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Brashear Suspended for 6 Games

The NHL has suspended Caps enforcer Donald Brashear for six games for his actions before and during Game 6 at Madison Square Garden.

From NHL.com:

Brashear was suspended one game for initiating contact with Rangers forward Colton Orr during the pre-game warm-up. Brashear was suspended for five additional games for a blind-side hit on New York forward Blair Betts at 9:54 of the first period.

We'll have more on this soon, so stay tuned. In the meantime, what do you think?

By Lindsay Applebaum  |  April 27, 2009; 3:57 PM ET
 
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Comments

WOW 6 GAMES - I was wrong

Posted by: DCSPORTS | April 27, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

a shoulder hit to an unsuspecting player. perhaps brash should wear a whistle to warn guys that hes coming. late? probably. targetting his head, doubtful. he was targetting his whole body. if he was targeting his head, he would have lifted his elbow. both guys are 6'3".

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | April 27, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? 6 freakin games? Thats a huge suspension for what amounts to a questionable late hit.

After watching the replays - the hit was a little late. BUT IT WAS A LEGAL HIT! 100% shoulder.

Campbell is an idiot. How can you let hits to the head go on undisiplined all season and then nail a guy for 5 games during the playoffs?!?!?

I would have accepted this more if the sentences were reversed - 5 games for the pre-game incident and 1 for the hit to the head. It sends a strong message that warmups are not the place to send a message and it shows the players the NHL is concerned about hits to the head without going completly over-board.

This is ruling is a joke and I hope Brash appeals.

Posted by: patrone | April 27, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I will take the 1 game for hitting Orr before during warm-ups but 5 for that hit is RIDICULOUS.

Posted by: pkendrick | April 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

its called "new Yorker whinning about 'pooooooooor meeeeeeeee' get what they want."

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Six games is absurd. Avery hits Jurcina with the butt of his stick after the play is dead and receives nothing. Brashear delivers a check with his shoulder and gets six games.

Way to regulate the result instead of the conduct. Screw Bettman.

Posted by: HeShootsHeScores | April 27, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

his elbow went up at the end. he should have gotten a penalty in game for a late hit (brash didn't start to move toward him till after the pass). i think history + pregame thing added days.

i'm surprised on 6 days given how weak the nhl has been on blows to the head. that said, this has been a terrible series for brash. phily last year was much better. this year, he can't touch the ice w/ out making a direct route to the penalty box.

Posted by: am_jim | April 27, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

That is an excessive suspension.

1 game for the Orr thing - absolutely.

The hit was legal. If you look at the replay, it is the orbital bone that lands on the ice, not impacted by the shoulder pad, that was broken. Suspend the MSG ice then, not the Donald!

Posted by: LukasWP | April 27, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I remember when I liked New York City... This is insane. The NHL is trying to make an example out of him and their 'anti fighting' push. Blah.

Posted by: AMEason52 | April 27, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I got called out this morning by another poster as acting like a whiny Rags fan for calling shenanigans on the NHL. What else can this be called when Brash gets 6 and no Ranger player has been suspended for anything except Avery by his own team? There is NO consistency!

Besides, Ranger fans whine after losses to make excuses for their team being outplayed. I said nothing except for after a Caps win

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 27, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

What is a definition of "unsuspecting"?.. One can always say he was not suspecting a hit, and then what, suspend everyone hitting?

Posted by: fnralch | April 27, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight:

Throwing a bottle and hitting a fan, plus threatening another with a stick - 1 game suspension.

Punching two players in the face after the play and hitting another deliberately with the butt of your stick in the face - 0 games.

Late shoulder check to the head - 5 games.

A little incongruity there???

Posted by: gmAndAguinness. | April 27, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

This is way out of proportion. Caps will be Pumped Up tomorrow!

Posted by: Sonyask | April 27, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I'll put same post I just put on Caps.com message boards. If 6 games for Brash, what about the following 3 plays

Avery buttend/fist to Jurcina

Orr Lasso job to Semin

Dubinsky hit from behind on Green

(note none of these were called correctedly on the ice to begin with, all 3 should have been 5 minute majors if they are "cracking down on this"

How about sending the video on Dubinsky and see him in press box for game 7.

Posted by: BBDwrestling | April 27, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Carcillo gets 1 game for a deliberate attempt to injure. Cammalleri gets off clean for the EXACT same thing. Avery punches Varly in the face and gets nothing, and Brash gets this?!

Absolutely ridiculous...

Posted by: virkulous | April 27, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

whine whine whine whine whine

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be upset with this if Avery got the same treatment with his head shots. Looking at the replay on youtube, Brash hit Betts 1 second after he had the puck. I still think it is suspension worthy, but let's call all of the head shots.

Posted by: washcaps | April 27, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

"hitting an unsuspecting player" what the hell does that mean?

donald was supposed to ask and make sure betts knew he was going to be hit before getting hit.

bologna

Posted by: _stevo | April 27, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

honestly guys... he deserved that... the one game for Orr was automatic... The hit at during the game was way late, and he broke the dudes face... what can you do?

no biggy though we dont need him tomorrow night.

Posted by: dmwechs1 | April 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

The league is a joke. 1 game for the Orr thing is fine. But 5 for a borderline hit in the playoffs is completley out of whack. Apparently if you run somoene from behind (ala the hit on Green) you just get a penalty but not suspended. Watch your back Avery....

Posted by: oldtimehockey | April 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I was definitely expecting more than 1, but not 5. I'm surprised.

But really, we should be counting our blessings.

Basically, the league is saying the guy deserved a 5 min major and match penalty. We weren't even shorthanded. And I think the Caps losing Brash and his 3 minutes game hurts a lot less than the Rangers losing their top penalty killer.

The shoulder vs elbow is irrelevant. We all know he was head-hunting.

He puts a cloud over our immensely skilled hockey team.

No worries, though. Rangers just can't keep up with us.

Posted by: sinbin | April 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

This is a joke. Green almost gets a severe concussion and there is no suspension, but on a legal hit (albeit defenseless and not classy) where no penalty is called we get 6 games? This is a makeup call to end all make up calls. Its almost like they are angling to have Boston, NY and Pitt in the next round. The NHL has always been out to screw the caps, this is no different.

Posted by: Natstural | April 27, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I like how they will suspend Brash for six games for a supposed "late hit," (although the puck was in the vicinity and there was no elbow thrown to Bett's head) yet they won't suspend Brandon Dubinsky for the hit he put on Mike Green. Yeah, a blind shot, head first with the potential to cause serious harm into the boards is irrelevant. Hypocritical, perhaps?

It's called hockey not figure skating. The game has been historically physical. Betts should have had his head up.

Posted by: swagger216 | April 27, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Not about whinning it is about what other players who have done worse or equal get. There is no uniformity by the NHL when it comes to suspensions.

Not sure he will be a big miss anyway. Not like he has played much anyway.

Posted by: Shiba-fussa | April 27, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I don't mind the suspension. I think agitating and looking for fights in a game based on speed, precision and strategic thinking is a distraction rather than a contribution.

Maybe it used to be part of the hockey culture, but I don't see where it fits in today's hockey, though I realize I am in the minority.

Having said this, however, I don't understand why Avery was not suspended when he hit our players, and especially our goalie. I don't get NHL policies. If badmouthing and hitting goalies does not count as suspension-worthy, what does? And what do they count as goalie interference, murdering the goalie?

I am glad, though, to see Clark in. For one thing having the captain in the mix is bound to be good for morale.

Posted by: caraveli | April 27, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather see Nylander than Clark. Clark is too much of a wild card as far as conditioning and timing. Unless it is going to be Clark playing Brashear type of minutes, then I'm against this. So, I guess I changed my mind. Clark, but only if he is on the fourth line.

6 Games is a lot. That could go into game one of the conference finals.

Posted by: lornemyoung | April 27, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised. I thought it would be 2 or 3. But they do take the injury into account pretty strongly when they give out suspensions. If he was okay it probably wouldn't have been a suspension at all. Other than the Orr incident. He did come from behind Betts late and followed through rather than letting up when Betts turned towards his bench after dumping the puck so it was a pretty cheap hit. But it wasn't as illegal as it was unsportsmanlike.

Posted by: Stu_c | April 27, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm assuming my "FU Colin Campbell" sign won't get much airtime tomorrow.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | April 27, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Minus the pregame thing with Orr, I don't think the NHL would have suspended Brash for as many games for the hit on Betts. Even as a huge Caps fan, the hit was definitely late and should have been called as a penalty. As far as Avery's hit on Jurcina in Game 4, he should have been suspended for multiple games since there was an intent to cause injury. Brashear's reputation proceeds him as his role is as an enforcer and he adds little on the ice.

I'm actually hoping that the presence and fresh legs of Clark will be a positive and that the Rangers don't take a cheap shot to take out one of our star players like Semin, Backstrom, or Green. Caps need to focus on their game and not get caught up in any of the other stuff since they are the better team by far.

Posted by: wizfan89 | April 27, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Aucoin

Posted by: Sonyask | April 27, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it's official. Campbell is a moron. Let's GO Caps! Win tomorrow's game for Brashear and for all the wanky plays by the Rangers.

High five Rangers! Capitals will get the last laugh tomorrow.

Hey Campbell. The supervisory/management course you got your paper degree from wants to give you a refund. Clearly, you didn't learn anything.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | April 27, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The league is helping us by getting Brashear off the ice. I'm a long time Caps fan, a season ticket holder for 17 years. He was headhunting, and at the wrong time to help the team too. You don't stir up the pot when you have a team on its heels.

Thank you NHL League Office. At least one worry -- that Brashear would do something stupid to make us lose game 7 -- is off the Caps.

Posted by: raymitten | April 27, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

So, now according to the NHL, it's ok to sucker punch a player in the face or to chop your stick at the back of someone's head, but you CAN NOT check someone who just played the puck. Late, maybe. Clean, yes.

Looks like the NHL wants to have their crybaby advance again while protecting their "hometown" team.

Posted by: dj1123 | April 27, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

i think the whole arena should be holding an "FU Colin Campbell" sign.
So Avery meant his head shots as a kiss, but campbell assumes Brashear meant to kill Betts.
FU Colin Campbell.

Posted by: oo7 | April 27, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I agreee he deserved to sit a game, but this seems a bit much! Come on NHL you suck!

Posted by: NatyBG | April 27, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I think Brash should have been suspended both for the pre-game incident and the hit on Betts, but 5 games for the hit is excessive.

Posted by: rbpalmer | April 27, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

It's us against the world, Caps. Use it and bust out another great game tomorrow.

Posted by: Sonyask | April 27, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The NHL has really discredited themselves with the off-ice handling of these so-called playoff incidents, and more especially, the on-ice handling of conduct by the officials.

This is ridiculous.

I hope Dubinsky gets served up at least 3 games for his hit on an 'unsuspecting' Mike Green.

Posted by: netminder71 | April 27, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

NHL is a joke!!The hit was late it was dirty but it was still legal.Cambell Bettman=tools.No uniformity to enforcement of suspentions.Its all reputation and Brash while goonish doesnt deserve any more than Avery should have gotten for repeated stick offences.

Posted by: avischecter | April 27, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

NHL/Bettman/Campbell = idiots/joke/racists/afraid of media/you name it.

I am speechless. I would agree w/ a suspension if the OTHER GUILTY RAGS GOT IT, TOO.

If anything, this should enrage the Caps and make them obliterate the whiney &*#&s tomorrow night.

Posted by: CapsKH | April 27, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

gosh, you guys whine a lot....was a late hit and caused an awful, potentially career ending injury. you can't compare it to avery's nonsense. Avery has been penalized countless times this series because his little punches, jabs and high sticks have been violations of the rules that have been punished.

you guys have gotten away with quite a few black letter rule penalties such as Ovie's follow through high stick into rozsivals face in game 3, and so have the rangers. The officiating has been terrible this series but the Brashear hit was of a different species than the others. You have to separate yourself from your team every now and again and recognize what he did to the guy....it was not within the rules of the game by anyone's definition so stop it, you guys are looking silly

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

And you all say rangers fans cry. The hit was late! The only people anywere who think it was even close are in the DC area. The puck was 30 feet away, and it was 3 seconds after he released the puck in slow mo, it was 6-8 seconds after he released the puck. Brash was aiming to take out the rangers top pk guy, I'm sure he didn't mean to do that much damage. And stop compairing averts hits to this, he caused a bloody nose, A BLOODY NOSE! get over it, brash screwed up and probably doesn't have enough left to play in the NHL anymore. Stop crying, the caps still make out better, lose betts for brash....hmmm maybe brash was going to get the of game winner in 7.

Posted by: rangerfan44 | April 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

BLATANT RACISM!! lol, j/k. Definitely way more games than I expected though. But, we just gotta accept it and move on and win games. Let's win this next one for the Donald...

Posted by: sargeantmofo | April 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I think the NHL is taking past history into account on all suspensions...

Brash has played in the league for a long time, and we know what his role is.

That hit might only get a game for other players, but his rep might have done him in for longer..this could be a result of non-Capital related issues.

At least thats what I think.

Posted by: SA-Town | April 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I have to step up and agree with the excessive penalty stance most people are expressing. Even though the hit was late, I thought it was all shoulder. But the absurdity of this series is Avery's antics and no suspension there. The slash on Pothier? The butt end to Jurcina? The punch to VAR-LAM-OV? The league and the officiating has been really poor in this series.

Posted by: dsphvywght | April 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Colin Campbell's e-mail address is ccampbell@nhl.com!!!

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | April 27, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I believe the punishment does fit the crime here. The hit was idiotic, badly timed, and is consistent with Brashear's inability to control his temper and cost his team in penalty minutes and the benefit of the doubt. This is exactly the kind of crap the NHL should be cracking down on - more and more guys are getting serious career threatening injuries, often as the result of cheap or retaliatory plays. The only asset his presence poses in this series is a possible disincentive for Sean Avery and Colton Orr, but from the bird's eye, it doesn't look like that role was fulfilled. For all of his circling, Nylander deserves that spot more than Brashear, as does Clark. It will be interesting to see which one of them suits up. My hopes are on Clark.

Posted by: fronesis1016 | April 27, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be so sure Clark gets the nod tomorrow. Coaches aren't exactly honest about lineup plans ahead of games. Nobody knew Brash was playing game 3 until it started and he did a good job keeping the Theo to Varly switch under wraps. That said, I still prefer Clark. The players voted him captain for a reason. Brash made a difference, esp in game 3, because his teammates respect him and they all responded. Same deal with Clark. Just because he hasn't played in awhile doesn't mean he'll be dead weight.

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 27, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

This provides the Caps with a legitimate rallying point and should annoy them enough that they won't come out flat or complacent Tuesday night. Brash was only averaging about 3-4 minutes so getting the Captain back in the line for about 5 should be a perfect swap. It's probably fair to say that Brash's reputation didn't help things much.

Re: Morrison's "biting"... the Ranger slugged his own teammate, then gave Mo a pretty vigorous face wash and then tries to put Mo in a headlock. It does look like the crook of his arm went over/in Mo's mouth but certainly didn't stay there long and he didn't move/flinch while it was there. It's possible that the force of his arm caused one of Mo's teeth (can't see if there's a mouthpiece) to cut him but it doesn't look like a bite.

Finally... these are professional athletes who routinely travel across international borders. Aren't their shots all up to date? The whole thing sounds like more Ranger whiney (quickly displacing Cindy and the pengwhines as the league leaders in that category)

Posted by: Dave_in_Alexandria | April 27, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Tarik, is there any appeal process?

Posted by: caps512 | April 27, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm astonished that Brash got so many games...probably due to the seriousness of the injury.

Going back into ancient history - decades ago the media were up in arms about something Dale Hunter did (in a playoff I think, to Pierre Turgeon). Didn't he get about half a season worth? What did he do?

Posted by: Baystater1 | April 27, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

He got suspended for doing his job. Oh well.

Posted by: ejohnsto | April 27, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I think it's an absolutely ridiculous suspension. There is no doubting the 1 game suspension for making contact with Orr before the game, but 5 games for the Betts hit is assinine. Just like others have said, the NHL is issuing a suspension based on the result of the play and the whining of the Rangers, instead of basing it on the merrits of the play itself. Ovechkin and Green were both pushed head first into the boards yesterday. Dubinsky was penalized for the hit on Green, whereas there was no call on the play against Ovechkin. If Brashear gets suspended for the hit on Betts, then both Dubinsky and whoever hit Ovechkin should be suspended as well. Whether or not the player gets hurt shouldn't determine whether the hit was legal or not, and in the case of the Brashear hit, it may have been a second late, but it wasn't from behind. In fact, Betts skated right into it. Hockey players know they are supposed to keep their head up and watch where they are going. All this and I haven't even brought up the numerous Avery incidents that did not result in a suspension but were easily more suspendable in my mind (like the cross-check to Pothier's face anyone?).

Posted by: cainoo7x | April 27, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

If the shoe were on the other foot and it was Avery, you all would cheer. Brashear's days on this team are numbered anyway.

Posted by: Bartolo1 | April 27, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

the comments about NY whinning are idiotic - what do we care about a 3min TOI player who's role is usless in the playoffs? I'd prefer to see a 5min major during the actual game with no suspension at all...

Posted by: RangersIn5 | April 27, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The league takes past performance into account in such matters, and Brashear had the past performance of his pre-game skate fresh in the league's mind. Sinbin is right, however, it should have been a major and an ejection. If the Rangers had scored a few on the power play, the caps would have suspended Brashear permanently.

Posted by: foozler | April 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

@oldtimehockey: It prolly won't. My "Stars' Sloppy Seconds" got band by Avery and the ASSt Coach when I held it up several times in Game 2 behind the Rangers' bench. But whatever. =P

I look forward to the Rangers imploding tomorrow. Try taking runs against our players, Rangers. Give us some power plays. You guys just gave our men more motivation to ground your Stanley Cup dreams into dust. Here's to tomorrow's lesson on not messing with the Capitals. Learn it well because it's gonna' be like that for a very long time....

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | April 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Funny how the Ranger fans are out again now after the announcement. And you all were where exactly after getting kicked all over the rink twice in a row?

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

@JK111 and rangersfan44 - I guess Mike Green is an idiot since he didn't expect to be boarded. I guess that's what he gets for turning his back. Maybe Avery's BS is ticky tacky in comparison, but if Dubinksy wasn't head hunting by slamming a prone player, back turned, head first into the boards, then you two are idiots. The real double standard here is Dubinsky not being investigated and suspended, AND HE GOT A MISCONDUCT FOR HIS CHEAP SHOT.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 27, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I think the suspension is worthy of the action. Brash didnt mean to hurt him but he still did. I also think that in all the playoff series, actions have been escalating and the league needed to draw a line in the sand. This is playoff hockey and stuff happens. Accept the consequences and move on. I am just happy it was Brash and not OVie or someone else with a significant role. Go Caps!

Posted by: bigschu8 | April 27, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Finally... these are professional athletes who routinely travel across international borders. Aren't their shots all up to date? The whole thing sounds like more Ranger whiney

Posted by: Dave_in_Alexandria | April 27, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

typically, you get a tetanus shot every 10 years. But if something happens, such a stepping on a rusty nail, or a bite, after the 5 year mark, you'll generally get another shot, just in case.

That said, I don't buy for one eff'ing minute this sob story out of New York.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 27, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I think if someone gets hit in the face on a slap shot follow through it's considered part of the game and not a penalty in any situation. I thought JK111 should know that.

I don't have issue with the suspension but I think it's a bit too long. I didn't like the hit when I saw it, I don't like it any better now. The league should work to eliminate acts and not results.

Posted by: saintex | April 27, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

the comments about NY whinning are idiotic - what do we care about a 3min TOI player who's role is usless in the playoffs? I'd prefer to see a 5min major during the actual game with no suspension at all...

Posted by: RangersIn5 | April 27, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I'd respond to that, but I can't stop laughing at your handle.

Posted by: ModestProposal | April 27, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Aucoin

Posted by: Sonyask | April 27, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS RIDICULOUS... AT LEAST IT IS BRASHEAR
TIME FOR CLARK TO STEP UP...HE CAN BRING MORE TO THE GAME...LET'S HOPE HE'S READY!
AGAIN I WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT 6 GAMES...THEN AGAIN I NEVER THOUGH A MORON /PUPPET WOULD LEAD OUR COUNTRY INTO FAILURE 8 YEARS IN ROW..IT SHOWS WHAT KIND OF CORRUPT SOCIETY WE LIVE IN...
DUBINSKY SHOULD ALSO BE SUSPENDED HERE IF THIS WERE TO BE FAIR IN ANY WAY...
GOSH TORTORELLA LIKES TO SUCK BETTMAN'S ****

Posted by: masterx09 | April 27, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm so ashamed...Colin Campbell used to play for the Hershey Bears. Hard to believe he turned into such an A*$HOLE

Posted by: hersheybearfan | April 27, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

does anyone have video or pics of averys spear this series? I think there was one I saw on here of his stick in OV's neck.....

Posted by: capsfansince74 | April 27, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

ummm if the league takes past past performance into account....shouldn't Sean Avery be like playing for the pee-wee hockey league by now???

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | April 27, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The pregame warmups = 1 game is whatever, he probably shouldn't have pushed orr.

Everyone's already mentioned the other hits to the face/head area during this series that have gone unpunished. The late hit on Betts was one of those "suspend because of injury" situations. I always hate how the NHL suspends players in plays like that entirely based on the severity of the injury and based little on anything else.

I'm almost surprised that history wasn't mentioned by Campbell as part of the reason for 5 games instead of less. Seemed like an easy card to play.

Summary: 6 games is absurd and the Rangers are doing a LOT of complaining for a team that's been giving their fair share of questionable hits, checks, and punches and cross checks to the face.

As an interesting point - if the Caps had complained about Avery's antics at the end of game 4, would he have been suspended as a result?

Posted by: Raber | April 27, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

It matters just a little - Brash will be missed but the Rangers will be handled. LETS GO CAPITALS!

Posted by: mjwies11 | April 27, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

What did Avery get for the butt-end hit, and the two slashes to the heads earlier in the series?

Posted by: lylewimbledon | April 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Brash saw the "Bett" part on Betts jersey and thought it said Bettman and couldn't control himself.

Posted by: CapsKH | April 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

video of Avery's shots on Erskine, Varlamov, Jurcina, and Pothier are around, I just can't remember where to find them off the top of my head.

I'm still scratching my head over NO ACTION being taken against Orr. new Yorkers, you wan tto try and justify that hit and the resulting non-suspension? Because you can't.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 27, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

let's all goto school. Spearing is when you use the blade of the stick. Buttending is when you jab with the "Handel" end. Swinging your arm back and having the butt end make contact along with the glove is roughing since the glove is there. And that is from a former NHL officials trainer who lives nearby. Now he retired 5 years ago, but I bet the rules about that havnt changed all that much.

Posted by: rangerfan44 | April 27, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Rangersfan "it was 3 seconds in slow mo"
That means it was faster in real time not slower.

Posted by: billd2 | April 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Avery's 2 punches, 1 cross check to the face, 1 cross check to the head of a player who jsut came back from a 2 year layoff due to concussion.

Well played NHL...well played @@

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

whine whine whine whine whine

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Go have intimate adult relations with yourself!

Posted by: EricinMD | April 27, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I hate "TROLLS".
Donald, It was a stupid hit.
Lets Go CAPS!!!!

Posted by: zosodave | April 27, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I get the one game for the pre-game incident with Orr. But the rest of it is without justification.

Blair Betts has been in the NHL long enough to know that you always keep your head on a swivel when you are on the ice. Once you have played the puck, you are liable, if not likely, to get hit. If Brashear's hit was late, it was only a fraction of a second late. And the hit was clean. The only reason there was an injury was because Betts was, wrongly, unprepared for contact.

Mike Dubindsky's (sp?) hit on Mike Green was much more likely to result in serious injury. But Green was prepared for contact, even though he didn't see it coming from directly behind him. What's more, the refs actually called multiple penalties on Dubinsky for his infraction while not calling Brashear for anyting, even though both referees clearly saw Brashear's actions too.

Meanwhile, I haven't even mentioned the multiple, and dangerous, infractions committed by Steve Avery against Capitals players during this series. Yet neither Dubinsky nor Avery has even had to discuss his actions with the league, let alone face sanctions.

The only reasonable conclusions I can come to are that either there is a prejudice against Donald Brashear, as a so-called enforcer, or the league only punishes players who actually injure someone, and not those who merely attempt, but fail, to injure.

The distinction is lost on me.

Posted by: noslok | April 27, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

ok, lets get this stright..
Avery, punch to goalie (nothing)
Avery, Punch/buttend to defencemen (nothing)
Avery, Hitting defencemen in head with stick (nothing)
See a pattren here?
Brash (late SHOULDER check (5 games)
Am I missing something here???

Posted by: rarcr | April 27, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Dubinsky is not only running all over showing anyone who will look his "bite mark" he also claims he's taking antibiotics!
http://njmg.typepad.com/rangersblog/2009/04/what-me-bite.html

What, Shoane's got some scary Canadian germs that might infect the upstanding Mr. Dubinsky, who would, after all, never ever take a cheap shot at a player and try and drive his head into the boards.

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 27, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

After seeing the replays during the game yesterday, not once did I see any part of Brash's body hit Betts' head. All I saw was his shoulder hitting him. I may be confused about hockey, but isn't the point of hitting a guy exactly because he doesn't know he's about to get hit? I mean, if Betts didn't see it coming, thats not Brashs' fault, he didn't hit him from behind. If what Brashear did is worth 6 games, then shouldn't all of Avery's antics be worth at least a suspension? Avery purposefully targets and tries to injure guys, isn't that against the rules? I guess what we should really take away from this is that the NHL is saying its ok to punch a guy in the balls while he's unsuspecting, clothesline a guy in open ice for no reason, purposefully hit players in the face with your stick but its not ok to give a legal shoulder check... i'm confused, I just guess that next time Brash, you should punch him in the groin and you'll be fine.

Posted by: jonsnoek | April 27, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

EricinMD that was uncalled for!! Here, catch this water bottle with your face!! LOL

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 27, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Let's just let tomorrow's result speak for itself.

Ranger fans, get a life!

Go CAP! ROCK THE RED!!!!

Posted by: cfrazier91 | April 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

It's awesome that the Rangers fans have to come to our blog to defend their teams' whining. I guess they got sick and tired of listening to each other and agreeing with every illogical reason they could come up with to explain away the dreadful past two games their team played (with the exception of Lundquist; the guy gets a thumbs up from me). The only logical reason is staring them in the face but I hear ya'. Denial is a good tool to use to deal with losing.

Hey Rangers fans! Look...I'm squishing your heads with my thumb and index finger. That's how ridiculous you guys sound. It's the only absurd comment I could make to give you guys an inkling at how lame your responses are to your teams' whining and complaints. Boo-hoo. Have a lollipop, Rangers. It'll make the sting of your team squandering your lead less embarrassing. See you guys tomorrow!

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | April 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

And I'm sorry, that is the biggest pile of BS ever. Seriously Avery gets not even one game suspension, at all, Orr gets nothing for clotheslining Semin and Brash gets 6. They even admit its a shoulder hit. A shoulder hit, no elbow, officially stated by the VP. Because the guy was unlucky enough to get really hurt, which had way more to do with how he hit the ice. Too bad Brash didn't just whack him on the head with his stick like Avery does, then it would have been a 2 min call, if that.

Clark over Nylander any day.

Posted by: mrszilla | April 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

This is a Caps fan board...who looks silly? I'm gonna say it's the Rags fans who think anyone here cares two bits about what they think or say. Have fun watching your boys golfing for the next five and a half months. We win tomorrow, Brash or no Brash. Avery is a punk and so is Tortorella.

Posted by: kevbnyc | April 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I can hear the whining from New York did someone spank a baby. Oh yeah that's right we did.

Posted by: HockeyFarmer | April 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

um, that is. Like a Ranger fan, I forgot the "s"

Go CAPS! ROCK THE RED!!!!

Posted by: cfrazier91 | April 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Brash deserves the suspension. 5 games for that is a bit much, but he deserves it. I love the Caps as much as everyone here but let's not be crazy homers about this. I agree that the Rags should have been penalized for some of their actions this series (Avery), but this is a pretty easy call. If we had been on the other end of that, and one of the Caps took that hit from a Ranger, you guys would be calling for heads to roll!!
That being said....Go Caps!!

Posted by: j3rockstar | April 27, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

JS - for the record, I've been on here since game 1, (same ID too) - LeftCoast - the rangers will implode if its 5-0, just when AO's ice time drops to every other shift (for that reason). "our stanly cup dreams into dust" I didnt have those, I was surprised we made it into the playoffs and have given one of the best teams a 7 game series. You're juvenile at best when it comes to understanding the game.

Posted by: RangersIn5 | April 27, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

@rangerfan44 - "Handel?" I didn't know composers were involved in stick-making! And here I just thought he was in the business of making altos' lives miserable, LOL!

The word is "handle" if you're referring to a stick.

Posted by: irockthered | April 27, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe the NHL's rules support Brashear's suspension for the hit to Blair Betts. Here's why.

Colin Campbell's statement says: "Brashear delivered a shoulder hit to an unsuspecting player. It is also my opinion that the hit was delivered late and targeted the head of his opponent, causing significant injury." The AP report says that the suspension was "for what the NHL is calling a 'blind-side hit'" on Betts.

Thus, the rule being invoked is Rule 44 - Checking from Behind, which states: "44.1 Checking from Behind – A check from behind is a check delivered on a player who is not aware of the impending hit, therefore unable to protect or defend himself, and contact is made on the back part of the body. When a player intentionally turns his body to create contact with his back, no penalty shall be assessed." Note that an essential element of the violation is that "contact is made on the back part of the body".

From my recollection of the replays of this incident, it is indisputable that the contact was made with the front of Betts's body, not the back. Hence, no foul under Rule 44.

Brashear should definitely appeal.

For anyone who wants to read the rules, here's the link: http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26333


Posted by: natemmons | April 27, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

..no wonder why my buddies who are caps fans(who are real hockey fans) laugh at these boards. 90% of you have no clue about the sport, the history (i.e Dale Hunter question earlier) or the fact that the rangers are team that should not be taking a 2 seed to game 7.

Posted by: RangersIn5 | April 27, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

@ Sonyask

Agreed. It's us against the world, make it happen Caps.

On Brash's replacement --- no Nylander. We don't need a forward in who won't shoot the puck. Clark or Aucoin in for Brash, preferably Clark.

Posted by: AMHV2772 | April 27, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Rocc, just because a stick comes up high doesn't mean it's a slash or a cross check. At least one of averts bairly had any steam on it. Avery has never been suspended for an on ice incident, four teams, so you can't say the teams are loved he is on, and the NHL definatly doesn't love avery, get over it, what avery did was no worse than ovechkins late hit late in the game on callahan, so why not reveiw that? Wait, you only think non caps players do anything wrong

Posted by: rangerfan44 | April 27, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

..no wonder why my buddies who are caps fans(who are real hockey fans) laugh at these boards. 90% of you have no clue about the sport, the history (i.e Dale Hunter question earlier) or the fact that the rangers are team that should not be taking a 2 seed to game 7.

Posted by: RangersIn5 | April 27, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Um, so, wait, what are you doing here?

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 27, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Troll, Troll, Troll.

Posted by: kevbnyc | April 27, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

6 games? That's outrageous!

Posted by: AyresGoober | April 27, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I was telling friends that if Avery and the Rangers kept up the dirty play, especially after the incident with Semin, that someone was going to get hurt. Well, someone got hurt. IMO Betts can thank Avery, Orr and Duby for that. If another team continues to go after your stars or high level players as the Rangers have for most of the series you must respond. The Caps waited for the league, but got nothing. This was the only option.

The suspension was justified for both incidents. It was a "dirty" hit, but it was a justified dirty hit.

Posted by: overhead | April 27, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

What about the cross check to OV during play with the puck NOWHERE near that went unpenalized? Did anyone see this, or am I crazy?

Posted by: apollak8 | April 27, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

It's been proven time and again; either the officials police the game or the players do. The NHL didn't police this series properly from the get-go. Unfortunately Betts had to reap what they sowed

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 27, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Ooh, Rangersonthegolfcourse (I mean Rangersin5) is trying to bring his Caps fans into this.

Get out of here. We aren't whiners like you all. We are all just surprised at the length of suspension.

You should be whining about how you gave up a 3-1 lead and how you could not do more with 8 Power PLays yesterday compared to our 2. Refs are really out against you.

With Clark in, we now have 4 lines that can score.

Ba Bye!

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | April 27, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Bad for Brash, good for Caps.

Rangers without their best defensive forward.
Caps without their biggest defensive liability, and probably with extra speed in the lineup (Clark).

Moving on..

Posted by: VladG | April 27, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

6 games is appropriate but WHO CARES? The punishment won't hurt the team, as this clown has done nothing but hurt his team time and time again. Stupid player and it was not only a dirty hit, it was just another incident of stupidity by Donald Brashear.

Posted by: caphcky | April 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Rangerfan44:

Seriously, why are you here?!!

Posted by: cfrazier91 | April 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

..no wonder why my buddies who are caps fans(who are real hockey fans) laugh at these boards. 90% of you have no clue about the sport, the history (i.e Dale Hunter question earlier) or the fact that the rangers are team that should not be taking a 2 seed to game 7.
Posted by: RangersIn5 | April 27, 2009 4:41 PM |

I highly doubt you have any friends esp. Caps friend.
talk about uneducated hockey fan - look in your mirror.

Hockey Playoffs are a different animal. No1 here thought it would be a cakewalk.

Looks @ SJ vs Anaheim or Chicago vs. Calgary.

Ur an idiot for even opening your mouth.
By the looks of your prior posts, you only show up when things are in the favor of the Rags.

Go get some swine flu & leave the hockey talk to grown ups.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Actually I remember the NBC announcers showed a replay of it and joked about how OV was talking to the ranger bench after it. pretty sure that's interference...

Posted by: apollak8 | April 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

What a joke. I love hockey and the Caps but it is hard to take the NHL seriously when they overlook a guy like Avery busting up a guy's nose intentionally with the butt of a stick. If you want to clean up the sport, fine, but try being consistent.

Posted by: collins63 | April 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

i can sum up the board so anyone just coming on doesn't have to read the posts...

wahhh, our goon put a cheap shot on a rangers skill player, broke his face and knocked him out for the playoffs and he got suspended and i don't know why

wahhh, the league must be biased against us because other, lesser things happened during the game, that were called on the ice and the rangers players didn't get suspended after

wahhh, rangers fans are so bad because they actually support their teams even in the lean years and know what happened to Dale Hunter even though us caps fans dont

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Nate: how bout if an injury scutes during an interferance penalty a major penalty and a game misconduct may be assessd and the NHL can reveiw it for suspension. It's funny the other day people wanted avery suspended for things from past seasons, now that they aparently did that to brash it's not ok, and avery should get suspended cause he might have hurt a player but brash does and it's not fair to suspend him because the guy got hurt! Ya think you might want to pick one way to complain as a group?

Posted by: rangerfan44 | April 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

What about the cross check to OV during play with the puck NOWHERE near that went unpenalized? Did anyone see this, or am I crazy?

Posted by: apollak8

Are you referring to the non-call in yesterday's 3rd period or something else? That was a high stick not a cross check, but just another example of inconsistency

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 27, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The NHL makes no sense. How is Brash's actions any different than Sean Avery's? (The only difference is because Betts got hurt.) Everything that Avery has done has been intentional, punching Varly, elbowing Jurcina, high sticking Pothier in the face... he should've been suspended as well.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

@JK111

"you guys have gotten away with quite a few black letter rule penalties such as Ovie's follow through high stick into rozsivals face in game 3, and so have the rangers."

How did Ovie get away with that? "black letter rule penalty? The ONLY time a high-sticking penelty is NOT a high-sticking penelty is when its during the follow through of a shot.

Posted by: patrone | April 27, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm defending my team from you morons. BTW, besides Dubi telling the press he has bite marks, and got shots, I dont see him hosting a press conference talking about this. The media (DC) is blowing this up. If anything Dubi is kicking himself for opening his mouth - why would any player want to be associated with crying (ala Crosby)? I cant wait for Avery to run Varly through the glass, spilling beer over everyone, biting the security guards arm off, and defacating on the WNBA attendance banner...all at once.

Posted by: RangersIn5 | April 27, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Aucoin

Posted by: Sonyask | April 27, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Second!

Posted by: cao091402 | April 27, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that's a bunch of BS.

Posted by: FancyDan | April 27, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Wow. We need to reach a group concensus now? WTH? GET LOST!!!

Posted by: kevbnyc | April 27, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Not a surprise. What a horribly biased TV commentary in yesterday's game. They called this suspension, not the Commish.

Craig calls it both ways, I like it that he isn't a homer.

Campbell is NY-based and sees that his officials have lost control of the series. They let NY bully and thug their way through a couple of games and now when the Caps stand up for themselves, the gauntlet comes down. Avery should have been disciplined long before this.

I hope the whistles are even tomorrow night, but I have my doubts.

Posted by: OldHockeyGuy | April 27, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Psst Lindsey -

How long do you think the Post can have a photo of Canadian RW George Laraque up next to the wapo.com front page story link without someone figuring out that ain't Brash?

C'mon, can't we keep brothas in the playoffs straight from those that have been eliminated already?

Posted by: WebberDC | April 27, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

patrone...you're right and i knew that actually, it was a brain fart in the midst of my rage

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Let me summarize for the Ranger Morons Fans that come on here:

Rangers give up a 3-1 lead and whine about the refs

Rangers find out our goalie is actually better than their 3-time nominated goalie and whine

Rangers can't score goals when it matters and whine

Now all the Ranger fans can leave.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | April 27, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

@ JS26121820

No, I'm not referring to the high stick, there was that too. It was either in the 2nd or third period, OV was by the blue line near the rangers bench and took a crosscheck in the back with the puck on the other end of the ice

Posted by: apollak8 | April 27, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait til we win and the Rags and their trolls are gone.

Posted by: kevbnyc | April 27, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Campbell also used to be a Rangers coach

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | April 27, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

rangersin5,
time to change your user name. please feel free to do what you wish to the wnba banners although i think they take them down for caps games.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | April 27, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm fine with the suspension. Can't have that stuff in warmups. Brash crossed the line.

However, doesn't Colin Campbell have a conflict of interests due to his previous professional relationship with the Rangers. Shouldn't he have been recused and this gone by him to Mr. Bettman? In the big picture it doesn't matter though.

Posted by: lornemyoung | April 27, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

the Dubinsky hit on Green looked more dangerous. def not based on the act but the reputation. It's a shame...

Posted by: unkonchus | April 27, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't look at Rag blogs, but do we have any trolls over on those acting this stupid?

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 27, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Changing the subject...

Update on Staffan Kronwall injury in Hershey:

http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/2009/04/bears_kronwall_relieved_eye_in.html

Posted by: tess2201 | April 27, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

That's ridiculous. This is way too harsh for what was a legal, albeit late hit.

Posted by: rawk | April 27, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty humorous to see NY,with Avery in tow,talking about cheap play and the like. And the genteel NY crowd so upset at DC and their fans unsavory behavior. This NY,with the drunken,belligerent,baiting,cretins that come to our arena. They deserve whatever they get.

Posted by: ridgely1 | April 27, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

NY biased television?

You mean Doc Emrick who calls the Devils games, the Rangers biggest rival these days? Milbury, the former Islander GM (the other biggest rival) who famously climbed into the stands at MSG to fight a fan when he was a Bruin? Pierre McGuire, the former penguins assistant coach and player who is notoriously anti NY and Philly? Eddie Olzcyk, former pens coach?

That was one of the most ignorant statements i've ever read, get your facts straight and stop being paranoid please

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Don't know if this has been brought up today but I want to say "Happy 21st Birthday Varly!" Although he doesn't read this, I just need to say it. Hopefully he has a great game tomorrow then he can celebrate!

rangersin5- you gotta change your name!! haha!

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

@Rangers

What does "defacating" mean? You frigging dunce.

Posted by: RickFelt | April 27, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

the picture on the front page of the post online isn't even of brashear. it's of laroque from montreal...but i guess we all look alike. c'mon post!!!!

Posted by: natman19 | April 27, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The Rangers just lost some of their on-ice motivation. They got their revenge off the ice, which is a much better place to get it from the Caps' perspective. Losing Brash's 3 minutes of ice time a game (and his presence of course) may end up helping in the short term.

Posted by: dcstranger | April 27, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

6 games is appropriate but WHO CARES? The punishment won't hurt the team, as this clown has done nothing but hurt his team time and time again. Stupid player and it was not only a dirty hit, it was just another incident of stupidity by Donald Brashear.
Posted by: caphcky | April 27, 2009 4:47 PM |

U like figure skating don't you Rag fan in drag?

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah! Happy birthday Varly! and @Tess, eww that's gross that his eye was bleeding

Posted by: apollak8 | April 27, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

@Rangersin5: Then you understand how we feel about the biting allegations and the "we didn't do anything to protect your coach's suit." Boo-hoo. Cry me a river, dude.

We'll let our men have the final say on the ice. After all, the hockey battles are won on the ice. Not on a blog. And certainly not in a whiney complaint letter to the NHL. Game on tomorrow, Rangersin5.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | April 27, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Is Oskar Osala going to be called up to be the enforcer for the next round?

Posted by: pyoung66 | April 27, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Can we all agree to meet up and kick Rangersin5 ass on Tuesday...maybe even throw him down a section or something...u must be some fat ass loser the jacks off to animal porn all day/ and a molester/ sick f*ck/ i hope u get hit by a train

Posted by: masterx09 | April 27, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Can we all agree to meet up and kick Rangersin5 ass on Tuesday...maybe even throw him down a section or something...u must be some fat ass loser the jacks off to animal porn all day/ and a molester/ sick f*ck/ i hope u get hit by a train
Posted by: masterx09 | April 27, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I assume you mean at the Verizon Center...i hear the security is pretty lax there

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

And Avery got how many games for throwing his elbow and bloodying Jurcina and slashing Pothier in the face? Are you kidding me? What a joke. Fortunately it matters little; just typical League hypocrisy that pervades all of sport. Regardless, if the Caps come to play like they have the last two games and take care of business this will all resolve itself. LETS GO CAPITALS!

Posted by: mjwies11 | April 27, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

@natman19

OMG...I believed you but had to look for myself. So wrong! Go Washington...that's almost up there with the Washington "Natinals"!

Posted by: CapsKH | April 27, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

man, it's getting ugly in here. I can't blame the rags fans for coming on this blog. The NY blogs get one comment every 45 minutes so this must be like christmas to them.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 27, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

JK111 you are mental if you do not think the nbc commentators are biased. It's as simple as not getting excited when the caps score and when the rangers get a pity goal he goes crazy!! not to mention they kept talking about the rangers and not about the caps success...
BTW HAPPY BIRTHDAY VARLY!!!!!!!! We're so glad you part of this organiztion

Posted by: masterx09 | April 27, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

rangersfan44 and rangersin5 need to go to rangers blog. they look so silly coming here after their team got spanked twice.

stanleycup1907 is hiding somewhere.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't have a problem with Brash being suspended, and I wish betts a speedy recovery, but 6 games is ridiculous and excessive -- I do have a big time problem with Brash being suspended and dubinsky and avery getting off scott free for doing far more dangerous things - dubinsky's hit on Green could have ended his career. It's just more inconsistent nonsense from the NHL that kills their credibility.

And ranger's fans -- you're as pathetic as your organization - the whining about foul language and cheap shots is so embarrassing -- do you have any concept of what ranger's fans say to the Caps during games? Do you know how the Caps responded, they ignored it and played hockey, they didn't turn into stick wielding, bottle throwing, frothing lunatics and then cry to the league that the fans were mean to me! -- torts, like your entire organization is a disgrace and an embarrassment

And lol at crying about hits and cheap shots, your crap bag team has been running at the Caps players this entire series -- now you're crying because same was done to you -- pathetic hypocrites, the lot of you.

Posted by: Terpsrule | April 27, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse


I'm defending my team from you morons. ... I cant wait for Avery to run Varly through the glass, spilling beer over everyone, biting the security guards arm off, and defacating on the WNBA attendance banner...all at once.
Posted by: RangersIn5 | April 27, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Is that on this 90% joke of a chatboard you have been posting on the last hour dumb eeyore?

That last part about running our goalie shows how smart NY hockey fans are?

Your supposed tough guys are pansies So that means all u Rags fans are too.
But they didn't want to fight with the Donald so they had to whine about it to the league just like you guys.

Look @ these muscles you clown - DC > NY - 4-3.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

natman19:

Your right it's laroque from montreal!!! COME ON WASHINGTON POST!!!

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | April 27, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

moose33, have you noticed how many major newspapers there are in NY?

NY times
NY Post
Daily News
Newsday
Bergen Record
NY Observer
NY Sun

most have their blogs and each of them are quite popular, in a way i wish NY had less newspapers so we could get a better concentration of fans onto one or two blogs

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I'll tell you who was unsuspecting. The woman that was hit by the water bottle!

I'm sorry but If you are on the Ice with Brashear and do not have a suspicion that you may be hit.... Wrong profession!

Posted by: 08Obama08 | April 27, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Laraque is now gone as of 5:13.

Nice work Lindsey.

Posted by: WebberDC | April 27, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

The more that I think about it, its just absurd that Brashear would get 6 games for a (legal) on ice incident, whereas a 'COACH' gets only 1 game for interacting with fans and hitting an innocent woman in the head with a water bottle. Absolutely unacceptable.

Posted by: apollak8 | April 27, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

It might actually be a good thing for the capitals to have brashear out for this one. They could use a bit more speed to get the 4th line cycling a bit. I wouldn't put Nylander in because there's nowhere to put him that wouldn't mess other lines up. Clark on the 4th would be good. Better would be Aucoin but Clark is a solid option if they just need him to play on the 4th.

Posted by: Stu_c | April 27, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

To silly Rangers fans on here: The Rangers have been plenty dirty this series as well! So before you pick out all the dirty things we've done, look at your own team! We've all seen the Rangers trying to intentionally hurt the Caps many times, but have you ever heard them whine or complain once, or send letters asking Bettman for suspensions? Nope.

"I cant wait for Avery to run Varly through the glass
-Rangersin5"

Avery would never make it out of Verizon Center alive. You complain about Brash's dirty hit on Betts but you think it's okay for Avery to run Varly? Um, okay. Typical Rags fan! Now go cry on Rags blog along with the other Rags fans. I read some comments the other day, and wow... you guys are angry. =) There's some crazy people asking for Lundqvist to be traded, be thankful you have him, or this series would've been over long ago.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

It was the right call. Brash gets six games, but they may have lost Betts the entire playoffs. He may not be a scorer, but he is their best faceoff guy and best penalty killer. Come on guys, you know if a Ranger did that to Cap, it would be a different story. Brash added toughness and did not play that many minutes.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | April 27, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

It was the right call. Brash gets six games, but they may have lost Betts the entire playoffs. He may not be a scorer, but he is their best faceoff guy and best penalty killer. Come on guys, you know if a Ranger did that to Cap, it would be a different story. Brash added toughness and did not play that many minutes.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | April 27, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

@rangerfan44

It is true that under Rule 29 the league can assess supplementary punishment for any infraction if it deems such action to be warranted. But there must, under the terms of Rule 29, have been an "offense committed during the course of [the]game." If the conduct on the ice did not violate any of the rules, no supplementary punishment can be assessed.

If anyone can find a rule that was violated by the hit on Betts, please let us know. The rules can be found at http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26333

Posted by: natemmons | April 27, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

have you noticed how many major newspapers there are in NY?
NY times
NY Post
Daily News
Newsday
Bergen Record
NY Observer
NY Sun
most have their blogs and each of them are quite popular, in a way i wish NY had less newspapers so we could get a better concentration of fans onto one or two blogs

Damn that's a lot of outlets for a bunch of whiners to whine on.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

JK111 - I realize there are alot more forums in NY and I have gone to a few of those sites, it's still a gentle stream compared to the tsunami of posts this blog gets. However I do agree that if there was one major forum, I'm sure it would be alot busier.

Posted by: Moose33 | April 27, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

@Rangersin5: While Dubi is at it, why doesn't he divulge that itch he's had in the groin area for the past few months? Stuff like the bite doesn't exactly add any credibility to their argument that the Capitals organization needs to be punished. If it was his intent to further discredit the devious Capitals, he did a poor job of it:

Rangers: The Capitals are up to their underhanded tactics and trying to get under our skin with those severe checks into the boards while our backs are turned towards them and the number of roughing penalties they're getting. Boy, I tell ya'...

Dubinsky: And they bit me too.

What's next, Rangersin5? Torts holding a press conference or publicizing an e-mail he sent to the Capitals demanding they pay for the $13.45 cents to dryclean his suit to get the beer smell of of it? Someone check that. I wouldn't hold it past them now. *points at Rangersin5 and snickers*

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | April 27, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

the picture on the front page of the post online isn't even of brashear. it's of laroque from montreal...but i guess we all look alike. c'mon post!!!!

Posted by: natman19 | April 27, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Psst Lindsey -

How long do you think the Post can have a photo of Canadian RW George Laraque up next to the wapo.com front page story link without someone figuring out that ain't Brash?

C'mon, can't we keep brothas in the playoffs straight from those that have been eliminated already?

Posted by: WebberDC | April 27, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

natman19:

Your right it's laroque from montreal!!! COME ON WASHINGTON POST!!!

Posted by: kyle_woodruff | April 27, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Laraque is now gone as of 5:13.

Nice work Lindsey.

Posted by: WebberDC | April 27, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse


I wish you guys would'nt have even commented on that. That is disturbing.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | April 27, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The kiddies came out about oh, say, 4 times Friday night and asked me if there was a fire truck outside. How many times tomorrow night? 5? 6? We have lots of fires at my house :)

GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: JS26121820 | April 27, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Damn that's a lot of outlets for a bunch of whiners to whine on.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

That was going to be my original response but I decided to keep it kosher

Posted by: Moose33 | April 27, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse


It was the right call. Brash gets six games, but they may have lost Betts the entire playoffs. He may not be a scorer, but he is their best faceoff guy and best penalty killer. Come on guys, you know if a Ranger did that to Cap, it would be a different story. Brash added toughness and did not play that many minutes.
Posted by: TheSmurfs | April 27, 2009 5:20 PM |

They did do that to us! OMG - it's the intent to injure not the result dope.
Did you not see Avery's stuff???
No wonder your handle is smurf.
Go get beat up @ school some more.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

That was going to be my original response but I decided to keep it kosher
Posted by: Moose33 | April 27, 2009 5:25 PM |

LOL!
I thought NY-er were better but they just serve it up to us like big matzah balls. Of course none of them have any balls of any kind just like their blue shirts.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Look at the officiating as a whole yesterday. The Caps were shorthanded 8 times yesterday, twice down 2 men! How can a team that completely dominates a game, get called for 4 times the amount of penalties? Do we think someone wanted one team to come back? Not good for TV ratings either when 1 team is blowing out the other.

Posted by: phrankbama | April 27, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Brash gets 6 games for the hit and pre game "festivities" and Avery doesn't get squat for punching Erskine AND Varlamov with a GLOVED hand. How the heck can you explain that? The only thnig I can think of is that the Rangers are the NHL's "home team" What a big bunch of crap. Any word on who will replace him in the lineup? NOT Nylander. Bring back Captain Clark!!!!

Posted by: jwash4472 | April 27, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Got to disagree with everyone on this one.

Brash lifted his forearm up through the guy's head. It's a good call, a bit harsh. I didn't see the Orr clothes-line shot on Semin, but they should've nailed Orr, also. So now Brash will do his time and his hands are clean.

The NHL getting tough on head shots is a good thing, and I'd rather see them be too harsh than to lenient. After all, we've got Ovie, Backstrom, Semin, and Green out there with bullseyes on their heads. This type of ruling does more to help the Caps than to hurt them. We can sit Brash for 6 games.

Go Caps!

Posted by: WritingLight | April 27, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

The Caps are going to come out flying tomorrow; every Ranger should be "suspecting" to get hit ALL GAME LONG (that will take care of the stupid "unsuspecting" thing). Can't wait to see Ovie's first cross ice charge that takes someone's head off.
BTW there's a book called: The Code: The Unwritten Rules Of Fighting And Retaliation In The NHL, by Ross Bernstein. Give you a good idea of why Brash does these things and if you TiVoed the game you can see this coming. I would love to know if Orr pussed out of facing Brash and as a result Betts paid the price.
One more thing - FU CC!!!

Posted by: ColoradoCAPSfan | April 27, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

They did do that to us! OMG - it's the intent to injure not the result dope.
Did you not see Avery's stuff???
No wonder your handle is smurf.
Go get beat up @ school some more.

Posted by: Rocc00

Are you a Jonnie come lately? Did you know what a hockey puck was before Ovechkin? Betts didn't even have the puck, it was dirty. Yea, Green got hit hard, but he got up, Betts didn't. If Betts doesn't have a broken orbital bone, there is know suspension. By the way, the Smurfs was a nickname given the the Washington Redskin receivers during their first Super Bowl win. You probably weren't even swimming in your daddy's balls yet.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | April 27, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The guy is a slimy street thug.

Posted by: cooper100 | April 27, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

i want you all to close your eyes and envision the same play from Brashear but instead of Brashear, its Orr, and instead of Betts getting hit, its Ovie. Now, I don't wish that on you, but I want you to understand where Rangers fans are coming from.

Now you're going to say well Ovie is much more valuable to the Caps, and you're right, but Betts is a huge part of the Rangers. Now imagine you watched Ovie crumple to the ice and have to be helped off the ice because of that hit that Orr laid on him. and today you find out that Ovie is out for the playoffs with a broken orbital bone. Now, I don't think any self respecting caps fan is going to say to me that you wouldn't be a little upset about it. That hit was at a different level and with a different intent than any other hit, from either team in this series. The only other hit that was even close was the hit by Avery in game 3 or 4 on the icing because it could have caused an injury. But even the Avery hit was not nearly as bad or dangerous. Being without Brashear is not going to drastically alter the caps, being without Betts is going to dramatically change the Rangers, particularly the PK.

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

campbel has openly states that he doesn't like the rangers but that it won't affect his ability to be fair, and that tv crew the other night usually talks all negative about the rangers. What brash did was text book interferance, end of story. Like it or not the NHL takes injuries into account, so that's why betts Orr and avery haven't been suspended. Untill bettman decides to change it ( or the owners and gl push for it hard enough) that's the way it is. If green got hurt as bad as bets I would expect 4 or 5 games. Even I was saprosed by 6 , but brash is a guy who doesn't seem to get it, and will do it again if he gets the chance. Avery would have gotten suspended if a player was hurt but since none even missed a shift get over it, the players did.

Posted by: rangerfan44 | April 27, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Got to disagree with everyone on this one.
Brash lifted his forearm up through the guy's head. It's a good call, a bit harsh. I didn't see the Orr clothes-line shot on Semin, but they should've nailed Orr, also. So now Brash will do his time and his hands are clean.
The NHL getting tough on head shots is a good thing, and I'd rather see them be too harsh than to lenient. After all, we've got Ovie, Backstrom, Semin, and Green out there with bullseyes on their heads. This type of ruling does more to help the Caps than to hurt them. We can sit Brash for 6 games.
Go Caps!
Posted by: WritingLight | April 27, 2009 5:35 PM |

Fair accessment by you unfortunately the league is not fair.

& what about Avery, Dubinsky, & Orr?
Dos intent not mean anything?
I guess they'll have to maim some1 on our team before anything happens.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

want you all to close your eyes and envision the same play from Brashear but instead of Brashear, its Orr, and instead of Betts getting hit, its Ovie. Now, I don't wish that on you, but I want you to understand where Rangers fans are coming from.

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Um, wait, I saw that alread, it was Game 5, end of the Third Period, Orr to Semin.

hmmmmmmm.....

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 27, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

want you all to close your eyes and envision the same play from Brashear but instead of Brashear, its Orr, and instead of Betts getting hit, its Ovie. Now, I don't wish that on you, but I want you to understand where Rangers fans are coming from.

Now you're going to say well Ovie is much more valuable to the Caps, and you're right, but Betts is a huge part of the Rangers. Now imagine you watched Ovie crumple to the ice and have to be helped off the ice because of that hit that Orr laid on him. and today you find out that Ovie is out for the playoffs with a broken orbital bone. Now, I don't think any self respecting caps fan is going to say to me that you wouldn't be a little upset about it. That hit was at a different level and with a different intent than any other hit, from either team in this series. The only other hit that was even close was the hit by Avery in game 3 or 4 on the icing because it could have caused an injury. But even the Avery hit was not nearly as bad or dangerous. Being without Brashear is not going to drastically alter the caps, being without Betts is going to dramatically change the Rangers, particularly the PK.

Posted by: JK111 |

I could not have said that any better than myself. Thank you for your post.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | April 27, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Hmm... saprosed.. I don't think I've ever heard that word before. =)

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

gosh, you guys whine a lot....was a late hit and caused an awful, potentially career ending injury. you can't compare it to avery's nonsense. Avery has been penalized countless times this series because his little punches, jabs and high sticks have been violations of the rules that have been punished.

you guys have gotten away with quite a few black letter rule penalties such as Ovie's follow through high stick into rozsivals face in game 3, and so have the rangers. The officiating has been terrible this series but the Brashear hit was of a different species than the others. You have to separate yourself from your team every now and again and recognize what he did to the guy....it was not within the rules of the game by anyone's definition so stop it, you guys are looking silly

Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse


idiotic comments.
Dubinsky's hit on Green was much more dangerous and could have resulted in a bad head or neck injury. Just because it DIDN't doesn't mean the intent wasn't worse. That was a hit on a totally unsuspecting player. Brashear's hit was a tad late, that was it. You shouldn't penalize him because he's so strong and powerful. Milan Lucic could have done the same thing and gotten away with it scotfree

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 27, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Jk, it's pointless, they think the avery or dubi might have hurt someone is a bigger deal than brash actually hurting someone. They are overly bias, and I'm the one telling them they are 2 or 3 players from having the ability to win 3 of the next 5 or 6 cups.

Posted by: rangerfan44 | April 27, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

he definately deserved 1 for the pregame and MAYBE 1 for the hit, but 5 for the hit? guess the nhl is sending a message, what about all the cheap shots on ovie?

Posted by: MondoTE11 | April 27, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"i want you all to close your eyes and envision the same play from Brashear but instead of Brashear, its Orr, and instead of Betts getting hit, its Ovie. Now, I don't wish that on you, but I want you to understand where Rangers fans are coming from."

Ovie wouldn't have gotten caught with his head down. How about some cheese for all the whines, Rags fans?

Posted by: tempusfugitrgv | April 27, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of reading about excuses and whining. I'm tired of this series, on to the next one. Maybe the Caps won't play such crybabies next round, although they could face the Penguins which might be worse.

Posted by: ejohnsto | April 27, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

The only "past history" here is Dale Hunter's "check" on the beloved Patty LaFontaine. gary buttman's beloved. buttman ordered the suspension. BANK ON IT. Watch the penalty calls early tomorrow night. Buttman will have the mice on the blower in the locker room before the game with personal instructions from "the commish". Go order up a corn beef on rye butts.

Posted by: bundy44 | April 27, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse


Are you a Jonnie come lately? Did you know what a hockey puck was before Ovechkin? Betts didn't even have the puck, it was dirty. Yea, Green got hit hard, but he got up, Betts didn't. If Betts doesn't have a broken orbital bone, there is know suspension. By the way, the Smurfs was a nickname given the the Washington Redskin receivers during their first Super Bowl win. You probably weren't even swimming in your daddy's balls yet.
Posted by: TheSmurfs | April 27, 2009 5:39 PM |

Learn the word intent first.
Then we'll talk about if you know who Ron Weber is.
Before you open your mouth you swine traitor. No -smurf is for little wimps like u. Don't compare yourself to those tough guys from the skins - smurffee poo.

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The silly ones are JK and rangerfan44. What the heck to you expect when you're on a CAPITALS blog? Since you two are having a fun time chatting to each other about the rags then why don't you go to rags blog, there are a bunch of rags fans there. Morons! Again, just ignore their comments, it's a waste of time reading.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

What is with Rangers' fans strange obession with Hunter's hit on LaFontaine. Talk about being stuck in the past. Move on.....

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 27, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

@bundy44: it was Turgeon actually not LaFontaine

Posted by: tempusfugitrgv | April 27, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Let's just win game 7 tomorrow and the Rags go home and all this talk about "what's dirty and what's not" will be over. All this crap won't matter after game 7. We will forget about Avery, Orr and all the other players that I can't remember their names. haha.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

What's up with Rangers' fans coming here and trying to explain things to us like they know everything?

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

What's up with Rangers' fans coming here and trying to explain things to us like they know everything?

Posted by: rachel216 | April 27, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

ZING!

Posted by: RedBirdie | April 27, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Bruins vs Jerkguins, Caps vs Devils in the second round. GO CAPS!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: tempusfugitrgv | April 27, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

want you all to close your eyes and envision the same play from Brashear but instead of Brashear, its Orr, and instead of Betts getting hit, its Ovie. Now, I don't wish that on you, but I want you to understand where Rangers fans are coming from.
Posted by: JK111 | April 27, 2009 5:41 PM

Why should we do that?
U mean that if only people who get injured it's a suspension?
So we should forget all the intentional stick work & punches to the head by your hoods right?
I'll remember that when we run your goalie over & over with head shots.
U think all this would have happen if your morons Avery & Dubinski & Orr haven't acted like felons?

U are really THAT stupid aren't you?

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

@ rangerfan44, JK111, and RangersIn5:

you can call us all whiners and say we're pathetic, but the bottom line is you guys have been on a capitals forum for upwards of 2 hours trying to incite us. now that is pathetic.

and rangerfan44, you didn't really just complain about the commentary did you? did you watch the game yesterday? once it was obvious you guys were going to lose, pierre maguire sounded so depressed that i thought he was going to hang himself. during the first intermission, there were maybe two sentences about the caps, who were up 3-1. here's a tissue.

Posted by: nwilson2 | April 27, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah....You guys know your hockey. It was Pierre Turgeon hit 20 seconds shter his goal one again eliminated the Caps from post season play..Get ur facts straight. And BTW this is not a blog...its a post...MORONS

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

JK and RangerFan,

I am not supporting Brashes hit, however, I do support it if the NHL did nothing about Orr's hit on Semin, Dubi's hit on Green, or Avery's swing at Jurcina... what does it take, for someone to get injured like Betts? This all could have been prevented with the suspension of guys that are taking runs at other players. Don't blame Brash, that's his job if the NHL does nothing about it. But, you are right, losing Brash is not as bad as losing Betts. I'm just saying, the NHL could have prevented this had they taken action. The only action they took was when someone got injured.

Posted by: _828 | April 27, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Washington D.C.>>> CITY OF LOSERS!!!!!!

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Whoa, New York fans calling out Washington fans for not winning anything even though their city has won one out of a possible sixty two titles since 2001 (seven teams, nine years, minus two Stanley Cup seasons). Congrats on being 1.6 percent more successful than Washington in that time.

Posted by: nhcaps | April 27, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

is that equal or greater greater greater than the City of Losers? How is the billion dollar payroll working out for you all?

Posted by: _828 | April 27, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse


Yeah....You guys know your hockey. It was Pierre Turgeon hit 20 seconds shter his goal one again eliminated the Caps from post season play..Get ur facts straight. And BTW this is not a blog...its a post...MORONS
Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:01 PM |

That's was weak & non sensical.
WTF is "shter".
Hey - if the site owners call it a blog & copyrights it that way, who are we to judge?

Posted by: Rocc00 | April 27, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Six total is too much. MAYBE 4, maybe. One for bumping Orr for sure, 2-3 three for the hit. Funny though, the refs didn't see any problem at the time, and they've had no trouble hitting people with game misconducts this series....

Posted by: EricS2 | April 27, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Ovechkin will pay the piper!!!!!GO DEVS!

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

A Devil Fan? Shouldn't you be worried about your own series?

Posted by: _828 | April 27, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey...is you mayor still on crack!

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

wow Azzy60,

talk whatever trash you want. But being racist on this blog is NOT okay. Also, you are from the f&*@#$%^ armpit of America. Your city is a trashheap

Posted by: apollak8 | April 27, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't you learn how to pump your own gas?

Posted by: _828 | April 27, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

DEVILS in 5....Caps done

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Eastern Conference Finals::::DEVILS AT BRUINS

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

@JK111: Close your eyes for a minute and just imagine the number of times Avery took a swing at any of our players - Varlamov, Erskine, Green, Jurcina. Then look at the big swing that Orr took at Semin. Yeah, okay, now keep your eyes closed for a minute more. This tetanus shot will hurt for only a little bit but it'll do wonders for your delusions.

Let's get you back down to earth for a second. Your players have been going after our men like a bunch of neanderthals and NOTHING was done to remind them to keep it cool. Our enforcer decided to return the favor, something that would not have been necessary had the NHL and the stupid favoritist referees done their stinking job of keeping Avery and the rest of the thugs on the Rangers on a short leash. But no, the NHL promptly tucked their tail between their legs and held their breath, thinking we wouldn't notice the lopsided enforcement of their own rules. So for you and the rest of the Rangers organization and fan base to cry foul is hypocritical. Spare us the whole victim routine. Crosby does a better job at it than you guys do.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | April 27, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm a very unbiased Caps fan so I certainly will not make excuses for Brashear. Looking at it objectively, Brashear's hit was late, but no later than a lot of other hits you see in games esp during the playoffs. They are penalizing the "result", not the "action". The same hit on a bigger player would not have resulted in an injury. It was a freak thing that he broke his orbital.

The hit by Dubinsky on Green was much more dangerous and malicious. Its a miracle Green walked away from that.

As to the pregame confrontation, Orr clearly goaded Brashear by straddling the center line and Brashear's response was very minimal. For the record, there have been at least 5 incidents this season where players have exchanged shoves during pre-game that never resulted in a suspension.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 27, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

DDDEEEVVVIIILLLSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

oh stop.....so now they suspended him cause he's black>>>stop!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Google Donald Brashear....His track record is nauseating......

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

@azzy60: an ape on the ice? Were you watching Disney on Ice or did you find a missing relative? Dude, your racist comments don't back up anything you say. How utterly narrow-minded and lame. The Rangers are certainly glad they've got classless racist hate-mongers like you on their side.

You might want to wipe all that brown off your nose, dear. It's unbecoming.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | April 27, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Whether or not a Caps player was hurt does not mitigate the egregiousness of the action -- if Brash's hit warrants a suspension, than dubinksy going full bore and slamming Mike Green's head into the boards - which is incredibly, reckless and dangerous, absolutely merits a suspension as well. Because Green was (thank God) lucky enough not to sustain a serious injury means nothing. To suggest otherwise is retarded beyond words.

And what exactly do you rag fans expect? Your cheap shotting, no talent team has been running at the Caps this entire series -- of course the Caps were going to respond in kind, it's clear your players can't take it, so I suggest they stop trying to dish it out.

Posted by: Terpsrule | April 27, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

@azzy60: Congratulations, you just accomplished absolutely nothing! Yay.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | April 27, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

rachel, I thought maybe caps fans who posted would be fair minded hockey fans. When hollweg was saspended again and again rangers fans understood why, and when a penalty Is called we know why. Rangers fans on the "good" boards that say silly things that are basless and are factuly wrong are told to shut up. Here it seems that alot of caps fans are ok with forgetting reality and just spouting things. I can say one thing, for your sake I hope the players are looking at game 7 against the rangers instead of the Easter confrence finals

Posted by: rangerfan44 | April 27, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Im a Devil fan Moron....We'll win tomorrow, you guys do your part...so then we can kick some commie butt!!!

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

6 Games?????

Total B.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: thomas20 | April 27, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Yea, thats what I'll remember from this series (no matter who wins).....
Cap fans coming unglued at the Avery Antics when they had Dale Hunter back in the day...BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Posted by: caphcky | April 27, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

BTW, The NHLPA which provides Brashear with Councel has no objections to the Suspension. TSN. Dreger Report states Betts Concussion is Level 4 which is Career ending. GOOD JOB!

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Not a big hockey fan, but I watch the Caps all the time and when I watch I root for the Caps. From my limited knowledge, I have to say 'What a bullsh|t call!' I've seen things on the ice that would be considered criminal on the street, and those guys get no fines or suspensions. 5 in the box should have been the maximum.

Posted by: 6thandD | April 27, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm fine with the Brashear suspension (the NHL needs to crackdown on these cheap hits, esp to the head), as long as Avery gets punished for his cheap hits also.

Unfortunately for Betts, he may have paid the price for Avery's sins.

Posted by: Cerealman | April 27, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

BTW, The NHLPA which provides Brashear with Councel has no objections to the Suspension. TSN. Dreger Report states Betts Concussion is Level 4 which is Career ending. GOOD JOB!

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

link?

Posted by: Terpsrule | April 27, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Google Donald Brashear....His track record is nauseating......

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

and avery's is pure as virgin snow

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 27, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Dreger Report states Betts Concussion is Level 4 which is Career ending. GOOD JOB!

Terpsrule - knock it off.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that I'm a Rangers fan or such. I've been a Caps fans since the beginning (and I mean that literally--I was at their first home game). There's no excuse for this. This is the kind of thing I see on the Flyers and Pens blogs. I don't expect to see it here.

Posted by: chrisd3 | April 27, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

If Brashear looked like most other hockey players - no way he gets 6 games. But everyone knows the NHL front office is basically an extension of the Rangers front office. Maybe this will motivate the Caps.

Posted by: AlexVa1 | April 27, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

I've been a Caps fan since 1974 and am praying for them to win Game 7 and move on. Having said that, Brashear's elbow hit on Betts was an unnecessary and stupid cheap shot well after the play had gone by. He deserved at least five games for it. His pregame foolishness was just that and shouldn't have resulted in a suspension (except as a makeup call for Tortorella). I believe the Caps are tough enough to take the loss of their so-called "enforcer". If not, maybe they don't deserve to win tomorrow.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | April 27, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Terpsrule - SORRY. You were quoting that, not saying it.

My comment should have gone to azzy60.

Posted by: chrisd3 | April 27, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Terpsrule, I saw the game and the difference between Brashear's hit and Dubinsky's is simple. Dubinsky hit Green in the middle of the play...granted it was a dangerous hit and Dubinsky should have gotten a game misconduct for it. But Brashear blindsided Betts with an elbow long after the play had passed them by. Indeed, he circled around so he could come in from behind Betts. No comparison.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | April 27, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

"..no wonder why my buddies who are caps fans(who are real hockey fans) laugh at these boards. 90% of you have no clue about the sport, the history (i.e Dale Hunter question earlier) or the fact that the rangers are team that should not be taking a 2 seed to game 7."

First off - bad name Rangersin5. That didn;t happen, so your user name is about as stupid as the post I quoted.

Just want to agree with you on one thing, though. The Rangers are NOT a team that took the Caps to game 7 - the goalies, Princess Henrietta, did. Your "team" had nothing to do with it. However, since we solved your goalie with 2...TWO...shutouts, it just proves your point.

You, just like your team, suck.

Posted by: Snowdog | April 27, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Is Colin Campbell on the New York Rangers Board of Directors? I'm certainly no conspiracy theorist, but a six-game suspension for this hit, relative to other actions that take place during every hockey game, is a complete farce. At the most, this is a one-gamer, if that, because the hit was late and obviously delivered because Brashear was pissed off. But 6 games? To shed some light the lack of consistency from the NHL, when the Penguins' Malkin, as big of a cheap shot coward as they come, went out of his way to elbow the Kings' Simmonds in the head at the end of a meaningless regular season game, Colin really laid down the law. He called Malkin on the phone and gave him a stern talking to. The league has a severe credibility problem with issues like this. When a team has been wronged and fans complain, the NHL just writes it off as biased whining. But when objective hockey fans with no vested interest in either team make noise about this injustice, maybe it carries some more weight. I certainly hope so. Good luck, Caps.

Posted by: puckpoker | April 27, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

@StevefromSacto: as a fellow old timer, I couldn't agree with you more. Brashear's shot was very late and very unnecessary.

You & I know that this sort of thing used to go on all the time--but we also know that the game today is a much better game than it was back then. It was clutch and grab, slapshot, cheap shot, fight. Repeat as necessary.

With the game at least partially de-gooned, the great players like Ovechkin, Malkin, and (yes, sorry) Crosby can do the stuff that makes our jaws drop, and it's way better.

We all know that there are still guys out there gunning for the stars, so, unfortunately, we still need a Brashear. I'm hoping that eventually the NHL figures out a way to get rid of this kind of thing entirely. But meantime, save it for when it's really needed. That shot wasn't.

Posted by: chrisd3 | April 27, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Azzy you're making crap up. Darren Dreger has absolutely nothing to say about Betts. And he has a broken orbital bone, not a concussion. You'll be off these boards after your loser Devils get their butts kicked by the Canes tomorrow LOLOLOLOLOL

Posted by: tempusfugitrgv | April 27, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"

Google Donald Brashear....His track record is nauseating......

Posted by: azzy60 | April 27, 2009 6:26 PM | "

Nauseating to who - you? Well then QUIT WATCHING HOCKEY you pussy!

And let me just say something else to you idiots that think Brash is "just a goon" that brings nothing to this team - the 4th line of Brash, Gordo, and Brads was on of our best, most consistent lines throughout the season. Their cycling was fantastic and on many shifts they played, the puck never left the zone.

And now that the Caps are winning, we get a bunch of Czaban/Polins that know NOTHING about the game, airing their idiot opinions.

Please - the Redskin page is over there. Go back to it, and leave the hockey fans alone.

Posted by: Snowdog | April 27, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Learn the word intent first.
Then we'll talk about if you know who Ron Weber is.
Before you open your mouth you swine traitor. No -smurf is for little wimps like u. Don't compare yourself to those tough guys from the skins - smurffee poo.

Posted by: Rocc00
LOL. Yea, I used to listen to Ron Weber on my little radio, I remember many of his calls, my favorite was the John Druce overtime goal against the Rangers to get them to the Eastern Conference finals. He should still be calling games, I don't care much for Steve Kolbe.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | April 27, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse


Terpsrule, I saw the game and the difference between Brashear's hit and Dubinsky's is simple. Dubinsky hit Green in the middle of the play...granted it was a dangerous hit and Dubinsky should have gotten a game misconduct for it. But Brashear blindsided Betts with an elbow long after the play had passed them by. Indeed, he circled around so he could come in from behind Betts. No comparison.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | April 27, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Absolute nonsense, it makes no difference whatsoever if it was during a play or if it was late hit -- it's the play itself that needs to be evaluated -- purposely slamming a player's head into the boards is reckless, dangerous, irresponsible, cheap and dirty -- if you're going to suspend Brashear, then you do the same for dubinsky - and don't even get me started on all of avery's intentional cheap shotting garbage -- Brash should be suspended, I have no problem with that, (although 6 games is a joke) but not suspending dubinsky and specifically avery as well, is appalling and pathetic. No wonder the NHL has no credibility.

Posted by: Terpsrule | April 27, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

@Roco00:

My all-tim favorite Weber call: "Bossy shoots! It's high and wide and, from the Caps point of view, handsome!"

Posted by: chrisd3 | April 27, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

All The Donald did was finish his check on Betts. He didn't hit him from behind. Betts was just unfortunately looking the wrong way. Finishing your check was legal in the NHL for nearly a century. Now if the puck has left the player's possession for a split-second, it's interference (although the refs didn't even make THAT call in this case-- I guess the league doesn't trust its own refs). Not letting a player finish his check makes hockey more like a game of "Excuse me, I really didn't mean to hit you without the puck. You just had it." That should be the way hockey is regulated from the PeeWee level or younger, but above that level, let the boys play. As for the interaction with Orr before the game, come on. What's the problem? Methinks you've got some kind of other agenda when it comes to The Donald and maybe YOU (Colin Campbell) should face suspension for THAT!!!

Posted by: JoeTink | April 27, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Tarik-

can the caps appeal brash's case? it seems to me malkin had a very similar hit against the Kings with like 6 seconds left in a lopsided game. all malkin got was a fine. this league is proving itself as a joke more and more.

Posted by: passerby | April 27, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Tortorella threatens paying customers with a stick and gets one game. Brashear gets 6 for an on ice incident. Ridiculous.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | April 27, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Ya know, I'm all for the 1 game suspension over the pregam scuffle. But 5 games for indeed a great hit is poor officiating.

I love that Mike Wise is just as upset as I am over the Avery-Varlamov punch while a ref was yelling at him, that warranted only a 10 min misconduct. Sure the COACH sat Avery, but the NHL should of suspended him but didn't because the rangers catered to their wish.

So its pretty clear the Rangers and the NHL get to use all the press they want to bend the Caps over their knee, but the NHL will protect the rangers press at all costs.

Posted by: breaklance | April 27, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I am a serious caps fan, but absolutely detest Brashear's dirty play, and that of people like Avery as well. As much as I hate disparate treatment and agree that he probably got too harsh a sentence, I am pleased with the result, and look forward to telling my young boys about the suspension. It is a good life lesson - - cheaters never prosper. Hitting someone as hard as you can when they are not looking and have no reason to brace themselves for a hit is cheesy and a menace. If Avery had knocked out one of our better players and had also tangled with someone during the pre game, I can't imagine people would be incensed. Get real people - - your body and your stick are weapons if used maliciously. Keeping Brash off the ice for 6 games is a gift to the sport of hockey. It's time to trade him anyhow.

Posted by: gocaps2009 | April 27, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Avery gets nothing, not even a warning or disciplinary hearing let alone a suspension for a premeditated full force wild backhand swing with the butt of his stick to jurcina's unprotected face and brashear got 5 games for a clean (but very late) check. that's bs.

how does the league decide on these things? do they have to be initiated by an aggrieved team or does the league independently review them? i ask because it seems quite odd that they havent even investigated any of avery's repeated conduct, the dangerous clothesline on semin or dubinsky's extremely dangerous check of green's head into the boards. is this merely because the caps havent wined or is it the result of nyc based bias?

Posted by: PindarPushkin | April 27, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Rangers fans comparing Betts to Ovechkin or Semin are misguided, to say the least. Betts is a 13 minute ATOI player who couldn't put a puck in the ocean if he was standing on the pier. He is important defensively but a 13 minute player doesn't compare to a 20-25 minute player.

Betts is the Rangers equivalent of David Steckel. Talking about losing Betts being the end of the freakin' world and that you just lost a vital cog in the heart and soul of the team is just asinine. He's a third line checker, for christ's sake.

Posted by: SAFwtw9 | April 27, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't have a problem w/ the 6 game suspension IF the rules were being applied equally to everyone. If Brash deserves 6, then Avery should have had a couple 1 game suspensions already this series.

The long suspension is clearly due to the injury...but what a stupid metric...the NHL is basically saying that you can cheap shot away, as long as no one gets significantly injured.

The rule should be that if you even TRY (as Avery has) to injure another player maliciously or cheaply, you should get a suspension.

Posted by: bigeugene | April 28, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Hockey News for all of you in the Beltway. I know your blind homerism of the Caps will turn blind judgement of a play because the one dishing out the punishment is a Cap. A shoulder hit, of two players who are equal in size, will not result in a broken orbital bone, eye socket, especially when the player wears a visor plain and simple. In order to get under the visor and cause damage to that region of a individuals face another object similar in proportion has to do the damage. Have any of you ever seen a hockey elbow pad? Watch the follow thru in Brashears motion and where his elbow ends up. Clearly the capped portion of a elbow pad would it inflict this kind of damage.

The Rangers have been clearly outplayed in the series by Washington. But to sit here and justify the hit on Betts as clean is just plain wrong. This was done purposely there is no two ways about it, read his quote in teh paper.

Posted by: mlaw44730 | April 28, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

This is rediculous! Sean Avery was flying around hitting people in the face with his stick, and there was no suspension - nothing - his coach had to sit him down it got so bad...but, did the league do anything? No! This is hogwash! Not a fair punishment at all!

Posted by: usee360 | April 28, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Torts benched Avery for his selfish penalties. Torts condoned Avery's behavoir. To listen to you guys calling a dirty hit 100% clean is a joke, especially when the individual who got hit does not play dirty. On top of that he is the Rangers best PK man/draw man. It was a clean elbow to the head, this is a illegal hit. There are no two ways about it. You finish the check with the body part you lead with, please note the extension of Brashear's elbow.

Posted by: mlaw44730 | April 28, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

If you are so concerned about Avery's antics on ice, why didnt Brashear go after him? Ill tell you why. AVery has done nothing this series but get into his own head, the high sticks at the end of the 4th game are a representation of this. Brashear went after Betts due to his positive contribution on a PK unit the Caps were struggling against. Its kind of ironic the Caps had their greatest success on the PP after Betts was gone isnt it?

Posted by: mlaw44730 | April 28, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

"Hockey News for all of you in the Beltway. I know your blind homerism of the Caps will turn blind judgement of a play because the one dishing out the punishment is a Cap"

Okay the last thing we need is your arrogant @$$ coming on here and telling us what we should or shouldn't know. Take your elitist attitude back to NY and stick it where the Sun don't shine.

Posted by: JDB1 | April 28, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay the last thing we need is your arrogant @$$ coming on here and telling us what we should or shouldn't know. Take your elitist attitude back to NY and stick it where the Sun don't shine.

Elitist? Just calling it like it is, unlike your great Beltway coverage. Head hunting has no place in any sport and thats exactly what this was. Sure it is a emotional game, but you never go after someone with the intent to injure. This is shere bush league and a poor reflection on the Capitals coaching staff.

Posted by: mlaw44730 | April 28, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

This is hockey, no ping pong, nor chess. It is a CONTACT sport

Posted by: cordobes17 | April 28, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

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