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Caps complete historic collapse

There's going to be plenty of time in the coming days to dissect each minute detail about what happened tonight, and in this series, and what the future holds for this team. But being that it's almost 1 a.m., I'm going to get started on that in the morning.

For now, check out my updated game story here (it's got some reaction to the no goal), Mike Wise's column here, Tracee Hamilton's column here, Dan Steinberg's Bog post on the fans' reaction to the devastating defeat, Zach Berman on the fans, and Gene Wang's notes here.

Alex Ovechkin and his teammates aren't scheduled to meet with the media until 10 a.m. on Friday. I suspect there will plenty to blog about between tomorrow and then.

In the meantime, consider this your open thread to vent.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  April 29, 2010; 12:45 AM ET
 
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meh

Posted by: RITdude | April 29, 2010 1:08 AM | Report abuse

i wonder if you consider this "rock bottom"?

will changes be made? will the changes if any make a difference if the same people are making those changes?

Posted by: natresgroup | April 29, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

yes, this is "rock bottom" because just when you thought the bad days are behind this organaization, they go out and make history in the worst way possible.

I defended their style and system as much as anyone on here everyday against the likes of cstanton1 but their 3-year experiment is OVER now. it's time for them to make some serious changes and get back to more traditional style of hockey if this team is ever gonna have success in the playoffs.

Posted by: joek443 | April 29, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Good work organization on building perennial AHL champions and NHL floppers. How about some of that youth that is talked about non-stop gets a permanent chance next year.

Although in all likelihood it will be Jurcina, ShaMo, Erskine all in the lineup while guys like Alzner are prevented from developing for yet another year.

Posted by: Aldred15 | April 29, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

RJ Umberger must be loving life right now. He was bang on with his comment, and it wasn't more obvious than the past couple games.

The team will never, ever win when they dedicate over 10 million dollars to two players who fail to show up in the playoffs, and have 4.5 million more sitting on the bench for the final 5 games.

Posted by: Aldred15 | April 29, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

I vented enough tonight.

Here's hoping some major overhauls happen. Whether that be in management, coaching, or personnel.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

no excuse for a C H O K E like that.
18 yrs since this town has had a championship and counting.....

Posted by: koscold | April 29, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

This team was WOEFULLY unprepared mentally to make a run for the CUP. Here are the key issues:

1. Myopic management unwilling to demonstrate any cajones when it comes to filling major gaps with top talent (aka the JAGR syndrome)

2. No locker room prep. Team panics as soon as their initial plan is blown and cant make any adjustments. Chemistry is TOO friendly and feel good. Too family. This is a business folks. Sometimes it's not chummy. You want chummy, go to Sunday Mass. Feel better. Complete coaching failure.

3. Players "trying" hard doesnt cut it. Heck, that didn't cut it on my little league team and we were 12 years old. And we didnt get paid millions to fail.

4. Stop talking all the CUP bogus PR. No more videos and crap. Get liek the Red Wings and go play hockey. Talk on the ice. Throw octopus meat on the floor. But stop blowing up expectations.

5. Ownership: You better do something. You can sit on your trophys, MVP's, etc for maybe 6 months. Fans feel good and dont care. Fans like Cups. They're cool people when the team sucks and trying counts....they're unforgiving when expectations are manipulated and ticket prices are increased in the worst economic downturn since 1933. That takes balls. That takes winning.

6. Caps fans: we're used to this, right?? Different team, next chapter. Stay true. Hope this isnt a hobby for management and they actually try to listen to the armchair fans that they commonly disdain as "old fashioned"

Old fashioned hockey seems alive and well in the rest of the League.

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

The first change this offseason should be for Ted to fire George McPhee and bring in a new general manager.

Our GM has not been able to build a balanced, playoff-caliber hockey team and he's had more than enough time at this point.

The playoffs really are a different animal than the regular season.

Games get tighter and the work ethic and character of your players come to the forefront.

Coaching is an important factor but it's secondary to having both talent and the right mix of players in terms of both skill and character.

These aren't little kids learning the game. Coaching is important but by the time that a player reaches this level, he is largely already developed in terms of natural ability and character.

It's similar to the process of education a kid. It's crucial for the kid to be taught well during his developmental years but once he becomes an adult, he has formed his core values and skills and any further development at that point is largely in his own hands.

That's why it's important for a general manager to go get the right players, whether it's through the draft or free agency. Nothing has a greater impact on the success of a team than the players that the manager is able to put on the ice.

Teams usually need to land a franchise player or two with some top picks but there is nothing difficult about picking a
Crosby or an Ovechkin.

It's how a GM picks later in the draft and how he makes moves in free agency to build a balanced team (offensively and defensively... speed and grit... veterans and youth... strong character, etc...) that separates him from other GMs.

We went through a long rebuilding process.

We've had 3 top 5 picks.

We've had tons of 1st round picks.

We've had plenty of free agencies and offseasons to address needs.

We are far enough into this rebuilding process that a 1st round exit has to fall squarely on the shoulders of the GM for failing to build a playoff-caliber hockey team.

It's your move, Ted.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 1:21 AM | Report abuse

I'm 31. This has happened too many times in my lifetime. Ow, ow, ow.
Just think. 11.25 million is going to Semin and Green next year. That averages out to about 3 million dollars per playoff point. Not too shabby!!
God, this is depressing.

Posted by: pivo20 | April 29, 2010 1:27 AM | Report abuse

I'd give GMGM one more shot..see what he does this off-season. If changes aren't made, he has to go.

Mike Weaver, Volchenkov, Hamhuis, Kubina...these are the guys he should be targeting.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Tmac2yao.....

God Bless!!!!! Right on mate. Given my druthers....in all seriousness....id can BB and GMGM. But I dont know how you do both at once....

HOWEVER....

Montreal fired their coach AND had their GM resign this season and they seem ok. So...i"m more about right talent. Definitely, GMGM has had enough time and he's stuck (see my previous comments). Secondly, BB is not the coach to take this team to the next level. Herb Brooks is a national hero. what most people don't know is aside from Lake Placid-- the hero had a mixed record. He's a hero because he took what he was given and won when it counted and was needed.

Our team took quality and squandered it.

We get videos of players driving around town in their Mercedes and sports cars. GREAT. I get inspired by 21 year olds in a Ferrari.

Look, I'm a complete free market guy....you have the money, buy what you want. But don't sell me a team on gimmicks. Not serious and it showed....

I've attended games in Pittsburgh, Detroit and Buffalo...none of those dumb gimmiks

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 1:28 AM | Report abuse

They are what they have always has been. Choking Dogs. And Ovie, until you can lead a team to a championship, don't even dare stand in Crosby's shadow. You failed as a leader and that C in your jersey looks undeserved at the moment. If great men rise to the occassion, that must mean that the Caps have no great men.

Posted by: Almazar80 | April 29, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Squirrel, we already went over this BB/GMGM thing last thread.

Tmac and I have concluded that, at least in our opinions, most of this blame falls on the personnel and GMGM. That's not excusing BB for not adjusting, or for any of his other flaws, however I feel that BB is not the problem right now. Or at least, the least of the problems.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Yes, the refs definitely blew that call and an apology is undoubtedly coming from the NHL office in the coming days. However, this team just isn't built to win in the postseason right now. Most of the pieces are there and the talent is obvious but a second line center and a stay at home defensemen or two are absolute musts for this team to take the next step. I think the offseason begins by trading Mike Green while he has value. He just makes too many mistakes to justify keeping him around for his offensive production. IMO, Carlson can fill that role. Finally, Ovechkin isn't the problem and only a complete imbecile would think so. Show me one....just one....team in the NHL that thinks they couldn't win a Cup with Ovechkin, to include the Pens. See how fast Sid and Alex could become friends if they were teammates. Ovechkin bashing is brain dead and a thorough overeaction to the evenings events.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 29, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Carlson was just as responsible for Moore's goal as Green was.

Lazy back checking by him..but he's a rookie, so he gets a free pass.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Richmondphil,

God how my friends and I debated that one earlier! I dont disagree with you. Like I said, ideally, BOTH would go.


My reasons.

GMGM is far too myopic, afraid of another JAGR, too smart for the fans by half and obviously like a derr in headlights when it comes to recognizing that you cant just draft good minor league players...you need mature players, and sometimes you need to gut check and trade young talent to fill gaps. This happy family thing MUST GO.

As for BB...I hear you. But honestly....this guy was completely outsmarted by Blysma last year and Martin this year. Adjustments are not obvious. He cant get players ready mentally. his players literally PANIC. As my buddy said tonight watching the ice..."they don't know what to do..." And that's leadership.

How many times do you watch the Wings and not feel...at age gazillion...lol...that they're gonna pull it out? Ok, they failed in the Stanley Cup finals last year....but I'd take that effort right now.

Let's be honest. We need both replaced and you're being rational and fair in trying to pick the bigger bad guy.

Honest now? :-P

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Senator Harry Reid, this is Bruce...Bruce Boudreau...you know, we live in the same city...I am calling to see if it is possible to be fired when you are at the pinnacle of your profession...what's that you say? You actually have to be successful when it matters? You are saying meaningless sucess does not ensure that you keep your job?!? Hmmmm...I sure hope Ted is more forgiving than the American public.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | April 29, 2010 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Squirrel, we already went over this BB/GMGM thing last thread.

Tmac and I have concluded that, at least in our opinions, most of this blame falls on the personnel and GMGM. That's not excusing BB for not adjusting, or for any of his other flaws, however I feel that BB is not the problem right now. Or at least, the least of the problems.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:31 AM

As I posted in the previous thread, most of the guys on this team are BBs guys. Belanger and Corvo are here because they played for BB before. Half the roster played with BB in Hershey. Do you really think GMGM woke up the morning of the trade deadline and said he wanted to trade Brian Pothier for a Mike Green lite coming off a serious injury?

Blame GMGM for not hiring a defensive minded coach, but he gave BB the roster he wanted. The execution of the system is totally on BB.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Carlson also played well for the majority of the series. Green....well he....played at least just not well and especially not smart. That is my chief complaint about Green. Lazy yes.....even more stupid on the ice.....OMG yes.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 29, 2010 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Until Ovechkin leads this team to the Cup, he's just another wannabe. Crosby is younger, has been to two cup finals, won one and likely will win another this year. He scored the game winning goal to get the Olympic gold medal? And Ovie? Party hardy then get checked pretty easily. Did not see any burst in the man the last three games (or for most of the series). Yeah he scored, but where is the team now? Leaders are suppose to lead. Until he does, there is no doubt who the greates hockey player in the world is. And he's not Russian.

Posted by: Almazar80 | April 29, 2010 1:44 AM | Report abuse

I just don't think BB should go yet. He has proven himself to be a very smart coach at times. It just hasn't come into fruition in the playoffs, for one reason or another.

I think management has to change it's philosophy before we do anything else though. When Joe freakin Corvo was the "best target" GMGM said he wanted this deadline, it's either a bold lie or shows why he truly needs to go.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:44 AM | Report abuse

RJ was right, and the proof was in the pudding, as they say. But this group of athletes, coaches and management went around and acted like their s**t don't stink and basically trashed the dude. He was 100% spot on in his analysis. Maybe the caps would like to join RJ for a round on the golf course tomorrow. I'd take Umburger on this team anyday.

Squirrel, to add to you your list, and in no particular order:

-Everyone, from Ted and OV to the guy that's turns out the lights, needs to stop acting like they've won something. The arrogance needs to be turned down a notch. I've said it before, the faux hawks, the autobiographies and the custom plates don't win championships. Sound defense, good goaltending and solid work ethic do (read: show up at the optional skate when you're the captain, and do it often, especially the day before the biggest game of your life.)

-Either get rid of green, or tie him down and keep him out of the bars. Help him get his head straight.

-Semin and Flash. I've seen enough playoff bed sh*tting from both of them. Get us some hard hitting stay at home defensemen, and some grit up fronth. When the paychecks stop, so do they. Both of them are soft soft soft.

-As far as OV, ditch the custom plates, ditch the 'GR8' on your gloves and any other place it appears on your equipment. No one cares if you're regular season great, it's the spring time that matters. Caps are starting to earn the label 'best in the fall', and you were just part of one of the top 3 playoff collapses of ALL TIME. Absolute disgrace. Maybe come back to DC in June and start working on next year. Set an example, send a message, that what just happened was completely unacceptable.

-Torn on BB, I think he was coached out of his shorts, but he seems to get them to play out of there minds during the season. There must be some way to translate that to the playoffs. Would love to get Hunter back here. 45 blocked shots? Give me a break. Either install a system (like Laviolette did in Philly) and learn to make in game adjustments, or get out of town. An NHL coach should not be standing on the bench covering your eyes like a little kid watching his first scary movie. Disgrace.

Posted by: Fletch22 | April 29, 2010 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Folks,

Fire GMGM and BB. It IS the answer.

The team is a good starting point to build from. This is a business...not a family drama. These people failed. MOVE ON.

This team has a solid corps new GM's and coaches would rally to. And an owner to like. I mean...IF DANIEL SNYDER CAN GET BRUCE ALLEN AND MIKE SHANAHAN....good LORD....we can get anyone!!!!!!!

But the Caps need a fresh breath...

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Blame GMGM for not hiring a defensive minded coach, but he gave BB the roster he wanted. The execution of the system is totally on BB.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 1:42 AM |

I never said I wanted a defensive minded coach.

And no..the execution of the system is on the players.


Again, BB has a lot of blame to shoulder here, but it's not the issue.

Until a positive change is made in management, it doesn't matter.

And again, coaching staffs for teams obviously give their input to management, but there is a reason the two are kept separate from each other. GMGM doesn't run his ideas by BB first, nor does he base his decisions on BB's input.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:49 AM | Report abuse

And oh yeah. Epect Ovie and the rest of the Caps to be slammed for a good long while. This was a disaster. The best team defintely won. The Caps were lucky they did not go down in five. These guys are paid a lot of money. They strut their stuff all over town. In the end, they produced nothing. Why should people not be mad?

Posted by: Almazar80 | April 29, 2010 1:49 AM | Report abuse

@squirrel1991

You are absolutely correct. This team has major problems that can not be solved by a 2d line center or a stay-at-home defenseman. I said after before game 1, after game 5, and I say again--what serious Caps fan would not have felt more confident with John Tortorella coaching than BB in the playoffs? If it is a Mercedes commercial or a November game vs the Thrashers, BB is your man. In April, I will take anyone else.

Posted by: nomarjax01 | April 29, 2010 1:50 AM | Report abuse

Everyone, from Ted and OV to the guy that's turns out the lights, needs to stop acting like they've won something. The arrogance needs to be turned down a notch.

_____________________

It actually starts with the fan base, considering everyone here was already saying Caps over Bruins and/or Flyers in 5 or 6 or something like that.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Fletch22...

Brilliant analysis. Were you drinking with me earlier?? Should have been! haha

Agreed on all points. I especially feel this team is arrogant. In many ways, the management is MORE condescending than the Redskins. At least the Redskins are rather shamed by their image. This team prances about like a "happy family culture" and fails to realize we all wish they'd be a business. And focus on winning. "Happiness". It's winning. According to Ted's book, he stumbled into his missions in his 20's....that's buy a lot of happiness. But it ain't buying a Cup so far.

You know what...people might say it's harsh, but screw them! Sports teams have a limited window to "capitalize" on talent, and this team blows theirs with each year.

Lifetime fan. Not impressed.

The old school Caps who did more with less were more impressive...

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Congrats on being the most disappointing team in the history of the NHL!!! Hope the champagne tastes good out of the Presidents Trophy... BUMS! This team sucks! Blow it up, Fire everyone, and trade all of these heartless b***hes! F the Caps!!! Surprise... another let down, never saw that coming. Ha. What a joke. Should I keep going cause I can. This is the WORST TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF THE NHL. Hahahaha BUMS!!! Can't wait to see a winner (the penguins) sweep the Habs out of the playoffs and march to their second cup in two years. Ovechkin is not the great 8... he stinks. Semin and Green? The only hope is those guys got run over by a bus on their way home from VC. Speaking of VC.... I was there and it is the worst crowd i've ever seen for a game seven. Enjoy those rally towels that NO ONE WAVED!!!! Terrible crowd!!! Terrible Team. There will never be another champion in DC because as soon as any team gets good around here real fans get priced out and idiotic morons show up to the games. This is hands down THE worst sports city in America. And to all you season ticket holders that sold you tickets... get bent. I saw 15 Habs fans at the game and everyone of them was a bigger fan of their team then anyone in DC. I'm done.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Nomarjax01....

Good stuff. Oddly enuff, John T is the man I said I wanted tonight over post game beers....he's proven to be the guy that can take talent in house and win with it. He doesnt need to build it, mature it, etc. This isnt a fine wine (Well. it's a fine WHINE, but that's different...)

We need a strict, mind games coach. these guys are too comfortable. Well paid. Russia House. Late nights. No rules.

Money aint free. You want millions. Act like it and earn it.


Hopefully management wakes up

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 1:59 AM | Report abuse

@Tmac, and all others in agreement...

MCPHEE SHOULD GET CANNED.

-He took over a roster that went to the cup in 98. What have his teams accomplished since then? 6 first round exits!!!! The only trip into the second round was last year!!

-The trade deadline moves still don't make any sense. I don't understand why we had to add so many players. Perhaps he wanted to give BB (who constantly changes line combos as) even more decisions and lineup combos to mess around with.

This team was built to win scoring titles and Presidents Trophies. But as we all are now aware playoff hockey is about grit and defense.

Posted by: chrisclarksucks | April 29, 2010 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Fairweather Caps fan, just move on to the Redskins blog please...


And save me your been here since 74 rant, because I and others have been here too.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:03 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

I know that it's easy to overreact right now (I've been doing it all series long) but I really can't see how McPhee deserves another chance?

He's about 6 years into the rebuilding process and has had tons of first round draft picks and free agency periods to address needs.

Just about all of our players were reportedly healthy and we got bounced in the first round.

We've barely eeked out one series win in the Ovechkin era.

Whether it's the fault of the players or the coaches or both, the man most repsonsible for bringing all of those people together is McPhee. This is his creation.

I can't help but think that he's had more than his share of time and resources to accomplish more than a single series win.

This wasn't 1 game. It was a 7-game series and the fact of the matter is that McPhee's collection of coaches and players couldn't get it done.

I suppose that the first question is what other GMs are available to replace McPhee if Ted is to even consider going down that road?

You don't make a change like that just for the sake of change. There has to be a clearly better option for a team at this stage in its development.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully all of the Caps took a bus back to Kettler together and it ran off the road and blew up!!! These guys will never win!!! They are dead to me and DC will NEVER have another champion! Can't wait for three months of redskin speculation. Thanks again Caps.... I am no longer a fan at least until they suck again and they aren't a fad and I expect them to suck. Worst game i've ever seen

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:04 AM | Report abuse

And with that, I'm going to bed.

Another heart-breaking end to another season.

Probably the worst ending I've ever had as a Caps fan, in regards to expectations. But I guess I learned my lesson...it's the Caps we're talking about..they'll find a way to choke....

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Fire BB. Fire GMGM. And trade Semin, OV, and Green for someone who can show up and win like Crosby.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:07 AM | Report abuse

@tmac
I thought I very clearly stated that he should be given another chance this off-season only.

If he does not target and appreciate defensive ability, then he has to go.

If Regehr is traded from the Flames, and we find out GMGM didn't go after him, he has to go.

If all these good defensive d-man UFAs go without GMGM going after then, he has to go.


If this isn't a wake up call, then I don't know what is.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:08 AM | Report abuse

i've liked every player on the team this year (but never really got attached to any of the trade deadline guys though).

i think these caps should be shopped:
green - imo, his assest/liability ratio is not high enough to keep him off the shop list.
semin - i love semin's skills and defended him many times - but 6m is too much to pay for 60-70 games a year (and maybe not get his best effort every game)
poti - at 3.5m i think there are others out there that can do the same for less
nyls - he is still on the books

i'd like them to keep (resign):
backstrom - no brainer
fehr - if you triple his salary (.772 to 2.1m) and double his minutes - he'll be one of the biggest bargains on the team
gordon - **
steckel - **
laing - **
s morrisonn - he could price himself out of washington
jurcina - i just like him for some reason
schultz - someone please teach him to hit (at least a little)
neuvirth - could be #1 by november
** you gotta have serviceable (affordable) role players

let these guys walk:
b morrison
flash - will want way too much when there are bigger holes to fill
walker
belanger
corvo
theo (i'd like to keep him but not at 4.5m)

under contract to keep:
ovi
knuble
laich
chimera
bradley
steckel
erskine
sloan
carlson
alzner
varlamov

i've been disappointed by the caps many times over the years. but this was by far the biggest letdown.

the caps need to be much more physical (not enforcer physical) if they want to really contend for the cup.
i thought their talent would carry them much further into the postseason - but now i have to question the commitment (heart) of the team and team concept.
i hope Ted, GMGM and BB re-evaluate the approach that has been taken to build a cup worthy contender.
i don't think they need major changes but they do need some playoff leadership and physical grittiness

is it october yet?

p.s. - on d-bags: cheef > all pen trolls + StanleyCup1907

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 29, 2010 2:08 AM | Report abuse

Richmondphil,

I dont think any of the people with criticism are "fairweather" If anything, they might care too much. I was "1" in '74, so I'm not claiming that one.

If you're satisfied to start next season with everything intact...that's ok. I think you're WAYYYYYYYYYYY too complacent, but the world revolves with all sorts.

It's ok to expect better. You do have that right. :-) Government hasnt taxed that one yet! ;-)

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 2:08 AM | Report abuse

@ richmondphil

I agree that coaches usually don't have a say in personnel, but I think BB is different. BB had success where GMGM hadn't, so of course BB input carried weight.
BB won a Calder Cup, the Jack Adams and took the Caps to the 2nd round for the first time in 10 years. Why wouldn't GMGM listen to his suggestions?

Over half the roster are BB guys. He's had years to evaluate them and should be able to tell whether they could play his system or not. Why would he vouch for them if he knew they lacked the talent or drive play his system? And why does he defend their play to the press when he is so quick to call out Erskine, Poti, Semin, Ovi, or the goalies?

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

Go F your prententious loser self. You must have been one of those people who looked at me like i was crazy for actually cheering at the game tonight.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

i hope the reward for sitting thru this garbage is less know-it-all fans who think the Caps are better than they really are. And to the end of McPhee and Boudreau. And Semin. But I'll keep Green and Ovi. Trade Semin and Flash for a center and a dman. And pls don't let McPhee choose who those players will be.

hope is not lost, sometimes it just takes something like this before the stupid people in charge figure it out. That would be you Ted. Cut the umbilical cord to GM. Its time to grow up and be a big boy.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 29, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

This is not a shock by any means.
Washington plays in a weak division and racks up goals and points against that weak division. How many teams made the playoffs from the Caps division this year? One. Perhaps if Washington played in the other divisons like they used to (of no fault to their own), then expectations would not be so high.

Posted by: tonydanza | April 29, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Thanks again Caps.... I am no longer a fan at least until they suck again and they aren't a fad and I expect them to suck. Worst game i've ever seen

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:04 AM

Okay, fairweather.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

THE WASHINGTON CAPCHOKERS...HA HA HA HA HA...HE HE HE HE HE HE HE...DC IS CURSED!!!THE WIZARDS,REDSKINS,CAPS,NATIONALS,WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS!!

Posted by: joe12341 | April 29, 2010 2:12 AM | Report abuse

and Ovi after the 1st pd turned into a very one dimensional player. He was just skating around taking shots from any angle, losing the puck in the neutral zone, standing without moving his feet in the def zone. I think thats also coaching. Everyone here gets to freelance. Not a lot of cohesion.

I love that Bruce said he would've bet his house that the Caps would not lose 3 straight. Speaks volumes about his intelligence considering it didn't come as a shock to many lowly fans.

Posted by: cstanton1 | April 29, 2010 2:12 AM | Report abuse

f you're satisfied to start next season with everything intact...that's ok. I think you're WAYYYYYYYYYYY too complacent, but the world revolves with all sorts.


Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 2:08 AM |

Can you even read? What in any of my posts would lead you to beleive I am okay to keep everything intact?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

Go F your prententious loser self. You must have been one of those people who looked at me like i was crazy for actually cheering at the game tonight.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:10 AM |

lol? You clearly called yourself a fairweather fan. What I quoted is the definition of it.

I call you a fairweather fan, and you get upset about it? well, at least you have your football and baseball to watch.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Richmond,

CALM DOWN. You went after critics, and I defended them a bit. I think you're waiting for next season is too late. Teams need to prepare BEFORE a new season, ideally...and the nature of hockey is that other than the draft, FEW trades really occur in the off season compared to some sports. God forbid GMGM makes MORE picks or deals....

And ideally, I'd like a new, mentally tough coach to BEGIN the season because we actually do have talent to make a run at this thing...it's lacking in a few spots, but mostly it's WOEFULLY organized and motivated.

No harm, no foul friend. I'm just a bit less forgiving than you. :-)

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

These are the Players I feel like should be traded:
Ovechkin
Knuble
Backstrom
Semin
Laich
Morrison (BOTH OF THEM)
Fehr
Flash
Belanger
Chimera
Steckel
Walker
Bradley
Gordon
Green
Poti
Schultz
Alzner
Carlson
Corvo
Theo
Varly
BB
GMGM


Trade them ALL for Crosby! He is a winner. All of these guys S U C K!!!!!

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

I agree that coaches usually don't have a say in personnel, but I think BB is different. BB had success where GMGM hadn't, so of course BB input carried weight.
BB won a Calder Cup, the Jack Adams and took the Caps to the 2nd round for the first time in 10 years. Why wouldn't GMGM listen to his suggestions?

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 2:10 AM |

Basically, you just said because there is no precedent for a GM and coach to work so closely together, there for some reason is a precedent for BB and GMGM to work close together?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

There's an astonishing lack of perspective here.

It STINKS that the Caps lost. It hurts, as bad as maybe any loss in franchise history.

But it's a hockey game. They tried to win. They lost this game, and the series, for multiple reasons, some of which there will be (sadly) ample time to address in the off-season. But BB and GMGM aren't inept because of one series. The players don't stink. This was a VERY good hockey team that got beaten by a good hockey team that got GREAT play from Halak and some of the defense.

Some things to be addressed, even as I concede GMGM knows roughly 25,000x more about hockey than I do:

1) They need another defenseman. A Brendan Witt/Mark Tinordi in their primes defenseman. Volchenkov? Hamhuis? I don't know. But a six of Green, Schultz, Poti, Carlson, Alzner, and a FA doesn't sound so bad.

2) They still need a legit #2 center. Morrison, Belanger, Fleischman, Steckel -- some of them have roles on this team. But none of them is an NHL #2 center.

3) The goaltending situation needs some clarification. Two kids? One vet? Is it Theo? Does GMGM make a play for Vokoun or another elite G?

4) Mike Green's performance in the playoffs may be a concern. Three years running now he's worse in the playoffs than in the regular season, but this was the worst by far. Not sure what to do with that. There were the other obvious unclutch Caps too -- 28 and 14 to be sure.

5) Not sure why we didn't crash the net more, why the pp was so bad all of the sudden, or even how Theo got taken out and never put back in. But I'm not the coach, and we have a good one.

Last thought -- this team is really young. The best players on this team are 24 and younger. This matters for two reasons. One, the best years are still ahead for this team, absolutely. Two, maybe they just need a little more team maturity to win, and it will come.

All that said, perspective sucks. Sigh.

Posted by: Konofish | April 29, 2010 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Is it time for me to sign up for a 12 Step Program to recover from Capsaholic Anonymous?

"I am CapsFan1975 and I root for the Washington Capitals"

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 29, 2010 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Hey RichmondPhil... Where were you sitting at the game? Or at all the games this year? On your a** at home?

Caps fan since 88 here and you are the exact reason why they will never win. I hope you die.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Lol @ people treating GMGM like Vinny. Carlson, Alzner, Neuvy, and Varly aren't even close to being fully developed yet. Green is 24 while Schultz is 23 and at worst is a solid D-Man. In a league were players are productive well into their 30's I think it's safe to say that we have a pretty good thing going here.

I won't lie, this loss hurts like hell but the irony of all this is that we're still a young team with a wide window.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | April 29, 2010 2:22 AM | Report abuse

@squirrel

Where the hell did I call out critics? I called out FirePelosi for being a fairweather fan...which he is. He flat out said he was.

If I'm not forgiving enough, you are too defensive. :)

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:22 AM | Report abuse

One day we will play the Sharks in the Stanley Cup Finals.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | April 29, 2010 2:24 AM | Report abuse

Lol @ people treating GMGM like Vinny. Carlson, Alzner, Neuvy, and Varly aren't even close to being fully developed yet. Green is 24 while Schultz is 23 and at worst is a solid D-Man. In a league were players are productive well into their 30's I think it's safe to say that we have a pretty good thing going here.

I won't lie, this loss hurts like hell but the irony of all this is that we're still a young team with a wide window.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | April 29, 2010 2:22 AM | Report abuse

That sucks...

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Konofish,


You (read WE) cant afford this talent in the future years. You have to strike and win at the right moments in sports, friend. Sorry....that's kind and friendly, but naieve.

And don't get on some "you're not a fan" rally. You have no idea how much I care!

BUT...in sports, timing matters. In any sport. You cant look at this team and count on "future years" Even BB said that tonight...THIS team wont be together again.

Like Ted, you seem a "family" "kum'ba'yah" type....and I'm not debbie downer...but this biz or any sport biz just doesnt work that way. I wont bother to make a run on list....

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Basically, you just said because there is no precedent for a GM and coach to work so closely together, there for some reason is a precedent for BB and GMGM to work close together?

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:18 AM

What? I'm saying that as a GM who hasn't won anything, GMGM might more inclined to listen to BB's suggestions because of his seemed successful. I think it's too much of a coincidence that Belanger and Corvo ended up on this team when they weren't needed.

GMGM has made some BAD choices in the past, but not this year. He gave BB the team he wanted.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Hey RichmondPhil... Where were you sitting at the game? Or at all the games this year? On your a** at home?

Caps fan since 88 here and you are the exact reason why they will never win. I hope you die.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:21 AM

I went to about 10 games this year. Way more than last year, and obviously a large drop from my STH days.

As for me being the reason the Caps will never win, that sucks for the Caps.

As for you wanting me to die, would you care to meet up in person and tell me how you'd like me to die? Can't make it to Richmond? That's fine, I'll drive to your house and you can tell me how you want me to die.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:26 AM | Report abuse

GMGM has made some BAD choices in the past, but not this year. He gave BB the team he wanted.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 2:26 AM |

I'm not going to base my opinions about the team in pure speculation.

Here's the bottom line; management and coaching staffs don't work close together for a reason.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:28 AM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ - Good suggestions. Here are mine:

1. Let Theodore go via free agency (easy choice, obviously)

2. Trade Green for picks and to free cap room for UFA

3. Trade Semin for quality center

4. Trade rights to RFA Flash for picks and to free room for UFA deal

5. Look to sign a top flight D-man (perhaps make a run at Hamhuis, Martin or Mitchell)

6. Look for a free agent center if none are available in trade, although the picking are slim.

7. Make effort to sign Backstrom and Fehr to long-term deals.

8. Sign Schultz to two year deal, but no more

9. Give real looks to Perreault, A. Gordon, Giroux, Holtby, Pinizzotto and McNeill.

The lineup on opening night could be:

Forwards

Ovie - Backstrom - Knuble - No need to mess with this line.

(Giroux) - (UFA or Trade) - Fehr - Major upgrades and a chance to see if Fehr can take it to the next level.

(Chimera or Laich) - Perreault - (A. Gordon or UFA)

(B. Gordon or Laich or Chimera) - (Steckel or B. Gordon or Pinizzotto) - Bradley


Defense

Alzner - Carlson

(UFA or Trade) - Schultz

Poti - Erskine


Goalies:

Varlamov - Neuvirth

Posted by: cbl-pdx | April 29, 2010 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Wow! 10 whole games? Did you just sit there and stuff your fat face with hot dogs and nachos like all the rest of those losers and look at me like I was crazy for actually cheering? LOL at you trying to fight me or something! And FYI I would whip you a** like the joke you are...

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:30 AM | Report abuse

Lol @ people treating GMGM like Vinny. Carlson, Alzner, Neuvy, and Varly aren't even close to being fully developed yet. Green is 24 while Schultz is 23 and at worst is a solid D-Man. In a league were players are productive well into their 30's I think it's safe to say that we have a pretty good thing going here.

I won't lie, this loss hurts like hell but the irony of all this is that we're still a young team with a wide window.

Posted by: CapsXXVI | April 29, 2010 2:22 AM |

Well, I think you missed the point of why we are disgruntled with GMGM.

He has continually ignored the defensive aspects of the game. It's time to see some philosophical changes up front.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Ted Leonsis and George are the happiest guys in DC, they could care less about anything other than the bottom line, regular season champs and the sell outs that go with it.

Post season ? Pffft

Every loyal sheep out there has been had, again.

Posted by: LarryDavid | April 29, 2010 2:32 AM | Report abuse

@ everyone speculating on who to trade.

I say all of them. This was the worst collapse in NHL HISTORY!!!!

They can't win... they are the Caps.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Wow! 10 whole games? Did you just sit there and stuff your fat face with hot dogs and nachos like all the rest of those losers and look at me like I was crazy for actually cheering? LOL at you trying to fight me or something! And FYI I would whip you a** like the joke you are...

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:30 AM |

I have no doubt you will man, so why not pass me your address?

When some guy is enjoying the anonymity of the internet and they want to call me out personally, I like to meet up with them and discuss the matter in person.

If you don't want to give me yours, I'll gladly give you mine. We can discuss the Caps in person.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:34 AM | Report abuse

@ richmondphil

I guess we'll just have to disagree.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

OK...

I'm not a moderator...but FIREPELOSI....i cant agree with all your comments, but LORD KNOWS your name makes sense! :-)

And Richmondphil...10 games from Richmond is honest love. Fo'sho you deserved better!

Look everyone...this team was a HUGE letdown. BUT, these people are responsbile to their fans!!! Heck...an internet blog campaign saved SAAB, I'm sure we can rally for some key changes on the Captitals! lol

It's really simple. YES, we need the defenseman like Hamhuis, etc.

Yes, GMGM is stale and running out of the ability to think differently.

YES...BB has an AWFUL playoff run. Keep him, fire him...i dunno. but if we keep him, prepare backup plan for a Michel Therrien mid-season castaway...

Put Semin and Flash on the market. Maybe shop Green to see if there is a nibble. BUT, I think the right coach can really mold Green...I think he needs a hard ass. As do most of them. But Green especially. So I'll give him that shot.

Goalie....hmmmm....that's the big unknown.

It's not that hard....

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

@RichmondPhil

Go jump of a cliff loser!

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Ted Leonsis and George are the happiest guys in DC, they could care less about anything other than the bottom line, regular season champs and the sell outs that go with it.

Post season ? Pffft

Every loyal sheep out there has been had, again.

Posted by: LarryDavid | April 29, 2010 2:32 AM |

Considering the amount of publicity, endorsements, and money to be had if the Caps win the Cup, I'm sure they aren't very happy and if I was George, I'd be thinking about unemployment soon.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

off

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

Charter flight back to MTL must have been a great one !

GMGM and the Caps get what they wanted, early vacation and a trip to World's for Ovechkin & Semin.

Posted by: LarryDavid | April 29, 2010 2:38 AM | Report abuse

@squirrels

10 games, half of them when my car was broke down too! :)

I miss the days of living in Northern VA, having more money, and my ticket plan...

@FirePelosi

I'll take that as a no; you don't want to back up your words on the anonymity of the internet in person. What a surprise.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:39 AM | Report abuse

@Squirrel

Cap situation I don't think will be that bad.

Backstrom is going to get a (well deserved and huge) raise. They are going to lose some talented players partially b/c of cap, but they are actually in ok shape. I hope Fehr is back, but Flash and some bottom 6 forwards could/will go. None of the trade deadline guys is likely to be back. (I like Belanger but he'll get more $ somewhere else I think.)

On D, I would think Morrison, (certainly) Corvo, and Juice are gone. Unless the goalie next year is Tomas Vokoun, they're going to save money at G.

You are absolutely right that windows open and close for teams, but I don't think this team has remotely run its course yet. There is a VERY good nucleus here. And it guarantees nothing.

No worries for being a downer, man. I'm not a pollyanna and tonight hurts like hell. And it should. But when we FINALLY (please God) win a Cup, I keep telling myself it's going to be that much sweeter. No matter who is here.

Posted by: Konofish | April 29, 2010 2:39 AM | Report abuse

RichmondPhil: Go ahead and post your address on a blog... If you do you might be dumber then you sound.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Players are not paid in the post season, boy did Semin, Fleish and a few others reflect it.

From the top down, classless.
Go grab a camera OV and eat it

Posted by: LarryDavid | April 29, 2010 2:41 AM | Report abuse

I guess we'll just have to disagree.

Posted by: ablake70 | April 29, 2010 2:35 AM |

What are disagreeing about? That coaches and management don't work close together and are separate for a reason? That's just a fact.

BB and GMGM working so close together is just pure speculation on your part.

If we are disagreeing about BB...well yeah, we do. Either way, something has got to be changed.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Trade Ovechkin, Semin, and Green for Crosby straight up! I want a WINNER in town.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Can't believe the season is over! Sounds strange, but i hope the Canadiens do well in the second round - it will really hurt if they get defeated easily since it will only magnify the opportunity the CAPS SQUANDERED!

The Caps need:

1.a Stanley Cup/seasoned playoff defenseman (like Gill)
2. another Knuble like player - someone who can camp out in front of the net and can get the ugly, dirty goals
3. to develop a KILLER INSTINCT!!!

There is no excuse:

1. to choke on a 3-1 series lead
2. have your pp % at something like 3%
3. not to adjust your game to prevent the numerous blocked shots the Canadiens had

Please stop the fire BB/GMGM talk!! Yes, the Caps are young, but NO MORE EXCUSES FOR 2011!! This YOUNG team needs to develop a KILLER INSTINCT! they’re 1-3 in game 7s so no more excuses, showing up flat in per.1, laying game 7 eggs - HOW MANY WAKE UP CALLS DOES THIS TEAM NEED? If BB produces another early playoff exit in 2011 some serious consideration should be given to replace BB. As for GMGM, this series exposed the Caps’ weaknesses and he needs to act accordingly. Cut them both some slack, they’ve done a lot the last couple of years, but if it’s the same story & ending in 2011, we’ve got some MAJOR issues. Although i was hoping for the Cup, i would’ve been happy with the Caps in the Eastern Finals, but a 1st round exit is just embarrassing.

Yes, Halak played great in game 6, yes he stoped 50+ shots, but not all the shots were quality shots and oftentimes the Caps didn’t have enough traffic in front of Halak. This is on the Caps....this hurts, it's going to be a long summer.

Posted by: criscila | April 29, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

None other than Barry Melrose said on SC that the interference penalty should not have been called. So, although we didn't win this series, the Habs had a lot of luck on their side. They played the last couple of games with a completely tilted ice and got all the bounces and calls. However, this is a wake up call that another season of ignoring a sub par defense will result in the same early endings. I would certainly entertain trading Mike Green. He really is bad particularly in the playoffs. However, he is young and Melrose also had a nice diagram of the Habs second goal. It was Carlson's complete laziness in getting back on defense that allowed the second Habs player to grab the puck for a one on one with Varly. Carlson was actually 6/7 feet ahead of the Montreal player and showed no effort to cut him off or get to the puck first. Just lazy skating. So, a slight reprieve for Green on that one.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 29, 2010 2:44 AM | Report abuse

The Crosby vs. Ovechkin stuff drives me nuts more than any other topic revolving around this team.

Even if it's true, the difference is hardly enough to justify the Penguins winning a cup or Team Canada winning the gold medal.

On top of being an extremely gifted player, Crosby walking into extremely great situaions.

--The Penguins have 4 top 2 picks as the core of their team. And they got those picks in back-to-back-to-back-to-back seasons if I'm not mistaken. Their 3rd line center was drafted ahead of Backstrom and, in my opinion, center is the most important forward position by a pretty wide margin.

--Team Canada had by far the deepest roster at the Olympics. Crosby was just one small piece of it despite the winning goal.

Put it this way...

If Crosby was on the Caps and Team Russia and Ovechkin was on the Penguins and Team Canada and all else remained equal, I'm guessing that Crosby has zero championships and that Ovechkin has at least one.

There is also the factor of Penguins' management putting together great playoff-caliber supporting casts in recent years. I believe that they have done a far better in that area than GMGM.

Basically...

Crosby = a great player put in perfect situations to win championships

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Firepelosi,,,,

Your name is an admirable hope....just below the Caps winnig the Cup (barely)

But really...trade Ovie????

I mean....we need changes, but a home needs the kitchen sink.

Crosby is amazing, and as a Caps fan and a fan of The Game, I can only admire what he has done and the way he has handled himself. Assuming he has no Tiger Woods interludes...he is a honor to the sport-- much hated as he is in DC.

I havent talked to an honest hockey or Caps fan who disrespects Sidney the person.

But get Crosby in DC???? Not realistic. Just picking a tussle..

Posted by: squirrel1991 | April 29, 2010 2:47 AM | Report abuse

Ovechkin sucks!!!

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

For many reasons, posting my address on a blog isn't that big of a deal for me.

If you don't want to meet me at my house, that's fine. We can meet at a mutual location..bar or something. Discuss hockey. If you are backing away after professing such bold personal claims, that's okay too. It happens a lot on the internet..what with the anonymity of it and all.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Crosby makes every player better, the same can't be said for OV.

Posted by: LarryDavid | April 29, 2010 2:49 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

Still waiting for you to "glady" post your address there tough guy...

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:50 AM | Report abuse

@squirrel

He's just trolling at this point.

Again, he's the definition of fair-weather.

Since 88 huh...boy you really weathered the tough years there firepelosi! haha

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:50 AM | Report abuse

cbl-pdx:
trying to move guys under contract, especially after their post season performances, could prove to be a bit difficult for GMGM (not a lot of leverage right now)
if they could move semin - i'd like to see theo for another season. he is not elite by any means but would allow for some additional development/evaluation of varly and neuvirth.
i say use the money flash will be asking for and get either a second line center or a nasty 'stay out of my crease' defensive defenseman.
to get some outside leadership and proven grit - some of the hershey guys will need to be given a long hard look - we'll need their lower salaries to help stay under the cap.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 29, 2010 2:52 AM | Report abuse

The Crosby/Ovechkin "rivalry" is starting to remind me of the Jordan/Dominique Wilkins rivalry. Believe it a not, there was a time in the late 80s when people used to argue over who was the better player among those two.

Only 'Nique still puts any stock in those debates.

Posted by: fanzee71 | April 29, 2010 2:52 AM | Report abuse

@Firepelosi

Yes, but unlike cstnaton1 and that maven guy at the deadline 2 years ago, are you actually going to show up?

They surely didn't, and I have a feeling you won't either.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:53 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

I thought you would "gladly" post your address. And "it isn't a big deal" for you... Tool. You are the exact person you try and chastise. You should just end your life for real.

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:54 AM | Report abuse

Firepelosi sounds drunk.

I clapped, cheered, waved my towel, stayed for the three stars and clapped again when the players held their sticks in the air to salute the fans. The fans at game 1 were worse than tonight's crowd. Except for the row of Habs a couple sections over. Season ticket holders, shame on you for selling to the enemy.

I'm probably in the minority here but I was more upset at last year's season ender. Maybe because last year they looked deflated and stopped playing with 30 minutes left to go. Tonight they played to the very end, in spite of Ovi's crushing no goal from the refs. To me, that would've been enough for last year's team to call it a night.

I do think this team needs to make some changes though. I almost wish they hadn't won so many games in the regular season because there were far too many times when we got away with a win and overlooked the mistakes.

Posted by: letsgocaps3 | April 29, 2010 2:56 AM | Report abuse

I think we should start calling this team the Washington Phoenix Suns Sharks.

Richmond: your obviously a punk. I'm going to bed now so I'll check in the morning to see if you "gladly" posted your address...

Posted by: Firepelosi | April 29, 2010 2:58 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

C'mon, man... you're one of the guys that keeps me sane around here with your rational posts.

I know that the guy instigated it with that one comment but things are already bad enough in Caps land tonight. The level-headed discussion is keeping me from drowning the pain away with alcohol.

I'd ask Firepelosi to be cool but based on his last 20 posts or so, I think that he's past the point of no return.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 2:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm just trying to make sure you come, because if you want it so bad;

17 west broad street apt #4g
richmond, va 23220

It's on the corner of Adams and Broad in Richmond..can't miss it because there's a huge Ovechkin banner hanging outside the side window. Right next to Tarrant's and 27; restaurants.

Now I know after posting this you still won't come, but still. There it is champ..let me know when you're stopping by.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 2:59 AM | Report abuse

@tmac

Hey, I just want to meet him in person and discuss hockey.

I extend this offer to anyone who wishes to attack me personally on the internet. Anonymity is a funny thing.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 3:00 AM | Report abuse

@Firepelosi

I'll take one stab at it.

richmondphil, you and I and the majority of the rest of the folks here are good people that are really bummed about this situation.

We don't all need to give virtual hugs to each other but let's try to vent in a rational way.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Firepelosi's tea-bagger rage appears to have manifested itself in his posts. Dude, chill out. No one is happy and I don't think any Caps fan in their right mind thinks the team can continue in its present make-up.

Having watched this team play throughout the season, this outcome should not have come as much of a surprise. Yes they won. Sure they broke records. But I always had a sense of uneasiness as I looked forward to the playoffs, not sure about the rest of you guys.

The lack of discipline. The lack of grit/physicality. The lack of a killer instinct as teams were constantly let back into games. The defensive lapses. All are easy to mask when goals come easy. But they don't in the playoffs, and that is why we'll be watching Cindy and the Pens make yet another run for the Cup, while we sit at home and pick our a**es.

Posted by: F_Danny_Boy | April 29, 2010 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Tmac, I would surely give you and all the other regulars (including my arch-nemesis joek443 and cstanton1) a huge virtual hug. I would even hug Cheef and StanleyCop1907 at this point...even they post with more regularity than this guy.

However, windjammer is not getting a hug...ever.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 3:05 AM | Report abuse

Alex the Epic Fail.
That's really a season to remember. I'm glad, he isn't japanese, cause then he should have done seppuku after Game7 with his stick.
Actually he wasn't bad, but this team is as unbalanced as russian team at the Olympics.

What to do now? If you get owned regularly, it will not help to cry it out and smile till the next time.
I'm looking forward to some moves by Ted and GM. Obviously a new coach is needed.

Posted by: Michael01a | April 29, 2010 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Japanese hockey players or the term Japanese in any sentence related to hockey always remind me of Taro Tsujimoto.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 3:11 AM | Report abuse

you want to know whats worse than a pen troller or an outright hater?
i've got a friend at work that is not into hockey whatsoever. i wear my caps sh*t to work all the time. this peckerhead sent me an e-mail within minutes of the caps losing about how over rated (and what a dirty player) ovi is, and how crosby and canada are better.
i think when lunchtime comes around tomorrow i'm gonna tell him to f off - maybe cindy can get mario to set an extra plate at the table for him.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 29, 2010 3:17 AM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

I disagree, but only because GM's are notoriously stupid for 40 goal scorers. I think moving Semin would not be that hard because a lot of GM's would salivate at the prospect of getting a 40 goal scorer (even if he is a dud in the playoffs). Remember, he placed 7th in the entire NHL in goals this year. He might fetch a decent second line center or some picks at the least. Green will be more difficult. Probably only picks if they are lucky to get that much. But between them, that clears 11.5 mil in cap space to resign Backstrom and Fehr and go get a very good D-man. Maybe wishful thinking, but trying to stay positive.

Posted by: cbl-pdx | April 29, 2010 3:19 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

I've only gotten into talking sports over the internet in the last couple of years. I do it here and on one other site.

I got into tons of arguments early on but have gotten a little better at not letting the frustration get to me in the past year or so. I still lose it once in a while, obviously.

I've done the same "let's meet up" thing and sadly, I wouldn't be too shocked if I do it again at some point.

The bottom line is that the anonymity of the internet leads a lot of people to say things that they wouldn't say face-to-face. There is much less incentive to hold back your thoughts in this environment.

I find that chatting about sports on the internet in an enjoyable way is something that requires practice because of the emotional ups and down tied to watching sports and the nature of communication over the internet.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 3:19 AM | Report abuse

@tmac

My Kings are gone too, so now I have no teams to root for.

Go Z-berg and Douglas Murray !

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 3:19 AM | Report abuse

Guys..Semin has a ton of stock and tons of teams would want him.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 3:23 AM | Report abuse

you want to know whats worse than a pen troller or an outright hater?
i've got a friend at work that is not into hockey whatsoever. i wear my caps sh*t to work all the time. this peckerhead sent me an e-mail within minutes of the caps losing about how over rated (and what a dirty player) ovi is, and how crosby and canada are better.
i think when lunchtime comes around tomorrow i'm gonna tell him to f off - maybe cindy can get mario to set an extra plate at the table for him.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | April 29, 2010 3:17 AM |

The heckling co-workers...ahhh, I think everyone has at least one of these guys.

Unfortunately, I work with a Canadian and guess what team he roots for? Yeah...

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 3:26 AM | Report abuse

Also Kirk, that's why I took off tomorrow/today.

I was going to say..work tomorrow and you're up this late?..but I remembered you are Capt Kirk in AZ, not Capt Kirk on East Coast.

Posted by: richmondphil | April 29, 2010 3:28 AM | Report abuse

Our highest paid defenseman and forward have had a really tough year.

Green doesn't make Team Canada (I know, there is no argument that it was a snub at this point) then has his second straight playoff dud performance.

Ovechkin loses to Team Canada then Canada's Team a few months later. At least Team Russia's loss wasn't considered as much of an upset. I believe that they were ranked ahead of them in the World Rankings prior to the Olympics though as ridiculous as that looks now.

I wouldn't even want to show up at the awards show for the Norris and MVP.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 3:30 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how meaningless one of the best regular seasons in the history of the league looks at this point.

It really was a pretty special accomplishment considering that we are in the salary cap era where there is much more parity among teams.

It means nothing now though. It actually feels worse because there were greater expectations.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 3:35 AM | Report abuse

I remember going to games as a kid with my father and just enjoying the atmosphere. It was as much about getting popcorn and being at the arena as it was about wanting the team to win. It was exciting to see other teams and players. Concepts like calling another player "Cindy" were foreign to me.

It was easy to get over losses and not making the playoffs. I was barely even conscious of those things at that age.

It was mostly about the thrill of knowing that your father was taking you to a Caps game that night and that maybe you would get a signature or stick after the game.

Now, as an adult, the losses hurt much more. It's almost all about winning and less about the pure experience of getting to watch a game. That's sad really.

Oh, to be young and ignorant...

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Just a few thoughts on this topic while the bitter taste is strong in my mouth.

1) I was nervous with the approach of this years playoffs - this is a young team still and I felt if I was that nervous (at my age watching) I could imagine the pressure on them.

2) Since the Olympic break - perhaps bringing in all the new people broke the consistency of our offense. We started playing 1 goal games 4-3, 5-4, 4-5, 3-4, 2-1 every night. The lines were always different and I think that is the wrong way to prepare for the stretch drive.

3) We all were very defensive - we took offense to other hockey people, journalists, teams and players questioning our goaltending, defense, or style of play. I think as a collective organization in our rush to call out R.J. Umberger or to defend Ovechkin's image we all took our eye off the ball.

4) I think a sense of arrogance took over the Caps - we were setting ourselves up for a big fall because we were trying to not just win but win convincingly - something we really did not do well since the Olympics.

5) Agendas of players were split this year. Everyone wanted to achieve records..personal and team..and still they all wanted Olympic medals! I'm sorry I care s...t about Olympic medals as a Caps follower and wish that 100% focus could have stayed on that goal of winning the cup only. (Let Latvia win the Olympics)

6) The team this year did not adjust well - we lost games to Montreal this year...and Carolina...and NJ - but we never changed our system to compensate for it. This has been said on here before but its obvious. For some reason some on the Caps players/coaches felt they were good enough to impose their own will all the time - and we should be wiser to play to win however we need to sometimes. Keep playing Carolina like we were and we lose...ditto Montreal etc.

7) Ovechkin changed. He stopped hitting. All the stuff others said about him being a dirty player changed his approach. That is not a good thing and I hope he gets it back in the offseason. OV has to play like OV not Afinigenov or Fedorov or Mogilny.

Anyway - there is some good that came from this year. I am certain in September all those who wanted us to fail will list us right back up with the elite of the league again.

We get to rid us of some contracts and maybe make free agency pitch to fill serious holes with players who can step in for the whole season.

We are still the organization that is deep in talent and the envy of everyone else.

I did enjoy all the winning and just wish it could of kept going another 6 weeks.

Lets Go Caps!

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | April 29, 2010 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Na-Na-Na
Na-Na-Na
Hey Hey
Gooddddbye !!!!!

Ah ! Ah ! Ah !

Oveschkin, you should have give signature to the kid !

Posted by: ianfromMontreal | April 29, 2010 4:30 AM | Report abuse

Mmm what can ya say? Perhaps that the gamble to disrupt what seemed to be the chemistry of the team by dropping Captain Chris Clark, and bringing in Bel, Corv, and Walker did not work. The mgt took those chances, and (maybe) would have been better off not to. But, what can ya do - make the best decision you know how, and hope and work for the best.

The greatest loss in all this, economically anyway, is off big Ted - how much additional revenue would have accrued with a few more Caps playoff series at the Booth?

The Caps seemed somewhat weak after the Olympic break anyway - barely winning games on fortuitous bounces and last-second heroics, close games that went our way. Then came the playoffs, and they were not good enough to advance. I was hoping they would firm up, but their weaknesses caught up with them.

We lack some pieces obviously, that need to come from somewhere, if things are to improve. I will leave that up to the hockey geniuses that Ted can afford to employ to discern the problems and execute a winning solution.

Posted by: CommonHerdsman | April 29, 2010 4:34 AM | Report abuse

We are still the organization that is deep in talent and the envy of everyone else.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | April 29, 2010 4:13 AM

I know that you are a fan, not a player, but this was odd to read after what you said in point #4.

Maybe you are experiencing the same problem as the players, a sense of arrogance?

On top of that, we are NOT the envy of EVERYONE else.

In fact, right now, we are the envy of NOBODY else and it will stay that way until this team proves itself when it matters.

Posted by: tmac2yao | April 29, 2010 4:38 AM | Report abuse

@ tmac2yao
You do know that people in other organizations want our young players but not our playoff history...we hear it all the time from GMs and scouts that they think the Caps have done a good job getting the right pieces. Its what you do with them that we notice. Time will tell (I have said that b4)

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | April 29, 2010 5:02 AM | Report abuse

Congrats to the Habs and their fans.

The Caps have all the ingredients of a great regular season hockey club. But they still lack the one ingredient that's absolutely essential for success in the Stanley Cup playoffs: mental toughness.

Maybe next year.

Posted by: kbash33 | April 29, 2010 5:51 AM | Report abuse

This sucks! But I still Love my Caps!

And I HATE Tracee Hamilton!

Posted by: capscoach | April 29, 2010 6:19 AM | Report abuse

WHY do we as fans continue to put ourselves though this FAILURE in the playoffs year after year !! I'm done w/ these CHOKING DOGS until BB is REPLACED by a coach that knows how to implement SOME SORT of DEFENSE !!!!!

ANOTHER loss w/ VARLEY in net !!! U gotta be freakin' kiddin' me !!! THEO got us through the season w/ flying colors, and we don't even give him a shot at GAME7. VARLEY let's in 2 SOFT goals......CHOKED!!!

Posted by: FishCaps | April 29, 2010 6:31 AM | Report abuse

Well last night was one of the proudest moments I have ever had as a Caps fan and that dates back to 1974.
Face it it was no hot goalie ( lets see how hot he is playing Crosby and Malkin ) the Caps were out coached and out played.
And fans who want to try and put a positive spin on this need to have their heads examined. But as long as there are fans like that then mgmgt. will continue to do it's not quite good enough job.
I for one as a Caps fan have finally had it. Over 35 years of the same old bs and the same old excuses. The great regular season doesn't mean squat now. You play the regular season to get to the playoffs and try to make a REAL run for the cup, thats why they play the games, one reason and one reason only POST SEASON. And the Caps clan gets a big fat F as a grade for there post season body of work.
Bill Clement said it best after we lost game 5 at home " something is a miss in the Caps locker room and I firmly believe that now. I out 90% of this on the coaching staff and the other 10% on a hand full of players. Two years now in the post season and NO Green or Semin. Face it they are not post season players.
I only hope that Green does not win the Norris, lets face it he really doesn't deserve it.
It's goning to be a LOOOOONG summer and year until we can hopefully get back to the playoffs.

Posted by: jotay131 | April 29, 2010 6:32 AM | Report abuse

... it's going to be a rough couple of weeks for me. I bet it is for all you guys as well. It still seems surreal. I still don't believe we had a freakin' 3-1 lead, had them on the ropes, and let MTL win 3 straight on us.

I'm still BAFFLED by the no goal call. THAT IS A GOOD GOAL. Not even being homerish but THERE IS NO WAY THAT'S NOT A GOAL. That's just like any other goal scored, with a guy in front. Knuble barely GRAZED him. I can't believe the refs could make such a ticky tack call in a 1-0 game 7. Not blaming that play for the reason why we lost but that's a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE point of the game and changes everything if that stands. I feel like I've seen a TON of goals scored like that before and it's always a good goal. Halak was allowed to do what he wanted to do and that little brush by Knuble didn't affect him there. He just didn't make the save, it should've counted. If anyone can explain to me why it was the right call, please go ahead. I'd love to hear why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ECXS_jb5FA

Watch at 18 seconds. Unbelievable.

Posted by: rachel216 | April 29, 2010 6:37 AM | Report abuse

IMO this talk of firing the coach or firing the GM is a little premature. They put together a talented team, one that does not work hard enough for 60 minutes, but they do have skill.

The problem is the lazy play. It happened for long stretches of the regular season and it happened during stretches of this series. In the regular season they could overcome this with superior skill, in the playoffs they could not. I do not want to hear any more BS about how horrible our defense is, our forwards maybe the laziest backcheckers I have ever seen. The forwards not giving 100% in their own zone killed us.

Mike Green? Well he had a rough series, played horrible. Not much else to say about it. If he is not willing to play hard during a game he needs to be benched but it appears Bruce is too close to him personally to do it.

Posted by: overhead | April 29, 2010 6:39 AM | Report abuse

As a Pens fan who also very much enjoys watching the Caps, even I feel pretty sick after watching this series. I was looking forward to a Pens/Caps conference final, and am still hoping for a Pens/Caps winter classic next season.

Anyway ... Enough people, from Joe-the-fan to hockey experts to RJ Umberger etc. have pointed out the obvious. Playoff hockey is different than regular season hockey. Certain attributes such as skill, finesse, tape-to-tape precision, etc work well during the regular season ... but in the playoffs, tight checking, blocking shots, constant traffic at the net become more of a premium.

The thing that pisses me off is that everyone knows this ... yet, the Caps didn't seem to make many adjustments. After 6 games worth of Montreal blocking shots, the Caps still keep shooting the same way, rather than faking now and then, shooting wide intentionally, etc. After 6 games worth of not being very dedicated to screening Halek, they still didn't do that very well last night. Nowhere near enough. In a game 7 against a hot goalie, there should be someone in his face on every single offensive zone possession.

The Caps roster is talented enough for a cup (or two or three), but their approach to the playoffs needs to fundamentally change. Bringing in a few guys might help, but much more important is how the team is coached and prepared for the playoffs.

Jeff

Posted by: PensFan98 | April 29, 2010 6:42 AM | Report abuse

The greatest meltdown in Capitals history is complete and there is plenty of blame to go around from the management to the players themselves. That being said, I have been one of the biggest Mike Green supporters on this blog and just have this to say.......Thanks so much for finally showing up last night Mike, unfortunately it was not in the way we as fans had hoped. The first goal is ALL on you with that IGNORANT penalty that put your team down 4 on 3 at the end of the first completely deflating an otherwise terrific period of hockey. Then there was that blunder in the third that left Varly out to dry one on one against a Hab in front of the net.....without those two blunders game seven is most likely ours.

Don't get me wrong, I am not putting this series on Green by any means but game seven is a win IMO without that moronic move he made in the first that directly led to the Habs first goal.

And yes, changes must be made to make this team tougher and more defensive minded when playoff time comes around....I love watching the run and gun in the regular season but it OBVIOUSLY does not work in post season. Gabby must adjust, I think he will have the reigns next year but I think that will be the end of the leash if he fails to adjust again in the post season.

Posted by: PhilR | April 29, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

As someone posted, at least the guys didn't totally lay an egg in the last game and get blown out. I'll give them credit in that regard.

Still, this first round loss feels MUCH worse than last year's second round loss since the expectations were higher.

I assume there will be greater changes to the team as a result. I figure our newly acquired players will be allowed to walk. As will Theodore.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | April 29, 2010 7:03 AM | Report abuse

The only positive thing about this epic collapse is NO MORE Mike Wise columns, Yeah!!! When is the Post going to realize that the majority hate his columns, his lack of hockey knowledge, his pedantery, his stupid humor?

Posted by: Irreverent_inDC | April 29, 2010 7:05 AM | Report abuse

Man I wish I could go back and pull up my posts from earlier in the season. I told everyone this would happen.....Sucks but what do you expect. its sports in DC

Posted by: CapsFan44 | April 29, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Ted,

Fire George McPhee. He failed in his job to build a team willing and able to play defense. He repeatedly ignored criticism about the defense. Fire Bruce because he lets his emotional ties get in the way of making sound coaching decisions. At least he finally pulled Flash in game 7.

Rebuild the team from the ground up with tough, hungry players that do not mind playing defense.

And finally, GET RID OF MIKE GREEN. He is a liability. He choked and he mouthed off about Montreal not being a tough opponent.

Posted by: evtoi | April 29, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

For: LarryDavid

Charter went straight to Pittsburgh... who would have thought....GO HABS GO!

Posted by: joseelarocque | April 29, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse

If anyone saw our record against teams from Canada during the regular season this collapse comes as no surprise...ever since we drew montreal in the first round the first thought in my head wasnt that we were going to win the series...it was that we suck against teams from canada....i was surprised that we were up 3-1 in the series in the first place

Posted by: kickass10101 | April 29, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

Where is left_coast and all of his moronic, arrogant statements? As much as it pains me to say PensFan98 you are exactly correct. This ENTIRE organization only cares about goals. From the owner, and can we be done with "Ted's Take", to the GM, coach, players, fans, and even those damn bells at the arena... it's only about goals. Who has more? How many 20+ scorers do we have? It doesn't matter that Green can't stop Stephen Hawking from scoring on him, just score more goals. That philosophy works when we are padding our stats against the crap of the SE, but playoff time WE STINK. As I have been calling for all year, can we stop as a fanbase the petty name calling of Crosby (Cindy, Crybaby, Crysby, Diver, Whiner) because what he can be called is Cup-Champion.

Posted by: stop_it | April 29, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Just watched BB post game. He ignored criticism about his system and lack of defense. Neither GM nor BB get it. They must be fired. Rebuild the team.

Posted by: evtoi | April 29, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

is there a petition I can sign to get GMGM canned?

Posted by: jerseygirl15 | April 29, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

In the words of Herb Brooks, "Gentleman you don't have enough talent to win on talent alone. If BB thinks his superstars are going to carry him to the cup, then BB may be looking in from the outside next year. Semin did his best Claude Rains impersonation of the Invisible Man. Mike Green did his in The Return Of The Invisible Man. I'm a Pens fan but I do respect the Caps great talent but your lineup may need tweeking for next year.

Posted by: keenan214 | April 29, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

A few notes:

1) Semin didn't score but prob. played better last 3 games than did Backstrom. So how bad is he? He wasn't on the ice for goals against, he backchecked, he created opportunities, he was very much part of the one goal even if it wasn't his stick that touched it. Semin is bad at selling himself to the media and fans but he didn't play badly. He worked very hard, he managed to create better than any other forward but Ovie.

2) GMGM must stay - he's done a fantastic job. The way to build an organization is with stability, like Detroit. He's assembled a machine that works, good scouts, a place people want to play. Let him keep getting better at his job.

3) We were not desperate enough. Game 2, we came from 3 goals down - I think stuff like that made us cocky.

4) Montreal played negative hockey but played it very, very well. If a team of decent hockey players devotes 95% of its effort to just preventing opportunities by the opposition, they can make that happen. Mtl did. Good for the team, bad for the sport.

5) Not sure I would fire BB, but I'm not thinking the system works. I think he can improve but I hope he's cured of his superstitious attachments to players.

6) Carlson was superb. I think the most effective player we had in game 7. But I might've missed some stuff...

7) Probably gone next season: Corvo, BMo, Theo. Belanger? Meh - not that impressive, it turns out. Let's see what we can get as another center.

8) Also, a big thank-you to Theo for this year - great season, much appreciated, let's hope you get another decent contract somewhere you've proven you belong in the league. Not sure it will be here, but that's not your fault..

Posted by: RedLitYogi | April 29, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

It's time to move on from this sad story and to concentrate on the winners.

Go Pens! Crosby hoists his second!

Posted by: NoDonkey | April 29, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

I have not seen one word written about why the Caps lost. It was due to fantastic defensive performance by Montreal whose players had to have blocked more shots than any other team in the history of the playoffs. Every time a Caps player had the puck two or three players were around them, and the Canadiens had no interest in concentrating on the offensive side of the puck. Excellent goaltending and defense win playoffs. The Caps need to get rid of Semin and bring in more two-way players. Backstrom was easily the MVP of the series for the Caps.

Posted by: ravcolt | April 29, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Fire George McPhee. Trade Mike Green and Alexander Semin. Period.

Posted by: geester1 | April 29, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

2) GMGM must stay - he's done a fantastic job. The way to build an organization is with stability, like Detroit. He's assembled a machine that works, good scouts, a place people want to play. Let him keep getting better at his job.

Posted by: RedLitYogi

WTF? He has done a fantastic job of building the best team in the SE and at the same time the worst playoff team in the NHL. He does not get it and must be fired. His efforts have failed miserably. He refuses to acknowledge a hole in defense and continues to add expensive forwards. This team will never win the cup with McPhee and/or Boudreau. NEVER

Posted by: evtoi | April 29, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

And I bet the Caps have blown another opportunity to play in the Winter Classic. One thing is for sure; the debate on who is the better player between Crosby and Ovie is certainly over.

Posted by: geester1 | April 29, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Fire George McPhee. Trade Mike Green and Alexander Semin. Period.

Posted by: geester1

Exactly!!!


Posted by: evtoi | April 29, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

@ravcolt: Get rid of Semin and bring in more two-way players? I agree with trading Semin, but he does backcheck. We have another guy, what's his name... anyway, all he does is cherry pick the blue line. Works in the regular season, NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS! We should think of building this team around Backstrom, since he makes his teammates better.

Posted by: stop_it | April 29, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

4) Montreal played negative hockey but played it very, very well. If a team of decent hockey players devotes 95% of its effort to just preventing opportunities by the opposition, they can make that happen. Mtl did. Good for the team, bad for the sport.

Posted by: RedLitYogi

Same thing the Rags did last year to the Caps. The caps got lucky to move past the Rags. Our luck ran out this year. You cannot win a cup on luck and lousy management.

I guess you don't mind losing in the POs as long as you get to see lots of flashy goals during the RS. DA

Posted by: evtoi | April 29, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad that we in Pittsburgh have Crosby and NOT Ovechkin!! On To The Playoffs!!!!

Posted by: joecon1 | April 29, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

A complete and utter embarrassment, making the regular season completely meaningless.
I'm done with this team; who needs this aggravation.
-a Former Caps Fan.

Posted by: RichinVA | April 29, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

How can Ted be satisfied with McPhee and Boudreau? They have had SE and league success during the regular season, and they have some of the most talented forwards in the league, but they cannot get the job done during the RS. Ted must not be complacent. He must not be satisfied. He must FIRE GM and BB and get rid of of the fancy and weak players GREEN and FLEISCHMANN

Posted by: evtoi | April 29, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm sitting here this morning devistated because of last nights loss. Not because we lost as the number 1 seed and blew another 3-1 series but because we lost the same way again. Im a hockey fan and realize that in the playoffs nothing is given, you have to take, take , take..personally i think we kinda made it easy for them..meaning we were supposed to have been the physically dominant team but we didnt use that advantage.
Theres a lot of gm's on this post and some of you sure do have opinions on extensions of contracts and how many years and so forth. I would suggest chilling for a while before tearing the team apart. If gm called me this morning and said who do we keep, I would have a hard time coming up with five names. The announcer last night on versus said it best and guys if you didnt hear him this is going to sting "the caps are built for the regular season"......thats it in a nutshell. So dont blame it on the players "they are who we thought they were" skill players who struggle to develop there own shots...
Going to play gm anyway in hope it makes me feel better. First, instead of asking europeans(skill players) to crash net find net crashers..second, find def that will impose themselves on others..third, pick a goaltender. With that said my big off season move would be.....drum roll please.....trade semin...i would trade all 40+ regular season goals of his for a player who can score 2/3 playoff goals in a playoff series. Also would take a good hard look at green. man he pisses me off but i'm going to refrain from comment. Thats it. To much to say and to tired to go on.

Posted by: cptjack70 | April 29, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

FIRE MCPHEE!

Posted by: Mike4169 | April 29, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

@cptjack70: Very true statements. The Pens have a guy named Craig Adams. The fans there love him. He is a hard worker, tremendous penalty killer, and a banger on the boards. He had exactly ZERO goals this regular season. He already has more goals than Semin this postseason. Where is our Craig Adams?

Posted by: stop_it | April 29, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

By the way Adams has his name on the Cup... twice. Kind of shows the types thathelp win 16 playoff games. if he was on this team, everyone would be screaming, "Where are his goals? Get him out of here!"

Posted by: stop_it | April 29, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

caps lost in first round to the 19 seeded team overall !!!!! WHAT A SHAME . Hey whats new ?, we getting used to broken dreams !!!!! go cap and they are GONE GONE GONE . LOVE MY CAPS and HOPE for NEXT YEAR VICTORY.

Posted by: knopka | April 29, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I think we all need to be careful for what we wish for. I agree need a mean tough defensemen or three and need a dominant goalie which we may have already but to get rid of Green maybe a mistake. Believe me I am frustrated with him but I've seen us get rid of Larry Murphy and Sergei Gonchar - oh even Kevin Hatcher because of some of the same stuff. Now maybe they didn't make some of the mistakes Green does but similar type players. Green still is learning and we need to take him for what he is. An offensive player- helps gets you to the playoffs but when the playoffs starts he isn't who you rely on at this stage.

Posted by: vryan | April 29, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I think we all need to be careful for what we wish for. I agree need a mean tough defensemen or three and need a dominant goalie which we may have already but to get rid of Green maybe a mistake. Believe me I am frustrated with him but I've seen us get rid of Larry Murphy and Sergei Gonchar - oh even Kevin Hatcher because of some of the same stuff. Now maybe they didn't make some of the mistakes Green does but similar type players. Green still is learning and we need to take him for what he is. An offensive player- helps gets you to the playoffs but when the playoffs starts he isn't who you rely on at this stage.

Posted by: vryan

If you can't be relied upon in the playoffs, then you are of no use. Regular season doesn't mean much as long as you make the playoffs, just ask MTL.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2 | April 29, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I've always defended Greener, but we've seen him through four 7-game series now in 3 years, and he just doesn't raise his game for the playoffs. He made such great progress on the defensive side during the 2nd half of the regular season and then he just seemed to completely brain-lock in the playoffs. It's inexplicable why the youngster Carlson consistently makes better puck decisions than Green.

Gonchar was really just part of the Caps early 2000s salary dump/draft picks piling up process. Murphy excelled with teams that seemed a better fit for his talents.

Some Canadian columnists suggest the Caps go after Calgary's D Robyn Regehr (http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/players/54670/Robyn_Regehr) or Ottowa's D Anton Volchenkov (http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/players/54383/Anton_Volchenkov). I just doubt Ted & gmgm would pony up, unless they're short-term deals.

Posted by: blackjack65 | April 29, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

If you can't be relied upon in the playoffs, then you are of no use. Regular season doesn't mean much as long as you make the playoffs, just ask MTL.

Posted by: CAPSHOCKEY2

Completely understand- I have watched the Caps for 30 years and had season tickets in the late 80's. I'm merely stating that we have gone down this road before and gotten rid of talented defensemen that went on to win many cups sometimes it just takes a few takes more experience. With that being said it would help to pair him or at least have a nasty Scott Stevens type. Oh and we got rid of him to and how many cups did he win. A few tweaks not get rid of everyone.

Posted by: vryan | April 29, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Each year I don't think it can get any worse and each year I am proven wrong.

They need to recall all the 10 greatest game DVDs and replace them with 10 biggest collapes in playoff history!!!

Good luck trying to get rid of Green Semin and Flash now. You would have to pay a team to take that trash.

BB is way too close to his players. Not once did he bench anyone for sloppy lazy play. Not once from game 1-82 to the playoffs.

Russian machine never breaks? Russian machine never comes up big in BIG games either. WJC, olympics or game 7s.

I am done spending time, money and emotional on this team. I'm out.

Posted by: bndra12 | April 29, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Ok, I'm venting, but Green played soooo bad in this series that I will actually be upset if he WINS the Norris Trophy. The whiff and then the subsequent cross-checking penalty in the offensive zone is just unexcusable!!! Green choked, Semin choked, Boudreau choked, and Ovie choked.

Posted by: jmontemayor32 | April 29, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Not a fan of Ovechkins, but I admire his talent, and honestly, his drive to win. He wants a cup, and likely one day, he'll earn his cup.

People like Semin though, who fail to produce when it matters (zero goals last 14 playoff games) show no real drive to win it all or clutch performances. Wonder if he has the chutzpah to ask "whats so special about crosby" again. Well alex, he shows when it counts.

Regardless, great season caps, and hoping the right changes get em the playoff makeup they need to push further in the future.

Posted by: spynnal | April 29, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Those of you saying this falls on George Mcphee, you're way off. on Bruce Boudreau? - at least you have an argument. On the players? - 100% or maybe 86% on the players, 4% on the refs/NHL and 10% on BB

F!!

Posted by: rihardy | April 29, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

This is hilarious!!! Thank you Capitals for giving us something here in Pittsburgh to once again laugh about. Fair-weather fans turning on themselves!!! Love it. By the way, can we please...please stop any discussions on who the best player in the NHL is...??? He...unlike your glorified number 8...is playing tomorrow, and will most likely carry his team to another championship...as expected by TRUE MVP's. I will truly miss reading the responses from those who once again will be watching Crosby take his team further than Ovechkin..all while sitting infront of their TVs!!! BTW...can't spell Ovechkin without C-H-O-K-E!!! Best of luck next fall.

Posted by: crosbybeatsovie | April 29, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I keep coming back to this, but I never understood BB's attitude in this series. He and OV disrespected the very proud Montreal Canadiens and it bit them in the ass hard. The spying nonsense (read BB's book, he's done this before), the snowjob on the kid, the quip about the shaky hands goalie, the jabs at Jacques Martin and other mind games. I don't get it. What were they thinking? The #1 team should have been above all that, but it ended up being the other way around. Martin, with an inferior team, came up with a system and implemented it. The Caps were just all over the place.

Posted by: DrPuckenstein | April 29, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I am disappointed that the Capitals lost last night. However, I am more disappointeed with the Capitals fans today. The Ovechkin bashing is beyond absurd and an embarassment to the Capital fan base. There is not a team in the league that wouldn't take Ovechkin to include the Penguins. Just because Crosby has won at this point and Ovechkin hasn't does not mean Ovechkin is a loser. Crosby winning at such a young age is the exception not the rule. Ovechkin is only 24 years old and has only been in the league for five seasons. At the same point in their careers neither Gretzky (won Stanley in his sixth season) or Lemieux (won Stanley in his seventh season) had won a Stanley Cup. Further, Michael Jordan, Peyton Manning, and John Elway all had not won a championship at this point in their career. Were they losers? Should their fans have thrown in the towel on them? Of course not, and the same is true for Alex. He is way too young for the kind of vitriol being thrown his way.

Posted by: Gambrills4 | April 29, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Didn't Pittsburgh almost lose the team so don't give me fair weather. Always nice to gloat when things are going well just shows a lack of class. Look I have no problem saying Crosby is a better team player but every situation is different. A bounce here or a break there it could be completely different. Detroit actually showing up last year and playing instead of taking it for granted. Is Ben a better quarterback then Peyton? Oh but he has more rings.

Posted by: vryan | April 29, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone have any antidepressants I can borrow??

I've said this before, as a huge fan of the Caps and HOCKEY in general, I think that this loss is bad for hockey as a whole. Many people complain that the regular hockey season is too long and meaningless. Well when the most dominant team in hockey loses to a number 8 seed in the playoffs, hockey loses credibility considering 7 months are completely meaningless. This is just plain bad for the sport of hockey.

Posted by: ebz40 | April 29, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Green is still learning -- a good point -- but the question is, is he a cornerstone of this team or is he more valuable to someone else (with a lack of back-line scoring, perhaps) and hence the perfect trade material to land the Caps the kind of signature defenseman they desperately lack.

I just think, with all Washington's scoring options, Green's greatest asset isn't needed here.

Ovechkin hasn't been the same since the Olympics, and maybe some long time off will help. I still feel the kid needs a mentor to truly reach his potential, not in skill but rather maturity and leadership.

Posted by: scrappledog | April 29, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Pittsburgh almost lost its team...until the city rallied around the ownership and the ever-growing fan-base supported their team in not only a time of desperation...but a down period as well. From a outsider's view...this bashing of the Capitals is absurd and quite frankly amusing at points. The PLAYOFFS are about match-ups...until BB takes time away from assanine comments and Geico commercials to build a team AND a gameplan suitable for a defensive-minded stretch of games...the Caps can be as great as they want in the regular season...yet will never have a summer with Stanley. Being a true Hockey fan, I will give credit when credit is due...and the Caps were phenomenal in the regular season and have brought about a rivalry with Pittsburgh that the NHL and the media-bed-partners are thoroughly reaping the benefits of. Sure, I would have loved to see the Caps move on to face the Pens in yet another agonying, stressful, 7 game series...but in order to do so...they first need to become a playoff team. As for the fanbase...I've been to a Caps game and was disappointed and rather unpleased with the amount of money that can easily push aside the real fans that end up frantically cheering for their team outside of the arena...albeit in a bar or in their living room. Also...this blog is about Hockey...let's not bring the Steelers QB into this. QB's can rack up all the stats they want...but until they lead their team to a championship, their career will be at a loss to the likes of not only the fanbase but also their peers. He's a QB on the field and a dirtball off and has lost all respect of a being in the home of the DEFENDING STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS. Hockey. History will be made. GodSpeed.

Posted by: crosbybeatsovie | April 29, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

The Red Wings went through the exact same growing pains for MANY years in the early 90's. President's Trophies and bounced in the 1st or 2nd round. Then they brought in Scotty Bowman and installed a team system that is still used to this day. My observation is the Cap's have NO SYSTEM. Ovie gets the puck, puts his head down and tries to go 1-on-1 with every defenseman in front of him. What is the breakout plan? What is the power-play plan?

I think they live on talent and die when the play-offs start because other teams apply a SYSTEM to take away the talent.

Posted by: wingsfan2 | April 29, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

C'mon guys, cheer up, it's just a game... You should know that the 8 seeders that the Habs are, that just made it to second round only started to play and enjoy a full alignement after the olympic pause... Caps faced a team that deserved much better and that was built for a better spot in the playoffs since they suffered so many injuries on their best players in the course of the season...I remember a game with 8 players from AHL in the alignement.

This said, like one of your reporter wrote, Ovechkin, Semin did not show-up for training before game 7... what does that tell you about leadership... How does a Captain goes about cheering his team if he's not even in the building... I think the Caps beat themselves because of a lack of work ethic... or ethic point blank. Talent alone is not enough... Talent and hardwork win Stanley Cup.

The key to success may rely in Ovechkin's capacity to analyze, grow up and become mature.

Cheers!!

Posted by: lithium2 | April 29, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I never cease to be amused at talk across the sporting spectrum of "real fans," "REAL hockey fans," "bandwagon fans," etc. Professional sports franchises want to sell seats to whoever wishes to pay for them.

Posted by: scrappledog | April 29, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

This team will only get better and learn from this failure. It took Gretzky 4 years before he got his first Cup. It's not a fluke that the Caps ran away with the President's Trophy this year. They'll be back with a vengeance next season and a bit more savvy.

Posted by: chitownskinsfan | April 29, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

For all the hype surrounding Mike Green and his slight from the Canadien Olympic team...Canada knows hockey, Mike Green is not a good defensemen. Granted he scores goals, but he is a terrible stick/puck handler, gets out of position at the worst possible times, and gets burned by speed.

He was the biggest liability in losing this series.

The franchise cannot continue to believe that your top defensmen must be a scorer. Fine to have a guy like that on the roster, but he can't be relied on as your best defensemen.

Didn't they rely on this type of defensemen prior to blowing up the roster? (Sergi Gonchar). I remember how he turned over the puck in overtime to the Penguins a few years back leading to a series loss.

The Pens don't use Gonchar as thier best defensemen, they use him for what he is...a powerplay specialist.

The change that needs to be made is MIKE GREEN.

Posted by: bdub_rach | April 29, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

The only tidbit I’ve taken solace in today is Wayne Gretzky’s playoff track record. Here’s a summary of his first five years in the NHL:

1979 -- Edmonton doesn’t make playoffs.
1980 -- Edmonton swept by Flyers in 1st round.
1981 -- Edmonton loses to Islanders in 2nd round (series was 4-2)
1982 -- Edmonton loses to LA in 1st round (series was 3-2)
1983 -- Edmonton swept by Islanders in Stanley Cup final
1984 -- Edmonton wins Stanley Cup (defeated Islanders 4-1)

http://www.hockey-reference.com/playoffs/NHL_1979.html

BTW: 1982 was a 111 point season for the Oilers and a 63 point season for the Kings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_Manchester

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_Oilers

Posted by: Fletch_F_Fletch | April 29, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

@konofish - the voice of reason, my friend. You're right - this is a great team with a strong nucleus.

A lot of Semin bashing out there, on the radio - I'll say it again: last 3 games he played as well as any washington forward but Ovechkin. Just look at the tape - he's busting his a$$, he's creating, he's getting quality shots, he's one of the very few forwards who even gets quality chances. His problem is his strangeness - he doesn't sell himself. He's not the problem.

Let's give some credit to the Habs - 41 blocked shots and 34(?) saves - almost 80 shots from the Caps. Negative hockey but it got them through.

Posted by: RedLitYogi | April 29, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

@chitownskinsfan

I'm with you, bro. Let's not destroy a great team. You're spot on about Edmonton and let's face it, even the very good Pittsburgh teams with Lemiuex and Jagr managed to win the cup only twice.

The Devils won at least twice, I think. I'd never want a Cup the way they won it. Winning by killing the game itself - not worth it. The Caps play positive, wild, attacking hockey, not corporate Exxon-Mobile hockey. I appreciate the wildness and this is my team...

Posted by: RedLitYogi | April 29, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Pittsburgh almost lost its team...until the city rallied around the ownership and the ever-growing fan-base supported their team in not only a time of desperation...but a down period as well. From a outsider's view...this bashing of the Capitals is absurd and quite frankly amusing at points. The PLAYOFFS are about match-ups...until BB takes time away from assanine comments and Geico commercials to build a team AND a gameplan suitable for a defensive-minded stretch of games...the Caps can be as great as they want in the regular season...yet will never have a summer with Stanley. Being a true Hockey fan, I will give credit when credit is due...and the Caps were phenomenal in the regular season and have brought about a rivalry with Pittsburgh that the NHL and the media-bed-partners are thoroughly reaping the benefits of. Sure, I would have loved to see the Caps move on to face the Pens in yet another agonying, stressful, 7 game series...but in order to do so...they first need to become a playoff team. As for the fanbase...I've been to a Caps game and was disappointed and rather unpleased with the amount of money that can easily push aside the real fans that end up frantically cheering for their team outside of the arena...albeit in a bar or in their living room. Also...this blog is about Hockey...let's not bring the Steelers QB into this. QB's can rack up all the stats they want...but until they lead their team to a championship, their career will be at a loss to the likes of not only the fanbase but also their peers. He's a QB on the field and a dirtball off and has lost all respect of a being in the home of the DEFENDING STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS. Hockey. History will be made. GodSpeed.

Posted by: crosbybeatsovie

All reasonable points- also testing to see if you are a true hockey fan or just a hater- but my point with the quarterback is the best players don't always win especially in team sports like Hockey and football. It is a true team effort. Crosby has better players around him. Still i'm not saying he isn't better though. With the fans- (i don't live in DC anymore- thank god for versus) - DC is so transient that it is difficult to have a strong fanbase like some of the smaller less transient towns especially with a sport like Hockey. I give the new Caps fans a little break since I'm glad there is a buzz now. It is a great sport to watch. As a long time suffering fan I just hope we keep pushing forward and learn from our mistakes. One day just maybe the stars will be aligned and the team will take advantage of it but you have to get there to have a chance.

Posted by: vryan | April 29, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

3 Keys to Post Season failure
- We we're out coached, Boudreau didn't seem to make any adjustments for the last 3 games of the series.

-Halak probably played the best hockey of his life.

- Some sports clichés still stand true. OFFENSE WINS GAMES, DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Mike Green is the most overrated player in the NHL and a sorry excuse for a defenseman. How a lousy defenseman is a Norris trophy nominee is beyond my comprehension. Green's dumb penalty in the offensive zone and weak defense in our own end cost us the game. I wish Boudreau could get over his Mike Green man-crush and see him for the terrible defenseman he his. I'm embarrassed to be a caps fan today.

Fire GMGM, Boudreau and trade Mike Green & Semin.

Posted by: jusspin | April 29, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Very valid - and I agree DC is transient...Pittsburgh being not. More of a nuclear city. Regardless, I am happy to see that Hockey is growing in popularity throughout the country...as long as NBC stays away from any contracts...(they do not permit Pittsburgh to broadcast the game live outside the arena on a large jumbotron...typically bringing another 3,000 fans to the playoff atmosphere in and around the arena).

Posted by: crosbybeatsovie | April 29, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

How can you say that Crosby has better players around him? Washington has been a 3-seed, 2-seed, 1-seed the last three playoffs. The Pens a 4-seed (all three playoffs). Crosby is the only Penguin in the top 20 in scoring. Washington has at least 4. Backs was 4th in the league in scoring... that's a pretty good compliment.

Posted by: stop_it | April 29, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

@ stop_it

goalie and defense and apparently coash. pittsburgh realizes the grind to win it so they don't play the full regular season to be the top seed. offensively you are correct but not overall.

Posted by: vryan | April 29, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

oh plus we play in a week division probably worth 10 more points easily.

Posted by: vryan | April 29, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Mcphee is not a great coach, just an average one. He had the highest scoreing team in the NHL, and his team could only score one goal in each of the last three games. You would think he could make the correct adjustments needed to win at least one of the final 3 games.

Posted by: ptnewton | April 29, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Is there any doubt now who the best player in hockey is????? SYDNEY CROSBY.

It isn't just that he is as (if not more) talented than OVI, he elevates his WHOLE team to play better. He has demonstrated it at EVERY level and continues to show what it means to wear the "C".

If OVI can learn to elevate his team to the next level, then the Caps will be a dominant force in the NHL. But, that's a BIG "if".

Posted by: sandpiper313 | April 29, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Green just looks... wrong out there in the playoffs, like there's some kind of problem. I've never been a fan of his, but his play in the regular season did seem to help his team most of the time. It made sense last year when it was reavealed he had been hurt. Then there was the thing about not having the right kind of stick. But it looks weirder than that, last year and this year. It almost seems like he's playing through post-concussion syndrome or an anxiety disorder, or something like that... something that's not about a limb or a muscle or tendons.

Posted by: S2MCDC | April 29, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

When Green got his second penalty I texted my friend that Green was going to cost the Caps this game. Sure enough in the third period, he decided to play the man instead of the puck and Montreal put the game out of reach. Green, game 7 is on you but the failure in the playoffs in on the entire organization up and down. Letting this series slip away was the lowest I have felt as a Caps fan in 25 years.

Posted by: madflava | April 29, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Rachel asked to explain why the goal was disallowed. This is rule taken directly from the offical rules of the NHL

69.3 Contact Inside the Goal Crease - If an attacking player initiates contact with a goalkeeper, incidental or otherwise, while the goalkeeper is in his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.

There is little doubt that under the rules the ref made the correct call. I have not read or heard one hockey analyst say the call was wrong. The Caps beef is that the violation, as Knuble admitted it was, has not been called all year. This is a bit of a strech as it is more accurate to say it has not been called consistently all year.

So if you are the ref and you see the violation what do you do? If you let it go, you are allowing a goal that under the rules is not a goal which is unfair to Montreal. If you call it, you are calling something that has been let go in other cases which is unfair to the Caps.

If you are going to allow goalie interference, why have a crease? If some goalie interference is ok, how much is too mch? Do you then allow Lapierre's goal to stand?

The contact looked incidental so the ref made the right call: no goal but no penalty. Where Washington has a legit beef is with the Lapierre play. It should have been no goal and minor penalty because the contact was more than incidental.

The goalie's crease should be sacrosanct. No contact inside the crease applied equally to every team.

Posted by: benny1121 | April 29, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I love it!

The "little" Cappies lose(choke again).

The "great" Crosby is 100 times better than Ovechkin.

Posted by: stephenwhelton | April 29, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

No contact inside the crease applied equally to every team. Sure. I agree. Apply it every time. And let's go back and apply that to Bret Hull, too. Give that cup back. And let's make sure the refs apply the rule the way it is written all the time, so that all the penalties given out when the defense checked the player into the goalie are taken back.

It's a BS rule, and it is applied at random times to random effects.

As for historic loss, it still isn't as bad as last year's game 7 loss to PIT.

Posted by: Blah-Blah-Blah | April 29, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I would like to thank the Washington Capitals for a season like none other, ever. For the most excitement this "non-hockey" town has ever seen, for that sea of red in an arena that sold out, game after game, 60 in a row (and counting. Better believe I'll be there next year!)

To Alex Ovechkin, the Platinum Lightnig Bolt Award as the most outrageous, creative and electrifying player on ice, anywhere.

To Alex Semin, the Golden Yo-yo Award, for his incredible handling of the puck, making opposing defensemen look like uncoordinated monkeys.

To Nicky Backstrom, the Silver Shadow Award, for his ability to take the puck end to end, zooming among the opposition like they were so many sticks on an obstacle course.

To Tomas Fleischmann, the Silver Mirror, for exceeding everyone's expectations by living up to his nickname and scoring one flashy goal after another -- especially those overtime killers. Preji Ti moc hezkou dovolenou, hochu, moc se tesim na pristi sezonu!

To David Steckel, the Silver Hockey Stick for his unbelievable ability to win face-off after face-off, and for his and his linemates' penchant for frustrating the opposition's top lines. Thank you Brads, Gordo and Walker!

To Jose Theodore, a half-sized hockey net and a five-foot wide hockey stick, because he played as if that were the dimensions of his equipment during that 17-3-1 streak.

To Jason Chimera, a statuette of a road-runner, for proving that a big man CAN be unbelievably fast and quick-footed on his skates.

And to Bruce Boudreau, a golden tongue for his uncanny ability to get the best out of the players. Any coach that can make Alex Semin play defense, and play it well, deserves the title of Chrysostomos.

To the 2009-2010 Capitals, a page in the all-time hockey history book, for all the records they set this year, not least of all that magnificent 14 game winning streak.

And to all those fans who don't appreciate what they witnessed this year and instead choose to cry and moan about an early exit -- a bucket of stale beer in which to drown yourselves. Here's hoping you give up your season tickets for next year, so I get the chance to improve my seats.

THANK YOU CAPS! SEE YOU NEXT YEAR!

Posted by: cymbeline2 | April 29, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

No team shall be on a perpetual ascendant trend, ever. There’ll be ups and downs.
Indeed “offense wins games, defense wins championships”
Indeed “the Caps play positive, wild, attacking hockey”
Indeed “the Caps roster is talented enough for a cup (or two or three), but their approach to the playoffs needs to fundamentally change.”
Indeed “the Caps have all the ingredients of a great regular season hockey club. But they still lack the one ingredient that's absolutely essential for success in the Stanley Cup playoffs: mental toughness”
I fully agree, “Montreal played negative hockey but played it very, very well.” They successfully dynamited the Caps game. That’s it. It’s a lesson to be learned. Mistakes to be avoided in the future.
I wake up at 2am to see their games. Terribly disappointing the final result, without any doubt. But there were extraordinary moments as well. I spent a couple of hours to read the comments. There were just a very few of them really pertinent and well reasoned. Most of them just inflamed passion and disapproval. A true fan is a true fan either his/her team is a winner or not.
And probably you never really thought how lucky you are to see the Caps live, just in front of your eyes

An overseas fan

Posted by: capsfan819 | April 29, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

@cymbeline2: The point of the regular season is to prepare you for the playoffs. Once they start, all other achievements are thrown out. We have not "arrived". You stated, "To the 2009-2010 Capitals, a page in the all-time hockey history book, for all the records they set this year, not least of all that magnificent 14 game winning streak." To everyone else who isn't blinded by red, they are calling this the most disappointing knockout EVER. Also, that 14 game winning streak is not a record. Maybe we can win 18 in a row next year and then get knocked out in the first round... at least we will have the streak.

Posted by: stop_it | April 29, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

@stop_it: Those who are calling this the most disappointing knockout EVER have very short memories. The Caps are NOT the first team to go up 3-1 and lose in 7, nor the last. As a matter of fact, this is the second time for the Caps. In 1992, they went up 3-1 on Pittsburgh and lost the series 3-4. I know, I was there. And do you remember what happened to San Jose last year?

As far as the 14 game streak is concerned, it is a record for the Caps. Along with a number of other records they set this year.

I am a long, long time fan. And I choose to focus on the positives, of which there were MANY. I've been with the Caps through thick and thin, the good seasons and the bad, for 25 years. And thus I know that the season we just witnessed is a rare thing indeed. My comments were meant for those fair-weather fans - and short-sighted writers -- who are ready to trade the heart of the team because they did not deliver the Cup in their first season as a dominant team.

As for your postulation that the season --all 82 games of it --is but preparation for the run to the cup -- do you really think so? If everyone agrees with you on that one, the League should pretty much go ahead and shrink back down to 6 teams, because that's about how many teams have a real chance at the prize, year in, year out.

Why do you suppose the other 24 teams show up to play? Simple: for the love of the game. This is not about prizes, it's about the game. And anyone who thinks otherwise would do well to re-evaluate their general philosophy of life. Because it's not really about the final reward, it's about how you get there.

Posted by: cymbeline2 | April 29, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope these guys play golf better than they play hockey...after they scrape their jocks off the ice maybe they could be shipped down to the minors where they belong....I am so tired of watching these guys collapse...I feel like every game I watched them play this year was a waste of my life. Losers in every sense of the word!

Posted by: Sammy10 | April 29, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

@cymbeline2: That may be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read on this blog. This is professional sports. The absolute goal of any season, in any sport is to win the Championship. This is philosophical or psychological BS babble. These men are paid to win titles, not have good regular seasons and bow out in round 1.
They have been a dominant team for the past three years, as indicated by their high seeding. It is the arrogance of this team, that is grinding fans the wrong way.
A. Corvo - we just need to play average defense to win. Really- how'd that work.
B. Ovechkin on Umberger's comments - We'll see how we do in the playoffs. Yes, yes we will
C. Semin on Crosby - What's so special about him? You can promote anyone and make them big. How about showing up for the playoffs before ever opening your mouth again!
In 5 years noone will remember this regular season. It will be, "oh yeah, (whoever) won the Cup." And if anything, "That's the year of the EPIC failure of the Caps.
Why don't you keep "Rocking the Red" and keep looking at this team through your scarlet glasses, and let the rest of us who want championships vent on this collapse.

Posted by: stop_it | April 30, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

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