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Posted at 12:14 AM ET, 12/19/2010

Caps can't complete comeback against Bruins, drop eighth straight

By Katie Carrera

Several players and Coach Bruce Boudreau talked about how on the bench there was a feeling that continued to propel the Capitals forward. A feeling that previously might have made a comeback almost a guarantee, but during this slump there are few things Washington can expect to happen as they once did.

The Capitals couldn't erase a three-goal deficit they had spotted the Bruins in the first period and lost, 3-2, their eighth straight defeat. The loss that knocked them out of first place in the Southeast Division standings for the first time since April 2008 (see Atlanta's 7-1 win over the Devils and Tampa Bay's 3-1 win over Buffalo).

"I really believed that we were going to tie it tonight," Boudreau said. "You could feel it. They were going, they were getting a break, but you know [Boston goaltender Tim] Thomas has beat an awful lot of teams with some great stuff and he did it with us."

Said Eric Fehr, whom Boudreau praised for his play in the third period: "I think three weeks ago, a three-goal lead, we'd come back and win the game 5-3, but now we're having trouble scoring. We almost had it. We had some momentum, we've just got to find a way to score goals in the last couple minutes of the game again."

--For all the hustling the Capitals did in the second and third period, though, it wasn't enough to rid them of an ugly first 20 minutes. Spotting the Bruins a 3-0 lead is no way to try to end a losing streak, particularly with Thomas in net. Thomas finished the season series against the Caps having stopped all but seven of 141 shots.

"They're too good of a team to give them a 3-0 lead," Matt Bradley said. "We played great for 40 minutes, but it's a 60-minute game and it just wasn't good enough."

Karl Alzner, who tallied his second goal of the season to make it 3-2, said the first period might have been a product of the Capitals being over-eager.

"The first period we were just so amped up," Alzner said. "We were over backchecking, overplaying a lot of things, allowing them to get pucks to the point or the high slot and that's how they get three goals."

--For those worried that Washington would abandon its high-pressure offensive game, well, that's what they used to get 36 shots on Thomas in the final two periods.

"They started getting their D-men coming in the rush," Bruins defenseman Adam McQuaid said of the Capitals' comeback attempt. "They were on the four-man attack a lot and they were just getting pucks deep. They were coming hard and they were pressuring all over the ice."

--The message discussed during the first intermission, one that prompted the Capitals to play like a different team, was to stop saying they want to improve and actually do it. Much like the Anaheim game, the frustration of a loss remains and the players are tired of hearing how hard they tried.

"It's getting really frustrating and a little repetitive," Alzner said. "We've just got to know that we can't be sleeping at the beginning of the game. Let's stop talking, let's go do it."

--After brief injury scares against the Bruins, I was told there won't be any lasting effects to Mike Green, Michal Neuvirth or Marcus Johansson after they all required medical attention in the second period. They all came back and finished the game.

--I'm told Mathieu Perreault, who was a late scratch because he's come down with the illness that has gone around the Capitals' room, might be available to play against Ottawa tomorrow.

By Katie Carrera  | December 19, 2010; 12:14 AM ET
Categories:  Boston Bruins, Bruce Boudreau, Eric Fehr, Karl Alzner  
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This is getting ridiculous. At this point, doing nothing will be more infuriating than doing anything. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 19, 2010 12:24 AM | Report abuse

this just isnt fun anymore.yea they played good in the 2nd and 3rd but that dont win hockey games.Im sick of hearing how close there are to breakn outta this thing and still not doin it.Its getting a lil old now.Something needs to change,two days of practice and they still came out flat footed.one of the worste periods ive seen of the caps.aparently they arent getting BB message or anyone else's for that matter,maybe someone a lil tougher can get under there skin to turn this around."skate em till they puke" maybe BB should start listening to his peers cause whatever hes doin isnt working.If they dont win tomorrow then someone better be out the door and new faces coming in.Get your crap together caps!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | December 19, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

@Pkme, actually I've been coming on here less lately because it's just become pitiful watching the Caps beat themselves and play at a bottom feeding level.

The only people who fail to realize the deep rooted problems of the Caps seem to be the Caps organization themselves... more and more fans are starting to open there eyes and see what I've been saying about them since the beginning.

But the more I think about it the more it's starting to show that BB isn't THE biggest problem.

It's the players themselves, and it all starts with OVI and his fallen off the cliff performance this season. Stuck on 12g he's on pace for what, 30 goals max this season? And how has he gotten better to compensate for the huge drop in performance?

Forget the coach, he can only do so much if the players themselves just plain suck so much.

Posted by: BigGameSid | December 19, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Id rather be an offensive juggernaut and win games then try to revamp to a defensive team and not win any games.Whatever your doin BB,ITS NOT WORKING!!! DOo what you do best and play offensively and win some games.If the defense cant play defense than they shouldnt be in the NHL.Get ur mind right BB

Posted by: gratefuldid | December 19, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Still think the problems begin in net for this team. If Thomas was our G, does anyone think Caps are down 3-0 after the first period? How many goals do you think the Caps' Gs would have given up if they'd faced 26 shots in the 3rd period?

Granted, the D is nothing special & Caps Gs are often hung out to dry on odd-man rushes. But a stand-on-his-ear G could keep them in the game until they get their act together. Instead, the goals against come in bunches as the Caps' confidence fails.

Caps MUST acquire a veteran, top-notch G, a guy like Thomas, before the playoffs. There are other needs, but this is #1, imho.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 19, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Flu shots for everyone next year. This bug has killed us.

Posted by: Dirtbag359 | December 19, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

@Dirtbag359

Except that flu shots don't work against intestinal flu which is the current bug going around the Caps dressing room.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 19, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

"Caps MUST acquire a veteran, top-notch G, a guy like Thomas, before the playoffs. There are other needs, but this is #1, imho."

After the first period tonight I feel almost certain the team will look to acquire a vet goaltender. We are all screaming for BB's head, and with good reason, but I can honestly see GMGM pulling a move for a Vet goaltender before firing BB (or himself). Not that the entire team sleep walking through the first period had anything to do with the loss tonight. BB must be forcing them to listen to books on tape in the locker room or something.

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Ugh, the net is the least of this teams' problem right now. I mean come on, you don't really think the problem is with the Goaltender himself and not the fact that the BB "system" refuses to play Defense in front of him?

Tim Thomas easily gives up 3 goals just like Neuvy did. The recurring theme you'll see over and over again in great goaltenders is that they usually have at least decent defense in front of them.

The problem with this team is not the netminder. It's their philosophy. They refuse to play fundamentally sound hockey.

That starts at the top. It starts with a head man who thinks he's smarter than everyone. He's the smartest head coach ever and if he ever runs into a problem, it's not because his "system" doesn't work at the NHL level, it's because his players are too stupid to play his brilliant system, and the fans are too stupid to see its brilliance, and basically everyone other than BB is stupid.

Yet, much like the greek tragic hero, BB's hubris will be his downfall. A good coach would have started making adjustments 4 games ago. However, BB is far too "Brilliant" to make those adjustments.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 19, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

A loss by any other name is still a loss. Or more succinctly, you can try hard and succeed or you can try hard and fail. Failure seems to be the only options the Caps have right now. Oh well. If the losing streak goes to twenty games, will Bruce still be the coach? By that time, the playoff hopes will be gone. Doesn't matter anyway. Does anybody really think this team will go beyond the first round with Bruce at the helm?

Posted by: Almazar80 | December 19, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

@VTDuffman: I do not think the net is this teams biggest problem. I am only stating that I think GMGM and BB will believe that is. Especially after tonight. So I believe the next move by team management will be to acquire a vet netminder before Boudreau's job is on the line. I do not agree with this logic but I am not the owner of the team so my opinion is moot.

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 1:25 AM | Report abuse

"I am only stating that I think GMGM and BB will believe that is. Especially after tonight. So I believe the next move by team management will be to acquire a vet netminder before Boudreau's job is on the line."

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I hear ya.

FWIW, I agree. The last great mark that BB and GMGM will leave on this team is boning us financially by paying a "Veteran" (read: over the hill, likely with little playoff experience) netminder too much money and screwing our cap.

It will be fitting in it's own, sick, way.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 19, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

"It will be fitting in it's own, sick, way."

Hah, I completely agree. By the way, when did you graduate? Safe to assume VT stands for Virginia Tech? 06 here.

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 1:36 AM | Report abuse

George "the defense is complete" MacPhee.

WORST GM in hockey !

Firs this guy and watch everything get better overnight...

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 1:39 AM | Report abuse

FIRE the GM today !!

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

"George "the defense is complete" MacPhee."

Cheef, he will say the same thing when we trade for a vet goaltender this week!!!!

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Class of '03, eorr.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 19, 2010 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Wonder if the blond girl Caps fan who got thrown out by security with about 5 min to go is ever on here. I thought that was BS. Yeah, you were acting kinda obnoxious as an away fan waving that "Let's go Caps" towel in everyone's face, but the Bruins fans who kept taking it away from you should've been thrown out, not you.

Was good to see the Caps make a real effort in the 3rd. 26 shots on net in 1 period! Thomas was unbelievably allowing only 1 of them.

This streak is ridiculous, but it can't last. The good news is that it's happening now & not at the end of the season. Hopefully we'll get the kinks out & remember how to play again soon.

Posted by: ranndino | December 19, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

again what the hell is BB thinking with playing beagle or a. gordon over DJK....at least i notice when DJK is on the ice, nothing could be said by either of the two hershey players. The past 2 games (at least the lineups) have been terribly coached by BB

Posted by: _stevo | December 19, 2010 2:16 AM | Report abuse

@VtDuffman: How are you feeling about the Orange Bowl?

StevO: I wish they would play DJK more as well, I think he is on IR now though. He would definitely allow the rest of the team to play with more balls.

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Standings changed big time tonight, no more bragging about being best, more like seventh place.

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 2:31 AM | Report abuse

"Standings changed big time tonight, no more bragging about being best, more like seventh place."

Haha, Cheef, be easy friend. The Fylers made it to the CuP finals after being an 8T seed!!!

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, with Captain Richards and a big time D-Man in Pronger, not to mention a coach that knows how to provide the team with a plan.

What Philly did to Boston was epic, especially game 7, glad I watched it from start to finish, that was history.

The mere thought about the Caps having that kind of will to win is insane.

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

I was being sarcastic, but yes essentially!

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Leaders like Richards, Crosby, Doan, Morrow are few and far between. I almost feel sorry for OV, he never wanted it.

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 2:59 AM | Report abuse

dang, some of you posters sound pathetic... of course they're going through a slump but they'll get through it and I believe that they will overcome all of this. I believe that this team will get it together. You all should (or at least most of you) should have faith in this team instead of complaining about every little thing thats wrong with this team because we have seen worse ie Redskins, Wizards DC United...

Posted by: jleftwing97 | December 19, 2010 2:59 AM | Report abuse

Ok, dummy.........

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 3:05 AM | Report abuse

its the "fans" that make me stop listening to the radio and increasingly make me regret reading internet comments.

Turncoats the whole lot of ya. Shame on ya!

This too shall pass. We'll be fine and a better team because of the adversity. They'll drink some chicken broth, and will be ready to smoke the Sens.

I'm looking forward to tomorrow night.

Posted by: Groovemaniac | December 19, 2010 4:22 AM | Report abuse

Ok, dummy.........

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 3:05 AM


I don't even know why I'm even responding to this but.... you're a d-bag eorr53

Posted by: jleftwing97 | December 19, 2010 6:33 AM | Report abuse

Ok, dummy.........

Posted by: eorr53 | December 19, 2010 3:05 AM


I don't even know why I'm even responding to this but.... you're a d-bag eorr53

Posted by: jleftwing97 | December 19, 2010 6:33 AM |

nevermind...I retract my last statement.....

Posted by: jleftwing97 | December 19, 2010 6:45 AM | Report abuse

OK...since BB does not know why they are losing...let's get someone who knows how to win. Dale Hunter is the answer!

Posted by: CB28031 | December 19, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

OK...since BB does not know why they are losing...let's get someone who knows how to win. Dale Hunter is the answer!

Posted by: CB28031 | December 19, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

In some ways I'm starting to feel a little sorry for BB. Comments like "...they're was a feeling we were going to tie it..." or whatever he said, make him appear lost and stumped. Unfortunately he and GMGM had the chance last summer to add a few pieces (especially veteran leadership) and didn't. This team is starving for a few more grown ups who have winning track records. GMGM is going to have to save himself first, so will BB be dumped if they lose tonight?

Posted by: kcbrichmond | December 19, 2010 7:41 AM | Report abuse

After having not played since Wednesday, to show up and get blown away in the first period shows that this team truly has no leadership!! They need a new coach and a new captain. Thanks for all you did BB, but now it is time for someone to take this team to the next level. There is more than enough talent for this team to win RIGHT NOW. They just need a coach that will get it out of them. Also, even though OV is their best player, that doesn't make him captain. He CAN"T rally this team, it has become painfully obvious. GMGM needs to get his head out of his butt and make the tough changes or this team will accomplish nothing. The Penguins had the nads to get rid of their coach a couple of years ago and look where they ended up...Stanley Cup Champs! So did Chicago...and they won!!! So did Philly last year...Stanley Cup Finals!! No hard feelings to BB, it is just he is at his limitations. Brian Murray was never able to win either don't forget.

Posted by: BPTUCKER71 | December 19, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Merry Christmas, Bruce. Now you can spend more time with the family. Fat, dumb and third place is no way to go through life, son.

Posted by: rdondero123 | December 19, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

In the NFL this year Detroit and Buffalo have been in just about every game they've played but what are their combined records still??

A lot of you said they looked great in the loss against the Avs one week ago and they would just kill the Rangers last Sunday... what happened???

If you look at the 8 losses individually, maybe it doesn't seem as bad but that's what a losing streak is. They're not gonna be all blowout losses.

To think that they will just snap outta it and put together a long winning streak now without someone getting traded and/or someone losing his job is simply delusional to say the least.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

I am the most disappointed to hear that BigBaby has yet to be fired. He uses practices to supposedly install a defensive system and he comes out with pond hockey. What a joke, dump this loser in 2010, not 2011. He has clearly no clue how to adjust, and the players have tuned him out. It's time for a change. GMGM fire this guy or you are gone with him soon.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Kids, but no one gets fired before Jan. 1. It would look too bad on TV and the CAPS are ALL about marketing. THe way to make the point though is to stay away for the next three home games. Caps will spin it and claim 'attendence is always lower around the holidays', but believe me if you hit Ted in his wallet, change will come quickly.

Posted by: festus75 | December 19, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

From a marketing perspective on an 8 game slide, getting a new coach will fill the seats. People will want to see what the new coach can do. I seriously doubt people will not show up because a losing coach got canned. I doubt people will spend holiday time coming to see a losing team with a loser coach as it stands now, besides season ticket holders and diehards. The team's system is embarrasing, so who wants to watch a losing streak grow, honestly. Unless one is delusional enough to think BigBaby will suddenly grow a brain as a Christmas miracle.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

"THe way to make the point though is to stay away for the next three home games."
Yeah, good luck with that.
BB doesn't survive this slump for sure. Would the caps promote the assistant coach in the meantime ?

Posted by: guer_j | December 19, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

From a marketing perspective on an 8 game slide, getting a new coach will fill the seats. People will want to see what the new coach can do. I seriously doubt people will not show up because a losing coach got canned. I doubt people will spend holiday time coming to see a losing team with a loser coach as it stands now, besides season ticket holders and diehards. The team's system is embarrasing, so who wants to watch a losing streak grow, honestly. Unless one is delusional enough to think BigBaby will suddenly grow a brain as a Christmas miracle.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Off topic but on another thread someone was saying how great all these teams with only Canadian players are and that The Caps need to move away from the Europeon anchor of OVI,Backs, and Semin. Emotional arguement without data to support their arguement. Here is as follow my response.

I keep hearing this stuff about Canadian players versus Europeon players. Folks go and check the line up of The Red Wings of the last 20 years. In fact check their lineup when they beat the Pens. I count eight Canadian players. Last time I checked Fedwrov was Russian. Arguably one of the best two way players to ever don a hockey uniform. Have you folks heard of Henrik Zetterberg. Last time I checked he is not Canandian. Anytime i hear this arguement I always say look at The Red Wings. The Red Wings currently have the most diverse line up in the last twenty years. The Caps have count them outside of goaltending that are from Europe. Is it three guys?

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

How about Lidstrom? I just remembered he is Swedish. Stop the hating on Europeon players. I am going to get the line up for folks for the 2007-2008 line up so folks maybe more educated.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Here is the breakdown of 07-08 Stanley Cup Redwings. Hope this clears up that crazy notion that a Europeon style team can not win the Cup. The best five players on The Red Wings were not Canadian. I am talking about stats from that year not over history of their careers. Although we can now say that Zetterberg and Datsuk are among the top five two way players in The NHL.

# Name
24 Chris Chelios
11 Dan Cleary
13 Pavel Datsyuk "A"
17 Dallas Drake

33 Kris Draper "A"
51 Valtteri Filppula
93 Johan Franzen
44 Mark Hartigan
39 Dominik Hasek
43 Darren Helm
96 Tomas Holmstrom
26 Jiri Hudler
55 Niklas Kronwall
22 Brett Lebda
5 Nicklas Lidstrom "C"
3 Andreas Lilja
18 Kirk Maltby
25 Darren McCarty
30 Chris Osgood
28 Brian Rafalski
37 Mikael Samuelsson
23 Brad Stuart
40 Henrik Zetterberg "A"


Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Like it or not, BB is not going anywhere before the Penguins game in Pittsburgh. The HBO cameras are already a major distraction/complication during the losing streak and firing Boudreau now is not going to make that any better and would become THE story for the next two weeks. Best case the Caps win tonight and squeeze out a win against the Penguins so that even another couple of losses before the Winter Classic don't look as bad.

Posted by: AlligatorArms | December 19, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

I don't suppose anybody here needs reminding but, as of this morning the Caps are effectively in 8th place in the Eastern Conference. I'm giving Boston the nod because they are only 2 pts. back with 3 games in hand. Positions 2 through 8 are only separated by 3 pts.

I thought the Caps played with a certain amount of intensity last night (yeah, I know about the first period).

I'm afraid a few more players are going to have to add a nasty dimension to their game (note to Steckel and Fehr). These are two big guys and they can inflict some wear and tear if they use their size advantage correctly. The big question is, can they? If they don't the rest of the league is going to continue to dump on the Caps and enjoy doing it as payback for the last couple of years.

Come on Caps, unleash the nastiness.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that it's just Steckel and Fehr. I was using them as examples. I think the Caps need to amp up the nastiness factor in general, otherwise .......

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

I'm afraid a few more players are going to have to add a nasty dimension to their game (note to Steckel and Fehr). These are two big guys and they can inflict some wear and tear if they use their size advantage correctly. The big question is, can they?
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NO, they can't. This is something I will never understand. Why do some of you think they can suddenly change their style at this level and start playing nasty like Bradley or Hendricks every night?

Either you can or you can't, that's it. Would you expect a player who's been slow all his life to suddenly skate like Paul Coffey???

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I guess I'm coming to the opinion that it's not the coaching, it's the players.

Now, you could say that is the fault of GMGM because, as I understand it, he is responsible for who the Caps get as players.

It is what it is - for now.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Why do some of you think they can suddenly change their style at this level and start playing nasty like Bradley or Hendricks every night?
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Did I say I thought they could do it?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

come on Caps, tonight is the night. LET'S DO THIS!!!! i'm still here, I still believe in you. let's get the W!

Posted by: capsfan387 | December 19, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

@ranndino

Good post, Ranndino. I miss seeing your posts here. I keep telling myself that the "Law of Averages" has to kick in at some points and the team is better than what they've shown this month. Yes, I am impatiently waiting for the turnaround and wondering what happened.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 19, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Caps win tonight. I guarantee it.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 19, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Caps win tonight. I guarantee it.

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Drinks on you if they don't?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I keep telling myself that the "Law of Averages" has to kick in at some points and the team is better than what they've shown this month.
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Randomness does not decide the outcomes of sporting events. If it did the bookies would not be doing so well.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

@FloridaCaps

I'll happily buy drinks even if they DO! You gotta drink what I give you though.

I wish I could buy these guys some goals at this point.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 19, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Obviously,the losing streak will end but what bothers me is I see no reason to expect a Cap team that performs anywhere near the regular season team of last year.
Watching the game last night, I kept thinking where are the goals going to come from? Even assuming Ovie breaks out of this slump, who else can score? Chimera and Fehr( ok, he played well last night) have not produced, Johansson is not really ready yet and the other forwards are purely checkers. We really need Semin back and Ovie and Backstrom have to step up. The Ovie of the past scores on that rush in the third period. Hage to say this, but we actualy miss Thomas Fleichsmann's scoring.

Problem- is there really enough talent to be a top tier team? Doubtful.

Posted by: pdanziger | December 19, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

The big criticism of the CAPS last year was that they were all offense and not enough defense. Then BB installed a new system this year designed to shutdown the opposing offense.

Last year the caps might win 6-4 games or 5-3 games, this year BB wanted to win 2-1 games, which incidentally was the score by which the Penguins won their cup.

The hockey professionals all say that you are not going to win a cup with a score of 7-5.

I don't know for sure, but I believe the caps stated this season under the old system and then switched over to the new one after a couple of months. Maybe it is learning the new system and implementing it that is hurting the caps.

I believe the given time the caps will break out and become the team they need to be to win a cup.

Even if it is not this year, the caps need to install a shut down defense in order to win in the playoffs. April 15 is too late to start.

In the first period against Boston I thought the caps were too tentative, especially on the first goal against. Stecks gave up the puck at the redline, maybe he was thinking control, where last year he would have been thinking gun and run.

I thought they did a good job defensively in periods 2 & 3 last night.

I counsel patience, this will turn around, and I don't give a s#!t if they don't win the southeast as long as they make the playoffs and go far.

Posted by: zuby09 | December 19, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

You gotta drink what I give you though.
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I'm not drinking Koolaid or goats blood.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

For those worried that Washington would abandon its high-pressure offensive game, well, that's what they used to get 36 shots on Thomas in the final two periods.
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LOL that's funny... I always thought you measured the quality of offense by the number of goals they scored, NOT by the number of shots.

what is it now, 11 goals in 8 games?? that's "high pressure" offense alright!!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

The Caps have plenty of 20+ scorers, so offensive talent is there. Just trading Flash is not a difference maker. Green, OV, Backis, and lately, Semin have all had trouble scoring more due to an easy to stop system than anything else. It's time for a change away from BigBaby's high-risk, low-reward system. On the top 2 lines, BB encourages a forward to float high looking for an outlet and the defense to do long, high-risk outlet passes. BB's system is predictable and therefore easy to defend. He also lets his superstars free-lance way too much.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

On the top 2 lines, BB encourages a forward to float high looking for an outlet and the defense to do long, high-risk outlet passes. BB's system is predictable and therefore easy to defend. He also lets his superstars free-lance way too much.
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How do you know this?

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I don't know for sure, but I believe the caps stated this season under the old system and then switched over to the new one after a couple of months. Maybe it is learning the new system and implementing it that is hurting the caps.
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This is the fundamental problem with this team. Whatever "new system" BB and/or GMGM wanted should have been put into place during the friggin' training camp, NOT after two months have passed in the season.

This isn't just about this particular losing streak, the whole problem was EXPOSED during the playoffs when they lost after having a 3 games to 1 lead in the series.

It's okay for some of the koolaid drinkers to think they just ran into a hot goalie, it's NOT okay for those in charge of this team to think that. Now after they lose 8 straight, they wanna change the system???

4 words - too little too late

for BB and GMGM that is.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Because I watch the games and OV and Semin float above the top of the circles when the Caps seem like they are gaining position. I have seen other forwards doing this too for the past few years, so it is systemic. If a coach cannot control his players from floating, he is a weak disciplinarian, so loser that way. If he takes a forward out of the backcheck for a quick break and other teams notice this, they cycle down low, pretty simple to counter actually. This system makes OV and Semin look like cruddy backcheckers, which is not necessarily the case.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Also look at BB's comments that MaJo played too much defense from the Swedish system and not enough offense. What nonsense! A young player should pay more attention to his own zone than offense. BigBaby is a joke, over-emphasizing offense at the cost of team defense. This joker has to go. The Caps have enough talent to be winning the SE division for goodness sake. I like how Atlanta is winning with a better system and less talent. Tampa does not concern me because their goalies are a joke and their defense is soft.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Because I watch the games ....
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So, you are stating your opinion as fact. Maybe I should realize that's a given in a forum like this.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I like how Atlanta is winning with a better system and less talent.
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Actually, I like what Atlanta has done with their talent this last offseason. The acquisition of those three Blackhawks has done wonders for them.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Anyone notice that ever since the report about the VA doctor last year who was busted for selling steroids and claims he had treated some Caps players, that the Caps overall performance level has gone in the toilet? Especially Ovi and Green?....Im just sayin....

Posted by: opticlguy | December 19, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"Anyone notice that ever since the report about the VA doctor last year who was busted for selling steroids and claims he had treated some Caps players, that the Caps overall performance level has gone in the toilet? Especially Ovi and Green?....Im just sayin...."

Don't be an idiot. The doctor, police, and Caps organization all confirmed that only three Caps went to that doctor and only for chiropractic services, Ovie and Green weren't in that list.

The Caps performance started decreasing after the Montreal series when the Habs "cracked the code". Now other teams know how to shut down the Caps effectively. Now the Caps need to change their gameplan. And if you didn't see a huge change in the way they played against Anaheim and Boston, you're blind. Win or lose, those two games showed drastically different types of offenses and defenses for the Caps than the previous 30+.

Posted by: sabredc | December 19, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

And if you didn't see a huge change in the way they played against Anaheim and Boston, you're blind. Win or lose, those two games showed drastically different types of offenses and defenses for the Caps than the previous 30+.
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Well Billy Jaffe must be blind too then because he said last night on the Fly that he didn't notice any change in their system.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I was just going over the highlights of last night's game on NHL.com and thought that on the first goal one of the Boston players impeded MG after he had passed the puck allowing the shooter more time and space. Maybe it was not a foul (obviously wasn't called) but it was a good play nonetheless. Showed high hockey IQ in my opinion. Their second goal was lucky, I'll give them the third one.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

GO SENATORS! Get BB (and hopefully GMGM) fired. Once we fall to 9th place, Ted will have to make the change. BB is an offensive guy attempting to play a defensive system. Let's get a defense 1st coach. Turnovers when the other team can't get it deep, breakouts & quick transition created by good defensive play. Odd-man rushes created with speed after sound defensive creates turnovers. Forecheck pressure. I missed last nights game to watch my kids at a dance recital. Watching 5 years old try to do a routine was just like watching the Caps play! Everybody looking at each other trying to figure out what to do, the crowd laughing at them and the big fat dance teacher (BB) thinking: "these f-ing kids are going to f-ing get me f-ing fired." Oh well, maybe one more loss will force Ted to make a change. Here is one fan hoping.

Posted by: chriscaps | December 19, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

BB will be 56 in 3 weeks. He's been an NHL headcoach for only 3+ years but he's NOT a young coach. He's been a coach at different levels for a very long time.

You gotta believe that there is a reason why he's been passed over for an NHL job for all these years and I believe we've been witnessing that since last year's playoffs.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

BB will be 56 in 3 weeks.
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Happy bleeping birthday BB.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

"So, you are stating your opinion as fact. Maybe I should realize that's a given in a forum like this."

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Technically, it's neither, it's an observation. But it's also pretty well known at this point and evident in the play of the team.

I mean, you watch this team, do you have different observations about "The System?" The book is out on BB and how to stop him, it's a NYT Bestseller written by Jaques Martin.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 19, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I mean, you watch this team, do you have different observations about "The System?" The book is out on BB and how to stop him, it's a NYT Bestseller written by Jaques Martin.
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Yes I do, I have come to the opinion that the players are not performing up to their full capabilities and that "The System" as you put it is a convenient scapegoat.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

If they fire BB (fingers crossed) there will be an interim coach. Likely one of the assistant coaches will fill in. If they fire him and immediately announce another coach it will look like they bushwhacked him.

When the Caps booted Hanlon BB stepped in as the interim coach.. The team rallied around the change and he won the job based on the results. Looking back I wish they would have continued to slide. Some VERY good coaches were available at the time. There are a few great coaches available now, hopefully we will see one behind the Washington bench SOON!!!

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I've predicted most of the recent loses based soley on the lineups. I'll have my prediction later today...

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I mean, you watch this team, do you have different observations about "The System?" The book is out on BB and how to stop him, it's a NYT Bestseller written by Jaques Martin.
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Yes I do, I have come to the opinion that the players are not performing up to their full capabilities and that "The System" as you put it is a convenient scapegoat.
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I also believe that the hockey IQ of the Caps players is not where it should be. Hockey IQ is something that cannot be coached.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

The biggest factors in the Caps inability to win have been the disappearance of Ovi's game and Green's loss of offense. I would throw in Backstrom too, but I think a lot of his reduced performance stems from the other two factors, especially Ovi. The Ovi situation is a total mystery to me, but I'm beginning to wonder whether we will ever again see the old Ovi. Green may be injured, but I think he is also trying to appease Canadian traditionalists who don't like offensive defensemen. So, instead of a world class offensive d-man, we now have a second-pairing quality defensive d-man.

Posted by: zmega | December 19, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"I also believe that the hockey IQ of the Caps players is not where it should be. Hockey IQ is something that cannot be coached."

It absolutely can be COACHED. It's called a trade, demotion to the AHL, benching or healthy scratch. To make it to the NHL level you need hockey IQ. Unless you're an emergency call up to replace a recently fired coach and your team catches fire...

If the coach cannot motivate a player or get them to play a system what good is he? Or is it simply the fault of TWENTY THREE players? This team is chock full of talent, it's not the players fault it's not being utilized properly.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"Also look at BB's comments that MaJo played too much defense from the Swedish system and not enough offense. What nonsense! A young player should pay more attention to his own zone than offense."

@JIMALLCAPS2

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Jimallcap2 - Article about Ducks/Caps game supports your point: "Young Ducks do the little things that matter" http://www.ocregister.com/sports/ducks-280480-game-road.html

Carlyle has his "kid line" working defense, saying scoring will come later. He and Getzlaf credited them with changing the momentum of the Caps game by playing defense well and helping slow down the "high octane" Caps.

Posted by: OccasionalCritic | December 19, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I think letting Belanger walk is having a big impact on this team. They are suddenly really thin up the middle for reliable players who can win faceoffs and chip in offensively. Put him with Chimera and Fehr or Hendricks and they'd force a lot of offensive zone faceoffs. They could even use him as a 2nd line centre instead. I thought he played well when paired with Semin last season. When the team was so offensively dominant maybe it wasn't as noticeable but they seemed to get a lot of good chances. Letting BMo go was probably a good idea just because his style of play didn't really fit with what Washington needed. But with how good a 2-way player he is and how much he dominated in faceoffs during the playoffs last season, I really don't understand the Belanger move. In the playoffs this season, Steckel and Gordon will be the only guys you can really put out there to win important faceoffs. Not that Boudreau really made use of his good faceoff guys against Montreal last season and did things like send Fleichmann out to take the draw after Montreal was dead tired and had iced the puck, and Washington needed a goal. Why not just call a timeout to let the other team rest?

Posted by: Stu_c | December 19, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

instead of wondering when this team's going to win the next game, lets wonder when they're going to play 60 mins. Esp on the road. I don't care if they put up 100 shots in the 3rd pd of a given game. A team on a streak like this has no business having a weak opening period to any hockey game. Speaks volumes about why they're in their current situation.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/

-The ReportersThe Reporters try to explain the poor play of the Caps and ask if the 24/7 series is too much exposure-

EXCELLENT reporting on the Caps woes! It's about 5 minutes long and they hit the nail on the head on a lot of things. Particularly BB losing the team, lack of a message in his filth filled rants and it being time for him to go. They also railed on GMGM for doing 'nothing' in the off season to improve the team after being bounced in the 1st round.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

This streak is ridiculous, but it can't last. The good news is that it's happening now & not at the end of the season. Hopefully we'll get the kinks out & remember how to play again soon.

Posted by: ranndino

yeah i see that happening on its own. With no external influences.

We're just going thru a bad streak.

All teams do it.

We had a bad streak last yr too. 5 bad days in April.

Just a streak.

Coulda happened at any time. Its randomness at its most random. Once we win a game or two, all is well again.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"A team on a streak like this has no business having a weak opening period to any hockey game. Speaks volumes about why they're in their current situation."

Bingo cstanton1! Bird Call Boy should have had them ready to chew Bruins ears off at the 1st puck drop if that's what it would take to win.

Bottom line... Bird Call Boy's lost the team, the players are not listening and he's got to go. Hopefully once he's gone the God aweful commercials will be yanked too. After w h oring himself out to anyone offering $1 he should be set for life.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Why do some of you think they can suddenly change their style at this level and start playing nasty like Bradley or Hendricks every night?
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it CAN be done. Not for all players, but for some. Its not common and usually you have to display that type of style and personality before you get drafted. But it can be done.

However, this is absolutely the last org on the face of the earth that it can be done within. They are the worst example of encouraging that type of play. They don't go actively looking for those stylistic traits anywhere save a few examples.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

@biggamesyd

Washington and Pittsburgh share something in common.

We fielded the worst hockey team in NHL history in 1974.

The Pirates have 18 consecutive losing seasons going. Worst ever. We had a "Save the Caps campaign".It worked. Where will the money come from to save the Pirates when Vegas tries to steal your baseball team ? There is no money in Pittsburgh. The Pirates are gone. Lost 20 -0 to the Brewers in April. Outscored in that series 37-1.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our boys on the hard wood lost by one point to LeBron and Wade last night. You're on this site because you're bored. You have no NBA franchise. You are losing the Bucs soon. I guess all you'll have to talk about all summer is Syd.

We're sports fans here. Not just Caps fans.
Come in here and mouth off when your boys haven't lost a game 20 -0.

Also, weren't you the fans running comics of Bradshaw as "Little Abner" when he started? Didn't Dave Parker have flashlight batteries repeatedly thrown at him while called the 'N' word AT HOME?

Syd, you're such a tough guy. Why don't you ever respond when I tell you about Pittsburgh's REAL SPORTING PAST. You hit and run.

Yea, City of Champions ! City of bad people and empty pockets.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 19, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I hate to admit this but I was actually hoping the Caps would lose last night. Once they were down 3-0, I thought to myself: they could come back, they might come back, I'd like to see them come back, but I don't want BB to get let off the hook, so I hope they lose.

I fear that when the Caps finally do win again - and it could happen soon and consistently - we might forget the underlying problem (which I believe to be BB). BB couldn't get it done last year in the playoffs with his system. He's now trying to implement a different system that is non-core to him and - apparently - beyond his skill set. I don't want any Caps victory to distract from this.

Posted by: PSD1 | December 19, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Bingo cstanton1! Bird Call Boy should have had them ready to chew Bruins ears off at the 1st puck drop if that's what it would take to win.

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the caveat to this is, this kind of play isn't unique to this current losing streak. They did it way too frequently the last 2 seasons as well. But that lack of a 60 min effort has been excused by the coach, GM, owner, media, and fans because the end result was a win in many cases.

The seed for this type of inconsistent work ethic was planted at least 2 yrs ago. Its come to fruition at a time when this team is struggling thru some injuries, the flu, playing in a better league, not executing as well offensively, etc. But all that could still be overcome if this team had a better work ethic and a nastier disposition on the ice.

So, I'm not surprised they didn't come out strong in the opening minutes. That's (lack of a full game effort) been their personality for a long time and it won't change without changing over the folks responsible for fostering this environment.

I call this a real blessing in disguise. Because if not for the losing streak, the Caps never acknowledge their deeper-rooted issues. Now they have to face it head-on.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I hate to admit this but I was actually hoping the Caps would lose last night. Once they were down 3-0, I thought to myself: they could come back, they might come back, I'd like to see them come back, but I don't want BB to get let off the hook, so I hope they lose.

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of course! You shouldn't have to hate to admit it. Think about it, how many times did we come back last yr after having a weak 1st or 2nd pds? It happened so many times that this team felt they were invincible and always capable of giving less than a full effort to win a game. All they had to do was 'turn it on' when they felt like it. I think that was a horrible lesson for them to learn. And they only paid lip svc to giving a full effort. Oh you'd read about it a few times in the press where the players would say "we can't keep doing this,blah blah blah". But you knew they didn't really take that to heart.

So, I have no problem admitting that I do not want them to somehow start another trend of coming back in games that they have slacked their way thru for 30 minutes. Because that's not the mark of a great team. That's the mark of simply a team with very good offensive talent.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

"This team is chock full of talent, it's not the players fault it's not being utilized properly." FL Dave

I'm just not sure this is true anymore. Maybe system changes explain part of it (not taking advantage of the players' strengths), but poor play is a big part. Lately they play one of two ways -
* low energy, lose 7-0, or
* high energy, lose 3-2 or 2-1.

The low energy games, or parts of games, are hard to explain, as CStanton notes. But how about when they play hard and still can't score? These games or periods when they put lots of shots on goal, but few if any go in - isn't that the definition of a hardworking, low skill team? And when that happens,they get discouraged and a low energy game follows.

For whatever reason, they lost their mojo.

Posted by: zmega | December 19, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Truly is a great holiday season.

Donovan is deservedly benched. Now the only step left besides finding a good QB is Shanahan admitting at the end of the season that he made a colossal mistake in trading for an inconsistent QB whose athleticism has long since deserted him. I want that public admission from MS.

And now the Caps' longstanding issues have risen from beneath the surface. Its a beautiful thing that bring a tear to my eye.

cha cha cha cha changes!

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"This'll surely infuriate some of you but it's looking more and more like Ovechkin, just like Kovalchuk, is an overrated one-dimensional player that you don't build your franchise around."

@tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 10:11 PM
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"Ovi situation is a total mystery to me, but I'm beginning to wonder whether we will ever again see the old Ovi."

@zmega | December 19, 2010 11:34 AM
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Postings received no reaction, yet Ovi's slump is frequently mentioned, with various thoughts - injured, sick, over-bulked, or stifled by BB's new strategy.

Saying #8 may not be "great" seems sacrilegious. We MUST keep the faith. It CAN'T be that he has already peaked!

Or... Are those repetitive missed shots from the blue line, stifled drives to the net and intercepted passes signs of something fundamentally wrong?

Are we watching the "Late Great 8" or the "Just-you-wait Great 8"?

And, if it is the "just-you-wait" choice, how will slump-meister turn into superstar? Will it just happen (unlucky streak will end)? Or does something have to change?

Posted by: OccasionalCritic | December 19, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"This'll surely infuriate some of you but it's looking more and more like Ovechkin, just like Kovalchuk, is an overrated one-dimensional player that you don't build your franchise around."

@tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 10:11 PM
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"Ovi situation is a total mystery to me, but I'm beginning to wonder whether we will ever again see the old Ovi."

@zmega | December 19, 2010 11:34 AM
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Postings received no reaction, yet Ovi's slump is frequently mentioned, with various thoughts - injured, sick, over-bulked, or stifled by BB's new strategy.

Saying #8 may not be "great" seems sacrilegious. We MUST keep the faith. It CAN'T be that he has already peaked!

Or... Are those repetitive missed shots from the blue line, stifled drives to the net and intercepted passes signs of something fundamentally wrong?

Are we watching the "Late Great 8" or the "Just-you-wait Great 8"?

And, if it is the "just-you-wait" choice, how will slump-meister turn into superstar? Will it just happen (unlucky streak will end)? Or does something have to change?

Posted by: OccasionalCritic | December 19, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

BigGameSid

Once the Caps dump their coach and replace him it will be a completely different story. What you've witnessed over the BB years is just the tip of the iceberg of what the Caps are capable of.

I respect the Pens organization for what they have acheived over the years. This years team with it's new toughness has been a blast to watch! I believe the Caps have a better core of talented young players. With a new coach (Keenan or Nolan type) properly utilizing our players and a few strategic trades (adding Enforcement/Grit/Heart) we could give the Pens a run for their money for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

cstanton,
I hadn't been on here much but I noticed your absence as well. glad you're back - you're calling it like it is.
and good timing for your return too.

Posted by: PSD1 | December 19, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

z - i agree that the abstract term "mojo" may have some meaning here. It can happen.

But I still think their effort is overrated even when they're allegedly playing hard. They just don't quite reach the levels they need to. A simple play in last night's game was Blake Wheeler coming in on the forecheck and blasting Tom Poti. That led to a nice extended offensive opp for the B's. I'd like to see our forwards do that at least 5 times a period. Where they just annhilate a defenseman on the forecheck where he's still picking up his faculties off the ice as we're now setting up our chances. The hits we do have are little bumps which are sometimes ineffective. We hit Boychuk lightly a few times yesterday but he was still in control of the puck. So it counted as a hit for us I'm sure but it was a very ineffective hit.

We're talking degrees here. We're not operating at the appropriate degree of intensity and grit to really earn the right to snap out of this streak. And turning it on in the 3rd pd is just comical at this point.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

zmega

They've lost faith in their coach. It is as clear as day. Watch the TSN video from the link I posted. The are knowledgable, impartial and know what they are talking about. They brought up points I overlooked and said to myself "Oh yeah, that makes sense now!".

Have you ever worked for a boss that was a completely clueless tool? I have and I can tell you I did just enough to keep my job while looking for another one.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

thx PSD. I can be contacted at cstanton1@hotmail.com

all fan mail will be responded to.

$1.50 per signed photo. Contrary to rumor, compromising photos of capscoach are not avail for sale, I repeat NOT AVAIL.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

FIRE BB IMMEDIATELY!!!! Take the C away from OV. OV and Backs are terrible. This team is a terrible team. The rest of the NHL has figured out how to beat these bums. They need to fire BB today he can't adjust. He can spend the holidays dropping F bombs and hanging out with Joe Hadeed. He sucks as a head coach. Time to go BB!!!

Posted by: philiphearst | December 19, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Donovan is deservedly benched. Now the only step left besides finding a good QB is Shanahan admitting at the end of the season that he made a colossal mistake in trading for an inconsistent QB whose athleticism has long since deserted him. I want that public admission from MS.
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That will never happen. I said from the very beginning that I would go with a young coach like Baltimore did with Harbaugh because I don't believe in hiring retreads.

But I have to admit that even I didn't think Shanahan would be this much of a failure. Like the guys on the NFL network said this morning, any GM or headcoach in charge of the personnel would have a lot to answer for if he made the kinda mistake Shanahan did with McNabb. Many would lose his job over it.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Ted's thinking -- please tell me this is nothing more than an aberration and that my previously-entrenched faith in the "plan" is still valid

GM's thinking -- how do I sell Ted on this being nothing more than an aberration that requires minor, not major, tinkering. And if necessary, how do I fire BB without looking like I've made him a scapegoat

BB's thinking -- I've become the Steve Spurrier of the NHL. The catchy one-liners and promises of offensive greatness are a thing of the past.

(At least BB's vision did translate to the reg season unlike Spurrier's who only proved his system in the preseason.)

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

OccasionalCritic

It's been well documented that other teams have figured out BB's system. I can guarantee the message sent in the Bruins locker room before the game was "Let's jump on em early boys!". The Caps are shaken by the slump, but everyone knew prior to the slump you can basically score at will against them in the 1st period.

Once a new coach is brought in OV will be revitalized and playing like we're accustomed to seeing. The video on the TSN link I provided, one guy mentioned the OV yucking it up with Kovy incident after a loss. He didn't make a big deal out of that. He did note OV disregard for BB by ignoring his presence and being so loud it distracted his interview.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Put me as one who thinks that last night third period play by the Caps was the turning point. Why do I say that? Just a hunch that they will carry the energy to the next game and forward.

Posted by: hock1 | December 19, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

So in the midst of an 8 game losing streak, your biggest gripe is about the damn other posters, and that's *not* making an excuse?

I mean, I realize that at this point I'm arguing with someone who actually admitted to everyone that selling jerseys was more important to them than winning championships, but come on....

You can say over and over again that your obsession with the fact that other posters aren't unicorns and rainbows enough for you isn't an excuse, but at the very least it's a deflection on where blame is really due. You can say it's not until you're blue in the face (Erm, finger) but it's transparent to everyone with a rational thought.

You're whole M.O. on this board is to make excuses for coaching and management. We get it, you don't think anyone from BB to GMGM is to blame for this. At this point, why are you still posting?

Posted by: VTDuffman

@VTDuffman

I'm confused, what purpose does it serve me to "deflect" blame? I do not work for the Caps and receive no paycheck. Just because I make a comment on a board that isn't griping and moaning does not mean I am deflecting.

Pointing out how posters would react in a similar griping and moaning fashion last night if the Caps had won exactly how the Bruins won is an accurate observation. It has nothing to do if it is my "biggest gripe" or not, it is only an accurate observation I was posting.

Have you or anyone on here seen the South Park episode with Captain Hindsight? That is where many, including you, fall.

At this point in the season, the only true change the Caps can make that will have a significant effect is a coaching change. A GM change at this point will do nothing. If they want to change GMs then that is best done after a season is completed. Since there are not too many options, one option to try is to try to let the team battle through it. None of the options are 100% guarantees of working, you have to pick the best option.

In addition, while firing a coach is an option, you better be confident in the person you are replacing him with. Who would you replace BB with? Why would you choose that coach? Would that potential coach have any interest in coaching in Washington? There are many more questions that need to be answered before firing a coach. So why don't you throw out some answers.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 19, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

During the slump, the Caps have had good periods, but they cannot stich together a good game. So the last period does not convince me that BigBaby knows what he is doing. They may get a W against the woeful Sens or Devils, but even the Devils beat up on the Caps during this skid. I just see more loses with BigBaby with his crud system.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

hock1

Put me down as one who thinks the 3rd period broke the Caps will. All that effort for what? ANOTHER loss.

No morning update and now it's going on 1PM??? Is something going on behind the scene (fingers crossed/quick prayer)? After another thumping bringing the total to EIGHT I'd expect more chatter than this.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

i imagine the flight from bos to ottawa is the reason for no posts

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

In addition, while firing a coach is an option, you better be confident in the person you are replacing him with. Who would you replace BB with? Why would you choose that coach? Would that potential coach have any interest in coaching in Washington? There are many more questions that need to be answered before firing a coach. So why don't you throw out some answers.
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Konowalchuk - I always thought he would make a good coach someday even during his playing days and I'm sure he would take the job.

And I prefer a young coach. All the "big-name" coaches had to make their bones in the league before they became a big-name.

Maybe what this team needs is a younger coach who isn't too far removed from his playing days.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

sgm3

I believe any coach would love to stand behind the Caps bench. Wanna talk about walking into a Cup potential team! I'm confident Keenan or Nolan would shape these guys up in NO time. Players that show no heart, grit, effort will be tossed aside.

The new coach has no alliances to players who've played for him in the past currently receiving special treatment. That alone is one of the largest problems, zero accountability even after BB threatened players will be scratched based on performance. He couldn't even follow through with that, so why would a player worry about his standing on the team?

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Joe.

I prefer a young coach as well.

Someone diametrically opposite to a Butch Cass.

Find a young coach who coaches aggressive in-your-face hockey who also understands how to nurture creative offensive talent but who first and foremost emphasizes strong tough team defense. Those guys ARE out there. Just make sure its not McPhee who has to make that decision because he'll go looking for a coach who'll promise him 7 goals a game.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

joek443

The Caps tried that with Cassidy... EACK!!!

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

The Caps need a calm disciplinarian, like Larry Robinson with NJD -- he could be hired away. Hitch is free now, and he plays defense first, disciplined system. Kono is a maybe, if he knows how to discipline a team and develop good, responsible systems. Huntsy is also a great possibility. Bob Woods could make a decent interim.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

The Caps tried that with Cassidy... EACK!!!
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and who picked that coach?? there's your problem right there!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm confident Keenan or Nolan would shape these guys up in NO time.
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They already passed on Nolan at the time they hired Butch. They didn't like him.

Keenan and McPhee could never co-exist. For one, Keenan would want to be in charge of personnel decisions. And he and McPhee think totally opposite on that.

McPhee's going to want a coach he can boss around. So it'll be either a younger guy he can intimidate, or it'll be an older guy who's just happy to be back in the NHL loop so he'll put up and shut up.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

@Biggamesyd

Will you start throwing batteries at Syd when his skills decline ? That's why Dave Parker left town. Just curious ????????????

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 19, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

First of all, I think changing a GM NOW is not a bad idea if you're willing to write the season off as a whole. I am. I think even if they get the right coach in here (highly unlikely given who is in charge of making that decision), that there's little chance the Caps will be winning a Cup or going far this season. Its not gonna happen.

So fire the GM now, let the new GM have half a season to evaluate and make changes heading into the next offseason.

That way he can enter next offseason by hitting the ground running. Look how quickly an Atlanta was able to resurface. They are going about it the right way as well - personnel and style-wise.

If you wait till after the season's over to evaluate McPhee, he'll say his new coach just needs more time to make things work. And if you fire him at that point, the new GM will have little time before the draft or FA to make any impact. Therefore, it'll be a wasted offseason.

So, forget firing the coach. Odds are against it being the right guy. The GM must go.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1

Ted needs to jump in and dump them both then!

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

and lets face it, if McPhee feels pressure to make personnel changes, do you really want him to be in charge of that? The odds are he'll screw us over even more. He's got a less than stellar track record when it comes to trades. He doesn't do it often enough to get a feel for it, and he'll probably saddle us with more non-character one-dimensional players. His first move will probably be to give Poti an even longer extension.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1

Ted needs to jump in and dump them both then!

Posted by: FLDave

unfortunately for us, he 'leaves hockey upto the professionals.'

i can't even imagine Ted has the guts to pull a move like that.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

No more young guys or guys who have never played extensivly in the NHL playoffs.

The last three coaching selections by this goof have stunk BIG TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want an in your face guy. The guys on this team have no GUTS.

We know KONO and HUNTER first hand. Time to go to an experienced "play off" head coach or a former NHL level player who knows what it takes to win 16 while injured in the spring.

BB is Mr. MaGoo at this point. He is not Stanley Cup Material. That's very obvious from the HBO show. MCPhee is a freakin' attorney. What is he doing teaching law school classes when he should be watching tape.

Ted, The show is over. Get some "NHL level" management in here.

GM for GM of the year in '09. What a joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 19, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I heard somewhere that the last time a DC pro sports team won was December 3. Lat night I was flipping channels between the Caps being unable to score at the end of their game and the Wizards making a series of truly bone-headed plays to give away a game against the Heat. The Skins are down 13-0 and it could have been worse.

Is there a worse pro sports town than DC now?

Posted by: zmega | December 19, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

IMO Guy Carbonneau, Craig Mactavish, Mike Keenan, Ken Hitchcock are some available coaches. All defensive minded, discipline coaches. Could you imagine facing a defensive minded, hard forechecking, counter attacking team like the Caps? Teams tend to take the personality of the coach. I can't wait to hear: "The Caps took advantage of a bad line change to score." Instead of: "The goal was a result of an odd-man rush caused by a poor line change by the Caps." And of course after the game BB stating: "If it wasn't for a few bad line changes we wouldn't have lost our 10th str8 game. Oh well, we will just work on a few things in practice after giving the girls (opps I mean team) a well deserved day off."

Posted by: chriscaps | December 19, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Caps win tonight. I guarantee it.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 19, 2010 9:12 AM

Do you sell men's suits for a living?

BTW, anyone watch Hannan play D last night? He puts his paw up to the other player's chest to stop the rush when the puck is loose at their skates. Other caps D all try the poke check. It was nice to watch Hannan.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 19, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal

On the last Bruins goal hannan was literally shoving some guy out of the crease! I liked that...didn't like that someone else then lost their mark and boston scored anyway.

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Scary part that I do believe that Caps will tonight and beat Devils, then everyone will be yay we are good, then we will lose to Pens, and BB will have the best excuse that we play against one of the best team in hockey and the rest we already know for past 3 weeks. Fire BB now before it will be too late. if Caps can't win 8 games in a row, same story can happen in play offs. 2-3 games loosing streak is possible, and thats fine, happens with every team, but not 8! 10% of the season already lost.

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 19, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

What coaching experience does Konowalchuk have? I honestly don't know so I'm just asking.

Ted Nolan won't be coaching in the NHL again.

"First of all, I think changing a GM NOW is not a bad idea if you're willing to write the season off as a whole. I am."

That is true, if the Caps are willing to write off the season then you could replace the GM at this point. But I am in no way writing off the season because of an 8 game losing streak. I still have good hope the Caps will win the SC. By that, I mean about an 8%-10% chance, which is a decent shot.

Since you are writing off the season, then I am assuming you will not be watching much and will not watch the playoffs because there is no chance the Caps will win.

Caveat: you will watch if Ted fires GMGM and BB, then you will watch.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 19, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

*i meant will win it tonight

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | December 19, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

"I also believe that the hockey IQ of the Caps players is not where it should be. Hockey IQ is something that cannot be coached."

It absolutely can be COACHED. It's called a trade, demotion to the AHL, benching or healthy scratch.
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I think you are confusing effort with IQ. IQ is something you inherently have or do not have.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

So, forget firing the coach. Odds are against it being the right guy. The GM must go.
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I'm with you on this one mate.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I think you are confusing effort with IQ. IQ is something you inherently have or do not have.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 2:55 PM

i think you are confusing IQ with instinct. instinct is something you inherently have or do not have. IQ is your ability to learn/comprehend - which everybody has

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 19, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

i think maybe having to fight for wins, for playoff spots ect. will be good for the team that had it kinda easy last year cruising for most of the reg season and had already locked up the SE by now and when it was fighting time ie the playoffs against Montreal who had to fight until the end of the season just to get in and were already in fighting mode punch the Caps in the mouth and they hadnt seen their own blood all season didnt know what to do. this year the are seeing some blood early so in the long run should be good for them ...Hey jump off now but dont come back in March, April, May and June and look to get back on...

Posted by: heathdog1119 | December 19, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

i think maybe having to fight for wins, for playoff spots ect. will be good for the team that had it kinda easy last year cruising for most of the reg season and had already locked up the SE by now and when it was fighting time ie the playoffs against Montreal who had to fight until the end of the season just to get in and were already in fighting mode punch the Caps in the mouth and they hadnt seen their own blood all season didnt know what to do. this year the are seeing some blood early so in the long run should be good for them ...Hey jump off now but dont come back in March, April, May and June and look to get back on...

Posted by: heathdog1119 | December 19, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

We're talking degrees here. We're not operating at the appropriate degree of intensity and grit to really earn the right to snap out of this streak.
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I'm with you on this one too. Unleash the nastiness!

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Unleash the nastiness!

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan

in 3 to 5 weeks - the 'big nasty' is missed

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 19, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I think you are confusing effort with IQ. IQ is something you inherently have or do not have.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 2:55 PM

i think you are confusing IQ with instinct. instinct is something you inherently have or do not have. IQ is your ability to learn/comprehend - which everybody has
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I can go along with that and yes, everybody has an IQ to a varying degree.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Unleash the nastiness!

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan

in 3 to 5 weeks - the 'big nasty' is missed
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I don't think that will solve the Caps problems (see cstanton1 posts, he explains it much better than I).

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

FloridaCapsFan:
that was more of a play on your words - nastiness made me think of big nasty. for someone that is 6-6 - his is not as physical as one would hope for him to be. but when paired with green - they compliment each other very well - in that sense - he is missed and will make the team better when he returns

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 19, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

here's a wacky idea, now i may be either crazy or a genius or a mixture of both but here it goes...

i've noticed that a game consists of 3 periods that are 20 minutes long, right...

so i think, maybe the players should actually try to compete for the entire time. i think it might help.

i mean i can understand taking a period or two off during a game. you don't wanna get bruised up or sore that just sucks the next day and can affect your golf swing.

i just thought, maybe, during an 8 game slide you'd want to come out and actually start playing hard at the beginning of the game and continue that effort for each and every following minute until the game is over.

we've already shown we can be passive and nice to the other team by not hitting them or "making life miserable" for them. We've done a really good job at that.

What if and it's a big what if, but what if we made life miserable for the opposing team? what if we actually played hard and hit people? what if we actually played the game for the entire 60 minutes?

Jeepers, it just might work you know. I mean heck can't get worse, can it?

Posted by: natresgroup | December 19, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

FloridaCapsFan:
that was more of a play on your words - nastiness made me think of big nasty. for someone that is 6-6 - his is not as physical as one would hope for him to be. but when paired with green - they compliment each other very well - in that sense - he is missed and will make the team better when he returns
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Oh, sorry, completely missed that.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

If the Caps don't make a coaching change, there will not be a bandwagon to jump on in May much less June. I'm sure in June we will be watching the Red Wings & Peguins playing for the Cup while Ovie and his buddies try to figure out what went wrong AGAIN. The Caps will have another excuse instead of a chance at the Stanley Cup. BTW, keep those stupid division winner banners in the equipment room, they just celebrate another year of what could have been. BB & heathdog1119 can have fun watching another team playing for the Cup.

Posted by: chriscaps | December 19, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

He puts his paw up to the other player's chest to stop the rush when the puck is loose at their skates. Other caps D all try the poke check. It was nice to watch Hannan
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yeah, he does do that. What he doesn't do however is he doesn't seal off his man skating down the wing. If a forward is rushing down the lane, our D as a whole concedes the lane all the way to the end boards instead of sealing off the path. Then if the forward still has the puck is when our D goes and approaches him on the end boards. We don't get those hits along the wall on an onrushing player. No hip checks, no shoulder checks.

Green's play on Horton was nice to see because he finished him off. But it would be even nicer to see most of our D attempt to take out a forward before he's deep inside our zone.


@sgm

your comment about how I shouldn't watch any more hockey if I dont' think they have a chance to win the Cup this yr is frankly highly moronic. Fraught with gaping holes.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Caveat: you will watch if Ted fires GMGM and BB, then you will watch.

Posted by: sgm3

Yes I will certainly watch then. But I haven't had any faith they would win the Cup for the previous yrs and I still watched then. Even when they took the best rec in the reg season last yr. So this losing streak doesn't affect my desire to watch or not watch them. They're pretty much the same type of team I've gotten used to watching and being frustrated with for a while now.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

What coaching experience does Konowalchuk have? I honestly don't know so I'm just asking.
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He's been an asst. to Joe Sacco in Colorado since last year... that's more coaching experience at the NHL level than BB had when he got hired.

And unlike the Caps, Colorado is a team that has OVER-ACHIEVED since the start of last year.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Dineen and Hunter as assistants or maybe one of them as a head coach.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

No matter what happens...BB and GMGM get fired, they don't, we make the playoffs, we don't...the Caps are our team and I will support them when they are down which will just make my support of them when they win that much sweeter.

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

@VTDuffman

I'm confused, what purpose does it serve me to "deflect" blame? I do not work for the Caps and receive no paycheck. Just because I make a comment on a board that isn't griping and moaning does not mean I am deflecting.
---sgm--

what purpose then does it serve for the "haters" to deflect blame towards the coach and GM since we don't work for some type of rival organization that would benefit if those 2 got fired? But that is exactly what you said in the past is the motivation for us to blame GM and BB. That we do it for the sake of doing it even if there is nothing to warrant that type of criticism.

"Have you or anyone on here seen the South Park episode with Captain Hindsight? That is where many, including you, fall."

Where exactly do YOU fall? Oh right..with the group that never saw something like this coming, where Bruce is now on the hot seat this early in the year. We'll just chalk that upto a massive miscalcuation on your part.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Redskins making a comeback? Making a game of it anyway.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

No matter what happens...BB and GMGM get fired, they don't, we make the playoffs, we don't...the Caps are our team and I will support them when they are down which will just make my support of them when they win that much sweeter.

Posted by: capscoach

i don't think anyone here who is a fan feels differently.
But criticizing the GM and the coach does not equate to abandoning the team. In fact, quite the opposite. And thinking they won't win the Cup also doesn't make anyone any less of a fan.
Just to make it clear :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

agree! Ihv no problem with people critisizing the team...but a few on here seem to really hate the team and too qick to turn on them when things go wrong.

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Redskins making a comeback? Making a game of it anyway.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

yeah glad to see the offense puttin up pts for the skins. I'm no Rex fan but boy would I love to hear the Donovan chirpers quiet down if the Skins offense gets on track the last 3 games.


btw, i caught some of the Blues-Sharks game last night. And even the Sharks who are having an uneven season still understand some basics about hockey that completely eludes our Capitals. For ex, when the Sharks are up early in the game on the road, a guy like Ryane Clowe is still looking to assert himself physically. First he basically dares the Blues defense to push him out of the way and then goes back at Barret Jackman. When Crombeen steps in they have a fight. I think a subtle move like that where Clowe is still pushing the pace instead of letting his team relax after a 1 goal lead (esp on the road) is a good sign to his teammates that they need to keep their foot on the gas.

Then, after the Sharks go up by 2 goals, the Blues try to pick a fight and Mayers answers the challenge and beats up Winchester. The Caps in that situation would be both hesitant to answer a challenge, and if they did it would be Brads or Hendricks getting beat up by a bigger player. We don't have the horses to play that kind of game.

The rest of the gm from what I saw was chippy and hard hitting but the Sharks never conceded anything. The Caps in that situation would most likely allow the home team to take the play to them, esp physically. The Sharks wouldn't concede that advantage and its that kind of play that you also see from teams like Phi, Pitt, Rangers. They're very aware of the physical tone of the game and they are also aware of not lapsing into complacency just because they take the lead in the game. You don't see a dropoff in finishing checks or answering a physical challenge.

For the Caps to get to that level of play, it'll take quite a bit of reconfiguration.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin is considerably lighter and appears to have been neutered, Green appears soft (literally & figuratively).

To dismiss any notion that performance enhancing drugs Were used or were terminated is naive, that may very well be the case.

Not to mention they're on the NHL radar, so taking anything now would be stupid.

These guys better learn how to do it the right way and every night, every period.

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

No CI posts since midnight last night with two games in two nigths, this is getting a bit odd.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

agree! Ihv no problem with people critisizing the team...but a few on here seem to really hate the team and too qick to turn on them when things go wrong.

Posted by: capscoach

I prolly shouldn't speak for anyone else since I havent' read every post but I do know that sometimes what seems like a hasty judgment on a fan's part really stems from longstanding frustrations that spill out when their fears about the team get validated.

Frankly, I think this entire season has been a positive experience because you learn more from adversity than you do from successes. Well, that's not always true because success can validate your philosophy as well. But in the Caps it certainly is true that it takes adversity for them to recalibrate their own philosophies on what it takes to win in this league. Because unfortunately, their successes have driven home the wrong msg.

hope to see a good effort tonight. One of their best efforts this season was early this yr v the Senators. I still think the Sens have some very good young character players who could help us out. Jesse Winchester, Jim O'Brien, Foligno, Zack Smith, etc. And of course Neil and Fisher are the bigger names.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

It is our patriotic duty as Americans to constantly complain if you're not happy about the direction that your team is headed, not doing so is simply un-American and it's what makes this country great and separates us from the darn Communists!!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

@joek

don'try that on me...I am a history teacher!

@cstanton

did u sneak something when I wasn't watching you? you sounded far to pleasant in that last post.

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Well maybe the reason they have stunk is because their source got busted and they knew they were on the radar and could no longer do the juice. Other teams have players using roids. This idea that there is no roids in the NHL is naive. They only get tested three times a year. Also if water polo players. cyclists and baseball players do roids there is no doubt in my mind that NHL players do it. Folks roids are everywhere in professional sports. Testing can be beat and there are new drugs all the time.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Steroids help heal injury recovery time. Isn't interesting that the Three Capitals that visted the Chiroproctor all had major injury issues throughout their career. One of those guys could have gotten the roids for the rest of the team. Also the last shipment sent was enough for a whole professional sports team before the playoffs yet said chirprocter said it was for personal use. I am only speculating but to think the NHL does not have an issue with performance enhancing drugs is crazy.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

@cheef

Ovie is bigger this year...some say over muscled to the point that it has slowed him down.

The NHL also randomly checks every team at least 2x a year. and ovie's problems have nothing to do with weakness.

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Pkme, oh please do not pick up on Cheef's crazy roid rant

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 19, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

You're wrong, Ovechkin came in at least 15 lbs down, also missing male genitalia.

Green is flabby and weak.

I'm not saying it's certain, just saying they're both physically less imposing, especially Ovechkin.

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

HOW BOUT THEM RAVENS!

Capscoach: History is my favorite subject! Do you have a specialty? I took just about all the upper level American History Colonial through Gilded Age. Also enjoyed British Hist and of course Euro Military Hist.

Towson State Univ '79. Major was political science.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 19, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

If the Caps were on roids this year they would play angry, faster, stronger hockey. No chance and judging by Montreal they were absolutely not on roids at that time either. First let me say I would endorse steroids for The Caps at this time because I believe that would help them win (just joking). BTW, for all those that do not knw I am joking around a little bit on all of my above posts. Seriously if they were on The Roids just watching them this whole season would be bad for The steroid business. Or maybe The Pens have a pharmacy in their new facility where Professor Mario makes cocktails.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

OVi came in at 234 is the last thing I read. There is no doubt OVi is carrying too much weight and it will shorten his career. Too much pressure on the joints and the body. I do not think today's palyers will last as long as the previous generation. Could Wayne Gretsky play in today's NHL?

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

OVi came in at 234 is the last thing I read. There is no doubt OVi is carrying too much weight and it will shorten his career. Too much pressure on the joints and the body. I do not think today's palyers will last as long as the previous generation. Could Wayne Gretsky play in today's NHL?

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

I like history too. For example, the past 13 yrs in washington caps history. My favorite subject!

Tom, you graduated in '79? From college? sheesh..my future ex-wife wasn't even born then.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

The juice was there last year, I'd bet on it.

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, honestly, something is wrong with Ovechkin. He skates, he falls. He shoots, it's off target. He tries to pass, he whiffs. Tries to bring the puck up ice through four defenders, he loses is.

Could be physical, could be in his head. He was like this a few days after his grandfather died but got over it. Jagr was like this too if you remember due to g-friend and gambling issues.

BTW, if Ovechkin is like anyone from the past, it's Gordie Howe. Howe won 6 MVPs over 12 years. It's hard to stay at the top continuously. We'll see how Ovi bounches back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Memorial_Trophy

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 19, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

@JIMALLCAPS2

Katie is a very reluctant CI updater. Wapo should at least get someone that is interested in letting the fans know what is going on, such as: did the Caps skate this morning? If they did, what were the comments of the players? Did Semin join the team in Ottawa and if he did, will he play tonight? What about the goaltending? Although the big problem during the current streak has been the offense or lack of it, goaltending has been a real problem as well. Both goalies have been giving up a lot of very bad goals and it hurts the team to be down a goal or two so often that it makes it very tough to come back. Just look at the Rangers game - very bad goals given up. maybe getting Vokoun may not be a bad idea - in addition to getting a #2 center. But none of these questions are getting asked by CI.

Posted by: MReilly9 | December 19, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal

I prefer Amer. History and Engish History from the Tudors to the late 18th century.

I am not much of a military historian (the girl in me)

My 1st year teaching was U.S. gov't, but they let all the first year teachers in my county at the end of the year b/c of budget, so I moved back here and am subbing until some teaching jobs open up again.

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Judging by their play, they act like they were on quaaludes, not roids.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal

I prefer Amer. History and Engish History from the Tudors to the late 18th century.

I am not much of a military historian (the girl in me)

My 1st year teaching was U.S. gov't, but they let all the first year teachers in my county at the end of the year b/c of budget, so I moved back here and am subbing until some teaching jobs open up again.

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I think Katie has done a pretty good job. Sometimes her thoughts are all over the place or not succint but she is new and pretty young. Give her a chance. I think she will do fine.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

YOU'RE DIVORCING ME!!!! I will take you for all you have you 2 timing nimcompoop!

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

YOU'RE DIVORCING ME!!!! I will take you for all you have you 2 timing nimcompoop!

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Good job, Cheef. Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Posted by: zmega | December 19, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Vokoun or even Hasek can't help your team if you don't score any goals or in this case 11 goals in 8 games, 1.38/game...

can those goalies give you 1.3 GAA??

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Tom, you graduated in '79? From college? sheesh..my future ex-wife wasn't even born then.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 4:46 PM

cstanton: As your financial advisor, I would suggest staying away from such young women. Older women are more appreciative and have more money. Plus they are "experienced."

The best kind of woman is a grizzled vet not afraid to clean out the crease. One who can win 16 while hurt. And you want the ones willing to drop the mitts. And you want one who can handle her beer so she can drive you home.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 19, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I needed a history class to get a minor and the only avail was African American history. so I signed up for it, and ended up being the only non afro in the class. My professor comes into class on Feb 1st and says,

"Guess what day this is? Its the first day of African-Am History month. Not coincidentally, its also the shortest month of the year!"

I felt the glares, and away we went.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

The best kind of woman is a grizzled vet not afraid to clean out the crease.
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jesus, first time i read that thru I thought you said the best kind of woman is a grizzled vet who isn't afraid to clean out HER crease.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

capscoach: Yes, those are most of my favorites. At one time I had memorized all the English Kings since Wm/Conq and all French since Hugh Capet. That was well before you were born.

If you and cstanton split, what becomes of your adopted son, sgm3?

Ignore Cheef he is CiC, Doofus Brigade.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 19, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Here's the only fact that matters:

Ovechkin to date, sucks.

My other comments were speculation.

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

YOU'RE DIVORCING ME!!!! I will take you for all you have you 2 timing nimcompoop!

Posted by: capscoach

you can have it all, but only if you let me toss the little one into the deal.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

the decline is due to the players and gmgm....firing bb doesnt change that...ov is and will continue to decline just like another overpaid euro( his buddy IK) who takes the money and runs

Posted by: wendel2 | December 19, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

It is our patriotic duty as Americans to constantly complain if you're not happy about the direction that your team is headed, not doing so is simply un-American and it's what makes this country great and separates us from the darn Communists!!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 4:10 PM

it's sad - but i believe that you believe this

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 19, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Back to the basics.

McPhee is the worst GM in hockey !

This is and always has been the problem.

Posted by: Cheef | December 19, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Here's the only fact that matters:

Ovechkin to date, sucks.
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That is obvious to even the casual observer.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 19, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

quick Hershey update:

Currently ranked 19th in the AHL.

2 of the more prominent Caps "skill" prospects - Dimitri Kugryshev and Francois Bouchard - have combined for 6 goals in 48 games total.

So front-line help is not necessarily around the corner. And I expect the same iffy development from the 2 Russians we drafted this past yr. Although I hope to be proven wrong.

good comment here by Zach Miskovic (a pretty non-physical player in his own right). At least he tries to transcend his own daffidol rep.

Miskovic was effective at getting the puck through from the point. And he again flashed the increased feistiness he’s showcased as a sophomore, particularly during a third-period joust with P-Bruins captain Jeremy Reich after he interfered with Aucoin.

“He wanted to push around a little bit and I just wasn’t going to take it,” Miskovic said. “I wanted to play with a little chip on my shoulder, and he decided he wanted to try to mess around with Coiner a little bit. You can’t have that with some of our top players. I’m just trying to stand up for some of our guys and just do a little extra job there.”

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

You're GD right Kirk, anyone who doesn't believe it is a GD communist...

It's a GD travesity that Truman wouldn't let MacArthur use the bomb on the GD Chinese and North Korean communists!!! Imagine how much better off we all would be.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

@Hunter

I could care less about anything else that has to do with Pittsburgh... other sports, employment, the city itself. How do you even know if I'm from, or living in Pittsburgh? Not like your city and sports franchises have anything to brag about. Who cares.

Stick to hockey instead ok buddy? You should really be focusing your anger and bitterness towards the joke of a hockey team with such lofty expectations year in year out only to show how pathetic and fragile it really is on the inside.

I'd rather have a team that does not possess otherworldly talent, knows that it sucks, but works their azes off every night, trying to improve, learn and get better at everything, like the Oilers... instead of a fake team like the Caps who are blessed with individual talent but consistently choke and make the same mistakes over, over and over again.

Great that you have OV8, the model of failure and talented individual with no brains whatsoever.

It's funny how you all keep blame the goaltending, the coaching staff, the GM, and whoever else... sure they contribute to the problems it seems, but it starts with your best and franchise player, your captain, the guy who you're paying 10mil per every season, the most in the NHL. He's doing SQUAT on the ice (unless you call running around with his head cut off as something meaningful) and his production has fallen off the cliff... FOR WHAT? Is he a better leader? Is he making others around him better? Is he defending better? He's the one who you should be blaming first and foremost not anyone else.

But like everyone else you're all coddling him, the media goes so easy on him, and the Caps would never dare criticise him... because he's YOUR "golden child".

Well at least the Pens "golden child" is a proven leader, winner, and hard worker in this league. While your treatment of OV8 has resulted in what... more losing and failures? Yea OK keep it up.

Posted by: BigGameSid | December 19, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Kirk, you don't believe its our patriotic duty to question the leadership of ..frankly..anything? From govt on down?

I understand its not productive to complain for the sake of complaining or leak EVERYTHING that occurs behind closed doors. But without watchdog groups out there you're basically encouraging corruption and incompetence. Evne with the recent WikiLeak scandal, there was some very important leakage that went on which exposed a level of coercion and corruption that needed to be exposed.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

You're GD right Kirk, anyone who doesn't believe it is a GD communist...

It's a GD travesity that Truman wouldn't let MacArthur use the bomb on the GD Chinese and North Korean communists!!! Imagine how much better off we all would be.

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 5:23 PM

that was sarcasm - right?

exterminate anyone/anything you don't care for - that sounds a lot like hitlers attitude.

you don't have kids - do you? at least i hope not.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 19, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The sports equivalent here is the Dallas Cowboys (despite beating the 'Skins, barely, today). A team that everyone predicted to win, and instead their defensive-expert head coach began coughing up 40+ point losers and was kicked out a little more than half-way through the season with a horrid 1-8 record.

The Caps aren't scoring with their "offensive expert" head coach. Midway point of the season is around the end of January. There is a lot of pressure on the Caps by a lot of people who a lot riding on things like the HBO 24/7 series, the NHL Winter Classic, etc. If the Caps blow through both with their losing streak intact, then it will be time to consider major changes (Rick Tocchet, Ken Hitchkock and others are no doubt panting and drooling in the wings to take over this team, and that would just about complete its destruction). I for one would really like to see balance return to the force and the Caps great scoring opportunities become goals.

Posted by: Exile_in_Philly | December 19, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

ov was born a communist wasn"t he?

Posted by: wendel2 | December 19, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

beforeitstoolate

Actually I am hoping they will lose until a coaching change is made. I have not liked the way the Caps have been playing since the end of the regular season last year. Watching them tear it up early on I didn't like the way they were playing even with the 8-1 victories. It made for great highlight footage but did nothing to establish a playoff winning style. They've actually looked better in a couple of losing efforts than they did while winning.

tominsocal1

Great observation on Hannan hockey defense 101. Too bad Poti will never touch a forward...

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

exterminate anyone/anything you don't care for - that sounds a lot like hitlers attitude.
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LOL I take it that you're not familiar with the Korean War... we didn't start the war, they did

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, Ovy doesn't concern me. I think he'll be fine. A lot of his doldrums I think is related to being on a team that he knows is missing some critical components. And it can't help his mindset that he also knows the Pens and Crosby are way ahead of the Caps. Ahead in the recent past, ahead in the present, and ahead in the future as well.

I've seen star players underperform and then regain their former self once they get revitalized in a new regime. Ovy will be fine.

Crosby in this system would also be underachieving right about now..

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

i'll tell you who started the vietnam war.

Harry S Truman.

take that one to the bank!

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Kirk, you don't believe its our patriotic duty to question the leadership of ..frankly..anything? From govt on down?

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:28 PM

everyone/anyone should question just about anything - it is an outstanding way to learn. but the statement wasn't about questioning leadership:

"It is our patriotic duty as Americans to constantly complain if you're not happy about the direction that your team is headed, not doing so is simply un-American and it's what makes this country great and separates us from the darn Communists!!!"

i would ask you - not complaining makes one a communist?

complaining just to complain, imo, is a negative trait that accomplishes nothing and incites other to just complain as well.
you, on the other hand, have a very specific point of view (which you can express) - that to some would be considered pessimistic or negative - but i view as insightful - even if/when i don't agree with it

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 19, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Biggamesid.

I was saying last year how OVI's game has not evolved. He is not playing smarter or better hockey. I remember when Crosby came up his shot at times was suspect, his faceoff percenatge was not very good and he stunk at defense. There is no question that Crosby worked his tail off to get better and he did. Crosby at this point and I would even say last year passed OVI. It is no longer a contest and no one on here really cares. Truth be told Backstrom has and is my favorite player on The Caps followed by Green. Tell you what how about you give us Crosby and we will give you OVI. Sounds fair. I never liked one way players. I like players that can play the full ice and if OVI can not generate offense than he is about as useful as Eric Fehr.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

"Crosby in this system would also be underachieving right about now.."

Bingo again, twice today I believe! Unfortunately the Canadian hockey media has targeted you much like Salman Rushdie was by the muslims, but the bounty's 3 times higher. In response TSN countered that Crosby is still able to walk on water and then turn said water into wine.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

They've actually looked better in a couple of losing efforts than they did while winning
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tis the truth. I've actually enjoyed the Caps efforts in some of the games they've lost simply because they've been forced to play harder. They're actually more watchable now in some ways.

This team has to hit rock bottom, make the changes necessary, then stick their heads back out of their holes with a tweaked style and system and learn to play hockey a different way then they've been playing.

They'll be growing pains along the way but I feel confident that if they play the RIGHT way, they will get support from the "haters" even moreso then they will from some of the "kool-aiders" who will end up feeling disillusioned that this team isn't hanging 6 or 7 goals on a hapless opponent or picking up 120 pts during the reg season playing run-n-gun reckless hockey.

And it doesn't have to be boring hockey either. You can find that balance, other teams have.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1

Watching our guys get beat up is getting old and demoralizing. I guess the teammates are tired of watching their buddies get beatdown as well.

I think this might be the last loss they'll need to force GMGM's hand to replace Bird Call Boy. It would be awesome to be able to root for my team to win again!

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

We need capscoach to mediate this history dispute!

Let's see...I thought they traced seeds of Vietnam War to some event in 1954. Something to do with French.

That would be Eisenhower.

Truman did stop the railroad strike! And Reagan stopped the ATC strike! Now there's two Presidents with grit!

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 19, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

i would ask you - not complaining makes one a communist?

complaining just to complain, imo, is a negative trait that accomplishes nothing and incites other to just complain as well.
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you sound as old as Kornheiser and his buddies on his radio show when they were discussing the negative message that they thought Kobe Bryant and other celebs were sending on the TV commercial for the Call of Duty Black Ops video game... LMAO "there's a soldier in all of us", yup that's a very dangerous message alright!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

thx Kirk, I appreciate that.

Catch the talk after the game tonight.

The simple game plan for a road game for us right now should be to play a tighter defensive style in the 1st, while the home team blows its load trying to get a lead on us. By the time the 2nd pd has started, the emotional advantage of a home game has usually disippated and that's where you can start being more aggressive in the offensive zone.

ftr, playing a more conservative offensive style earlier in the game does not equate to playing it soft. It just means that your entire 5 players on the ice should be quicker to collapse in the neutral zone then they are to be caught in deep on the forecheck. Which also means our D should be less aggressive joining any type of rush. Otherwise when Dave Steckel gives up the puck at the blueline, we'll get caught skating the wrong way.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pblj3JHF-Jo

yup, this commercial should be banned... it's a bad messsage to the youth of this great country, I tell ya!!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...I thought they traced seeds of Vietnam War to some event in 1954. Something to do with French.

That would be Eisenhower.

Truman did stop the railroad strike! And Reagan stopped the ATC strike! Now there's two Presidents with grit!

Posted by: tominsocal1

no way...the seeds were planted way earlier. FDR struck an agreement with OSS operative Ho Chi Minh to support the Vietnamese people in their battle to kick the colonial French out of Vietnam. In return, Ho Chi Minh helped kick the Japs out of Vietnam who were occupying it at the time (since the French rolled over as they are prone to do)

When Truman took over, he basically reneged on the agreement and gave Vietnam back to the French. Now if you're a Vietnamese farmer (soon to be VC), and you're being run by a Catholic entity who doesn't care for nor understand Buddhism, and who is taxing you 80% on your land profits, do you really care whether your preferred ideaology is "communism" v "democracy" ?

answer of course is no, you'll go follow whatever idealogy will put food on your table. And that's why the South Vietnamese farmers supported Ho Chi Minh. He gave them the best chance to put food on their table. And why JFK miscalculated the south vietnamese response to American involvement in that part of the world. We're going thru the Cold War so we think everyone hates the commies and if we give em some support they'll join the French-American forces against Ho Chi Minh.

But the common people were going thru an economic war with the French, so they didn't give 2 sh!ts about political idealogy.

So JFK miscalculated both the Domino Theory and the South Vietnamese response. Then LBJ escalated it with Rolling Thunder. And finally Nixon totally screwed the pooch.

someone in there McPhee was responsible as well.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Truman wouldn't let MacArthur use the bomb on the GD Chinese and North Korean communists!!!
Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 5:23 PM

yup, this commercial should be banned... it's a bad messsage to the youth of this great country, I tell ya!!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 19, 2010 5:57 PM

only you could make a connection between a commercial and dropping an atomic bomb in a mere 34 minutes.
you're all over the place now.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 19, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

someone in there McPhee was responsible as well.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 19, 2010 6:04 PM

see - now that is some funny sh*t!

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 19, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Off the hockey subject, but both my boys play Call of Duty games(Black Ops lately) all the time.

The boys and I just got back after spending a couple of hours at the range (I bought them a S&W AR22 for Christmas). I have to say my boys learned a LOT about firearms from playing that game. I assisted with the basic firearms function/safety but they were shooting better than most cops I've known! My 15 yr old was shooting my Glock 21 (.45acp), Glock 23 (.40) and HK USP .40 like a pro! The 10 yr old fired the Glock 21 once and the recoil was too much for him.

I believe police departments need to demand their officers put in at least 2 hours a day playing COD. It would reduce the "The suspect fired 6 shots at the officers. The officers responded firing 67 shot in defense. Thankfully nobody was injured and the suspect is now in custody..." news reports.

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Bidgame. you have said you do not like Europeon players. How about Zetterberg, Daysuk, Fedorov, Kuri, Backstrom, Lidstrom, Sedins, Alfredson and Chara.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Why no updates about tonights game? Who's in and who's out?

Posted by: adamkatzen | December 19, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Been away all day. Just check CI, no updates and the topic is the Korean War? Wow.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | December 19, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I know that it is a 7:30 start so the warmups haven"t started so it is still too early for the lineups but did Katie make it to Ottawa?

Posted by: NovaCath1 | December 19, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Korean war, Call of Duty, guns, communism and other assorted things. It's a slow Caps coverage day so we have nothing to talk about. Well other than rehashing fire BB now!

Posted by: FLDave | December 19, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow...I leave you guys for a couple hours and we turn this blog into a warped history debate.

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

One thing we can all agree on (I hope) is the Viet Cong had grit.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 19, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

@NovaCath1

I was thinking the same thing! Where is Katie?

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

@NovaCath1

I was thinking the same thing! Where is Katie?

Posted by: capscoach | December 19, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Was at the game, and I've never felt more embarrassed and ashamed to be wearing my Caps jersey than last night. The play of the game, in my opionion, was just 1:30 in when there was a scrum down in our goal. From where I was sitting, looked like Alzner was doing his best to impersonate Johnny E. Just then, Lucic went after Steckel who just stood there meekly.

The fans went nuts, chanting "Looch" and it was clear which team was the alpha dog. Boston clearly fed off the fans reaction, and then they just dominated. After the timeout, I knew Bradley would find McQuaid and they fought in my corner. Damn I like McQuaid, and he just pummeled Brads. Bruins scored again (and they could've had a few more, too) and I thought my vision of "CapRuins" was coming true.

The only saving grace of that period was w/about a minute left, Erskine went after Lucic hard and challenged him to fight at length. All the B's fans sitting next to me acknowledged #4's meanness, and they were disappointed that Lucic didn't oblige. (They remembered #4's tko/breaking Lucic's nose a couple yrs ago. They were hoping Thornton and Erskine would fight later, AND THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY MIFFED WHY DJK WASN'T IN THE LINEUP).

Being in the arena, I can tell you that the game was over after the first. Steckel's cowardice contributed to the B's surge and first 2 goals; Bradley getting pounded did nothing to stop the onslaught. Perhaps Lucic's backing-down from Erskine gave the team a boost and made them feel a little bigger than they know they are.

Despite being outplayed the 2nd and 3rd periods, I never got a sense that there was any doubt about the outcome of the game, on the ice or in the stands. Alzner's goal had the feeling of window-dressing and just making the last 5 minutes interesting. I guess it felt more like the Bruins lost interest and stopped playing than it did the Caps got pissed and dominated.

On a team w/Neil and Carkner, can we at least give DJK a chance tonight? If not, I hope #4 plays well and the streak continues.

Posted by: vermontcaps | December 19, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Vermont,

Good summary of last night from attending the game perspective. Funny, it seemed so much different on TV. Go figure.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 19, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

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