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Bourque Claimed by Pens

Chris Bourque was claimed by Pittsburgh this afternoon, the team announced. But that doesn't mean Michael Nylander will get into the lineup for tomorrow's opener in Boston. Instead, the Caps plan to recall minor-league forward Boyd Kane to skate on the left side of the fourth line.

Coach Bruce Boudreau said Bourque was waived on Tuesday so that the Caps could squeeze under the salary-cap ceiling of $56.8 million.

But here's the kicker: Bourque earns $577,500 and Kane earns $500,000. So that means the Caps were less than $77,500 over the cap yesterday.

I'll have more in a bit.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  September 30, 2009; 12:37 PM ET
 
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Comments

Excuse me while I throw up. Go away Nylander!

Posted by: TheFunBunch | September 30, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

another one bites the dust.... Noooooooooooooo! God I really hate that team

Posted by: hbcapsfan | September 30, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Just when I thought I couldn't hate Pittsburgh any more....BAM!

Posted by: DisgustedinArlington | September 30, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

The fact they then recall Boyd Kane and won't play Nylander is one of the dumbest things this organization has done in recent memory.

Posted by: ThePat | September 30, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Aw come on. The Pens... really?

Posted by: _Mark | September 30, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

That makes me sick that he was claimed by the Pens. Figures. Thanks Nylander.

Posted by: rozey57 | September 30, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

The PENGUINS?!

Jeez. I thought I hated them before now. Now, I despise them with every bit of detestation I can muster up. SO not fair.

Not only does he not get to play for us, he has to play for our most-hated rival?!

SO not fair!

#$!@&%$!&(%

Posted by: irockthered | September 30, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

...Boyd Kane?

Who the hell is Boyd Kane?!

Posted by: irockthered | September 30, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Nylander... just go away....

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | September 30, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

No I hate Nylander even more! NOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: schnervel | September 30, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Much like my Black & Decker leaf vacuum, this both sucks and blows.

The Pens have the last pick on the waiver wire... he almost made it through.

Posted by: brihobbs | September 30, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame Nylander. Blame McPhee & Boudreau. Why couldn't they waive Flash or Fehr? They've had their chances.

Posted by: afreeman3 | September 30, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

man, sooo close, less than 76K over. Poor Chris.

Posted by: hbcapsfan | September 30, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Holy freaking crap - that is disappointing, to say the least. I don't think he was the greatest, but sure seemed to be able to hold his own and contribute. Sure wish a trade would have been worked out last week so that the Caps got SOMETHING out of it.

Posted by: armonroe | September 30, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I am a big supporter of McPhee and BB but they are handling Nylander situation very classless. Speak up and say whats going on or play the guy. He has more talent than half our forwards let him show it.

I mean Boyd F'n Kane over Nylander, this is stupid.

Posted by: ThePat | September 30, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

lets all just step back and realize what just happened. chris bourque was most likely not going to make an impact on this team this year or for years to come. he was here until flash and fehr got back. my opinion, but lets forget his last name or that he's undersized and hustles and realize that it's not like we lost a piece of our future.

it sucks that they had to make this decisions given the nylander situation, and it double sucks that he misses out on playing in boston tomorrow. at least he will be on an nhl roster for a few days at least. he'll most likely get sent to wilkes barre...maybe we can reclaim him on waivers going down, if possible.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | September 30, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't we put Laing on waivers instead of Bourque?

Posted by: tmac2yao | September 30, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Terrible situation for everyone... except the Pens of course. Cooke, Johnson, and now Bourque is over there. Weird they have players I actually like.

Posted by: larryn703 | September 30, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The Pens really wanted to stick it to us and so they did. No hard feelings towards McPhee or Boudreau. It's the nature of the business, I guess. As for the Pens picking him up, I expect all the wrath of a determined Capitals team and their fans to rain down on them when we meet. If Borque plays, my condolences to the humiliation he and Brent Johnson will suffer. *evil grin*

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | September 30, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I blame Nylander. If he would of accepted the Caps offers to be sent overseas, this would of not happened. I hope Nylander gets boooed every time he touches the puck.

Posted by: rozey57 | September 30, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

What a sad turn of events. Especially if the cap issue was that small. Boyd Kane, I believe, is a former captain of the Bears that came back to them this offseason.

Posted by: _Mark | September 30, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"Don't blame Nylander. Blame McPhee & Boudreau. Why couldn't they waive Flash or Fehr? They've had their chances."

Flash is on LTIR and his salary doesn't count; Fehr scored more often than anyone other than the Alexes 5-on-5 last year.

Posted by: capsbluelinedotcom | September 30, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

btw, bourque is a wing and nyls is a center. nylander wasnt going to play in boston unless backs, mo, stecks or gordon got hurt...even then they probably would have moved laich to center...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | September 30, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Can't find much by googling but Christopher Bourque is on the Pens roster on their website.

Posted by: fanohock1 | September 30, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't we send Sloan down instead of Bourque? Sloan makes more, is the 8th defenseman, and is significantly more likely to clear waivers.

Posted by: decoy13 | September 30, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"I am a big supporter of McPhee and BB but they are handling Nylander situation very classless. Speak up and say whats going on or play the guy. He has more talent than half our forwards let him show it."

I disagree. They're handling the situation in private, which is what they ought to do. What would be classless would be having it out in the press.

Posted by: capsbluelinedotcom | September 30, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

@tmac2yao - Because Laing is the better player of the two.

Posted by: irockthered | September 30, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Now wait a sec...why was Bourque put on waivers to save money when the result was to call up a (slightly) more expensive player? How does that save any money? Either I'm missing something, or the front office didn't think through all of the scenarios.

Posted by: dcunitedfan3 | September 30, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

It almost seems like the Pens did it on purpose just because he was put on waivers by the caps but they had every intention of keeping him.

Posted by: Moose33 | September 30, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Good for Bourque. If the Caps are inept at handling their own cap space (Fishman/McPhail) and had to expose someone, then so be it. Everyone knew the risks, and someone claimed him. Hopefully for Bourque, he gets a chance and he's going to the Stanley Cup champions so it could be a heck of a lot worse (think T-Bay).

Everyone (Boudreau) was all giddy about how the Nylander situation was going to be resolved by Tuesday, then it became obvious that some sort of deal for Nylander had not happened (yet), so they had to expose someone from the roster...and it ended up being Bourque.

Good luck to him. LOL @ McPhail.

Posted by: Jaymagz | September 30, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

@capsbluelinedotcom - Totally agree.

While it is frustrating to us as fans, the agreement between BB, Nylander, GMGM, et. al. is really none of our beezwax, and as much as we hate it, we really have to respect that.

But I repeat: who the hell is Boyd Kane?!

Posted by: irockthered | September 30, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Just one more example of George McPhee's incompetence. YOU PEOPLE TRULY NEED TO WAKE UP, AND STOP RIDING THIS CLOWN'S RICHARD. Suckers!!!

Posted by: Puckguru | September 30, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Thats because nylander sucks! He enters the zone and twirls and falls down. Not to mention he would pass the puck when he had an empty net breakaway to win the cup! He's way past his time.

Saw Bourque at practice monday and he was one of the better guys out there. A lot of heart and great on shootouts. For a little guy he had great hockey sense and was due for a breakout year.

Clearly the management and the coach KNOW he's not any good if they are not playing nyls. I mean BB knows hockey talent and if he's not playing nyls there is a clear and present reason that is simply he's not good enough to fill our void. Dont know about Kane yet but we'll see.

Posted by: towsoncapsfan26 | September 30, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

@dcunitedfan3 - the player called up is less expensive than Bourque was. Slightly.

Posted by: irockthered | September 30, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I just threw up!

seriously, WTF Nylander?? we just lost a good player because of you!

consolation prize #1: Pittsburgh was near the end of the waiver wire (or the end), so GMGM almost squeezed him through...

Posted by: FrankM73 | September 30, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Now wait a sec...why was Bourque put on waivers to save money when the result was to call up a (slightly) more expensive player? How does that save any money? Either I'm missing something, or the front office didn't think through all of the scenarios.

Posted by: dcunitedfan3 | September 30, 2009 12:49 PM


Boyd is 500k Chris was 577K. Math states it is 77.5 K less with Boyd, who ever the hell he is...

Posted by: hbcapsfan | September 30, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Quit blaming Nyles - he waived his NMC last year and the other team backed out. Would you voluntarily go to Siberia for a job - I didn't think so. But effing Kane. There were rookies that had better camps and he is the biggest and most arrogant ass in the organization - send him back to PHL.

Posted by: Varly | September 30, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Boyd Kane scored an OT game winner for the Bears in their last preseason game. Who the heck is Boyd Kane? Someone who can squeeze under the Cap and keep BB from having to dress Nylander. That's who Boyd Kane is.

Posted by: fanohock1 | September 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you'd think we just lost AO on waivers. I like Bourque plenty, but this over-reaction is rediculous. The attacks on Nylander, GMGM, and anyone else are pitiful.

Just fuel for the haters itching for anything to attack GMGM about.

Posted by: _Mark | September 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

1. what has bourque done to deserve this much attention?

2. unless you would turn down the kind of money Nyls is scheduled to make and just go away yourself as some of you are screaming for, just shut up about it. it's the fault of the organization so blame them!!!

Posted by: joek443 | September 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Noooooo!!!! Damn Pens!! We'll miss you Bourque!

Posted by: imacapsfan83 | September 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

watch. gmgm will issue some statement about how this was the plan all along.

i usually give him the benefit of the doubt, but this is a huge mistake. and since we're paying nyls salary, why not give him a chance to redeem himself. if he stiff screws up, then sit him.

i can't beleive all that time and money spend developign bourque has been wasted. this is BS is what this is.

Posted by: jamebow | September 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, you couldn't make this s$!t up!!!

Posted by: griz0615 | September 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

This really is an Epic Fail! Tell the kid to get ready to start as a Capital in BOSTON no less then try to hide him on waivers. That kid has done EVERYTHING that was asked of him the last few years to get to this point and this is how he is repaid. Not a great move guys!!

Posted by: j3rockstar | September 30, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

WTF!!!!!! I reserved my judgment yesterday to see where this was going. I'm speechless!

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | September 30, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully we can reclaim him when/if the pens send him down to WB and he has to go through waivers again.

Posted by: Dizzy1205 | September 30, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

i still fail to see why so many people are upset about the benching of an old injury prone has been that plays no defense and whose style of play significantly disrupts our offensive flow. Yes Nylander ( no movement clause) is a significant cap hit, and that hurts us, but playing him just to justify his salary would hurt us more.

Posted by: doncosmic | September 30, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I like GMGM as much as the next fan, but this was truly management ineptitude. Period.

Posted by: schnervel | September 30, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Cooke, Johnson, Bourque... a train robbery!

Posted by: CodePoetry | September 30, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

For you Hershey followers, what lines did Bourque and Laing typically play on?

Posted by: tmac2yao | September 30, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOO!

I'm trying to be understanding, but I have a nasty feeling this whole situation is going to bite us hard in in the collective @$$ when it counts the most.

@Puckguru: No GM is infallible, and each must work within the constraints of the choices available to him. I do believe that GMGM has made some mistakes, but so has every GM at one time or another. I don't like this at all (Borque being waived and exposed to acquisition by the Evil Empire). Nor do I like the way the Nylander "No Movemnet Clause" situation has been handled thus far. That said, I think that--on the balance--GMGM's body of work has been solid.

You need to go away. Now.

Posted by: Rhino40 | September 30, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

You folks who blame Nyllet (the Swede nickname for Nyls, meaning the "face" :) need to think it through. If you were in his skates, would you take a paycut, uproot your family and move to the Russian prairie? I didn't think so. It's not his fault the Caps made the wrong choice in signing him.

Posted by: jakopz | September 30, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Worst news possible!!!!!!! Way to go management.

Posted by: Grape8 | September 30, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Bourque will probably be in Hershey this seeing playing AGAINST the Bears. The Pens don't have a need for him in their line-up. They do take pride in the minor league system just like the Caps do so he was picked up to augment the baby Pens IMO. We lost a feel good story, but as others have said, not our future.

Posted by: fanohock1 | September 30, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

But I repeat: who the hell is Boyd Kane?!

Posted by: irockthered | September 30, 2009 12:51 PM
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Boyd Kane = career minor leaguer

He captained the Philly Phantoms to the Calder Cup in 2005, came to the Bears and captained them to the Cup in 2006 (with BB as coach). Then he went back to Philly for two years. When the Flyers announced this summer that they were moving their farm team to Glens Falls NY, Kane came back to the Bears as a UFA. I guess BB likes him since he made him the captain back in 05-06, but he never really impressed me too much.

Posted by: tess2201 | September 30, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

joek443 - The answer to 1 is "have a famous hockey dad"!

I am honestly glad he is gone, even though it's to the Pens. He was never ever ever going to make this team on a permanent basis and the fawning over him was old last season and even older now. I'd rather have ten Laings than him.

Posted by: amberlynne | September 30, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

dang, I didn't know the Caps had Ray Bourque and just lost him to the Pens.. when did he come outta retirement??

Posted by: joek443 | September 30, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Could NOT a CAP player have stepped up to take a pay adjustment to keep BOURQUE on the roster? Why jump on Nylander? WHO made that offer to him? MCPHEE??? Sounds as if there TWO FINGERS POINTING AT THE GM. I love the CAPS, BUTT? POSSIBLE SOLUTION: Let's bring Vinny over from the 'SKINS to run the shop.

Posted by: courlin1 | September 30, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

@jakopz - The Caps did NOT make the wrong choice in signing Nylander... WHEN they signed him.

Does it look like the wrong choice now? YES. BUT that is with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.

Did we know he'd be hurt?
Did we know his season would end to that injury?
Did we know he wouldn't bounce back from that injury?
Did we know we would have a coaching - and entire system - change while he was hurt?

No, No, No, and NO.

So no, it was NOT a bad move when it was made. We can all armchair GM this team better than GMGM with 20/20 hindsight.

In the meantime, all he has to go on is the past and present; he can't see the future, and neither can we.

Bourque went to the Penguins.
Nylander stayed here.
Kane got called up to replace Nylander.

These are all things that happen above our salary grade, and we have to live with them. Now I suggest we start acting like fans and support our team. That's what it's all about, right? Good times, bad times - THE SEASON HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET!!!

Posted by: irockthered | September 30, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I just went on a site I saw a link for on a previous post www.capgeek.com. I checked all the players, including the 2 on IR and it calculated with the bonus inflator that we were about 80K under the cap, now with Flash and Fehr on IR (which wouldn't count toward the cap til they come off) we were plenty under to keep Bourque around until Fehr was ready to play. Terrible way of handling it, letting Chris know he made the team then putting on waivers 24 hrs. later.

Posted by: BBDwrestling | September 30, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

At 6'2" 225lbs- if he uses his body, there will certainly be some opposing players who will be sore the next day

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyd_Kane

Posted by: Fro_ | September 30, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Get a grip people. Just be glad you woke up here in D C today & not in Samoa or Indonesia. You would think the C-Bo was the second of The Rocket, Gordie & The Great One all rolled into one. In addition----GET A LIFE!!!!

Posted by: sidehillman | September 30, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame BB. And I don't blame Nylander, a good guy and a good player who's looking out for his family.

This one's squarely on management - GMGM. And let us not forget, a 2nd-round pick is a high pick - how many lower-round picks have the Wings (just to name one) made all-stars? Great coach, great players, great fans, great owner - GM, not so much.

Posted by: govtimbo | September 30, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

In a really bad way, the whole situation is comical:

Boudreau: Hey Chris, how'd you like to have dinner at your dad's house on Thursday night?
Bourque: so I made it?? WOW! This is great news!!!! Let me call my folks!!
Tariq: Have you bought tickets for your buddies??
Bourque : Not yet, but I'm not worried, my dad has plenty of connections!
Tariq: hahaha! well, best of luck!
2 mins later:
Boudreau: Can I see you for a second...we had to place you on waivers today Chris.
Bourque - stunned silence...ummm...ok I guess.

Boudreau: spin, spin, spin, more spin, McPhail, spin, Nylander, spin, spin, spin...McPhail.

Pittsburgh - let's claim him.

So ends saga of Bourque with Caps and yet another chapter in the McPhail handbook of how not to manage an NHL team.

Posted by: Jaymagz | September 30, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

People.

Perspective.

CHILL. OUT.

It's done.

Posted by: irockthered | September 30, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

courlin1 - No, a player could not do that. The player's union would not allow it because of how it is RIDICULOUS! If that was going to happen in whatever fantasy land where it would be possible, it would be Ovie chipping in at the end of this season so we can keep Semin, a player that would actually be a shame to lose instead of a guy that was never going to play a full season with us ever.

Posted by: amberlynne | September 30, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Just one more example of George McPhee's incompetence. YOU PEOPLE TRULY NEED TO WAKE UP, AND STOP RIDING THIS CLOWN'S RICHARD. Suckers!!!

Posted by: Puckguru | September 30, 2009 12:51 PM | Report abuse

exactly, we need to forget about the trades he's pulled for guys like laich and flash, and the picks that became varlamov and green. forget about drafting backs and semin. for pulling the deadline deals that got us feds, etc for nothing. we need to forget about those because we LOST RAY BORQUES UNDERSIZED YET ADORABLE SON.

lets focus on the nylander pickup, which was lauded and applauded at the time as a great move to help a young swedish center develop and make a certain russian wing even better.

mcphee is such a loser that this team is only on the short list of probably stanley cup winners...yeah, suckers.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | September 30, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

IRTR, valiant effort battling today. Thanks for trying with plenty of good points and valid observations, but I don't think many people are listening (reading).

Posted by: _Mark | September 30, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Could NOT a CAP player have stepped up to take a pay adjustment to keep BOURQUE on the roster? Why jump on Nylander? WHO made that offer to him? MCPHEE??? Sounds as if there TWO FINGERS POINTING AT THE GM. I love the CAPS, BUTT? POSSIBLE SOLUTION: Let's bring Vinny over from the 'SKINS to run the shop.

Posted by: courlin1

First off, you're insane to think that dumbass GM (Vinny) would do well.

And part of the CBA is that no contracts can be re-negotiated.

Posted by: pkendrick | September 30, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Nice to know we spend a few years developing a young player, then finally when he gets a shot to play in the NHL, the team has to put him on waivers and gets claimed by Satans Team, the Penguins. I really really hate that organization through and through. But I cant blame them for admitting the Caps have more depth than they do, at least only in action and not publically.

Posted by: cirrus_nine | September 30, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

George, get this Nylander things over with....today. It was a bad signing, and hasn't worked out, eat the $$$ and move on....lost a good young player to Pittsburgh because this friggin problem isn't done. Trade Nylander to Nashville, eat the salary and move on....

Posted by: outrbnksm | September 30, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm happy that Chris Bourque is getting a fresh start somewhere, though Pittsburgh never entered my mind as a team that would take him.

And for those of you calculating salary caps, I think I read GMGM or BB say that Fehr and Flash are on IR, but not LTIR. If that's the case, their salaries still count in the cap.

Posted by: tess2201 | September 30, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Stupid & Classless, from the owner down.

Oh wait, Forsberg will be here later this afternoon.

Posted by: Cheef | September 30, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

amberlynne,

I wouldn't say chris bourque was never gonna make this team and be a good player at some point because he's still young and you never know these things. But all this fawning over him as you put it is just too much... LOL

but on positive note you might say this is a sign that washington has trully become a hockey town since a lot of people are upset over losing a third or forth line winger on waivers. when I started following this team 25 years ago, something like this barely would have made news.

Posted by: joek443 | September 30, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

George, get this Nylander things over with....today. It was a bad signing, and hasn't worked out, eat the $$$ and move on....lost a good young player to Pittsburgh because this friggin problem isn't done. Trade Nylander to Nashville, eat the salary and move on....

Posted by: outrbnksm | September 30, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

dude, i dont want to sound like a jerk. but you need to have a little better understanding about how things work in the nhl before going off on this rant.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | September 30, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

George, get this Nylander things over with....today. It was a bad signing, and hasn't worked out, eat the $$$ and move on....lost a good young player to Pittsburgh because this friggin problem isn't done. Trade Nylander to Nashville, eat the salary and move on....

Posted by: outrbnksm | September 30, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

dude, i dont want to sound like a jerk. but you need to have a little better understanding about how things work in the nhl before going off on this rant.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | September 30, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

And I think Boyd Kane likes to get physical- based on his PIMs. His total games played- all levels- is 980, and his total PIMs is 1,785. For a left winger of his size- I'd like to think that his PIMs are not for stick penalties.

Posted by: Fro_ | September 30, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

If the pens send Bourque to the w/b baby pens, doesn't that expose him again? We could pick him for the Bears, I think.

Posted by: uncatim | September 30, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I agree it is really stupid of Nyls not to give up his salary so that the hysterical fans of the Caps calm down. He is so mean, he sucks and he is at fault for all my headaches and stomach pains. Go away Nyls!!! You are ... you are ... boo hoo hoo...

Give me a break!

Posted by: hock1 | September 30, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

sucks he went to pens but chris did not have much of a shot here,i may be wrong but i dont think it is a big loss,give nyls a chance i think he would produce more than chris he is just to small

Posted by: baltraven52 | September 30, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of who's to blame for the whole Nylander situation, it would be a shame to let this put a damper on our excitement for the start of the season, what with hopes and expectations running so high. I can't wait for tomorrow night!

Posted by: hillg | September 30, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

You people blaming Nylander for this? I think your absolute hatred for him is clouding your rationale...MGMT, especially GMGM, is to blame for this...they'd rather call up an AHL nobody to play in place of a $4.5 million guy who, contrary to what a lot of you think, knows how to play in the NHL...THAT is a worse move than waiving Bourque in the first place...

Posted by: R617 | September 30, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Haha wow, everyone is certainly amped up over this situation. This must be what it was like in Edmonton the day Gretzky got traded to Los Angeles.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | September 30, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I kinda expected Pittsburgh to claim him. Not for any rational reason, but just because that's what they do. They screw the Caps.

The Nylander situation has been handled so poorly. McPhee's had plenty of time to deal with this (what, 11 months since he fell out of favor with Boudreau??) but he's not at all proactive and has zero people skills. Witness how he handled Kolzig and Eminger. He's a Grade A jerk off.

Posted by: Hatfield223 | September 30, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

You know what's funny, Giroux would fit under the cap as well which means he could have been on the team if we didn't put him thru waivers. Unfortunately now he would have to clear re-entry waivers and a team could pick him up for 1/2 the cap hit.

Oh and the other player they could have called up was Kyle Wilson but I don't have a problem with Kane being up here. BB and the other 06 Bears know him.

Posted by: pkendrick | September 30, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"You people blaming Nylander for this? I think your absolute hatred for him is clouding your rationale...MGMT, especially GMGM, is to blame for this...they'd rather call up an AHL nobody to play in place of a $4.5 million guy who, contrary to what a lot of you think, knows how to play in the NHL...THAT is a worse move than waiving Bourque in the first place..."

Well said. Some people here are so stupid, this is completely on GMGM--but they, like some idiot fans, will spin this on Nylander. They treat the dude like garbage, to force him to Russia.

But how dare he put his family and desire to play in the NHL, above what Mr. McFail wants.

Posted by: CapsandRavens | September 30, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

True on the Ir vs LTIR with regards to salaries counting. That's why I did it with the 2 and then without, should've waited til Fehr was ready and then send Bourque through waivers, teams would have been more set on their rosters by then

Posted by: BBDwrestling | September 30, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Apologies if this was covered earlier but I was curious.
As I recall isn't/wasn't there an option for the caps to relase him and have to pay a % of the salary against the cap but not the full amount if that is the case ...then it would be nice to know why they continue to hold out hope that they will get a return on investment assuming there is no intention to play him.

Posted by: DBnMD | September 30, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

R67 is correct except that I don't place the blame on GMGM as much as I do on BB. GMGM's fault or error in hindsight was conceding the no-trade clause which is now biting him on the arse, however, at that time he had a different coach who used Nyls properly. Now the team has a coach that for unknown reasons seems to dislike Nyls to the point of not allowing him to play him if he is the last player alive. GMGM hands are tied. He erred by giving a Nyls such a clause, and BB would not use him, so he is stuck as there are no teams who will trade for a player that a coach has pretty much implied is not good and overpaid. No. I think BB has to take the biggest blame on this situation.

Posted by: hock1 | September 30, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Apologies if this was covered earlier but I was curious.
As I recall isn't/wasn't there an option for the caps to relase him and have to pay a % of the salary against the cap but not the full amount if that is the case ...then it would be nice to know why they continue to hold out hope that they will get a return on investment assuming there is no intention to play him.

Posted by: DBnMD

It has been discussed but to cover it again, if we buy out his contract then we still get a hit against our salary cap and if we had done that this past summer then our 10/11 salary would get a 3.4M hit and we need that money to sign Backstrom and Semin.

Posted by: pkendrick | September 30, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

1- Laing > Bourque

2- Good move by the Pens

3- We should now claim one of their players like Paul Bissonette who they like a lot and who can play defense and forward and provide a tough guy role

4- They don't want Nylander to ever play another nhl game for the Caps. That much was obvious from the way they talked about him and when they signed BMo. It didn't matter how great a shape Nyles was in, this team was done with him. It may seem unfair to some but thats how it is.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 30, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

oh and Boyd Kane is decent and he's had some limited nhl exposure but fwiw I think Pinizotto is the better recall.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 30, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Gentle summer leaves
Caps brass deep in thought
New recruits for penal battalions

Posted by: VladG | September 30, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Man this is laughable. The Caps waived an undersized, fourth line player who would have seen limited NHL action at best. It's not like they chopped Semin or Green or a cornerstone of the franchise. It's not like adding Bourque will propel the Penguins to a second Cup. Most likely he'll be in Scranton before you know it.

The moaning and wailing here is amazing. The sky is falling! Chill out people.

Posted by: southside721 | September 30, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

oh and Boyd Kane is decent and he's had some limited nhl exposure but fwiw I think Pinizotto is the better recall.

Posted by: cstanton1

I like Pinizotto but his salary is 537K which would still put us over (all be it only 30K but still over) the cap.

Posted by: pkendrick | September 30, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

@ pkendrick
Thanks I could not remember the number.

Posted by: DBnMD | September 30, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

for the fans who think its only Boudreau who doesn't like Nyles, think again. This org is run by McPhee. If he likes a player a lot, Boudreau will play him. Or at least give him a chance. Both McPhee and Bruce are on the same page regarding Nyles. It was more McPhee than Boudreau regarding the new shift away from the tough guy role. Boudreau is just following suit. But he has never coached a single team without an enforcer in the entire time he's been a pro coach, at any level. You think he suddenly changed his mind THIS year? No, its coming from above and he's playing along. Coaches like him have more pull down in the AHL then at the NHL level. All he had to do was ask Doug Yingst to pull him in a tough guy or two when he wanted it and his wish would get granted. At this level, the GMs run the show. Which is why you'll see Ron Wilson dress a roster he's not comfortable dressing in Toronto because Burke has stamped his name on that team in a very short time. And Burke's vision is diametrically opposite to Ron Wilson's vision

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 30, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

Bissonette was claimed by Phoenix, according to Tarik's post. But I think somebody in that mold wouldn't have been a terrible idea. Salary cap = c'est la vie.

Posted by: SmallZ827 | September 30, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I've been reading for days the debates over which forwards were going to get onto the roster. I didn't have a personal favorite but I loved the energy people were putting in analyzing bubble players--I interpreted this as "wow we have got some great depth!"

But I find it fascinating that the Pens keep picking off our players--I hated to see Brent Johnson go but I understood. He is a great backup goalie who plays solid games, that is until he gets hurt.

But this acquisition of Bourque seems more like gamesmanship to me. They know we need a strong player for that position, we send him down on waivers at the last possible minute to squeeze him through, and then they claim him at the last possible minute only to send him to the Baby Pens. Could also be trying to hurt the Bears roster too. But Flash and Fehr will be back and I'm not too worried. I'm pretty sure we can claim him right back if need be.

All in all, we must be doing something right if Shero and the Pens keep cherry picking off of the Caps roster.

And when Pen trolls start paying attention to our AHL guys trying to break in, that also tells me we are on the right track. We have them running scared.

FYI Pen trolls--please do keep on ranting on this board. I love to read the desperation, insecurity, and jealousy in your posts. The more you say we suck then the more I KNOW we DON"T!

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | September 30, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

thx for the info on the salary hit PKendrick. Makes sense now.

Frankly I don't think the Caps org cares a whole lot about losing Bourque. I don't think they saw him as a great prospect. Its unfortunate they got nothing for him considering they spent decently high draft picks for him and Keith Seabrook. That would be my concern.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 30, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Phx claimed Biznasty huh? guess that makes sense since they have no enforcer.

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 30, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

This does not hurt us significantly, but management did screw up here...you don't tell a kid he made the team and put him on waivers the next day. They knew they had nylander and they knew there was a good chance nylander was not going anywhere, dont give the kid false hope.

Worst of all now hes on the pens, if he was on any other team I would wish him the best, but now I just don't know.

Posted by: djotroy17 | September 30, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I am curious why everyone is so upset - They act like Bourque has earned the right but Fehr & Flash haven't?? When they return where was Bourque going to fit in?? He did not score at a higher rate then either of them in Hershey & is nowhere near as skilled. I would much rather have them then Bourque. I think his last name as gotten him a little to much respect and credit.

Posted by: gsboyce | September 30, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

@irockthered
You are a voice of reason amidst a sea of hysteria.....

Posted by: beeman | September 30, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

For those of you that think GMGM and Boudreau are incompetent, you are complete and total morons. This is what a hockey publication had to say about Bourque "has shown some flashes, but may ultimately not have what it takes to reach his potential."
These guys have raised the Capitals to the level of Stanley Cup contender. If they haven't done a good job then I don't know who has. Complete idiocy.

Posted by: croftonpost | September 30, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Did I not say that GMGM will not have Nyls in a Caps game ever again? How many proofs does anyone need?

Posted by: atybat | September 30, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The Pens are in love with our sloppy...

Posted by: TheLeaver | September 30, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I for one am happy for CB. This is his oppertunity to play in the big leagues. He was going to get his shot with us (for atleast a few weeks, or another team. Hate it had to be the Pens, but this is his big shot.

I am not mad at Nylander either, as alot of others are. He signed a deal and he was a deal that had protection clauses it it for his benefit, so be it. It is what it is. The fact he doesnt fit in with the team now is not his fault.

GMGM is doing all he can under the circumstances. He didnt want to lose CB, but had to attempt that waiver move to get under the cap.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | September 30, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This is really getting idiotic. Nylander is too expensive of a player to be a healthy scratch every night, and he's got to have a lot more talent than Boyd Kane. If there's one negative to Boudreau, it's been his inability to handle the Nylander situation. There has got to be a workable solution that either involves Nylander leaving the team or playing for the Caps. But to have Karl Alzner sent down and to lose Chris Bourque to the Penguins because of this issue is ridiculous. Stanley Cup contending teams can not have these types of issues. GMGM signed this contract, now deal with it!

Posted by: mpalmer4 | September 30, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I for one am happy for CB. This is his oppertunity to play in the big leagues. He was going to get his shot with us (for atleast a few weeks, or another team. Hate it had to be the Pens, but this is his big shot.

I am not mad at Nylander either, as alot of others are. He signed a deal and he was a deal that had protection clauses it it for his benefit, so be it. It is what it is. The fact he doesnt fit in with the team now is not his fault.

GMGM is doing all he can under the circumstances. He didnt want to lose CB, but had to attempt that waiver move to get under the cap.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | September 30, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

irockthered @ 1:10

Well put. Thank you. I hope many more "fans" consider this.

Posted by: gonchpup | September 30, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

irockthered @ 1:10

Well put. Thank you. I hope many more "fans" consider this.

Agreed, You couldn't have said it better.

Posted by: racer63 | September 30, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

This whole thing makes me sick!!!

Posted by: RongCapsFan | September 30, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, the Caps can't take the cap hit on Nylander if they release him this year or next year. They need every penny they can so they can give Nicky and Semin a nice pay raise. Can't they just say he's hurt and put him on LTIR? Works for everyone. He gets paid. Caps get cap relief. Ted gets his ring...

Posted by: jake81 | September 30, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Total bunk. Nylander better play out of his mind, because the disagreement between him and the bed that the organization has once again done with a high profile free agent makes this ridiculous. NO MORE NO TRADE CLAUSES for FAs.

Posted by: cblankner | September 30, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame Nylander. Blame McPhee & Boudreau. Why couldn't they waive Flash or Fehr? They've had their chances.

Posted by: afreeman3 | September 30, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Well Idk about Flash or Fehr but it is managements fault on this. They should of checked salary cap before announcing he was going to be on the roster, otherwise no one would of known abut Borque, he would of gone right back to the AHL until there was salary room.

I'm happy for Borque, if this means NHL time, but I'm disappointed at the same time.

Posted by: breaklance | September 30, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

...Boyd Kane?

Who the hell is Boyd Kane?!


He is a hell of a AHL hockey player, but can't cut in the NHL, kinda of like Flash.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | September 30, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Bourque is undersized but has talent.

He is not cut out to be a winger in the NHL and will now probably revert to being a center.

The fact the Caps had to waive a #2 draft pick with at least modest NHL credentials to get under the cap is a bit ridiculous.

The team is carrying ALL of those mediocre blueliners and the trade of any one of them would have freed up enough cap space to put Alzner back on the ice and to have kept Bourque.

Posted by: leopard09 | September 30, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

What has Nylander done but be Nylander?
He practices harder than anyone at Kettler, keeps it classy in front of the cameras, and was a cultural mentor & committed friend to Backstrom. Yeah, what a jerk.

Posted by: joanhen | September 30, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but who the hell is Boyd Kane? Am I alone in being blidsided by his emergence? What about one of the other guys who were just sent down? Can they not be called back?

Posted by: joeduffus | September 30, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Did Pit do this just to piss us off?

I don't want to hear complaining to GMGM about this. He had no choice because of deadweight Nylander. Bourque had to go on waivers because our 23 roster spots were already completely filled. As for playing Nyls, ugh no. Can he still play? maybe. Is he a fit for this team? Obviously not. You cannot play someone who does not mesh well with the coach, no matter how talented he is. Hockey is a chemistry sport, not "how many all-stars can I shove on this roster" (btw Snyder football is the same way). I don't mean ill will towards Nylander or Clark but to be honest we lost a younger player with excellent potential who would have been a great 4th line threat to keep two aging vets who will spend most of the season collecting dust on the bench. Both have done well for the caps in the past and both are good guys, but their place is no longer in Washington. I would much rather see Bourque, Aucoin, Laing, or even Giroux on the roster.

As for Boyd Kane? Yeah that I don't get. I think Giroux is a RW, but I thought Laing was LW and Aucoin while a C could play LW. Can anyone clarify their positions for me?

Posted by: mcgratsp | October 1, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Great asset management, Mr. McPhee! Gives away a young player for nothing while a trade has been long overdue! Boo! Let's hope this is a lesson learned and we won't see the same happen to really important prospects like Alzner or Carlson.

Posted by: binnenreim | October 1, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

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