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Boudreau: 'Shoot It Where They Ain't'

Here are some additional notes and quotes from this morning's practice at KCI:

Most of the discussion -- surprise, surprise -- centered on what the Caps need to do to beat Henrik Lundqvist, who has stopped 67 of the 70 shots he's faced.

King Henrik has been outstanding, no doubt, but even elite goaltenders can't stop what they can't see.

"We're trying as hard as we can to get to the front of the net," Coach Bruce Boudreau said after a very optional skate. "We've had 70 shots in two games to their [45]. We're doing what we can. But we've got to do better. Maybe we need 45 shots, I don't know."

"We have to find a way," he added. "They're a good hockey club, but they've allowed goals in the past, so we've got to find a way to [score on them] in the future."

In addition to being steered wide of the high-traffic areas by the Rangers' defense as well as having difficulty screening Lundqvist and getting in position to bang in rebounds (something they've struggled to do all year), the Caps are suddenly faced with another problem: getting their shots on net. The Rangers, led by Blair Betts, Marc Staal and Dan Girardi, have blocked a total of 50 through two games.

John Erskine said the Caps' defensemen need to do a better job of using head and body fakes to get the Rangers in the shooting lane to move. Eric Fehr said the forwards need to be a little less predictable and change the angle of their shots at the last moment.

Boudreau, though, was a little more blunt.

"Miss 'em, quite frankly," he said. "Shoot it where they ain't. They do a very good job of dropping back and are committed to blocking shots."

Other items of interest:

Don't Count on Clark
At least, that's what Boudreau said when asked if captain Chris Clark might make his return from wrist surgery during the first round. He's exactly the type of gritty player the Caps could use right now, but ...

"He's cleared, but he's still a week to 10 days away," Boudreau said.

Same Status for Schultz
Defenseman Jeff Schultz, who missed Game 2 with an undisclosed injury, skated lightly for about 20 minutes this morning. But Boudreau said he's still day-to-day.

Bruce on Brash
Donald Brashear has been available for both playoff games, but Boudreau said for a second straight day that he hasn't fit the team's game plan against New York.

"He's hungry to play, as I would expect everybody to be," Boudreau said. "But we have to put a lineup in that we think is best suited to win the game. Whether Brash is part of it or not, it might be the next series, that might be the games that he's better suited for. We'll see."

Bruce on Theodore
"When he goes in again, he's going to be fine," he said. "For the reason you said: He has rebounded. Sometimes, he's like players. You get in ruts and sometimes it's better to sit a game or two and watch, and that's refocuses you on what's at hand."

Bruce on Game 3
"It's pretty evident that we have to play better," he said. "We're all talking about playing pretty good. But we're down 2-0. So we can't be doing everything right. We have to find different ways. We'll figure it out before tomorrow's game, and hopefully, the players will listen to what we're talking about."

Bruce on Callahan, Officiating
"Just my opinion, after watching Scottie Upshall in the playoffs last year," Boudreau said. "Callahan did a pretty good imitation of Scottie Upshall."

Boudreau's response was to a question about Alexander Semin responding to a shove from Callahan in the third period. Semin was assessed a roughing penalty for pushing back.

As far as the officiating, Boudreau said, "Yeah, I am frustrated. [The Rangers] talk about the refereeing, then all of a sudden you don't get a power play for 40 minutes. The call they called on them was, you better make a call because it wasn't much of [an infraction]."

The Rangers were assessed their first penalty at 16:17 of the second period when Michal Roszival's hooking call on Ovechkin.

Attendance Check
Practice was optional, and a number of key players exercised that option, including Alex Ovechkin, Nicklas Backstrom, Viktor Kozlov, Sergei Fedorov and Mike Green, among others.

I'll check in again from MSG tomorrow morning.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  April 19, 2009; 1:34 PM ET
 
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Comments

I have no idea why the Caps think shooting crappy wristers (that 99% miss the net) from 12 feet outside the high slot is a good idea. Take the puck to the net, or lose this in 4. you guys decide.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I would think that Kozlov should have been the first one to arrive at the optional practice today and the last one to leave. He was terrible.

Posted by: caraveli | April 19, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Eric Fehr said the forwards need to be a little less predictable

Hmmn, I am glad at least one Cap agrees with me.

"Just my opinion, after watching Scottie Upshall in the playoffs last year," Boudreau said. "Callahan did a pretty good imitation of Scottie Upshall."

I guess everyone but me, knows the meaning of that. Those of us in the dark thank you for the explanation Tarik.

OK. Having dispensed with my alloted sarcasms of the day, here is my prediction:

The Caps will win the series on 7. The will win the next 3 games, lose the six and win the 7th at home.

The problem is not the lack of people around the net, the problem is opening space for the puck to go in, and that is not going to be low, it has to be high, OV missed the tying goal in the last game by an inch when he hit the crossbar, he finally got the right idea.

BB needs to put all the fire power in one line, that is 8-19-28.

Posted by: opita1 | April 19, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

@ Boudreau on Brash

"But we have to put a lineup in that we think is best suited to win the game. Whether Brash is part of it or not, it might be the next series, that might be the games that he's better suited for. We'll see."

......you better get this squared away quickly or there won't be a next series! Not thank I think Brash is the answer, but this always looking ahead thinking is biting them in the A**! We need to we focus on one game. Game 3 and that's it!

Let's GO CAPS!!

Posted by: jarresm | April 19, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

You can take a million shots from outside the slot on the rush, and it wouldn't matter.

It's either take a crappy blocked/wide shot on the rush from outside the slot or make a horrible telegraphed pass across the ice.

DRIVE THE PUCK TO THE NET.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

All these comments from the players and coach are not too reassuring to me. They sound scared to me at least. They also show a lobsided focus on one person-Henrik--which tells me how much he has gotten under their skin.

It's not that I am blaming them (Caps). It just shows how the Rags' goalie has created a skewed psychological situation, with his role elevated out of proportion and our elite players frustrated and on the defensive, focusing all their mental efforts on how to get around him. Hopefully, BB knows how to change the dynamics or we will be going into game #3 with the underdog mentality and already frustrated.

Posted by: caraveli | April 19, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

There is only one group of people who want Brash in the line-up more than the people contributing here... and that's the NY Rangers.

Honestly, the guy is big and mean looking. But he really doesn't scare anyone anymore. And he certainyl can't keep up.

We have to have a better answer than that.

And we also need a better answer than BB criticizing the refs and dismissing the Rags. While he's right in noting Brash isn't up to the task...Callahan imitating Upshall? Don't know about that, but I do know he was one of the best players on the ice yesterday, scoring the game winner and drawing a penalty in the 3rd.

Really, it seems like BB is more eworried about what Torts says than what his own team does.

I still think they can win this. I mean come on now -- the Rangers aren't an elite team. But the first step in beating them is to look in the mirror. They shouldn't see Lunqvist there.

Play better -- that's how you win.

Posted by: sinbin | April 19, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Thats fine, I'll be the only one who wants Brash in. Doesn't matter to me what others think. So far, the game plan without Brashear hasn't been too hot. And since he's been out with an injury, the team hasn't been all that great either. SO until we can analyze the difference by seeing him in, it remains an unknown.

Interesting that he often wears an A on his chest and yet people around here are dismissing him, as is his coach.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"And we also need a better answer than BB criticizing the refs and dismissing the Rags."

"I mean come on now -- the Rangers aren't an elite team. "

You've lost me.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Got to agree with RichmondPhil and Caraveli...Kozlov was brutal and Mike Greeen, who didn't look well on a camera interview also should have made the practice today....unless he's sick.

Erskine and Backstrom played super as did Varly.

Take the puck to the net and give the fourth line a bit more ice time and we can do it!

Go caps!!

Posted by: capper3 | April 19, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I think after losing 2 playoff games at home back-to-back, they should all be at practice to at least shoot the puck around.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why the whole team wasn't at practice. Hopefully reflecting and doing some soul searching. They will win Game 3.
I agree that Brash may need to be in there working the boards and creating some space in the middle. I know it seems like the Caps need more goal scorers in there after getting shut out but someone needs to help the scorers get into scoring positions.

I am curious how Philly will react today being down 2-0.

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

The Caps GM is a loser, he's mush.

Leonsis has managed to win by losing in a non hockey market, in the end it's all about one thing to Ted. Profit.

Ted & GM will never tell everyone that they're very happy with a first round exit, the season (regular) was a great success, financially.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

yeah phil, I don't think they need to run suicides, but no tape? no discussion? nada? Up 2, fine. Down 2 with history against you? I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be showing up, tired or not. Don't they have massage therapists on call? play me tape while you rub me down.

by the way, green didn't look good on camera because he obviously got little to no sleep the night before and then had to play at 1pm with no afternoon nap. 1pm was a bs time. The league shouldn't let NBC decide game times. all year long the games are at 7 or occasionally 3. It's not fair to change things in the playoffs. Why not make football players start 6 hours earlier at 7 am or 11am.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

A few folks have referenced that BB is too concerned about what Torts thinks/said - I must have missed that ... what did BB say to make folks think that?

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

boo- I wouldn't worry about it. he's only answered media questions. it's not like he's bringing it up.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

beautiful play by the flyers.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

carter! nice goal. take it to the net. Use speed up ice not half strides coast into the zone.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

lol pens.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Kunitz laying into the body. gotta do something to shift that momentum.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

to the net again

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Instead of "shoot where they ain't" how about "crash the net?" How about "fun the goalie?" The Caps to a man look terrified of the crease. Shooting at Hank's chest from high outside the slot is not going to win games.

On and perhaps the skate today should not have been "optional" when the playoff picture is looking grim. I realize they have a game every other day and need rest, but something needs to happen so that the offense and defense actually execute in the same game. If my Friday night ends up being free, I will be one pissed CapsChick.

Posted by: JillC | April 19, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Run the goalie" that is.

Posted by: JillC | April 19, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Kennedy is such a woose. He pulled Giroux away from the ref to fight him, and he still got deked.

Giroux is a skill playee like half his size.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

deked = decked*

haha

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

oo7:
Yeah, I thought I read and saw all the post game stuff but have not gotten the impression that Gabby gave a hoot about Torts (but what do I know).

Wow! Flyers up 2 after 6 minutes ... and oooh they are all chippy! Was that Malkin who was flat on his back? This is gonna be an interesting game.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I hope the Caps are watching the way the Flyers are playing early in this one.

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh no it was Kennedy who was on his back. What a mess. HA!

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

And how is that? Get dominated the entire time by the Pens, and then score a goal on a turnover and a PP?

oh.

Actually that does sound a lot like the rags/caps. Caps dominate the flow and give up a goal on a defensive fart.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I think after losing 2 playoff games at home back-to-back, they should all be at practice to at least shoot the puck around.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Totally agree.

I'm surprised about BB determination not to play Brash. Personally I would have played him from game 1, since NYR is taking liberties with Green that Brash could have adressed. As a result, Green is not playing as he can imho.
To say that he "doesn't fit in our plans" is a pretty big statement, even if it was true I wouldn't have said that out loud.

Also, if you think that our D is not in trouble just because they allowed only one goal, think again. It wasn't the defense tightening it up, it was the offensive lines coming back, and it was one of the reasons we weren't as explosive in their end.

Wow, intense game in Philly.

Posted by: mauree | April 19, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Richmondphil

how's that? I should have said watch how the Flyers are scoring. You are right, the Flyers did have some early turn overs giving up 2 - 3 odd man rushes.

Carter went to the net [scored]

Gagne went to the net. [didnt score but Fleury had to react to him when Richards scored]

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

So this playoffs and last the Philly fans seem to all be wearing the same shirts as one another (well, for the most part). Given that, is it safe to assume the Flyers give shirts away at playoff games? If so, is that the only way they can successfully pull off an orange out? Gotta give props to Caps fans for rockin' the red without having their hands held.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Phil:
Play nice. I'm with bigschu8 ... I don't care how the Flyers did it or how the Caps do it - if they are up 2 (and stay there) tomorrow, I will be happy.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

You're right. The first thing I said here when I woke up this morning was that we will lose in 4 if we don't drive the puck to the net. Your point is valid; we need to learn to just take it to the net. Granted, Gonchar standing around like a retard screening Fluery did make that a little easy for Carter to just carry in like that.

I just meant that the Flyers looked like utter crap until the Carter goal.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Phil:
Play nice. I'm with bigschu8 ... I don't care how the Flyers did it or how the Caps do it - if they are up 2 (and stay there) tomorrow, I will be happy.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 3:48 PM |

what?

The Flyers looked like crap until Carter's goal. Even he admitted that. Sorry, but I don't want us to give up 5 turnovers in the first 2 shifts.....

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Tomorrow night can't come soon enough.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Phil:
And yet they are up 2-0 and we lost 0-1. I'd take what I could get and be happy with it. Granted, I didn't see the first five minutes and if I had a might feel differently, but in the end it ALL comes down to goals - for and against ... I'd take 2-0 any day regardless of what went into getting there.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

So, a few weeks ago I inquired about purchasing a game-worn Varlamov Lokomotiv jersey. (I collect non-NA jerseys...dont ask)

The guy just got back to me and wants over 400.00 US dollars for it. Get out of here.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

ugly. No puck support on the boards. And how is Malkin left alone in front?

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I think the players are not confident. I wish we were going into MSG up 2-0. We are the only team that lost both games at home. The thought of hockey almost being over depresses me. I was dreaming of making it to the Eastern Conference finals and playing until June. I know it's not over yet and anything can happen, but right now I'm not confident.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 19, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

And yet they are up 2-0 and we lost 0-1. I'd take what I could get and be happy with it. Granted, I didn't see the first five minutes and if I had a might feel differently, but in the end it ALL comes down to goals - for and against ... I'd take 2-0 any day regardless of what went into getting there.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 4:00 PM |

The point is that he said we should have come out the gate like the Flyers did. The Flyers had about 23423423434 turnovers in the first couple of minutes. I'm sorry, but I do not want the Caps coming out like that in any game and since the future is not guaranteed, I'm not going to pretend that it would be 2-0 like it is in this case.

He re-phrased it and said we need to learn to score goals like them. I fully agree with that.
But just because your team is on top 2-0 doesn't change the fact that I don't want our team to give up a crap ton of turnovers right away.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Phil:
Like I said, I didn't see the first five so maybe that would have made me feel differently (cuz that's a lot of turnovers!). But the Flyers I have seen since I turned the game on are playing with urgency and they've found the twine ... I am guessing that's what bigschu8 meant (not that I want to put words in his/her mouth). My point was if you read between the lines you could get his/her drift. So play nice! :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Another optional practice, great. Can the payments on my tickets for next season be optional too?

Posted by: spacecadetkid | April 19, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

All I know, is the way these other teams have been playing so far, the winner of this series will be chum in the water for whichever team they ultimately face in round 2. NYR and the Caps don't look like they are in the same league the way these other teams in the east (especially in the west, Vancouver and Detroit look like machines) have been playing. As much as I hate the Penguins, they are flying all over the rink. If the caps do make it through this series, they better step it up or they will be out.

Posted by: ejohnsto | April 19, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Actually this is what he meant;

"how's that? I should have said watch how the Flyers are scoring. You are right, the Flyers did have some early turn overs giving up 2 - 3 odd man rushes."

And I agreed with him.


Me and him are engaging in a perfectly calm discussion, how nicer do you want me to play? The Flyers looked like crap the first 5 minutes, and I wholeheartedly disagree that they have been playing with urgency above the Pens.

Oh, and the Pens score. 2-2 now.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Easy now you two. I did say that the Caps should come out like the Flyers did. Phil pointed out that the Flyers looked like crap and I agree. They did show urgency and did go to the net and scored two quick goals. They easily could have been down 2-0. The Caps are going to give up chances. This is what they do. But in game 2 they didn't do a good job of going to the net. Game 1, I think the Rangers scored a couple of stinkers.

So let me rephrase: I hope the Caps are watching how the Flyers came out in Game 3. Watching to see how lucky the Flyers were not down early with the turnovers and also watching how to go to the net.

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

LOL Fluery.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Pens look like crap now.

Flyers are just raining it on.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

what happened to Fleury? I'm not watching the game.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 19, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

What a weird game. The Pens contol and look real good and then the Flyers take control.

Both teams have been really bad too. I don't know if anyone in the East can beat the Bruins right now.

Except the Caps...

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

OK Phil. You have just been known to jump on people a time or two (read your original response - it was pretty snarky). Not saying that you are always wrong - to the contrary as I have stood up for you more than once (hello wee hours of the morning). No, there's nothing wrong with "calm discussion"; when I say play nice I am referring to that good ol' adage - it's not what you say it's how you say it. So there ya go - take it for what it's worth.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

As much crap as we want to give Crosby, he does one thing a hell of a lot more manly than Ovechkin. He sits in the crease to get those dirty goals. He plays Laich position on their PP.

LOL PENS. 4-2...

I Love Giroux.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I jump down on the people who usually deserve it; ala cstanton.

He re-phrased, and I agreed. I was just getting a little annoyed by the "play nice" comment.
I did jump on Greg S. once, and I apologize for that, if you are reading this. haha
Plus, we are down 2-0 in the 1st round right now, we all have an excuse to be extra snarky and read things the wrong way right now.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

We'd have to shift guys around for Ovie to sit in front of Lunq. He doesn't play center and mans the point on our PP anyways. It's not so much traffic in front of Lunq as having guys drive to the net for rebounds. Certain guys need to step it up too, Kozlov, Fehr, Green, etc weren't too good yesterday. Backstrom had a good shot late but he needs to be more of a force out there. His puck possession has been good maybe it's more than Kozlov seemed invisible to me yesterday except when he was taking penalties or missing the net on rebounds.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

@rachel

Here is something you will like. Neuvrith was put in the recent roster update for NHL 09. He sucks, and so does Varlamov, but at least they are in it! No picture for him yet, but there is a picture of Varlamov.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Phil:
"Plus, we are down 2-0 in the 1st round right now, we all have an excuse to be extra snarky and read things the wrong way right now."
Yes, I am feeling a bit of Caps rage myself at the moment ...

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

On building the Caps team. The first thing that had to be done is build a team that could make the playoffs. Check. Now, we need to build a team that can go deep. Unfortunately, building a team to go deep can't, in general, be done unless you build the team to make the playoffs first. The Caps have done Step 1. Now how to do Step 2 to go deeper.

How did the Pens get it done so fast?

What should we have done differently in building a team?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 19, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Go Philthy Go!! They're back in front of the Pens!

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 19, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Although I understand the point that we would have to completely re-work our PP, I disagree that Ovechkin is needed to be our point man. We can put Green and Pothier back there, Backstrom at the half-board, and have Laich and Ovechkin be the puck muckers. He is big enough and has the balance for no one to move him.

Ovie and the guys need to get to the net faster than they are from point shots for reounds, but also guys have to decide to stop taking the pointless wrister from outside the slot, bring their shoulder down, and drive that puck to the net. This creates traffic in front of the net, commotion, as well as takes away the Rangers obvious advantage in shot blocking.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"Stop growling, you sound like an old bear"
Sissy Spacek - Cole Miners Daughter

I hope the Caps are growling tomorrow

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

The Pens have been far more willing to go out there and buy the pieces they needed for long playoff runs, as opposed to the Caps philosophy of drafting and developing talent from within. The Pens have considerably more veterans than the Caps do. I'll see if I can go dig up the numbers, but my guess is the Pens have fewer guys that were drafted by the org, fewer guys that the org grabbed when they were still in the minors and thus developed them internally, and more guys over 30 than the Caps.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Emrick just said the Wachovia Center ice has been uncovered and un-used for three days in a freezing cold building. Wow--what a concept! Maybe the Verizon Center honchos could learn something from the Flyers.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 19, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Great ... intermission report = are the Caps done?

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Um, Bruce. Brash might play in the next series? We might need him just to win one game in THIS series. Put Koz and Nyles on the 4th line and bring up some youngters, please.

Posted by: FancyDan | April 19, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The Pens also started their rebuild before us, and reached the Finals.

Until the Caps do that, let's finish our rebuild.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Emrick just said the Wachovia Center ice has been uncovered and un-used for three days in a freezing cold building. Wow--what a concept! Maybe the Verizon Center honchos could learn something from the Flyers.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 19, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Unused would be nice, but someone asked Ted about this at a Q&A recently. he said, basically, that he would love it if the Caps were the one and only priority at the VC. However, Abe Pollin (as much as he may be on the "not liked" list) built that building with his own money, unlike so many other sports stadiums these days, and he has to make the mortgage payments, essentially. And as much as you and I may not like that answer, its the reality of the situation. The Caps alone would never be enough to pay for the VC. So we have to have the circus and Grateful Dead concerts and horse and pony shows throughout the year to ensure that the building remains open.

I'm not sure what the situation is regarding Wachovia Center ownership. But I wouldn't be surprised to find out its city owned and thus doesn't have the same issues the VC has.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Besides, the condition of the ice the past two games has not be the determining factor in the final score, so complaining about the VC ice is kinda misplaced.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Good points RedBirdie. Some of the Caps fans reminds me of the rotten spoiled rich kids who only think of themselves.

Posted by: opita1 | April 19, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

You can't really compare our rebuild to the Pens...even if you're just looking at top draft picks, the Pens had 3 consecutive years where they had the #1, #2, #1 overall picks (03, 04, 05). They got Fleury in 03, who has been superb for them, we still haven't solved our goalie problem although the future looks bright with our own first round draft pick in Varlamov. Their #2 pick the year we won the lottery and got Ovie was Malkin, not exactly a bad consolation prize, eh? Year after they get Crosby. We did have Ovie at #1 and Backstrom at #4, still waiting on some of our other picks like Varlamov, Alzner, etc to develop.

They act like we've been completely shut down when we put 3 behind Lunq in Game 1. Our goaltending lost us that game, plain and simple. Yesterday was one of those crazy playoff 1-0 games. If we put up a 5 spot tomorrow and everyone acts like we're suddenly back from the dead when in reality we lost two 1 goal games out-shooting them 70-45, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Although Melrose still thought we had a shot and even Torts seemed to acknowledge they're just finding a way and feel fortunate to be up 2-0.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I looked it up. The Wachovia Center is owned by Comcast-Spectacor. They own quite a bit of stuff (Comcast owns the controlling stake in this venture), and can afford to take a loss in one aspect of the business, because they can make up those costs elsewhere. This is a drastically different situation than Abe's Washington Sports & Entertainment. (Basically, Abe doesn't have a massive cable company to cover arena expenses!)

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

so mostly every team has taken care of business at home.. except us. This is very discouraging. :(

Posted by: rachel216 | April 19, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

spoiled rich kids who only think of themselves.

Posted by: opita1 | April 19, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

That would be the players on some teams!!!!! I won't say their names but their initials are Alexander Semin & Alex Ovechkin

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 19, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I never compared their rebuilds. I said that the Pens started before us and reached the Finals.

Both are true statements.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

@rachel

But all we have to do is look at today's Pitt/Philly game to show how a good Game 3 performance can change the outlook of the whole series. We're not getting dominated. Few tweaks here or there and a win tomorrow and everyone will suddenly see sunlight.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick of NHL's commentators kicking OV and the Caps when they're down. Yesterday during intermission, they had to bring up the whole "if you were a GM, would you take Cros or OV", (which is retarted anyway because they're two totally different positions). Then today, just now, they say "you know, in the beginning of the year, Leonsis was saying OV should be the main guy in the NHL...", and then draw comparisons to how he's playing now. Basically Canadian broadcasters don't want to admit that a Russian star is what they need to sell the sport. If his name was "Robert Lafleur", their would be a statue of him already in Toronto.

Yes, OV has to learn to use his team mates better and play less like an individual. I personally feel he will evolve into that.

But still, he IS WHAT the NHL needs to sell its product. He sells it better than anyone and he still can't speak english that well.

The caps will come out hard in gm 3. They should win. If they do, anything's possible. If they loose, forget it.

Posted by: floms | April 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Your problems as i have told you for 2 years ...You have the ingredients all wrong.

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 19, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

RedBirdie
(a) I never said the ice was the reason we lost two playoff games. But the ice has been an issue throughout the season.
(b) I know that Abe owns the building and is the decision-maker and the bill-payer. I'm an accountant by trade so I think I have a pretty good grasp of economics. We have the same scheduling issues at Giant Center since Hershey Entertainment does not own the building (though the Bears are considered the primary tenant). I understand all of that, but it's still a frustrating situation for Ted, for the players, and the fans. I'm simply expressing my frustration, ok?

Posted by: tess2201 | April 19, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

[["Just my opinion, after watching Scottie Upshall in the playoffs last year," Boudreau said. "Callahan did a pretty good imitation of Scottie Upshall."

I guess everyone but me, knows the meaning of that. Those of us in the dark thank you for the explanation Tarik.]]

He's complaining that Callahan is goading players into penalties. Boo freaking hoo. Whats next, Bruce is going to complain that the Rangers are blocking shots? gimme a break already, he's turning into a giant whiner. Focus on your club's issues, not on the Rangers. Maybe your club needs to "goad" opponents into penalties if thats what you're concerned about.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 19, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

@floms, I agree. also, look at this season, and even last season, for the Pens. When Crosby went down last year, it was hardly a blip for the Pens. Now, you can claim its because Malkin stepped it up.

Which brings us to this year. Malkina nd Crosby were both healthy for the first half, while the Penguins wallowed in 10th or so. Their season only really took off when Gonchar returned from injury! So, forgive me, but I'm stuck here thinking Sergei Gonchar, not Malkin or Crosby, is the real thing that makes that team tick.

(never mind that I find it very interesting that Hossa jumped ship last summer. Makes you wonder just what was/is going on up there!)

But when Ovie is out (a rarity, thank god!) or distracted by things like his dying grandfather, it has a tremendous effect on the Caps.

besides, really, we want to hold up some guy who went third man is and punched someone is the balls from behind? Seriously? Stay classy, Sid!

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

There is a difference between losing 2 at home, and losing 2 away, like the Flyers did.

Something's gotta change, or we are down in 4.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

i love how Bruce tries to pretend that Brashear won't be of any use in this series. Why then is Colton Orr in the lineup? Does he not think that the Rangers are a physical team? Does he not think that we could benefit from having a different presence in the lineup on our 4th line? Have Brash get low, stir up the crease a little, bang some bodies and get more room on the ice for his team. It can't hurt. I guess Boudreau thinks Brash will be more useful in the next series, since you know..its a foregone conclusion that we're going to advance.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 19, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1, kinda hard to goad the other team in penalties when the refs have made it abundantly clear that they're not going to call anything against the Rags.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

But Dave, Pit won at home and Philly is winning at home today. Can we "bring it," and have a good performance on the road?

I just have nightmares about Lundqvist stone walling us again. But we've had good luck up there, we scored 5 on him once, and 4 another time. He can be beaten. I really, really hope the boys come out tomorrow and get a win, I'm not ready for this season to be over yet.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 19, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Basically Canadian broadcasters don't want to admit that a Russian star is what they need to sell the sport. If his name was "Robert Lafleur", their would be a statue of him already in Toronto.

Yes, OV has to learn to use his team mates better and play less like an individual. I personally feel he will evolve into that.

But still, he IS WHAT the NHL needs to sell its product. He sells it better than anyone and he still can't speak english that well.

The caps will come out hard in gm 3. They should win. If they do, anything's possible. If they loose, forget it.

Posted by: floms | April 19, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

LOL ...A statue of Robert Lafleur??? LOL in Toronto??? LOL ok sure ...NOW who the heck is ROBERT LAFLEUR!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 19, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Dave- you're right on as far as our "rebuild" vs. the Pens. I think the big difference though is the goaltender. Fleury has been great and the past few years we had an aging Kolzig, Johnson, Huet and now The Odor. We also drafted Mike Green high but they traded for Gonchar so that's almost a wash. Once Varly becomes the full time guy and develops like Fleury then I think we'll be right there. I believe Varly will actually be better then Fleury to date but who knows how good Fleury is gonna be?

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

@phil

I know you didn't, have seen too much of that around here and was more a general statement. Far too much talk of us being done already for my liking. If any team knows about coming back from deficits it's our team, what we did at the end of the regular season last year and in forcing Game 7 last season in the playoffs. It's never over...

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

There is a big difference in the speed and physical nature to the way this Pit/Phi games is being played compared to our games with the NYR. Granted I think that has something to do with the Rangers no being a real physical team and not a particularly fast one either outside of Gomez. I still believe we will win this series and I wouldn't be shocked if we won the next 4. The Rangers have been getting the bounces and they won't last forever.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The changes I would make from the comfort of my couch:
I would take Green out of the PP and I would move OV away from the point. My power play would consist of OV, Semin, Backstrom, Pothier, Laich/Federov. OV and Green at the point are horrible, although they have a hard shot, they are slow giving the the goalie plenty of time to see what is coming - We need fast one-timers from that area. The puck needs to be moved fast among the players, creating different opportunities from different areas. The puck needs to rotate as well as the players, Backs, Semin and Federov gives you that. Currently OV seems to be floating around waiting for the puck, sometimes he is totally out of position. Everyone needs to look for a shot and take it if available, currently, they are just looking for OV and Green to shoot.

Another area of concern is the way some of the Caps like to play solo (Hint: two of the most talked Caps are the biggest offenders) they need to play more like a team.

That is how I see it from the comfort of the couch, and because my view is so limited, I might be totally wrong.

Posted by: opita1 | April 19, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm not throwing in the towel yet, but like I said, if our game doesn't change nothing is going to happen.

We can't go into Game 3 thinking that if we establish our own game, then we will win. Rangers have our game to a T.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

@sc07

I think it just went over your head that he was throwing together a generic name that might sound Canadian.

On the other hand I could be wrong and he just didn't know about Guy.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Did you guys see that Flyers fan flipping Crosby off? Class acts, I tell ya.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

B E L I E V E

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't really think they have our game to a T. We should have won game 1 without Theo, and it was just one of those games yesterday. If we had lost like 6-2 and 3-0 I'd say they had our game to a T. As it is I think we just have to make a few minor adjustments, nothing crazy. Some players need to step up their game because they haven't been playing as well as you would expect.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I believe Varly will actually be better then Fleury to date but who knows how good Fleury is gonna be?

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Fleury flops around a lot. at some point, someone is going to figure out the Flopping Fish goalies like Thomas and Fleury and the like, and positionally sound guys like Varly (and Neuvy) will be the key. I just hope that day is sooner rather than later! I'm so sick of the dying fish impressions on ice....

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Did you guys see that Flyers fan flipping Crosby off? Class acts, I tell ya.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 5:34 PM

Probably the highlight of his life. Flipping off a pro athlete on TV.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

"Rangers have our game to a T. "

I agree but they are beatable, and I think the Caps will comeback and win it on 7, if BB listens to me (LOL).

Posted by: opita1 | April 19, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

richmond it wont change until you change the personal ...the hot stick move the jumping thing, your goaltender helping to come up with ideas. SEMIN so called injured ALL the time ....Get rid of the "C" word guys

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 19, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Keep on believin
keep rockin the red

Stay patient
Everything is going according to plan

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Dave:
Amen.

Phil:
He sure seemed excited about it. Guess he never heard that old adage ... ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't really think they have our game to a T. We should have won game 1 without Theo, and it was just one of those games yesterday. If we had lost like 6-2 and 3-0 I'd say they had our game to a T. As it is I think we just have to make a few minor adjustments, nothing crazy. Some players need to step up their game because they haven't been playing as well as you would expect.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 5:35 PM

I am talking defensivly. When they are forcing all of our shots from outside the slot, then something has got to change. If we continue to take those ridiculous shots on the rush from the slot that get blocked or hit the glass, then we will lose.

Until the guys decide to do the dirty work, they won't score. Ovie said it after Game 1, but it's easy to talk.

Also, how many goals have been scored with Green pinching? 2? 3? This isnt the regular season....

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey cheef -

You are criticizing GMGM and Ted for the team they "are still" putting together. It takes more than a couple of years to put the pieces in place to have a legit chance at the cup. Goalies? They could have signed Huet back, but he wanted more years, and they are more interested in developing kids like Varly. Another top defender? Sure, but the opposing GM wanted a heavy dose of our offensive talent and a few of the boys from Hershey. Everything hockey is far more complicated and difficult to achieve than most fans are willing to accept.

Posted by: gonchpup | April 19, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Hasek also flopped around.....

But I remember someone here trying to tell me Hasek sucks, so who knows.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

opita1- I respectfully and strongly disagree. Ovechkin and Green lead the league in PP goals this year and they need to be out there on the PP. They're just not clicking right now and I agree with you on that but I don't think that change is the solution. Put Semin and Backs out there and then a grinder in front of the net and we'll be clicking again. We weren't the #2 PP all year for no reason. We've got the weapons its just a matter of gettin em going again. We were 2/7 in Game 1 and that isn't too bad. If we got that yesterday we win 2-1

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

@gonchpup, I agree 100%. And the salary cap makes everything 100 times harder! I have no idea how ken Holland in Detroit manages to do it year after year.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, imagine that. Koslov missed the shoot around. He's looked for months now like he's ready to be done in Washington and get down to Florida asap! You know, I'm no NHL coach, but I think after losing 2 games to a team you were supposed to beat, I would have made today mandatory for players, equipment guys, trainers, pro shop staff, everybody... to prove a point that a first round exit is unacceptable. All season I thought this team got bored waiting for the playoffs, but now I think that maybe there are some guys just bored with playing hockey in general. It's fun when they're winning 5 to 2 and everybody is high-fiving and smiling, but when it's time to work for it, maybe they just make too much money and say "who needs this"? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they'll wake up and take control for a game or two, but I can't see them staying consistent enough to pull out the series. I hope I'm wrong...

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Complicated ?

They never replaced Tinordi, never REALLY addressed goaltend and overall D.

It's not complicated unless you want it to be, which is the convenient excuse de jour.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Stay patient
Everything is going according to plan

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 5:38 PM

yup if your plan is to tee-off in a week!
your right on target!
"FOUR"

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 19, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil, regarding Hasek, you'll also find a fair number of Wings fans that HATED Hasek. I mean, loathed the guy in ways I never quite understood. They were doing the happy dance when he retired. Very strange.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The Caps are going to adjust. They have to and they know it. If we are this frustrated with the situation, imagine how they feel. Tomorrow will be a different game. They've lost games by 1 - no 3 or 4. They're not out of it. Most predicted them to win for a reason. They're the better team - they'll figure it out.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

BB has got to put a leash on Green. Let him work his own end and make a good outlet passes. Let him lose on the PP. The Rangers can not beat us. We can only beat ourselves...

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 19, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

btw, the Flyers just scored an empty net to go up 6-3.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

HA HA!! A troll was trolled. Anyone who knows cheef knows that he was being sarcastic. Silly SC1907.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse


I was just saying, floppers can be effective too. Although me pointing the definition of perfect "flopper", Hasek, probably doesn't help Fluery's or Thomas's case.

I would say that Varlamov reminds me more of a spazz like goalie though, like Hasek.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

RedBirdie -

I agree with your analysis of the Pens and will go one further... Both Malkin and Crosby are top talents, but the team DID sputter most of the season despite their presence. The Pens needed the return of Gonchar, like you said, as well as Fluery getting healthy and the trades they made at the deadline (not to mention a new coach). It was only then that they came alive. CRAP!

Posted by: gonchpup | April 19, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

@phil

I agree the shots need to be coming from different spots, and if they are committing so much to blocking shots we need to use that against them. I've seen Green do it a lot on the PP during the reg season fake the big shot then bring it down to get to a better angle or make a nice skip pass in the space that gets cleared out. Look at all the good chances in this game, you don't always need a screen in front, just a way to get the puck going across the crease and changing the angle that the shot is coming from. I have a feeling Brooks is going to score a big dirty goal tomorrow.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I think Wings fans hated Hasek for a bunch of reasons, not just the flopping. Although he flopped less than Thomas. Thomas looks like he's have a serious medical emergency out on the ice.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Well if the Flyers can do it then so can the Caps. Bring it boys!!!! LET'S GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm not asking for a screen, as much as I want them to crash the net with the puck. Tuck your shoulder in, drive in, and try to get that puck in the net.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

@gonchpup, yeah, I touched on Gonchar in a later post. I really do feel like he is the Pen's MVP. That team was dead in the water until he came back. (Malkin's a good player, no disrespect--other than the standard disrespect because he's a Panguin, of course--but Gonchar turned that team around).

Very interesting that they had to tear that team apart and rebuild in mid-season to even make the playoffs, no? They could lose Malkin and/or Crosby, and they'd still be ok, I think. Those two aren't quite the saviours everyone is making them out to be.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Rangers have one goal, not getting on a flight to Washington

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, one more thing. Why was Brashear considered such an intregal part of the team all season up until his injury? He could have been scratched many games in order to bring up some of the young guys from Hershey, but no, he was part of the lineup and there he stayed. Now, after the team losing 2 playoff games, he's not really needed, "maybe next series"... I say put him in and let him hit some people and shake this thing up!!! It ain't workin' the way it's going now, with everybody shooting from outside at a goaltender who is ready and square to the shot.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

You ppl put up with both this ownership to hire players with zero desire Pay them big bucks and you line up to give them your money Shame on all of you. Try going to the next game a BOO semin when he touches the puck its the best thing you could do for this team.

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 19, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

How did the pens tear down their team midseason and rebuild? they picked up players at trade deadline like caps did last year, they changed the coach like the caps did last year. I am not seeing the tore the team down and rebuilt....

Posted by: cocorules | April 19, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

They could lose Malkin and/or Crosby, and they'd still be ok, I think. Those two aren't quite the saviours everyone is making them out to be.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 5:51 PM |

Eh...this is quite a stretch.

I agree that Gonchar helped whip their PP in shape, but Malkin and Crosby are two huge factors for their team's success. You said earlier that Malkin and Crosby have played all season, and at the same pace. Well that isn't a knock on them, as much as it is a knock on how everyone else around them for the first half of the season were completely ineffective. Deadline time, they get Gonchar back, and they actually get effective wingers for their center men.

Malkin and Crosby were the only thing going for this team until the deadline.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Pockerface1208,
I didn't meant to say that OV should be out of the PP, he should just not play the point. As for Green, he has a strong shot but he takes too long to shoot, it gives the goalie plenty of time to see the puck.
But the main reason for moving those two guys (Dropping Green) is that the puck and the players are not rotating and everyone is looking to pass to them, making the play predictable, the passing lanes dangerous for the opposition to have a short hand opportunity. We need creativity and in the case of Lundqvist we need to have him guessing and moving.

Posted by: opita1 | April 19, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Shero understands his role, firing coach that took them finals is very tough to do, yet he did it.

Satan was a mistake but instead of "living with it"(see Nylander), he did what's in best interest of the team, waived him.

Guerin and Koonitz FAR better fit for Crosby.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

And I should also add that Bylsma has helped the Pens as well.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

ok, I'll grant you Malkin as a "key to penguins' success" but not Crosby. I don't think he's ever put the penguins on his back and dragged them kicking and screaming like Ovie does in Washington or Malkin did last season (along side a healthy Gonchar)

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Nyls has a NMC, Cheef. nice try though.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

@cheef (although I should know betetr than do this), Nylander has a No Movement Clause. Do I need to spell out for you what that means? Satan didn't have one.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Crosby, as hard as this is for me, is probably one of the best two-way forwards in the league, especially given his age.


Believe me, that is hard to admit.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Nyls has a NMC, Cheef. nice try though


Nothing stopping the coach from moving him into the pres box, that would take a pair and the GM's consent, nevermind.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

The best way to stop shooting at Lundy's chest is to ... play juiceboy!

Hit those corners!

That's what they should have done instead of an optional practice.

Posted by: rw-c | April 19, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

What moron would give Nylander a nmc ?

Hahahhahah

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Joe!!! Are you here to save the day?!? Please ... save us from ourselves!!! ;-) (But watch your step - the trolls are back ... don't the Caps know what they put us through when they lose?!? :-/)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

If you have such a problem with the Caps management, why don't you just hop on a new team's wagon?

I mean, tons of people did it when the Expos came into town, so it's not like this area has a strong commitment to their home team.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Curious to know when the starter in goal is announced. I know logic would seem to point to Varly again but he put the swerve on when I thought Theo would get another chance yesterday. Although BB's comment seem to indicate he has intentions of going back to Theo at some point in the series.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Zero accountability, Caps GM is a disgrace.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

"I think the big difference though is the goaltender. Fleury has been great and the past few years we had an aging Kolzig, Johnson, Huet and now The Odor."
Posted by: pokerface1208

I also think goaltending has been one glaring ommission in the re-building of the team. I don't know why. Mike Wise's column today has a list of goaltenders (some good & some okay) who have beaten us in playoffs time and forced an early exit. You would think that finding our Henrik equivalent would have been a top priority. Instead they rode Kolzig (and even Theo this year) past the point when it was clear they were the weak links.

Having said this, however, I think the expectations that are fueling our anger are unrealistic. I still think we will win the series. We may even be like Carolina and end up with the cup this year. If we have an early exit, however, do we see it as a failure and start blaming those who were the foundation of our success (BB, Ovie etc.)? The frustration is getting out of hand and is losing perspective.

It has been--what--a season and a half since BB took a team from the bottom of NHL to the number 2 in the Eastern Conference and won two consecutive division championships. And it's not like the Caps used to be a great team that was experiencing a slump. It was a team that never had a tradition of winning or a reputation. I know the promise was so great that we all feel cheated and frustrated. But is it realistic to expect a coach to take a team from the bottom to the Stanley Cup in less than two seasons?

It takes years for a college to build an elite team within their division, or transition from Division III to Division I. I don't know the comparable stats in NHL, especially for a team that did not have a history of Hall-of-Famers or past Cup championships? Does anyone know?

I have complete confidence that the Caps will get there--whether it is this year or in three years.

Posted by: caraveli | April 19, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

CHEEF - "Rangers have one goal, not getting on a flight to Washington"
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I would hope not because they'll be taking a TRAIN back to Washington 2 more times.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Makes no difference which goalie gets in, the blame no longer matters.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm not trying to criticize Alex Ovechkin, but does it seem to anybody else that opposing teams this year have figured out his move of shooting between the defensemans legs when coming down the wing? Last year that shot was his bread and butter, this year they appear more than ready for it.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

By the time the Caps have a bonafied number 1 in net, other positions will be in trouble, they're too stupid to get the core built at the same time.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

kcbrichmond -

...and OV still managed the goal-scoring title...

Posted by: gonchpup | April 19, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

...and OV still managed the goal-scoring title...

Of course that's more important than a Syanley Cup.

Go Caps ! Uh, I mean OV, Semin & Green

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

does anyone else hate the stupid NHL Center Ice commercial?

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

cheef -

Your comments are too stu stu stupid to matter.

Posted by: gonchpup | April 19, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Maybe a season and a half isn't enough time to get the cup for BB. But he was the one doing the commercial, that we've all seen 1,653 times, with the "Cup" holder in the back of the SUV. Also, don't forget that the season last year started with great promise and anticipation, only to see Coach Glen Hanlon drive it into the ditch...

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

As for the Stanley Cup - in time... in time... and until then, the entire NHL benefits from increased interest and ticket sales and merchandising brought on by fans nationwide who are in awe watching the talents of OV, Green, and to a lesser extent, Semin.

Posted by: gonchpup | April 19, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

gonchpup-
Yes OV is incredible, I'm not denying his scoring title. Just commenting that his classic shot between the legs move doesn't seem to work this season...

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Boo:
I'm here but I don't think I can save anyone.

I was happy to see the Flyers win game 3, but their two losses were road games, contrary to the Caps' situation where they must win at least two out of three in New York.

The Caps have to forget about their situation and win one game at a time.

Boudreau should put some teeth in his ignored order to get some bodies in front of Lundqvist. Pick one guy on each line to do it, and let him know that if he fails to follow through on any shift, his minutes will be severely limited.

Backstrom has to stop entering the zone on the left boards and dropping the puck for Ovie because Ovie's typical move from that position isn't working.

I agree with the earlier poster who said Ovie and Green should be taken off the PP points. Put Ovie at the half wall or down low. I would put Jurcina at the point and have him put some of his powerful slappers on net or to a forward who has a chance to deflect the shot.

Posted by: rw-c | April 19, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

There is no way in H.E. double hockey sticks BB puts Theo back in net. Think about it, if he did and Theo failed and we lost like 5-4 and had a few bad goals he'd never live it down. No way he goes back with Theo. And I'm glad, Varly played more than well enough to get another start.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

We're done. Not tough enough. Too many pretty boys worried about their haircut. Fehr,Fleischman,Kozlov,and Nylander are dead to me. Semin and Greens toe drags are nice in game 57 of the regular season but not in the playoffs.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 19, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

@Cheef

Don't know Varlamov looks pretty good and we drafted him in 06. We didn't have the luxary of #1, #2, #1 in back to back to back years. If people were really expecting a Cup a year and a half after being bottom of the league you don't have a lot of patience...or common sense. I was expecting a better start to the playoffs but the series isn't over yet.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Juice at the point on the PP won't work in my opinion. His shot may be as hard as anyone's in the league but he's definitely Fulton Reed in that he hits the net about 1 out of 5.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe a season and a half isn't enough time to get the cup for BB. But he was the one doing the commercial, that we've all seen 1,653 times, with the "Cup" holder in the back of the SUV."
Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 6:28 PM

I LOVE this commercial. Classic BB deadpan humor.

The commercial picks up on something real, however. And this is that BB is the only coach, to my knowledge, that dared dream big. He is faced with a team at the bottom that is as demoralized and hopeless as you can get. And yet he does not see the task at hand as simply managing a crisis and patching up holes, but as one of unleasing the team's potential and removing all obstacles to the highest point of aspiration. This is the attitude that enabled the team's rise and will, I am sure, get them there sooner or later.

Does anybody know what Hershey was like before BB came? It looks to me like it has achieved a pretty sustainable level of success.

Posted by: caraveli | April 19, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Joe:
I thought you were our savior? :-/ Please don't remind me of things like the Flyers won at home and we're now on the road. I knew that - I was hoping that you would distract me from the facts. Next you'll tell me that 87% of teams who win the first two take the series. Thanks, Joe ... thanks a lot. :-P

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

sweet mark, thanks for your support and ridiculous insight.

Gee, will it ever end? Please Caps win tomorrow so we can be rid of the haters

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

The Stanley Cup: "in time, in time"... Not good enough. My Dad and I have been fans since '74, and lived though heartbreak after playoff heartbreak. He's in poor health now in his late 80's, I thought maybe he'd finally get to see the Caps get the Cup this year, but noooooo. For the newer Caps fans, maybe this isn't that bad, but for me it's torture... Maybe sports is silly to some, but I've invested time, money, and heart in this franchise for decades and it's an awful hurt.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I think Mark was kidding ... (long time no see Mark!)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody know what Hershey was like before BB came? It looks to me like it has achieved a pretty sustainable level of success.

Posted by: caraveli | April 19, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The Bears were affiliated with Colorado, iirc, immediately prior to 2005, when they inked the deal with the Capitals. When they joined the Caps organization, that's when BB came in, so its a bit hard to make any comparisons. New coach, new parents club, and with the new parent club came an influx of players affiliated with the Caps--guys like Green, Fehr, and Laich.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 19, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Don't make a liar out of me Mark ... please tell me you were kidding! :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Opita's PP, with 8 on the wing and, well, anything but 852 on the point, sounds tempting to me. Of course, a new-look PP has no value unless Caps work the trench that draws playoff penalties. So, moving on:
How many of you -really- think Caps could go to the ECF before Varlamov, Alzner, Osala were 23 years old? (I chose these three players as credible in-stock responses to this team's well-known "question" marks: Starter G, boring D, and crease O.)

Posted by: redlineblue | April 19, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, didn't realize BB was the only coach to "dream big". Believe it or not we've had good coaches before: The Murrays, Ron Wilson, etc... I think BB is a teriffic coach! However we are the 2nd seed in the conference with a great record, some of you now seem to be acting like we weren't supposed to go very far in the playoffs...why not? We're not a new expansion team, we've been around 35 years!

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

@kcbrichmond

I've invested plenty of time and money into all of my sports teams and it's sticking with them through all of the hard years that makes it so great when they succeed. I hope your father gets to see the Caps hoist the Cup, I really do. Maybe you should just root for whichever team wins the Cup this season if anything but total success isn't good enough for you.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Boo:
You were supposed to concentrate on the fact that the Flyers lost the first two games and won game 3 to tighten up the series.

The Caps can be one those who come back from 0 and 2 to take the series.

How can I distract you? Take you off topic? Did you watch "Grey Gardens" last night?

Posted by: rw-c | April 19, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

We need Brash back in the game. Clearly, a more physical presence is needed against the Rangers. I am sorry to see BB so hard on him.

Posted by: capsfan01 | April 19, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Is the announcement of who's starting tomorrow supposed to come out today? I'm pretty sure it'll be Varly but I was just wonderin'.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 19, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

the only place we need Brash is the same place we need nyls and federov....gone at seasons end (2more games?) pay out the bum nyls and spend some dough on young gritty players who know how to skate forwards and backwards and hit regularly

Posted by: wendel2 | April 19, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Joe ... I needed that!! ;-) (And no I didn't watch it, but maybe I need to.)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Rags blocked 28 shots. How many did we block? That stat tells an awful lot about grit and desire to win. Anybody can
block a shot but we dont have nearly enough guys who will.............

Posted by: wendel2 | April 19, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

@wendel

Bit of a loaded stat, as if we attempt far more shots than they did, which we did at about a 2.5 to 1 ratio, obviously they'll have more chances to block shots.

Also the only shot it would have mattered to block yesterday was one that no one could have blocked. Call me crazy but how many shots we blocked yesterday in comparison to them mattered not at all. Finding a way to not get so many of our shots blocked DOES matter.

Relevance. We could have blocked 30 shots yesterday and we still would've lost 1-0.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

@KCBRichmond - I 2nd that buddy. I go back to the mid 70's as well. I was a STH before I moved to Colorado and I was still a partial plan holder for a few years after I moved here in 96. It's so painful because this is by far the best collection of talent we've ever seen at 1 time in a Caps uniform. I sincerely hope your Dad can hang on for a couple of years to see this. Unfortunately Abe owned this team for far too long and never gave us a chance. I compare DC to Colorado and I really don't think that fans in Colorado really appreciate what they got. For us long term fans in DC who have stuck through think and thin, I think we get it. Avs fans had a big eye opener this year. We weren't able to acquire the prior years President's trophy winner we had to start from scratch. I'm with ya though buddy. I want to see this thing come full circle. I flew home for the finals against Detroit and I'm prepared to do it now. I just hope it happens. We're in better hands now with Ted & Co.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

@kcbrichmond

I hope for the sake of your father, the Caps will hoist a Stanley Cup in the next few years. You sound like you must be my age (or older) as my dad is in his 80's also. I'm 55, will be 56 this summer.

Have you been a fan since the team began?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 19, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

To save time for the GM, I made him a list of who should stay on the team next year. This way he can concentrate on figuring out what acqusitions he can make to close gaps.

Coach: BB

Players:
Ovechkin
Nicklas Backstrom
Semin
Green
Laich
Fleischmann
Sergei Fedorov
Kozlov
Clark (on probation)
Fehr
Steckel
Gordon
Poti
Pothier
Azner
Sloan
Aucoin

Varlamov (G)

Posted by: caraveli | April 19, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

KCB - in short though you're right, we shouldn't settle for winning 2 division titles and a trip to the playoffs. That should never be the goal unless you're rebuilding and I dont' think we're in rebuilding mode anymore. IF we lose to the Rangers I consider this yr a failure. We didn't improve from last year no matter where we were a year and a 1/2 ago.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

kcbrichmond, pokerface1208, CapsFan75:

Maybe we should have a subgroup of those of us who were Caps' fans from (or near) the beginning.

I wrote Abe Pollin to preorder season tickets in 1974 before season tickets went on sale. Even that terrible season didn't sour me on the Caps. I've had full or partial season tickets many times since.

Game three is yours for the taking, Caps!

Posted by: rw-c | April 19, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli,

Essentially, you propose keeping most of our forwards, save Brash, Nyls, and Bradley, and only Green, Poti, and Pothier among the D-men. No Morrison, Schultz, Erskine, or Jurcina.

I would say, let Brash go. He seems to get injured every time he's in a fight. Nyls doesn't fit into our system but we're probably stuck with him due to the No movement Clause. (Okay, 2 more years after this.)

Poti's been a good player but he keeps having groin problems. Would he be trade bait, if necessary? Johnson's a free agent. As is Morrisonn.

We only have Kozlov and Fedorov signed until the end of this year. How long can Fedorov last?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 19, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

davecapsfan u missed the point but good math skills

Posted by: wendel2 | April 19, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

@rw-c

Were you also a fan from near the beginning also? I was a fan since 1975 when I graduated from college. The first game I saw live was a 2-0 loss with Bernie Wolfe in goal. (Before the Caps, I followed the St. Louis Blues. I like the Blues but dislike David Backes for obvious reasons.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 19, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

@pokerface1208

Okay, we got the team basically rebuilt to make the playoffs, consistently. That was Phase 1, which was necessary. Now time for Phase 2, tweak the team for a long playoff run.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 19, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Grow a pair and drive to the net. Move your feet constantly. Skate through people. Get in front of the net and don't get pushed away... or lose quickly and have fun teeing it up. Talent doesn't mean s@#$... desire is what wins games.

Posted by: Roose | April 19, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

"We didn't improve from last year no matter where we were a year and a 1/2 ago."
Posted by: pokerface1208

How do you figure this? Last year we won about 46 game (only because BB came in Nov.) and this year 50. Last year we went into the playoffs as, I think, 6 or 7 seed and this year as second seed. This year--unlike last year-- we have had plenty of secondary scoring, with goals coming from different players and all lines. Until the slump in March, we played as a team and greatly improved the skill level. I could go on and on for pages.

What is shocking, however, is going back to the years before BB. I counted 28 wins in the 2006-07 season. I thought I was wrong and counted again and again. Nope. It still was 28 wins.

This means that we have gone from winning roughly 33% of the games in 06-07, to winning 55% last year and about 60% this year.

I think that this is about as dramatic of an improvement as you can get. With some more time and the right acquisitions, like in the goalie position, we will get there.

Posted by: caraveli | April 19, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Davethecapsfan-
Wow, you guys are tough. After 35 years I never mentioned giving up on the Caps. I just said it makes me sick to my stomach to endure the playoff torture year after year. Some of you guys who are newer to the Caps maybe haven't endured the years... The bottom line is that I think this team has too much talent to go out in the first round. I don't plan to switch teams, however I don't think it's too much to expect this organization to win a Stanley Cup. Anyway maybe they can turn it around in NYC!

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey guys, I was just wondering, are the games usually streaming live somewhere? I am going to be working late tomorrow night.

Posted by: dcsportsfan13 | April 19, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

@ caraveli - The Caps could have won 100% of their games, it is what you do in the playoffs that determines if the season is a positive or a negative. I think most people consider 07-08 a positive, as I do, because of were they ended and were the started. However, even with the higher win total, this team again looks shell shocked against what should be an inferior opponent and that falls both on BB as well as the personnel that McPhee has selected for this team. If you are satisfied with a winning season and crashing out in this fashion so be it, but if you are interested in looking up some more stats take a look at our horrid history of playoff failure.

Posted by: The_Spear | April 19, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

CAPSFAN75- I agree, and if you listen to Ted for the last several years he wants to build this in steps so to say. Stick to the plan. We are built for the playoffs and for a long time. Now it's time to make some hard decisions on who to keep and who not to. I truly believe that we will no longer do much in the free agent market, if anything at all. I think Nylander cured Ted of that (just judging from the emails I've exchanged with him). So now the challenge is, how do we become a Cup contender consistently? What players are part of the core, which players have reached their potential, which players aren't working in the system currently in place and how can we better our team filling other holes. This to me is a bigger challenge than starting from scratch. Many teams become playoff teams but not many become and stay consistent Cup contenders. Should be fun. But hey, I'd be all for having a beer or something with some people who have been Caps fans since the 70's. We've all got great stories to tell for sure.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

It's good to see some life time fans finding their way onto this blog. I knew I wasn't crazy!

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 19, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Joe:
First the girls' club now the '74 club?!? You sure are a man about town!

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli
"Last year we went into the playoffs as, I think, 6 or 7 seed and this year as second seed."

No, last year we were #3 seed.

@pokerface1208 and others:
I started in 1985 so I haven't been in it as long as you guys, but long enough to remember some pretty lean years.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 19, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Guys, I'm about 2 1/2 hours from DC. So I've been a long distance fan for alot of years. I get to maybe 10 games a year, but have spent most of the years on the couch watching the Caps on Home Team Sports and later Comcast. I date back to the '74 AHL Richmond Robins who were the farm team for the Caps and believe it or not the Flyers the same year. I watched Michele Belhumeur move up from the Robins to playing goal for the Caps for the first few miserable seasons. I haven't attended as many games as most of you, but as far as memories, the worst was being at the Capital Centre when Pat Lafontaine put us under with the game winner in game 7 against the Islanders after many, many overtimes. I've never heard a building get so quiet with so many tired and exhausted people in the small hours of the morning... Walking to the car was like the "Night of the Living Dead", all the Caps fans (including me) were stunned and heartbroken.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Boo, are you feeding the trolls today? are you bored or something?

Posted by: Leeguru | April 19, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

@wendel

No I got the point, just making a very general statement trying to claim we have no heart or desire thus we won't win. Completely disregards the fact we battled back from a 3-1 deficit in Game 1 and battled to the end of Game 2. I just thought it was a silly argument, and had almost zero relevance to what has actually gone on in the 2 games so far.

@kbc

Didn't mean to come off harsh...your post just seemed to be demanding a Cup for your years of "service". I know I'm a "newer" fan having only been attending games since '87...but I'd wait another 25 years if that's what it takes.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

@tess and Caraveli,

The Caps were third seed, as they won the Southeast Division but had a worse record than many of the other "lower" seeds.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 19, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is down on Brash. He is still the best enforcer in the NHL. Fighting still can change the momentum of the game. He was only injured by a fight once this season. He should be parked in front of the Ranger's net because the Cap's current strategy is NOT working. And we are running out of time. He is experienced and good for the chemistry of the team. I vote for him to stay. Along w Feds.

Posted by: capsfan01 | April 19, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Leeguru online on a Sunday night?!? Who let you out to play?? ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Davecapsfan
so u think our work ethic was admirable in games 1 and 2 and that we aren't being outworked by a less talented ranger team?

Posted by: wendel2 | April 19, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

anyone know went to the optional for euros practise today?

Posted by: wendel2 | April 19, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

kcbrichmond:
I was at that game. It was past my bedtime (literally - I'm surprised that I didn't get grounded when I got home) but I was there until the bitter end. I have never experienced anything like it before and hope never to again ... unless we come out on the other side! :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

brash is washed get over it

Posted by: wendel2 | April 19, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Doing homework

Posted by: Leeguru | April 19, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Poor guru ... should I distract, I mean help, you via email? ;-) (Oh and, FWIW, I refrained from feeding the trolls today ... but given my mood, I was tempted!)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Wendel

On the whole, no I don't feel like we are being outworked. They've gotten some timely goals (granted, a couple of Theo's in Game 1 were a little soft), and we missed some chances in Game 2 while Lunq had a terrific game. If we get the same level of goaltending in Game 1 that we got yesterday, this series is at 1-1. If Ovie's shot is a fraction lower late in the 3rd, it goes to OT and sitting there near some Rangers fans yesterday, even they had no sense the Rangers were going to put another one by Varlamov. They were praying 1-0 would hold up.

We need to work harder, take more advantage of rebounds and go to the net more, but I don't think we're getting outworked or outplayed by the Rangers. That being said, they've done enough to win 2 close games on the road. We have to prove we can do the same and be just as opportunistic.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

No need on the help/ thanks though. And let the trolls play. You knew they were coming. Hide in the good times, come out and talk smack when things get tough. I just wish their comments were more interesting

Posted by: Leeguru | April 19, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

last time I checked, you can't cross check, interfere with or slash an opposing player standing in the crease. So the question is, why won't anyone on the caps do it? Sure laich has here or there, but every other team is doing it.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Leeguru:
I know - they're quite predictable. I actually enjoyed the Rangers fans who popped in before the series started for a real exchange, but all of the other tired "rhetoric" (if it even qualifies as that) bores me. *yawn*

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

i'm all for a coach giving optional practices to recover the body. however, i think this is a point where a player should be calling people up and telling people to get their butts out to practice to work on something new (getting in front of the net).

Posted by: am_jim | April 19, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Davethecapsfan-
No, not demanding a cup for my years of service, just frustrated again. Still a loyal Caps fan, just never expected to be down 2 to none in the opening series... I just thought this team was something special, hate to see them go out like this. Maybe instead we'll see the most incredible comeback in Caps history!! Sorry.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 19, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Have the Caps been going to the net all season? How do they rank in most goals scored this season?

Stats - they are awesome... someone give me the stat on how many defenders could not break an nhl record from the 80's... or how many skaters that tried to get 200 goals and 200 assists in 4 season (there are only 3 that have done that). So, give me those stats... I am sure that number is smaller than the percentage of teams that win the series after 2 games.

I guess I am confused of all the fans... are you not used to the Caps digging themselves a hole and somehow getting out of it. Last year, I heard these same remarks on how the Caps were not going to make the post season... guess they made it. Down 3-1 in a series to a better team and came back to tie it up. This is our Caps - win when your back is against the wall. Until these young guys actually learn to dominate on a regular basis, this is what we are going to get. They are the best team in the NHL when they 'have' to be. I'm not too concerned. Like I said before... that game in December is going to be foreshadowing for this series... even said it before the series even started. Again, not too concerned...

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

828:
I'm with ya. Granted, I am concerned, but I have not given up. If anyone can do it, they can (they don't call 'em the comeback / cardiac kids for nothin'). As frustrating as this is, it ain't over yet ... tomorrow night cannot get here fast enough. BTW, did you sport the Weagle yesterday?

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, I am frustrated, but since I can't do anything about it... all I can do is support them.
I sported the weagle in game 1. Yesterday, i didn't have time, so I did some sort of face paint thing over one guy... it was stupid, but I wanted to do something. I brought my 'Welcome to DC sign', but was not in an area where the cameras could see it...

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

haha, one eye - not one guy...

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

828,

I agree that there really isn't much to worry about. As a lifelong fan, I cannot remember a more exciting season. And i count this as a bonus. They are a year ahead of schedule in my opinion. The team is built for the long haul. They won't just go to a finals and fade after a season; they will be there for years.

Posted by: Leeguru | April 19, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

828:
Exactly - I don't care how good or bad things are, ALWAYS support your team. (This could open the "never boo your own team" debate, but I won't go there! ;-)) RE: "I did some sort of face paint thing over one guy", huh?!?

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

OH! One eye! Got it!! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Shero understands his role, firing coach that took them finals is very tough to do, yet he did it.

Satan was a mistake but instead of "living with it"(see Nylander), he did what's in best interest of the team, waived him.

Guerin and Koonitz FAR better fit for Crosby.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

yeah, shero's a genius. team gets two overall number 1's and two overall number 2's this decade. tough to make those picks. but a quick look at the teams roster shows 9 UFA's at the end of this year with $46M in cap money already dedicated to the other players. not to mention $37M committed the following year to nine players. thats a lot of players to replace w/ probably not a ton of cap room to manuever with. meanwhile the caps have 3 ufa's and $44M committed to others, plus all of their draft picks. they have only $28M committed the following year when semin and backstrom come up for RFA.

who do you think is better aligned to compete in the next five years. the pens may make a nice run this year, but they wont win the cup and their window will shut soon, just as that caps is opening wider. you can only fire so many coaches or count on getting so many 1 and 2 picks. that hossa deal has worked out pretty well...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | April 19, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

You know what I hate - fans chanting 'ref you suck'... maybe the refs can't hear what those fans are saying... maybe that's the only game they will ref in the Verizon Center... maybe they forget?

As a coach, never treat the refs with disrespect as you never know when you will see them again... or need some calls... like in the playoffs.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

828- I'm not giving up because I think it can be done, but the regular season does not matter. seriously man, it doesn't. all that was just to get into the post season. it doesn't matter that they had 3rd most goals in the league. it doesn't matter that ovechkin had 50+ goals. they're down 2 games heading out of town. they have to adjust and they haven't shown yet that they can do that. too laid back yesterday. look at these other games. do you see the caps putting forth comparable efforts? I don't. are they out? no. are they in trouble? emphatically, yes. you can't play regular season hockey and expect to win in the playoffs. you have to take a hit to make a play. you have to give it all, skate harder hit harder shoot faster. they hesitate on so many shots. I heard three different pundits say the caps forwards were being too lacksidaisical. they were right. they're trying too hard. Tarik mentioned the lack of players in high traffic areas. we've seen little to no crease presence. it's not good enough. this isn't the regular season. forget any of that ever happened. it don't mean $#!t.
again, I watched nylander give up the puck to avoid a hit.
I also saw some good stuff but regardless, the third highest scoring team in the regular season got shut out. at home.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Boo: It's been a while.Good to "see" you again. I think we might be done. No secondary scoring among other things. Hope all is well.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 19, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

oo7, not saying that the regular season matters - just saying what they are capable of. They have had to adjust before when players went down and they succeeded, they can adjust now.

A start would be to stay out of the fricken box. They had to kill a few penalties the first 2 periods... that is going to wear on them and it also keeps the best player in the world off the ice.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Mark:
Awh, come on. Don't lose the faith! You've stuck by them through much worse than this. Don't ruin this beautiful reunion by being a Debbie Downer! ;-)

828:
But, but, but ... sometimes they doooo! :-X

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

As for getting in front of the net - I have seen them do it and Green or Ovechkin hit Laich right in the chest... that's not them. What ever happened to the slap passes on the PP or the back door plays - Ovechkin almost scored on that a few times in this series... just didn't get any wood on it. Alex was also all alone 10 feet from Henrik and bricked... we need to capitalize on those... not change how they play. You don't change your game plan based on the other team... you focus on what you do best and do it better.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Weird note...a espn.com "insider" article has the teaser claiming Celine Dion is going to by the Habs? Is this legit or just a really funny joke?

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

828- I don't think penalties are there problem, weak calls to sat the least. Kozlovs crosscheck was NOT a crosscheck; gomez held demons stick just like Staal did the night before vs the flyers. Semins roughing penalty was nothing compared to the crap not getting called in other series. the problem is they keep trying to play a lazy, cute, pretty, skilled passing game when they should be playing gritty, dirty, angry, violent hockey. when they finally do that, the rangers ail fall back on their heels, take penalties, the shell will break and they will suddenly have time and space to make a pretty, but appropriately timed, passshotgoal. they need to stand in the crease so henrik gets mad and can't see. they need to take the puck to the net to draw a penalty and score a dirty goal. that's how you win in the playoffs. if hue caps think they can do it differently they are going to be painfully surprised and were going to be sorely dissapointed.
again it's not rocket science, it's playoff hockey.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

not disagreeing with you - the intensity def needs to come up a few notches. All I am saying is that they don't need to reinvent the wheel to be someone different. Focus on their strengths and do it better... that's all I am saying.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

the ducks power play goal just now was a perfect example of paying the price and generating traffic.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Boo:
I'm just still smarting after the loss.Had to vent. Caps are always my team though. I love your positive attitude. Gotta hit the hay.Already past my bedtime. Always good to talk to an old friend. UTF.

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 19, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya, we're just discussing :)
it's not that they've been terrible,.
they don't have to reinvent the wheel at all, they just have to do what every team knows has to be done on the playoffs.
when nylander gave up the puck to avoid a hit, in the o zone, rather than take a hit to make a play I could have killed him. remove that crap from the lineup. I'm glad schultz is out. I don't hate him, but he can't cut it. cut the garbage loose.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Nyls icing play late in the 3rd... seriously dude, you are 4 feet from the red line with now one on you.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Anyone watching Devils Canes in OT?

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

i disagree that scoring goals during the season translates into winning in the playoffs. teams change as coaches, players, etc are brought in. approaches to the game change as the focus is on making it through a shorter period of time. i can't think of a team that didn't create traffic in front of the net and won the stanley cup.

Posted by: am_jim | April 19, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

no, I've only got sharks/ducks.
whats happening?

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Since Mark has gone nighty-night, can someone else tell me what UTF means?!? :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Devils win

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I dont want Brashear in because he's a deft skater, I want him in because he wears an A, the players respect him, he plays an uptempo, violent game and his leadership is best served in the locker room than in the press box. Leave the press box for Nylander, who plays like a shadow and gives up on almost every single play. As for Clark, screw waiting 7-10 days. THey need some on ice leader ship and some more grit and grind and Clark will be just as good on the Pk as Gordon. (I dont think Gordon is bad, but he isn't striking me as a playoff performer yet at all). The lineup needs to change. They need to be held accountable and Brashear and Clark are two guys that will do it. Clark, missing ear and all, will stand in that crease all game long.
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i can't think of a team that didn't create traffic in front of the net and won the stanley cup.

Posted by: am_jim | April 19, 2009 10:29 PM

Me neither; in fact thats how the Wings won last year. goal after goal, game after game.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

unleash the fury

Posted by: markfromparkville | April 19, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Worst GM in hockey, George Mcphee.

After ruining a decent team upon arrival and rebuilding it "his" way, the result is flawed.

People, until the GM goes the Caps won't evolve into a cup contender.
Enjoy the 100 point seasons.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

get a new act, queef. we know already.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Mark:
HA! Thanks!! :-D See - you have not given up, after all!! ;-) Sleep tight!

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

oo7, little sad ?
hehe

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

I agree with 007. We may have a lot of Euro's, but we're not the Wings by any stretch. We don't have their back line, nor do we have giant Sweeds that make a living a55 checking goalies.

Over the last 20 years, the caps have been more of a grind it out tough team. That's old time caps hockey. Its what can win in the playoffs with strong goal tending, ala '98.

We defenetly need to simplify things and go to the net. Get tougher between the wistles.

I think BB needs also to have a 1-on-1 with OV, just to help him tweak his game when he enters the zone as the lead man. He continuously tries to beat guys when he's out numbered.(1 on 2+ he tries to beat them on his onwn, negating a potential rush/setup). Granted, it created one scoring opportunity in which Kozy missed a lay up in the last game, but OV was 1-on-1, not 1-on-2+. 1-on-1 against anyone but Charra, I don't mind OVy trying to beat them.

The thing I'm most concerned about (player wise) at the moment, is Fedorov. He's our starting 2nd line Center and I can't even tell if he's playing! I don't know who else you plug in, maybe try out Nylander. Feds looks tired to me.

Looking ahead, unless things turn around, I really would like to see them try to shop around Semin. For a talent like that, we should be able to get another Center and some proven grinders with offensive upside who can score 15+ (have you seen the Pen's Kunitz?? I WANT THAT IN RED/WHITE/BLUE!), and a veteran D. Kunitz isn't the text book BIG GUY WHO CAN'T SKATE like GMGM likes, but he's a skilled grinder who almost KILLED a Flyer in todays game. Google the hit.

I know I'll get flamed probobly for mentionon Semin, but IMO he just doesn't fit what we need to win in the playoffs, but he is a talent that can command good trade value. I think if the rink was bigger, and less hitting/dirty play, he could excel. I look for him to be a force in the Olymic games. But as for our playoff needs, I don't see him being it.

Posted by: floms | April 19, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Cheef - no one is sad... just annoyed by your comments. Good to know how you feel though... maybe if you post it more, it will come true. Glad you can do something about it... makes me sleep at night.

Caps won't win until Caps fans like you are gone. Not sure if you are even a Caps fan... that's pretty sad.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

My turn to go nighty-night ... here's to a big win tomorrow night! LET'S GO CAPS!!

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 19, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Imagine that, OV needs to become a team player and Semin may not be a post season asset, wow.

It took some of you 3-4 years to figure this out.

Does anyone remember Semin missing his flight end of his rookie season ?
This guy hasn't changed, he's benefited from the "new" NHL, otherwise he'd have remained in Russia, too bad.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

no queef, I'm not sad, it's just that you're act is old. Its like watching different strokes and hearing the same catch phrase over and over. it's old and tired. if we were face to face I'd break all your fingers but you'd still type "McPhee sucks" with your tongue. enough already. you're a troll for you're own team, man. see a shrink. you need help.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

floms, I thought last year, Semin was the best player on the Caps in the post season. This year, he is alright... but which Cap has stood out? I don't think the answer is getting rid of Semin... I would say it's getting better defensemen and get a power forward... but, each game that goes by, our defense is getting better - don't care what anyone says, it is. They are young and will get better. Look at who we have on D, besides Green. Poti and Pothier are really the only real d-men we have... what exactly does that mean (you tell me). Jurcina was a pick up from Boston, Erskine was a pick up from who knows where... until he was a Cap, he barely played in the NHL. Schultz is young... same with Morrison. We don't really have our Big D-man guy.

But, none of that matters - we have who we have and we have road them this far. I'm not ready to throw in the towel.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

"he's benefited from the "new" NHL, otherwise he'd have remained in Russia, too bad."

Wait, there is a new NHL? New rules and a new game - not the same game from the 90's? It changed? Maybe you should change too Cherry. Welcome to the year 2009.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

007, breaking my fingers huh, that would be funny.
What's next, how great a player you are ?
Stay in fantasyland, much safer.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, welcome to 2009, where the most ridiculous penalties are being called all the time.

The game has taken a big step backwards by calling every little infraction, so guys like Semin don't cry and throw the puck like the little wuss he is.

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I agree w am_Jim and 007 about putting Brash in the game for his leadership violent uptempo game. And it makes the opposition think twice before taking liberties w our players since the refers aren't calling penalties on them.

Posted by: capsfan01 | April 19, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

It seems that every time things go wrong for the Caps, people always blame Semin for it (except when blaming Schultz). Granted the guy's not perfect but he's our 2nd best offensive guy and much improved over last year. He's been much better at defense this year.

People say trade Semin for Pronger, trade him for Hartnall, trade him for a bag of pucks, trade him for anyone.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 19, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

nah, you dont get rid of a guy like Semin. Semin has skills that you cant teach or learn. But, he's the finess guy on a line. He cant be with two other finesse guys. I was hoping Fedorov would come alive in the post season, but he looks like he can't keep up. NYlander only negates what ever line he's on.

Back to Semin, despite all the talent, he has to not be cute. I haven't seen semin in the crease either, what a disgusting sentence. But you can't get rid of your second leading scorer. Get rid of unproven talent, marginal talent, etc, not elite talent. Flash isn't built for the post season. I hope he proves me wrong, but between semin and flash, i'd let flash go.

Fehr aint impressing me either. I dont care about potential, I care about production and for a guy thats 6'4"... plus, every practice I see him shooting at the corners of an empty net and missing over and over. Jesus christ, there's no one in the fing net. He can't hit empty nets in practice and he hardly hits the net in the games. not a good combo.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Look at the similarities of the Sharks/Ducks series and ours. Sharks the high scoring 110+ point team and Ducks the solid defensive team with our friend Pronger, Neidermayer and Whitney. Guess who is winning and without a goaltender like Lundquist. Defense wins championships Mcphee not fancy skating Semin

Posted by: diner99 | April 19, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't quite recall Semin's performance last post-season, but if you say he was good I believe you. I just think at this juncture, we have needs for -
- skilled, but gritty center (to replace Fed)
- silled, but gritty forward to replace Kozlov

Both of them IMO are too old now to play playoff hockey.

- Veteran D.

I know the third doesn't grow on trees, but I just see Semin as the most trade worthy, that some team out there starving for a offense an a flashy forward to put fans in the seats, might give up a lot to get him.

Whatever the terms, we would need to trade to get enough players to equal or exceed his point production.

Who else could we trade worthy of quality in return?

Fehr, Flash, Schultz (who'd take him though), Erskin, Jurcina, Stechal?

We need to give something up to improve out team.


Posted by: floms | April 19, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Last I checked, San Jose's defense was pretty good.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Don't praise the Ducks just yet, Sharks are for real

Posted by: Cheef | April 19, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Semin and Backstrom getting paired together was the reason we even got back into the Flyers series last year. He needs to work on his shot accuracy and in general I'd like to see him shoot more sometimes but his ability to battle on the boards has been much better this season. I know he only scored the tying goal in Game 1 so far in 2 games so he's a total failure, clearly.

Flash actually had a decent game yesterday, but he needs to figure out ways to get his shot off, both when he has the puck and where to go to when he doesn't have the puck. Playing on a line with Circles and Fehr certainly hasn't helped his production of late. I actually thought the Semin/Feds/Flash line produced quite well for us in the short time BB had them as the #2 line.

Will be interesting to see what tomorrow's game brings and who will still be pushing their "insightful" thoughts after the fact. I look forward to finding out...

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Sharks finally break through. Anyone else think Hiller's little honeymoon is about to end brutally here for the rest of the game?

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Don't necessarily need to trade anyone - just need to sign them in the offseason. But, I agree, we need a skilled gritty forward like Richards on Philly... our 'gritty' guys like Steckel and Laich are pretty good on the defensive end, but are lacking in the offensive end. A guy like Richards seems to have it all... He doesn't have Ovechkin's talent, but will score 9 out of 10 break-aways... and will get dirty.

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

yeah, Thornton has been a playoff choker his whole career. Nothing has changed yet. The similarity is that the Sharks need to simplify. The difference is that the Ducks are playoff team at this point. They've won it all, have solid netminding, where it all starts, have a VERY solid core of blueliners, and a rugged gritty group of forwards complemented by sublime talent like Getzlaf and Selanne.

And the sharks finally score. Clowe of all people, through a screen, from the high slot. fancy that.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

yeah, dave, i think Hiller is about to let in a few more. Blood in the water...

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

am i mistaken or did we pass over Getzlaf for Fehr. Jesus that's some super scouting from our side.

Posted by: diner99 | April 19, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know what the Pens had to give up to get Kunitz and Guerin? I really can't believe GMGM didn't get anything. I know our #1 need was a d-men, but was he really content in our offense being playoff ready? Kunitz is not a 6'4" GMGM prototype, but he works his a55 off and has a lot of skill, and has the grit factor. Guerin's a proven veteran with grit and a big net presence. I can't believe we couldn't get at least one of those guys, or even more disturbing, that GMGM thought our 'o' was ready as is.

Posted by: floms | April 19, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Pens gave up Whitney for Kunitz and minor leaguer that some think has a lot of upside. They gave up a conditional 5th round pick for Guerin that could turn into a 3rd round pick if they win a playoff series I believe.

San Jose had 2 picks before the Ducks picked Getzlaf that year, it's not like we were the only one who didn't pick up on him. Fehr just hasn't done it at the NHL level. His injuries haven't helped.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Getzlaf/Fehr: it wasn't scouting, it was McPhee wanting to 'get his guy' when he should have taken the lay up. Getzlaf got a bad break and some dumb/bad canadian press for having a little attitude problem and watching hisproduction fall off in the second half of the season, draft year. Caps came up, picked Fehr, I cursed loudly, and the ducks quacked in.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Zetterberg was selected by the Detroit Red Wings 210th overall in the seventh round of the 1999 NHL Entry Draft.

Guess all of the NHL teams scouting departments suck...

Posted by: _828 | April 19, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Hiller looks pretty good to me.

Posted by: diner99 | April 19, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

The Sharks are for real every year until they lose.

Posted by: spacecadetkid | April 19, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Sharks are definitely missing some chances though...missed opportunity to pounce on him after he finally gave one up. When I say missing some chances I mean they should be burying at least 1 or 2 of these chances, much like Kozlov missing the net completely on that rebound yesterday. Hiller is solid, but Ducks are flailing around in their zone right now SJ is buzzing.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

some history on the ducks and the way Burke built them: http://mirtle.blogspot.com/2007/06/burke-deserves-credit-how-ducks-gm.html

See any similarities?

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

i find the parallel similarities in the two series ours and the sharks pretty interesting. The high scoring team being shut down by an effective game plan

Posted by: diner99 | April 19, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

The Sharks have choked in the playoffs every year for 5 years. This was meant to be their year...

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

...but they drew the ducks. rotten luck. Like the Caps getting Philly last year instead of Ottawa and NY this year instead of Montreal.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

@diner99

Don't really see that similarity...we put 3 behind Lunq in Game 1 and our goalie let us down. We got shutout yesterday but that's going to happen with a hot goalie and missing some open chances yourself. Saying we're getting shut down seems like placing too much emphasis on Game 2.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Wow Nylander was just out there for the Ducks. He passed it to Fehr too missed the open chance.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 19, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Nabakov just saved his team with that save.

Posted by: oo7 | April 19, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

no worries,everybody relax.the caps are gonna win the next four in a row and win this thang!lets all have some faith in our caps.LETS GO CAPS!!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | April 19, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

You know, I was just thinking it's kinda funny the similar circumstances between the Caps and Sharks so far in the playoffs. I don't generally stay up for west coast games so I've seen virtually nothing of the Sharks before their game 1 v. Ducks. Just based on their record though, they had to come in to the playoffs thinking they had a solid chance at a Cup. Then they get shutout in game 1. At 1st intermission of this game their coaches said it was their best period yet, and I think they're playing pretty decent too, but it's 1-1 and they're at risk of going down 0-2. I bet if the Ducks get an early 3rd period goal here, the Sharks start to press and play frustrated in the same way the Caps did in the 3rd yesterday.

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 19, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Hi guys.

Sharks/Ducks game is awesome.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 19, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

and are people bringing up freaking getzlaf and fehr AGAIN?!?!!

missed chances happen, get over it. In fact, you can go through almost every draft, and if your guy wasn't in the top 5, good chance there is someone later who is better.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

JS26121820, those are the similarities I am talking about.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

I bet if the Ducks get an early 3rd period goal here, the Sharks start to press and play frustrated in the same way the Caps did in the 3rd yesterday.

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 19, 2009 11:46 PM |

Who got that early 3rd period goal yesterday? I must have missed that.

GO DUCKS.

QUACK.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

richmondphil- haha, someone asked how fehr went first and suggested it was due to scouting. we didn't really discuss it. my bad. in my defense, getzlaf is playing right now.

amazingly, so is Claude Lemiuex. unreal.

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

I saw your comment, diner, after I entered mine so I guess I just repeated your point. It's getting late I suppose...

You can see it happening to the Sharks now. That was a horrible PP they just finished and the fired off a couple crappy wrist shots at the end just so they'd get something on net

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Similarity ends when you consider if we have Nabakov or Varly in for Game 1, our series is 1-1.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 20, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

what bothers me about semin was that even on the penalty kill he is trying to stick handle out of the zone instead of just hammering down the ice which led to another ranger scoring chance on the power play. It's irresponsible penalty killing. There is no game plan on this team right now. It's every man for himself.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

No, I read your comments. Your Zetterberg comment basically says the same thing I said; missed chances happen.

This game has been real intense, a good followup after the great VAN/STL game.

Have I mentioned how much I love playoff hockey?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

richmondphil, I just meant that if the Sharks gave up the early goal they'd be down 1 goal and 1 game like the Caps were. I'm well aware the Caps spent practically the whole game down 1 yesterday

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of missing chances...the Ducks have been missing the net entirely all of a sudden.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 20, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

I agree, Dave. It might even be 2-0 the other way as NY wouldn't have entered game 2 feeling high and the caps nervous.

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Haha, I know I am just in a jesting mood. I saw the parallel as well, and that's why I want the ducks to beat the sharks. Then we won't be the only higher seeded team to lose the first two @ home.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Yeah I remember yelling at Semin for that one as well diner yesterday...but I also have to take into account the stick lifts and clears he pulls off. That one instance was a bad play thinking he could kill more time stick-handling it out.

I think it's a bit of a generalization to say there is no game plan and it's every man for himself based on a few plays. On the whole our PK was outstanding yesterday...although I'm not sure if that was more our unit playing very well or their PP just being pretty bad (probably a combo of the 2).

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 20, 2009 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I haven't given my assessment of Varlamov, so I will now.

He looked good, a little shaky and lost at times, but solid for most of the game, and especially when he needed to be. He made a few ten-bell saves, and the goal scored is not his fault at all. I really liked that he was far out to challenge Callahan, but unfortunately even Roy has a hard time even coming close to making saves like those.

I do wish that he was tested more though.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

and the sharks have the same unfortunate playoff experiences that the Caps have. Although we have been to finals once and they have not.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

QUACK.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 20, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

there you go. Ducks take advantage and it could be 2-0 ducks.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

it looks like goalies are doing all the work in this ducks/sharks game, huh?

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

One thing I was thinking with the Caps that I haven't seen mentioned yet...I'm glad there's only one day off between games 2 and 3. I didn't like the extra day between 1 and 2. That just made game 1 linger like a stale fart for an extra 24 hours and that coupled with the early afternoon faceoff may have accounted for some of the game 2 problems, especially Ovi's off day. Not as much time to think about stuff before game 3 with only one day off and having to travel. Maybe that'll help. Or maybe I'm grasping for something, who knows.

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

oops. just as I hit submit, luck and ebbit got together.

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Hasn't the Heineken beer closet commercial just about run its course?

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Thornton: Soft in playoffs
Marleau: Soft in playoffs
Cheechoo: holding his stick too tight
Hot Confident Goaltender

Ducks blocking shots like Rags. This is like watching our series with different unis

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

diner, agreed except I wouldn't equate Hiller and Lundqvist just yet

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

JS, I think you're right about the time off and 1 pm game.
phil- I noticed that varlamovs rebound control was WAY better than the other times we've seen him. looks like prior has been getting through to jim, huh?

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Actually, maybe Varly can play the Hiller role and steal a couple for us at MSG. I didn't see anything from him yesterday that discouraged me

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

JS26121820

a few more times, that commercial still does it for me :p

Posted by: mauree | April 20, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

The Sharks are shaking their heads. They are getting frustrated by Hiller.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Team toughness, Sharks & Caps should take lessons.

Posted by: Cheef | April 20, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

OK, Ducks! It's not just us!!

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Looks like we are not the only team to loose both games in our barn. I'm sure Ted will mention that on Ted's Take tomorrow.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

What was that about Cheechoo?

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Not over yet, Sharks are for real.
You people think they are similar to Caps ? ha

Posted by: Cheef | April 20, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

sharks aren't generating any traffic. ducks are. there's the difference. and one more goal with net presence as well as secondary scoring. Jesus I hope someone shows the caps this game.

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

How bad did the Caps get beat by the Sharks ?

Posted by: Cheef | April 20, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

cheechoo crashes the net. man.

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

The Sharks are tons better after the Cheechoo goal. Amazing what one goal can do for you. They may yet tie this thing. Can't stress enough the importance of first goal tomorrow night to loosen up the Caps

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Caps scored first in game 1, what's your point ?

Posted by: Cheef | April 20, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

I never thought I'd see a color analyst quote Metallica

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

And a lucky post saves the Ducks lead for now. Clearly the series is over because of a few inches.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 20, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

whatchoo talkin bout, Willis?

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

the ducks give up the body and get in front of shots. they are giving it their all

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

and Getzlaf is a beast

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

And a post announcers...sometimes the breaks go a team's way too.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 20, 2009 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Thornton is so soft in the playoffs. Now I wonder if the Bruins fans are not happy with that trade. He's a scoring machine in the regular season with time and space but take it away and he disappears.

Posted by: diner99 | April 20, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

"sharks are for real"
right again, huh willis?

Posted by: oo7 | April 20, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Compared to say the Caps, absolutely.

Go Slugo.
GM picked Hanlon over Carlyle.

Add that to the idiot's list of mistakes.

Posted by: Cheef | April 20, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

Oh well, at least we're in a better spot than the Blues and Habs. Time for bed and here's to a better night tomorrow

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 20, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Habs at least get to play on home ice, I'd say they're still in better shape than the Caps, for now.

Posted by: Cheef | April 20, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Wow, what a great night of playoff hockey! What a fun and intense game between the Ducks and the Sharks. While I can see a similarity between the Sharks predicament and our's (top scoring, top power play, all being stymied by most part by lower seed...two losses at home...)the glaring difference in that predicament is that IMO the Ducks are a waaaaaay better team all around than the Rangers. I think both teams (Caps and Sharks) are talented enough to solve their problems, I just think the Sharks may have a much harder time at this point.

On another issue, who here is completely embarrassed by Mike Wise's latest "Miracle" article??! Honestly, who is letting this guy write anything about the Caps team? Sure, the Caps are not too hot right now, we all know that....but he started these pieces (the one on Theo leading up to first playoff game) before the first playoff puck was even dropped for the Caps. Maybe he is just trying to be funny, controversial or sarcastic (I do not know his style as generally I do not follow other sports outside of hockey), but his latest piece would fit perfectly in the New York Times or what not. That was just a completely ridiculous analogy comparing the Ranger's team to the Miracle on ice team to begin with (they were truly something special!), and how he kept on repeating that he is only drawing these comparisons because it was an "off day" does not make it any better in my books.

I do not care if the Caps get swept by the Rangers, that piece of junk journalism does not belong in your home team's newspaper....period!

Ugh, just had to get that off my chest.

Here's to Caps turning things around tomorrow!

GO CAPS!

Posted by: The_Stanley_Caps | April 20, 2009 1:25 AM | Report abuse

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