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Bye Bye J.J.?

Like many Washington area hockey observers, I have this hard to explain fascination with all things Jaromir Jagr. As such, I found this item on John Dellapina's Blueshirts Blog interesting:

Jaromir Jagr scoffed at the notion that he has the equivalent of a $35 million offer from Omsk luring him back to Europe. But while speaking with Czech reporters Friday at a press conference in Prostejov, where he will play in a doubles tennis tournament Saturday with ATP top-tier player Jiri Novak, Jagr held forth on just how conflicted he is about where he'll finish his hockey career.
"Now it´s really complicated," he said. "One day, I´m almost sure to stay in America. The other day, I´m closer to Russia. I really don´t know what will happen over the next days, weeks. Sincerely, I don´t know. And I´m not bluffing, I just really have no clue."

Is it possible we've seen the last of J.J.? Is this just posturing? Or is the Continental Hockey League on the verge of becoming a legitimate option for players like Jagr, who can still be a productive NHLer but draw a bigger salary in Russia?

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  June 28, 2008; 12:24 PM ET
 
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Not a fan but have to admit he's a beast.

He's his own worst enemy, otherwise a player in his own league.
I wish him well at the Casino's.

Posted by: Chief | June 28, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Who cares at this point? He's not coming back to the Caps, and he won't be an impact player on a rival team. Now since it's July 28 and free agency starts in three days my anxiety is running high. Do we have any updates on the Huet situation? Green I'm confident will be back whether it's after July 1st or before, but Huet I'm not so sure. Please please please may the caps announce just one major signing sometime today!!!!! We just became a hockey town and let's face it, it was only cause we were winning and it's pretty hard to win with Johnson as your starter (nothing against Johnny it's just the truth).

Posted by: Who cares about Jagr | June 28, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Take some Meds.
Who cares about your anxiety

Posted by: Chill Out | June 28, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

@chill out
That's fair lol. But come on aren't you just a little anxious about the fact that July 1 is only three days from now, and we have yet to make one major signing even though both our major UFA's have said they want to be back. I know Fedorov isn't a major, he's a luxury, but still not one signing except for Matt Bradley!

Posted by: Who cares about Jagr | June 28, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

bye bye jagr you jerk

Posted by: Anonymous | June 28, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

who cares,

You're so excited your living a month in the future!

Anyway, Byebye JJ. Thanks for nothing. Really

Posted by: Leeguru | June 28, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Jagr is a punk. A classless punk. He should be paying the Caps back all that money he stole.

Yes, the new Russian league will be great for aging NHLers that have already won a Cup or who have given up on winning it in favor of a big payday, as well as for young, nationalistic Russians who grow up watching and idolizing CHL players.

Posted by: oo7 | June 28, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Good riddance indeed.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | June 28, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

who cares. peace out, ya bum.

Posted by: jagr sucks | June 28, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Don't care.

Sign Huet.

Posted by: strungout | June 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Jagr returning to Russia? It would be cruel to tease a girl about this...

Posted by: Jill | June 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"Tennis"? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Sapper | June 28, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for nothin...

good riddance you punk

Posted by: Ted Leonsis | June 28, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if he'll have an easier time evading taxation over there.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | June 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Do they have Jagr's brand of tampon in Russia?

Posted by: eric | June 28, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Sooner or later the Caps are going to have to do like some of the perrenial elite teams do from time-to-time with their better restricted free agents:
"you want more money?
"It's from where? Bumf*ck?
"OKay, bye. Go to bumf*ck.
"We offered you a fair deal to play for us - a team that is going places and dosn't need to offer desperation money.
"But we like Desperate Team's draft pick, cause they're still going to suck this year."

They aren't going to be able to pay everyone all the time. And it will keep things in perspective for other restricted's - or potential free agents - as their negotiation period comes around.

Posted by: austinsteve | June 28, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

In other news, Calgary just re-signed Langkow, Conroy, Nystom, and McIllheny. The Flames entered the day at $13M under the new cap. Together, these four mad 6.8M last year and I assum in the case of Langkow and the latter two, they got raises. That kind of takes them out of the sweepstakes for the higher end RFA's.

Now we need to wonder what the Rangers will do. They are under the minimum at this time.

Posted by: Old Bob | June 28, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Huh ... Tampa acquired rights to Malone. I thought he wanted to stay in Pitt, being a Pitt native and all. I;m guessing that he is bummed about this move! I'll be curious to see what happens.

Posted by: Boo! | June 28, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Jagr sucks.
Cassidy was a perfect choice to tell the best player what to do.

Remind me again, who hired Cassidy ?
Oh, same guy everyone supports to build a winning team.

So sad.

Posted by: Chief | June 28, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh, c4 I forget to add my much sought-after opinion to Caps management:

I do contract consulting work.
I survived one batch of brutal cuts in contract staff because my contract was up at a different time than the majority. I don't know if I was the cheapest, or the best, (I'd sure like to think so!)
but when they decided they needed to make choices my name wasn't on the table.

Hopefully the Caps are considering what they may be giving up tomorrow when they sign Green today. Or vice versa.

It sounds very much that they are thinking about this though.

Posted by: Icebat | June 28, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"like" they are thinking about this though.

Thanks mom- the English teechur

Posted by: Icebat | June 28, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

awww chief, you were doing so well{patronizing tone}

Who hired the other Bruce, you know, the one who's coach of the year?

Posted by: go away | June 28, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Chief,

You do make a good point, but he admitted his mistake. he said in an interview recently (and I can't recall where) that hiring Cassidy was a mistake.

Posted by: Leeguru | June 28, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Boo: Malone is a free agent in 3 days. Why TB would trade a pick knowing they've got zero chance at signing him baffles me. They give up a 3rd if they do and a 4th if they don't.

Posted by: eric | June 28, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN - Others have probably cited this, but I thought it worthy to re-state it.

" The other marquee defenseman not yet under contract is Mike Green of Washington. The smooth-skating Alberta native had a breakout season for the Caps, who won't want to see him leave. Still, it's going to cost a bundle to lock him up, likely in excess of $4 million annually."

In excess of $4 M. Not $5. I could live with that. $4 to 4.5 is where I said he'd be valued at. If that's where we are, I'm not sure of the hold up. Must be the length of time.

Posted by: Greg S. | June 28, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Eric:
Why do you say that Tampa has no chance of signing Malone?

Greg:
I, too, could live with that, but we may be the only two who think that! :-)

Interesting (funny, quirky?) article about Bryan Watson and other tidbits about Caps history:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=366937

Posted by: Boo! | June 28, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

@ Boo!

From last post. Sorry I am late but just got back on CI. My other Brooks would be Robinson, of course.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | June 28, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

CT:
Baseball?!? Who's thinking about baseball in the middle of summer?!? Would Herb Brooks be allowed on the list?

Posted by: Boo! | June 28, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Boo!

Who's thinking about bad Shields movies? :)

No, must have Brooks as the first name to make the list.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | June 28, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

greg s.

4-4.5, thats not where were at

Posted by: common sense | June 28, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

CT:
LOL!! :-) I actually was not thinking about Shields' movies ... and am a little bummed that you have forced my brain to go there! Anyway, I was afraid that you would say that about Brooks. Poor Herb ... can he have an honorary membership?

Amusing blog regarding what it's like to be a fan when the UFA window opens:

http://fans.nhl.com/members/paul_kukla/blogs/17328

A must read for die-hards! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | June 28, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Boo,

From the prior conversation. He@@ yes, keep 55 over 4 and 23. Schultz is by far the most dependable of the three. As painful as it is, I'd then keep 4 over 23. 23 has flashes of good. Brief, fleeting flashes. Leaves you expecting more but disapoints time and again. 4 just sucks, but he is like a bear with a sore a@@ on the ice. He'll fight for his team mates, not well, but he'll drop them none the less. He has grit. It'd be nice if he didn't skate like Happy Gilmore though....

Posted by: Steve R | June 28, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Boo:
Great story about Bugsy -- thanks!

Posted by: uncatim | June 28, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Tarik--Is there any truth to the story on globesports.com that says we're trying to deal Nylander back to the Rangers? See the thread on the Caps Message Board for the link.

Posted by: gtown_caps_fan | June 28, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Tarik, What about Olie Kolzig being the mentor/back-up to Carey Price in Montreal? Seems like a fit or Detroit? or huge long shot Tampa Bay there goalie situation is TERRIBLE!

Posted by: Zack Attack | June 28, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

common sense

And you know that we're not at 4 to 4.5M how?

OK, look. Do we remember back to January and February when we were all speculating on the Ovechkin contract? Oh, how people on this board absolutely KNEW beyond all doubt that it was 10M. No 11M. Well, no one knew, did they. Just like now.

We're all guessing. For all we know, they're haggling over parking spaces.

Posted by: Greg S. | June 28, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

This is interesting. Apparently, the fire sale is on in Pittsburgh. From TSN.

Tampa has exclusive rights to talk to Malone and Roberts. They traded a 4th round pick to get access.

Also, Malone's father is the head TB Pro Scout.

Posted by: Greg S. | June 28, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I hope Jagr rots in hell.

Posted by: uncatims-bro | June 29, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry people I'm going sign... and stop saying, "Hip hip huet," I hate that.

Posted by: christobal huet | June 29, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Oops, I spelled my own name wrong, sorry I'm french.

Posted by: cristobal huet | June 29, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Mk I've been really chill about signings this whole time since Huet and Fedorov have said they want to be back, but seriously if there isn't a signing tomorrow I'm gonna start freakin out worse than a fifteen year old girl who wakes up and finds a zit the day before prom.

Posted by: DC FURY | June 29, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

f jagr...

Posted by: chris larry | June 29, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

"I just really have no clue"
Thanks, Jagrrl. We noticed that too.

Posted by: redlineblue | June 29, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

How bout the Montreal Canadiens sign Mike Green and we virtually flip them off by signing Andrei Kostitsyn, and Mark Streit. Those two together might fit in Green's presumed salary slot. It'd be interesting to see what would happen with the draft picks in that run.

Honestly though, I'd like to keep Green for a reasonable price and bring in a guy like Avery or Tucker to be that SOB the team was lacking in the playoffs.

If Huet doesn't come back, go all in with Jose Theodore.

And those three thoughts are three more reason why I will never be a GM, but in the hockey starved off season we are all GMs

Posted by: Caps 423 | June 29, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

One possible reason for little movement so far -- Bettman

http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Hockey/2008/06/29/6017711-sun.html

Posted by: uncatim | June 29, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Considering that there are effectively 2 goalies in the U/RFA this year, and that Theo pulled a year out last year (ie, struggled mightily), I'd rather just get Huet signed. We know him, not Theo.

I don't think we really need any more forwards. While it'd be nice to have Kosti's production and defensive side up front, I think we have that already - or are developing it.

Streight is a winger multipurposed to D. My jury is out on him.

I would, though, entertain the possibilities of looking at Ottowa. They are most certainly looking at us. Their D-corps has 4 U/RFA's on it. I woulldn't mind a look at Commodore tape before taking a run at him. Commodore turns 29 this year.

Another to look at is Meszaros. Anothr young D-man that will grow into a strong one.

Finally, if an unproven Green wants in the 6M range, why not a proven Redden?

Posted by: Greg S. | June 29, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I hope Jagr gets 35 mil to play in Russia because that would be a dumber contract than the 88 mil Ted gave him. And being banished to Siberia would be a fitting end to career that hasn't been noteworthy since 1992...

Posted by: tokyo fan | June 29, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

I bet Semin will do the same when his two years contract with Caps is over...

Posted by: Lena | June 29, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Boo!

I Like Herb too. He can have a spot on the list.

uncatim

Nice story. Explains a lot.

Lena

Could be right, but he did seem to start to
understand the best way to play. Set up or learning. We shall see. I would like to think he is young enough to still want to play in the NHL and succeed here.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | June 29, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Green is better than Redden who has slipped considerably since his salad days. Green is also ten years younger than Redden. Anyone who pays Redden 5.5-6 M is crazy after they way he played this year.

Posted by: Old Bob | June 29, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Took Ted for a ride, but he's talented. He succeeded in the NHL because the league changed (downward)because they wanted MORE GOALS, MORE GOALS. Now you have a league with too many teams and players on NHL rosters that don't belong. Its not Jags fault, he's a contributor.

Posted by: caphcky | June 29, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Boo!

Thanks for your link to the Bugsy Watson article. I played with Bugsy at the Fairfax rink during the NHL off-season around the time that Bugsy was briefly coach of the Edmonton Oilers. We all wanted to hear what he thought of the young Wayne Gretzky.

Posted by: Joe B | June 29, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Redden is learning to play a more defensive role. I like that he can still score, and that he plays good D. He's becoming a more rounded, more skilled player. Green mostly knows offense. Under a defensive minded Hanlon, he was a failure because he has weak skills there.

Under an offensive Coach B, he's excelling because that's what coach knows he can get. He uses ShoMo opposite him, because ShoMo stays home.

We have a LOT of guns on offense. We don't need a lot more goals from the blue line. We need more defense. That's what Redden gave.

Posted by: Greg S. | June 29, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Greg S,

While I agree that we need more (better) defense, if we score more goals wouldn't the need for defense decrease? Just playing devil's advocate here.

Posted by: Steve R | June 29, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone think that Bouwmeester is going to sign anything longer than a 2 year deal in Fla? Or with everyone focused on Green, is he going to get an offer sheet? Poor guy is trapped in hockey he@@.

Posted by: Steve R | June 29, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

From TheForthPeriod.com - Capitals, Green continue to Talk

The Washington Capitals would like to get defenseman Mike Green locked up to a new contract, but there appears to be a few hiccups in the negotiation process.

According to those close to negotiations, there is a major gap between the two parties.

Capitals GM George McPhee and Don Meehan, Green's agent, are "involved in lengthy negotiations," a source told TFP.

Green is believed to be looking for a long-term deal, but it's uncertain if a deal will be worked out before July 1, when the blueliner officially becomes a restricted free agent.


Green is believed to be looking for around $3.5 million to $4 million per season.(end of post)

If this is true, this should be a done deal. Maybe the hang up is # of years???

Posted by: Nils | June 29, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

During the playoffs nobody would have dreamed about letting Green go. We just sort of assumed he'd sign right away - and that the "young guns" would stay Caps for many years.

I sort of blame him for the situation now - he should have shown some sort of enthusiasm and willingness to stay. Caps management/ownership did show enthusiasm for him. Now many are considering trading him for other D-men, as if he's not "family" anymore.

Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I'd like Commodore with us. Orpik would be the first choice but I doubt we can pull that off.

Posted by: mauree | June 29, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Actually Steve, what you are saying is not entirely crazy, but we do need good skating defensemen. While the Caps have the puck or while the forechecking scheme is bottling the other team up, the Defense is not going to give up any goals. They will give up the odd man break from time to time which is where Huet comes in. Speed on defense will minimize the danger from rebounds.

Posted by: Old Bob | June 29, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

you would rather pay a "proven" (to suck) redden for six mill than an "unproven" (check the stats) green? now youre being ridiculous

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Steve R.

I think that's basically what happened between Thanksgiving and the trade deadline. Screw d, score goals. That production went up, but goals against did, too. We saw Ollie let hung out to dry so many times, and he's old to boot. If he has some help, maybe it wouldn't have been so bad.

Now, Huet show up - younger, better glove movement, better side to side - and the goals against went down. But it didn't help against a Philly team that had a lot of guns of their own, not to mention being able to interfere with impunity. Result is that we watched the rest of the playoffs.

Offense is much more fun to watch. People pay to see goals. Teams win playoffs on defense and goalies. So, which do we want? Goals? Or cups?

Posted by: Greg S. | June 29, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Part of the learning process of a talented but young defenseman such as Green is knowing when to add goals & excitement versus knowing when to protect a tight lead by staying home and helping his other D-man. I think maybe he has the talent to play both roles but still lacks the discipline & maturity. He'll learn.

Posted by: uncatim | June 29, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Greg S,

If we start playing D like NJ, I'll be tempted to stab myself in the eye with a fork. What a boooorrriiinnnngggg team to watch. I vote for middle ground. Defense that can score and the Cup.

Posted by: Steve R | June 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

If Green is asking $3.5-4 mil/year I'd sign him to as many or as few as he wants. 13 seems to be a popular number. I only fear the injury factor as OV and Green celebrate multiple goals, wins, and Cups.

Paul R

Posted by: Paul R | June 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

goals or a cup? thats what it comes down to? come on. or, we had the youngest, maybe second youngest(S.J.?) D in the league, and now theyre all a year older. if we have the same exact team as we did in the playoffs, minus one or two (probably cooke, hopefully not fedorov), plus alzner and a healthy nylander and clark, theres no reason we cant be fighting for a cup as early as this upcoming season. another great deadline day from mcphee wouldnt hurt either.

Posted by: sign everyone | June 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

CT Caps Fan,

Honestly, I want Sasha to be here in Russia, so that was more my wish then something that I really believe in... Anyway, Caps fans compare him to Jagr: а locker-room cancer and so on... So the next expectable thing should be moving to Russia :)

Posted by: Lena | June 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Just thought of something. The Bolts trading a 3rd or 4th to talk with Malone before July 1. Does this mean they're getting no where talking with Prospal? What did they give Philly to own Prospal's rights until July 1?

Posted by: Steve R | June 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, where to begin! :-)

CT:
Good call (and Herb says, "Thank you!").

Tim/Joe:
Glad you enjoyed the article (Joe - I remember you mentioning playing with him before; he's a nice guy ... must have been a riot!). Have you ever been to Bugsy's (aka The Penalty Box)?

Steve:
Your post about our Dmen made me laugh ... in a good way!! :-) JS, MJ and JE are all lacking, but in different ways. None are a pefect fit.

JS probably has the most long-term potential, but he has just not grown into himself yet. It is hard to tell how long it will take for him to do so.

MJ has the most immediate potential - his inconsistency tells me that it is all in his head. If he could just get out of his head, he could be really good. The past couple of years have been tough for him ... maybe he will settle into himself this season?!?

JE does not have great potential, but he does have grit, which I really like in a hockey player ... especially a Dman. You call him a bear (actually more colorfully than that :-)), and I call him a bulldog; either way, he adds a nice element to a well-rounded defensive team. The problem is that we don't have a solid Dteam.

So, as far as those three go, I don't think there is A right answer. If there is one, I think it depends on what happens July 1.

In terms of D not being as important if we are scoring, I disagree - we lost games last season because of a poor defensive showing. Those loses were often attributed to Olie, but the reality is that there were a lot of goals that never should have even gotten to Olie.

Posted by: Boo! | June 29, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey posters! I'm really worried about our guys becoming free agents! I just thought I'd let you all know! Exclamation points!

Posted by: Jordan | June 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Boo,

It all comes back to the goalie. I just hope like he@@ that one of the youngsters turns into a game stealer. A high end goalie can hide a lot of defensive ills, though in a couple years time when the youngsters are ready our D should be solid(er).

Posted by: Steve R | June 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

If I was a betting man.......lol

http://sapper.blogtownhall.com

Posted by: Sapper | June 29, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Jordan,

Yea, I'm hoping I can still wear my #52 come October...

Posted by: Steve R | June 29, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Steve:
True, but a goalie alone cannot a team make. Regardless, wherever we land defensively, I am betting that we will be solid-er this season! ;-) I would not be surprised if we picked up a new Dman and/or signed Green, plus I bet 23 and 55 will be better this season. So, all-in-all, not perfect, but solid-er ... :-D

Posted by: Boo! | June 29, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to try to imitate NJ on D. As in all things, there is a happy median where good D and good O meet. We're going to allow goals. It happens.

I don't mind having Green at all. I would like to see (for the millionth time) another stay home D man that is physical.

Posted by: Greg S. | June 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

re: globesports.com article:
I am really happy to hear that we are trying to dump Nylander. I hope it works. I am especially glad to hear that the prospective move is about keeping Feds. Age-hate, whatever; Feds is awesome. He can be a critical piece for us next year, and his age is likely to pare his salary down a Mil or two. Things look good in this dept. I've heard some say that Feds was playing over his level last season, I can't wait for you to learn how wrong you are. He's fired up to be back in Red with a bunch of young talented Russians. I say we make his wish come true. But for something less than $6M/yr.

@Zack Attack
I think if the Habs want to bring in a mentor figure for Price, they will want a keeper who's actually won something in his life. I think LA is the most natural destination for kolzig. They deserve each other.

@Tarik
I guess some people deal with emotional wounds differently. I have no fascination with JJ. I just wonder sometimes what happened that caused him to fizzle the way he did when he was here, and to come back to form in NY. That, I think, is a mystery of the universe, and I don't even really like hearing his name.

@Steve
The trap is only boring to watch for the victims, or for unaffiliated viewers. When YOUR forwards are the ones grinding the forecheck and chasing puckhandlers up trees, they are good days. That is reason #1 we keep Feds: his forechecking is fantastic. If I thought we had the skills, chemistry and mentality to play the trap game full-on, I'd be ecstatic. The trap is the major reason Brodeur is an institution. If he'd been stuck in

Posted by: Defense Wins Championships. | June 29, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Lena,

Let the tug of war begin. :)

It will be interesting.

I would be surprised if they traded away Nylander in order to try to keep Feds. Not saying they won't, just that I would be surprised.

Posted by: CT Caps Fan | June 29, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Greg S,

I agree, we need Green and a S@H. Be nice if we knew how much $ was avail, it would tell us which players to put on the wish list.

Defense Wins,

The trap sucks. It takes a beautiful flowing game and reduces it to a fur ball coughed up by a big a@@ cat. Like I said, poke my eye out. Nyls and Feds would be nice.

Boo,

Yup, a more solid D will be good :)

Posted by: Steve R | June 29, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

DWC--agreed on Feds over Nyls, but I see the latter and not the former in 08-09. Hopefully we have them both, but I would hold out for a healthy** Nyls to work wonders with OV/Semin

I don't think BB would be ecstatic to play the trap; not his style, and not the style of the team we have. Moreover, the new(ish) rules of no center line don't favor trapping teams, because they have twice the space to cover. For all it's worth, the NJ trap of the pre-lockout era is done.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

*signed*

Posted by: bigonetimer | June 29, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Steve R | June 29, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

If tampa signs both of those guys i would have to say they have a pretty potent set of forwards and are built for the long term

Vinnie
St Louis
Stamkos
Malone
Prospal (maybe)
Halpern

Get ready for a tough year ahead in the SE.

Posted by: cup1975 | June 29, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

If tampa signs both of those guys i would have to say they have a pretty potent set of forwards and are built for the long term

Vinnie
St Louis
Stamkos
Malone
Prospal (maybe)
Halpern

Get ready for a tough year ahead in the SE.

Posted by: cup1975 | June 29, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

@ cup1975
It won't matter how good, or how bad the lightning are if we don't get a goalie we won't have a chance.

Posted by: DC FURY | June 29, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Eminger resigned with the Flyers. I'm sure everyone on here already knew this, but my question is; isn't a signing like that usually something Tarik would update with. I know this is wishful thinking, but does anyone think he's on to something? Like when he was waiting IN THE RAIN for Ovechkin to sign his new deal. Please say he's waiting in the surprisingly nice weather for Huet to sign.

Posted by: grasping at straws | June 29, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Hahaha. that's pretty funny. Not spying on anyone at the moment. but I am making a lot of calls today, including a message to Steve Eminger. Unfortunately, not many folks are picking up their phones. must be watching nascar -- or perhaps deep in negotiations.

Tomorrow, obviously, is a pivotal day.

Posted by: Tarik | June 29, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Tarik- hahaha yeah well can you blame me? we've got less than 48 hours before we're in deep ****. Let's just hope they're in negotiations, and the deals will be announced soon lol

Posted by: grasping at straws | June 29, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

screw tomorrow let's get some signings today!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 29, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

ALL of our RFA's have had qualifying offers. No one gets off without having the offer refused by the Caps. It's not like Green will walk without us having last say.

Green, ShoMo and the other RFA's will maybe get qualifying offers. If they don't, the qualifying offer stands. If they do get an offer (or more than one), the Caps have the opportunity to match the highest offer.

Posted by: Greg S. | June 29, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

@greg s
We know RFA rules...probably better then any other fans, it's Huet I'm worried about. If he wants to stay, we want him to stay, and only wants a three year contract, WHY ISN'T HE SIGNED!!!!!!

Posted by: DC FURY | June 29, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure what will happen with the UFA's. Agents like to play brinkmanship. We'll have to see who blinks.

I can't imagine that Huet wants to go to someplace like TB or LA. I don't see Mrs. Huet wanting either of those culturally bereft places.

I also don't think a lot of teams will want to pay much for an aged forward, either. I'd imagine that Feds wants to play, and would prefer to play here. I don't think that this talk of moving Nylander will happen (consider the source), and is more Canadian smoke-blowing.

Posted by: Greg S. | June 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

DC:
Maybe Huet is waiting to see what he can get elsewhere in the hopes that the Caps will match ...

Posted by: Boo! | June 29, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Boo:
An interesting concept, I hope you're wrong and he'll resign in a matter of minutes, but that sounds like a definite possibility.

Posted by: DC FURY | June 29, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

DC:
Isn't that what Mikey is doing?!? :-)

Posted by: Boo! | June 29, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

UFA's don't have to go to management and say, hey, I got this better deal from the XYZ's. They can just take it. I think that normally, the agent will do that to play one team off another. Again, part of the negotiating strategy.

Posted by: Greg S. | June 29, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm with the WHO CARES Crowd - He never really caught my attention, even at his best.

Really can't wait till next season. LETS GO CAPS!!!!!!

Posted by: Usually Frustrated Caps Fan | June 29, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Boo:
Yeah, but Greenie's an RFA it's less likely he'll get an offer than Huet, and there's no rule guaranteeing the caps the last say in Huet's contract.

Posted by: DC FURY | June 29, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Greg:
I agree - I think it is a negotiating tactic (I never thought that Huet was having the conversations directly ... if he was, then what's the point of having an agent?).

DC:
True, but that does not mean that he would not use other offers as leverage.

Posted by: Boo! | June 29, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Maybe its just me, but as far as Huet goes, I don't get the feeling he'd just take another offer. He seems like a really classy guy that would probably ask his agent to bring the other teams' best offer to GMGM so the Caps could at least have a chance at matching. Just the vibe I get from him. Maybe I'm over estimating him, but he seems like a good guy.
I'm not panicking yet for any of them. I get the feeling that's not normal for June 29th, but who cares. I don't think any of our UFAs or RFAs are gunning to get out of Dodge, so its just a matter of time before we hear something.
I'll miss Cooke, but he's the one I'm 99% sure won't be back. Hopefully his time in DC will give him back whatever he seemed to have lost the last season or so playing for the Canucks.
Let's go Caps!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | June 29, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

new thread!

Posted by: look ma ... | June 29, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

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