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Posted at 6:52 PM ET, 12/18/2010

Open thread: Capitals at Bruins

By Washington Post Sports Editors

The Washington Capitals (18-11-4) hope to avoid extending a seven-game skid tonight when they face the Boston Bruins (16-10-4), who are trying to end their own three-game slide.

Chat about the game in the comments below, or join the conversation on Twitter and see your tweets here by using #caps.

Faceoff: 7 p.m., TD Garden; TV: CSN+; Radio: 820, 1500 AM.

Click here for a live game summary.


By Washington Post Sports Editors  | December 18, 2010; 6:52 PM ET
Categories:  Boston Bruins  
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Comments

@Washington Post Sports Editors:
could you Please Drop Twitter - it is just a jumble of random tweets that have nothing to do with those that enjoy using CI.
the live chat was much better - but even if your not bringing that back - you can still get rid of 'the twitter'
thank you

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

at least we're consistent. just not the type of consistency i was hoping for.

Posted by: natresgroup | December 18, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Horrible play by Steckel before our d-men got worked over.

And just now, Ovechkin almost just got burned just on a failed backcheck.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Mathew is on my fantasy team when did u find this out

Posted by: rclow | December 18, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

lol... lookin' like L8 tonight...

you can't just switch to a defensive style overnight.

McPhee!!!!

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

this is ridiculous. oh well, unfortunately i've grown accustomed to us losing and playing well below their potential. that's a shame.

Posted by: natresgroup | December 18, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Wonderful... Bradley gets owned as usual...

McPhee!!!!

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Can we end the David Steckel experiment? The guy is god awful.

This team is not a Stanley Cup Contender, period.

Posted by: underpants2 | December 18, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

The one Caps shot was actually a dump in, so even though they statistically have a shot they basically still are without one.

Posted by: Aldred15 | December 18, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

@natresgroup

I feel so sad about the losing and playing below potential as well. Was last year the year we should have done it?

I still keep telling myself that they're too good to keep being so bad.

(Getting Sasha healthy will be very helpful in that regard. He has not been healthy since Nov. Just prior to the Blues game, he was held out of a practice due to an undisclosed injury but still played. Then the flu. And now what ever injury kept him out of the Ducks game, tonight's game, and probably tomorrow's game.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 18, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Gonna get to start up the "hey hey good bye" for BigBaby early tonight

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 18, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Barely over 10 min in and I've lost track of how many 3-on-2s and 2-on-1s we've given up.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Honestly....what does Knuble have to do to be taken off the top line? This is atrocious.

Posted by: Aldred15 | December 18, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Paging Ken Hitchcock! Please answer the red phone for an incoming call from Kettler.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | December 18, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Paging Ken Hitchcock! Please answer the red phone for an incoming call from Kettler.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | December 18, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

At what point does it not become obvious that the Caps need a new coach, honestly?

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 18, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

this is what they get for switching between styles. They should've just stuck with their defensive style. Add to that the fact besides Hendricks the rest of this team is content to let someone else be a leader on the ice.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Scott Hannan can't stay in the lineup. He gets beat to every puck and then screens our own goalie and just incase that wasn't enought to mess out the goalie he tries to make a stupid kick move and puts the puck in himself. He is not the only problem but he is now -9 as a Cap and has yet to win.

Posted by: icehammer97 | December 18, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

At what point does it not become obvious that the Caps need a new coach, honestly?

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2


since its the GM who is the real issue, and since he's the one who it needs to be made obvious to, that's a tough one.

Fire yourself McPhee. Have a little honor in your life.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Gabby must have compromising photos of GMGM or Ted L. It was a terrible organizational decision to not fire him in April...now it is just plain strange to the point of thoughts of blackmail.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | December 18, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

here's a quick list of dmen who the caps could've gotten who wouldve given us a bit more meat on the backline.

Ryan O'Byrne
Boychcuk
Seidenberg
Shane O'Brien

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

My goodness, Ovechkin... dump the frickin' puck in once in a while and try to establish a forecheck.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

@ice

I think you missed the memo on the defense being complete or something.

Hannan's prolly wishin he never ended up here. He's not a shutdown dman, which is what I said when the trade went down. All he is generally anymore is a decent defensive player who plays with a little bit of an edge. He's not a big hitter, but he'll use his stick and elbows to play a little tenaciously. He's been even less than that so far.

Its obvious that the same pro scouts who had high hopes for Joe Corvo were the ones who also overestimated Hannan. I don't mind Hannan but he's far from the answer on D.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Like I've said in the past, Ovechkin needs a coach who isn't so player friendly who can break down and rebuild his game. He just plays an incredibly low IQ brand of hockey. There's just too much high-risk/low-reward decision-making and incredibly weak defensive awareness.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

This is barely an NHL lineup. It literally looks like the Bruins have one more player on the ice at all times.

Posted by: underpants2 | December 18, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

My prediction of what will happen during the intermission in the locker room: some bird calls, a completely unnecessary F bomb-laced tirade, and no substantive course corrections that will allow me an even larger a$$-kicking.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | December 18, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

this looks more like last sunday...

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

@those talking about needing a new coach.

I am not saying we do or don't need a new coach, but a new coach won't make our D faster so they don't get beat to pucks, a new coach isn't going to get Ovechkin to not whiff or miss on every shot. No new coach is going to get the goalies to have a save % over 89 like both have been below during the streak. A new coach can change some things but a lot of what is wrong is not something a new coach will fix. Also Hannan now -10 and counting.

Posted by: icehammer97 | December 18, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

umm..were the Caps on a PK there? Sure looked like it.

gotta say, no one deserves this fate more than the smug trio of Ted, GM, and BB.

They had it coming. Too bad we got dragnetted into this mess.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

At what point does it not become obvious that the Caps need a new coach, honestly? The B's are just making the Caps look silly, they are clogging the Caps crease. Dump BigBaby!

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 18, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

My prediction of what will happen during the intermission in the locker room: some bird calls, a completely unnecessary F bomb-laced tirade, and no substantive course corrections that will allow me an even larger whipping.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | December 18, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Shellacking in progress... this is embarrassing how badly we're getting outworked and outexecuted.

Leonsis needs to get involved ASAP...

I don't know who's available but find any new GM, even if it's only for the interim.

This is a poorly constructed and poorly coached hockey team.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey how are the Caps doing?

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | December 18, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

W T H was Tom Poti doing on that play? Please get him away from Erskine, Johnny deserves a better defensive partner.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Once again...I need another support of this failed BB coached hockey team to tell me "it's gonna be okay...they are in a bad stretch and will be fine come the playoffs" speach! And oh yeah don't forget to tell me how the Caps have ran into "HOT GOALIE"!

This team is DONE!

HEY CAPS...go join the Redskins on the golf course...cause that's where you belong!

Posted by: ekbinion68 | December 18, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

That was nearly the gazillionth oddman rush of the period for the Bs.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Hub hangs 10 on the Caps tonight...it might take that kind of shellacking for the organization to get out of denial mode.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | December 18, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Poti should be put to sleep. For all of our sakes. He's incompetent on the ice in most defensive situations.

Also not too happy with Beagle, he's playing very timidly along the boards. His AHL grit isnt' transferring to the NHL so far.

there's no fight in this team. They look like they wanna get back on that plane. They're as mentally weak as their coach and GM.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Its so funny to hear you brain dead so called fans talking about your team asking for a new coach LOL do u not remember what i have been telling u ppl for 2 yrs now....and remember the coach is only one thing you lack

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | December 18, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Let's see... two Washington defenders colliding into each other. Backstrom's behind-the-back giveaway...

Surely these things are all Bruce's fault! Not the players', no way.

Posted by: sabredc | December 18, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Its so funny to hear you brain dead so called fans talking about your team asking for a new coach LOL do u not remember what i have been telling u ppl for 2 yrs now....and remember the coach is only one thing you lack

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | December 18, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I only want BB gone if he takes McPhee with him. We got embarrassed in the playoffs, and management shut their eyes.

Ov went from being a great hockey player to a terrible hockey player.

Posted by: underpants2 | December 18, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I am I the only person who wonders what the commercials that Bruce Boudreau turns down must look like? Does the man have any standards? Any line that he will not cross?

Posted by: nomarjax01 | December 18, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

might take that kind of shellacking for the organization to get out of denial mode.

Posted by: nomarjax01

unless Ted fires GM, this org will continue to be in denial mode EVEN IF THEY FIRE BB.
BB is the least of this org's issues right now. The pipeline doesn't look that great either.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

@tigger - wimp

I just read your post. You're a weenie !!!

So, exactly who do you think started those "Fire Hanlon" chants at the Phone Booth. About 50 of us "meaningless trolls" started that. You could hear it over the
TV and radio. It forced Ted and GMGM to act, because we started it during three consecutive home games.

Hanlon had lost the players and the "the folks that pay the salaries" (the meaningless trolls.)

Eventually we'll start on BB if this keeps up. Don't tell us that we have no power.

Who do you think was sitting in those cold seats in the middle of December on a Monday night when the Coyotes came to town. The meaningless trolls kept the franchise alive, while GMGM was fielding embarrassing "rebuild teams"

Go back to Japers ! Learn some history on the club and GMGM.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 18, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

underpants2 WHEN was ov ever a great hockey player??????Did i miss something.

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | December 18, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1. Poti stays until Hannan gets put to sleep first. Poti has been bad but Hannan is the worst player on this team.

Posted by: icehammer97 | December 18, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

@ SabreDC: Of course it is the players' fault along with the coaches and the GM...unfortunately, however, you can't get rid of an entire team. You can get rid of a coach who is being completely ignored by a group of players. Impossible? Dan Bylsma begs to differ.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | December 18, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

They are starting to remind me of the original Caps back in the 70's - very little speed, no crisp passing, not much talent anywhere. Who are these guys? Please bring back the team that was entertaining, could score, dominated in the regular season, and lost in the 7th game of an early playoff series.

Posted by: zmega | December 18, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

well, instead of wasting more time on this so-called hockey game, time for this birdie to go bye bye and enjoy a cold beverage somewhere. I'm sure TMAC will spotlight every part of this game going forward and I look fwd to reading it!

One more loss, one more brick in the wall, one more nail in the coffin!

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

underpants2 WHEN was ov ever a great hockey player??????Did i miss something.

Posted by: StanleyCup1907

Obviously you did d!psh!t.

Posted by: underpants2 | December 18, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe this, I really can't. Two full days off with presumably some tough practices and they look possibly worse than in NY. Just like a fight can change the momentum in a game, I'm starting to believe a coaching change might change the momentum of a season. What can BB possibly say or do that will have an effect on this team?

Posted by: mjw4m | December 18, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

@nomarjax01, sure, but if the players don't listen to Bruce, what makes you think they'll magically listen to the next coach?

Posted by: sabredc | December 18, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I think people are also overlooking how much less of a scoring threat this team is now(especially when Semin is out) compared to last year.

Yes, when everyone is healthy Flash on the 3rd line wing was not necessary.

But now with Flash being traded and Semin out the Caps 2nd line consists of Laich/MJ/AGordon. Does anyone actually feel they have much of a chance to score a goal while out there? No. So the Caps are a one line scoring team right now. Those are much easier to keep in check than deeper teams.

No one in the NHL would take a Laich/MJ/AGordon line over the Bruins 2nd line or most other 2nd lines in the NHL this season.

With Semin out the Caps have no scoring depth whatsoever. That is even more magnified with Flash being gone. Maybe keeping Flash for scoring depth would've been a better idea than trading him for Hannan.

The 2nd line needs some skill on it. Hopefully Semin can come back tomorrow because until he comes back the Caps are a one-line team.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

What happened to this team? They can't get a scoring chance to save their life.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 18, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Here's the worst part regarding Ovechkin...

His contract will increasingly become an anchor on this team as his athleticism declines with age.

Most great players become smarter and more complete and learn to think the game better and better as they get older and gain experience and that helps counter the drop in athleticism.

As long as 8 is given free reigns to play his out of control, high risk, no accountability type of one-way hockey, he is not going to be developing the right habits and learning to play a smarter more complete game.

And every passing game, week and season is lost development time.

Get rid of McPhee and bring in a more competent GM that can better evaluate personnel and coaching.

I don't know who is out there but there has to be somebody better than McPhee. He's completely wasting all these years of rebuilding.


Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

here we go again.........package Semin Fehr and Steckel for a top center....resign #53

Posted by: wendel2 | December 18, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey underpanties....Does ov still preform his hot stick dance??? LOL

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | December 18, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

@ nomarjax.

Nope and nope.

WTF..........stick a needle in my eye.

Posted by: capper3 | December 18, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

This is appalling. Caps keep playing like this, they're gonna get BB fired, when the fault lies with GMGM. Anyone think we DON'T need a vet goaltender anymore? Anyone?

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 18, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Yo, craps fans, humbled yet? Your team has got to be the most embarrassing division leaders in quite a while.

Posted by: slurpeesarecool | December 18, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I definitely think the trade was a bad idea. Hannan really doesn't add much to our D. Seems like a nice guy and all, but he really sucks.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 18, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

it's funny to listen to locker take a dump all over the team, even joe b. is finding it hard to stay positive.

i spent the whole first period watching missed defensive assignments,players falling down when barely touched, lack of any urgency and very suspect goaltending.

i feel bad for hendricks and brads who fight to try to pump the team and there's no response.

we feel sorry for ourselves, that first goal deflated them and they've phoned it in ever since.

and stecks just blows, i'm sorry i'd rather lose some faceoffs and have a player that can actually do something out there.

oh yeah, i'm a little miffed so i'm not thinking clearly.

Posted by: natresgroup | December 18, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how much more GMGM needs to see but for me I've seen enough. BB has lost this team 1,000%!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | December 18, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

And don't give that hockey town bullshit. I left this sorry ass fanbase because it precisely WASN'T a hockey town. Now, I'm cheering for Halpern again, and btw, he loves it up there in Montreal.

Posted by: slurpeesarecool | December 18, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Of course it is the players' fault along with the coaches and the GM...unfortunately, however, you can't get rid of an entire team. You can get rid of a coach who is being completely ignored by a group of players. Impossible? Dan Bylsma begs to differ.

Posted by: nomarjax01 |

I agree, and if this play continues through this weekend a change in coaching may be the only option.

The 2nd part of that question is, who would you replace BB with? Because you have to make sure they will be able to mesh with the current players. There may be a good coach out there for that, I'm just not sure who it is.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Dale Hunter, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: stwasm | December 18, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Yo, craps fans, humbled yet? Your team has got to be the most embarrassing division leaders in quite a while.

Posted by: slurpeesarecool

Way to point the obvious, Isaac Newton. Doooooooshbag

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 18, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey underpanties....Does ov still preform his hot stick dance??? LOL

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | December 18, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

And don't give that hockey town bullshit. I left this sorry ass fanbase because it precisely WASN'T a hockey town. Now, I'm cheering for Halpern again, and btw, he loves it up there in Montreal.

Posted by: slurpeesarecool

Who gives a fk

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 18, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Yes! We're gonna win the Cup!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | December 18, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Nice save by Neuvy and we score on the other end. Let's see if we actually use that and build off it.

Posted by: icehammer97 | December 18, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

what's it called when we take that little black round rubber thingy and flick it with those stick thingys and it goes over that little red line that's in front of a net like thingy.

what's that called again? we need to do more of that, whatever that is.

Posted by: natresgroup | December 18, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

So lucky to score there after that horrible defensive breakdown and ensuing breakaway.

Boston is breaking out of their own end and through the neutral zone with tremendous ease.

Whatever pressure we're trying to apply in those 2 zones is completely ineffective and it's been resulting in oddman rushes all game.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

well, instead of wasting more time on this so-called hockey game, time for this birdie to go bye bye and enjoy a cold beverage somewhere. I'm sure TMAC will spotlight every part of this game going forward and I look fwd to reading it!

One more loss, one more brick in the wall, one more nail in the coffin!

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

well, instead of wasting more time on this so-called hockey game, time for this birdie to go bye bye and enjoy a cold beverage somewhere. I'm sure TMAC will spotlight every part of this game going forward and I look fwd to reading it!

One more loss, one more brick in the wall, one more nail in the coffin!

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 18, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable... another goldens scoring chance for Boston... they could easily have 5 or 6 goals.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse


Here we go again...#8


Posted by: mortified469 | December 18, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Yes! We're gonna win the Cup!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | December 18, 2010 8:06 PM


I agree the caps are heading to the Stanley Cup finals!!! SECTION 5 Seats 1 to 25

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | December 18, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

And don't give that hockey town bullshit. I left this sorry ass fanbase because it precisely WASN'T a hockey town.

Posted by: slurpeesarecool

Probably the most fuktarded thing i ever read

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 18, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

@natresgroup. I think it is called a goal. That is what they call it when the other teams do it to us.

Posted by: icehammer97 | December 18, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin
Backstrom
Semin
Green
Laich

On and on... biggest bunch of "talented" losers I've ever seen in 25+ years of watching the NHL.

These bums need to take turns getting hit in the face with the puck a few times to have any chance of waking them up, cause bag skates won't.

They're worse than the bottom feeders of the league, at least they are playing to their level and capabilities.

Posted by: BigGameSid | December 18, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

And don't give that hockey town bullshit. I left this sorry ass fanbase because it precisely WASN'T a hockey town.

Posted by: slurpeesarecool

Probably the most fuktarded thing i ever read

Posted by: LloydChristmas | December 18, 2010 8:09 PM

Yeah, still believing the Cup guarantees?

Posted by: slurpeesarecool | December 18, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

At least 8 backchecked hard but he took about a second too long to recognize that Boston was threatening to create a 2-on-1.

That's a prime example of poor defensive awareness and recognizing the situation.

Knuble explained it well the other day about the need for forwards to read plays more quickly and begin backpedaling to get into position.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Probably the most fuktarded thing i ever read
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I've seen plenty of kool aid posters froth forth worse.

Posted by: slurpeesarecool | December 18, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

sad when the top 2 available from Hershey are Beagle and Gordon...gmgm has let that team go to crap too

Posted by: wendel2 | December 18, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

so they've had 30+ games to figure out their defensive agenda and this is the sht that they come up with still... what a disgrace.

I don't know how you Caps fans can put up with this fake az crap that's being fed to you by the fools in management.

Posted by: BigGameSid | December 18, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

We're playing with more energy but we're still having breakdown after breakdown.

Playing hard is great.

Playing hard and smart is far better.

We weren't doing either early so I guess it's something...

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

No surprise, the grinders earned that goal for the Caps. Where are those stars of theirs?

Posted by: slurpeesarecool | December 18, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

The Caps desperately need Semin back and healthy. There is a void of skill in the forwards right now. Ovie and Backstrom are probably the only two forwards on the ice who are considered skilled forwards(MJ will be but is still raw).

Unfortunately Fehr did not improve upon last year to get to that level and may have dropped. Flash was highly skilled but is no longer here, and Semin is clearly highly skilled but is out.

You need more than 2 skilled forwards on the team. You just don't create enough scoring chances and the opposing team is not threatened by a rush coming their way(except when Ovie and Backstrom are on the ice)

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

A team that wins the Calder Cup has gone to crap? (AHL MVP Keith Aucoin might be a good callup, but he's trying to get over an injury to a knee nerve.)

Posted by: OakdenWolf | December 18, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Nobody is threatened by 8 these days. He's beyond easy to defend. So cross him off your list of skilled forwards, at least for the time being.

Fleischmann is not at all what this team needs. I don't care if he puts up 5 consecutive hat tricks.

Every team can use more skill but what this team needs is the opposite of soft, unphysical forwards like Flash.

Skilled or unskilled, this team needs more mental and physical toughness up front and on defense.

More importantly, this team needs a more competent GM to reevaluate everything, from coaching to personnel.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Ugh....They're going to Bruce Boudreau fired......

Posted by: bassguy654 | December 18, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I am just speechless sort of. I can not even get upset. I said I thought they would lose to Boston and The Sens. They will win maybe, maybe against The Devils. That is where this fabulous streak will end.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

@slurpiesarecool
@biggamesyd

Don't swear on our site. It is a place for classy folks. Go to the Pens site to swear. They're all out of work up there. So, They're in an even worse mood than us.
"City of empty pockets!!!!!"

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 18, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Atlanta will be first in the division and Tampa most likely will tie tonight. Well done.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

It is obvious every coach in The NHL has figured out BB's system and every Cap player. It must be really easy to figure out.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Well, that was a dominant stretch of hockey. Too bad it came this late.

You can't play at this level all game but you can avoid the repeated breakdowns we had early so that the game doesn't get away from you and you aren't playing from way behind.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Remember Mcphee said he was happy with the team the way it was setup during the summer. How do like them apples?

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

It is obvious every coach in The NHL has figured out BB's system and every Cap player. It must be really easy to figure out.

Posted by: pkme

Maybe. But compare the talent of lines 2-4 that the Caps put on the ice tonight to the talent of lines 2-4 that Boston put on the ice. Boston's has more skill. The forwards put out by the Caps tonight are not that skilled.

@tmac2yao

Ovie is not playing well but he qualifies as a skilled forward.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

forget the you

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

That was a deserved goal.

But 8 got away with another one of those predictable spin moves at the blue line that turned into a rush the other way last time he did it.

And he had plenty of time to dump the puck in before that unnecessary spin move.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Obviously a great effort for most of that period but we were lucky not to be down 4 or 5-0 early in this game.

60 min...

You can't sustain this kind of effort for 60 min but even during relative lulls, you have to be sharp and avoid that many breakdowns.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

What is wrong with OVI? We should nickname him the Great cough up the puck or the Great fall down guy. Maybe he needs to drop about ten pounds because he was at his best when he was 220-225.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Probably The Caps best third period all year but still a big goose egg. The Streak continues. The Sens should pounce on the Caps tomorrow.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he should stop worrying about making/selling DVDs and giving stupid interviews about all the *derogatory word for girls* he's mackin over in Russia.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

The Caps would make Dean Evanson The head coach in an interim basis would be my guess. BB will be let go this evening or tomorrow if they lose again.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

...and focus that extra time and energy on learning to be a more complete hockey player.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Carry those last two peiods over to the next game caps!

I think those last two periods show that BB is starting to gain back the team...laugh all you want debbie downers, but you at least I recognize the good and not JUST the bad. Someone got the team to pull their heads out of their butts after the 1st.

@pkme

It is obvious every coach in The NHL has figured out BB's system and every Cap player. It must be really easy to figure out

you are like a broken record...and the only person in Boston who had the Caps figured out after the first was

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

The first period play was bleep. But a positive is that the Caps showed heart and fought hard to the end.

The 3rd period was probably the most dominant period a Caps team has played in a long time. The puck was in the Bruins zone the entire period. The Caps were getting a lot of pressure in front of the net. Unfortunately they only got one past Thomas.

I was also presently surprised by the play of Fehr in the 3rd period when he was placed on the Ovie/Backstrom line. Fehr was hitting and going to the net hard and Ovie and Backstrom were making plays and creating a lot of pressure.

I could see Fehr getting another shot at 1st line RW tomorrow. But he only played well for 15 minutes so he better play the same way tomorrow or he will be demoted.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

* traffic in front of the net
* finishing checks
* everybody getting invovled in the scrums
* s*cks that they lost - again
* thomas made the saves he needed to and neuvy wasn't as sharp
* missed semin and schultz

disappointed? yes. suicidal? no.

they'll get this turned around a be a better team because of it

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

That just may happen and sadly, the person who will probably break the news to him is the real source for this team's issues.

Firing Boudreau would be nothing more than a bandaid fix.

Leonsis getting off his stupid blog and canning the GM would be the way to address the source of the problem.

I don't know who would replace him and I'm sure there could be worse GMs than even McPhee but the problem is that we're just spinning our wheels with his incompetence. Any change is moving in the right direction, even if it first means taking a step backwards.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

We are LONG over due for a change. Management told us about getting a 2C and and strong D and still nothing. McPhee wake the hell up and be a responsible GM and make a coaching change now. It starts with you.

Posted by: hersheykid | December 18, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

You know part of the problem is the marketing strategy of the team. Like the Caps were a slam dunk for The Cup last year was the message. Now this year is stay angry, play angry or something like that. Or that The Caps is America's hockey hometown. Is Jerry Jones running the team. Difference is that Jones has won multiple champsionships and The Cowboys had a history of winning prior to Jones. What is The Caps history? Disappointment in the playoffs and never a win in the Stanley Cup. It is depressing really. I think Ted is a great owner but there clearly is more work to be done and this team is not a contender.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

The 3rd period was probably the most dominant period a Caps team has played in a long time. The puck was in the Bruins zone the entire period. The Caps were getting a lot of pressure in front of the net. Unfortunately they only got one past Thomas.
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NONE of that stuff matters unless they come out with a W. This is the National Hockey League, there is no moral victory at this level.

They played well exactly one week ago against the Avs then what happened on Sunday???

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

@pkme

you are a broken record! the only boston player that had the caps figured out after the 1st pd. was Thomas.

The first period flat out sucked...they let in a goal and then felt sorry for themselves, but I am proud of the last two periods...it was exciting hockey.

Sometimes things just suck and kicking a team that is already down does nothing! This is YOUR TEAM supposedly! Show some support!

Act like you actually like them for a change!

Belive it or not...there have been some good things to happen over this stretch. At least 3 of these games we outplayed the other team. We will win a game again people! Life sucks right now, but that doesn't mean you turn on your team.

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

It is clear to me. time to trade for vokoun. This game got lost because of bad goals in the first that neuiverth should have saved. This team plays better when we are not passive. It is so clear. Just give a first round pick.

Posted by: samb99 | December 18, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm not impressed by Fehr at all. Anybody who is a no show for games at a time should have extra energy to overperform for short stretches.

Do it for multiple games in a row, then that would be worthy of praise.

There are countless role players like him throughout the league that bring a lot higher compete level to the rink game in and game out.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

tmac2yao

i disagree when you are playing a top 6 player in the bottom six you are playing him out of position. drop knuble to the third line.

Posted by: samb99 | December 18, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

the only boston player that had the caps figured out after the 1st pd. was Thomas.

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 9:46 PM |

Maybe I'm missing your point here but that couldn't be further from the truth.

Pretty much every player on the ice and on through the coaches had the Caps figured out at the start of the game.

Boston was breaking out of their end and through the neutral zone with amazing ease and following through with an effective forecheck.

It looked to me like they knew exactly what to expect right off the bat and were more prepared and ready to execute what their coaches had mapped out.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

@sgm3

Caps needing Semin back and healthy. That's the understatement of the year! Semin hasn't been healthy since late November.

Just before the Blues game, he missed practice due to an undisclosed nagging injury -- the trainer wanted him to rest.

Then he was sick last week the day before the Avs game. And now the "lower body" injury which has kept him out since the Rangers game. I wonder if he got injured against the Rangers, or did it happen prior. There's a good reason the fellow had "disappeared" this month -- he was playing through injuries and illness both.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 18, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

@joek

you are a sad and bitter person. Enjoy the game...winning is of course the goal, but to not be able to see good in a loss or not enjoy a game only because of the outcome is very sad. No need for you to spread that kind of bitterness to others

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Capscoach

Hang on to those positive thoughts. It is naive but healthy. Regardless I do enjoy your posts.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

hey capscoach,

you are a LOSER, just like this team

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Boston was basically yawning at the pressure we were applying on our forecheck and in the neutral zone and it took us too long to make adjustments (ring a bell?).

Part of it was a lack of effort but it also looked like a matter of us getting beaten in the Xs and Os department. By the time we picked up our energy level and corrected whatever was causing all those breakdowns, it was too late.

Or maybe Boston just decided to sit back and that's why it looked like we made a good adjustment.

Also, we didn't play great throughout both of the last 2 periods.

IIRC, Boston was continuing what they did to us in the 1st into part of the 2nd period and had numerous golden scoring chances early to make it 4 or 5-0.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

and in case you haven't noticed, they didn't just lose one game.. they've lost EIGHT straight.

Two more losses and someone will definitely lose his job.

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

@tmac

after the first pd. Boston could not control us...granted it was our own fault for letting that first goal go to our head, but we dominated 40 min to their 20...we just can't put the darn puck in the net


anyone else think a major problem is we take too long to shoot? I mean we have the shot and then take too long and give the goalie time to recover and position himself.

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Joe,

Be nice.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

1. As a Cave dweller, even I can't complain about the effort in the 3rd.
2. This is why you should never say "we're a year or two away", like I read on this blog after the playoffs a year or two ago. You have to take advantage when you can.
3. I know that good young players are a wonderful thing to have, but a team a couple years back with Federov, Koslov, Cooke, etc seems more appealing than a team with Johansson, A. Gordon, Beagle, etc. Sometimes experience and veteran leadership means something.
4. However, I expect a win tomorrow. Go Caps!

Posted by: kcbrichmond | December 18, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

hey capscoach,

you are a LOSER, just like this team

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 9:53 PM

that's just uncalled for
are you off of your meds again?
get a grip on yourself

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

@joek

and you are aparently stuck in the 5th grade...hope you find hapiness in your teams one day.

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe a top 6 in the AHL but it's looking more and more like he has no true fit at this level.

I understand that he had that amazing goa; per minute of ice time thing going last season but until he can establish his play on a consistent level from game to game and season to season, regardless of what line he plays on, he hasn't fulfilled expectations.

There are plenty of supposedly "skilled forwards" who are forced to play out of position at this level and are able to still be effective players.

And especially when you play on the Caps where Boudreau seems to typically want offense out of his 3rd line, he's had every opportunity to fully establish his game at this level.

I understand the injury history but that's part of it. If he's healthy, it's time to start performing consistently. And even when he's not scoring, he needs to be playing with consistent energy, esp. when he's on a lower line getting less ice time.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Just watched Don Cherry take a shot a Ted Leonsis on Hockey Night in Canada - seems to assert that Ted will eventually lose his cool and fire BB... they do not understand Caps hockey up there - one bad decision to sign Jagr almost 10 years ago and Ted cant shake the brand of a meddling owner that doesnt know the sport in the minds of those Canadian hockey reporters. They give him no credit for making hard decisions in 2003-04 cleaning house to allow this talented team to develop. If anything I think Ted empowers his hockey people by supporting their decisions...I just hope someone in the DC media tells it the real way for the record - we dont have a bully pulpit in DC like Toronto has with Cherry or Boston has with Milbury to spew unfounded garbage opinion over the airwaves.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | December 18, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

and in case you haven't noticed ATL just thrashed NJ 7-1 tonight and they're now the leader of SE.

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Capscoach,

I am not turning on the team. I call it the way I see it. And they really stink as a team right now. We can sugar coat things and say the glass is half full or we can just say the glass is empty.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

hey capscoach,

if you can't handle the heat, get the heck outta the kitchen... and don't start

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

and in case you haven't noticed ATL just thrashed NJ 7-1 tonight and they're now the leader of SE.

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:00 PM

so what - thought you said reg season doesn't matter. is it april already? have they dropped to 9th in the conf?
meds joek, meds

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, BigBaby has to go, 3 years, thanks, you are not a good playoff coach and now a mediocre regular season benchboss, cya

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | December 18, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

"NONE of that stuff matters unless they come out with a W. This is the National Hockey League, there is no moral victory at this level."

@joek443

I'm confused. I am sure I've seen you post multiple times about how poor the Caps defensive play was even though they won the games. That the way you play was more important than the win.

The overall play in the 2nd and 3rd period(especially the 3rd period) was a positive. There is no questioning that. That doesn't mean there weren't negatives(the 1st period play was horrible and Neuvy was poor). But it isn't always all or none.

Almost no game is perfect and almost no game is 100% horrible. There are always some negatives to look at in wins and some positives to look at in losses. Just because you refuse to acknowledge any of the positives doesn't mean they don't exist.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

and in case you haven't noticed ATL just thrashed NJ 7-1 tonight and they're now the leader of SE.

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

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Throw away period 1 tonight and we would be happy...now what team shows up in Ottawa Sunday and what team will we get when they play the Devils Tuesday....

Personally I think the guys are coming out of it - but even when they were winning they rarely put together 60 minutes....oh and hmmmm no penalties tonight...

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | December 18, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

A few us were complimenting the new look Thrashers early in the season and I remember a lot of people laughing at them saying that they still sucked.

I don't see them as contenders this season but after watching them play a couple times, I saw a potential playoff team. They play far better hockey now than they ever did with Kovalchuk.

Maybe we should trade 8 before his athleticism declines any further and turn that into 2 or 3 good players and/or draft picks.

Oh, and there goes that "stranglehold on the division" that somebody was bragging about a few weeks ago...

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

i think this team with a vokoun looks very different. I wish they would make that trade and get over with it.

Posted by: samb99 | December 18, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

@joek

who cares about the SE! Let's just focus on getting this team to play better hockey! Of course things suck right now, but my word....you take the negativity to a ridiculous level.

@pkme

sorry to freak...it was a hard game to lose and I am always over emotional (and defeive) right after a loss...the glass is pretty low at this point I agree...and if BB is fired I will not have a problem with it...unless things get worse.

But I really think that if we stick this out and the Caps come out of it together, it could do AMAZING things for this team! But again I could be full of it.

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

are you people on DRUGS?

they didn't just lose one single game, they have lost EIGHT straight???

so what they played great two periods tonight, they played very well against the Avs last Saturday night also?

Anyone even remember what happend last Sunday against the Rangers????????????????????????

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

This'll surely infuriate some of you but it's looking more and more like Ovechkin, just like Kovalchuk, is an overrated one-dimensional player that you don't build your franchise around.

That much money tied into a winger who doesn't play both ends of the rink, and who doesn't think the game well and isn't showing much signs of growth, may be just as much of an issue as anything else in the long run.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

joke:
come off of the ledge and please stay away from loaded firearms.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Maybe OVI will try to put on another ten pounds. He looks like an average player these days. Sometimes worse than average. Not that I would trade OVI but I would trade him even up with Crosby.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

This is a bad streak of losing - well specifically NOT SCORING - getting behind and frustrated and making dire mistakes...Does anyone remember how bad Boston was last year at this time?....they scored even less - winless in like 11 straight home games in the Garden (won the W. Classic though) and somehow by April they were a better team... for the Caps its still only 31 losses in regulation & playoffs since the 2009-10 season started - so something with this system works well when its executed.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | December 18, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Some of you may need to rewatch that 2nd period... we didn't dominate or play great for 2 full periods...

It was largely the 3rd period and maybe just a small portion of the 2nd.

Right before Bradley scored, Seguin walked through our D on a breakaway and I remember at least a few other oddman rushes and golden scoring chances right in front of Neuvirth before and after the Sequin breakaway.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

hey capscoach,

if you can't handle the heat, get the heck outta the kitchen... and don't start

Posted by: joek443

I'm sorry, but in what way could I "not handle it?" You are the one behaving like BigGameSid.

And I can't marry you to make this relationship work...I alread made peace with cstanton through marriage!

Anyone seen my dear husband lately? Or is he to depressed and angry to come chat?

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

I understand the injury history but that's part of it. If he's healthy, it's time to start performing consistently. And even when he's not scoring, he needs to be playing with consistent energy, esp. when he's on a lower line getting less ice time.

Posted by: tmac2yao

I agree with your point on Fehr. I only pointed out that he played a very good in the 3rd period when on Ovie's and Backstrom's line. He got to the net, hit and did a lot of the little things. His better speed than Knuble seemed to be advantageous to play with Ovie and Backstrom.

I was only saying he deserves to be given a shot at 1st line RW next game(especially with Semin out) to see if he can play the same sort of game. If he doesn't(and he has never proven that he can play that way consistently) then he gets demoted again.

I'm just saying he deserves a chance to show he can continue to play that way. I have my doubts if he will actually be able to do it.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

ok so ovi is not scoring so backstrom is not green is not knuble is not etc... so are they all overated now and one dimensional

Posted by: samb99 | December 18, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

some of you people are in denial... they've lost EIGHT straight, that's 10 percent of the season.

that's the same as a baseball team losing 16 straight games... think any manager would survive that kinda losing streak????

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Lets all stop ragging on each other and have a healthy spirted debate without degrading each other. Just a thought. I think BB is a decent coach but I think it is now time for a change.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

The Bruins were a more fundamentally sound hockey team learning to do the right things, even during their struggles.

They lacked talent up front but that is not really the case anymore as their GM made some great decisions that are looking pretty good now.

Their roster and their style of play looks much more suited to do damage in the postseason, regardless of the past.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 18, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

some of you people are in denial... they've lost EIGHT straight, that's 10 percent of the season.

that's the same as a baseball team losing 16 straight games... think any manager would survive that kinda losing streak????

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:16 PM

you're a lost cause
go ahead dance around on the ledge or play with a loaded gun
it would seem you have nothing to look forward to in life

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if we get a coach that knows another word besides F-bomb.... wonder what that translates into Russian as? Maybe all we have is a language barrier problem. :-)

Posted by: FishAndCaps | December 18, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Lets all stop ragging on each other and have a healthy spirted debate without degrading each other. Just a thought. I think BB is a decent coach but I think it is now time for a change.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I agree. Let Woods finish out the season and find out where to go from there. Obviously if Woods turns things around and gets them deep in the playoffs then you keep him. Otherwise you look elsewhere.

Posted by: Dirtbag359 | December 18, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Green, Backie, and Ovie need to start producing...the others will follow...also Semin when he comes back

Hope he meets the team in Ottowa.

Gotta go people...keep some faith, this is our team no matter what, so try to enjoy them

Posted by: capscoach | December 18, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

POSTGAME THOUGHTS:
26 shots on goal in the third. Newsflash Caps - gotta play 60 minutes rather than sleepwalk the first 15 minutes. I'm not even going to get into the individual players that were not great down the stretch. Bottomline at this moment: This isn't even a playoff team right now. I'm not saying overall - just not right now.

Nice to see a camera shot of McPhee up high - can only wonder what's going through his head. We've been so spoiled with all the winning and now finally a major losing streak occurs. I've yelled, cussed, pounded walls but patience will prevail and here's to hope this team continues to grow and come together through this and is better team going forward.

Hopefully management will still make upgrades where they can make them going down the road because they are needed. I don't blame many of you for being pissed. If you've lost faith then leave this board and don't follow the hockey team going forward. I've been a fan for nearly 20 years now and I've seen ups and downs with this team and this is only going to get interesting going forward to see where this team goes from here.

For now - go have a drink, pound your wall, gnash your teeth, yell - whatever helps you get the frustration out. Then either support this team going forward or go away.

C'mon Caps - right back at it tomorrow in Ottawa. Let's end this streak.

ICE BREAKERS GOAL SHAKERS.

Posted by: Jonathan6 | December 18, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

some of you people are in denial... they've lost EIGHT straight, that's 10 percent of the season.

that's the same as a baseball team losing 16 straight games... think any manager would survive that kinda losing streak????

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

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They still got points in OT/shootout losses that they dont get in baseball....16 teams make playoffs in hockey - can't compare....

If they go the next 40 games and only lose 10 games (regulation) they still get 100+ points and probably good enough for a decent seed..... They have 12 losses all year - avg of 4 per month actually - 24 losses last season was good enough to win divisions

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | December 18, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

that's the same as a baseball team losing 16 straight games... think any manager would survive that kinda losing streak????

Posted by: joek443

It is also about equal to losing 1.5 games in a row in an NFL season. Coaches in the NFL do survive 2 game losing streaks which would be equal to a 10 games losing streak in the NHL. So yes, other sports are fine with a 10% losing streak. Not desired, but not a death sentence.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

@joek

Man, don't call capscoach names. Let her speak her piece.

Where was that 3rd period effort after we were down 2-0 ?

If we had crashed the net like that against the Habs, we would have dumped them in 5.

What the Heck is up with these goof balls ?????????????????????????

"Wack job" players ? Bad coaching ? or both ?

How can you play like that in the third and have an 8 game lose run going. This is nuts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 18, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

hey Kirk, why don't you save your psycho-babbble for someone who gives a rats a$$??

you ever watch the people who show up for Raiders games?? do they look normal or mentally stable to you?

this is just arguing over sports, NOT life or death... they're NOT the same things.

how we act on here don't tell you anyting about what's going on in real life... you're the biggest fool on here if you think you can tell anything by the way some of us act on the friggin' internet.

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Before I thought it would be a good idea to bring someone else but that could be a disaster. Maybe bring in a Dineen and Hunter as assistant coaches assuming they would take that. An assistant coach in the NHL has to be higher than a Head Coach of Portland, right? Hunter is the owner of the London Knights and he may have no interest in an NHL position. I heard him interviewed awhile ago talking about developing young players. Woods or Evanson and maybe bring in two new assistants who can instill some discipline. Although many on here do not seem to be a fan of Woods but whatever.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

VOKOUN, VOKOUN, VOKOUN! He could take this team to new and exciting places... Just saying, he's a free agent who hates his life...

Posted by: BaltimoreBerserk | December 18, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

The Bruins were a more fundamentally sound hockey team learning to do the right things, even during their struggles.

They lacked talent up front but that is not really the case anymore as their GM made some great decisions that are looking pretty good now.

Their roster and their style of play looks much more suited to do damage in the postseason, regardless of the past.

Posted by: tmac2yao

@tmac2yao

If the Caps won tonight in the exact way Boston won(lets pretend they just switched uniforms), wouldn't you be upset about how the Caps didn't compete in the 3rd and use that as an example of how they won't win in the playoffs?

The Bruins 2nd goal was a bad luck goal. That was a seeing eye shot from the corner of the blue line with a few deflections. The Caps could have used one of those.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

If they go the next 40 games and only lose 10 games (regulation) they still get 100+ points and probably good enough for a decent seed..... They have 12 losses all year - avg of 4 per month actually - 24 losses last season was good enough to win divisions
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LMAO boy are you in denial... now you think they can just flip a switch and go on a long winning streak now huh?

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

joek443:
you've completely lost it - haven't you?

you seem to care a lot for someone who doesn't gives a rats a$$??

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Sooooo....how many people miss Jose Three-or-More? I mean we are talking about adding a veteran netminder right?

Posted by: Dirtbag359 | December 18, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

The Bruins 2nd goal was a bad luck goal. That was a seeing eye shot from the corner of the blue line with a few deflections. The Caps could have used one of those.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 10:33 PM

they could have used 2 - alzners was one of those

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

BaltimoreBerserk

???? not sure what that means.. your posting is somewhat confusing

Posted by: samb99 | December 18, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

aAso everyone talks about trading Fehr but what the heck do you get for him. He is injury prone, has not lived up to expectations and can not play defense, special teams. The value is trading some of those young prospects and not the ones in Hershey. Whatever trade you do always leaves a hole somewhere else. One thing we can say about David Poile is he knew how to make valuable trades. Not always the best drafter.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

i think this team with a vokoun looks very different. I wish they would make that trade and get over with it.

Posted by: samb99 | December 18, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

this losing streak will end eventually. It has to. Even the Islanders win one every once in a while.

Still love my Caps!

Posted by: squirrelly07 | December 18, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

they could have used 2 - alzners was one of those

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

I didn't consider Alzner's to be on the same level because it was taken from the center of the ice and a few steps inside the blue line. So it was considerably closer and at a better angle. The area of the shot was a much higher percentage than the area of where Ference shot for Boston's 2nd goal. But those are the bounces and they happen.

The Bruins announces mentioned multiple times throughout the game that the Bruins were receiving many fortunate bounces(off of officials and stuff). They were mentioning it because they were stating how Boston needed to score another goal because the bounces would like start to turn the other way.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I didn't consider Alzner's to be on the same level because it was taken from the center of the ice and a few steps inside the blue line. So it was considerably closer and at a better angle. The area of the shot was a much higher percentage than the area of where Ference shot for Boston's 2nd goal. But those are the bounces and they happen.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 18, 2010 10:44 PM

fair enough - one it is then

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Bruce is the answer to a question no one is now asking. Unless the question is why failing in two postseason tries and then guiding a talented team to a nine game losing streak is perfectly reasonable.

Posted by: Almazar80 | December 18, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Your Caps are now a well deserved 7th seed in the East!!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Unless the question is why failing in two postseason tries and then guiding a talented team to a nine game losing streak is perfectly reasonable.

Posted by: Almazar80 | December 18, 2010 10:49 PM

at least wait until they actually lose tomorrow before you saddle them with a nine game losing streak

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Your Caps are now a well deserved 7th seed in the East!!!

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 10:56 PM

can i deduce then - that the caps are not your team?
if you let me know who your team is – i can find that teams link for you to post your rants & ravings

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | December 18, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Except for 8, 19 & 28, any forward who doesn't bring it every game like 10 & 26, he's simply worthless and should be traded to any team who wants them.

Posted by: joek443 | December 18, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

I was assuming that tomorrow will be another loss for this outmatched and undercoached team. Can you believe that "outmatched" actually applies to the Caps? That's what the Caps are, a team without the will to win coached by a guy who doesn't know how to react when people finally figure out his only plan.

Posted by: Almazar80 | December 18, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Another loss, could we please fire BB (and GMGM).

Posted by: chriscaps | December 18, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Ten percent of the season lost since December 1. Really if you think about it that is impressive. Washington sports teams really do stink and have for a very long time. It is a shame. We all want to watch and observe greatness but somehow we get penalized because we love our team and they happen to be Washington teams.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Looking for samples? I received the sample quickly. Thanks to "123 Get Samples" for the samples. I can't wait to get another in the mail!

Posted by: joanwright19 | December 18, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Does OVI have gambling debts like Jagr?

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Joke.

Well at least they get NJD coming up that should be a guarantee win.

And then all the blind sheep will think all is well again until another playoff collapse, if they even make the playoffs.

Posted by: BigGameSid | December 18, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal

Which team is the most frustrating in sports for it's fan base ??

Cubs

Clippers

Lions

Capitals

I think at this point, we're in with those three. Why couldn't they play like that from the open. End the streak. Save your coach !!

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 18, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

biggamesid

You must like the Caps secretly because it appears you watch every game and seem to know everything going on with The Caps.

Posted by: pkme | December 18, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Three down, one to go. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 18, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

That's 8.

I'm assuming 2 more is BB's job. God knows how many before it's GMGM's job, but Ted's ears better start perking up. He better start getting concerned too.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 19, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

"If the Caps won tonight in the exact way Boston won(lets pretend they just switched uniforms),"

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If if.

If Ifififiifififififififififiififif.

If the caps won at all you wouldn't need to excuse this crap over and over again. If the Caps won one game in ever, you wouldn't need to continually invent situations where it was OK over and over again.

The bottom line is that if management had built a hockey team and it was coached by a hockey coach with any sort of pride whatsoever, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

You have now been making excuses for the entire month of December, the time for excuses is over.

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 19, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

@VTDuffman

Firing a GM mid-season serves no purpose. Not many moves can be made mid-season except for a trade or two. The time to switch a GM is after a season ends(I'm not saying I'm for getting rid of GMGM just pointing out when it is best to switch GMs).

But firing BB is a possibility. It may just be that the players are sort of tuning him out now. Hockey is a sport where it seems rare that a coach stays with a team for a long period of time, even if the team is successful.

Think of the Devils of the 90's and early 2000's. They went through coaching changes constantly and it worked.

I'm not saying to fire BB, but if the stretch of losing continues much longer I think that the Caps may have to fire BB. There is really no other option to try to turn around a team mid-season(trading half the team is not a realistic option).

I think BB has until the Pittsburgh game. If things do not change by then, then I see GMGM making a change. There would be a few days off for Christmas and the Caps schedule after Christmas is a little light so there would be time for practice.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 19, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

If the caps won at all you wouldn't need to excuse this crap over and over again. If the Caps won one game in ever, you wouldn't need to continually invent situations where it was OK over and over again.

The bottom line is that if management had built a hockey team and it was coached by a hockey coach with any sort of pride whatsoever, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

You have now been making excuses for the entire month of December, the time for excuses is over.

Posted by: VTDuffman

Please tell me where in my statement that you quoted was I making an excuse? Oh wait, I wasn't. I was just pointing out that if the Caps won the way the Bruins won the same people would be complaining that they didn't win the right way. The statement was about the posters and how they view things. It had nothing to do with making excuses.

Practice your reading comprehension.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 19, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

"he statement was about the posters and how they view things. It had nothing to do with making excuses."

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So in the midst of an 8 game losing streak, your biggest gripe is about the damn other posters, and that's *not* making an excuse?

I mean, I realize that at this point I'm arguing with someone who actually admitted to everyone that selling jerseys was more important to them than winning championships, but come on....

You can say over and over again that your obsession with the fact that other posters aren't unicorns and rainbows enough for you isn't an excuse, but at the very least it's a deflection on where blame is really due. You can say it's not until you're blue in the face (Erm, finger) but it's transparent to everyone with a rational thought.

You're whole M.O. on this board is to make excuses for coaching and management. We get it, you don't think anyone from BB to GMGM is to blame for this. At this point, why are you still posting?

Posted by: VTDuffman | December 19, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

@biggamesyd

Pretty soon you'll be a two sport town. Las Vegas will end up with the Bucks. I guess if you can't follow an NBA club, you watch Caps games.

What are you going to do in the summer ?Post here with all your free time !!

I at least now the Lerners will build a World Series champion.

Do folks even play basketball in the Rust City ?

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 19, 2010 2:12 AM | Report abuse

This whole thing is disgraceful. When will people realize that the Caps are not built properly. I keep saying it over and over, the core of this team, the nucleus is centered around European Players and a bring everything you got style that only works in the regular season. When the playoffs begin, time and space is taken away. That's when the Ovechkins and Semins disappear. Ovechkin reminds me of another very good player named Lindros. Never won a Stanley Cup and was a great regular season performer and pretty physical, but did not have what it took to get over the top. The creator of this team is Mcphee and he should be accountable for not having a suitable second line center, some veteran defensive leadership that has won playoff games and a coach that understand how to win in huge games.

So when we get through the season and once again underachieve as we did last year, what excuse is the ownership and management going to present to the general public. Sure, Ted is happy sitting in his box and watching the sold out Verizon Center, but it can turn really quick if the W's are getting smaller and smaller

Posted by: diner99 | December 19, 2010 3:56 AM | Report abuse

I keep hearing this stuff about Canadian players versus Europeon players. Folks go and check the line up of The Red Wings of the last 20 years. In fact check their lineup when they beat the Pens. I count eight Canadian players. Last time I checked Fedwrov was Russian. Arguably one of the best two way players to ever don a hockey uniform. Have you folks heard of Henrik Zetterberg. Last time I checked he is not Canandian. Anytime i hear this arguement I always say look at The Red Wings. The Red Wings currently have the most diverse line up in the last twenty years. The Caps have count them outside of goaltending that are from Europe. Is it three guys?

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

How about Lidstrom? I just remembered he is Swedish. Stop the hating on Europeon players. I am going to get the line up for folks for the 2007-2008 line up so folks maybe more educated.

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Here is the breakdown of 07-08 Stanley Cup Redwings. Hope this clears up that crazy notion that a Europeon style team can not win the Cup. The best five players on The Red Wings were not Canadian. I am talking about stats from that year not over history of their careers. Although we can now say that Zetterberg and Datsuk are among the top five two way players in The NHL.

# Name
24 Chris Chelios
11 Dan Cleary
13 Pavel Datsyuk "A"
17 Dallas Drake

33 Kris Draper "A"
51 Valtteri Filppula
93 Johan Franzen
44 Mark Hartigan
39 Dominik Hasek
43 Darren Helm
96 Tomas Holmstrom
26 Jiri Hudler
55 Niklas Kronwall
22 Brett Lebda
5 Nicklas Lidstrom "C"
3 Andreas Lilja
18 Kirk Maltby
25 Darren McCarty
30 Chris Osgood
28 Brian Rafalski
37 Mikael Samuelsson
23 Brad Stuart
40 Henrik Zetterberg "A"

Posted by: pkme | December 19, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

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