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Boz Talks to McPhee

Here's a sneak preview of Thomas Boswell's column examining the Caps current three-game losing streak. He spoke with GMGM today. Enjoy!

By Matt Vita  |  March 6, 2009; 1:44 PM ET
 
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Last night, he was so frustrated he went in his suite muttering, "I'm going back into my cave."


That's how I felt.

Posted by: uncatim | March 6, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Bring your brooms on Sunday. No better way to clean up the mess then a 4 game sweep of the Pens.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 6, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Nice column and nice read Boswell.

Posted by: mauree | March 6, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

That a real good article and hits the nail on the head. As I've said a bunch on various links, I don't think the trade deadline was the answer to the issues the team is having right now - there was no one we could have brought in that would have given this team a better chance in the post-season without mortgaging two or three years of growth. I'll continue to say that I think Feds leadership on the team will be what gets them out of this rut and ready for playoff sucess - he's the only one on this team that has the experience in his back pocket. It's probably a lot to put on his shoulders but I'm hefting it up there right now.

Posted by: saintex | March 6, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Bruce and GMGM must feel like broken records always talking about how we need to get back to fundamentals. They're absolutely correct and it seems so simple, but for some reason the Caps seem to forget the lesson once they get out on the ice.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Good article. Last night I saw that the players were tentative. They don't want to take penalties, so they ease up on guys and get in a bad position. They over-think and don't shoot because maybe a teammate has a better shooting lane. Meanwhile the game is so fast, that this over-thinking can kill you. It's a process to work through it.

Posted by: KlayKey | March 6, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

They'll get thru it. As much as the past couple of weeks have been frustrating me to death...I know they have what it takes to get past it and do something great.

Posted by: CapsKH | March 6, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Wait, you mean they AREN'T going to beat every opponent in every game and trade for the best possible talent available after they posted their first winning since since 2003?

This is an outrage, I demand satisfaction!

Posted by: Section117 | March 6, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Crosby is a BALLSLAPPER.

Why, I'll bet he is planning to slap some on Sunday.

UNLEASH THE FURY!!!!!!

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

sounds like a song, Section117. :)

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Great piece. Spot on in talking about fundamentals. Seems like lately every play is treated like a last second rush. One guy speeds up the ice practically alone, tries to deke his way into the zone and take a shot. Result? Lots of turnovers, lots of blocks. LOTS of others make it on goal (40-ish shots per game in many losing efforts lately=proof), but they are gobbled up by the goalie from long distance or they rebound out and no one's around to fight for the biscuit because there's no support.

Teams are onto this, and I, for one, think we need to mix in some more dump from time to time. It'll eliminate some of the overthinking because you just chip it in and skate hard after it. Turn it into a physical game. We've got the speed and size, so let's mix it up a little and make the team a little more multidimensional. Besides it's a transition we need to make for the playoff style of game anyway.

Just my novice thoughts, impressions, and suggestions.

Posted by: BigRed8 | March 6, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

simple hockey

Posted by: doughless | March 6, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

UNLEASH THE FFFFFRRRREEEEAAAKKKKIIIINNNNNN FURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

All that said, I'm not a doomsday person. The Caps aren't going to win ALL the time. Other top teams are having their slumps this season, too. It's not the end of the world. The guys will regroup and get back to better hockey.

IOW, two thumbs up to the sarcasm from Section 117.

Posted by: BigRed8 | March 6, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Mother, be a sport and please pass me another Red Bull, would you? There's a love.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

ballslapper

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

bb and gmgm are preaching a simple lesson yet the caps seem not to get the message....I wonder why? Is it because English is a second language for half the team. Maybe we need to get some more interpreters for the team. Isn't that what we have federov for? Who can we get to translate work ethic for Nylander

Posted by: wendel2 | March 6, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

oucheee mama!

Nyls will sneak up and poke you in your piehole for your racist commentary. I'm calling him now.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

as a lawyer, you should know better than to slander.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"Before they reach the prize they seek, the Caps will have many a growing pain. So, they and their fans better get used to it. They've arrived. Now the hard part starts.
'This,' McPhee said, 'is reality therapy.'"

Got that right!!


From the previous:

117:
RE: "A soccer allegiance and the Gary Green era will do that to you."
That and being a "real" Caps fan ... ;-)

mauree:
RE: "Not liking the guy is one thing, but that's way outside the limits of decency and respect."
You tell 'em! Oh and, check your email. :-)

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

hey whygo how can it be racist they are from the same Caucasian race just from different countries ('cept Brash)
Do u suffer from LCS?
(limited vocabulary syndrome)

Posted by: wendel2 | March 6, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Crosby likes Semin

Posted by: gtydings | March 6, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

are you my mother?

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

"Wait, you mean they AREN'T going to beat every opponent in every game and trade for the best possible talent available after they posted their first winning since since 2003?

This is an outrage, I demand satisfaction!"

It's not *that* they're losing, it's to whom they are losing, and how.

They're losing to teams like the Avs and the Kings, and they're losing by 3 and 4 goals...

At least last night's game was close, but they also only got one by a goalie who was literally picked up off of waivers the *day before*.

The "Doom and Gloom" people are overreacting, but you all pretending like there's absolutely nothing wrong with the team are equally silly.

Posted by: VTDuffman | March 6, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

my vocabulary is fine. Your comment was insensitive at best, very likely you are a racist and this comment showed us all a peek behind your curtain.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

xenophobia IS racism

doofus

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Crosby likes all cute Russians. It's the homley ones (Malkin, Ovechkin) he has trouble with.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Fedorov

doofus

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

You're wrong whygo

racism usually entails distinction based on physical characteristic differences, such as skin colour, hair type, facial features, etc, xenophobia implies behaviour based on the idea that the other is foreign to or originates from outside the community or nation.

Posted by: gtydings | March 6, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Great "Hockey" type posting! Where is the rainbow for this site?

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | March 6, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

@VTDuffman - I don't think anyone is saying there's absolutely nothing wrong - obviously there's something going on right now, and I think GMGM's analysis in Boswell's article is pretty insightful. But every team goes through rough spots, and with the right attitude and good coaching they get through it and get back on track. There's cause for some concern, perhaps, but certainly no cause for panic at this point. The Caps obviously can't just keep doing what they're doing, because that's not working, but I'm sure the coaches are on top of it.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

OK, schoolboy. You are technically correct.

does the term 'colloquial' ring a bell?

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

For goodness' sake, let's just change "racist" to either "bigoted" or "prejudiced" and move on, shall we? Let's focus on the hockey here, people.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Does the term "picklesniffer" ring a belll?

Posted by: gtydings | March 6, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:00 am EST PUCKDADDY

Minus xenophobia and racism, Cherry has point about Ovechkin
By Greg Wyshynski

OK, you win.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait to see powder-blue Crysby jerseys on Sunday!!

Posted by: CapsKH | March 6, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

capsfan

Mocking people who think that losing 3 in a row, 4 of the last 5 at home, and 5 of the last 7 at home is a bad thing with sarcastic posts like "How DARE they not win every game!" Isn't doing anyone any good.

There's some sizeable holes in this team, and I'd wager that for most of the season, great offense was covering that up. Well, what happens when the offense sputters? We're looking at it.

Posted by: VTDuffman | March 6, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

capsfan26:
I think you are prejudiced against non-hockey posts. (Does that count as a hockey post?)

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

The "Doom and Gloom" people are overreacting, but you all pretending like there's absolutely nothing wrong with the team are equally silly.

Posted by: VTDuffman | March 6, 2009 3:07 PM

I think you're confusing perspective with complacency. Teams hit a bump or two during the course of the year, like the West Coast road trip. When they came back, they won 17 of their next 21. They lost 3 more in a row, and won 7 of their next 10 (including one at Pittsburgh).

S happens. Get a grip (collectively, not personally).

Posted by: Section117 | March 6, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Crosby has already spoken about the game and is thrilled for the matchup with Semin.

on Semin,

"I hope he covers me and bangs into me. I want Semin all over me, I love being covered by Semin."

Posted by: gtydings | March 6, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I have this feeling that once the guys get out of this funk that much fury will be unleashed. Seriously. I think they are all snakebit right now and just need something positive to re-rock the red. If we can get someone a little unpredictible to score the first important goal on Sunday that might go a long way. Would love to see it be Steckel, Bradley, or Flash. Then the regulars can chip in.

Just curious...when Ovi plays who sits out? Provided of course we do not keep Fedorov playing D.

Posted by: Kim-3 | March 6, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

heehee
that's more like it

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, well! Now we know who wendel2 really is. It's none other than Don Cherry.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

wendel2:
do they need an interpreter to go from english to canadian too?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 6, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

@Boo - darn right I am, and no it's not, so cut it out, you non-hockey-posting ninny! (j/k of course ;))

@Secion117 - you hit it right on the head - we're trying to put things in perspective, but that doesn't mean we can get complacent. They need to figure out what's going on and fix it, but making it out to be a bigger deal than it is will only make them more nervous, and that won't help anyone.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

linguistic menage-a-trios.

"coach said to BACKCHECK!"

"sorry, I thought he said CHECK BACK!"

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

or czech back

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

WhyGo
don't ever stop

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 6, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

@gtydings: What an excellent, even seminal, posting!

Posted by: yosemite_sam | March 6, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

let me interrupt some of the trash talk for a second and help me understand the following:
When a player commits a penalty while playing hard or hustling, he is called selfish, dumb, idiot, etc., and the penalty is labeled "lazy". The coach b!tches about it and calls him out on the news, then on the next game when the player doesn't hustle for being afraid of committing a penalty the player is called lazy, idiot, etc., and the coach b!tches because the player is not taking chances, he is "holding the stick to tight", etc., and he is blamed for losing a game.
Is it my imagination or is the coach passing the buck? It is my strong belief that mix messages are not very productive.
Oh, well. carry on with the trash talk.

Posted by: hock1 | March 6, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Crosby has already spoken about the game and is thrilled for the matchup with Semin.

on Semin,

"I hope he covers me and bangs into me. I want Semin all over me, I love being covered by Semin."

Posted by: gtydings | March 6, 2009 3:25 PM


That made me laugh pretty hard.

I'm not worried about a slump. A slump is just a slump. Its not concerning until it becomes a slide. Then you have to worry.

The only thing that irritates me is the way some of the rebuilding has been done. The D were left to fend for themselves for a few years with no veteran leadership, the story was always that players wouldn't come to DC because there was no incentive, unlike now, the team is missing a few pieces that time isn't going to fix (you have hands or you dont have hands).

I just think you make a concerted effort everytime you can, not pick and shoose and say "well, not this year, despite our current standing". Detroit is not washington, but they didnt do anything because they dont really have to. They added Hossa last year, after already winning the cup. No more Detroit comparisons, please.

Posted by: oo7 | March 6, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

117:
"I think you're confusing perspective with complacency."
Well put.

capsfan26:
I don't think I have ever been called a ninny before ... certainly not a NHPN!! Good thing you cleared that up with a j/k before I got angry (and no one wants to see Boo angry ... ;-)).

Kirk:
Why must you encourage him? :-P

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

players will tell you, you can't win. no matter which way you go, you lose.

unless you hit that rare time (as the Caps did a while back) when you are in the zone and it doesn't matter what you do, it is always productive.

they need to get back in the zone.

anybody got a map?

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

hock1:
I have to disagree with you there ... first of all, if I was BB I would be FURIOUS, so I don't blame him. Secondly, I have heard BB talk about the difference between a stupid penalty and a good one before, so I don't think he is talking out of both sides of his mouth. I get the sense that he is pretty clear about the expectations of his players. Lastly, he is the first to admit that you can't win 'em all ... I think he gives them an appropriate amount of leeway. (I just realized that, while I have said it my entire life, I don't think I have ever typed the word leeway before ... go figure.)

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Caps need to get rid of the cancer type player ..they don't have to trade them but they should at least try to rehabilitate them
Semin...You play every night or go to the minors and play when you want there
OV...This game and this team is not all about you...your not the T.O of the Caps
and Nylander ...Just plan get rid of him!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | March 6, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

@Boo - of course I'm kidding! I don't read the comments or post here often, but the few times I've been here, you've cracked me up. (I'd say that WhyGo has cracked me up too, but I wouldn't want to encourage him, ya know.)

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Nice try 1907, little obvious though.

Posted by: mikebrady1 | March 6, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

wow, that nose on my face looks like a CANCER!

beter cut it off...

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow, comparing Ovechkin to T.O. is so incredibly ridiculous that I'm going to assume that was meant strictly to provoke a fight, and not because anyone actually thinks there is any similarity whatsoever between the two of them aside from the fact that they are both adult males who get paid to play sports.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Boo-:
sorry - but WhyGo's a funny *'er and i'd rather smile than b*tch, piss or mope

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 6, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Boo, when did you sneak out of the dungeen?

Posted by: Steve_R | March 6, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

from previous.

mauree:
RE: "Not liking the guy is one thing, but that's way outside the limits of decency and respect."

I didn't start the page, happen to come across it, and was pointing it out. I never said it was right :)

Posted by: rarcr | March 6, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

boo
It is interesting we see it so differently. I will try to pay more attention. By the way, I like BB and I can not argue with his coaching success, I just disagree with him once in a while. but I will always defer to him when it comes to coaching.

Posted by: hock1 | March 6, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

... or as a really lame attempt to be funny and/or sarcastic. If so, epic fail.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

capsfan26:
LOL!! I knew you were kidding (even without the j/k). But if you were not, I would have laughed at it, anyway!! ;-) BTW, thanks for not encouraging WhyGo ... Kirk does enough of that all by himself (I still have not quite recovered from Kirk calling WhyGo his favorite *sniff-sniff*). Anyway, post away, my friend - the more rationale minds here, there better!!

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

@captain curt dont think so but englich to american might be sticky for you awwllll

Posted by: wendel2 | March 6, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

epic troll

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Well laugh if you will at my comment but the Caps will never be a Cup contender until they address those problems Semin OV and Nylander

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | March 6, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I fail to see how the league's leading goal scorer and MVP contender is a "problem," but maybe I'm just dense. *shrug*

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The middle-talent players have always had to find a way to co-exist with those that are better than them. I think our guys do it better than most. You live and die with your top-end, and I am willing to jump off a cliff for this particular top-end group.

gonna take a couple of you with me, though.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

When I started here Semin was playing every 2nd day it seemed "I" was the one who called him out ...now it seems like he is playing threw any nagging injuries ....someone must have said something to him... Just keep on him!

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | March 6, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

wendel2:
you're funny too - i couldn't tell before now though

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 6, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

SC

So we'll just give them to, say, Montreal for pucks? What the heck is to address? That they're so bloody good?

Nylander's having a bad year, granted. Maybe he's on the wrong team now and needs a more slowdown type offense like NJ or something. He had over 80 points the year before he became a Cap! He was on pace for over 70 last year when he was injured. That's not chicken feed.

Go back to Canada and get in bed with Grapes. You two are from the same ilk.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

capitals man.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 6, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

WhyGo:
remind me never to stand next to you on a hike through the mountains - i can be close by and help push some of them - if you name names

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 6, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Kirk:
"i'd rather smile than b*tch, piss or mope"
I can't argue with that.

Steve:
Friday is Leeguru's day off so I was able to escape the dungeen.

hock1:
I'm not saying you are wrong so please don't feel like you have to "pay more attention" on my behalf. Just a different perspective, I suppose. Keep in mind that I may be a bit biased because I think that BB is all that and a bag of pucks, but I think that because he has done a pretty amazing job of leading this team. I have a great deal of respect for him and listen to a lot of what he has to say, so I think there is more going on there than most people realize. Anyway, I'm glad that you like him, too. Oh and, for the record, I do disagree with him from time to time ... just because I like the guy does not mean that I am a blind follower of the Church of Gabby! :-)

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

metaphor. I probably won't even get out of my hammock to get another beer.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Dont get personal Greg S
Grapes was just trying to help the Caps, and O.V.
Don loves this game and hates it when anyone makes a mockery of it

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | March 6, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

where is the schoolboy to tell me:

"it was actually HYPERBOLE".

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

call me crazy, but discussing the best player in the world in a negative light could be mistaken for trying to NOT help the caps.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Except there's nothing wrong with OV or Semin. There is something DECIDEDLY wrong with Grapes.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

And how EXACTLY is cutting Ovie in half trying to help him?

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

In real news...

Roberts announced he's retiring since no one picked him up off waivers from TB

Also, Danny Briere is out again with the same groin issue he had before.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Man, this could get ugly. Anyone who thinks Ovi is selfish and not a team player is effing blind! ...not to mention someone who thinks Grapes is a good spokesman for the league.

Posted by: CapsKH | March 6, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh darn, Briere out again. :(

Man, this groin thing is like the plague this year!

Posted by: CapsKH | March 6, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Hockey Game Question to get everyone back on track. Opinions
Who won the Bradley fight last night??????

Posted by: billd2 | March 6, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

To whoever created the Jeff Schultz Sucks page in Facebook:

I am at a loss for words - NO. Wait a minute, I found them, you are an A-HOLE.

Posted by: hock1 | March 6, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl1eG070D_g

Top 10 goal celebrations.

This Ovie goal celebration stuff is nuts. It has been going on for years....Just a sour bunch of Canucks that don't like that the best player is not from Canada.

Posted by: SA-Town | March 6, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

@CapsHK - agreed, and any post on here that suggests either of those things should not be dignified with a response, imo.

As for Briere, gee, I'm so upset. He's just such a class act, that Danny Briere, and everyone just loves that guy so much. What a shame for him not to be playing. Excuse me while I wipe the tears off my keyboard.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Bradley was trying everything to get a hit on that bob-and-weave peanut. Brash was standing by watching with a big smile on his face.

nobody won, it was kinda lame.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Precisely!

@billd2...

I'm not really sure...I would say Brads cuz he seemed to get a couple more punches in than the other guy. I haven't seen any replays tho, saw it from the stands. But I also have a Brads jersey, so I'm biased. :)

Posted by: CapsKH | March 6, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Don't get me started on Briere ...

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

each and every player (OK, one or two exceptions, but only one or two) that plays in the NHL and AHL derserve a certain minimum amount of respect. They have worked hard for thousands of hours in a brutal sport that requires a ton of specialized movement and thought and reaction.

Call them a bum once in a while or call for them to be traded or cut. But please, don't go so low as to start a web page derideing an indidual.

low-end

go back to the trailer park, your mom-girlfriend-aunt is calling (same person)

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Grits?

Posted by: richmondphil | March 6, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Boo,
No problem, I didn't take that way. And I agree with what you say about being a lot more than what it appears, that is why I said I need to pay more attention.

Posted by: hock1 | March 6, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I think one of my fave signs at the playoffs last year was "Briere = *insert drawing of a cat*"

HA, still makes me chuckle. Yes, how much Briere will be missed at next week's game if his groin doesn't improve.

Posted by: CapsKH | March 6, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I was there too,
Thought Brads took a couple upper cuts inside that might have really hurt. I kinda got to give it to the other guy by a nose, (no pun intended), oh ok It was intended

Posted by: billd2 | March 6, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

hock1:
Cool ... cuz I don't come here to start trouble! :-)

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Can one of you tech-sazzy folks get us a link to a picture (that you create, of course) of two gleaming 8-balls with a caption that says:

Cindy - try slapping these!

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I didn't like Briere even before he speared Ovechkin. Since then, he has been public enemy #1 as far as I'm concerned. And that includes Crosby. I dislike Crosby for his whining (who doesn't?) but I really, really hate Briere.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm much more of a Brads fan for the way he plays and his humor...definitely not for his fighting skills. :)

Posted by: CapsKH | March 6, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

savvy

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

seriously, that is awesome.

two 8-balls and "Cindy - try slapping these"

DO it, DO it.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

zoot suits.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 6, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

just getting caught up on the posts ...Grape NEVER said OV is going to get cut in half he said another player will fix O.V wagon if he continues to jump around rubbing in the goals he scores Grapes never said "OK boys go out and hit O.V.

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | March 6, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Boo!

I thought you LIKED Briere!

*quick runs and hides under his desk*

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

apologist. he most certainly did indicate that somebody would and (by implicit intent)should cut him in half.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: richmondphil | March 6, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Greg:
You're so lucky I don't know where that desk is!!! :-P

Posted by: Boo- | March 6, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

This here nuclear bomb is for peaceful purposes.

let us now commercialize it.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting:

two 8-balls

Cindy - try slapping these!

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

StanleyCup1907

Yes, he did say that. He said:

"...predicting somebody is going to get him and get him good...be sitting in the wings and will cut him in half..."

He called on the Dmen out there, the "good Canadian boys" to cut him in half.

He's an major 5 hole.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow, SC1907 is here even on a non game day.

Posted by: rachel216 | March 6, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

anyone see cullens backchecking story on tsn yet?
some pretty interesting stars, and some words on fedorov.


Posted by: oo7 | March 6, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

HAHA, now this is a must read:

UP ALONG THE COAST of the Lake Of The Woods in northwestern Ontario lies the port town of Kenora, home of the 1907 Stanley Cup Champion Kenora Thistles.

The Thistles were very much a product of their times. Before there was a united professional league, amateur senior leagues reigned supreme in both popularity and talent. Any town with a few good skaters could form a squad and try their luck against other nearby towns.

Kenora (or Rat Portage as it was known until 1905) was one of just many Canadian midwestern boom towns that, after a hardworking summer season, felt the desire for an off-season past-time. That past-time was ice hockey, played on many of the thousands of frozen lakes that speckled the Canadian winter countryside.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

stats not stars

Posted by: oo7 | March 6, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

bbbbwwwwwaaaahhhhhaaaa

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Rat Portage!

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

WhyGo

That's sweet!

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

OK, I crossed the line on that one. Rat Portage made me laugh. I'm over it.

I now pay homage to the hero's of seasons long past:

http://www.geocities.com/kinhobo/kenora/KenoraTeam2.jpg

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

WhyGo, why do you steal my thunder?

:(

Posted by: richmondphil | March 6, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I would have given much to have seen those men play a game. I love this game.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Phil:

what was that post. very interesting company. DC area is full of places like that. for good or ill, God help us.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Love it. It's about 136 miles north of the US border and that's Northwestern Ontario??

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

and you left out the best part. it defines Cherry and sc1907 perfectly.

Within a few years, the Thistles had assembled an awesome roster, boasting some of the greatest players of the game. Though their Stanley Cup stewardship was short, only two months, the Kenora Thistles' influence remaines undiminished, indelibly imprinted upon the formative pages of the National Hockey League. To this day their story remains an inextinguishable source of simple, old-time hockey idealism in this modern age of corporate-sponsored marketing, cynicism and greed.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 6, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I agree. 8 players and 4 coaches. Wow!

Of course to see the game, you'd have frozen your keester off. That's back when the sweaters really were sweaters.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Timmins is north, this place is definitely south.

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm still laughing over Rat Portage.

Posted by: capsfan26 | March 6, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Latitude-wise they're both south of Winnipeg. Still, something like 95% of Canadians are within 100 miles of the US border?

I love Canada. I really, really do.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

some funny dudes and dudettes in this group.

first some alarmist thoughts: could it be that other teams have finally found a flaw in our breakout? There could be a problem in the system itself. BB should be able to tweak.

good teams don't play 110% every night - they know they'll get burned out if they do. You have to be able to play with efficiency and intelligence to go far, to not needlessly burn effort. Passionate teams win once in a while; intelligent and wise teams that know when to turn it up and when to tone it down, do better. (Remember what GMGM said about Varly? Same applies to teams as a whole.) We can't try to score every shift - we have to feel into the game and know what's appropriate. We also need a shutdown mode - in the playoffs when you have a lead, make the other team chase the game and play more counterattacking hockey.

Posted by: WritingLight | March 6, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

@ StanleyCup1907

You comments are as stupid as advising Pitts to dump Malkin or Detroit should dump Datsyuk & Zetterberg, well Detroit are current champs no matter what Crusty Old Cherry or you say about "Weak European Players"

Posted by: Hazz | March 6, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

@ StanleyCup1907

You comments are as intelligent as advising Pitts to dump Malkin or Detroit should dump Datsyuk & Zetterberg, well Detroit are current champs no matter what Crusty Old Cherry or you say about "Weak European Players"

Posted by: Hazz | March 6, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

That is THE Art Ross. The one with the trophy named after him that Ovechkin has won and will win in the future.

Karma is going to smack me for my disrespect, wait and see.

http://www.geocities.com/kinhobo/kenora/KenoraTeam2.jpg

Posted by: WhyGo | March 6, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I agree. 8 players and 4 coaches. Wow!
Of course to see the game, you'd have frozen your keester off. That's back when the sweaters really were sweaters.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 6, 2009 5:11 PM

as well as 'other' parts - that if cindy slapped them - they would shatter like they had been dipped in nitrogen

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 6, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for making fun of other teams fans coming here for the sole purpose of trolling.

But I don't get why the Kenora Thistles are materials for laughs,

Should respect them, no? Am I too naive?

More From Wikipedia:

The smallest municipality to produce a Stanley Cup champion team is Kenora, Ontario; the town had a population of about 4,000 when the Kenora Thistles captured the Cup in January 1907. Aided by future Hall of Famers Art Ross and "Bad" Joe Hall, the Thistles defeated the Montreal Wanderers in a two-game, total goals challenge series. The Thistles successfully defended the Cup once, against a team from Brandon, Manitoba. In March 1907, the Wanderers challenged the Thistles to a rematch. Despite an improved lineup, the Thistles lost the Cup to Montreal.

In 1968 the Kenora Muskies began playing in the Manitoba Junior Hockey League. In 1975, the Team changed it name to the Thistles in honor of the Stanley Cup team.

Posted by: mauree | March 6, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

StanleyCup1907, you really are a sourpuss. Having such a bad opinion of Ovi and Semin. I hate to think of where the Caps would be without them.

Okay, Nylander is having a poor year and would probably fit better elsewhere.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | March 6, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Stanleycup = Chief

Ignore the a-hole

Posted by: majiksea | March 6, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

mighty thistles of kenora.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 6, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow Carolina means business, anybody watching that game?

Posted by: mauree | March 6, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

@mauree

Yeah can't believe we played down to such a terrible team right?

You know a team like Boston wouldn't play down to a team like...Phoenix and lose to them. Boston has too much grit to let that happen...

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | March 6, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I hope Boston continues to stumble, its all good timing. Slumps aren't a problem when you're this far ahead. Thats what the cushion is for, and they did a great job of building that cushion.

Check this out and take it for what its worth.

http://tsn.ca/columnists/scott_cullen/?id=270039&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_nhl

Posted by: oo7 | March 6, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Yeah nice article oo7, and I like the statistics site mentioned there as well. Interesting stat the Corsi.

Posted by: mauree | March 6, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

grits are good.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 6, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

"first some alarmist thoughts: could it be that other teams have finally found a flaw in our breakout? There could be a problem in the system itself. BB should be able to tweak"

I forgot which game it was but the clearly inferior team bottled up the middle and made the Caps look like fools. Almost every game since then the same thing has happened. No doubt that advance scouts noticed this and it is being employed game after game.

Posted by: MKadyman | March 6, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure they pump a sedative gas into the DC metrorail. Tarik, maybe after a loss you could, um.....
This is -exactly- the time for the Caps to be reminded what it takes to be 'good enough'. Windjammer might have thought this was going to be fun, but this year's Caps will play last year's Caps--desperate teams with more to prove than to lose--for the next month. I'm using 16, 91, and 55 as key indicators for the next week.
Call Clutterbuck to the Kenora Thistles for Art Ross and a sturdy tractor. You heard it here first.

Posted by: redlineblue | March 6, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Been on this board on and off for a couple months, but think I'm gonna have to depart for good. Reading these posts indicates the age limit has dropped too low for me to participate--only 15-or-under permitted.

S'long

Posted by: capsfan77 | March 6, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm not worried about a slump. A slump is just a slump. Its not concerning until it becomes a slide. Then you have to worry.

The only thing that irritates me is the way some of the rebuilding has been done. The D were left to fend for themselves for a few years with no veteran leadership, the story was always that players wouldn't come to DC because there was no incentive, unlike now, the team is missing a few pieces that time isn't going to fix (you have hands or you dont have hands).

I just think you make a concerted effort everytime you can, not pick and shoose and say "well, not this year, despite our current standing". Detroit is not washington, but they didnt do anything because they dont really have to. They added Hossa last year, after already winning the cup. No more Detroit comparisons, please.

Posted by: oo7 | March 6, 2009 3:48 PM

Ding Ding. Yes, no more Detroit comparisons. No more Alzner=Lidstrom comparisons. No more excuses for the lack of true veteran defensive leadership. No more.

Posted by: cstanton1 | March 6, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Mkady, that was the Avalanche modeling how to smother Caps at center.

Posted by: redlineblue | March 6, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

From The Onion:

Sidney Crosby Takes Advantage Of Player's Discount At Penguins Store

PITTSBURGH—By using his 15 percent employee discount, Penguins center and team captain Sidney Crosby has reportedly saved hundreds of dollars on a variety of team-licensed garments, knit caps, and pencil cups for family and friends. "I've had my eye on the Penguins black pleather varsity jacket for quite a while, so I figured that now was the time to benefit from the $11.24 I could save," Crosby said. "I got my sister Taylor a Penguins hoodie, bought my dad a cool visor, and gave my mom a Sidney Crosby 24-karat gold commemorative coin. Oh, and I got Evgeni Malkin a Malkin jersey, because Malkin's his favorite player." Sidney Crosby's teammates honored the 21-year-old Tuesday by wearing the number 87 Sidney Crosby jerseys he had recently bought for them.

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 7, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I love The Onion ...

Graphics about the strengths/weaknesses of Gretzky and Brodeur:

http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/wayne_gretzky

http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/martin_brodeur

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 7, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

@MKadyman and redlineblue: The Avalanche didn't reinvent the wheel. They, and other inferior teams use the neutral zone trap against every team once they have the lead. The NJ Devils have perfected the use of the neutral zone trap though because they know how to attack from that posture. The inferior teams simply dump the puck over and over and over and over. It makes for a boring 3rd period when they have the lead, but it is effective.

Posted by: fanohock1 | March 7, 2009 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Good morning! If you need a hockey fix today, the Bears play at 4:00 at Toronto. Audio of the game at sportsjuice.com. And here's an article from the Patriot-News:

http://www.pennlive.com/hersheybears/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1236402611173850.xml&coll=1

Posted by: tess2201 | March 7, 2009 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Fan, I didn't think COL invented the trap. I also didn't think they had the talent or discipline to impose it so completely on the Caps, who promptly abandoned passing and cohesion in favor of 1-on-3 attack, one-handed passing, and 1/2hearted backcheck.
Having the Devils beat Caps that way would be far less frustrating, to me, than watching Colorado do it!
Anyway: our -team- can beat resurgent Pens. Our -individuals- can't. Here's hoping the right group shows up.

Posted by: redlineblue | March 7, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

@ redlineblue

If I heard it correctly the Av's have been in the most one goal games/losses in the league, so as bad as there record is, they can beat any team on any given night if that team isnt on it's game. There is so much parity in the league yo better be on your "A" game to be able to win.

I might be alone but I think a little 3 game losing streak isnt all that bad, helps bring the focus back. I think the "run" we had last year actually hurt us a little bit because once we made the play-offs it was like our goal had been accomplished.

Lets win tomorrow and put the pens 5 gamer on ice!

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | March 7, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

It must be rough Caps fans have to wait until Sunday to see if the Caps can continue their streak.
Dont worry relax and catch "Coach's Corner"

Posted by: StanleyCup1907 | March 7, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

the trap works against thecaps for one major reason: they abhor dumping the puck and then digging in the corners and forechecking on the top two lines. Brash, Bradley and Fehr do it with aplomb, but those lines don't score as much so the effort only pins the other team in their zone, which is what you want from lines 3-4 anyway. I've been saying for two years that brashear can only dig a puck out of the corner and send it to the middle; why no one on that line goes to the middle for his pass is beyond me.

once one team shows a vulnerability, the other teams jump on it and no system implements team single minded cohesiveness like the trap.

Semins dump and chase comment from early in the season comes to mind.

Posted by: oo7 | March 7, 2009 10:11 AM | Report abuse

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