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Atlanta's Kovalchuk Injured

The Thrashers beat the Pens 4-1 last night to move past the Caps in the Southeast Division standings. But that wasn't the important news coming out of Atlanta. The Thrashers' best player, Ilya Kovalchuk, suffered a right knee injury in the second period when he was hit knee-on-knee by Pittsburgh agitator Jarkko Ruutu.

Check out the hit here:



The Thrashers don't know how much time Kovalchuk will miss, if any. But they're in big trouble if he's out for more than a game or two. His 38 goals are the second most in the league, one behind Alex Ovechkin. Ruutu, meantime, got a five minute major for kneeing, a five minute major for fighting and a game misconduct. I'm guessing he might also hear from the league this morning.

Update: I'm told defenseman Shaone Morrisonn (bruised right foot) skated this morning. I'll post a lineup before the game.

Update: According to the AJC, Kovalchuk will miss only two games, including Saturday's game in Washington. Check out the article here.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  January 31, 2008; 7:48 AM ET
 
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Comments

An intentional knee-on-knee is just about the dirtiest move in hockey. They're potential career enders and I think less of anyone who delivers one (not that it was possible for me to think much less of Jarkko Ruttu).

I hope Kovalchuck's okay. I'd rather see a fair fight for the Richard trophy between him and AO than to see AO win it cleanly because of a dirty injury.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Ruutu is one of the biggest agitator's in hockey. Both he and his brother are dirty players.

If the NHL didn't have the instigator penalty and some of the other restrictions on fighting, the players would keep it clean.

Players like Ruutu carry out their cheap shots with the full knowledge that they can hide behind the officials skirts.

Posted by: Muddapucker | January 31, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Ruutu should be suspended for multiple games -- after the whistle, long run, along the boards, right for the knee, opponents best player (and a legetimate shot for the Rocket Richards trophy). This just adds another log to my hate Pissburgh fire. I hope Kovvy is back soon, while Ruutu sends at least 5 games in street clothes.

Posted by: JIM | January 31, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Ruutu needs to be out for about 20 years, there is no place in hockey for a player like him. Oh by the way Eminger suks! Our D is the best in the league and ALL goals are soft.

Posted by: Bob | January 31, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

My countryman mean no harm.

Posted by: Esa Tikkanen | January 31, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

As much as it could hurt the caps - I still wish Kovie a quick return to the NHL. Get well and I look forward to an intense battle toward the end of the season.

Posted by: cs | January 31, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

figures the pens would do something like that, and THEN lose the game.

dirty bastards.

hope he heels fast, maybe its just a bruise.

Posted by: go skins go | January 31, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

CS-I agree, Kovie is the bomb. Even though he scares the crap out of me when he plays the Caps, he's a classy player and I loved how he was in the All-Star game.
Meanwhile, Ruutu is just begging to made an example of.

Posted by: dave | January 31, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

People complain about Brashear and say he's nothing but an instigator and fighter, but ...

Guys like Ruutu (and the NYR's goon Colton Orr and what's-his-name in Buffalo) are in a completely different category.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | January 31, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

@ Caps fan in TN - I agree. Brash keeps to "the code" and while yes he can enforce when needed, typically if he goes its with someone else who's job it is to fight too. You will not see Brash taking out a players knees because he doesnt need to, he can usually beat them down fair and square.

Posted by: cs | January 31, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Brash is not a dirty player. He is a brawler who protects his teammates and plays a darn good forecheck. He is not anywhere near Ruutu who is not a fighter, does not live by a code, and is part of the most despised franchise in hockey. Fear the Penguin -- bite me!

Posted by: JIM | January 31, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

I love 99% of your work, but I think the Post article this morning was 100% unnecessary and made the Caps out to be a bunch of babies. If the Caps are up 3-0 on a team and have a PP in the final minute, you better believe we will have PP1 and OV out there looking for a goal. If this was a motivational technique that should've stayed in the locker room, then fine, leave it in the locker room.

But I don't need a Tom Poti (biggest disappointment in the league this year?) whining about it. You want to fix it? Play some solid defense and score a goal.

Sorry for the rant, the whole thing just rubbed me the wrong way.

Posted by: sean | January 31, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Classy guy that Ruutu. I'd say that was every bit as dirty as anything Chris Simon has done this season.

Posted by: pch49 | January 31, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Good on Kovalchuks team mates for jumping in right away. McCarthy got like 17 penalty minutes for his retaliation but good on him. Those are the type of penalties you can live with...

Posted by: K | January 31, 2008 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I saw the game last night and saw the hit. I don't think Ruutu's hit on Kovalchuk was a dirty hit. Kovalchuk tried to side step the hit and HE actually created the knee on knee contact. Ruutu didn't extend his knee or anything like that. It is a shame to see such a talented guy like Kovalchuk get injured and I certainly hope it NEVER EVER happens to OV. I agree that Ruutu is mouthy and a cheap shot, but in this case it wasn't a dirty hit. I certainly don't think that Rutuu's reputation is helping him in the matter. I think if it had been Kovalchik hitting Ruutu and Ruutu were injured, it wouldn't have even been a penalty. I know Ruutu got away with stuff in the past, so maybe this is making up for it. I wish a speedy recover to Kovalchuk.

Posted by: BearsWoooo | January 31, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Kovalchuk should've taken the hit instead of dodged it, and he might still have a healthy knee. However, the hit was late and Ruutu followed through with whatever part of his body was available. It was an unfortunate situation.

What Simon has done the past couple of seasons is a tragedy, but it was mental-lapse retaliation. It's also not the last boil over we should expect to see when you have slime like Ruutu and Hollweg running around cheap-shotting guys with no fear of retribution.

Posted by: bill ball | January 31, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

@Sean -

I agree. There's no reason to let up at the end of a game, whether is 1-0 or 10-0. You have to play for 60 minutes regardless of the score.

Posted by: Bill Belichick | January 31, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

@ sean - Tarik writes an article every game day to set up the game, so the article was "necessary" if the Caps are to continue being covered in the Post. Since the Caps are playing the Habs again tonight, I don't see any way he could avoid in his game-day article an issue that is obviously important to the team and has the potential to carry over into tonight's game.

Armchair journalists...almost worse than armchair GMs.

Posted by: Jill | January 31, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Hey Bill Belichick,
Did you show Guy Carbonneau secret tapes of the Caps practices?

Posted by: dave | January 31, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

@ Jill,

I appreciate your opinion, but all this does is add fuel to the fire and give the Habs even more reasons to try and bury us tonight. Why even bring this on yourself?

My opinion, for what its worth, is that this is a weak motivational tactic by BB. It hasn't worked for any team playing the Pats this year. AND, its not like we were down 9-0.

Also, for Tom Poti to have the cojones to even comment is beyond me. Score a goal and then maybe you can speak up.

Posted by: sean | January 31, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

@ Sean - I respect your opinion about the team's quotes, position, etc., I just think criticizing Tarik for reporting on it doesn't really make sense.

Posted by: Jill | January 31, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

@sean

You realize the caps and habs play again tonight, right? the caps are still angry about the habs running up the score two days ago and they're using that as motivation for the rematch.

how is that NOT the story to write for today's paper?

Posted by: Tarik | January 31, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

4-0 just simply does not constitute running up the score for me. Agree to disagree. Did we run the score up on the Leafs earlier in the 7-1 game?

Can you honestly tell me that if we were up 3-0 with a PP late in the game that we wouldn't have OV and company out on the ice? Seems like a double standard.

Again, love your work and keep it up. I just am not sure we are good enough to give other team's (like the Habs) more motivation.

Posted by: sean | January 31, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

@Sean
I don't think you understand the history of the NHL. Hockey has many unwritten rules and traditions and one of them is not to have your D pinching on a power play with seconds to go and your team is up 3 zip. It's not done and when it is it's not the end of the world but it does show a lack of class on the Habs part. Guy C's comments in the paper are made by someone who would be the first to complain if the scenario had been turned around.

Posted by: Esa Tikkanen | January 31, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

@ sean - stil seems like you are shooting the messenger.

Posted by: Jill | January 31, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

how is winning a professional hockey game by the score of 4-0 running it up?

maybe every team in the league should have to submit a list of players that is allowed to be on the ice in the final minute of a game in which they have a 3+ goal lead, that way no one's feelings will get hurt.

I was really taken aback by the Caps' whining after this game. If this is what it takes this group of professional hockey players to motivate themselves, then we have bigger problems.

You worry about running the score up in high school, after that, it is time to be a big boy and take full accountability when the puck ends up in your net. The notion that one professional team expected their opponent to just roll over and let the clock run out is just astonishing.

Posted by: cw | January 31, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

@ Esa

I have been around hockey for a long time, and the notion that there is an unwritten rule about pinching at the blue line in the final minute of a 3-0 game is laughable. If I was a Capital and saw another team stop trying to score on us because they had beaten us so bad, THEN I would be mad.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

That was NOT a dirty hit! Ruutu didn't try and go after his knee... he was just trying to check Kovy! The knee collision looked accidental to me.

Think about it; if Ruutu intentionally takes out Kovalchuk's knee, he would have known that an Atlanta player (or two or three) would be coming after him. After the collision, he turned to the Thrashers player and did not put his hands up or assume a fighting stance. McCarthy then (props to him) comes from his side and starts pummeling him in the back of the head.

Ruutu didn't even throw a punch and got 5 minutes for fighting (which he didn't do), plus the major for kneeing (which was accidental) and a game misconduct (because the refs are blind).

IMHO, his reaction is very telling in this. He hadn't a clue what had happened... because it was unintentional!!!

Posted by: FrankM73 | January 31, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

@ Esa come on. If you want to keep pucks out of the net then play better defense.

There is no unwritten code in the NHL in terms of scoring. Please don't make comments like that and then hide behind a fake name. And thanks for missing the empty netter in 98.

@ Jill,
I am not blaming the messenger at all. I just think there are more newsworthy stories like Mo's amazing recovery between Tues night and Wed morning. He must have some magic creams.

Posted by: sean | January 31, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

From the previous thread:

It appears as though a bunch of zany, irresponsible, pimple - faced adolescents have invaded our board. I, for one, would just as soon they go back to their teeter totler, and sand boxes.

Posted by: Puckguru | January 31, 2008 12:42 AM

Couldn't let this one go:
Puck"Guru", "Our" board? Please. Your comments and posting have been irrelevant since thanksgiving. And as for adolecents invading, I'm sure i have underwear older than you. Go back to your basement and stew over the ways GMGM has harmed you over the years. And then come out and spew your drivel so we can all have a good laugh.

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

two things: 1) i agree with bearswooo in that the hit on kovie wasn't dirty. had their been a clear extension of the knee i would have a different oppinion. i am still glad that mccarthy came in and fought, which is something that needs to happen any time your all star goes down.
2) i don't think montreal ran up the score or that we should be whining about it, but if it's what's being talked about then it is Tarik's job to report on it. correct me if i'm wrong but didn't last time we play florida we dominated the last 90 seconds of the game by putting on an offensive clinic in their zone? best thing to do is just beat the habs tonight, that's the best payback. not a sermon, just a thought

Posted by: capthis! | January 31, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

1) Sorry, we didn't see the play the same as many here did. The only part that was questionable was the fact that Ruutu finished his check as the whistle blew
2) If Kovy had absorbed the check instead of attempting to skate from Ruutu there would have been no knee on knee. It wasn't an open ice thing that's clear cut. This was along the boards and very debatable as to intent to injure
3) If this were a player without Ruutu's reputation and against a non star few would care. Also how in hell did Ruutu get a fighting major?? LOL His gloves weren't even off. McCarthy defended his team mate which is admirable, but he deserved the extra PIM time.
http://newfaux.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Fauxrumors | January 31, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I think Ruutu's reputation got him the fighting major. That happens sometimes. Refs look over and see him in a scrum, and assume he's fighting too.

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

sean,

From Tarik's article: "Morrisonn practiced -- though he appeared uncomfortable at times -- and later said he would decide whether to suit up for tonight's game after the morning skate."

Yeah, that's a f@#king miracle of a recovery right there.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Tarik is unlikely to get any straight stories from the Caps about Morrisonn's ankle so that isn't going to fill space. The Caps are talking about it themselves, so Tarik's writing about it. Look us talking about this is just as useful as complaining about the Patriots running up the score.

Posted by: tallbear | January 31, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Sean,
Tarik is a reporter. His job is to cover what is pertinent to the team. If they're upset about Montreal's play in the last game and they're playing them tonight, how could he not cover that? It's immaterial whether the Caps have a legitimate beef. Tarik's job is to report. It's his editor's job to decide what makes the paper. Tarik, great job!

Posted by: b.orr4 | January 31, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

@ Lee,
Talk about being, "Irrelevant." What does the age of your underware ( Assuming you even own any ) have to do with anything? Unwittingly, you're proving my point. Thanks.

Posted by: Puckguru | January 31, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Having your top line out and the defensemen pinching in during the last minute when your on the PP is a really classless move and bad sportmanship. Part of the game is not grinding your opponent's face into the mud at the end of the game. If it were the seccond period, no problem, but it was a minute left in the third. There's no chance the caps are goign to even the score, so having your top line out there is totally unecessary.

Posted by: EricS | January 31, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Random request -- any Bears fan able to speak to Fehr's performance since his return and how he's looking on the ice? Thanks.

Posted by: Jeff | January 31, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Who cares about the score. That was the last game. Time to move on. Stop complaining, stop shooting the messenger, and stop arguing about something that happened 2 days ago. Its over. Next game please.

Posted by: Eric | January 31, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Good story, Tarik. Thanks.

The WAS-MON game was chippy throughout with some extra pushing and shoving. I thought fisticuffs were going to break out in the third period ... but we may see that tonight. If Erskine plays tonight ... he might be the first to throw down.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | January 31, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

@eric,
Ahh... they're playing the same team they played two days ago. That's why we're talking about it. If you don't like it then stop reading.

Posted by: b.orr4 | January 31, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

@ Eric S

so I assume when we had our top line out against Florida and totally dominated the last :90 in a game that was already diced, that was equally classless?

i thought that shift only added to the overall momentum of the team at that point...and no Panthers whined...

i am guessing that there you have the names of exactly 5 Habs that should not be allowed on the ice in the final minute of a 3 goal game?

don't you always want to take the other team's best shot? doesn't Mon playing their PP1 give us more opportunity to work against the finest PP in the league? If you are not the best, don't you always want to have your shot against the best, regardless of time and score?

I certainly hope this is how our guys feel; they are professionals..this is not high school.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

If Erskine dresses tonight, he'd better ride the bench for 55 minutes. There's no question he can throw his weight around, but he is a skating-disaster out there. 2 (TWO!) delay of games, and another minor on Tuesday. You simply can't take bad penalties against Montreal and expect to win. Add in his tendency to be out of position due to his attempts to throw the big hit and he's a huge liability -- especially when paired with a guy who is offense-first.

There's no question he has had some strong games this season -- I don't want to overlook that. But against a team like Montreal, and other fast skating and skilled teams, he needs to be in the press box if at all possible.

Posted by: Jeff | January 31, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

That is flat out dirty. I'm not a Thrasher fan, but no one wants to see a bright star in the league get run at AFTER the whistle. Ruuto knew what he was doing and accomplished his mission. One can only hope that the damage is not to serious to Kovolchuk

Posted by: Mitch | January 31, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

@Puckguru,

SInce your up from the basement, let me ask you a question: Why do you have so much venom for the Caps MGMT?

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Ruutu hit came before the whistle - clearly shown on NHL Network ...

Posted by: NJ | January 31, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

If the situation were reversed everyone here would be telling the Habs to stop whining about it.

CAPS FANS..QUIT WHINING!!

So should the Canadians stopped stopped scoring when it was 2-0, 'out of respect' for the Caps? NO WAY.

Caps got beat fairly, their PK wasnt good enough to stop the 4th goal and the D wasnt good enough to clear the puck past a pinching D man.

The team needs to look in the mirror and tell themselves that they messed up and there is nobody to blame but themselves.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: | January 31, 2008 10:25 AM

Man up and claim credit for your posts.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

While it can be argued that the Ruutu hit wasn't dirty in its mechanics, it really looks like it was dirty in its intent.

He took advantage of a chance to apply an illegal hit on the other team's superstar when that player was unprepared.

While the hit was before the whistle, the whistle was for a delayed offsides that everyone on the ice knew was about to be called. Kovalchuk did not have the puck, so at the very least, you can call it interference. You could also justify charging.

Either way, it's hard to argue Ruutu wasn't taking a run on Kovalchuk, and that's the kind of thing the league is trying to stop. You may disagree with the kneeing or fighting penalties, but he should have been penalized and ejected.

If a Capitals player gets called for a hook when what he did is really tripping, I dont't get bent out of shape over the semantics. Ditto here.

Posted by: John in Mpls | January 31, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

"If the situation were reversed everyone here would be telling the Habs to stop whining about it."

Are you new to hockey? It's been this way for all teams and fans for a long, long time. This time of year brings it out more than at any other point. Other teams' fans whine about the Caps because they think their hard-hitting style is "dirty." If the score were the other way around, Habs fans would be whining about Semin being a "diver" (though to their credit, some of them are anyway).

Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Be respectful guys. Sean is using his real name and has been "around hockey a long time".

Posted by: Esa Tikkanen | January 31, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

sean,
i agree with you assesment. We got beat and we got beat bad, suck it up and return the favor tonight. It would be nice to see Poti find the back of the net or at least keep it out of ours.

Posted by: capsfan08 | January 31, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Let me shed some light on my opinion (however little it's worth). In a game when there is no chance of a come back by the team that is down, there is absolutely no reason for your #1 unit to be on the ice. Yes, professional athletes are paid to put on a show. And typically I have no issue with teams running up the score on other teams, they're doing the job they're paid to do. My issue, whether it's the Caps, Habs or any other professional team is that the coach is risking his star players to injury. Not to mention, in cases like today, more times than not, your'e going to run into the same team again. And that team is going to still feel the embarrassment of having the score run up on them...hence a rougher game.

Posted by: Yosh | January 31, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

CapsSuck

I hate to say it...
But I totally agree.
I can see how Gabby would try to use this as a motivational point for the team.

The best thing our boys can do is thrash the Habs tonite. Show a little character and bounce back.

We weren't gonna run the table anyway. Maybe this loss is an opportune time to teach the boys not to "believe their own press" if you know what I mean.

Posted by: pmoravek | January 31, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

But they are right..Semin does dive...

either that or they have no other explanation for how easily he falls.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I do recall back the beginning of Dec and Philly was whopping the Pens 7-2 in the 3rd period and put their #1 PP unit on and ended up scoring and 8th goal.

After the game the Pens were in an uproar, the coach was angry because of it.

The Flyers response...They took a few runs at our goalie and our best players, we had to take it out on them somehow.

Maybe the Habs wanted to settle a score, unseen by all of us.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Re: the Ruutu hit

It may not have been a dirty hit. But he definitely saw who it was with the puck and he took a run.
With the reputation Ruutu has, he is gonna get called for that. You know it....I know it....he should know it.

I would rather see KO-V and O-V fight it out for the RR right to the end so I hope this doesn't keep KO-V off the ice too long.

As much as it made me throw up in my mouth a little (poke..poke) I was rooting for the Pens during that game for standings purposes. Where is Sid the Kid when WE need him?

Posted by: pmoravek | January 31, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Darn it. I wish they post this written rules.
Sean i agree with most of what you said, but I advice you to be very careful on this blog about expressing your views. Think, tooth-fary, santa, and little kids.

Posted by: opita | January 31, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

@CapsSuck

I think you are right. I think the issue was Semin shooting into the net as time expired at the end of the previous period. Remember, it angered Kovalev enough that he fired the puck the length of the ice in the direction of Johnson and the Caps' net.

Posted by: Tarik | January 31, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I meant to say "UNwritten".

Posted by: opita | January 31, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

> how is that NOT the story to write for today's paper?

It is a story, but it's still whining... If this will help them to win tonight, then it I am all for it. What bothers me is that when the team starts whining, they have no other means to respond to a game they lost.

This is a crucial game tonight, if BB pulls a trick, no matter how he will motivate the players, he is automatic for 'Coach of the year' because Habs are scary good.

Let's see what Alex and Caps are worth tonight. Score first and punish Habs, plaster them, pummel them into pulp...

Watch me doing exactly that. :-)

Achting, Panzer!

Papa 'Panzer' Schutlz

Posted by: Papa 'Panzer' Schutlz | January 31, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Mitch,

Late hits happen all the time and I've never seen a guy get 2 majors and a game ejection for it before. It simply was not kneeing. OK, call it charging or roughing for the late hit, but to call that kneeing is a stretch, even it is that little @^&$* Ruutu. For a kneeing penalty, the player has to lead with his knee, or extend his knee outward. I didn't either of those. He ran at Kovalchuk, and Kovalchuk side stepped and actually stepped right into Ruutu's knee with his own. It is a shame it happened. I think Kovie is an awesome player and I hate to see any player get injured. Just because a star player hurts his knee, doesn't mean it was a kneeing penalty. I saw it last night when it happened and I've seen the replay dozens of times, and I just don't see Ruutu leading with his knee or turning his knee out or anything like that. Just like he DID NOT fight, he didn't even drop the gloves. He turned his back and got punched in the helmet. Again, I think it is becuase it was Ruutu and Kovalchuk. Put two no name players in that situation and it isn't even a penalty and no one ever sees the replay. I hope Ilya isn't seriously injured. Players of his calibre are so much fun to watch and help draw fans.

Posted by: BearsWoooo | January 31, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

@CapsSuck
You've made an awesome point. Perhaps there is something none of us know about. Maybe it was the OT win on Jan 5th. Good point.

Posted by: Esa Tikkanen | January 31, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

I'd much rather have a team go out and score a few more goals then take runs at players..so the extra goals and extra hard play is certainly the lesser of 2 evils.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

@tarik
Silly stuff, don't you think? And, besides, if you get your oponent angry he will probably make mistakes. As an old boxer, I used to love to make my oponent angry.

Posted by: opita | January 31, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I've said it before, Erskine is a useful 7th defenceman but get's exposed against fast skating teams. Remeber earlier this year against Buffalo?

B.B. has to pick the right spots to play Erskine but he did not have much choice on Tuesday unless they would have made a call up from Hershey.

I like what I see from Eminger lately. He's playing like someone trying to hold on to a NHL career. The first half of the season may have been the ultimate wake up call for him.

Posted by: Red Dragon | January 31, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I remember a game not too long ago when we had AO out on the ice shooting the puck at the last minute. Everyone was shouting about wanting wings which is why I think they chose to put AO out there. It wasn't like it 5-4 or anything so really there wasn't a reason to have AO out there at the last minute but we still did it and we still tried to score another goal. Why is that ok and not the Habs trying to score at the last minute? The Caps played like crap the other night and they deserved to lose, hopefully they will come back and win tonight...

Posted by: ? | January 31, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Chiming in that the Caps looked bad in the article by the public whining about the score. Winners don't whine about a team playing a full 60 minutes. Fans don't pay to see part of a game. Complaining about the score seems like complaining that the other team kept playing when you wanted to give up and go home. I didn't think that was the way things worked with our new coach and hope it was a whine by a few, not a theme of the team. If I were the Habs, I'd be looking forward to tonight, knowing the Caps will give up rather than play 60 minutes.

Posted by: 121 K | January 31, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

How many folks are from here are going to the game tonight?

Posted by: Mitch | January 31, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"Re: the Ruutu hit

It may not have been a dirty hit. But he definitely saw who it was with the puck and he took a run." -- pmoravek

In my opinion I don't think it was a dirty hit, however, I did see him throw an elbow, fortunately he missed.
I agree he took a run but how is that different that AO on Maulkin? According to AO, Maulkin was a dangerous (in terms of clean play) player so he needed to slow him down. Could it be that Ruutu was thinking the same?
In any case, I hope Ilya recovers soon, he is one of my favorite players.

Posted by: Opita | January 31, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

My expectations for tonight:

- 2 goals from AO

- Brash will go and challenge someone and pummel him into pulp: "You want your first PP unit when the score is 3:0 already?"

- Green will continue crushing the net like he did in Montreal

- AO will destroy Komisarek with a hit that will be played non-stop on all networks

- Juice will engrave AK-27 sign on the boards.

What else?

- I will score on my half slap shot to put Caps ahead, but it is depending on BB, if will give me enough ice time for that.

Achtung, Panzer!

Posted by: Papa 'Panzer' Schultz | January 31, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm going Mitch and I can't wait!!! It should be exciting!

Posted by: K | January 31, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

@Mitch I'm going.

Posted by: Esa Tikkanen | January 31, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I have had said it before that this "running up the score," is a non-issue and nothing more then motivation. If it weren't a home and home, no one would care. They are just trying to get pumped up for an important game. Let them feed themselves, and the media, and enjoy a intense game tonight.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 31, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

@ Mitch - I haven't missed a home game this season.

As I mentioned yesterday, I still don't blame the Habs for putting on a good show for the home crowd. I believe their home wins are still in the single digits this season.

And CapsSuck and Tarik raise valid points that the Habs were pissed that Semin shot the puck in the net after the period ended.

As for Semin "diving," he also falls down all by himself quite a bit. So I would tend to give him the benefit of the doubt since he has enough trouble staying upright when there are no other players or even the puck nearby...

Posted by: Jill | January 31, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

CW is absolutely correct. I'm a Caps fan, but the Caps need to quit whining that the Habs were running up the score. You hear this a lot in PROFESSIONAL sports. You're professionals and the game is meant to be played all-out for 60 minutes. If you don't want the other team to try hard, go back to playing pee wee hockey.

Posted by: Quit Whining | January 31, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't agree more with those of you saying to stop whining about what happened in Montreal. When I played hockey growing up we were always taught to play until the final horn regardless of the score. Shorthanded or not Montreal put the clamps down and didn't want anything to happen to them. Afterall the Caps gave up a shorty earlier in the game.

You want to make a statement then come out tonight and open up a tank of whoop ass on them. This team's been on a roll and confident. It should take a lot more than the last minute of the other night's game to get this team back on track quickly.

Ice Breakers Goal Shakers. ;) LET'S GO CAPS.

Posted by: Jonathan | January 31, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

my trade prediction: i think with emminger getting a recent surge in ice time, MGMT will ship off him or (preferably) schultz along with some picks and petty for a top 6 RW. schultz is valuable trade bait because he has put up 11 points and is a plus 2 AND he gets a lot of ice time. the more we play emmy the more valuable he becomes (assuming he racks up a few assists in the coming days.) anyone else see this brewing?

Posted by: capthis! | January 31, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

@capthis!

No. Give Schultz time, he is essentially a rookie this year. People were saying similar things about Green two seasons ago and last season also, that he was junk. Give him time to develop.

Posted by: freakinandpeakin | January 31, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Yeah but who could we get for them?

Posted by: Kate | January 31, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Even with Alzner and Godfrey coming up, you wouldn't part ways with Schultz even if it meant that your second line could be Semin/Kozlov/Boyes? (Not that we could land Boyes, I'm just using him as a goal-scoring example. In reality we'd probably have to offer more for someone of his calibur.)

Posted by: @freakinandpeakin | January 31, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

also, my hypothetical second line might not work if ovie/backstrom/kozlov continue playing the way they are... but it's all hypothetical

Posted by: capthis! | January 31, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

@capthis

I cant see the Caps making a move. Maybe if we were 100% healthy we might try to add something. I think the plan will be to continue to gel as a unit, and see what we got. Possibly tweak some things in the off-season.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 31, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

ahh i messed up my post. that last one was by me, not freakinandpeakin... sorry haha

Posted by: capthis@ | January 31, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Eminger is definite trade bait. He would fit in well with a team looking for an extra D man for a playoff run...not necessarily someone who will play every game, but can fill in when needed. The Caps dont have any real use for him...that is if they are healthy.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

A lot of the Schultz haters seem to forget (or just choose to ignore) the fact that Schultz is still just a 21 year-old who has played a grand total of 81 games at the NHL level and 45 more in the AHL. Give the guy a break.

Posted by: GusDaMan | January 31, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I still say that whatever gets this team fired up after an uninspired performance is a-ok with me, even if I don't think that the late pressure was anything to get bent up over. I'd rather have them mad at the Canadiens over this than end up in the "shame spirals" that they so often seemed to get into under Hanlon, where one bad loss would lead to 5 more. I think this is just one or two quotes that have been blown up into something far more significant than it actually is.

I, sadly, will not be able to make it to the game due to prior obligations.

capthis!,

While that's a good amount of ammo, that's also two defensemen gone with no replacement. As thin as the blueline is, there's no way the team could take that sort of hit. Perhaps those guys and picks for a top pair defensemen, assuming that Mo comes back soon and Pothier makes it back before the season's over - we could probably flesh out the rest of it with call-ups. I'm not counting on it, or any other major moves, though. I think GMGM will wait until the opening of UFA in July to make acquisitions.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Sorry to post this here, but don't have another option right now. Does anyone know if you can see the rink from inside the Acela Club? Going for the first time tonight and trying to see if we need to arrive early to eat or can watch the first part of the game while eating.

Thank you

Posted by: Clubs | January 31, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Yes, give me time... Real d-men blossom after 30, some, like Chelios, ripe after 45. I will drang Osten Conference in a few years, I will tower (I am 6'5") Caps defense for years to come.

Papa 'Panzer' Schultz

Posted by: Papa 'Panzer' Schultz | January 31, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I want Ruutu dead.

Posted by: AZR | January 31, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

@ capthis,

How can Eminger possibly be called trade bait. He is the #8 defensemen (when all are healthy) on arguably the worst defensive team in the league. How could he have any value at all to any other team?!?!

I think we all sometimes miss the point. We were very fortunate to get a 2nd for Suts. Guys like Suts and Emi have zero value elsewhere.

Posted by: sean | January 31, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

He is trade bait because he is eating up a roster spot. Yeah, a #8 defensive guy who can play some minutes. The value he will have to another team is a body to fill in for a playoff run. The value in return to the Caps is a draft pick in a draft that is supposedly supposed to be pretty deep.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

@ capthis!

do you have a top 6 RW in mind?

Not many GMs will bite on taking Shultz and Emmy from us, especially for a good RW that will make a solid contribution. And we need to beef up the D, primarily.

Although with Clark being out for such a long period of time, it may be wise to look for a top 6 RW.

Posted by: Tom | January 31, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I agree. If the Caps are still in the hunt they will have to be looking for someone to solidify the lineup. That will most likely be a D man. Eminger just complicates things.

Posted by: JamesD | January 31, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Club,

I wish I could tell you, but I have never eaten there and to the best of my knowledge have never known anyone who has. You could probably call them to find out.

http://www.levyrestaurants.com/Levy/DiningExperiences/SportsAndEntertainment/Group6/Verizon+Center.htm

Enjoy the game!

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Darcy Tucker would be a top 6 wing available. At $3 mil a year, and having to give up probably 2 prospects...I doubt we will take a look.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 31, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

sean,

They do for teams looking to implode and rebuild in the relatively near future, or teams looking to dump salaries. If you package enough of them together with a draft pick in a deep draft, GMGM might be able to get something out of it.

Toronto and Nashville come to mind...

Every team aside from the elite few have at least a couple of goat defensemen... don't be fooled into thinking that ours are the worst out there, or that nobody would be willing to take two or three of them in return for a decent player.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

wait a minute...

you think a team would trade a top 6 RW for Schultz or Eminger and a draft pick? why on earth would someone do that?

I really hope the Caps make the playoffs next year, but I think any moves that could be made should be made entirely with an eye to next year....We have major holes on defense and need an answer in goal...we are definitely not one player away from making a lengthy playoff run, so I sure hope GMGM does not mortgage any of the future just to get us to the first round...

the future does finally look good...the focus should be long term deal for a shutdown dman and a goalie for the future...which you probably are not going to get at the trade deadline when it is mostly player rentals....i think it would be a real mistake to go the player rental route this year....get as far as you can with this current team and then look to take the next step with a couple of offseason moves...

Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

wait a minute...

you think a team would trade a top 6 RW for Schultz or Eminger and a draft pick? why on earth would someone do that?

I really hope the Caps make the playoffs next year, but I think any moves that could be made should be made entirely with an eye to next year....We have major holes on defense and need an answer in goal...we are definitely not one player away from making a lengthy playoff run, so I sure hope GMGM does not mortgage any of the future just to get us to the first round...

the future does finally look good...the focus should be long term deal for a shutdown dman and a goalie for the future...which you probably are not going to get at the trade deadline when it is mostly player rentals....i think it would be a real mistake to go the player rental route this year....get as far as you can with this current team and then look to take the next step with a couple of offseason moves...

Posted by: cw | January 31, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

darcy tucker is a top 6 RW?
6 goals/7 assists in 44 games...

Posted by: cw | January 31, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

@Tarik,

Any news on if BB gave Erskine the business for the 3 dumb penalties he took the other night (2 of which we delay of game/puck over the glass)?? Those are such garbage penalties that we can't afford.

Posted by: Adam | January 31, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

darcy tucker isn't a top 6 forward. we'd most likely have to give up more than emmy/schultz/petty/picks for a top 6 forward, BUT, sometimes you get lucky. if a team has an aging defensive core and might be nearing the DREADED REBUILD STAGE (cough cough toronto cough cough) they might take that deal.

Posted by: capthis! | January 31, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

@Sean
You just said Suts got us a 2nd round, then you said Suts had zero value.??????

Posted by: billd | January 31, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

@Clubs

Yes, the view of the ice is great from the Acela Club. The food...not so great.

Posted by: acela | January 31, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

> Darcy Tucker would be a top 6 wing available

The only good thing that ever came from Ruutu was when he beat up Tucker.

Posted by: Papa Schultz | January 31, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

a big factor in whether we address our need for a top 6 forward or not is the health of Fehr. i have no doubt that he has potential to play on the second line.

Posted by: capthis! | January 31, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

The bigger problem is our swiss cheese defense, RW is secondary. Getting Blake would be awesome if... we'll be buyers

Posted by: Papa Schutlz | January 31, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

The Capitals are the WORST defensive team in the league? Please.

They probably were last year. Not this year.

Semin falls down a lot ... the guy is a lightweight on skates ... that doesn't mean he's diving every time he falls down.

If MTL goes up 1-0 early, there will be a fight.

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | January 31, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Do you honestly think top 6 forwards that are playing well will be traded? Darcy Tucker is not playing well, but the case could be made that he has ability...That makes him trade bait...I dont want him here..thats for sure

Posted by: SA-Town | January 31, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

@sean & Tarik
Dont see how trying to score late in a game you are already winning is worse than shooting the puck into the open net after the period ends..... Why isn't anyone talking about that. Seams to me like that is what started this whole thing.

Posted by: LIVINIT | January 31, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Poti, our #1,2 dman was #6 in Ottawa. Juice was traded for a puck, Poti has yet to score a single goal. Green sucks defensively for the most nights.

Does it ring the bell?

Posted by: Papa Schutlz | January 31, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

To the person on the last blog that said it is ridiculous for us to take 5+ years to rebuild:

Pittsburg took 6+ years... the Caps are on their 4th year. Philly is good this year because the signed a bunch of veterans - where does that get them in two to three years - right back at the bottom of the barrel.

Patience people - if you don't like it, go watch something else or just don't deal. Be a fair weather fan and only root for them when the team is winning - I don't care.

The Caps will be good - they will be like Detroit very soon - I have hope that Alex will make this happen, just like Stevie Y made it happen in motor town. You all need to relax - we have a VERY dangerous team right now. If the whole stat - not lose in regulation in consecutive games holds up... what does that say when we make the playoffs... not to mention - home ice advantage the 1st 2 rounds if we finish first in the SE.

Capsuck - I don't care what anyone says about you, I like ya... I also think the Habs were pissed that Green ran over Huet... not just the Semin shot at the end of the period.

Before this comeback - people were freaking out about not making the playoffs... get pissed when they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs - not when they are within reach. We are in the Southeast division, not the Atlantic - we should be able to get points from all of our division foes. Give it time.

Posted by: 828 | January 31, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Forget about a forward we need talented D-men right now. I don't think trading two or three people right now for one will help us any. We can't get rid of 2 dmen...we don't have enough of them to go around. Hopefully we'll get Alzner up here next year and maybe pick up some decent UFA and we'll be ok. Definately not sure that we should be tinkering too much with our offense b/c for the most part they are doing well. I think Shultz, Green and Mo will all end up doing well as dmen...they just need to grow. I think Emminger has potential and is still young but I don't see him getting the oppurtunities as the others so I don't know how well he will develop.

Posted by: nomoreforwards | January 31, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

As for running up the score - the Caps did it a few games back, can't remember who it was against - Tampa Bay maybe??? Florida?

Either way... if you don't like it - play better defense.

I don't think anyone is whinning - I just think it's a gimmick to spark the team. We will see the real character of the team tonight.

Posted by: 828 | January 31, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

@828- I agree..everyone just needs to be patient. I think we have an awesome team and I can't believe that people are still unhappy with everything. They are so much fun to watch and have so much character. We are going to be awesome in the near future (we're pretty awesome now actually for such a young team) and they will definately bring home the Stanley Cup one of these days. Have faith in BB and his system and the guys..they'll get it done!

Posted by: K | January 31, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

@LIVINIT

I know there are a lot of comments to sort through, but I wrote that Semin's antics are likely the reason the Habs went for that late goal.

Posted by: Tarik | January 31, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Club

Yes you can watch and eat. Hope the Caps play better tonight or else the food and game will both suk

Posted by: Bob | January 31, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Alright, I've said before that there's not going to be any significant action before the deadline on the Caps' part, unless a couple more teams bottom out in the next week or so and the market opens up a bit more to drive the prices down. I am curious to know, since we seem to be playing armchair GM for a day, what you guys would consider giving up for a good RW: Marian Hossa - who is widely believed to be on the trade market and is a UFA this July.

I personally don't think we've got what it takes without giving up some serious prospects, but I'm curious to know what others think.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

can't imagine Atlanta would trade him within the division....and we would be crazy to trade for him unless we knew that we could sign him in the offseason

as I said, I really hope we do not get in to the rental player market...this team is really headed in the right direction....maybe a year or two from now will be the time to get the rental player, when that player could make the difference in going deep in the playoffs...

Posted by: cw | January 31, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I thought about Hossa - Nylander and Hossa - they make about the same amount of money... I think Hossa is worth more - but def would like to see him as a Cap across from Alex. If he is an UFA - we don't have to give up anything - just need to sign him and dish out the money.

Posted by: 828 | January 31, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

puckguru, do us all a favor, continue NOT posting here, its much nicer that way

Posted by: why | January 31, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I'll be there, section 214, row A seat 13

Posted by: Mitch | January 31, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

828,

The thought is that he won't make it to UFA status because he'll be traded before he becomes a UFA on July 1.

I wouldn't mind him on the team if it's for the long haul.

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

cw,

Good point on the division aspect, but stranger things have happened.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=3220135&campaign=rss&source=NHLHeadlines

There's Burnsides' run-down of players thought to be on the block. Note that Olie is one of them.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Jordan,

I don't think that trading him makes a difference in whether or not he becomes a UFA in July. The only thing that could stop that is him signing with the team he's been traded to. He could very well go somewhere as a rental and decide that he'd still like to try to go for big money on the UFA market.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@828

Thanks from one hockey fan to the next...

however, I have to humbly disagree one one point in one of your previous posts.

in 2-3 years I think Philly is going to have a cup. Not this year, but soon. And I say this as merely a fan of the sport.

Yes, they signed some vets, but what you have to take note of is their young guys. Look at whats been going on with them lately...they are getting scoring from mostly young players.

Hartnell has been on fire
Richards is going to be captain of that team some day
Carter has nearly 20 goals
Umberger has been dishing the puck very well this year
Lupul, if he gets his head back on after that hit, he will put in 30-40 a year
Downie has shown he has the makings of a great hockey player.

Goaltending, Biron is good if he plays everyday.

The young core they have with the vets they have, they are going to be dangerous if they remain consistent.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

HolyOlie,

Yeah, I meant that we'd want to lock him up before then if we ever got him, though.

And as for that ESPN article, Garon works for me.

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

OMG the world is falling apart... and the sky is falling and the seas are boiling and the Caps lost to the hottest team in the East!!!

OMG OMG

Its ok guys, we'll see what happens. Im not worried.

No trades unless their amazing. Just get everyone healthy and let AO crush in his first p-word(s)

Posted by: Metal Cap \nn/ | January 31, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I think the Caps need to stand pat, unless they can get something to help out with a couple picks. Trading prospects, which is what the last few years and the rebuild have been all about, would not be intelligent.

The thing about this team is that while there are clear holes in the roster, there are guys in the pipeline that are likely going to fill them.

Let's say we trade for a new goalie, or sign one for big bucks in the off-season. What happens if/when one of our prospects is ready in a season or two to be a starter? Do you know what happens? The same thing that happened in Anaheim -- they felt forced to put Bryzgalov on waivers to bring up their goalie of the future.

Do we all want the Stanley Cup this year? Yes...but if the moves were made to be a true contender this year, 2 or 3 years down the line we'll be the Lightning who have 3 fowards who are taking up way too much cap space. You need to build through the draft, value your picks, and sign guys to reasonable contracts to fill the holes.

If this team can make the playoffs minus Nylander, minus Clark for 50%+ of the season, minus Pothier for who knows how long, with goalies who together are struggling to save over 90% of the shots against...not to mention the terrible start to the season...this will be an extremely productive season. It's a process people...even if it can be painful at times.

Posted by: Jeff | January 31, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

@ Jeff

AMEN!

Posted by: Metal Cap | January 31, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Semin's a diver.

Posted by: Sea Hunt | January 31, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

CapsSuck,

Ehh, remove the vets and you got the Caps... that's all I see. Right now, they remind me of the Hurricanes a few years ago - or the Sabres of last year... what happened when the Vets left? They fell... I don't see them winning the cup, but then again, I didn't see Carolina or Tampa Bay winning the cup a few years ago.

Detroit is due in the next year or so, if not this year. Boston is starting to look really good as well - with young "matured" talent, good defense, and great goalies.

I just see Philly bricking like they do in all their sports. They are good, but we shall see what happens.

Posted by: 828 | January 31, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Kovalchuk will probably miss just a couple of games, nothing too serious. Here's a link to the AJC story about it:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/thrashers/stories/2008/01/31/kovy_0201.html

Posted by: Mike | January 31, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I like Hossa...I think he'd be good. It's also obvious Burnside doesn't know what he's talking about. DC would never give up Olie no matter how bad he's playing. I also agree with Jeff. We have a lot of good guys in the pipeline and while we'll probably make the playoffs this year I don't really think we'll be able to do well enough to get the Stanley Cup. It woudl be nice but not necessarily realistic. Just making it to the playoffs would be pretty darn impressive considering the last couple of years and the start of this year. I think in a couple years we'll start bringing them home. Our defense will be more mature, our offense will too and I can only imagine them all getting better with time. Just my 2 cents though...

Posted by: kcme | January 31, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Jeff,

I know and I'm in complete agreement with you. I just think it's fun playing GM every once in a while.

I disagree with you on the goalie situation, though. None of the guys on the farm are going to be ready next season, and I have serious doubts that the Caps will be able to get any further than they have this season with the Olie-Johnny duo between the pipes (and that is the objective, isn't it?). It had been thought that Olie still had a few years left in him as the workhorse goalie - long enough to bridge the gap to one of the new kids, but now that looks like it might not be the case.

Garon has a year left on his contract - long enough to get us through at least next season. I think it would be reasonable to bring in him or a goalie of similar caliber for a couple of years to be the starter while Neuvirth or Varlamov plays backup and eventually takes over.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

@Jeff

Jeff knows that he is talking about. Some people on this board want Olie traded straight up for a 2nd line winger and Goalie prospect....it's not gonna happen..Cheer for what you got cause it aint changing. The whole league recognizes that our future is bright...we cant shake that up.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 31, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

And I also point out that it might not be Olie going in exchange. Johnny is a little younger and has better numbers recently, and might be more attractive in trade value.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

philly will probably choke in the playoffs and their vets are locked up for a while; however, that was the bobby clarke era. Holmgren doesnt seem to take any crap.
Some argue he is an extension of clarke, but you can see the way he has built the team, he is different. Just ask Tony Voce and why he isnt still in the organization. He complained about ice time and Holmgren loaned him away to san antonio and wont let him back in.

Philly has a few guys in the organization that will be very good in a few years too.

Boston I hate so I dont ever want to see them win anything. They play boring hockey, but I do like Tim Thomas.

Im not a Detroit fan either, but if they keep going they will win the cup, unless they choke in the playoffs once again.

I read everyone here says keep what you have, but if you are that close to the playoffs and you want that extra push, you are going to have to give up a prospect or 2 to get something in return. Remember, the draft happens every year and all signs point to a healthy draft class.

If the Caps are close to the playoffs and dont pull off a move or 2 that will help them now, it will further solidify why I do not like them. Yes, its mostly management.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

One last thing - Johnson is also a heck of a lot less expensive than Olie, and is less dear to the fan base.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

In that I 'get' to watch Darcy Tucker 41 nights a year...he's a good s**t disturber who brings it every night; classic guy who, if on your team, you love him- if not, you hate him. Last year he scored a bunch of goals on the powerplay; this year not so much. In short...decent rental and a good 2nd/3rd line winger. Doesn't go hiding in the playoffs.

Games are 60 minutes; if you don't want the other team to score play better defence. How you handle it speaks volumes about who you are.

Ruutu is one of these guys who, because of the instigator rule, runs around feeling a lot bigger than he needs to because he won't be held accountable, and he'll probably have a case of 'Atlanta Flu' the next time Pittsburg plays Atlanta (i.e. he won't play). Of course he didn't fight; guys like him run around, and when called on it, they turtle. Minus the instigator rule, guys like him wouldn't pull any of this crap because they'd have to 'answer the bell'; it's gotta kill a good egg like Laraque to have to be this guy's policeman.

Without going too medieval, keep in mind that Pittsburg has Crosby already out injured, giving Ruutu bigger 'raisins' in that he knows there won't be retribution on Pittsburg's star. You think he slew-foots Kovalchuk if Crosby is healthy? I'm just saying...

Posted by: Patrick | January 31, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

It would irresponsible of McPhee to not test the market leading up to the deadline. The Capitals have a wealth of draft picks that can be used to suppliment any possible deal.

I'm not saying he has to make a deal, or that any deal he does make should be for a Hossa-caliber player. The trade deadline could be a good way to address some short-term holes on this team.

Trading for a player who will become a UFA after the season is over could be a good move if the Capitals are on the verge of making the playoffs.

For one, it gives the core of the team a chance to get some playoff experience. For two, it brings in some much-needed revenue for Ted, which will factor into his ability to sign players in the future. Finally, it does these without locking the team into a long-term contract that, as Jeff points out, could stymie the development of some of the prospects.

Posted by: John in Mpls | January 31, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

CapsSuck - here is an article for you: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22792668/site/21683474/

I stopped reading it...

I thinkt he Caps can make the playoffs with that they got right now. Score 6 a game, they can beat anyone. When they are focused, they are fine.

We shall see - we have a lot of young talent in the system... I just don't like the idea of "renting" a player. I want the guys that have had to suck it up for the past few years to get the reward... not some chump from another team... unless it's a goalie. We need that the most. But, they aren't going to do anything... you know it, I know it, and yellow dog knows it. It just ain't gonna happen. But, to be honest, I would rather finish dead last in the league than 9th place in the Eastern Conf or 2nd in the SE div... we could use another guy like Alex... or even another guy like Phaneuf.

Posted by: 828 | January 31, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Alex is one of a kind - but you know what I mean

Posted by: 828 | January 31, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

@828...amazing..I can't believe the media. So now Malkin is the golden child. Do these people even watch hockey...I can name a dozen other players that are more interesting to watch then Malkin. P-l-e-a-s-e!!! Now I'm irritated :)

Posted by: k | January 31, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

@capssuck
Please tell me how Semin dove on both of those calls. The first call he was skating and the Can stuck his leg out and tripped him and it was almost like a knee on knee. Then the second was an obvious trip, he tugged on his leg a little bit.

Posted by: Thomas | January 31, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Re: Hossa
I get the feeling that Atlanta might think it's more important to make the playoffs and lose Hossa to FA than miss the playoffs and look to be "rebuilding". So if they trade him, it would have to be for established players.

As for the Caps, GMGM will probably try to find another Jurcina. i.e. a secondary player he thinks just needs ice time. Of course, we also got Novotny with this thinking.

Posted by: tallbear | January 31, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Im not saying rent a player. Go out and get a D man that you have a solid chance of re signing. The standings are WAY too close right now to say who is going to be on the block..that is unless you are LA, TB, and possibly TOR.

Id rather see a few picks and a prospect for a good D man...im not talking a big name star of the team, just a guy that you can depend on day in and day out!

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,
My Bad.........


Posted by: LIVINIT | January 31, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

@ Thomas

I never said he dove on both of those. I just said he does dive. Never specified when...but i think everyone agrees, he is too easy to knock down.
Bad balance? Maybe?
Lack of strength? possibly?
Diving? likely?

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't that Poti? A solid D-guy we can usually depend on day to day?

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

What a dirty hit. He should have been pounded into oblivian for that nonsense.

There's been some references in the comments about "The Code". For those of you who haven't read "The Code" by Ross Bernstein, I highly recommend. It provides a great description of the informal rules of engagement in different cicumstances. So, when medium size agitator like Ruutu hits someone, usually he gets punished by another middle size guy. But, make a questionable hit on a superstar, and you get to face whoever they want to send.

Note that Ruutu didn't "show up", he just turtled. Nice.

Posted by: old time hockey | January 31, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

That's what Poti was supposed to be...I don't like him. Also Tarik said that Semin's imbalance may come from the way he skates (he said it quite a few blogs ago)..I can't remember exactly how he said Semin skates though...

Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Jordan,

Tarik mentioned in one of his Friday chats a couple weeks ago that Poti has been playing with a bum shoulder for a while that has been limiting his range of movement.

Tarik,

Any input on this?

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 31, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

You need more than Poti though.

Look at the best teams out there. They usually have 1 superstar D man, and 2 or 3 other solid guys that can be depended on day after day.

Green is good..but IMO, find a D to replace him and put him on a wing. He is too offensive minded.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I tend to agree, tallbear.

However, the trade deadline is at the end of February. One month can make a big difference in the standings, and if the Thrashers fall, there will be a lot of offers for Hossa.

Much of it will also be based on negotiations between both sides. If there's no chance he's re-signing, you really have to consider moving him. As hard as it is for fans, you have to try to get something for him in that case.

Either way, it looks like the Sens are going to be on the phone. They want Hossa back, even if it's just for a playoff run.

Posted by: John in Mpls | January 31, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

@tarik,

Nice reply to the angry mob. Maybe the game will start with Brashear pounding on someone to set the tone and to demonstrate that the Caps are unhappy about being showed up by the Habs.

Posted by: old time hockey | January 31, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Tonight will say a lot about BB. If he place the team on ice as two days ago, thinking we're the best and can destroy everybody... I'm sorry but I predict another 4-0 Habs. Need to play smarter against a stronger team.

I hope the Caps surprise me tonight and win :) and I hope AO plays better.

BTW, Ruutu might be an a$$ but that hit wasn't intentional.

Posted by: mauree | January 31, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

4-2 habs
2 pp goals 1 en

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

5-3 Caps

OV(2), Kozlov, Semin, and SHAONE MORRISONN score.

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for Erskine to send me sailing over the glass! WEEEEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: The Puck | January 31, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to hook somebody in the offensive zone!

Posted by: Semin's Stick | January 31, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Good to see that Kovalchuk is not seriously injured and will only miss a few games.

Posted by: BearsWoooo | January 31, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm warming up a seat for Erskine awhile. He will be in here soon!

Posted by: The Penalty Box | January 31, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Caps Suck: you are an idiot

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Score 6 and you shall win

Posted by: Finn | January 31, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

While I agree with whomever just posted using my name, I don't appreciate someone pretending to be me.

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

@ Papa Schultz

"Poti, our #1,2 dman was #6 in Ottawa. Juice was traded for a puck, Poti has yet to score a single goal."

Ummm Papa Schultz, I think you need to do a little more research on your teamates. Poti never played for Ottawa and actually he was a top pairing dman for the NYI last season. Pothier was the #6 for Ottawa.

For some reason Poti isnt alone in his goal scoring struggles this season. Before his former Islander teamate Kozlov scored recently he, like Poti is now, was in the longest goal scoring drought of his careers. I imagine, like Kozlov, he come out of it soon enough. I agree it would help if he was contributing.

Posted by: captnclark | January 31, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

As I've mentioned before, I will rule the Osten Conference for years to come. Here's the proof from Ted:


Wednesday, January 30, 2008
Shoe on The Other Foot
I had a very interesting phone call with a senior level executive at a NHL team who said to me, "Can you believe that you drafted Alex Ovechkin, Jeff Schultz and Mike Green in the same year at the draft in 2004?"

He told me that several GMs had to explain why they didn't pick Schultz with the 27th pick in the draft or Mike Green, who leads all NHL D men in goals, with the 29th pick in the draft. Mark Fistric, D of Dallas, was picked one spot before Mike Green in case you were wondering. Both Schultz and Green were noted by this exec to be top 4 D men in the NHL for many, many years to come.

It was nice to participate in a call like that and that sure was a productive draft for us. And I guess that first pick of Alex Ovechkin turned out OK too.


Papa 'Panzer' Schultze

Posted by: Papa "Panzer" Schultz | January 31, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

@captnclark

Sorry, hyard to typ[e in gloives...

I meant Pothier...

Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

That was me...

@captnclark

Sorry, hyard to typ[e in gloives...

I meant Pothier...

Posted by: Papa Schultze | January 31, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

@Mauree

I am ashamed of you... Where's the Italian spirit... I advice you to take a deep breath, close your eyes and imagine that Habs are actually Pens. Now open your eyes and give us inspirational speech how to handle Habs tonight...

Posted by: Papa 'Panzer' Schultz | January 31, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@old time hockey.
Where can I read Tarik's nice reply to the angry mob?

And, lets hope the Caps don't start the game with Brashear pounding someone. The last thing this team needs is the Habs with an extra man advantage - they do know how to score in a power-play, unfortunately, unlike the Caps.

Posted by: Opita | January 31, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

@mauree

BTW, Ruutu is still an a$$, whatever he does

Posted by: Papa Schultze | January 31, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

It is insane, there are negatives comments about Semin and Backstrom. They are not perfect, but I am sure glad we have those two. A few days ago, an anonymous poster asked if there was some xenophobia feelings, at that time I thought it was a crazy question, but now, I am not sure ...

Posted by: Opita | January 31, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

sorry Jordan.. there are probably a few others in the world with the same name, it's really not uncommon.. i'll go with Jordan2 from here on out..

Posted by: Jordan2 | January 31, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Haha, no prob. I just thought it might have been someone (Caps Suck) trying to get under my skin.

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Optia...I love Semin and Backstrom. There are mistakes that are made but I'm ok with that. I hope we keep Semin here just as long as AO. By the way, Alex said that Semin is more open with the guys in the locker room then he is with the media and fans. Alex says he just takes awhile to get to know someone...

Posted by: Anonymous | January 31, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Jordan - i agree, i think caps sux posts under several handles. his comment of green being too offense minded was idiotic. (as well as alot of the stuff he posts)

i suppose he believes bobby orr and paul coffey would have been better off as forwards too..

Posted by: Jordan2 | January 31, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Semin is only going to get better. He needs to get a little tougher and not worry about drawing penalties. Has anyone posting today ever seen a more wicked "twisted wrister".

Posted by: Esa Tikkanen | January 31, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Tarik is a essentially a "company man" and that's understandable.
Everything starts from the top and Tarik is in fact a messenger, because god for bid he sways, then he's finished.
Poor Tarik, I wish you well in that climb to the top of wherever it is your going.
"It's not your fault" Know it, Live it.

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

@Opita

Where did you see a single negative comment about Backstrom?

As of Semin, if he scores, I don't have any problems with him, but whatever adjectives you use to describe him, always use one more, 'a troublemaker'.

He and Emery would make a pair...

Wait a minute, if you see some negativity about Emery, are you gonna say something too?

Posted by: Papa 'Panzer' Schultz | January 31, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, because I have all the time in the world to post under different handles.

Yes, i think Green is too offensive minded. Look what happened..he cant play with anyone besides Mo. Put him on the wing, drop laing back..why not?

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

@ Papa Panzer

Did Ted receive Mad Props for coming in last and winning the lottery in order to acquire AO ?
Did GM & Scouts get all the credit for that demonstration of incredible competence ?

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

btw...orr and coffey were 2 players that made anyone, skating beside them, better.

Green is not at that level. He needs to learn to play D first.

The Toronto games highlighted some of his flaws.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Because Green isn't a winger and Quintin isn't a defenseman.

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

@Opita,

Xenophobia? I'm curious, if someone says something critical about Nick or Alex S, how does that mean that they have a problem with Sweden and Russia..? Could it just mean that they dislike something that a player did? I'm fans of both of those guys so don't be throwing an "X" label my direction for questioning.

Posted by: Steve R | January 31, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

They are only D and F on paper Jordan.

The fluidity of Green's skating says natural forward.

Laing's uncanny ability to get in front of anything that is shot and his willingness to get beat up in front of the net says he has all the makings of a great stay at home D man.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh, ok. Maybe you should run that by Boudreau, then. Let me know what he says.

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Hold on, let me get a hold of him on the bat phone.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Just because a player can play either position does not mean they should (or can) be switched.
Last I checked, Laing may not be able to skate nearly well enough backwards as a regular NHL D-man. That right there kills him playing D.
A D-man is by far the most dificult position, maybe keeping things simple for Laing is by far better.

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"The Code" (a very good read especially for folks new to the sport) explains why the instigator rule is such an abomination; guys like Ruutu and his ilk run around and, because of that stupid rule, aren't made to have to answer the bell. Sorry to the delicate flowers out there, but knowing that someone like Laraque is going to beat the living crap out of you as retribution for a slew foot might keep you from slew footing someone.
Is it barbaric? In a word...yes. Remember, people want to see guys like Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, Crosby, etc. Dislike it, but it keeps the game honest. Look at that Gretzky fellow; he had Semenko and McSorley keeping him from getting drilled. You can only wonder what the guys in Pittsburg's room think of it; I'm talking guys like Gary Roberts (who's a tough nasty SOB). Unrelated to that code- you never, ever shoot the puck at the other team's net after the period. I don't know if Semin did this or not. I'm just saying it's a big time no-no.

Posted by: Patrick | January 31, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Also, Laing appears to be pretty small. isn't that a requirement for a defenseman?

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

@ Chief,

The Caps didn't finish in last that season, at least not last in the NHL. They had to beat the odds to win the Ovechkin lottery.

No one gets credit for Ovechkin landing in this organization in the first place (that is, unless you're a person of faith).

Posted by: John in Mpls | January 31, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Laing has been a professional hockey player for a lot of years for a reason. You could be as slow as you want, if you know how to play good positional hockey that will make up for it. And we all know he plays great positional hockey.

Think about it...what if Mo for some unknown reason didnt return tonight or for the foreseeable future? and Poti..who knows about him. Green is obviously struggling a bit without his regular partner. Heck, if the team is in a bind and needs an offensive boost, put Green up..he obviously is not giving much offense without Mo in the lineup.

Laing isnt there to score goals, he is the type of player who would put kolzig' pads on if asked.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone mentioned that if the Caps score 6, they win?

Oh, that's right - Finn... Steve R - they know the deal...

Final score tonight:

7-4 Caps...

Semin with a hat trick, Green, Ovechkin, Poti (gets his first), and Backstrom...

Get me some wings BB...

I'm out - see you all at the game.

Posted by: 828 | January 31, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

oh..and Laing is listed as 6-2 200

Green 6-1 200

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

PS, bring a hat that you don't like...

Posted by: 828 | January 31, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I agree that in pinch many guys can fill in, but going against the grain for a guy new to the show is just asking to put him in an unfavorable position. That's not really in his best interest as a developing player is it ?
I say leave what works in place and go to GM for what you need in order to win.
The only problem is that we will all have to endure the pain associated with being satisfied with a few wins here and there before a real GM gets in.

Make no mistake. GM is the SOLE reason why the Washington Caps will Never contend.

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

@CapsSuck,

Laing looks so much smaller than that. Ah, what do i know. Maybe it's the lack of teeth

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

@ john mpls

Whatever makes you feel better.
Does not change the fact that it had nothing to do with Ted, GM.

Ever since the lock out, the NHL has essentially become Dummy proof, something Ted & GM needed more than anything

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Chief, I agree with most of what you just said.

Heck, I would start by putting Green as the 2nd forward out in a 4 on 4 situation.

See how he works out.

For as many shots as Laing blocks, he'd be the leader in shot blocks if he were a D man.

Could you imagine seeing Green on an end to end rush EVERY time he is on the ice, not just once in a while. Not to mention the added benefits of having him being defensive minded enough in his own zone to prevent goals.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Lainger is out there with Steckel all the time could have something to do with it, Lee.

Posted by: Jordan | January 31, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

@ capsSuck,

I'm still out on Green being all that. I believe he's been able to fly under the radar for some time.
Don't get me wrong, he's legit.
Now that he's on every Caps scouting report to the opposition, I look foward to seeing how he plays and produces.
That's where a guy like AO is simply a freak of nature.

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

@Jordan,

Good point! a lot of people look small next to Steckel.

hey everyone:
Isn't it great to watch a conversation about the team posed by two people who are obviously not fans? (Chief and CapsSuck). Although I will give CapsSuck credit; today you have made some good comments.

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I was a fan of the Caps..just not in recent years.

Chief - AO is a league of his own, no matter what team he is on he is going to score 50 a year.

Green isnt so much under the radar anymore. Teams now expect to see him wheel out of his own zone and unload one from inside the blue line. I just think he has a lot of offensive upside. Teams back off him because of his speed, and if you put him up front, the opposing D now has to deal with him not stopping at the blue line.

I think that with 14 goals, he could score 30-40 up front if he is with the right people.

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

But green doesn't stop at the blue line now. Especially when teamed with Mo, he knows he can go deep in the zone.

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

To the person that asked about Fehr, not sure if anyone responded to you but here is my take on what I have seen. he has been playing the puck well and has been extremely physical. I honestly cannot tell he was injuried his forechecking is fine and he has been causing some traffic in front of the net. probably one of the bears best weapons. He is sitting at a -1 right now but he seems to have fire in his eyes you know that killer instinct. All of this is just my opinion of what I have seen in the 9 games he has been back.

Posted by: Chad | January 31, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Ok.
I think he's better served mastering his position at both ends before switching him around, then again he has nobody worthy to mentor him on D.
What a pathetic situation, to have potential on the blue line, yet let it never develop.
It's plain sad when you look at other teams selling out constantly.
I heard the Pens sold out 37 consecutive times, same goes for plenty of other teams.
They couldn't even sell out last time in playoffs.
If that's not a clear indication that hockey in DC sucks, then I don't know what is.
I "was" a fan until it became OBVIOUS that GM needs to be fired (2001-2002), I'll always be a fan of the players but the front office needs to go.

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

You are right Lee..when he is with Mo he can go deep into the zone, but the last few games he has been off.

He is a great weapon to have coming out of the back end, but Im telling ya...putting him up front would pay a lot of dividends!

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

@Chief, What whappened that year that turned you against the front office? I was out of the area at the time (Army) so i wasn't able to follow as closely.

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

@CapsSuck,

I did propose that earlier in the season when Ovie was the ONLY person scoring, but that got violently shot down. I'm still on the fence.

Posted by: Lee | January 31, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

@Chief: If "a D-man is by far the most dificult position", how much more difficult is it to find a legit D-man who can consistently play offense as well and skate with the best players on the ice? Green needs to stay on the blue line. He has the potential to turn into a perennial all-star there.

Posted by: Fred | January 31, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Could be worse...the isles had less than 10g the other night

Posted by: CapsSuck | January 31, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

@ Fred

That's what I've been saying, Keep him at D
Read my post, CapSuck was saying forward

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Just talked to Mo.

He told me he doesn't know if he's playing or not yet. He said he will go through the pregame warmup and then they will decide.

So you might not see me or Eminger tonight, up to BB.

Too bad, I want to execute a go ahead goal with my 1/2 slap shot tonight

Posted by: Papa 'Panzer' Schultz | January 31, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

@Chief

Has anyone ever thought that maybe there is more to do in D.C then Pittsburgh? Why do you care if they sold out every game? They have no basketball either. Most people from D.C arent from here, and most people in Pissburgh are too dumb to leave, and have watched Lemieux hoist Staley cups..What a terrible analogy.

The only sport to ever work in this town is football because it's only 8 games! Who cant sell out 8 games? Unless we put together a constant winner, who would it be sold out? Please explain.

Posted by: SA-Town | January 31, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

1/2 slap shot.... More like 1/3 of Chara's slap shot. Looks like a Texas leaguer.

Posted by: Steve R | January 31, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

@ Steve R.
You either misread what I wrote or are having problems comprehending it. Here is what I wrote: "... A few days ago, an anonymous poster asked if there was some xenophobia feelings, at that time I thought it was a crazy question, but now, I am not sure ...". Notice I did not mention your name, nor I claimed anyone was xenophobic, I merely quoted an Anonymous post, I also said that it was a crazy idea, but that now I am not sure.
For your information, I am including the Anonymous post that I was referring, He does quote you, and the more I read it, the more I think you and that other guy sound xenophobic in that quote, if that quote is yours.

"@Esa,

"There's alot of honor in North American hockey and diving is not part of the program"

Last I checked, Semin is from Europe.

Posted by: Steve R | January 30, 2008 11:30 AM

Steve R
------------------------------------------
I know. That's the point.

Posted by: Esa Tikkanen | January 30, 2008 11:54 AM"
-------------------------------------------

What a crock of SH*T!!!
Suffering from a bit of xenophobia?


Posted by: | January 30, 2008 01:11 PM


Posted by: Opita | January 31, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

@Opita,

Last I checked xenophobia was the fear / hatred of outsiders / other countries etc.

On the board there might be some xenophobia regarding Pitt or Buff, but Europeans..? That's a stretch. Me, I'm sarcastic, not xenophobic. No need to make things obfuscated.

Posted by: Steve R | January 31, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

@Opita
I'm on your side bro'. GEEZ. It was just a thought. I'm off to the game.

Posted by: Esa Tikkanen | January 31, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Just curious, is Schultz a tall glass of water with or without ice ?
He's terrible and a wimp.

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

@ sa

Go sell crazy somewhere else.
Not selling out at home for playoffs is a joke, no other city would have it and no other owner would Cry like a baby and blame the fans.
Maybe if the owner would look in the mirror he would realize that he looks just like AZAMAT, then start taking responsibility.

Posted by: Chief | January 31, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

@ Papa 'Panzer' Schultz

You ask for a single negative comment of Backstrom, check the one posted on January 30, 2008 11:36 PM. I grant you there are not many.

Now, you provide me with a single link, quote, of a player or coach that states that Semin is a "troublemaker". The ball is on your court.

Is the following question you posed to me, sarcasm?, stupidity? or what? "Wait a minute, if you see some negativity about Emery, are you gonna say something too?" What does that have to do with anything? Emery does not play for the Capitals, I have no idea what kind of player he is, and I definitely will not make a judgement on him based on what some folks on a forum are saying. But, yes I will say something if I know he is being attacked with baseless comments.

Posted by: Opita | January 31, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

@steve R.
I was just answering your post and backing my statement.

@Eza
Geez, it was just one of your quotes,

I hope you both enjoy the game. I know I will.

Posted by: Opita | January 31, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

@steve R.
I was just answering your post and backing my statement.

@Eza
Geez, it was just one of your quotes,

I hope you both enjoy the game. I know I will.

Posted by: Opita | January 31, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

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