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Bolts Trade Prospal to Flyers, Re-Sign Boyle

Let the fun begin.

Tampa Bay just announced that it has traded winger Vaclav Prospal to the Flyers for defenseman Alexandre Picard and a second or third round draft pick.

Then moments ago, the Lightning announced that it has re-signed defenseman Dan Boyle to a six year contract. is reporting it's worth $40 million. That probably ends Brad Richards's run with the Bolts.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  February 25, 2008; 10:14 PM ET
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Interesting. Can't wait to see what other trades are made!

Posted by: SLM | February 25, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I was expecting the Flyers to land Richards. They just seam to love over paid players so much. Good rental move by the Flyers though i must admit.

Posted by: DC FURY | February 25, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Too bad about V.Prospal... I mean we didnt have anybody nearly as talented as A.Picard to entice TB.

Career Totals 72gm 3g 19ast 22pts -24+/- 23pims

I mean he's a stud.

Posted by: JSchon | February 25, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Tampa re-signs Dan Boyle. 6 years, $40 million, per TSN.

Mike Green, are you paying attention?

Posted by: Dinger | February 25, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

M.Green is going to fetch 5 million a year in an open market...

Posted by: JSchon | February 25, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Easily. Thankfully he won't ever touch the open market.

He could get an offer sheet that size if GMGM is dumb enough to let this drag on into RFA season, but the Caps would match it in a heartbeat.

By the way, is it just me or does $40 million seem like a LOT for Tampa to be spending on Boyle?

Posted by: Dinger | February 25, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I mean "would" fetch...

Posted by: JSchon | February 25, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Personally i'd like to see the caps stay put trade wise, but re-sign Green and Laing. We have the missing pieces as far as a second line center goes (Nylander) a gritty RW (Clark) and a boost on defense (Pothier) the only problem is injury if just Pothier or Clark could come back it would be just like making a blockbuster deadline deal. Goaltending remains a question, but for now let's just make sure we have Green tied down, and ensure that we'll be able to see Laing's gleeful, toothless grin next season.

Posted by: DC FURY | February 25, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I think it's pretty obvious that Pothier isn't anywhere close to coming back, and with 19 games left in the season, that by its very definition means his season is probably over.

Clark is in a similar situation, but from how Tarik describes the situation, it doesn't appear that he's anywhere near being able to skate full-speed again. Ignore for a moment that his conditioning won't be anywhere close to where it needs to be when he does return, and the blockbuster aspect of his return is diminished significantly.

This team needs to make a move if they're going to get to the postseason, but there aren't many true suitors.

The biggest prize still 'out there' is Marian Hossa, but there's no way A) Atlanta trades him within the division and B) McPhee would pony up the assets Waddell would demand in return.

The team's most tradeable asset is Kolzig, and given the doubtful nature of his return next season, I wouldn't shy away from moving him if the right deal (read: a second line centre or rugged defenseman) presented itself.

Posted by: Dinger | February 25, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

This is not the right place, I know, but...
There is a Caps Viewing Party / Fundraiser for the Wilson High School Hockey program on Friday the 29th at Clyde's next to VC. Perhaps you remember the story of the passing of Wilson's coach that ran in the Washington Post.

A bunch of Caps Bloggers are trying to raise money for the program. Auction items include an Ovechkin signed stick. A Darren Machesney team signed stick from the Bears and more.

Details here:

Posted by: Attending | February 25, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Good for you for spreading the word. We are all hockey fans in DC so i'd say this is the perfect place. I'll be sure to stop by.

Posted by: DC FURY | February 25, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Tarik - now is your chance to shine, toss us a bone on any caps trade rumors you have. You are the single best source of insight into the highly secretive capitals, so tomorrow when hockey web sites will be slow and crashing, I will be here looking to your blog for the news. Keep up the great work - thanks.

Posted by: CapsFan | February 25, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

I LLLLOOOOOVVVVVEEE the trade deadline! Its my favorite time of the year.

Posted by: Oh yeah!! | February 25, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Okay, here's my half-baked trade scenario:

Washington sends Olaf Kolzig to the Ottawa Senators for Ray Emery.

It's a straight-up goaltender swap, but it makes some sense for both teams. Ottawa's goaltending has routinely been it's achilles' heel in the playoffs (see: Lalime, Patrick) and their current No. 1, Martin Gerber, has been struggling down the stretch (2-3-1, 3.54, .859 in last 6 GPI). Meanwhile, Emery was the netminder who led Ottawa to the Stanley Cup Finals last season, and has spent the better part of the season falling out of favor with Ottawa's management by repeatedly showing up late for practice. The Caps, meanwhile, are looking for their next stud goaltender as Kolzig has shown his age this season, while Brent Johnson's ability to be a No. 1 netminder again is still uncertain. Kolzig could potentially be a rental for Ottawa as he will be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season, though in the short-term he gives the team proven depth in goal and could be capable of assuming a backup role should the Sens decide Gerber is their man beyond this season. Emery has two years left on a three year, $9.5 million deal he signed last summer, which would be a bargain for the Caps compared to the $5 million per season they have been paying Kolzig. While not a move that is likely to vault them back into the thick of the Eastern Conference playoff hunt, acquiring a netminder of Emery's ability could solidify Washington's goaltending situation for years to come. Ottawa's coach John Paddock has said he expects the Sens to be buyers at the trade deadline, and the team could likely benefit from a wake-up call following last night's 5-0 loss to rival Toronto, during which Emery was in goal.

Posted by: Dinger | February 25, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Ok, you guys hate Semin for not being a "team player", which is a load of bull. And you want to trade for a guy who plainly is NOT a team player? Crazy. If we're trading for any goalies, we need to get Halak or Roloson. Guys who can play and don't sleep in and miss practice. Seriously. You make no sense.

Posted by: Whiter Mage | February 25, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

can you provide the link to the article you wrote that Bettman commented on when he was on WaPo Live last? (aren't run on sentences fun?)...And what did he say?

Posted by: fullright | February 25, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Asked about the team's plans for veteran goaltender Olie Kolzig, who will be a unrestricted free agent this summer, McPhee declined to comment. But it's believed that the Caps are not talking about an extension with Kolzig at the moment, and that any such talks likely wouldn't happen until the offseason.

Translation: SEE YA LATER OLIE! It was nice knowing YA! If it doesn't happen tomorrow, it will most likely happen during the off season. If gmgm's quote seems familiar, it is. Just incase you haven't been paying attention Olie here's how it will happen. gmgm will come to you and tell you he wants to get your deal done, but his hands are tied right now and besides you have the playoffs to worry about. Don't worry he'll take care of you. Then the season will end. You and your agent will have a better chance of finding Jimmy Hoffa then getting a hold of gmgm. After sometime and plenty of excuses you'll receive an offer, A LOW BALL offer. When you try to counter, you'll hear how he would like to do more but his hands are again tied. Meanwhile, you won't know this, (unless you're reading this now) he will already be getting out the story that you wanted too much money/too long of a contract and he couldn't afford to keep you. What he'll tell you, it will be tough for him, but after all he needs to "build for the future." But hey, he'll have a special position within the organization for you when you're ready. And yet again, another long time respected Capitals player is sent off. Don't believe me? Call Peter Bondra, Jeff Halpern, Calle Johansson, or Dale Hunter just to name a few. By the way, that special position involves picking up gmgm's dry cleaning. Remember, NO TICKY NO LAUNDRY!

Posted by: someone else who knows | February 26, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

'Twas the night before trade deadline and all through the CAPS rink not a transaction was stirring, not even for Graham Mink.
Well here we are less than 15 hours away from the trade deadline and gmgm and the CAPS cracked scouting department are busy working the lines (calling Dominos, what am I thinking, Uncle Ted left his credit card, does Morton's deliver?) in their WAR Room no doubt. Exciting times, yes exciting times. As other teams are evaluating talent for deals to help their clubs for the playoffs and beyond the Caps Stand Pat. Or will they? Interesting how most teams are striving to make the playoff, however the company line from gmgm and his crew turns to the old reliable. "We don't want to Mortgage the future to make the playoffs right now." Translation: If we can sell the "building for the future line", we can keep our paychecks. "When at work, walk around with a disgusted look on your face like George Costanza did. Ted and everyone else will think we're working hard. I'm telling ya, it'll work." Umm gmgm Two points; 1) the owner/your BOSS Ted wants to make the playoffs! 2) I know you may not be familiar with this concept, (seeing how only ONE of YOUR teams has made it to the playoffs in 10 years, Cup team was DP's) NHL teams play all season long to make it to the playoffs for a chance at a championship and added revenue.
Now we hear talks of Federov? Ok, let's see. Then again, we have a GM who passed on a #1 goaltender who, like BB, put his team on his back and has Phoenix in the playoff hunt as well. With Kolzig, Bryzgalov, and BB the division would be the Caps. Oh well, I'm sure gmgm has a plan together. I'm sure he has some kind of last minute trade deadline wizardry in the works. Maybe he has his eye on the Talent right now. Maybe he'll pull another rabbit out of his hat like Ivan Ciernik, Miika Elomo, Terry Yake, Ivan Majesky, Boyd Kane, Petr Sykora, Rico Fata, or other stellar pick ups like John Gruden ( a great pick up), Bates Battaglia, Joey Tenute, Joe Murphy, Chris Hajt, Dean Melanson, Sergei Berezin, Tom Chorske, Josh Green, Jamie Huscroft, A. Salomonsson, Trevor Linden, Darcy Verot, Andrew Cassels, Chris Ferraro, Craig Johnson, Jason Marshall, Doug Doull (that one makes you drool). Who's going to be the next Joel Kwiatkowski, Benoit Hogue, Jim McKenzie, Colin Forbes, Garrett Stroshein, J-F Fortin, Jakub Cutta, Jakub Klepis, Mike Farrell, Brad Norton, Alex Henry, Jonas Johansson, Joe Motzko, Roman Tvrdon, or Chris Corrinet. Maybe he's in the market for another top notch, blue chip, steady blue liner like Dwayne Zinger, Jason Doig, Jean-Luc Grand-Pierre, Mathieu Biron, Nolan Yonkman, or Dmitri Mironov. I guess only time will tell.

I know it's been said before to let go of Bryzgalov and you're right. He's no Rastislav Stana, Corey Hirsch, Matt Yeats, S. Charpentier, or Maxime Ouellet.

Posted by: someone else who knows | February 26, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

not that kolzig hasn't been great the last 7games...but he is old and expensive, and a UFA...wouldn't mind seeing one of our Goalie Prospects (varlamov or machesney) packaged with a 2nd and Kolzig to land an Emery or even a Lehtonin...Emery makes the most sense...but I don't see GMGM doing anything but patting himself on the back.

wait for the spin..."If not for 10 OTLOSSES we would have won the Stanley Cup...we'll get'em next year for sure!"

Posted by: mike b | February 26, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Sweet lord people really want Emery in this locker room? Are these the same people who have been complaining about Semin's perceived bad attitude?

Read a report or two about him and come back and talk.

Posted by: Yosh | February 26, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Emery should be in a straight jacket, not in the Caps locker room.

That being said, Propsal was traded for what essentially is Philadelphia's version of a Steve Eminger and a conditional pick, my guess a 3rd or 4th rounder depending on whether Prospal resigns or hits certain performance bonuses or something. I would have done that trade for a guy who could have centered the second line. That is the kind of trade you can pull off without it being "too expensive"

Maybe this Picard guy is better than I am giving him credit for, but I think it has more to do with the old Mantra of "do not trade within the division"

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

i really get the feeling that gmgm is just like going to all the wrong meetings or doesnt know they are even happening

Posted by: Anonymous | February 26, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

and Yes, that does sound like too much money for Boyle, to me anyway. Its going to be interesting to see what happens with Green. Hopefully the Caps lock him up in before free agency, and hopefully Green is not expecting to become the leagues highest paid D-man.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

"TSN has learned that the deal will pay Boyle $6.66 million per year."

That would be even more creepy if he signed with New Jersey.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

@ Mike B

Not to be antagonistic, but why on earth would we trade a highly touted goalie prospect for the clubhouse cancer that is Ray Emery?

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 1:32 AM | Report abuse

@ Whiter Mage
Hey, I'm not suggesting I think Ray Emery is a shining example of how to be a team player. All I'm saying is that he's a young netminder who looks like he may benefit from a change of scenery is all, and Ottawa looks like a team that may want an upgrade in the goaltending department.

@someone else who knows
Nice list. I just threw up a little bit in my mouth recalling the exploits of one A. Salomonsson.

Posted by: Dinger | February 26, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

@Sombrero Guy:

Yeah, to be honest I can't see for the life of me why TB let their third best scorer go for peanuts. I mean I know the answer is Boyle but I still don't get it.

Any other teams on the outside looking in who need some cap space to sign their stars? Someone do more research than me and find some teams, because If we could unload Emmy, Petty & a 3rd rounder next year for a Prospal type player, GMGM would be nuts to pass it up.

I'm one of the believers that we should stay put with respect to our actual talent, but if we can do what Philly just did, is there any reason not to? It's robbery.

Posted by: Raber | February 26, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

And before anyone jumps on me for suggesting Kolzig would be an upgrade in net for Ottawa, I should clarify "upgrade" to "added depth."

Posted by: Dinger | February 26, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

@someone else who knows: That's the first time I've laughed at one of your negative posts. That list is quite impressive!

We picked up Jurcina & Clymer at the deadline didn't we? You can add them to that awesome list.

Posted by: Raber | February 26, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

given the number of shots Ovechkin gets on goal and how talented and young Backstrum is, a missing piece there could be the missing link for Oveckin to put up W. Gretzky-esque numbers. Ovechkin's amazing ability to get a half a dozen shots a game on the goal is rare, combined with his physical presence,he maybe the best? or like mario lemieux, but with better health. i have not watched alot of Gretzty or Lemieux, especially none of the older greats. but, i believe A.O. is one more player away/ the first person i would wanna see play with him is John LeClare or somebody like that, some one who is very good at putting away the garbarge and screening the net. i do not think that player will come out of the caps system, unless a few years away anyway.
Toronto's Darcy Tucker come to my mind for short term, but hes not exactly what i was talkn about.

Posted by: timbers | February 26, 2008 4:23 AM | Report abuse

GMGM is not probally not do anything. hopefully

Posted by: timbers | February 26, 2008 4:27 AM | Report abuse

Prospal would have been a nice pick-up. Richards could be an interesting addition, if the Caps trade away Nylander (too many talented centers with Backstorm).

I still think in this market the Caps could sell off Eminger, Pettinger, Bradley, and/or Gordon for picks or rental players for a long-term tryout (the spring). If you get a rental player and he plays well, resign him.

The biggest priority is to resign Green and Morrison before the price gets too high.

Anyone notice how Semin's goal production is up with Kozlov on his line and OV is down? Coincidence or does Kozlov help create quality scoring chances?

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Mornin' Caps fans!

FYI - the time for the 3/9 game has changed - check out for more info.

Also, BB made an interesting comment about Clark last night. He said he is finally skating w/o pain and that he is hopeful he will be back for the last dozen or so games (that is me paraphrasing). He also said Clark came back last time with a little pain, but wanted to play anyway, and ending up hurting himself. Now for the interesting part - he said that GMGM told Clark before then that he should not play with any pain, but that Clark said he would be fine. Sooo ... for those of you who speculated that GMGM "made" him (and Semin and ... ?!?) play while injured, sounds like that is not actually the case.

Posted by: Boo! | February 26, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

oops ... ENDED up hurting himself.

Posted by: Boo! | February 26, 2008 7:40 AM | Report abuse

An interesting article that the Sens are looking for some size and grit up front and on the blueline for a playoff run. Maybe GMGM could dangle a player or two their way for a prospect or picks. The Sens are dangling Kelly (Total NHL 231 36 58 94 +50) and Vermette (Total NHL 278 61 62 123 +26 ). Both are centers on a team with too many quality centers to get enough playing time. The Caps don't have that luxury, so a trade for one of those for Eminger, Bradley, and Pettinger and a pick could be a nice exchange -- stay tuned.

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

i would throw up in my mouth if we traded olie for emery...

CAPS CONTEST at dc one 25 bucks to

Posted by: DC ONE TIMER | February 26, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

P.S. BB also said that they are still in it, and that they don't talk about getting into the playoffs, they talk about winning the cup.

Posted by: Boo! | February 26, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

You can't unload pettinger and eminger for prospal because he is an ufa next yr and would not sign back here. so that is why he didnt do it

Posted by: lance | February 26, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Come on guys, open your mouths when you throw up. Most 3 year olds can do it & I am sure that with a little practice you can also.

Posted by: closed mouth | February 26, 2008 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Boo! Did you hear that last night at the hockey n heels thing?
Also we don't need Emery and his bad attitude here. That would be disasterous to our locker room.

Posted by: K | February 26, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

It's nice to get Prospal out of the southeast-he's a caps killer. :-)

Posted by: dave | February 26, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Prospal could have given us two balanced scoring lines that would have helped get us into the playoffs. We're not retaining Emminger after the season, so it wouldn't matter if we didn't resign Propsal. Oh well.

Vermette intrigues me. I don't know if we can provide the grit that Ottawa is looking for but that would be an interesting addition to our team.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Emery is poison in the locker room

Posted by: Steve R | February 26, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse


Bingo on Kozlov. He may not put up the crazy numbers or get the respect he deserves but he's the stongest guy on the puck and boards I've seen in a while.

If people watched the game inside of the game Kozlov is one of the two(ish) players that will always win the battle for the puck and creates space by using his body and taking 2 dmen with him.

Posted by: MetalCap | February 26, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

IN the article about St Louis resigning Jackman, they mentioned that Bryce Salvador is going to be a UFA. He has a solid +/- won't score a ton, but does block shots. Might not be a bad rental if we can get him for cheap.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 8:52 AM | Report abuse

@ Sombero Guy

In reading the article, (, it seems that Kelly is more likely to be moved because he is a UFA. A package with Eminger/Erksine, Pettinger/Bradley, and Steckel/Gordon and a 2nd rounder (the Caps have 3) for Kelly might help both clubs??? The Sens are dropping pretty bad as of late and may just want to shake up their lockerroom for a consistent energy/grinder guy or two for a guy they may not resign again. They have resigned Kelly to one-year deals the past two years.

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

@someone else who knows

What would you consider to be a "low ball" offer to a .800-something save %, 37 year old goalie on a team that desperately needs to upgrade between the pipes?

Posted by: Sapper | February 26, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

given a choice, i'd much rather have Vermette, which I am sure is why the Sens would rather trade Kelly. Vermette is listed as a LW but takes a lot of faceoffs so I think he does split duty.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

@ Dinger,

Boyle for 40/6 seems high, but as his injury made clear this year, he is a vital, vital part of that team's success. Yeah, St. Louis and Vinny are big too, but even with the Hart level year Vinny is having, they can't win without Boyle. Hence, the extra money.


Prospal is clubhouse poison. The trade probably consisted of the team driving him to the Georgia border and giving him bus fare to get to the airport in Atlanta. We don't want him at any price.

Posted by: old time hockey | February 26, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Both Vermette and Kelly are double-listed as wing/center. I think either could possibly upgrade the Caps 2nd line, letting Kozlov get back to the first line with a new center pivoting Semin and Fehr/Flash. OV is better with Kozlov on the first line. With Kelly as an UFA and Vermette as a RFA, if one works out, sign him. If not, let him go.

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

The Caps biggest need is a THIRD line---not 2 fourth lines.

Posted by: 3rd line | February 26, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I doubt they move Peca.

Columbus Dispatch:
A source in Tampa said the Blue Jackets have given the Lightning multiple trade offers to select from and are awaiting their response early this morning. The Lightning is said to be intrigued by Brule, Fritsche and Tollefsen, all young, hard-nosed players who would give them salary-cap flexibility.

If the Blue Jackets land Richards, they are expected to move either Sergei Fedorov or Michael Peca to clear a glut at center.

Ottawa, Carolina and Washington are said to be interested in Fedorov, while Ottawa and Minnesota are said to have interest in Peca.

Posted by: alex | February 26, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

CBJ blog:

Also, there was word emanating from Ottawa about a Fedorov deal. Senators GM Bryan Murray went after Fedorov (in free agency) once before, and he may be trained on Fedorov once again. Supposedly, the bait is defenseman Brian Lee, the ninth overall pick in 2005. Lee, 6-3 and 205 pounds, is a right-shot puck mover, presently playing with the Senators' AHL affiliate in Binghamton. Sounds like a match to me.

Posted by: alex | February 26, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

When did everyone get so high on trading Bradley?

Posted by: some guy | February 26, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Kelly is more of a 3rd line center. Wonder how much a team would have to give up to pick up Robert Lang? He's more of a 2nd line center IMO. I really liked him when he was here before. Then we'd have Laing and Lang :)

Posted by: cs | February 26, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Either Federov or Peca would be a boost from Kozlov at center. He is not bad there, but he is better to the right of Backstrom and OV, and they are better. Both of those centers are excellent two-way pivots who can set up Semin and Fehr/Flash. A competent 2nd line would free up the first line.

BTW, the Caps have a very good 3rd line for energy/cycling/shut-down line. I wish they could chip in a few more goals, but they are not a liability on the ice and tend to wear down other teams dee pairings and pick up a few penalties. Now if the PP could bury a few more pucks . . .

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Why would someone trade a puck moving 9th overall pick for an overpaid, underperforming Fedorov? Brooks Laich and Fedorov have almost identical production this year, though Fedorov has played in 13 fewer games.

I would not be opposed to Fedorov if the cost was something like a 4th rounder. Thats about it for me though.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

@ cs

No Robert Lang, that guy is super slow. I thought he was skating in wet concrete compared to the rest of the Caps. He has a great shot, but would not be a compliment in the Caps lockerroom (moody & whiny last time around). He is way too in love with his image as a cupcontender.

@ some guy

Bradley is a career -22, even with a +22 year with the Sharks in 2001-2. He has never scored more than 9 goals in a season. He will be a UFA. So what does he bring that other Caps grinders don't? The Caps have plenty of energy guys, but not enough scorers. A good gm trades away what he has in excess for what he needs. A playoff bound team may want an energy guy who plays a tough, physical game for their energy/grind line.

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Thank you, this may surprise you but I think Clymer could have served a purpose on the team with his leadership and he could be a Defenseman that would "TOUCH SOMEBODY". Jurcina, we'll see, he has size but doesn't used it enough. He maybe added to the list later. Hopefully we can retire the list in the off season.

Of course there is a time when you need to re-work the numbers a bit. However, if Olie had a Defense that would put someone on their BACKS and cleared the front, his numbers would probably be better. The team has a $4.5 mill scoring defenseman with one goal, and is a statue in front. You can also put lazy back checking by some forwards into the mix. Many of the Games/Goals that Olie gets blamed for are actually the result of a break down by someone else. With that said, yes he has let some softies in, but not as many as some bury him for.

Posted by: someone else who knows | February 26, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Good point Jim, didn't think of that. On a side note what happened to that kid who comes on here impersonating Schultz, he was always good for a laugh

Posted by: some guy | February 26, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Bah, i meant Flash and Fedorov have very similar production.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

"However, if Olie had a Defense that would put someone on their BACKS and cleared the front, his numbers would probably be better."

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexactly. Lack of backchecking and clearing rebounds and the front of the net have easily contributed to at Olie's lackluster stats this season.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Bah, i meant Flash and Fedorov have very similar production.

Don't even mention those two together. I'd take one-legged Fedorov for Flash any day.

Hitchcock said that the team went downhill since Fed was injured. He said Fed does so many things that for a layman it gets unnoticed.

Posted by: alex | February 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Sure. Only "crappy" defensemen explain Kolzig's abysmal play this year.... Yeah, right! I hope today is going to be the last day of him as a Cap.

Posted by: Finn | February 26, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

@ Sombrero Guy

Feds may have numbers like Flash, but at least he is a defensively responsible pivot (+259 lifetime). His +/- is pretty darn good for Columbus (no one besides Peca has a + on the offensive side). His production did drop the last two years in Columbus, but look at their system and caliber of players (outside of Nash and Zherdev, no one scores). Feds may want to be on a team with a few Ruskies up front (Semin, Kozlov, & OV). Feds has a real good lockerroom rep. He is a fairly cheap rental (pro-rated c. 1 mil), and an UFA (see ya, if you don't perform/want too much money). The question is what is Columbus looking for?

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

12:30. That actually works really well for me since I also have a ticket to see Van Hallen up in Baltimore on the 9th.

Hopefully this means our last couple of games against Tampa will be a bit easier, but I don't want to jinx anything. They still have the mighty midget.

Posted by: EricS | February 26, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Sombrero Guy -- Kolzig would have better stats if he had Klee and Witt out there cleaning out the garbage and keeping forwards looking around for the smackdown. Kolzig has slowed down, so the rebounds hurt worse than they used to. It's a bad combination, but if he went to Detroit, he wouldn't look much worse than Osgood, who never looked good without Lidstrom and company in front of him.

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse


Good, because I think one leg is all he has left.


Robert Lang was not a bad influence. He actually was a pretty stand-up guy from what I heard. And, while he isn't the fastest skater I've ever seen, his big issue with appearing slow was that he was a coater. He would give a couple strides and then glide in looking for a pass or loose puck. That's his style. Maybe that's why he is thought of as lazy. I think its actually a Czech thing.

Posted by: old time hockey | February 26, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

@Alex - I have not watched Fedorov much over the past couple of years. Maybe he does great things away from the puck etc, but he not going to set the world on fire anywhere he goes. I still say I would not mind having him, but given his price tag and his lack of production I wouldn't trade much for him.

@Finn - I don't think anybody used the word "only". Kolzig is clearly not at the same level as when he won the Vezina, but when teams routinely get point blank tip ins, and third and fourth shots on net, they're going to score whether we have Kolzig or Broduer in net.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse


I wouldn't hold your breath on Olie going anywhere.

Posted by: Steve R | February 26, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

@ Jim
Yea great 3rd line. They score a goal about every 40 games.

Posted by: 3rd line | February 26, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Bryce Salvador went to the Devils

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

@ jim
Also, that is what the 4th line is for. Energy & stirring things up.

Posted by: 3rd line | February 26, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The Blue Jackets are 3-6-3 since Fedorov suffered the concussion on Jan. 17 in Phoenix. When he returns Sunday, it'll be one month since he last played in a game.

"I thought it was maybe a couple of weeks (when it happened)," Fedorov said. "Not four weeks."

Blue Jackets coach Ken Hitchcock said it has been a huge blow to the club.

"Look at our record since he's been out," Hitchcock said. "And look at how we finished last season, when he wasn't himself because of the elbow injury.

"He's a steady hand. He does a lot of things that turn out to be big things, because they're the difference between winning and losing."

Posted by: alex | February 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

This is what Caps need RIGHT NOW!

"He's a steady hand. He does a lot of things that turn out to be big things, because they're the difference between winning and losing."

Posted by: alex | February 26, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

@ 3rd line

What do you want a 3rd line to do? This isn't Ottawa or Detroit that pays big money to have three scoring lines. The Caps can't afford that many high salaries and it takes a long time to develop three effective scoring lines. The Caps don't even have two effective scoring lines now. With Clark and Nylander back, two lines look good. If some of the kids develop (Flash, Fehr, Laich, Steckel) and the Caps add a scoring center this summer, maybe they can have three lines scoring. But for the trade deadline, they should see about a center or RW for a playoff push -- if they don't have to sell the farm (too many picks, prospects, contributing players) to buy someone.

Posted by: JIM | February 26, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Wow, Bryce Salvador was given away too.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | February 26, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

TSN reporting that Hossa told by Thrashers to skip practice and wait in the hotel room...

Posted by: Schultz for Calder | February 26, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

"What do you want a 3rd line to do? This isn't Ottawa or Detroit that pays big money to have three scoring lines."

Yes, that is my point. I just stated that is what they need most. Adding a player to the 2nd line probably will not get them into the playoffs this year anyway.

Back to Detroit & Ottawa, this is why they are where they are.----3 good lines, not 1 & 2/3.
Another point that was mentioned earlier by someone, is that the backchecking on this team is at times nonexistant. People shouldn't blame it all on the D or the goalies.

Posted by: 3rd line | February 26, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Steve R,

A man can dream... *sighs*

Posted by: Finn | February 26, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse is reporting that caps picked up Cristobal Huet from Montreal for a 2nd rd pick!!!

Posted by: MetalCap | February 26, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

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