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Posted at 11:50 AM ET, 02/28/2011

Capitals trade for defenseman Dennis Wideman

By Lindsay Applebaum

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The Capitals' Mike Vogel reports that Washington has sent prospect Jake Hauswirth and this year's third-round pick to the Florida Panthers in exchange for defenseman Dennis Wideman.

The move gives the Capitals' blue-line corps a bit more depth, as Tom Poti and Mike Green are both dealing with injuries.

Wideman, 27, has nine goals, 24 assists and is a minus-26. He has one year left on his contract and a salary cap hit of $3,937,500.

The Capitals are now slightly over the cap, according to capgeek.com, so they're likely not done yet.

RELATED LINKS
--Coach Bruce Boudreau: 'I think it's a great pickup'
--Wideman helps bolster blue line with Green, Poti injuries

By Lindsay Applebaum  | February 28, 2011; 11:50 AM ET
 
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Comments

Awesome, another defensive liability! Also means we should be concerned about Green's health. Depressing.

Posted by: jakopz | February 28, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Corvo 2.0

Is Green done for the year? Also, did we use up all our cap room on Strum and Wideman?

Posted by: underpants2 | February 28, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The thing is Wideman is more of an offensive Dman, moving the puck well and plays on PP.

I'm really hoping this doesn't mean that Green is out long term.
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After thinking about this, I bet what this means is Poti is going on LTIR or at least may not be available for playoffs.

Needless to say Wideman is a HUGE upgrade over Poti. I hear people talking about his +/-. Don't let that be a concern, it is purely b/c he is on 1 of the worst teams in the NHL. He was a very very sold Dman for Boston when he was there.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully it's Poti (and Sloan) who are done for the year with Wideman coming in, not Green.

Posted by: yosemite_sam | February 28, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I didn't know that Dennis Wideman was a 2nd line center...

Posted by: Albright4Snapper | February 28, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

good depth pickup- smart move

Posted by: lylewimbledon | February 28, 2011 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Sturm played with Wideman in Boston. Steven Hindle (Hockeybuzz) just tweeted that he asked Sturm about his playing time with Wideman. Sturm said, "he was our best defensemen in the playoffs".

Like I said, very nice move here and he has a yr left on his contract so he isn't a rental.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 11:57 AM | Report abuse

#Caps Sturm on playing with Wideman in Boston "He was our best defenseman in the playoffs"

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 28, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

@pokerface1208 He was good in Boston although his last year there, he was an absolute nightmare which resulted in him being traded. His last two seasons have been terrible.

Posted by: jakopz | February 28, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

This is a good trade. He's very good on the PP. Much better defenseman than people give him credit for. But something else is up I think.

I assume Poti is on LTIR. But something else is coming soon...or at least I hope.

Posted by: ThePat | February 28, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Does this mean Poti is retiring? How many D do we have under contract for next year? Green, Schultz, Erskine, Poti, Alzner, Carlson, Wideman.

Does this mean Schultz is out of here?

Posted by: underpants2 | February 28, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

According to @CapGeek - the #Caps are now $57k over the salary cap. They will likely make a roster move(or another trade) to correct

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 28, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Dennis Wideman is a defensive liability. He is a -26 on a team that has defensemen in the + category. Weak move. Probalby indicates Green has a concussion because Wideman is considered a puck moving defenseman. I've seen him for years but has never stuck out. Does anyone really have some insight on whether he plays physical or is just a puck mover. I would really be interested in your assessment cstanton1. Someone mentioned his +/- is so bad because he's on the Panthers, well, the next worst +/- is -19. Like I said, there are defensemen on the Panthers that are actually in the + zone. Wideman plays big minutes but -26?

Posted by: fanohock1 | February 28, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

@ThePat and/or Pokerface - is this one of the moves you were expecting? Or is that still yet to come? Inquiring minds want to know!

Posted by: Thisistheyear | February 28, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

@Albright4Snapper

Very funny!!!! Thanks for the morning chuckle.

Posted by: AADCDERM | February 28, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Right-handed shot. Gives us three with green and Carlson.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't get this at all unless Green is done for the year (not good) - we've got enough Wideman type D-men on the team already.

Posted by: rskinsfan | February 28, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

bolster the blueline, okay. but that really hasnt been the problem for the team

Posted by: doughless | February 28, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock he was also a +32 just two years ago.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 28, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse

just pair him with one of our solid, stay-@-home defensemen

er...isn't THAT what we needed?

Posted by: mcintire_will | February 28, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Lyle - the more I think about it the more I like this move. Wideman is a great Dman. Understand when Wideman was traded he was traded for Nathan Horton who is a great offensive talent. We now snack him for a 3rd and a prospect. And he has a yr left at 3.5M. This is a fantastic pickup. Like I said, I just hope Green isn't out long term.

@ThePat

With you contact being on the "inside", shouldn't they also be able to find out if Green is truly day to day or is it more long term.

I'm sure with all of our wonderful beat writers, somebody will ask GMGM in the presser later how Green is doing.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

lets be honest: has green really been a difference maker this year??

Posted by: doughless | February 28, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

icehammer: I'm a kool-aider. +32 two years ago doesn't trump -26 right now.

Posted by: fanohock1 | February 28, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

We didn't claim Conklin. SO guess Varly isnt hurt too bad.

Posted by: ThePat | February 28, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

-not claiming Boynton for depth

posted by vermontcaps

As I recall, GMGM drafted Boynton back in 99 or 2000. Boynton refused to sign with the Caps. GMGM said Boynton would never play a game in the NHL cuz he was not an NHL caliber player.

So I doubt that Boynton would have accepted the claim to come here (see Nabokov to the Islanders). But then again, you probably know all of this.

Posted by: capsfan0837 | February 28, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Needless to say Wideman is a HUGE upgrade over Poti. I hear people talking about his +/-. Don't let that be a concern, it is purely b/c he is on 1 of the worst teams in the NHL. He was a very very sold Dman for Boston when he was there.


Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse


Would add that he has been a minus every year except 2, every team (incl AHL). Career -38.

Posted by: jerry2178 | February 28, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't his cap hit indicate the Caps have to move some salary??

Posted by: jmol2112 | February 28, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I am on the side that likes this move - as long as it means that Poti is out for the year.

He is much, much better than useless Poti, and could be a good fit to play with Hannan.

Green-Shultz
Carlson - Alzner
Wideman - Hannan
Erskine

Good defence I think. You could even change Erskine for Shultz or whatnot, but I like this defence MUCH more than any group that included Poti

Posted by: Aldred15 | February 28, 2011 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Sturm + Wideman = 7.375.

Fehr + Poti LTIR = 5.7.

Available space .675.

For 23% of season to go, = $2.25M above per day.

Sturm + Wideman are 1.8 over the LTIR, so fits I think. For now.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

More on the trade here:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=554458
Caps make deal for defenseman, land Wideman NHL.com The Washington Capitals have made another addition to their defense corps, picking up Dennis Wideman from the Florida Panthers for a third-round pick in the 2011 Entry Draft and prospect Jake Hauswirth.

Wideman has 9 goals and 33 points in 61 games for the Panthers this season. He is a minus-26 this season, but was a plus-32 in 2008-09 with the Boston Bruins. He has one more season left on his contract that carries a $3,937,500 cap hit. He will make $4.5 million next in 2011-12.

The Capitals added defenseman Scott Hannan from Colorado earlier this season for Tomas Fleischmann, but Tom Poti has missed 42 games this season because of reoccurring lower-body injuries and Mike Green has only played once since Feb. 12 after taking a puck to the ear. He left that one game early after a check from Rangers forward Derek Stepan.

With Green out the Capitals have been relying on rookie John Carlson to quarterback the power play next to Alex Ovechkin on the points. Washington had the No. 1 power play in the NHL last season and No. 2 in 2008-09, but has slumped to 25th this season at 16.3 percent.

Washington now has seven defenseman with one-way contracts for 2011-12 with Hannan as an unrestricted free agent and Karl Alzner has a restricted free agent. Those seven players count for $17.8575 milion against the salary cap.

Hauswirth was signed as an undrafted free agent before the 2009-10 season. The 23-year-old Hauswirth has 10 goals and 14 points in 37 games for South Carolina of the ECHL this season.
This is Florida's second trade Monday. Earlier in the morning, the club traded veteran forward Radek Dvorak and a fifth-round pick to Atlanta for forwards Niclas Bergfors and Patrick Rismiller.

Posted by: Ronny22 | February 28, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

wideman has 8 PP goals this year. Certainly will help the power play. I think OV has 5.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | February 28, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't sound like Green is done.

#Caps Boudreau says Green won't be back from Calgary for Tuesday and Thursday's game, they expect him back for the Fla trip this weekend

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 28, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

If they wanted another Joe Corvo, they could have gotten actual Joe Corvo for cheaper, I bet.

That said, they didn't really give anything up for him so I can't complain too much, it's just that when I think about this team's needs *Another* OFD wasn't something that came to mind right away.

Posted by: VTDuffman | February 28, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

in better news....DJK cleared waivers!!

Posted by: _stevo | February 28, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

@pokerface

problem is he went right to Calgary for his grandmothers funeral on Saturday morning. So if he has a concussion they wont test him until he returns. So hard to even guess on that or get info concerning it.

Posted by: ThePat | February 28, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Wideman better than Sloan - perspective people.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | February 28, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

our GM is an idiot. I was hoping that I am wrong, but this moves just made me speechless. I couldn't believe when I saw his +/- ranking

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 28, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone think this team doesn't need help on the PP? Maybe we can get Ovi down low every now and again if he doesn't have to spend all his time on the point.

Posted by: psujohn | February 28, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Wideman also was +3 with 12 points in the playoffs last year for the B's

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 28, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Let's call it insurance bought with two boxes of donuts. Green has a head injury. It may clear up tomorrow or in a year (think Pothier), or never (think Lindros). Poti's groin is going to still take time to heal, if it heals this season. We've seen our power play without Green and we need an offensive defenseman. Carlson is not ready to assume that role full time. Given the Steckel news, I suspect, he's on the block for that second line centerman.

Posted by: genericrepub | February 28, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

If Green truly had a concussion would the doctors have allowed him to fly? I understand that is one thing that exacerbated Crosby's concussion - he flew to Montreal after the games with the Steckel and Hedman hits. I don't think the doctors would have allowed that.

Posted by: Thisistheyear | February 28, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

@ThePat

I fear they have already tested him ... :-(

Posted by: FCKoeln1 | February 28, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Boynton was originally picked by Poile, but it was McPhee who let him go back into the draft.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

it will take more than Steckel to pull a decent 2nd line C

Posted by: doughless | February 28, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Surprise no one wanted King, how could every GM pass up such a great fighter?

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 28, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Corvo 2.0

Is Green done for the year? Also, did we use up all our cap room on Strum and Wideman?

Posted by: underpants2 | February 28, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse


You stole my post.

Posted by: Bricucci1 | February 28, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

he's better than Corvo. But not a great dman. Just a capable one. I don't have a problem with this move. Jake Hauwswirth has been a real disappointment imo. He doesn't use his size well and that's why he's been stuck in the ECHL. McPhee can't do much with 3rd round picks so losing one isn't a big deal.

It all depends on WHO Wideman will be replacing. If he replaces Erskine, its a stupid trade. If he replaces Sarge or Sloan in the top 6, it makes more sense.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

in better news....DJK cleared waivers!!

Posted by: _stevo | February 28, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Plus/minus is the most worthless stat in sports.

Posted by: Sticksboi35 | February 28, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

The top 6 should be

Carlson, Alzner, Erskine, Hannan, Green, Wideman.

(not a Cup roster, but a decent 1st round defensive roster).

If Green is out, then I'd rather see Sloan in there over Sarge. But Erskine needs to be in there nightly. Not situationally.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm wondering if Green really has that bad a head injury, would they let him get on a plane to Calgary?

I hope it's not serious.

Posted by: Ve1ostrummer | February 28, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Anyone referencing plsu/minus needs to go back to sports school, especially in hockey unless you are going to imply Schultz was better than Keith last year...He was a + 32 in 08-09 on a great Bruins team...but he wasn't better than Chara...

Posted by: Sticksboi35 | February 28, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

@icehammer97

... as was discussed previously there are only a few knowledgeable GMs around ... most of the GM are "bunglers", unable to put a team together that wins a Cup ... ;-)

Posted by: FCKoeln1 | February 28, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Surprise no one wanted King, how could every GM pass up such a great fighter?

Posted by: icehammer97

I don't know. Guess they weren't stupid enough to trade a prospect for a guy who they could get for free.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Guys this is a great move. Wideman is a great Dman. Don't throw his +/- at me when you don't even watch or know anything about the player. That's as brilliant as somebody saying Schultz led all Dmen last yr in +/- so he must be nominated for a Norris.

Wideman plays in all situations and was a great Dman on Boston when he was there. He's in Florida! He plays against every teams top lines night in and night out. When Florida can't score to save their life, what do you think his +/- gonna be? Same thing when you throw 55 out there with 8, 19, 28 & 52.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

The Bag of Donuts we gave up isn't concerning its the salary for this guy. Granted should help the PP and get OVI off the point, either someone is leaving the current team or we are done. Lets hope its 1st statement and not the latter.

Posted by: Bricucci1 | February 28, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Nothing wrong with this move, he adds to the PP and we didn't give up much.

Posted by: jmy999 | February 28, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Target Acquired.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | February 28, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Someone has to go in order for GMGM to get a center unless he plans to stick with MarJo @ 2C and use Laich or B.Gordon @ 3C.

Posted by: ablake70 | February 28, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

our GM is an idiot. I was hoping that I am wrong, but this moves just made me speechless. I couldn't believe when I saw his +/- ranking

Posted by: beforeitstoolate |

Don't get too caught up in his +/-

He's an ok player. I didn't feel vomit rise to the back of my throat when i saw this deal the way I felt when we got Corvo.

Wideman is a guy who gets a lot of dump and chases in his end of the ice. He was more protected in the Boston lineup with Chara. But forwards love to dump and chase him and hammer him into the boards. That being said, he competes harder for the puck than do guys like Corvo or Poti.

This should be one of about 4 moves. On its own it means very little.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Shultz was + 55 last year. That should tell people all they need to know about the +/- stat in hockey.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | February 28, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Prepare yourselves for about twenty paragraphs of explosive diarrhea from tmac2yao.

Posted by: tw46 | February 28, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I have posted before, Boudreau likes pairs of D men who are similar. Green, Carlson and Wideman are three RH D who are O minded.

They can be paired with Hannan, Ersk, Alzner or Schultz as LH D who are more D minded.

Wideman and Hannan as previously non-Caps will probably make a nice pair.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:18 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people want to say the +/- is a worthless stat but hockey people always attached that the the primary stat line. It is a good indication of a player's ability to play at even strength. It is a stat that is used A LOT when looking at defensemen.

Posted by: fanohock1 | February 28, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Capsgeek has not been updated for DJ King clearing waivers. Aren't the Caps now below the cap?

Posted by: hockeygood1 | February 28, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Richards commented that he has not been approached to waive his NTC.

Posted by: robostop10 | February 28, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Wideman on NHL Network: "Wants to help on the PP. He said he talked to GMGM but he was very busy so the conversation was short. I'm good with no longer having to chase OV & Backstrom around anymore. GMGM said he wants him in the lineup tomorrow."

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Richards commented that he has not been approached to waive his NTC.

Posted by: robostop10 | February 28, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

The addition of Wideman must mean Poti on LTIR, and perhaps Schultz getting dealt. We have too many defensemen under contract.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 28, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Sure he plays in all situations. When he is even strength situations (minus short-handed goals of course) he is obviously failing miserably.

Posted by: fanohock1 | February 28, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

TSN trade center crew gave mixed reviews.
Time will tell!

Posted by: hunter321 | February 28, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

From Hockeybuzz


*It should also be noted that this move currently puts the Capitals $57k over the salary cap so they will be forced to make another move(trade, demotion, waivers, etc...) in order to make the proper adjustments.

Posted by: Tprpolen | February 28, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The other thing about this trade is maybe BB will finally pull his head out of his shoulders and put Ovie back on the half wall. He shouldn't be on the point.

Posted by: robostop10 | February 28, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Sticksboi35 | February 28, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse


LOL, check how many goals scored last season. Half of the team was in top 30 +/-

Posted by: beforeitstoolate | February 28, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I hope another shoe drops somewhere, as I had hoped Hannan would be back next year.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Wideman plays in all situations and was a great Dman on Boston when he was there.
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a great dman for Boston? no

a decent dman who was playing with a much better partner than he will have here.

Play Joe Corvo with Tim Gleason and he's a better player than he was here as well. Play Dennis Wideman with Chara and he is more protected than he'll be here.

Wideman was an inconsistent player with Boston. Far from a "Great Dman"

I'm not bagging on him. Just that his situation with Boston isn't the same as he'll have with the Caps. And Boston wasn't that happy with him longterm because he'd have a solid game and then he'd cough up the puck and be a liability. It has to do with his size more than anything else. Not many NHL dmen can play bigger than their size ala a Beauchemin.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Sure, give up Semin plus for the guy who can make this team into something that doesn't lose 6 zip to the Rangers at home late in the season.

If you can find that guy, trade for him twice.

I think that's GMGM's dilemma, you probably have to figure out what went wrong with this year and start fixing that before wondering about the Cup again ..but I doubt it's one person and probably not only the players.

Big changes in off season. Hopefully.

Posted by: tslats | February 28, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

@Poker,

Have you heard how plans A and B are coming? Did the dance partner for A help or hurt their playoff hopes over the weekend?

Posted by: Chucks20707 | February 28, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I guess GMGM is loading up on guys that have been shipped out of Boston...who's next: Phil Kessel???

Posted by: Sportaholic | February 28, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Lebrun just said the Devils have suitors for Arnott. Me thinks GMGM is on the phone with Lou.

Posted by: robostop10 | February 28, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Shultz was + 55 last year. That should tell people all they need to know about the +/- stat in hockey.

Posted by: capsfansince74

so the same fans who once pointed to sarge's stats as evidence of how good he was are now using that stat in a different way to support a different argument.

how disingenuous.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I see that I am not the only person listening to Tradecentre.

This move doesn't look like a total head scratcher like the Corvo thing.

I like Wideman if placed in the right situation/role on the team.

Ya gotta see the whole trade day "body of work" to see what "the Undertaker" is up to!

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | February 28, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I like how after one move a lot of dumping going on. Can't we at least wait until the trade deadline has passed to bash? I suspect unless GMGM manages to get the next Ray Bourque and Wayne Gretzky for a bag of pucks (insert your Tom Potu or Sarge joke here), most people here will not be happy.

Posted by: jbears1 | February 28, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Do they have coverage on NHL Network? Just called my wife to have her record it for me and she stated they were scheduled to show a game from last night??? Seems weird to me.

Posted by: PhilR | February 28, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

@ WTF

...I can;t remember seeing sooooo many people in one studio for a trade deadline. BTW, I thought the kiss-fest for the year anniversary for Crosby's Olympics goal was pandering at its finest.

Posted by: robostop10 | February 28, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

All the analysts said the Corvo trade was a good move for the Caps. They even went so far to say the GMGM was a big winner on deadline day. I'll take what they say with a grain of salt.

Posted by: ablake70 | February 28, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse


I'll put it this way. I would much happier with this acquisition if we had a different look on defense than we currently do.

Wideman can be a good addition to any team that is already at least 4 deep with solid defensive dmen.

I know the Caps have played better defensively this year. But if you look at recent trending, their defense still needs work. Sarge is looking worse every game. Alzner's game has been going down the tubes. Carlson is inconsistent. Erskine is what he is. And Green is out. Hannan is steady but he's not a shutdown dman.

I think our D is far from complete.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

@TOM

I agree. I really want Hannan on this team next year....I'm sure some other moves will be made. I'm just left kinda in the middle on this one. Hopefully the other moves will put us more in the direction we were hoping.

Posted by: OVIHtrick8 | February 28, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

BB's comments about Green returning mean nothing. It would be moronic of him to express anything but optimism before 3pm today, and I'm sure GMGM made that clear to him.

Posted by: kjm1971 | February 28, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Hannan paired with Wideman would be a great D pairing. Hide 55 w/52 and then the kids.

NOW ou D is complete! LOL! The only critisism that could be made is the toughness. This obviously means #4 is the odd man out so now our tough Dman is Hannan. While I really like Hannan this isn't a role he would thrive in. On the other hand this will be a quick transition team as ALL of our D can move the puck and quick.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, SB Nation's take:
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/players/54868/dennis-wideman/career
Assets
* Owns excellent puck skills and is a quality asset at the point with the man advantage. Can log a lot of minutes.

Flaws
* Doesn't play the body nearly enough (he'll fit in, right? :D), and struggles in defensive-zone coverage. Will cough up the puck at the wrong time. Lacks consistency.

Career Potential
* Offensive big-minute defenseman.
==================
I'd look at the glass as half full:
*They didn't have to give up what they did for Corvo last year
*He's very durable (76, 79 and 81 games last 3 seasons)
*He shoots the puck a lot, which when Green/Poti are out, is something our remaining D seem unwilling/unable to do.
*He's not Tyler Sloan. :)

Posted by: blackjack65 | February 28, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

TSN trade center crew gave mixed reviews.
Time will tell!


Posted by: hunter321

none of those guys know anything. Last yr all the "analysts" were creamin their thighs when we acquired Belanger and Corvo.

The only folks who really know how to evaluate these trades sit on message boards just like this. I say that with no hint of arrogance. And I'm not referring to myself per se. But fans who follow hockey closely around the league are the best sources for trade evaluations.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Poker: Doesn't it raise more of a flag that Green is concussed? I would assume this move plugs Wideman in as a Green replacement and Erskine would remain in and Sloan is back out.

Posted by: fanohock1 | February 28, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

We're currently over the cap right now so we HAVE to make another move (or 2). :)

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a great pickup at no cost. I'm guessing better than Corvo. Wideman was one of those over priced d-men in last year's feeding frenzy. I'm guessing Poti goes LTIR.

Who knows what's happening with Green?

Biggest gap now is with goalies; I'm betting we pick one up.

I prefer GMGM trade very little - it's not his metier and he uses his picks much better drafting.

Hemsky probably over-priced because of other teams' interest.

If Sturm is even halfway decent, that pickup allows BB to play Semin with 19 and 8 and gives us a credible 2nd line that can score...

Posted by: RedLitYogi | February 28, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

If Stecks is traded, I will be disappointed. I know we need a 2C and probably an Top-4 or Top-2 D-man.

But given the defensive emphasis of the club this season, isn't puck possession the best way to limit goals-against?

And isn't winning face-offs crucial to obtaining puck possession?

As for Sasha Minor, I will be sad to see him go, and I maintain my position that his departure could very well bite us in the collective @$$ in many ways.

All I have to say is: if Steckel and Semin are indeed soon to be gone, GMGM damn well better have received immediate value in return (as in someone HUGE)--not just picks and prospects.

Though I want with all my heart for the Caps to win the Cup, I can take it if we don't. I can even take it if we miss the playoffs. But I don't think I can take another Fire Sale.

Posted by: Rhino40 | February 28, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Prepare yourselves for about twenty paragraphs of explosive diarrhea from tmac2yao.

Posted by: tw46 | February 28, 2011 12:17 PM


ROTGDFLMMFAO

Posted by: Rhino40 | February 28, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

On second thought not such a bad move as we need another point at the PP. Also, if it means I don't have to see Poti in a red sweater again, I like it. Now if we can just trade Shultz for a cardboard cutout of Scott Stevens my day will be made.

Posted by: rskinsfan | February 28, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the team can ice two complete PP units now....alternating Green, Carlson and Wideman on the points so two are always out there. Then move Ovechkin up to the corners for morer cycle plays. Kinda sick of seeing Ovechkin bobble puck at blue line - slip and fall and chase a guy on a breakaway.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 28, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Flaws
* Doesn't play the body nearly enough (he'll fit in, right? :D), and struggles in defensive-zone coverage. Will cough up the puck at the wrong time. Lacks consistency.

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that is how Wideman plays some of the time. For sure.

And then other times he'll battle hard along the boards with a forward.

He's inconsistent. And I think its because his body type won't allow him to really consistently commit to a better defensive game. I don't consider him to be a pvssy though. He's a shade better than Corvo but definitely a guy who needs a strong defensive partner. Not just a positionally strong player either. He needs a partner who can be more of a wrecking ball on defense.

I'm not convinced that Hannan is that guy. It may have to be Erskine.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

@ underpants, you got me at hello on the Poti extension -- I never got that one. Too many wimpy blueliners on this team already, and extending the king of wimpy blueliners with a glass grion. Yeah he took a shot in the face for the team, but so did Belanger, whom the Caps needed a lot more than Poti. That one is an albatross wrapped around gmgm's neck

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS2 | February 28, 2011 9:50 AM

@JIMALLCAPS2: Agree with you in one respect: Poti isn't much use to use being out with injury all the time. And in light of this the extension was not a good move. The again, hindsight is always 20/20.

That said, could you please explain to me what a "grion" is?

Posted by: Rhino40 | February 28, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm not bagging on him. Just that his situation with Boston isn't the same as he'll have with the Caps.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:22 PM

i don't know who his D partner was in fla, but could it be expected that he performs better as a cap than as a panther?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 28, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

given his play this year, i think it is funny that Erskine gets so little respect from folks.

Posted by: doughless | February 28, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Prepare yourselves for about twenty paragraphs of explosive diarrhea from tmac2yao.

Posted by: tw46

something has to combat the 20 paragraphs of McPhee is a genius messages after every trade he makes. Where are those fans when those same moves don't pan out? hmm

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

@poker, we are over the Cap unless we put Poti on LTIR which seems likly, also we could send down King/Sloan ect to help as well.

I still think a D is going to be traded simply because we have 7 on one way contracts next year already with Alzner still to be resigned.

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 28, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I love Erskine!

He's a guy I'd love to split a case of beer with.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | February 28, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I think the Wideman trade will prove to be a decent move. Let's reserve judgement until we see how the post-deadline Caps perform over the next week or two.

Posted by: Rhino40 | February 28, 2011 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Though I want with all my heart for the Caps to win the Cup, I can take it if we don't. I can even take it if we miss the playoffs. But I don't think I can take another Fire Sale.


Posted by: Rhino40

he'll never do another firesale. He has too much ego for that.
He'll run this team into the ground to save face. Which means he'll continue to be a buyer even in certain years that it doesn't make sense.

I don't think we need a firesale. But there's about 5 players we should move off our roster. That doesn't equate to a firesale but it does equate to making this team stronger in the years to come.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: robostop10 | February 28, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

@Rhino40

No need for hindsight on the Poti extension. Pretty much everybody across the board hated it the second it was announced. The only one who thought it was a good idea was McPhee.

Posted by: underpants2 | February 28, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

new thread

Posted by: icehammer97 | February 28, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Coach "Bruce [Boudreau] was shuffling guys in and out," winger Mike Knuble said the other day. "It got a little awkward, even for pro hockey, guys used to be on the edge and things changing quickly. You've been here with the team and settled into your role, then all of sudden there are a bunch of bodies around. Guys were playing well but still [sitting] out, and that was frustrating."

GMGM making moves when moves not needed and standing pat when change is required.


Posted by: Bricucci1 | February 28, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

given his play this year, i think it is funny that Erskine gets so little respect from folks.

Posted by: doughless | February 28, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

When Erskine has played healthy in the playoffs he made a difference. In that Penguins series 2 years ago he was physical and helped. That size will matter in the playoffs again.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | February 28, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I love Erskine!

He's a guy I'd love to split a case of beer with.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | February 28, 2011 12:38 PM

Hey, I'd only take 11 and let him have 13!

poker: Poti and Fehr LTIR fixes the cap. Both are eligible starting the day Sturm first hit the cap. The day Fehr comes back, depending on when that is, something will have to be done.

I'm assuming one or the other was LTIR'd starting Saturday so were not over, on a daily basis, the minute we acquired Sturm.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | February 28, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Shultz was + 55 last year. That should tell people all they need to know about the +/- stat in hockey.

Posted by: capsfansince74

so the same fans who once pointed to sarge's stats as evidence of how good he was are now using that stat in a different way to support a different argument.

how disingenuous.

Posted by: cstanton1
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Um I really wish you'd get your facts straight before you start throwin me under the bus. I have NEVER used +/- to say 55 was good. I think he's terrible. You just throw out critisisms aimlessly don't you?

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 28, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

i don't know who his D partner was in fla, but could it be expected that he performs better as a cap than as a panther?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ


Put it this way. When Wideman was paired with anyone but Chara in Boston, he was awful.

In Fla, he played a lot with McCabe, some with Bryan Allen. Once Keaton Ellerby got recalled and showed just how good he was, Wideman became more expendable.

So it depends on how you view McCabe and Allen. I view Bryan Allen as better than any Washington dman defensively. I view McCabe as more on par with most of our D.

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 28, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

@ Rhino
You might deserve an award for acronym use for that sentence long one a few posts back...Too funny!!

Posted by: DBnMD | February 28, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

As each year's trade deadline occurs and teams enter the final stretch of the season, knowing who else to root for (so as to further the objectives of one's favorite team, even when they're not playing) can be confusing.

Hence, years ago I used to send out a daily email blast throughout the season to my with my "Rooting Instructions" for fellow Caps fans--with team crests and everything. It was all in fun, and my criteria for whom to root for were thus:

1) Support Your Local Gunfighters: Always, always, ALWAYS root for the Caps to win. No exceptions.
2) The Enemy Of My Enemy...: Always root for whomever is playing against the Pengiuns. The only exception is in those rare situations where a Penguin victory would benefit the Caps' position in the standings.
3) Go West, Young Fan: If a game is between a Western Conference team and an Eastern Conference team other than the Caps, root for the Western team to win. If both are from the West, root for the one with fewer standings points unless the other team is a personal favorite.
4) Go, Canada!: If one of the teams playing is from Canada, root for them to win...unless that team is the Habs. Never root for the Habs to win unless the're playing against the Penguins or another team from our division. If both teams are from Canada, root for the one tha't not the Habs..beyond that, you're on your own when it comes to the Great White North.
5) Never Date Within The Division: If if the game involves the 'Canes, Lightning, Panthers, or Thrashers, root for their opponent (except where it conflicts with the other rules). If both teams are from the Southeast and neither is the Caps, root for the team that has fewer standings points.
6) A Rival And An Enemy Are Two Different Things/The Lesser Of Two Weevils: Also root for whomever is playing against the Rangers, Bruins, or Flyers--except where this conflicts with other rules. If they are playing one another, root for the team with fewer standings points.

So without further ado, Caps fans: I give you your rooting "instructions" for the Monday, February 28, 2011

CHI (72 pts). @ MIN (72 pts) : Four teams in the West have 72 points, with Minnesota and Chicago currently seeded 7 & 8 entering tonight's action. Should be a good scrap. Go Wild
DET (82) @ LAK (74) : Gotta go with the Kings on this one.

Posted by: Rhino40 | February 28, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Trade #2 has to be a for a center.

Having Laich there in the last game was strictly a short-term solution.

I like the fact Wideman is only 27 and has another year left on his contract so the Caps are not merely giving up picks/prospects for a 3-4 month rental.

The worst thing the organization did was to resign Poti for an additional 2 years.

Why? There was no reason to make this move in-season.

At 33 you wanted Poti to show the team that he could remain healthy and productive over an entire season before you extended his contract.

Now, you have a guy like Nylander that doesn't really fit this system and is starting to break down due to age and injury.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | February 28, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The Whiners have gone over the edge. McPhee basically got two decent, playoff-tested players for NOTHING and he's an idiot? You people are crazy.

Here's some analysis from the Hockey News on the Wideman trade: "As for Wideman to the Caps - smart move George McPhee. Mike Green's health or not, another like-minded defenseman won't hurt."

Yes, we need more...we need a strong 2nd line center who will go the crease and stay there. You can complain about that. But the moves McPhee made yesterday and today were good ones. So stop with the negative c--p!

Posted by: StevefromSacto | February 28, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

a defenseman w/ a -26? yeesh!

Posted by: DCPowerGator | February 28, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

So, basically, this guy is Phil Housely? I don't mean at his prime, I mean when he was here.

Posted by: kingrob76 | February 28, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

our GM is an idiot. I was hoping that I am wrong, but this moves just made me speechless. I couldn't believe when I saw his +/- ranking

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I'm speechless as well. I can't believe GMGM isn't savvy enough to make trades based on stats instead of actual scouting the players.

Posted by: ouvan59 | February 28, 2011 1:22 PM | Report abuse

On paper it looks like we got a lot more than we gave up. But what's the scoop on Jake Hauswirth?

Posted by: rjma1 | February 28, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Phil Housley was about 10 years older than Wideman when he was here. He was in the twilight of his career. Wideman is in his prime.

But geez, Whiners, don't let the facts confuse you.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | February 28, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Not bad for what it is. But I'm not excited about it. But we didn't give up anything, so worth a shot. As several have pointed out, we need a left D, not another righty. For D, I would have preferred Liles from Colo., even if it meant giving up somebody.
Does anybody else cringe at the mention that's out there that, while Kuznetsov is not available, Eakin might be? Great! Keep the Semins, and let the character guys go. Way to go, George.
And echoing others: I didn't know Wideman plays C. But then, do we really expect better out of 'stand-pat-afraid-to-break-up-this-mediocre-collection' GMGM??? The thing that bothers me most about the Wideman trade is that GM probably thinks he's pulled off a heist, and is done.

Posted by: wotansdad | February 28, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

re:pokerface1208

TSN stated earlier they expect Green out two weeks. Considering he's had his bell rung twice in less than a month bet 3-4 weeks.

This guy has better offensive numbers than any of our other d-men, but I don't know what he brings defensively.

Posted by: jimc93 | February 28, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully this means Ovie moves off the point on the pp.

Posted by: milfordone | February 28, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

3:00 has come and gone, and it seems that McPhee doesn't have the b---- to pull the trigger on a real difference-making move. Big surprise, eh? I guess he is satisfied with the c--- we've been seeing for 3 months (BTW his comment in Vogel's blog that he "likes the way we're playing" was AFTER the Ranger fiasco). Isn't it crystal clear that he thinks much more of our talent than do the other GMs??? I'm tired of his self-serving over-valuation of the players he has hand-picked.

Did the lack of activity today help me make my decision on renewing? Oh, yeah. Raise your hand if you REALLY think this team has the makings of an elite team -- even if you count the so-called prospects. Who is still drinking the koolaid???

And, good grief, how deep up McPhee's a-- is Vogel's tongue??? Does MV have ANY credibility, or is he just a cheerleader?

Posted by: wotansdad | February 28, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

3:08 pm -- TSN's Bob McKenzie is reporting Jason Arnott has waived his no-trade clause to go to the Washington Capitals for David Steckel.

Posted by: Ronny22 | February 28, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

You can barely score 3 goals a game and you go out and get more defensive players.... nice!!!!! It is why I am not a GM.

Posted by: rvanags | February 28, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

3:08 pm -- TSN's Bob McKenzie is reporting Jason Arnott has waived his no-trade clause to go to the Washington Capitals for David Steckel.

Posted by: Ronny22 | February 28, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I heard the same thing!

Posted by: DCSportsfanatic1 | February 28, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

TSN and ESPN are both confirming the Arnott deal.... Way to stay on top of things WaPo.

Posted by: brian1va1 | February 28, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

This may be old news but Bob McKenzie is reporting the Caps trade Steckel for Arnott. Discuss

Posted by: BoudreauDaPumpkinHead | February 28, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

TSN and ESPN are both confirming the Arnott deal.... Way to stay on top of things WaPo.

Posted by: brian1va1 | February 28, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

well, I'd feel better about things if this is true (and Stecks would fit perfectly in NJ)

Posted by: wotansdad | February 28, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Confirmed. Arnott to Caps for Stecks.

Think this makes sense for the caps. Arnott will help Semin out in my opinion to open things up for him a bit. Aslo he will be that guy that can go to the net on the Semin line since we all know Semin wants no part of that. It will hurt losing Stecks being a solid PK man and faceoff guy but looking at the caps needs this makes the most sense for them. What has been the one thing the caps have lacked in pervious years, GRIT. This guy brings a winning attitude (had a GWG to win the stanley cup) as well as a size that isnt afraid to go and do the dirty work. NICE MOVE GMGM. I think this is the best deadline he has had in a while. Got a lot for giving up very little.

GO CAPS.

Posted by: caps0819 | February 28, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Arnott plus Wideman plus Sturm for, basically, David Steckel! And you Whiners still think McPhee is an idiot? Great moves.

Posted by: StevefromSacto | February 28, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame just the WaPO. NHL.com doesn't have it yet, either.

Posted by: wotansdad | February 28, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

StevefromSacto "Arnott plus Wideman plus Sturm for, basically, David Steckel! And you Whiners still think McPhee is an idiot? Great moves."

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Great point. Everyone whines every year, no matter what GMGM does. I think he hit it right this year. Are Sturm and Arnott out of their "prime" maybe, but caps have plenty of scorers on the team. They dont need that, they need character guys who know how to get it done in the playoffs.. The goals will come they are down due to the new style. How many games have caps peppers goalies and got 1 goal. They bounces will come. They are more prepared for teh playoffs this year and adding these Vets will definately help ease some stress these yongers guys put on themselves.

Posted by: caps0819 | February 28, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Not that these moves won't help, but...
I keep hearing, "The Caps have plenty of scorers." REALLY. Where have they been the last 3 months? That's a heckuva slump. Not ALL of that can be attributed to learning the new style (and let's not even debate whether they should have tried the new style and whether D was the problem last year). Isn't a lot of what we are seeing the failure to adjust to what other teams are doing (Ovie's attempt to toe-drag every single rush being only one example). Other than AO, and maybe Semin when he cares, and Green if he ever gets healthy again, who are all these scorers? Nick? invisible ever since signing the contract, and now with a broken hand. Laich? Incredibly inconsistent. Knuble? Old and close to done? MoJo? maybe, in a year or two Who else??? I'm glad you all are so sure we're all of a sudden going to start scoring in the POs. But where is the logic in that argument? We say we are going to play a more defensive style so that we're ready for that when the playoffs come, and then we excuse a 3-month lack of O by saying the scoring will come in the playoffs. That makes no sense.

Posted by: wotansdad | February 28, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

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