, you've got a big problem...

Posted by: kcbrichmond | December 15, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

I was just commenting on the fact that your first comment after a loss had nothing to do with the game, but rather other fans.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 15, 2010 9:47 PM

yeah - i guess that is pretty sad - isn't it?
after what i've been reading here the last couple of days - i let it get to me.
is that just a moment of weakness or my 'inner dark side' coming to the surface? :D

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

if ATL wins they will have almost the same record as us.. wow. this is sad.

Posted by: rachel216


Atlanta has been able to taste 1st place for 2 weeks now. Their play has reflected it. Good for them. More competition in this div is whats needed.


" I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that I don't think "wishing hard enough" is a factor in whether we win or not."

that's kinda how i feel too. Its an irrelevant argument. Or as Joey would say, its a 'moo' point.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 15, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Would have been a different game if those goals had gone in the first period. You have to finish your chances.

Carlson looks to be as tall as Getzlaf but not as strong in the legs. Next time.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 15, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

gratefuldid: he favors varly.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 15, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for a coaching change at this point but seriously Bob Hartley???

The guy's been outta job for 3 years and how many coaching vacancies have there been since???

GET REAL!!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 15, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Cstanton.

GMGM is not that bad. Good drafter bad trader. I still think he is a decent GM. However they probably should have let BB go after Montreal. BB is not a bad coach but he is not the guy who is going to push these guys across the finish line.

Posted by: pkme | December 15, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Caps D looked a lot better, we had scoring chances, now we need to learn to notlet the frustration get to us in the 3rd when we should be up by more.

Don't give up Caps! You'll get there.

Posted by: capscoach | December 15, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Actually I should have said pin him to the wall. That way he can't go out there and do what he do. Next time Carlson.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 15, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

POSTGAME THOUGHTS:
Wow I have to say some of the previous posts on here are laughable. If some of you don't know how to take a losing streak. Shut your mouth - get off the board and stay off until further notice.

This team came out and played a patient defensive game and the opportunities came BUT you have Ovie hitting the goal post, Laich's would-be second goal being swept off the line and Backstrom's shot somehow hits where Hiller's stick is. They bury those chances - it's game over and you all would be sitting here not saying some of the things you do. It's pathetic.

Anaheim walked away with two points they didn't earn but quite simply the continued to be snakebitten Caps could bury their chances and Anaheim took advantage.

Varlamov had no chance on either goal. Getzlaf spins off Carlson but Hannan was positioned in front of the net. He didn't have enough time to react to even try to step up to hit him - at least from what I could tell. If I'm wrong so be it.

The offense is there it just can't finish as the streak continues.

Sure they walked away with a point and yes it's frustrating but this team just has to continue to fight through it. This by far was the best I've seen this team play defensively and patient. Again a few of those chances go away and you'll be talking about oh how complete of a 60 minute game this was and blah blah blah. You can't have it both ways. Quit whining and shut up. This streak continues and the guys come back out and look to get it done in Beantown on Saturday.

It's been a one point night. Blah.

ICE BREAKERS GOAL SHAKERS

Posted by: Jonathan6 | December 15, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Not my idea but Dineen seems interesting. It would be a compelling choice. The Caps are getting stale under BB's leadership. Time for a change.

Posted by: pkme | December 15, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

i think they're just a little down because schultz still has a boo-boo

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

But they don't even try to cycle the puck. I blame OV a lot less than I blame "They System." There is this almost stubborn refusal to cycle the puck, it's boggling and the only culprit (to me) is coaching.

Look at opposing Ds and how seriously they take us along the boards. They barely even come out to challenge, maybe one guy. The whole point of cycling is to get the Defense out of position, but the defense never comes out of the middle because they know we're not going to be on the boards for very long. They just wait for the inevitable pass back to the middle, which they take and then clear.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 15, 2010 9:44 PM

Very good points. I did say that I think part of it is coaching in an earlier post. I guess what I'm saying regarding Ovechkin is that in whatever few instances I see him trying to cycle or win a battle along the boards, he doesn't at all look like the strong, physical presence that he is labeled to be by so many.

It would/will be intereting to see how 8 can perform in that area in the future if and when a coach demands more of that from the top line. I'm sure he can be better that he is now.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, the Caps lost because of bad luck, woulda shoulda, coulda, etc. ...

It's called denial, isn't it?

Posted by: zmega | December 15, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Crowd hasn't been that dead since Hanlon was coach.

At least I get to watch the HBO thing at 7 pm local time on HBOE.

Tell you all what - blame it on me as I had white wine leftover from yesterday and we were having sausage and I didn't feel like opening red wine over a stupid superstition.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 15, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Congrats Ducks, keep that winless streak going. Soon the Caps will fire BB and maybe GMGM!

Posted by: chriscaps | December 15, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm over this already. What are the Caps chances in Boston?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 15, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: joek443 | December 15, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

I think he doesn't want to coach, his job at RDS Canada pays enough... I don't know of anyone else who can coach this team, no way Hitch would work, he hates european players.

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 15, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

My God but Crosby's lips are red. Cherry red. Deep, cherry red. It's almost enough to think he was put here by aliens.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 15, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jonathan6 | December 15, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

be careful with drinking too much kool-aid. You would have some point if we had 2 games losing, but our situation is much MUCH worse than that. Back 2 Back this week-end won't be pretty for sure

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 15, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

"It would/will be intereting to see how 8 can perform in that area in the future if and when a coach demands more of that from the top line. I'm sure he can be better that he is now."

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I think he'll be fine when the next coach comes in who emphasizes these very basic hockey fundamentals. I'm convinced that OV *can* do anything, but he's hamstrung by almost following the coach to a fault.

That very last play of regulation, where he hipchecked his man into the boards, got position and got the puck up to a Knuble who either wasn't expecting it or just plain couldn't convert was the kind of thing that can be done by very few players in this league.

That said, I unfairly blame this game on Matt Bradley. I counted no less than two times where, if he was in position, he would have had a wide-open goal. :)

Also, it's sad that we're at this point where players get praised for this, but Props to Mike Green for looking like he gives a squat out there. He was hitting people, staying at home for the most part, and laid out there on that PK late in the 3rd. He actually played like a Defenseman tonight rather than a 4th forward.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 15, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

And that's the kind of stuff you're going to see from 20-year-old defensemen no matter how good they're future/potential appears to be.

The worst part about McPhee going with so much youth at so many crucial positions is that we don't have anything close to the right type of veterans and apparently coaching around them to pull something like that off.

I understand that there has been young key players on recent Cup winners in the cap era but without looking at actually numbers, has any recent team been this young as far as 4 of their 6 d-men, both of their goales (and the 3rd option) and one of their key centers (Johansson).

Remember, even Green and Schultz are young for defensemen.

Like I've said a number of times since the offseason, that's the roster makeup I expect of a team just beginning a rebuild, not one that is supposedly contending, at least in the eyes of the GM that is running things.

I also said that by not doing anything to address things in the summer, I didn't think McPhee would be able to do enough before the deadline. That has yet to be determined but even if he pulls off 1 or 2 solid deals (which is far from a guarantee given his recent track record), it still may not be enough to fix this roster for this season.

Then again, we're trying to be competitive for the long-term or however Ted/McPhee are putting... that's starting to look like never good enough.

Meanwhile, the teams that are actually winning when it matters are taking completely different approaches to roster contruction.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 15, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

....probably not very good. tim thomas will probably have 45/45 saves kinda night.

Posted by: rachel216 | December 15, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

this isn't a criticism.....just an outloud question to myself.

where was the 3rd period we had in that game at chicago last year when we needed it tonight????

we were down 3-0 to the eventual cup champions, in their building, without Ovi, in a game that meant absolutely nothing...... and crushed the Hawks in the 3rd with nothing more than just all out "grit" and hustle and "want to".

Tonight we've lost 6 in a row, are in a total funk and tailspin....and couldnt muster 1/20th of the performance we had in that game last year.

Something is wrong.

Posted by: capitalsfan47802 | December 15, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is not even a close second to Crosby when it comes to skill and dedication. Crosby has won the Cup and won the Olympics. Ovechkin? Zip, nada, NOTHING! So stop the marketing machine, Ted. We don't believe you. This team is not an elite team, especially with Bruce Boudreau at the helm. You are going to see the air knocked out of the Caps sails, little by little. While the kids, early in the season, wanted to watch a Caps game, there just isn't that much excitement about this team, LOSERS of SEVEN straight. There's something wrong, and it is spelled UNDERACHIEVERS. I think once people figured out how to play the Caps, BB has to respond. I don't think he's capable of figuring this out, judging by the play of this team. Washington should be used to losers though. Welcome to the WORST sports city in America. Thanks Ted, for the memories. There certainly isn't much to celebrate this year.

Posted by: Almazar80 | December 15, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is not even a close second to Crosby when it comes to skill and dedication. Crosby has won the Cup and won the Olympics. Ovechkin? Zip, nada, NOTHING! So stop the marketing machine, Ted. We don't believe you. This team is not an elite team, especially with Bruce Boudreau at the helm. You are going to see the air knocked out of the Caps sails, little by little. While the kids, early in the season, wanted to watch a Caps game, there just isn't that much excitement about this team, LOSERS of SEVEN straight. There's something wrong, and it is spelled UNDERACHIEVERS. I think once people figured out how to play the Caps, BB has to respond. I don't think he's capable of figuring this out, judging by the play of this team. Washington should be used to losers though. Welcome to the WORST sports city in America. Thanks Ted, for the memories. There certainly isn't much to celebrate this year.

Posted by: Almazar80 | December 15, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

@beforeitstoolate - with all due respect as long as I've been following this team there isn't any kool-aid drinking going on here. We are talking about the game tonight. Not the past 6 they've lost. Yea they lost but how they lost - different instances. Had they lost this with little to no effort - I'd say there is something deeper going on.

We shall see how this team responds to their coach. If this streak reaches 10 games or more - than GMGM will have to think about doing something.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | December 15, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

....probably not very good. tim thomas will probably have 45/45 saves kinda night.

Posted by: rachel216

About 40 of those shots will go right to his chest and will be shot from the top of the circles.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 15, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else think this HBO 24/7 show is really embarrassing for the team?

Posted by: eorr53 | December 15, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Actually felt a little sorry for BB tonight. In the post game minute they showed on CSN, he was mumbling something about getting over a certain number of points in the standings and how hard it is. Made me think the stress has really overtaken him.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | December 15, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Not that the seven game losing streak isn't embarrassing already. I just feel like this is piling on to the stinking heap right now.

Posted by: eorr53 | December 15, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Flash just scored 2 PPG in less than 2 minutes. I bet George McPhee just gained a new fan.

Dear George,

Thanks for trading me to the Avs! I love their system of hockey. I get more ice time, and I score more as well.
Sincerely,
Tomas Fleischmann

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | December 15, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Flash just had a hatrick! Has he ever had one while with the Caps? The man has been on fire since being traded there.

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | December 15, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Watching 24/7, BB's speeches between periods aren't too inspiring or motivational. I'm not sure the team cares about what he has to say at this point. I wasn't a believer that BB had to go but after seeing how he handled the first goal in that FL game in intermission, I'm not sure he can turn this mess around and has the team behind him.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 15, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually respecting the Caps coaches a little more watching the show. The coaches are telling the players the same things we are saying.

"Pull up your socks."

It can't be Hannan's fault - he just got here.

I guess I'm thinking this show couldn't come at a better time. And, look, let's be serious - none of us live under this kind of microscope. We all have pressure on the job, but not like that.

More than anything, from this show, the Caps like grit. It's that simple.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 15, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

something needs to be done pregame to lighten this group up. bruce should give the pregame speech with his shirt off.

Posted by: thickman22 | December 15, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Lack grit. They "lack" grit. Not, "like" grit. That was those Freudian slips. But it just shows I couldn't type a word properly.

"Jesus F-kn Christ, Tom! You can't type one f-kn word? What the f-ks wrong with you? Are you f-kn feeling sorry for yourself because you can't type one f-kn word?"

I have getting mad during this losing streak. "Why don't they just play the right way?" Now I feel sorry for them. I guess this means cstanton will tell me I'm a wuss. That I'm not tough enough to take the punches.

At least I can drink three beers and stand up!

:)

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 15, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

At least I can drink three beers and stand up!

:)

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 15, 2010 11:09 PM

that's one more than me before i'd need a nap

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 15, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

One thing I have to say is Ovechkin doesn't look very captainlike. He just sits there on the bench with a lost look while Boudreau tries to implore them on.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 15, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

(really enjoyed 24/7, kudos to HBO. Those guys sure are lucky to get paid to play the most fun game there is to play.
I was surprised and a bit disapointed though, that after Ovie's fight in the Rags game, each guy congradulated the other, with a "Way to Go", as if the fight was just for show, that is OV didn't sound piss"d.

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Posted by: 23lil | December 15, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't have HBO. Any more details of the episode?

Posted by: kcbrichmond | December 15, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

9 goals in 7 games. WHAT A JOKE.

Posted by: rachel216

Now that was a slanted comment. 7 goals in the one game was a joke. The defense against Anaheim was good.

The overall play was good. The Caps had many more GOOD scoring chances than the Ducks. That is the most important factor when determining who outplayed who. Unfortunately the Caps didn't cash in on their numerous scoring chances.

But lets be realistic, if fans are going to complain about a solid defensive effort that only allowed one regulation goal, then they will be complaining no matter what happens.

I think the Bradley, Steckel and Laich line played very well and handled their role perfectly. Hopefully we will see more of that.

It was a solid game, if the Caps still had Flash and his point scoring ability maybe they would have won in regulation.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 15, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Flash for the Hatter!

Posted by: kcbrichmond | December 15, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

The best part of the HBo series is when oVI is talking to the refs after the Semin cross check and the Ref says he F cut him. OVI reply was will maybe he has sensitive skin. Just classic. I bet if the Pens were losing their locker room would look just as dreary. I disagree I think OVI seems Captain like. Most of the guys after a fight unless they really hate one another say crap like what OVi said to Dubinski.

Posted by: pkme | December 15, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Another thing is I always hated Pascual DuPois (you know what I call him) and now they make him look like a human with the four kids.

OK, is it the conspiracy thing that they love the Pens to show DuPois and Cooke with their kids and not with the Caps?

Oh, OK, they could have showed Nylander with his six kids...maybe not.

BTW, mrstominsocal1 could never watch that "Deadwood" show with me. I love Westerns and she told to watch it but then she couldn't watch because of all the F words. Now she hears Boudreau and all she can say is, "No wonder they don't listen to him."

Also, they have better music when doing Pens, like that 70s song don't know name, "Get Right Back"? Conspiracy?

And what's with the Pens having a player named Mark LeTestTube?

This show makes it sound like the Caps coaches are really fed up with the players.

My theory on the F word is if you never use it and then use it once, it is very effective. Like if Obama said, "Congress needs to get off it's f-kn a$$ and pass the tax bill," people would take notice.

Oh well. It wasn't as bad as Sunday. Still, something needs to change. They are shell-shocked. And it's just a game. They need to remember how it is to play.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 15, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

This was the first game I had been to since we got Hannan and he looked like the worst player on the ice, by far. He had at least two really bad turnovers, got beat to pretty much every puck and was once again out for a game winning goal. My brother and I were both talking about how much we hated the trade leaving the rink then on the metro I look at the other scores and see what Flash had done tonight and it just make me feel even worse. If ice time was decided by how you played Hannan would never dress. I would rather have Sloan out there or Fahey. Hannan is just too slow and unlike Erskine can't make up for it by playing physical.

On the plus side I really liked the third line tonight of Laich, Steckel, and Bradley. Had the only goal and should have had a second if not for a quick stick at the goal line. They also were real good on the forcheck.

Posted by: icehammer97 | December 15, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Folks Mcphee has never been a good trader. Good drafter. Flash sounds like he is being used correctly and not forcing the issue and making him play center. His play started going down hill once The Caps did this. I guess letting Belanger go was not a great idea.

Posted by: pkme | December 15, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

@sgm

rachel said 9 goals in 7 games. WHAT A JOKE.

Close enough. How about THAT'S PATHETIC!

Scoring 1.29 goals per game is not going to win you many games regardless how the defense plays.

Tonight and Sunday their average is 0.48 goals per game (includes the 4 minutes of OT).

Unfortunately, the glass is not partially full but almost empty.

Posted by: puckman | December 15, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

It was a solid game, if the Caps still had Flash and his point scoring ability maybe they would have won in regulation.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 15, 2010 11:28 PM

sgm: Do you want my honest opinion of that statement?

It was one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

OK, who really thinks Caps put forth a solid effort tonight?

It was half a solid effort. Then again the Ducks only put forth about 1/3rd of a solid effort. Out of 64 minutes, the Ducks played for like 20. The were there for the plucking.

Nobody on the Caps though was willing to "pull up his socks."

I don't know what world you live in sgm. I'm guessing you're a social worker or something. Holding hands, dancinig and singing "Kumbaya" doesn't count as "solid game." Did you see the segment with the Pens? There was blood. A solid effort in hockey means blood. Right now with the Caps we have tears and some sweat, but no blood.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 16, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

We were all beating up on Flash and I mean everyone on here Could it be that he was not used correctly. The hockey pundits thought the AVS got the better of that trade. I guess we will never know.

Posted by: pkme | December 16, 2010 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Carlson finally registers a hit in a game (2) and gets his first point in ages...go figure. Why does he always seem to be on the ice when a particularly-deflating goal is scored against us?

Poti played much better being paired w/Erskine again (another strong, physical game turned in by #4).

Welcome back, Green. Wish he and Alzner would've defended better on the pp goal allowed. Why did both of them stand 3 feet in front of Lupol/Getzlaf and leave Varly w/a two-on-o down low?

Hannan? Like Corvo last year, he won't be able to play his way out of the lineup so long as BB is the coach.

Beagle and Gordon, but no DJK? Funny how the Ducks were able to work Sutton and Parros onto their 4th line. Aside from Erskine giving the business behind the net after a whistle to Lupol, I didn't see any abrasiveness in the Caps whatsoever.

Anyone want 4 tickets to the game in Boston? They're in the "all you can eat section" (no jab, saoti,)

It's all becoming clear to me: my two favorite teams, a Saturday night. The Caps get smoked, Bradley gets thumped and the sight of his blood sends Beantown's fans into a frenzy. Erskine battles Thornton to a draw, the only saving grace in an otherwise humiliating game.

CapRuins...

BB canned before the next game. YOU HEARD IT FROM ME FIRST.

CapRuin

Posted by: vermontcaps | December 16, 2010 12:13 AM | Report abuse

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