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Tonight's lineup: Thrashers at Caps

Michal Neuvirth will start in net for the Capitals tonight and will be opposed by Chris Mason for the Thrashers. Tom Poti, D.J. King, Marcus Johansson are the scratches. After missing the past three games with an upper-body injury, Mike Green will return to the lineup for the Caps.

Forwards
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble
Laich-Perreault-Semin
Chimera-Fleischmann-Fehr
Hendricks-Steckel-Beagle

Defense
Schultz-Green
Erskine-Carlson
Sloan-Alzner

Goal
Neuvirth
Sabourin

By Katie Carrera  | October 23, 2010; 7:08 PM ET
Categories:  Atlanta Thrashers, Lineups  
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Comments

anybody else afraid to post?

whats goin on around here?

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Green hasn't taken a shift yet.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Posting the night's lineup at 7:08? Man, I miss Tarik.

Posted by: mozartbooks | October 23, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I thought everyone went to the game or decided to Tweet.

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

be careful, there still may be an "open thread"

...you just never know!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Green may be dressed but he is not healthy. Your #1 D has no shifts almost half way through the first. Not a healthy player.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

More Perreault, please.

His speed is a needed asset to our forward lines.

McPhee needs to find a way to move either Steckel or Gordon and let Johansson develop as the 3C.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I guess Green is the new hockey version of a special teams player.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Green isn't healthy enough to play at all if he is only going to be used on the PP.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Sloan is a disaster. Looks like he should be in the ECHL.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

this offense is gonna be average this year.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 23, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

We looked like we skipped the preseason.

So many turnovers in our own zone already.

...and out of sync in the offensive zone.

Its still early (in the season and game), but I need a pick-me-up!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Bad giveaway their by Perreault but he's been playing AHL hockey so far this season. I like the idea of him staying up.

And Sloan is just a nightmare with the puck in his own end. He lacks composure and vision. It's not just that he doesn't get consistent playing time, imo. Even when he gets lots of consecutive games, you still see the same mistakes. He's not an NHL defenseman.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

@tmac2yao IDK Perreault had a horrible giveaway on his last shift.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

* Still forcing too many passes and shots
* Not enough good movement without the puck
* Getting outworked along the boards
* Turnovers in the defense zone

There are glimmers of a good hockey team, but right now we're not playing well.

Posted by: Raber | October 23, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

What ever happen to tonight's thread.

Posted by: instinct227 | October 23, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I've seen Fleischmann, Johansson, Ovechkin, Laich, etc... with horrible giveaways all season.

Nobody's perfect and he's been playing AHL hockey for the last few weeks.

I say give him time.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

oh good, more PK practice...

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

To be clear, I just like what Perreault could add to this largely big, heavy set of forwards.

If he's making those mistakes on a consistent basis, that would be a problem.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

At least they only gave 2 minutes for that. Slater did kind of lower his head there and made that a bit more dangerous (was definitely a penalty though).

Posted by: Raber | October 23, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

...and practice is over...

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Being outshot 12-4. This team is an abomination.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Alzner needed to take the body sooner.

He was in between looking for the puck and clearing the crease.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

The Caps need to stop giving up the first goal of the game. Not a good come back team so far this season.

Posted by: instinct227 | October 23, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

This team needs a couple of bounces to go its way, and I mean YESTERDAY!

To quote the SHERMANATOR "Confidence is LOW..."

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Being outshot 12-4. This team is an abomination.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 7:42 PM

Have faith in McPhee, please. He only needs another decade to figure out. His results warrant patience. We've won an entire playoff series by the slmmest of margins in the last 12 years!

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

why are we so much worse than we were last year? i'll be happy with the 8th seed. we look like sh**.

SOG are 13-4 ATL. And thrashers played last night!!!!!!!! WTF.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 23, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

For some reason I think something is amiss. Kinda like the Lakers not playing until Jan. when making it to the playoffs are on the line or something. I'm not really buying the whole "teams know how to play against us" theory.

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Man, they don't look too good at all and this is against a team that's supposed to be tired. I haven't noticed anything resembling a scoring chance for the Caps. The passes aren't getting through, maybe they should just dump it in the corner and go mix it up with big Byf.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

This team needs a couple of bounces to go its way, and I mean YESTERDAY!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr
Good teams make their on luck. The offense looks exactly the same as it did against MTL.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

This team needs a couple of bounces to go its way, and I mean YESTERDAY!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr
Good teams make their own luck. The offense looks exactly the same as it did against MTL.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

It's still beyond comprehension that Leonsis nor McPhee made any drastic changes this offseason.

It will take a regular season failure, or a team that started their rebuild later than us surpassing us, to get done what needs to be done.

And the first thing that needs to be done is bring in a new GM... any one... to bring a new philosophy. Let him evalute the coaching and personnel and go from there. McPhee ain't guiding this ship nowhere.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

The shots aren't getting through either.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

More accurately, any bad team of recent years surpassing us...

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Uh, why is Steckel not a scratch. He looks so slow out there. Where is DJK? BB just doesn't get it.

Posted by: StanleyCap | October 23, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

We're one of the biggest, heaviest teams in the league yet one of the softest.

What a horrible combination of traits.

If you're big, you better be tough and gritty to make up for your lack of little speedsters.

I've seen little speedy teams that look tougher. Sad.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if we are in year 7 yet of Ted's 5 year plan?

Posted by: StanleyCap | October 23, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I wish Ovi and Semin would try something different other than the curl and leave the puck behind. That's getting old real fast. Where are the passes off the wall to themselves and the scoring while sliding along the ice? I'm missing those days.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if we are in year 7 yet of Ted's 5 year plan?

Posted by: StanleyCap | October 23, 2010 7:58 PM

This single biggest flaw in that plan was the man he chose to be most responsible for executing it... GMGM.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Did you see Shultz just trying to tie up the stick of the Thrasher player in the crease instead of knocking him on his rear. He only let him have 3 whacks at the puck.

Posted by: StanleyCap | October 23, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

That was str8 up nasty

Posted by: Dizruption | October 23, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

bounce #1

gracias

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

3rd Caps goal this season where the other teams goalie get the 1st assist.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

semin is the man

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 23, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

4 shots in one period!!!!!!!!!!!!the russian machine is broke

Posted by: wendel2 | October 23, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Carlson's had some really, really, really bad moments this season.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Interesting non-Caps note. No Kovy for NJ listed as a healthy scratch. Regret for signing the $100 million man?

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

The PK isn't winning battles along the boards like they were early in the season.

We had a 2-on-1 on the boards and couldn't win the puck.

Seconds later... goal.

Was that Carlson just hanging out behind Kane?

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

3 D on the ice and none of them touch the guy in front of the net. *shakes head*

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

golly...

is that Sloan on the ice on a goal against?

thats just bad luck!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin 6 hits no shots.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

can we EARN A PP?

...if only to justify Green's presence on the bench?

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

If Green can't actually play the team needs to bring up someone else to play D. With only 5 out there they just look tired.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

We are being doubled up in SOG.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Seems like bad strategy dressing Green only to have him sit on the bench all night.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Carlson's having one bad night here.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

and can I just give a shot out to NEUVY?

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

5 guys standing around the outside again

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't think that one counts Green kicked it in.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh Greenie. Come on refs.

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I imagine Green dressed and then aggravated his injury during warm-ups. There's no other explanation for his lack of playing time tonight.

Posted by: Terptwin | October 23, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

That's definitely a kicking motion.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Hit another skate on the way in to

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

And then, of course, I see where we finally earned a power play and Green scored. OK, he's a designated special teams guy tonight. We'll take whatever we can get!

Posted by: Terptwin | October 23, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Good call.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Clear kick.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter if it hits something else on the way in.

The right call was made even if it sucks.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

The problem is...

NOBODY IS TALKIN' ABOUT NEUVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

@jdove80 doesn't matter it has to hit a stick

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

OV is very angry

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

We've given up lots of breakaways in the last 2 games.

Boston could've put up 5 or 6 if not for Varlamov last game.

Neuvirth's made a few breakaway saves this season, too. His rebound control has been sketchy tonight though.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Great check by Ovie. Has anyone seen Carlson skate a stride going toward his own zone tonight? Every time it seems he gets beat and just glides back.

@WTF yeah if it wasn't for him this would be a blowout already.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Neuvy is savin our bacon.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | October 23, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

So if it hits a stick after the kick, it's good?

Didn't realize that.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

@jdove80 doesn't matter it has to hit a stick

Posted by: icehammer97
Well aware, I thought another cap hit it with his skate to but it was the ATL defender.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

That was a better power play was it not? Neuvy is great, holding up the team.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Guess that makes sense actually. You can pass with your skate. I guess even an unintentional deflection off a stick is enough.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

My bad, misunderstood your earlier comment, jdove.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

@jdove80 Ok, I didn't know with the number of people here who might not know all the rules 100% I was just making sure.

@tmac. I know if it hits a Caps stick it would have been a goal I am not 100% about if it had been a Thrasher stick it hit.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Knuble is making opposing goalies look good.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

good job #4

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Erskine just beat Buff down

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

OMG...Neuvy is hurt.

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

What a BS move by Buff. That has to be at least a 5.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

5 min charge on 33

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Good get the D-bag out of here.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm so getting an Erskine jersey!!

Posted by: guer_j | October 23, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Good call. Blatant charging.

Good response by Erskine.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Nicely called, iceham.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | October 23, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Did Erskine get a instigating call?

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Nice John, hope you caught him a couple of good ones on the way down. What a pos!

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

"an instigating"

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Props for big John getting his shots in and only get 2 minutes for it.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Caps seem to have gotten some good luck from talking about Leukemia and Lymphoma Society just before period 2. As soon as Craig Laughlin finishes talking about it, as if on cue, the goalie just gives Semin the puck and he hammers it home!

But it's true--on average one person dies of a blood cancer every 10 minutes. Many of these people are kids--as Al Koken said it's the leading killer of people under 20 (I think he's referring to just the U.S. here though, but not completely sure). It's incredibly awful. Just heartbreaking seeing these kids stuck in hospitals and such when they're really supposed to be growing up, playing, etc., especially when you're a parent of one of them.

Remember George Michael, famous sportscaster? Yeah, the person ESPN Sportscenter should be thanking every day for paving the way. He died of lymphoma recently. I'm sure he would really appreciate the Capitals trying to do something about this crap.

There is hope though that in the very near future things will not be like this. We really don't have to just put up with this and hope it doesn't happen to us or someone we love.

If you want to help the Capitals reach their goal of raising $5,000 tonight, maybe get a little good luck of your own, and you have even as little as $5.00 laying around, please go to www.lls.org/capsfans and give. You won't miss $5.00, but all those little donations really add up. And it's tax-deductible anyway.

The Capitals seem to have only raised $160 so far of the $5,000 they had hoped to raise tonight. This does not look good, Caps fans.

I am not an LLS employee, although I do occasionally volunteer for them. I am getting absolutely nothing from saying this to y'all. I am an off-and-on regular here at Capitals Insider--some of y'all may remember me even though this is my first post of the year.

Please. For the dying kids, and so the Capitals don't look bad. You can come up with $5.00. It is really easy, and it is tax-deductible--just find a credit card, fill out the form, and you're done.

www.lls.org/capsfans

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 23, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Let's score 2 to start the third boys!

Posted by: Dizruption | October 23, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

The Caps cannot score. I know they have a great reputation of being a great scoring team, but their in their last 11 games they have not scored more than 2 goals in regulation in 10 of them(assuming they will not score more than 2 regulation goals in this game as well). I wonder if any of the other 29 NHL teams have been as bad in the scoring department over their past 11 games.

An 11 game sample size is not a small sample size either. I am honestly worried that this is no loner an aberration and may be a trend.

Their last two goals have been gifts from the opposing team's goalies making mental mistakes and turning the puck over.

Yes, the Caps can create many chances, but they can't score.

You are who you are, and over the past 11 games the Caps are a team that cannot score more than 2 goals in regulation time. That isn't good.

I hope it changes, but I think it is something of serious concern.

Posted by: sgm3 | October 23, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Good for Erskine, but what were Chimmy and Carlson doing? Running the goalie is a big no no, one of them should have the mitts off already. Soft.

Posted by: Fletch22 | October 23, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

@stevie, Thank you. As a part time goalie plays like that really get under my skin. If it were me he would also get at least another game or two. It looked like he even stuck his knee out at the last second to go knee on knee which since the Caps don't have their normal backup would have been a real advantage to knock out Neuvy.

Posted by: icehammer97 | October 23, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

So 11 games defines a team?

Posted by: pokerface1208 | October 23, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

what are you going to do now BB? Let's see scratch DJK...let's see bring up MP and Beagle, keep Flush in the line-up with Sloan and Steckel. ok why is DJK being punished because the goal scorers can't score goals and BB can't coach a team full of "superstars"? BB has got to go now, it's over for this bumb, bring in a real coach and send this tool back to the minors! wait a minute...BB is about to pull something from his sleeve...oh never mind it's just a sandwich! Same ole BB no surprises here and to think I used love this guy!

Posted by: PhilHelmuth | October 23, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

And, yes, I agree it was a kick and the ruling was correct.

Although I don't buy the rationale for the rule as it exists right now. I believe players should be permitted to kick the puck in, so long as their skates don't actually leave the ice during the kick.

I asked the NHL referees about the reason for this rule at their official website they have (you can find it if you look carefully at the NHL website), and the ref that replied said that the ultimate reason for the rule is for safety (just like it is for the no goals off high sticks rule)--they don't want to encourage players making kicking motions and possibly slicing someone open.

But if you have to leave your kicking skate on the ice, I think you get just as much safety, and you get more goals. The rule as written just makes it easier on the goalies if they can concentrate more on stick blades and not as much on skates. But that isn't what we want, I don't think. I want more goals.

Goals like Green's can still be kind of pretty in their own way. You're still seeing the puck go across the line. On the other hand, there is definitely something ugly about a puck going into the net and it not being counted. Unless there's a very good reason for a puck going in not counting as a goal, it should be a goal. When it comes to kicks where the skate never comes off the ice, there's no good reason those shouldn't be counted.

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 23, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Well Mr Semin has at least found a way to score

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

That Semin guy sux.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | October 23, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

ALEXANDER SEMIN = CONTRACT YEAR OPPORTUNIST

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | October 23, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Semin is terrorizing this goalie.

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: instinct227 | October 23, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Haha OV put someone in the bench

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Haha OV put someone in the bench

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Ladd mouths "Boom!" as he goes over the boards and into the bench courtesy of Ovi. Pretty funny.

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | October 23, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I think somone up here said the Caps haven't scored more than 2 goals in their last eleven games. Didn't we score more than that against the NJD just recently?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Bruce Boudreau the coach with the best record in the entire NHL since the day he started coaching the Capitals? I am pretty sure that's still true, despite the three losses so far. I think he's 145-59-28 at the moment, regular season, for 318 points in 232 games, which is 1.37 points per game. Ignoring the overtime losses which I guess the NHL is determined to continue treating like ties used to be for some reason, the winning percentage is .711.

Yes, the question is could another coach have done even better with these players? Sure, it is possible. The trouble is trying to figure out which of the handful of guys it is. Do you fire a proven winner for a small chance at a small improvement? I doubt it.

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 23, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

BBs playoff record isn't so hot. Isn't that really what matters at this point? It's a different game and he has to be able to adapt, which he has yet to show.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | October 23, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

More Perreault, please.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Hats for Semin

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Jizzy is getting it done. Hat trick!

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

What a pass!!!!!

Posted by: Dizruption | October 23, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Sorry but MP > MJ

Posted by: LloydChristmas | October 23, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Find a way to move Steckel or Gordon:

8-19-22
14-85-28
21-90-16
...

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

OV ran out of people to hit so he hit the goalie.

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, tmac.

(FL Caps - sgm wrote 10 out of 11 with 2 or fewer.)

Posted by: stevie_in_gp | October 23, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Garbage

Posted by: Dizruption | October 23, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, the level of competition increases in the playoffs, and if you happen to get paired against a team that presents a bad matchup for yours, it makes things a little tough. There isn't a very large sample size of playoff games from which to judge Boudreau's performance--he's 13-15 in 28 playoff games. And there is certainly room to argue that the Flyers series in 2008 would've gone the other way had the officiating been just a little more evenhanded and a little better. And that team was on a serious roll until it bumped into that situation--who knows how far they could have gone?

I don't know if Boudreau is an incredibly great coach though. I'm not smart enough or hockey-knowledgeable enough to really be able to tell. He might not be for all I know. The problem is finding someone who has a very good chance of being significantly better, waiting to see if the gamble pays off, and if it doesn't, what then, and what players are still here then?

I don't consider the playoff record, all by itself, to be that important of a factor at all. So, I completely disagree that it is "what matters at this point." It matters not very much, from my point of view. Not unless he actually did certain bad coaching maneuvers in the playoffs.

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 23, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

That call on OV was a BS call. Had they not already booted Buff for the same thing the call woulda never happened.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | October 23, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

blehhhh...

Posted by: jdove80 | October 23, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Laich probably could've done something better than try to fire that shot through a defender at the empty net.

Oh well, it happens.

19 or 4 had to pick up Kane.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Just saw the replay... it was definitely 19 that should've been aware of Kane.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Nice 4-on-4 play other than the 1 odd-man rush we gave up.

That was an area of weakness last season.

Carlson and hopefully Perreault could be 2 players that help us in that area.

Posted by: tmac2yao | October 23, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't the prettiest game, but I really like that it was hard fought for 3 periods! Lots of things to critique, but I think they took a step in the right direction tonight as far as effort goes. The offense also looked better...u can always count on MP to have a good first game!

On another note...what was with the refs! Greens skate did not leave the ice, the call on Ovie was BS.

Posted by: capscoach | October 23, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Tomorrow's headline: Semin all over the ice. Semin Semin everywhere!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | October 23, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Hatess gonna hate the flash kiss parade!!

Posted by: guer_j | October 23, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Kovalchuck was a healthy scratch for NJ...that is ballsy scratching a guy you are paying 10mil to.

Posted by: capscoach | October 23, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Again, another 1st period to shake one's head at in disbelief, but I loved the Semin show and Flash in OT. Semin has been playing a much more physical game and Flash has been fairly consistent. Will our fair-weather fans still be spewing for a trade if they keep this up?

Posted by: gonchpup | October 23, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Second the vote on more Perreault.

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 23, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Atlanta is definitely a tougher match-up this year. Consider this, they had just played 3 games in 4 nights and were playing back-to-back games tonight, yet they took the Caps into OT. I know Green and Poti were out but surely the Caps should have done better than that. A win is a win I suppose but I feel like I've just kissed my sister.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | October 23, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I love Perrault, but remember that he has a history of having a great 1st showing but then fizzling a bit after a few games.

Posted by: capscoach | October 23, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Agree that the call on Ovechkin was BS. I think he was more or less locked into a path by the defender there and he would've had to have done some really strange maneuver to get out of the way. I guess he could've elbowed the dude in the jaw real quick or something and dropped him? I dunno.

Looked like BS to me. By Ovechkin's reaction, I think you could tell that he thought it was.

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 23, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Agreed that Atlanta looks much improved overall this year. That Byfuglien guy is someone I wish the Capitals had.

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 23, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

@Sgm - guess your lil stat of 2 goals per game in the last 11 games will end at just that..... 11 games.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | October 23, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

@Pokerface LOL!

BTW Where is Mr. SAOTI?

Posted by: nicety251 | October 23, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Lets also remember that we were basically playing with 5 D men...Green only came out on the PP.

I don't think the 3 games in 4 nights excuse is a good one...it is too early in the season for that to really effect the professional athletes. I know that if the CAPS lost under those circumstances, few posters here would have been satisifed with that excuse.

Posted by: capscoach | October 23, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Please help the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society and help the Capitals reach their goal of raising $5,000 for blood cancers (that's leukemia, lymphoma, myeloma, and Hodgkin's Disease).

It's easy, it's tax-deductible, it will make you feel really good inside, and even a tiny donation is a really, really good thing.

Just go to www.lls.org/capsfans

Kids are dying left and right of this thing. It doesn't have to happen though. Please--as little as $5.00 is great, and it's an amount you can probably spare.

The Caps so far have raised only a tiny portion of the $5,000 they set as a goal, and it's kind of embarrassing.

www.lls.org/capsfans

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 23, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Varly just signed by Boyd Gordon to join his team at Club Med...

Posted by: SoaringCaps | October 23, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

pokerface: We could get some really good headlines in this one:

"Semin Covers Atlanta"

"Flash Trashes Thrash"

"Caps Beat Thrash with Semin and Flash"

"Semin Fires on Target"

Semin obviously gets #1 star. Mini-Me though can hopefully continue this year, and we must also comment Erskine who continues to surprise. Many of us have been right so far in many of the things we thought about the Caps, but I will admit freely being wrong so far on Erskine.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 23, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Stecks fo% at 81% tonight, and we should trade him so MJ gets ice time. Doesn't make sense to me.

Posted by: former_mr_mom | October 23, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Oh, forget this one:

"Hot Semin Propels Caps"

Enough. Enough!

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 23, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, the level of competition increases in the playoffs, and if you happen to get paired against a team that presents a bad matchup for yours, it makes things a little tough. There isn't a very large sample size of playoff games from which to judge Boudreau's performance--he's 13-15 in 28 playoff games. And there is certainly room to argue that the Flyers series in 2008 would've gone the other way had the officiating been just a little more evenhanded and a little better. And that team was on a serious roll until it bumped into that situation--who knows how far they could have gone?

I don't know if Boudreau is an incredibly great coach though. I'm not smart enough or hockey-knowledgeable enough to really be able to tell. He might not be for all I know. The problem is finding someone who has a very good chance of being significantly better, waiting to see if the gamble pays off, and if it doesn't, what then, and what players are still here then?

I don't consider the playoff record, all by itself, to be that important of a factor at all. So, I completely disagree that it is "what matters at this point." It matters not very much, from my point of view. Not unless he actually did certain bad coaching maneuvers in the playoffs.

Posted by: youaresquishy

I think playoff records mean everything. It's do or die. That's when tomorrow is not guaranteed at all and the team and coach have to fight to stay in, unlike the regular season.

But I hope I'm wrong and that you are right. I hope BB is fully capable of leading us to a Cup. Please prove me wrong, BB and GMGM.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | October 23, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

@youaresquishy

That Flyers team we lost to had a bottom feeder as a goalie. The Rangers that we were down 1-3 can't score on anybody. (Feds and Bradley rescued us.) The effort in Pitt after having the Pens down 2-0 was really piss poor. The Habs were down 1-3, and we let them back in by sleep walking through the first two periods of game 5. We got outhustled by ALL FOUR of these teams.

This is a result of poor coaching ! Too bad Torts or LaViolette weren't available at the right time. Both know how to push teams into the finals, and win. The BB era will end without a cUp, I just hope there is an experienced, playoff savy, NHL level coach available when BB is fired.

If I were Ted, I would be offering Scotty Bowman millions of $$ to come prep this team for the playoffs, before age, injuries, and the cap start to rob us of all this talent.

Backy still looks like he is either very hurt, or knows BB's style is going nowhere after this 82 game preseason ends. The man looks uninterested.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | October 23, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

The first period was an abomination. We stunk, didnt move our feet, didnt do anything.

Then things got better. The second line was obviously good tonight.

After the 2nd period 2 bad things occurred. Chimera and Steckel just standing there after Buff ran Neuvy. Thankfully Erskine has a brain and went after him. The other bad thing was Backies coverage on the goal with under a minute left.

Yes Flash scored, and I am one of his haters. The team is still better off if they move him, and his goal was pure luck. He swung his stick without looking at the goal and put it in the top corner. He got us the two points. Thank you Flash, keep boosting your stats and trade value :)

Still want to see a 60 minute effort please.

Posted by: ThePat | October 23, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

@icehammer97

I was very concerned when I only saw Green on the bench for all of the game, except on the first Caps Power Play.

Until he came on the first PP, I was wondering why he wasn't playing (and if he were dressed only so they could do an "emergency" recall of Fahey or some other defenseman in time for the road trip). And also must confess that I was wondering why no defenseman was called up from Hershey. And why we weren't fielding a full team.

But when I saw Green on the PP, I was somewhat relieved. (I know he's not "right" physically but....)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 23, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Flash has been fairly consistent. Will our fair-weather fans still be spewing for a trade if they keep this up?

Posted by: gonchpup | October 23, 2010 9:59 PM

In a word, over and over, "Yes," "YES," "YES!!!"

If I've said it once, gonchpup, I've said it ten times: "We have too many snipers and not enough tanks." What about tonight's game made Flash become Mr. Indespensible? The fact that he scored in OT in a game that should have never gone to OT?

Now, don't adjust your televison set, because we are now in the Twilight Zone, the place where hockey fans can re-write the history of their teams.

Picture This: Rod Serling, sitting on a TV Star chair, legs crossed, white shirt, black suit, a cigarette between his fingers, describing tonight's episode, where fans of the Wash Capitals go back in time and change what they want...

...and Flash was traded last June to the Wild for Cal Clutterbuck...

...and Cluts was on the ice for the last minute of tonight's game, for the Caps, so the Trash NEVER SCORED the game-tying goal...

...since Cluts was covering Kane like it should have been done.

Two guys I railed on to trade all summer:

Flash and Erskine.

Erskine's name was mentioned (in a good sense) by Joe B and Locker all night long and has been, really, all eight games. Ersk and Neuvy have both played way above their contracts. Flash? He was pretty much invisible tonight until his skill got him an amazing chip-in in overtime.

Has anyone here ever questioned Flash's skill? No. Has anyone ever said he was worthless? Maybe some, but never me. Has anyone ever said a team full of snipers should move him to a team sans snipers where he'd be much more valuable? Me. Has anyone here said he could be #1LW on some teams and #2LW on most other teams, just not this one? Me.

Trade hime while his value is high. And get us a really gritty #3 RW like Clutterbuck. And with the leftover money get us an upgrade on D so Sloan can take a back seat.

Upgrade the team D and you will NEVER miss Flash on this team. NEVER. EVER. Really. Never, ever. He's one dimensional on a team where we have too much of that dimension.

And you can ask Rod Serling about those dimensions btw.

Oh, finally, one more thing: I don't spew. If you don't believe me, please stop by and check my clothes, and you'll find an absence of dribble spots on my shirts.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 23, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

@youaresquishy

That Flyers team we lost to had a bottom feeder as a goalie. The Rangers that we were down 1-3 can't score on anybody. (Feds and Bradley rescued us.) The effort in Pitt after having the Pens down 2-0 was really piss poor. The Habs were down 1-3, and we let them back in by sleep walking through the first two periods of game 5. We got outhustled by ALL FOUR of these teams.

This is a result of poor coaching ! Too bad Torts or LaViolette weren't available at the right time. Both know how to push teams into the finals, and win. The BB era will end without a cUp, I just hope there is an experienced, playoff savy, NHL level coach available when BB is fired.

If I were Ted, I would be offering Scotty Bowman millions of $$ to come prep this team for the playoffs, before age, injuries, and the cap start to rob us of all this talent.

Backy still looks like he is either very hurt, or knows BB's style is going nowhere after this 82 game preseason ends. The man looks uninterested.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | October 23, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

The only fine play was on the third goal. Nothing was left to a chance. This is how they suppose to score most of the goals.

Posted by: Randolph2 | October 23, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

I love it...all the Semin haters. Semin, if he stays healthy will have the most points on the team. He is the only player on the caps who can take over a game.

Posted by: Caps4Life1 | October 23, 2010 11:45 PM | Report abuse

@quer_1

The Flush kiss parade?? When the blood and bodies start flying in the playoffs, you won't see that Flush goal. He'll be safe out on the perimeter taken' hail Mary shots. Trade him while somebody thinks he may be able to do that in the playoffs.

Erskine is slow. But, he plays playoff hockey. Steckle is the biggest waist of 6 foot 4 since S. Samuelson in Philly. You go after Dustin B. as a group after that move. He's just standing there !!!!!!!!!!!!
Trade him. He'll NEVER carry a cUp. He's a wimp. Carlson has to learn that there are some moves that are off limits. Jump the guy as a group for Pete's sake. Swing a stick at him. He just ran your goalie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you John Erskine for playing hockey the way the NHL set it up to be played. Steckle, get off my team !!!!! Go home to mommy !

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | October 23, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

@ all the BB lovers

Dustin Byfuglien does not pull that move if DJ King is sitting on the bench. No way. It's a guaranteed a$$ kicking for someone in an Atlanta uniform.

GMGM has got to be realizing that this coach is "bush league".

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | October 23, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

@Hunterforcoach
Looks like BB pretty weak on how they suppose to play as a TEAM

Posted by: Randolph2 | October 24, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1

Agree that Flash is probably our most expendable forward. I have nothing personal against him except for the fact that we have too much of that type of player.

Is a forward like Clutterbuck our most pressing need? I'm not sure.

At this point, I think our most pressing need is for a 3rd-4th defenseman since with both Green and Poti hurting, our lack of depth is being greatly exposed. Know any teams with more defensemen than they know what to do with, especially one who'd be good as a 3rd or 4th man.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 24, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

For those saying it was Carlson down there with Steckel when Buff ran Neuvy, I believe it was Steckel and Chimera that stood there. Carlson didnt make a move from the other side of the net but it was Chimmer and Stecks who just gave Buff a love tap before Erskine came over.

Posted by: ThePat | October 24, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Huntsy: Really, truly, I think you got a wee bit carried away on that one.

I think we all saw the Buff hit as it happened. What I saw was a split-second decision where he raised his shoulder and leaned in toward Neuvy.

Five minutes?

Hmmmm...that's a tough one, but...Right Call! Why? The player could have made SOME MOVE to avoid but instead leaned in to get the max hit. He ran the goalie (that's 2) and made it worse via lean-in. Yes! Five!

Now, in that split-second, do you think while Buff skated in and leaned while he coulda back off his brain was able to compute all the variables of DJKing in/out; is Brash still on Caps; is this worth hurting a second tier goalie; etc.

I say: No. I say: Buff is a nasty person. He had a chance to make a decision and, in a split-second, whacked another human being in the head. Had King been dressed - same result. The refs, as they usually do in the NHL, much MORE THAN other sports, got it right. he got five for "reckless endangerment," same as Ovi on Cambpell hit 3/13/10.

Admit it, Huntsy - you are a "Dark Sider."

Huh?

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 24, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Buff deserbed the penalty no question. Do I think he is a nasty person for doing it not at all. Do I wish we had a player that had the balls or a screw loose to do that every once in a while? Hell yeah I wish we do. Especially last year against Montreal, just to shake Halak up.

He made the split second decision and did it. Probably thought he was only going to get 2 minutes. I think Erskines reaction coming from ways away to go after to him influenced the ref giving him 5 bc they didnt want the game getting out of hand.

And for those saying the Ovi penalty wasnt a penalty you are nuts. He definitely skated right into Mason but he did so in a way trying to protect them both, thus getting the two minutes. Did the ref miss Ovi being hooked prior to that yeah, but thats why Ovi thought he could do it and get away with it.

Posted by: ThePat | October 24, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

CF75: You are correct, #3 RW is not most pressing. It's just that I would be happy to trade Flash for a grit forward so money would then be freed up to trade for a better defenseman.

The team needs to be rebalanced. In a prefect world, you move Flash for Clutterbuck. Today. Then you pray MP can keep it up so that we have Semin-MP-Fehr. Now with trade we can make Laich-MaJo-Clutterbuck on third line.

Then you wait while NJ and Van have LTIR players come back and Bieksa and Salvador become available.

Is the defenseman the most pressing need? Seems yes, but, really, we need both a shutdown D and a shutdown RW (ala Kelly Miller0 I think to win.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | October 24, 2010 12:40 AM | Report abuse

@Hunterforcoach, Lloydchristmas, and playoffs are all that matter types everywhere.

First of all, I don't believe in the BS the major American leagues try to feed everyone nowadays about the playoffs being the only thing that matters. I guess that line of thinking makes the single elimination tournament at the end of the season a little more exciting, but if you really buy into that, there isn't much point in watching the regular season, at least not when you're talking about a team like the Capitals that is definitely going to make it. Maybe you should just stop watching since this doesn't matter and come back next summer.

I happen to think it does matter. I celebrate the champion of the regular season in the NHL. I think most other people think it matters, to varying degrees, and not just because it determines seeding in the playoffs, and that is why they bother to watch even teams they know will get in.

And I'm glad you brought up Scotty Bowman. Bowman had a .632 playoff win percentage throughout his 30-year coaching career. That is really good. There is a large sample size to look at (353 games), so it's no fluke.

The criticism is that Bruce Boudreau has done poorly in the playoffs in his first three seasons, yes?

Let's look at how Scotty Bowman did during his first five seasons. His winning percentage during his first five regular seasons was .612 (ignoring ties). Yet Bowman went 28-30 in the playoffs during those same five seasons. That's only a .483 winning percentage.

That isn't much better than Bruce Boudreau's .463 percentage and 13-15 record over his first three seasons. But maybe give him a couple more before we finish doing the comparison.

Posted by: youaresquishy | October 24, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Laich's greatest value is as a 3L, he's not a true top-6 but he'd be ideal on a good playoff team's 3rd line. Flash on the left side with Semin with a true center in between [either MJ, or perhaps MP, we'll see if he keeps it up] is a very dangerous line - which in turn would also free up the first line from the other team's top defenders.

Speaking of the 1L, right now Knuble is luggage, and seemingly too heavy for OV and Backstrom to carry. If he's not banging bodies and crashing the net, he has limited value on the top line. He should easily have 7-8 goals so far, top-6 wingers should not miss those.

Posted by: govtimbo | October 24, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

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