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Boudreau: 'We Did a Lot of Good Things'

Here are some other notes from today's practice:

If you were among those who came to KCI hoping to see your favorite Caps, you probably left disappointed. Most of the big-minute players, like Alex Ovechkin, Mike Green, Alexander Semin and Brooks Laich, were given the day off to rest and recover from a high-tempo and physical Game 1.

"There's two days between games," Coach Bruce Boudreau said. "We're coming up to our 84th game. As we all know, playoff games are more intense than the regular season. So there was a lot more hitting going on than a normal game, so some guys got bumps and bruises. It's better to take the day off. They'll all be on the ice for practice tomorrow."

Just One Game
At least that's how Boudreau and his players are looking at last night's 4-3 series-opening loss to the Rangers.

"It's a loss in the loss column, but with seven minutes to go, it was a tied game," Boudreau said. "It's not like it was a 5-1 game and we were outclassed and we weren't ready. We were ready and we did a lot of good things. And we want to build on those things."

Changes Coming?
Boudreau was mum on his plans for a Game 2 starter. He was just as cryptic when he was asked about whether Chris Clark, Brian Pothier or Donald Brashear would play on Saturday.

On Clark, Boudreau said: "I'll sit down with the coaches and consider everybody and see what would be the best fit. Chris Clark is always in that [discussion]. Even though I thought our forwards were pretty good. It's hard to sit and look and say, 'Which forward would you take out to make our team better right now?' I don't know.

On Pothier: "We have seven NHL defensemen and we have to pick one to sit out. Everybody else had played 70 games. Brian had played nine games in 14 months. He was just getting into the pace [of the regular season], let alone now upping that pace. That was the decision on the first game."

Brashear, meantime, remains available to play and warmed up before last night's game as if he were going to. But he didn't suit up and it's unclear if he'll get in on Saturday.

Quotable
Boudreau on the delay of game/puck over glass penalty: "It's a crappy rule. It is. Players don't try to do that on purpose. It's an accident."

Quotable, Part 2
New York Coach John Tortorella on whether his team has gotten into the Caps' heads: "You know, I'm not worried about their heads. I'm worried about our heads. You'd have to ask Bruce that. That's his club and I don't like coaching the other team. I have enough problems with our club. We're just worried about keeping our heads on straight."

Ratings Up
From Comcast SportsNet: "Coverage of last night's Capitals-Rangers first-round Stanley Cup playoff game delivered a 3.3 household rating, reaching approximately 76,000 households, in the Washington, D.C. market, topping all other national and local cable sports networks for the evening including ESPN and MASN. CSN's Caps audience peaked during the 9:30-9:45 p.m. quarter hour when approximately 105,800 households (a 4.6 rating) tuned in. Last night's game posted a 4.5 average household rating in the critical advertising demographic of men aged 18-49."

Drury Update
Rangers captain Chris Drury remains day-to-day with an undisclosed injury. He took warm-ups last night, but left the ice early and did not suit up.

"Every day gets a little better," he told reporters. "I was preparing as if I was playing. I didn't want to get caught thinking the other way and end up playing. I'll just do the same thing again; get ready and see what happens."

That's it for now.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  April 16, 2009; 3:09 PM ET
 
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Comments

Ranger blogs seem to concede that Drury will be dressed.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Let's unleash something on Saturday - "the fury" or whatever you want to call it. Everyone needs to show up ready to play (except Schultz and his jock!).

Let's go CAPS!!!

Posted by: cfrazier91 | April 16, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

So who will play on Saturday? While Clark is cleared to play, is he yet 100%? I like the guy but don't want to rush him back and have him get reinjured.

I'd say, we're better off with our other guys than Brash. He was good for us but wonder if his days are numbered.

I'd almost rather give Simeon (or Semyon as he'd probably prefer) the start at Verizon instead of at MSG when down two games to none. Or should we start Theo and hope he gets his confidence back.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 16, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Do you have something to say?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

No Sir.

Posted by: mikebrady1 | April 16, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

It seems the Caps probably play better when somewhat of an underdog. And now by being down by a game, they're now an underdog and will be hungry.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 16, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Please sit Schultz....That is all I ask.

Posted by: numero94 | April 16, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Put Leonsis in net.

Posted by: SA-Town | April 16, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

"We were ready and we did a lot of good things. And we want to build on those things" -- BB.

Tarik, two simple words in replay would have been great: "SUCH AS?".

Posted by: opita1 | April 16, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Leonsis?

Put Stretch in net if anybody.

First team to win a Cup with their web designer in net?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

reply, reply - oh my crummy typing is going to get me in trouble with the spelling patrol.

Posted by: opita1 | April 16, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

@opita

I surely hope you aren't denying that we played a good game.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

reply, reply - oh my crummy typing is going to get me in trouble with the spelling patrol.

Posted by: opita1 | April 16, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm keeping my eye on you opita1.

Posted by: Spelling_Patrol | April 16, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Of course there were good things. Faceoffs, hits, shots... I think we outplayed the Rangers in almost every way last night. We should keep building on those positives, and if our goalie stops being a sieve and our defensemen stop falling down at inconvenient times, we'll win this series.

Posted by: capsfan26 | April 16, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Not saying they were all his fault or that he's a bad guy or anything, but Theo has GOT to make at least two of those saves - if you score 3 goals in a playoff game you really should win. I like Theo but c'mon.

Also, Pothier has got to be on the ice - the Rangers' forwards don't have much overall team speed but you sure wouldn't have been able to tell that last night. Also with #2 out there you can keep Feds centering Semin, which needs to happen - you need 2 scoring lines in the playoffs (see Bruins, Boston last 30 yrs. for what happens when you don't).

Posted by: govtimbo | April 16, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Massive hits, good defense barring the tumble, a great power play, good passing, no fancy stuff, three goals on Henrik, coming from behind, secondary scoring.....

Need more?

Bads: goaltending in last night's game.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

numero94: No, they love Schultz too much. They obviously see something in him that all of us just aren't able to see. It's kinda scary that Schultz was picked earlier than Greenie. What the does this organization see in Jeff Schultz?! Someone made a great reference last night after the game, that he is like a tree stump. He does not skate well, he's incredibly slow, he doesn't use his size to his advantage, he doesn't hit. When have we EVER seen Schultz lay the body? Have we ever seen him deal a crushing hit on somebody? Nope. I felt so bad for him, that was really embarrasing, what Brandon Dubinsky did to him. That was humiliating. Maybe they should not give him a jersey and save him some embarrasment, this guy cannot play any defense.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Actually, the Rangers are very fast team up front.

And govtimbo is right, Theo should have stopped at least one the two softer goals.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

He spelled a right word in the process, so technically this is the Grammar Police's jurisdiction. :)

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Richmondphil

he is.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 16, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"and if our goalie stops being a sieve and our defensemen stop falling down at inconvenient times, we'll win this series."

For this team, that's two pretty big "IFs."

Posted by: VTDuffman | April 16, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

@rachel, saying that "Shultz was picked before Green" is silly. I think there were 18 or 19 players picked before Green and about 15 of them have amounted to nothing so far. Green wasn't a lottery pick that only the Caps knew about - he was a late first-round, as was Shultz. Also, Mike Green doesn't actually play defense. I love Green for what he is but his defensive ability is not as good as Schultz.

I'll wait for the ire to rise. But just in case, I'll repeat: Green's defense is no better than Schultz. I'll take Green any day on my team but not if I need an actual defensive player. He's not there yet.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Richmondphil, I saw a good fast game, no denying that, I think 5 on 5 the Caps are ok. Although I don't like their shot selection, too many shots from downtown with no one near the goal line for a lucky rebound. As I have posted before, the PP is too predictable and the passing lanes are porous - an invitation for shorthanded goals. I think Theo has been left to dry, on top of him having a bad game. BB has to change the PP, people who think it is strong are living on skewed stats.

I am going to get crucified for saying these things, but I am really a Caps fan, and I am not panicking, at least not until they lose 4 out of 7, and then it will be too late.

I also think the Rangers played a very good game, their players shadowed the Caps extremely well. Torts is a very good coach.

Posted by: opita1 | April 16, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

if schultz is in the line-up saturday, i'm selling my playoff ticket for game 5. i'm not going to pay good money to watch a guy who probably isn't manly enough to skate with the ice capades.

Posted by: dingram3 | April 16, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

The PP was 2 for 7 last night - 28+% - against the #1 PK in the league. How is that skewed? How can a sample rate of 82 games against the league be skewed? Who's PP stats aren't skewed, by your definition? The PP was dominant last night. If you are going to address the PP as a weakness then you're pretty dire.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Here's another positive thing: I thought Erskine did a pretty good job covering Avery last night.

Also, this wasn't a Caps positive, but the linesman tackling Avery to the ice in front of the Caps' net in the third period was awesome.

Posted by: capsfan26 | April 16, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

@dingram3. I'll buy your ticket for the season ticket price, take it off you hands. Where do you sit? Once we see the starters I'll pop over and grab it.

Thanks

Very generous of you.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

saintex, also bad, they let people in 30 minutes early, but none of the concession stands seemed ready for it.

Posted by: koalatek | April 16, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Like I said saintex, the only problem I see in having a 2/7 PP is the lack of scoring chances even strength after the 1st period.

We should be worried more so about our PK. 2/4 is not good...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

@dingram3

At least you're optimistic about our chances of not getting swept! ;)

Posted by: capsfan26 | April 16, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

@Dingham

I will also be interested in the game 5 ticket. I was going to get 2 off stubhub anyway, but if you want to help me out and are legitimately not going, shoot me an email;

freemandp@vcu.edu

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I don't see anything wrong with a 2/7 PP. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. I'll like more 5-on-5 goals but what does one have to the with other? I don't care if we score three PP goals and nothing else - the point is geting it in the net, by whatever means.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Isn't part of the reason teams are often on the PP because they are outskating the other team, getting hooked, interference calls, etc.? Sure, you have delay of game but I think all the PPs last night were because the Rangers had to react to getting beat 5-on-5 and reacting by penalty.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't see anything wrong with a 2/7 PP. Maybe I'm misunderstanding. I'll like more 5-on-5 goals but what does one have to the with other? I don't care if we score three PP goals and nothing else - the point is geting it in the net, by whatever means.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:52 PM |

Um...exactly. So if we choose to not get it done on 5on5, then we need to get it done on the PP.

28% is great, but you are telling me you are content with our PP going to work 7 times in one game and only getting 2?

If we are going to rely on our strengths, then they need to shine when we cant score any other way.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

everyone and their uncle knew that Avery was going to try something if he had a chance -- Fedorov gave him a light bump but someone should have done something. I'm so sick of watching other teams' players do whatever they want to our goalies. Last yr we didn't do anything to Hartnell and Upshall. This year we have already resigned ourselves to ignoring Avery. Why do I think that if the Flyers, Bruins or Penguins were playing NY instead it would be a very different story for Avery.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

And after the Rangers went ahead, our team was unable to generate any real offensive chances.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Saintex,
how much is one and one? is it two or eleven? I asked that question to a CPA and he responded "How much do you want it to be". That is what I think of your stats. You need to put them in context otherwise they are useless. Too long and unimportant, at least for me, to get into.

Posted by: opita1 | April 16, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"It's a loss in the loss column, but with seven minutes to go, it was a tied game," Boudreau said. "It's not like it was a 5-1 game and we were outclassed and we weren't ready. We were ready and we did a lot of good things. And we want to build on those things."

hello bruce, you're the favorites remember? Quit talking like we're the underdogs. Don't lower the bar.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Even though the PP was 28% last night, when you get 7 power plays, you need to convert more than twice.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I will clarify. I am not saying our PP had problems, but we REALLY needed it to click last night when we were not scoring 5on5.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I'll wait for the ire to rise. But just in case, I'll repeat: Green's defense is no better than Schultz. I'll take Green any day on my team but not if I need an actual defensive player. He's not there yet.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse


no ire here because I haven't been giving Green much love for his defense. But he can step it up when he has to, unlike Schultz. Green has been playing a pretty good defensive game the last month. He's been in better position and he's been much more physical. He used to go 3 or 4 games in a row with no physical contact. Now he has one or two big hits every game.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

"Isn't part of the reason teams are often on the PP because they are outskating the other team, getting hooked, interference calls, etc.?" Saintex

That is true, but not the only reason. Besides the argument is not how we get the power play, but what we do during the power play. In my opinion, except for lucky goals, it stinks, it is predictable. But that is only my opinion and you obviously don't share it. That is fine.

Posted by: opita1 | April 16, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I am happy with 2 for 7. The PP was very good last night and was much closer to going 3 or 4 for 7 than it was 1 for 7. Part of the reason we are on the PP is because of the 5-on-5 play. I'll take 28% for the series if we get 5 more shots each game - that' 8 or 9 more goals if it were to go seven games.

I also don't think anyone is choosing not to get it done 5-on-5; The Rangers are a very good defensive team.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Avery really didn't do anything. He whacked Theo's glove and chirped around. There was a scrum afterwards in Theo's defense.

Do you expect there to be a fight or something everytime?

Avery was a non-factor, in terms of his pest hood. He did play a good game though.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Green's lazy sometimes on D. Schultz is a big baby, therein lies the difference. If you start taking runs at Green, he'll respond. Schultz will go look for a cave to hide in

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

@opita, I'll say it, you're nuts. Did you watch the game? The puck was in the zone for almost the entire two minutes on at least 4 or 5 of the PPs? I don't care if it's predicatable or not; if it's so predicatable then why did the best PK team in the league give up twice their average?

Every PP in the league is predicatable. Although I remember that time when some team didn't have two players at point, two down low, and one working the crease area. They tried four on point and one behind their own goalie.

Yes, I know that was snarky, but give it a break.

It's too bad that our lucky, stinky, PP was second in the league. I guess the Red Wings are awesome and the other 29 teams are lucky and stinky, also.

Geez.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I think the biggest difference between Green and Schultz from a defensive standpoint is speed. Green is fast and can scramble back and catch opposing players; Schultz is terribly slow and lets people get by him even when he's already back. And Green keeps improving defensively - albeit with occasional lapses - but I haven't seen much improvement from Schultz.

Posted by: capsfan26 | April 16, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Green has amazing balance as well. As I have stated numerous times, one of the core problems with the Caps this year seems to be the inability for players to carry the puck across the blue line.

Green does this very well, but as a defense man, we really don't want him to be the one to carry the puck into the Offensive zone.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The highest % PP in the NHL is Detroit's at 25.5%. 28.6% is a lot better than that. I liked our play on PP. I even liked it on 5v5. I thought we controlled the puck very nicely.

I thought that we need someone to stand in front of Lundy more a la Avery except without the stupidity. Schultz caused 2 goals last night. One on his epic fall, the other when he screened JT going through the crease on PK.

We HAVE to have traffic in front. We've been saying it all year. It still holds true. If a goalie can see the puck chances are good he'll block it.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 16, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"It's not like it was a 5-1 game and we were outclassed and we weren't ready. We were ready and we did a lot of good things. And we want to build on those things."

It obviously wasn't good enough. As far as I know, we didn't win, and that was the only thing that mattered. What's the point of picking out good things that we did when we didn't win? Seems like BB is letting them off the hook by saying they played well and it's all good.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton, I don't care if Schultz is a big baby and Mike Green is the dang Hulk: Green's defense isn't any better. Just because his response is to hit someone, cuss them out, score a goal, or anything else, doesn't make his actual defensive abilities any stronger. I think both players will grow to be better defenders - they are both young - and that seems to be position that takes the longest to mature into.

Mabye Green is a better defender because he sells more jerseys.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Avery really didn't do anything. He whacked Theo's glove and chirped around. There was a scrum afterwards in Theo's defense.

Do you expect there to be a fight or something everytime?

Avery was a non-factor, in terms of his pest hood. He did play a good game though.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:02 PM

you don't get the symbolic nature of that do you
He did it at the end of a game where the Rangers were already winning. He did that to rub our noses in it. He's not going to take a blatant penalty and give us a PP. What he did by doing that was to say, we won this game, I didn't get an opportunity to really get under your goalie's skin, so I'm putting you on notice that I'm still here, not going anywhere, and I'll continue to be here.

Avery could easily have just not done that. The Rags had the game won. He knows its a series, not one game and he wants to let the goalie know he'll be a presence around him at some point.

Last yr the Flyers did the same thing, and we let them get away with it. This yr, repeat.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Wait, are you serious saintex?

It seems the only people in the world who think Green is either; a) the best D man ever or b) the worst D man ever are caps fans.

Offensive upside aside, Green makes far less defensive mistakes than Schultz. He also plays far more minutes.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton, I don't care if Schultz is a big baby and Mike Green is the dang Hulk: Green's defense isn't any better. Just because his response is to hit someone, cuss them out, score a goal, or anything else, doesn't make his actual defensive abilities any stronger. I think both players will grow to be better defenders - they are both young - and that seems to be position that takes the longest to mature into.

Mabye Green is a better defender because he sells more jerseys.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:08 PM

you're completely off. Green skates way better, his recovery is way better, the reason he's out of position and gets caught up ice is he takes too many chances offensively. Schultz takes NO chances and is still out of position. See the difference? One is a risk taker, the other is just plain bad. Meaning, you can fix one, you can't fix the other.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Schultz is that he is a finesse defender without any speed. If anyone was watching what the Rangers were doing to Laich and Fehr in front of Lunqvuist when we were on the PP, it was just short of assualt and battery. Contrasting that with Schultz's work on the Rangers in the crease -- light, excuse me taps with his stick -- was a painful sight. He could be okay in the right setting as a 6th defenseman on a team with good goaltending and backchecking, but that is NOT us right now!!

Posted by: SoCalCAPSFAN | April 16, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Our PP needs some polishing: too many shots from the perimeter, lazy passing at times, not enough traffic in front of the net.

Posted by: doughless | April 16, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

@rachel216

It's called positive reinforcement. You can't lose sight of the good things simply because there were also bad things. It's just as important to keep doing those things well as it is to fix the problems; if you fix the problems but start to lapse in other areas, you're still going to lose.

Posted by: capsfan26 | April 16, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

It obviously wasn't good enough. As far as I know, we didn't win, and that was the only thing that mattered. What's the point of picking out good things that we did when we didn't win? Seems like BB is letting them off the hook by saying they played well and it's all good.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

He is totally letting them off the hook. Torts is probably chewing his players out and pointing out their mistakes after a win, Bruce is doing the opposite.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Schultz falling down was comical but the real problem on that play was Theo. I'm a Theo supporter but once Schultz went down the second rusher was covered by the other defenseman, as they are trained, and Theo had a clear view of a shot from, what?, 25 feet? He needs to stop that, plain and simple. We can laugh at Schultz all night but that was low-rent goaltending on that play.

As for Green, we can talk defensive speed all day long but he pinches down so often in all situations and fairly routinely fails to hold the puck at point, that he's given up way more breakaways this season than anyone. He can speed back all day but we'll still get burned. A parallel, for baseball fans, is Jim Edmonds. He made some spectacular plays but the reason they looked so great - and we saw then ALL the time - is because he was almost always out of position.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone have any specific opinions on the 3rd and 4th line forwards? I didn't think Gordo looked too hot, and Nylander and Fehr were sort of invisible at times, but I'm not sure I would replace any of them with Clark or Brashear for a host or reasons. Generally, though, I thought the forwards looked ok.

As for the PP, it was ok, not great. 2 of 7 against a great PK is acceptable, and a few of them really hummed even if they didn't score. At least one was a complete diaster. The thing that struck me was some less than crisp passing. I saw a bunch of passes that had to be corraled, kicked from the blades or caught on a bounce. It might have been the ice, might have been nerves, might have been the Rags D. Something to watch for as the series progresses.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | April 16, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Suggestion for those fortunate enough to have tickets to Saturday's game.

Take a paper bag with you, big enough to go over your head. Cut out two holes for your eyes, and right below that, paint the number 55 with bold strokes. Everytime Jeff Schmuck gets on the ice, put on the bag. It'll eventually get on TV, and maybe someone will get the message. And the closer you set to where McPhee and Leonsis are sitting, the better.

Posted by: bucknelldad | April 16, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Avery performing some "symbolic display of pesthood" was to remind us that he was still here? Avery was a non-factor in the pest department because he decided to play hockey. I also spot a huge contradiction in your assessment about Avery. Earlier you said it is his job to draw penalties, but now you are saying that we should have drawn a penalty in retaliation to his pest moves? With a minute left, down by 1? Um...okay.

And as I have already asked you, we were down by 1. Do you really think it would've been smart at all to react to Avery in any other way? Did you even watch the PHI/PIT game? Do you know how many times their goalie got ran and then nothing really happened, minus the 3rd period?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"the reason he's out of position and gets caught up ice is he takes too many chances offensively."

That is the point. I take the poor defense with the great offense of Green - that's part of the deal and I'm happy with it.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree with opita1. The PP was not good enough, and like Phil said, when we are struggling 5-on-5, it's absolutely a must to score on at least 4 of the 7 PPs. There was way too much passing, making it easy for the Rangers to intercept and fire it down the ice. They continued to pass the puck across the ice laterally, Brooks Laich on one side of the ice trying to get the puck to Ovie, on the other side of the ice. They forced the puck to Ovie and everytime the pass was deflected by a Ranger in front. There were at least 5 times someone tried to "thread the needle" between all the Rangers players in the middle.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Also, Flyers were the chippy ones and still lost.

Things happen, it's not as clear-cut as you want to make it.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Saintex,
We obviously disagree, and yes I did watch the game and my postings are based on what I saw. I wish there was a way that we could establish a fans club where we all could review the game tape so that we could understand what each other is talking about, alas, it is not there.
I don't particular like the stats they are skewed - I wish I could explain what I mean but it will take too long and it is not worth it. But since you like stats, aren't the Capitals not one of the worst five teams to give up short-handed goals? I think they are, a stat that does not show on your computations.

Posted by: opita1 | April 16, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

28% and "humming" against the #1 PK unit in the league.

"I didn't care for the backhand that Nicky misfired at the 1:28 mark of the third penalty..."

"I think Ovi's slapper should not have need a deflection by Flash..."

"I didn't like the dump-and-chase that set up Semin's goal..."

"We should have 13 players on the ice during the PP..."

Our goaltending was miserable last night - and I know we've beat that to death already - but the critiques of the PP amaze me.

I didn't like BB's tie.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

oldtimehockey, about the 3rd and 4th lines, they didn't really stand out except for that one time Nylander took his sweet time getting onside and Flash? brought the puck in and Nyls was still at the dots.

Posted by: koalatek | April 16, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

What amazes me more is your assessment about Green.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

rachel216

Please name a team in the history of the NHL that gets a 50% PP. maybe in 1 or 2 games, but come on! Be real.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 16, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The Caps give up a ton of short-handed goals that aren't reflected in "my stats". But, if you aren't going to take the PP for what it was last night, and it didn't give up an short-handed goals, then you can't backtrack to the entire season and use that number as supporting evidence. I'm only using the 2/7 last night - and I'll take that every single game.

We won't agree, and that's cool. It's funny what different fans see when at the game. I actually like your idea of a viewing party, or two, during the season. I think the Caps should set it up and let a bunch of us show up, yell at each other, and then have the coaches give a little insight into why, or why not, we are effing whackjobs.

It's sort of like the police brining in the eyewitness - ten people, ten different stories.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

@richmond,

My Green salvo was to make a point about purely defensive skills on the ice. I'm sure the Caps track the numbers for what players contribute to defensive breakdowns most often and I'm guessing those numbers might surprise us. Green's offensive ability certainly offsets some weaknesses, but on a purely defensive level, he has a long ways to go.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

opita1: I think when you mean skewed you mean the percentage of the PP can be around the same but the chances and times converted could be different??

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

He is totally letting them off the hook. Torts is probably chewing his players out and pointing out their mistakes after a win, Bruce is doing the opposite.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:12 PM
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Just because Bruce said nicey-nice things to Tarik and the media doesn't mean he wasn't chewing their butts in the locker room last night, or tomorrow in the video session. BB was probably up all night looking at films and will make corrections/adjustments as he sees necessary.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

As far as I could tell there were 2 players last night that didn't rise to the occasion; Schultz and JT. Everyone else played hard and good. I didn't see any lazy penalties. Missed assignments happen, but the ones we got shouldn't have been an issue.

Posted by: Greg S. | April 16, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I have no complaints about our PP. I'm not saying that they were too cute, or pass to much, or too predictable or any of that.

I am saying that only converting 2 out of 7 chances is not all that great, given how we dominated the flow of the game.

Philly was 1/9 though, So i shouldn't be complaining. I probably am just because the game was close.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

where's the meanness you need in the playoffs from half our players? I'm watching 6ft3 Eric Fehr skate around like he's holding a carton of eggs that he's afraid to break. Contrast that with Ryan Callahan who's 5 inches shorter and hurling himself into every check and causing turnovers. Callahan took a big hit from Mo and without missing a beat dusted himself off, got back in the play and the Rags scored

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

My Green salvo was to make a point about purely defensive skills on the ice. I'm sure the Caps track the numbers for what players contribute to defensive breakdowns most often and I'm guessing those numbers might surprise us. Green's offensive ability certainly offsets some weaknesses, but on a purely defensive level, he has a long ways to go.

Posted by: saintex | April 16, 2009 4:28 PM

I agree, but you said that Green was basically the same thing as Schultz. That is what threw me off. You said he wasn't a better defender than Schultz.

Green can clear the puck, play the boards, and he actually takes the body. Green can also carry the puck through the blue line...something our forwards have trouble with (ie; the dump and chase game). He has amazing speed and balance, and honestly, I think anyone would be extremely hard-pressed to show me an offensively prone D man like Green who gets back as fast as he does.

At the start of this year, I also said that Green is incapable of playing a lick of defense, but he has considerably stepped up his game, and not just his goals.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

OldTime-- Does anyone have any specific opinions on the 3rd and 4th line forwards? I didn't think Gordo looked too hot, and Nylander and Fehr were sort of invisible at times


I thought Boyd Gordon made one good play, and was a nonfactor the rest of the time. Like most of our other "checking line" forwards, he didn't do any forechecking or work down low. Basically, we have a completely finesse 2nd and 3rd line with the exception of Laich.

no problem with Bradley, I thought Steckel could have played better.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Tess: No, we've all seen when BB is mad when he talks to the media. He's called out his players before, like when he said the best players were not playing like the best players. BB has called out his players several times for being lazy and for lack of effort. And, remember the Sabres game, he called out Sergei Federov after.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Just because Bruce said nicey-nice things to Tarik and the media doesn't mean he wasn't chewing their butts in the locker room last night, or tomorrow in the video session. BB was probably up all night looking at films and will make corrections/adjustments as he sees necessary.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 4:32 PM

why would he say nicey things to Tarik and do otherwise with his players? Usually Bruce is very upfront about how his team has played. He's never sugarcoated things in the past so why start now ?

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Fehr played an invisible game. Might as well put a red cone out there.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

And I actually appreciated Steckel's hustle. He was all over the place and had some real solid scoring chances.

Too bad he can't score.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

when you get to the playoffs you don't need half your forwards skating away from finishing checks or trying to play a perimeter game when the action needs to happen in the crease. Look at how Kozlov went to the net and scored. I saw Nylander, Fehr, Gordo, Fedorov peel away from check after check and stay away from the front of the net. Those guys didn't want to pay a price.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

In the regular season you can get away with some of your players not showing up once in a while. These here are the playoffs. If this team doesn't want it bad enough then they don't deserve it. And that has zero to do with our goaltending.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Caps as a whole need to toughen up.

Posted by: doughless | April 16, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Come on people, haven't you ever heard of positive reinforcement? Theo and Schultz know that they sucked last night, and BB hasn't minimized that. But in many respects the Caps outplayed the Rangers, and it's important for them to go out there on Saturday and do the same things right that they did right last night. And anyway, praising the positives and correcting the negatives aren't mutually exclusive.

Posted by: capsfan26 | April 16, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

yes, Rachel, he has called out players in public in the past. And he didn't this time. But that doesn't mean he didn't let them have it privately. You or I or Tarik don't sit it on the video meetings, so we don't know what Bruce is saying to the guys in there. But not much gets by him, so if there's problems to work on I'm sure he's doing it.

Bruce spent 2 1/2 years in Hershey before he came to Washington. He took us through two Calder Cup runs...one where we won it all and one where we lost in the finals. And among all those playoff games there were terrific games and there were some real stinkers, but Bruce seemed to know what buttons to push to get the guys back on track.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Opita--Although I don't like their shot selection, too many shots from downtown with no one near the goal line for a lucky rebound. As I have posted before, the PP is too predictable and the passing lanes are porous - an invitation for shorthanded goals. I think Theo has been left to dry, on top of him having a bad game. BB has to change the PP, people who think it is strong are living on skewed stats.


agreed. This PP gives up too many shortie chances and when they get away from creating traffic in the crease, wheh they get away from working the corners to get the puck back, thats when they aren't effective. The Rangers were more than content to let the Caps pass it around in their zone, we couldn't get much through their box.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Tess, do you think its acceptable for any team to simply sleep through the 2nd period of a hockey game? Did you not see the intensity drop right off the radar when the 2nd pd started? The Rangers played a smart simple game. They're not going to get into a run and gun game with us. They knew we'd come out fired up, they withstood our barrage in the 1st pd and simply turned things up while we tuned it down.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know the last 8th seed to win a cup by chance?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

cstanton:
I'm not saying it was a good game. The second period was horrendous. Not playing a full 60 minutes has been a problem too many times. But just because Bruce isn't ranting to the press doesn't mean he's in denial of the problem.

Sorry, but I'm not ready to join all of you on the ledge.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

ah, we're losing perspective a wee bit.

PP: 2/7, 28% against the #1 PK? I'll take it happily. I understand your meaning, Phil (not singling you out, just continuing our ongoing conversations), but 2 of 7 against NY is stellar. The only problem I saw on the PP were a couple obvious passes that NY read well because they've watched hundreds of PP videos in the last week. NY is too good to try to pass across the crease like that (19 to 8). They're looking for 19 to 8 and 28 to 52. Those are the goal shakers/game breakers.

THe only line that was off, in my estimation, was 14/92/16. Again, Nylander shouldn't get a sweater. Put Aucoin in, put Gordon there, put the concession stand lady from 106 thats always smiling. Just don't put 92 in. If 16 and 14 got the puck they'd have a chance to do something.

Avery: Erskine plastered him a few times. He's gonna do his thing. He's gonna talk. SO what. Its up to the refs, and they have him on a short leash. When need be, break the rule and beat him down. Not much fighting in the playoffs but Avery is on the top line often and has great skill. 5 minutes off the ice is good for the Caps.

D: Erskine is in it to win, folks. He's gotten the message loud and clear and since his return has been the best defenseman not named Green. Mo was good too, Jurcina did nothing stupid but nothing fantastic (fine). Poti...meh.

All in all, there is a LOT to build off of. Again, 3 goals against Henrik is not too shabby. Take out the guys holding the team back and all should be good. Henrik can only stop so many shots. Eventually, they'll take one penalty too many.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Good analysis, oo7.

Perspective is definitely in short supply here. The sky is not falling just yet.

Posted by: capsfan26 | April 16, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

oo7: But we need more than 3 goals, cause Theo will give up more than 3.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

And speaking of Hershey (well, at least I was) they start their playoffs tonight at Philly. Yes, I said AT Philly. The number 1 team in the eastern conference has to play their first two games on the road because friggin' Disney On Ice is at Giant Center this week. How's that for being screwed by your own organization?

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

oo7: But we need more than 3 goals, cause Theo will give up more than 3.

Posted by: rachel216

And there in lies the problem.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

About Avery. I just don't get it. We did exactly what we are supposed to do against him and not retaliate. He didn't draw any penalties. Cstanton says that Avery's poke at Theo's glove was to "give us a message" but I doubt that. I'm sure he intended to draw a penalty from it so we had no chance of tying it up. We did the right thing in pushing him away without drawing the penalty. Avery as a pest was a non-factor. Avery as a hockey player played a very, very good game against us.

About the PP, Like I said I see no problems in how we execute our PP, my only problem is that in a game so close, we just NEED to convert. bottomline. If we went 2/2 and got another PP and we were still tied, I would still be saying that we just needed to convert on that last one.

D assessments. Seem to all agree with mine. Poti and Schultz were pretty bad, Jurcina was okay. I thought Mo and Erskine both played good games. Green is Green.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

@ saintex
You said of Green >>He's not there yet.

That's certainly not the difference between Green and Schultz. I've defended (ha!) Schultz in this room: I think his zen-clouseau disruption of opposing offenses has value, and I'm mindful he's young/cheeep.
But 55's overall performance last night was mortifying. Whether he was cringing from an Easy chance to keep the puck in the rags' zone, or making snow-angels to distract Dubinsky from a breakaway, Schultz was Bad.
Course, Caps' Team D 'isnt there yet'.

Posted by: redlineblue | April 16, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

And speaking of Hershey (well, at least I was) they start their playoffs tonight at Philly. Yes, I said AT Philly. The number 1 team in the eastern conference has to play their first two games on the road because friggin' Disney On Ice is at Giant Center this week. How's that for being screwed by your own organization?

Posted by: tess2201

THAT IS A TRAVESTY! It simply should not happen. The Bears were way ahead for the majority of the season and home ice should have been expected. Thats just wrong.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Just like Schultz needed to not fall down on Dubinsky's goal, our PP needed another one.

Get my drift?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

***************I Predict the Washington Capital's will be at the Stanley Cup FINALS.........Yup ....Section 5 seats 1-25

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

it wasnt Schultz fault ...OMG the caps had the slowest line change i have ever seen

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Um...Schultz and his partner were already back there. He just fell.

At least try a little, troll.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know which game will be on versus tonight? If anyone could tell me, that'd be great.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

jackets/wings
duckies/sharkies

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Just like Schultz needed to not fall down on Dubinsky's goal, our PP needed another one.

Get my drift?

Posted by: richmondphil

Gotcha, man. We're on the same page.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Where is SC1907 from? I thought he was a TO guy. Which, would be pretty funny because I believe Gerber's on the 15th hole by now.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | April 16, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

oldtimehockey

He's from Rat Portage

Posted by: Greg S. | April 16, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

ontario

Posted by: Greg S. | April 16, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Um...Schultz and his partner were already back there. He just fell.

At least try a little, troll.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:28 PM |
You had better watch it again Rags did a great job in transition catching the caps on a change setting up the goal

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

It was at the tail end of our powerplay. Naslund was sprung, but our defense men were still there.

I have no idea what you are trying to say, because Schultz was right there, in front of him, and fell down.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I dont sit near the glass..but if anyone can blow this up to show to Avery...that would be money.

It's a picture of the sloppy seconds couple themselves...it would be so funny.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee50/kurtenblog/elisha-cuthbert-dion-phaneuf-04.jpg

Posted by: SA-Town | April 16, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I checked for you guys Auburn Golf and Country Club has lots of tee times for you guys....FOUR!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Cstanton says that Avery's poke at Theo's glove was to "give us a message" but I doubt that. I'm sure he intended to draw a penalty from it so we had no chance of tying it up.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:05 PM

Bingo. I'm with you on that. Annoy the goalie to make someone get involved and take a roughing penalty or worse. He knows what he's doing. I hate to say it, out loud, again, but I like Avery. If he could just tone down the attitude and get a clearer picture of where the line that should not be crossed is, he'd be fine. Because he's right: who wants heroes without villains? What good is Superman without Lex? He has the skills to be that good. He's smart enough, too. But he also has a toddlers mentality; he gets caught in a behavioral loop and can't get out, and thats what leads to his troubles. The Stick waving incident last year was moronic, and he went too far. Was he wrong about french guys in visors running around and giving cheap shots, though? A study proved he wasn't. He just has no politically correct filter. In a league where there is little media fodder, Avery is easy to jump on because he's one of the few who actually give the media something to write about that will generate hits and sales. People love villains and anti-heroes. If the guy had no skills it would be easy to dismiss him, but he has them. More than enough to make it. He just likes the role of villain. I like him in that role. I'd hang out with him and have a beer and a laugh. But I'd also tell him to his face what I thought his short comings were.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

LOL.

great idea SA-Town.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil: Thanks, wish it was Bruins/Canadiens instead though.

SC: You obviously were not watching the game. Schultz and Green were both back there, in good position. Dubinsky just "broke Shultz's ankles." It was a very nifty move by Dubinsky, but maybe if a better defenseman was there, he wouldn't be tricked out like Schultz was. Please, SC, go watch the Montreal Canadiens.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Toronto, Rachel, he's a Toronto fan. And when he laughs, his head gear rattles.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Schultz is our Greenhorn, like you see on Deadliest Catch. Some of them get it and stick on, some of them never do, and in the process, screw up the whole process.

It'd be one thing if Schultz had played 15 games. It'd be unfair to kill him too much because the sample size is too small.

And yes, I know, he might improve.

But in a significant sample size now ... we haven't seen it. Forget that he fell down last night. He was clearly beaten well before that.

The only way we will know what the deal is will be if Tarik asks BB and/or GM point blank, what they see in Schultz that results in him always being in there. They consider him an NHL defenseman.

That's nice.

But the time for nice is over.

Posted by: writered21 | April 16, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Exactly, 007. If he would just play his game without all that extra stuff, he would just get that same Love/Hate relationship other goons and pests get. Love them, but hate them when they play the Caps.

Avery, unfortunately, might be too far gone for me, even if he turns into a regular Dino or Verbeek.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Rachel,
Yes, that is one way and a good point on your part, it will definitely give you a different result. Basically, my point is that the type of stats so quoted on this blog are very simple - it does not take into consideration many other factors - and it gives a weak (misleading?) result.

Posted by: opita1 | April 16, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

yeah phil, I thought the guy was done in Dallas, but he has 9 lives.
Thing is, his fashion obsession and admittance to playing with doll clothing as a kid reveals something telling: he has a strong feminine side that he tries to balance with an over the top hockey persona. He didn't make those sloppy second comments just to be maliscous. He was genuinly hurt because he realized that Cuthbert was attracted to him because he was a hockey player, a jock, his cover, and not because he was Sean Avery. He doesn't know how to deal with that stuff so he gets catty, like a woman. It's tough being Sean.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Avery did a ton of things last night - cross check Theo, hit Poti in the back with the puck after the whistle, pushed Green back into the Rangers bench (interference), trip Green which led to Gomez's goal, etc. If the NHL is not going to call things like that, then they support it. Avery is def trying to get into people's heads... I just dont think the NHL should support it.

The Caps PP did well, just need to get those GAA down...

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

If you watch enough playoff series you know what to watch for at the end of a playoff game, esp at the start of a series. It IS about sending msgs. I totally expected Avery to do something on that shift and he did it. Of course it would have been a big bonus for him to draw us into a penalty. But he also wanted to send a msg to our team and our goalie that even though he didn't give JT a hard time last night, at some point in this series when Avery NEEDs to give him a hard time (i.e. in NY), he will. If the Caps are up a goal or two in a game, you can count on Sean Avery to start messing with our goalie the same way Hartnell and Upshall did it last yr. And I'm sure our response will be no response because thats the style this team likes to play.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

hope to see Clark and Brash in the lineup for game 2. Clarkie was back to playing a real gritty checking style before he got hurt. We need that presence in this lineup, not enough guys are willing to do the dirty work.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Avery did a ton of things last night - cross check Theo, hit Poti in the back with the puck after the whistle, pushed Green back into the Rangers bench (interference), trip Green which led to Gomez's goal, etc. If the NHL is not going to call things like that, then they support it. Avery is def trying to get into people's heads... I just dont think the NHL should support it.

The Caps PP did well, just need to get those GAA down...

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I'd venture to say if the Caps had a player or two like that who was willing to do those things, we'd see some benefit out of it. Dale used to do that anytime he felt his team needed a momentum change. The current version of the Caps thinks that nice guys finish first in the nhl.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

If anyone agreed with you cstanton, Avery would be facing a suspension along with Carcillo.

It really wasn't that big of a deal. He wanted a penalty and failed.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

cstanton - is that what the nhl wants? I agree, Dale was just like that and there are plenty of players that are like Avery, however, it's just weird... is that type of behavior that they want? Or, do they want to support a guy like Ovechkin who is passionate about the game?
They handed a ton of PIMs to Hartnel last night... same could have been done for Avery.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

its no surprise that you don't think it was a big deal

other teams would have responded differently. You think if Avery went upto an Anaheim goalie and bumped him and then pushed him up high near the end of a Rangers win that he'd just get ignored? you're high

and just like you think

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

phil, a crosscheck is a crosscheck... especially to a goalie.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Schultz and Jurcina need too be in reserve in case someone gets injured. Potheir and Alzner need to take their places. Then "Three-or-more" will be safe. I've been waiting since '99 to see the Caps get past the first round. I hope it's this year.

Posted by: Puckthepens | April 16, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Avery did a ton of things last night - cross check Theo, hit Poti in the back with the puck after the whistle, pushed Green back into the Rangers bench (interference), trip Green which led to Gomez's goal, etc. If the NHL is not going to call things like that, then they support it. Avery is def trying to get into people's heads... I just dont think the NHL should support it.

The Caps PP did well, just need to get those GAA down...

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:25 PM |

I don't really get this post. Nothing you typed was that bad at all, so why would the NHL not support it? He didn't cross check Theo either, he tapped him with his stick.

All those other things, he did what a normal hockey player does...the same thing tons of other players do. Do you want the NHL to kick out 1/3rd of their players or something?

Avery played a great hockey game last night, but I fail to see how he was anywhere his usual self.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

cstanton - is that what the nhl wants? I agree, Dale was just like that and there are plenty of players that are like Avery, however, it's just weird... is that type of behavior that they want? Or, do they want to support a guy like Ovechkin who is passionate about the game?
They handed a ton of PIMs to Hartnel last night... same could have been done for Avery.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

i have no idea what the nhl wants per se but I think they would like a combination of things, not just one thing. I think players like Avery and Ott add spice to the game and its good for rivalries and fan interest. If the NHL really wanted to do away with that they would do it.

and Avery is just as passionate about the game as Ovechkin is. Its just displayed in a different way because he doesn't have top shelf skills. His role is to agitate and still play hockey at a certain level and he does that (at least w/the Rangers)

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Crosscheck? He tapped his glove to try to draw a penalty. We werent stupid enough to get baited into his mind games, and we finished the game.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

phil, a crosscheck is a crosscheck... especially to a goalie.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

no doubt. Its a pretty big cardinal sin to come upto a goalie and mess with him esp at the end of a win

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Phil were you at the game? Or were you right where you could see the action. The point of the post was how ridiculous Avery was - if a puck is flicked at you after the play, that should be some sort of penalty... unsportsmanlike conduct... You push a player back into the bench after already hitting him in there - interference. You crosscheck a goalie after the whistle, its a fricken crosscheck... but, I guess you don't see those things on tv.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Are we talking about when Theo's glove was tapped with 1:30 left, or are you guys talking about something else Avery did after the game?

If you are talking about the 1:30 tap, then cstanton, you come through with your beautiful insight again. No team, including your Ducks, would have retaliated far enough to get a penalty when you are down by 1 in a playoff game. The player who gets that penalty will not see much ice time next game, if any.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Crosscheck? He tapped his glove to try to draw a penalty. We werent stupid enough to get baited into his mind games, and we finished the game.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

he popped him up high after JT confronted him.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

And you are telling me that you wanted us to retaliate against Avery to get a penalty? When down by 1 with a minute and some change left?

No, you don't do that.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

If you are talking about the 1:30 tap, then cstanton, you come through with your beautiful insight again. No team, including your Ducks, would have retaliated far enough to get a penalty when you are down by 1 in a playoff game. The player who gets that penalty will not see much ice time next game, if any.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 6:52 PM

you are so retarded because you apparently never watched the ducks play. I've seen players from Pronger to Beauchemin to their 3rd and 4th line guys (nieds, moen, pahlson, may, parros, sutherby etc etc) all take shots at what could be deemed a critical point in the gm without getting reprimanded by their coach. While there are definitely times to show restraint, what you choose to ignore conveniently is that the capitals ALWAYS seem to show restraint. Its never a good time to retaliate according to certain fans, right? If this happened in the 1st pd you'd find some excuse as to why not to do it, if this happened at the end of a blowout you'd find another excuse

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

When did Feds hit Avery back - that is when Avery crosschecked Theo - not sure the time. It wasn't a tap, that's all I know.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm an idiot because we're talking about an isolated incident and now you want to generalize it to the Caps as a whole?

If this happened at the end of a blowout, I would have wanted retribution. But guess what...we aren't talking about that, now are we?
Ad hoc, Ad hoc, Ad hoc. That is all you can do when you have nothing else to say. You basically admitted that we should have taken a stupid penalty there, and now you are going back saying "no way man, I meant in general the Caps don't do nothing, not in this SPECIFIC INCIDENT we are talking about!"

So when are you coming down to discuss hockey with me face to face. You said you were, are you not coming now? You have my address ( Yes i know its just an apartment, HAHAHA), so why don't you just come on down and tell me how retarded I am?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

And you are telling me that you wanted us to retaliate against Avery to get a penalty? When down by 1 with a minute and some change left?

No, you don't do that.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

what I'm really saying is, no matter WHEN Avery chooses to mess with our goalie, no one on our team will ever do anything. Same way they didn't do anything in the 7 game series last year.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

All I am saying is why the NHL would support that. Obviously, the refs in pburg thought Hartnel was over the top (16 min)... who knows, maybe there is inconsistencies... I felt they should have been penalties... but, what's done is done.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

I am not ignoring anything conveniently, I am saying IN THIS SITUATION, RETALIATING AGAINST AVERY WOULD HAVE BEEN STUPID.

"Yeah, but you are a retard because I was talking generally, and not this incident, although we were talking about this incident earlier!"

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

is anyone here looking for tickets, there are still 100s available in pairs for sat.

Posted by: capshockey1234 | April 16, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

what I'm really saying is, no matter WHEN Avery chooses to mess with our goalie, no one on our team will ever do anything. Same way they didn't do anything in the 7 game series last year.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:01 PM |

Unfortunately, this is not what you said.

You said when a playoff game is on the line with a minute left, we should retaliate and draw a penalty when a pest is trying to be a pest. That is what you defended.

Try to alter your argument or ad hoc your way out of it all you want, what you are saying now is not what you were saying earlier. (sound familiar?)

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

He will conveniently leave for a few hours and then come back and pick apart another sentence out of context and continue to put words in people's mouths.

Penetrating Insight.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

You said when a playoff game is on the line with a minute left, we should retaliate and draw a penalty when a pest is trying to be a pest. That is what you defended.

Try to alter your argument or ad hoc your way out of it all you want, what you are saying now is not what you were saying earlier. (sound familiar?)

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse


RichPhil, you have to be the densest person on this board bar none. Congratulations. Seriously, not an easy feat but you have accomplished it. Was "ad hoc" the word of the day on your toilet paper? I notice you think you sound more intelligent when you toss that around.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

He will conveniently leave for a few hours and then come back and pick apart another sentence out of context and continue to put words in people's mouths.

Penetrating Insight.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

and you will continue to pretend you know anything about this sport.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Lol.

Personal attacks now? Do you have nothing to say about the fact that you completely altered the conversation we were having and put words in my mouth? Again, sound familiar?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

by the way, I responded to your little challenge, unfortunately my post got held up in 'review' status. I probably used a few choice words that they didn't like. Too bad, they described you perfectly.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, because wanting your team to take a penalty with a minute left in a PO game DEFINITELY is a sign that you know the game.

Continue, please. Call me a retard or an idiot. There are some you haven't used yet.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Lol.

Personal attacks now? Do you have nothing to say about the fact that you completely altered the conversation we were having and put words in my mouth? Again, sound familiar?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:11 PM

dude, you're the poster child for personal attacks on this board. Don't weasel your way out now. So tell me again where I "put words in your mouth". Just saying it doesn't make it so.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Hockey games are starting, go complain about whatever is on your agenda today somewhere else.

Osgood just robbed Chimera.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I just love that you think you can discuss teams like the Ducks. Did you just perhaps watch that movie with Emilio Estevez and think that was enough to debate how the Ducks play Phil?

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

No personal attacks, I would like you to come over to my house and talk to me like a man. Since you seem to not want to come over, how about you give me your address. Got a number? I am in the Northern VA area quite frequently.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Boston on PP

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

So after attending the game last night, obviously Theo needs to pick up his game. I would expect the leash to be out although not too short as of yet. Their 3rd goal was also due to a poor decision to try and change out both forwards while on the PK, they brought it up ice quickly and our D did nothing to stop them at the blueline. Just kept skating backwards giving up ground.

Schultz looked like a donk on the gwg of course, showing off all the problems we've all stated about him all year. It happens. Theo had a bad game. It wasn't like Lunq stole the game, we put 3 behind him. We had 5 or 6 power plays too so complaining about the officiating seems silly, when you get that many PP's in a playoff game you can't really complain. Some stuff they are just going to let go you have to expect that.

We were down 2 and came back to tie it, this team isn't going anywhere. Bring on Saturday.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 16, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I love how Phil says I conveniently leave for a few hours, ROFL! Sorry to burst your bubble buddy, I and a few others have a life outside this board. So when we "conveniently leave" for a few hrs, it doesn't mean we're running away from you. Just that we have other more important things to do. But you keep that fire burnin here by yourself! you go boy!

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

No personal attacks, I would like you to come over to my house and talk to me like a man. Since you seem to not want to come over, how about you give me your address. Got a number? I am in the Northern VA area quite frequently.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Ever make it down to Naples little boy? lets make a date.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

And you would be perfectly happy in being baited into a penalty with a minute left in a playoff game when down by 1?

I wasn't saying the Ducks would not do it, It was too articulate how its stupid to do no matter what team you are.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Habs kill the penalty only 3 shots

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Naples? What, are you like 80 years old?

Give me your number. Quit talking about it. I love how you front like you are from this area, so I give you my address and you say you are going to come over and now you are conveniently living in Florida?

Address? Number? Something?

My Grandpa lives around there, I can plan a vacation to be there. Do you have a time preference?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Both you all need to relax... Caps lost, things sucked... move on...

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

lots of penalties in this game.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

what the hell? Avery was trying to get tbecaps to take a penalty to thwart a comeback. It's simple, he does it all the time, the Caps didn't take the bait. end of story. it wasnt a message, it was a smart play to keep the caps down, but they didn't bite.

turn on the wings game, it's already chippy, 5minutes in.


no thoughts on my avery comments in favor of this bonehead diatribe?

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

are you really ..truly surprised the CUPLESS CAPS lost???? Your talking like it was a upset!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I love how the Jackets throw out the Boll line to crash the net, because the Wings cant do anything about it but push and shove.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I am so pulling for colombus!

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Just catching up on all the updates. Tarik has been busy.

I'm still confident in this series but would like to see:

1) Aucoin in and Nylander out

2) Don't have the #1 PP unit out on the ice for the entire 2 minutes

3) Do a better job at finding lanes to shoot and get the puck on net (lots of misses wide last night, especially by Semin)

4) Muck it up in front of Henrik

Posted by: Moose33 | April 16, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the whole nhl thinks the Rangers are better than the Caps... who knew?

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Price is sharp unlike Theo...

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Someone should remind Bruce that they were also "in" game 7 against the Flyers last year. At some point, the team needs to take a lesson away from these close losses. It can't just be a shrug of the shoulders and an "oh, well." Maybe it's not enough to simply be "in" the game. To win in the playoffs, you have to move beyond that to being "in control" of the game.

Posted by: aybee27 | April 16, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

I am so pulling for colombus!

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Osgood is sharp unlike Biron..

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the whole nhl knows the Rangers are better than the Caps

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

OK your learning ! one step at a time

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Damn the whistle should have went!!!!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Datsyuk is a center unlike Semin...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Chura big chicken

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Caps are 2nd seed unlike the Habs...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Caps are all clean unlike the Habs...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Caps have no ties to the mafia unlike the Habs....

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Not any more they lost that seeding last night now the Rags have home ice!!! LOL

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Caps have a chance of making it to the 2nd round unlike the Habs...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Bears leading Philly 1-0 at the end of the first. Neuvirth in goal.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

refs are terrible

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Caps did not get humiliated by their arch-rivals in the 1st round unlike the Habs...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2-1

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin likes chewing tobacco unlike the Kostystin's who likes coke...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

They are showing the game last night on CSN tonight....
Encore..

Weird.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

cant believe these refs missed another one

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

cant believe these refs missed another one

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

What's the definition of irony?


A Habs fan complaining about the reffing.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay, you are a Canadiens fan. So go on a Canadiens blog and say "YES!!!!" over there. No one cares that you are happy. If you want to root for your team, go to a Montreal blog. No life loser. :/

GO NEUVY!!! *heart* :)

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Is OV checking on his sticks that they are storing in the walk in freezer

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

With as much crap he tried to give the Caps this season, it's sort of a bummer that he is a Habs fan. That team is a trainwreck, and makes it far to easy now.

Happy 100th !

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

BRB Grapes is on!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | April 16, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Is Markov busting out some rails up in the Suite?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

The NHL has suspended Philadelphia Flyers forward Daniel Carcillo one game and fined coach John Stevens $10,000 for his actions at the end of Wednesday night’s Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinal series against Pittsburgh, a game won by the Penguins, 4-1.

Carcillo got involved with the Penguins’ Max Talbot during a faceoff with seven seconds left in the game. Carcillo appeared to use the butt-end of his stick to strike Talbot in the head at the end of the regulation time. Talbot did not sustain an injury and no penalty was assessed.

"We had a conference call Monday with the General Managers and Coaches of playoff teams and told them explicitly we would not tolerate attempts by clubs to 'send a message' late in a game when the outcome had been determined," said Colin Campbell, NHL Senior Executive Vice Presidents of Hockey Operations. "Organizations – players and coaches – will be held accountable for such actions."

The Flyers acquired Carcillo, 24, at the trade deadline in exchange for Scottie Upshall and a 2011 second round draft pick. He scored 3 goals and 11 assists in 74 games this season, picking up 254 penalty minutes. He will miss Friday's Game 2 between the Flyers and Penguins in Pittsburgh.


Way to send that message Carcillo! Now you aren't playing.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

VS...now.

Insight. Take it in stanton.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Why is Steve Mason soooo good? He is 20, so is Varly, if he can play like that, so can Varly. I know the difference is that Mason played all year long.. but still.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

That difference is a big difference.

You know I love Varlamov as much as anyone else, but Theo needs a chance to redeem himself. We can't just flip-flop goalies the entire time.

Mason and Osgood have both looked really on so far.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, and Mason is a FREAK. That's why he is so good.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

what did Carcilo do?


Alz needs to go back to the juniors he is el stinko on defense for Hershey tonight

Posted by: maven1918 | April 16, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

If Mike Wise is accurate in describing Jose Theodore as virtually non-moving as he gave up 4 goals against the Rangers, perhaps we have a new version of the Frozen Four.

Posted by: sethtwiggs | April 16, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

@maven

It's right there, but I have yet to find any video of this.

My Flyer fan friends think that a suspension wasn't needed..but you know...they are Flyer fans.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

carcillo is one tough sob, part of the new nhl breed of pests, guys with some talent who play a nasty game

the vid will be posted soon, i know a guy

Posted by: maven1918 | April 16, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Mason just got punched through on a Jackets defensive fart.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but what he did there was just stupid. NHL explicitly warned all teams to not send any messages like that.

He just took himself out of a very important Game 2. Carcillo plays a huge role for them too. I think Sbisa is going to play wing for them to replace him.

And the Jackets respond right back!

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

there is a whole thread now on the live ahl game chat saying alzner sucks lol poor kid

not a great game to watch i wish i had not spent the $8 to watch this online

phantoms dressed a pretty tough lineup and the bears did not, they scratched their tough guys tonight and the phantoms are taking advantage of it. the whole team jus tried to fight osala

Posted by: maven1918 | April 16, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

i don't konw what carcilo did but i bet it was nothing worse than any of the things the flyers used to do back in the day with players like Rick Tocchet

still lookin for the vid, will post

Posted by: maven1918 | April 16, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't anything at all, but like I said, the NHL sent messages to every team EXPLICITLY stating that any "messages" sent like that near the end of a game will result in league action.

How is Alzner doing? The consensus from other Bear's fans seems to be he isn't cutting it.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

2-1 DET

Jackets starting to crumble a little...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Bears and Phantoms tied at 1-1 end of the second. Most of the period spent on PP or PK because the ref is whistle-happy.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil
Alzner gets out-muscled alot. He is smart positionally, sees the ice well. He rarely carries the puck, but his passes are on the mark. But he's not real big on clearing the front of the net or digging in the corners with guys.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

LOL Malhotra.

Who are you, Tom Poti?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

3-1 DET on the PP. Hejda kicks the puck in.

As much as I would have loved to see the Jackets take this series, reality seems to be setting in.

Poor, Poor Mason. His teammates just gave DET 2 goals.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Uh oh, Mason. :(

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

want an honest opinion on Alz? you won't like it - he plays a finesse game, will not initiate contact and other players love to run him as hard as they can, he's the new #55!

Posted by: maven1918 | April 16, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Bears!

Posted by: _Mark | April 16, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Bears win 4-2! Neuvy with an awesome performance. 30/32, great job Neuvy! :)

Posted by: rachel216 | April 16, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tix/1125979000.html


If there is only one link you will ever click here, make it this one. Trust me guys, you will find it hilarious.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Dang, i was hoping Colombus would pull it off. I'm glad they finally got in and I dont have to watch the Stars anymore.

SC07 is a Toronto fan, folks, not a Habs fan.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Bears goals by Andrew Gordon, Kyle Wilson, Jay Beagle and Oskar Osala.

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

yay bears. Was it a good game? Close? Guess I'll have to read all about it.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

SC07 is a Toronto fan, folks, not a Habs fan.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:35 PM |

How did you conclude this?

He seemed pretty Hab-tastic, and there is no way a real TOR fan would ever root for the Habs.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tix/1125979000.html


If there is only one link you will ever click here, make it this one. Trust me guys, you will find it hilarious.

Posted by: richmondphil

HAHAHAHAHA! I love the bit at the bottom! He's just begging for it. If I was a bit more of a d*** I wouldn't hesitate... I think we should write him just to find out how it goes.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Bears boxscore:

http://stats.theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1005996

Tons of minor penalties. Pray that Nigel Pelletier never moves up the ladder to ref in the NHL. He is a total jerk...wants to be the star of the game by blowing his whistle every chance he gets. Just let them play!

Posted by: tess2201 | April 16, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Phil, a couple reasons. he's trying to throw people off. He made some pretty dramatic retorts a week or so ago when people talked about Toronto negatively. A Habs fan would never do that. If he were really a habs fan, he wouldn't be sitting around on this blog watching the game. And he would be writing differently, using different euphemisms, etc. I have more than a few Quebecois friends, and dat guy aint one of them. His team is out, he's Canadian, and he's on the east coast. Toronto, my friend.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Ah, I must have missed that exchange.

Still, no true, self-respecting TOR fan should ever be rooting for the Habs. That is punishable by law up there.

Surprised he wasn't rooting for Boston honestly, if he truly is a TOR fan.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

He isn't routing for anyone. He's a troll, a tool, a lifeless, head gear wearing, panty waste. His sole purpose in life right now is to torment Caps fans because someone made a comment during a Caps/Leafs game that he took exception to. He's a head case, man.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and he only wants a Canadian team to win, becasue he's an idiot, a small minded fool. You know the type.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Ah, the pieces come together.

Just a bitter fan from a non-playoff team.

flames/hawks finally on VS. After that extremely boring Wings/Jackets game.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, what about the Sharks game? Are we not going to see that? I'm not complaining because I dont get to see much of Chicago, but I was hoping to see the Sharks tonight. Roenick and Lemiuex have me enthralled.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Short side on Kipper. 6 goals in the regular season and he's scoring in the post. Playoff hockey. Throw out the regular season, it doesn't mean anything.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was going to be Ducks/Sharks tonight as well.

Sorry, rachel, seems I was wrong.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

rofl how did i know RichPhil was still going to be here. Do you just sit and post all day long? Ever see the sunlight? make any more internet friends today?

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Give it a rest, cstanton1.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Short side on Kipper. 6 goals in the regular season and he's scoring in the post. Playoff hockey. Throw out the regular season, it doesn't mean anything.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 9:56 PM |

Kipper should have had that I think. Wasn't much traffic (if any) there.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

keys to game 2 v the Raggers

1- Change up the friggin PK unit. No more fancy dancy guys on that unit, just players who know how to disrupt passing lanes and get that puck out. For whatever reason our forwards like to try and skate it out when they should just be hammering it down ice. You get your stick on the puck, clear it!

2- get Chris Clark in there. He adds a dimension of on-ice grit that this team needs and other players seem to follow his lead. He's also a breath of fresh air and infusion of energy. Replace Fehr and/or Gordo with Clark/Brashear

3- since we won't bring up Kronwall, I s'pose Pothier will replace Schultz. No big upgrade there although Pothier played decently the last two games he was in the lineup. Ideally, I'd like to dump Poti and Schultz for Kronwall and Pothier. Slight upgrade overall but any upgrade will do

4- goalie wise i think the Rangers have already gotten inside JT's head and he has no faith in his D. Varlamov has had less time to distrust his players so put in the kid. May even give the team a boost, they seemed visibly ticked off at JT

5-- can we get some goalie screens on the PP please, broken record

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Give it a rest, cstanton1.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

so sweet to see you stick up for him :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Bears!

A ticket to Game 2 = a stoked jmu_capsgirl! Is it Saturday yet?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 16, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I thought they did a good job getting in front of the goalie last game. Both Laich and Semin were in front... half the time, Green and Ovechkin hit one of them. JT will play game 2. If he doesn't show up, we will see Varly in game 3 or some time in game 2.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sticking up for him because he needs it, I'm asking you to give it a rest because you're getting carried away. There's no need to belittle people and taunt them because you can't take a little disagreement. For the record, I think you were worng about Avery's message sending. You're reading too far into it. He wanted to draw a penalty to reduce a comeback chance, which is a smart thing to do. He doesn't send messages. He doesn't work like that. He just antagonizes to give his team an advantage. Messages aren't his MO.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

like i said, its very sweet to see you stick up for him, he needs all the friends he can get!

on an echl note, the SC Stingrays just tied up their series 2-2 with the Rangers ECHL squad. That Stingrays team keeps fighting and winning games despite being completely shorthanded and outmanned. They were down 2 zip in the series, now they tie it up and go back for the deciding game 5 to Charlotte.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

He wasn't just wrong. He also said that the Caps are pansies for not basically taking a penalty on the play. Yeah, play right into the hands of the pest in a playoff game, with a minute left and down by 1.

I'm just ignoring the little guy at this point. I mean, what kind of logical hockey fan is going to take the opinion of someone who says that taking a penalty with a minute left in a playoff game when you are down by 1 is "the right thing to do".

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

_828

the advantage to putting in Varly is the Rangers don't know how to shoot on him. They know exactly where to put the puck in on Jose.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

hey Phil educate us on how often the Caps punish opponents for taking liberties with our goalies? please, enquiring minds wanna know o great purveyor of hockey wisdom

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

828, had a fun year in the circus. Hope to see you next year ; )

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

btw if Avery had hit Theodore at the end of a Caps blowout Phil's excuse would have been

"why do the caps need to play into his hands, we already won the game, duh!"

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Cammalari. Top-shelf.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Great inference. You are a regular Modal Logician.

Is your last name Kripke by chance?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

nice rush. Blew by everyone. NO stopping that one. This period is gonna get even better...

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

cstanton - yep, they sure do know how to shoot on Theo - 2 goals were short side up high... so, from that thought, I agree that it could be a good move for Varly in net. I just don't see it happening just yet. You can't play someone all year and then abandon him because of one loss in the playoffs - not a good message from the organization.

007 - yeah, it was fun... my team sucked in the finals... Sombrero's team was nasty that final round... every time I caught up, he would pull away even farther.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling that game in December vs the Rangers is foreshadowing on how this series is going to fold out.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

828, yeah I noticed that. I also noticed that you too had some banter going on during the matchup which I liked to see. I often felt like I was the only one in there. Either way, I was the regular season champion. When does MY presidents trophy arrive?

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling that game in December vs the Rangers is foreshadowing on how this series is going to fold out.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 10:35 PM |

I sure hope you are right. Caps seem to do better as the "underdogs".

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Kipper just ROBBED Chicago. THats the kind of thing we need to see on Saturday from our goalie. Whoever that may be.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

oo7 "He doesn't send messages. He doesn't work like that. He just antagonizes to give his team an advantage. Messages aren't his MO."

i would disagree with that - when he drilled Coburn from behind at the end of the 1st pd after the last Flyers-Rags game after Coburn had taken a late shot on his goalie, that wasn't sending a message? Or when he went looking for a fight after his teammate got hammered.Avery does a lot of things on the ice, he hits, he scores, he scrums up the crease, he plays solid hockey, and he sends a message. There's lots of different ways to send msgs. In the context of this discussion, it would be in the forms of hits, scrums, altercations, and antagonistic behavior. and like i stated before, something RPhil has a hard time getting his dense mind around, had Avery drawn a penalty from us that would have been a big bonus. But he was still trying to let our goalie know that this is a long series and to expect to see him in his crease often.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Insane save.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Calgary-Chicago is on my radar for a fun series to watch

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

well try and get some sleep tonight phil, you need yer energy to post all day tomorrow! hehehehe

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

But he was still trying to let our goalie know that this is a long series and to expect to see him in his crease often.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 16, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

If Varly does get in, that trash talk wont mean much to him as he doesn't know too much English... he may only understand the f-bombs.

I don't know if Avery was sending a message... I just think that's him - tries to get under your skin - he def got under mine and I'm not even playing. I just wish someone would jack him up... or, before it even gets to that - the refs start calling some penalties against him. I honestly don't think his teammates like him. After Avery dropped his gloves for Poti, Erskine hit his glove towards Theo, another Ranger player picked up the glove and threw the glove back at Avery. That guy will stab you in the back if he had a chance too...

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Anyone see Zetterberg's one hand feed to Franzen in that game? Ridiculous.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

@828

Drury, Lundy, Dubinsky, and a few others had some not so nice words for Avery when he left the team. I guess all that has been put aside.

Plus, did you read Torts' comments on Avery before he was assigned Head Coach? Quite the harsh words...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

This Chi/Cal game is fantastic. As much as I thought SJ/Anaheim would be good to watch this is definitely the right choice. Superb to see the city of Chicago back in the mix.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 16, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tix/1125979000.html

If there is only one link you will ever click here, make it this one. Trust me guys, you will find it hilarious.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 16, 2009 9:33 PM
phil:
funny stuff
crysby has a lot of time on his hands - i question the hetero comment at the end though

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 16, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

That's because Avery is a joke... I don't mind Hartnell, can't stand Avery!

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Can we start posting ads on Craigslist for the Rangers?

"Hi, my name is Sean. I am kind of a bad boy and am looking for someone to go to the Ranger's game with me. I am only interested in someone who has not hooked up in the past few days as I am not into the whole sloppy seconds thing."

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Hello fine fellow fans! I see we are playing nice as usual ... :-/

828:
RE: Avery pushing Green back into the bench, how on earth was that not called?!? Interference, holding, something?!? A ref was standing right there watching the whole thing. Unbelievable.

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 16, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Boo - the hit was clean and then he skated away for a second then saw Green was into the bench and then skated over to push him more. I think Green cut his ear as Avery was checking his ear after the scrum. Something should have been called - that is what I was most pissed about. Things like that can not be approved by the NHL. That's like Ovechkin hitting someone... skating away, then coming back and hitting again while he is trying to get up.

Posted by: _828 | April 16, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

cranton1:
please stick to ripping apart caps players you intensely dislike, trying to abuse other posters makes you seem like a 12 yr old

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 16, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

828:
Exactly. He should not be called for the initial hit, he should be called for the go-back. And I do think he was cut by Green's skate ... serves him right. The thing that kills me is that the ref was RIGHT THERE. He looked like he was saying/gesturing knock it off but that's it. Are you kidding me?!? This is not pond hockey it's the bleepin' NHL playoffs!!!

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 16, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

that was fast!

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 11:16 PM | Report abuse

That's so funny. When they said Havlat was the only one to have an OT post-season GWG and to keep an eye on him I thought so? LOL!! I mean, seriously, what were the chances that he was gonna get it again tonight? Too funny ... guess the jokes on me! :-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | April 16, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Boo, when they said that I thought Havlat was in the locker room thinking "I'm gonna score, definitely..." because if you've done it once, you want to get the feeling back again! That said, Kipper can't really make that save with a guy tying him up. That was a perfect example of why you crash the net.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Man, one loss and it's amazing what comes out of the woodwork. (Been on business travel this week, only caught the final frame.) You'd think we'd just gotten our tee times listening to a lot of you.

That said, that blew chunks. Lots of them. Not everything was bad that I saw, and it's the usual suspects picking on the usual people. Yawn.

For those of you who thought our PP was bad, remember that the Rags had the best regular-season PK in the league at something like 87.8%? Our PP was a hair over 25%, good for second in the league? We went 2/7 on the PP, or 28.6%. Their PK at 5/7 was more like 71%? Hmm. That's not that bad, put that way. That our PK blew was probably more a goalie problem than anything else; remember that your goalie has to be your best PK'er? I'd look to that before I started monkeying with the PK units.

My figuring? Theodore gets to try to redeem himself Saturday. If he does, cool, and he tends to come out swinging more often than not after an ugly loss, just like the rest of the team. If not ... well, we have nothing to lose by putting Varly in the net in game 3. We know the kid handles pressure pretty well.

Just remember, it's ONE GAME in SEVEN. It's not quite time for the sackcloth and ashes yet, although some of you are pretty funny-looking in it. Forget the officiating, we need to be able to overcome crap like that and win anyway. Such things should not be the turning points in games, and certainly not as often as they are. We're too good for that crap. So let's stop worrying about who did or didn't do what, staple Avery to the boards until he shuts up, leave the bubblegum chewed on the Rangers lockerroom floor, and come out to fulfill the other purpose this team has in life.

Posted by: kittypawz | April 16, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Havlat was watching the coverage and decided he was going to end lives tonight from the Swoon factor of tying it late and winnning it quick. Calgary = stunned

Only crazier "I called that" moment I've seen about OT goals was Sykora calling his game winner in the Finals last year.

Niedermayer tries to look stunned, even though he had a bigger piece of that guy than Kurt Warner did of Dick Vermiel after they won the Super Bowl.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 16, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

everytime they say vlacic I think of pickles.

Posted by: oo7 | April 16, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

@saintex

I don't remember the last time green fell down trying to play D, only to have an opposing skater skate around him like a pylon. The defensive differences between Green and Schultz is laughable. Green is more of a finese guy who may be out of position occasionally but has the speed to make up for it. Whereas Schultz, well unless they're standing still he doesn't have a prayer. I can't beieve you're trying to compare the 2. That's like trying to compare Pat Falloon to Pavel Bure. Like I said, laughable. Give me Green's defensive liability any day of the week and twice on Sunday compared to Schultz. What a joke he is.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | April 16, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

So the big key to Saturday's game is Theodore stepping up his play...(blatantly stealing this from Bill Simmons) he doesn't need to be "Interstate Love Song" good, only "Vasoline" good.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 16, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

You know who I blame for this loss? Cristobal Huet. I don't blame him for going for the extra $$$ with Chicago but now he's on the bench while we're stuck with JT. If he'd signed with the Caps, he'd be playing and we'd be winning. End of story.

Posted by: CAP-lanta | April 16, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I have to disagree. If we had ponied up the same money we'd be stuck with a 4 year $22 mil contract when instead we have 2 young kids chomping at the bit and a goalie who we can ditch after next year.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 17, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I have been on the NY Daily news forum most of the day and their fans are crowing as if they have the Cup in hand. It's amazing how hometown fans view the game. I know Jose three-or-more is old now but every single maggoty Rag fan refers to him that way. aka he is also the spaghetti strainer. Their fans saw a completely different game and they were generally happy but in a not so happy way. Quite simple, Theo need to stop more shots to become effective. Goalies get sleepy when they are not tested, Theo even said so during the season. He looked "off" even when the puck wasn't on net. And I don't care if Ovie takes bad shots, for God of the ice, some WILL go in. 13 shots, nobody else was close to that.

Posted by: bhound69 | April 17, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

oo7, Same. Luckily, that's his nickname, so we're not crazy.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 17, 2009 12:08 AM | Report abuse

@davecapsfan

agreed

@cap-lanta

We offered the same deal Chi-town did. GMGM came all the way up to his demand, fact was, he didn't want to play in DC. I still recall the press conf GMGM had following the offer.

Posted by: bhound69 | April 17, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

JMU, You ever make it to game 1?

Posted by: bhound69 | April 17, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Rarely is any shot ever a "bad shot". Like Melrose said, taking that many shots creates problems for the defense. It creates scrambles in front, it creates rebounds, it creates pucks being knocked down and redirected.

I'd be happy if I was a Rangers fan too, even if we come out and steamroll them Saturday they can correctly claim they got what they wanted a split down here to go back home 1-1. Of course the rub is for our guys I don't consider up there an intimidating place to play at all, especially if we come up big on Saturday.

Game Plan, pencil in Clark, stick him with Fehr and have Laich center their line. Soon as the mo swings our way put their line on the ice. Captain returns from injury and pours one in early the roof will go off. We'll never look back from there.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 17, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

@dave

agreed, again

Posted by: bhound69 | April 17, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

bhound9, No, I had class. Watched the last two minutes of it when I got home. I'm going to the game on Saturday though! I feel like a kid two days before Christmas. Saturday can't get here fast enough.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 17, 2009 12:18 AM | Report abuse

I bet, have fun, Rock the Red. Xmas in April!!!

Posted by: bhound69 | April 17, 2009 12:27 AM | Report abuse

H*ll yeah!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | April 17, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

bhound69: Yup, that's how I remember it. It is what it is and I'm as happy that our kids now have the room to come up. Neuvirth's kicking butt and taking names in Hershey, Varly's up here, and Theo's only signed for one year after this one. Like I said, I think Theo gets the start for game 2; if he screws it, Varly goes for game 3. We've got nothing to lose.

Posted by: kittypawz | April 17, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

After watching a very boring 2 period finish in the Wings/Jacket games, the end to that Hawks/Flames game was intense.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 17, 2009 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Also, I am happy to see the Sharks losing right now. Then we won't be the only outward favorite to lose.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 17, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

Wow, Getzlaf.

Out of the box and into the net.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 17, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Getzlaf just punched the air out of everyone's gut in that arena.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | April 17, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

I gotta say. I only the last 12 minutes or so, but the Sharks looked like crap.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 17, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

only saw*

Posted by: richmondphil | April 17, 2009 1:08 AM | Report abuse

When every shot comes from Ovie it is easy for the goalie to concentrate on him.

Posted by: Hookey | April 17, 2009 5:38 AM | Report abuse

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