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Caps concerned about spread of swine flu

As I mentioned in an earlier post, Quintin Laing has been diagnosed with swine flu. A team spokesman said the left wing is resting at home, but is quarantined away from his wife and two infant sons.

As of this morning, no one on the Capitals -- player or coach -- is exhibiting symptoms of swine flu, according to the team. Laing's roommate on the road, Tyler Sloan, said he's taking extra precautions -- washing his hands frequently and taking antiviral drug Tamiflu -- but isn't overly concerned about getting sick.

Laing is at least the third NHL player to be diagnosed with the H1N1 virus, according to the Caps.

"After I got the flu shot [two weeks ago] I didn't feel well," Sloan said. "But it was a 24-hour thing. I'm not too worried about it. I'm pretty aware about it. I've been getting emails from friends and family about things to do not to get it."

Sloan added: "I was concerned for Quintin and his family because he's got two boys and one is under the age of two. Everything's okay now. I texted him and he's doing okay."

Laing arrived for the morning skate Tuesday morning and went to see the team's head athletic trainer, Greg Smith, who promptly recognized the symptoms and sent him to a doctor. Although Laing has not taken the test for H1N1, the doctor diagnosed him with swine flu based on the symptoms, a team spokesman said.

"He's currently at home and is isolated," Capitals spokesman Nate Ewell said. "The proper terminology is that he was diagnosed but not tested. He was tested for common flu, seasonal flu. That turned up negative, but he was showing symptoms for swine flu, so he's being treated as such. That's common because the test for H1N1 is cost prohibitive."

Ewell said Laing will not return to the team until he's symptom free.

In the meantime, the Caps are taking steps to prevent the spread of swine flu. Smith held a meeting with the players and coaches before today's practice to outline the symptoms -- fever over 101 degrees, body aches, sore throat and congestion and coughing -- and urged them to see the team's medical staff immediately if they begin to feel unwell.

Captain Chris Clark said the team has put hand sanitizer bottles around the practice facility and players are being asked to wash their hands more frequently. Before reporters were admitted to the Caps' locker room after last night's 4-2 victory over the Flyers, a security guard offered hand sanitizer.

The players were also offered flu shots recently. Most took one, though some did not. Brooks Laich said he opted not to have the shot.

"All we can do is if someone gets a symptom, send him home and keep him away," Coach Bruce Boudreau said. "As soon as [Laing] came in and had three of the four symptoms, [Smith] sent him to the doctor and we isolated him away from us."

Boudreau also said he plans to talk to his players to avoid shaking hands when greeting people.

It's been a rough eight months for Laing, who suffered a torn spleen in his only game with the Caps last season.

"He's a hard-luck guy," Boudreau said. "But one thing about Quintin is he'll be battling back. ... He said, 'Hey I'm fine. I can play.' But we're being overly cautious. We don't want him in the hotel, with guys, traveling on the plane. Because we don't want this to catch on."

Some other notes:

*Tomas Fleischmann has returned from his conditioning stint in Hershey, but has not been put on the active roster yet. Boudreau said the team will likely have to make a roster move to accommodate him.

*Boyd Gordon (sore back) did not return to practice as expected today.

*Eric Fehr (ribs) practiced but is still day-to-day after missing last night's game.

*Alexandre Giroux has been sent back to Hershey.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  October 28, 2009; 1:13 PM ET
 
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I wish Giroux could stay with the Caps.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | October 28, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

get well soon and stay at home - that's the last thing we need is a sick locker room!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 28, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Does that mean another roster move in addition to Giroux being sent to Hershey?

Somehow I got this picture in my head of the players rubbing their gloves together to spread the sanitizer.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

CodePoetry wrote: "The only thing that can help against bacteria, viruses, even radiation, is to wash your hands, flushing the bad stuff down the toilet."

CodePoetry: Don't know how you do it, but I've never once used the toilet to wash my hands. I'm game for anything if it works though.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

From prev thread:

I don't think hand sanitizers work against viruses. In fact they don't even kill all bacterias. It's a joke that the team put hand sanitizers. The only thing that can help against bacteria, viruses, even radiation, is to wash your hands, flushing the bad stuff down the toilet.

As of Semin, he would be the first case of H1N1 in the NHL. Apparently the team didn't want that publicity. They only declared Laing with H1N1 after two cases already reported.


Now, Laing might not have H1N1, the team just followed the suit of two other NHL teams.

Tarik, can you ask Semin in broken Russian if he had a sore throat?

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Ok, sink :)

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Hand sanitizer/washing hands is cool and all, but what will they do with everyone's gear?

Posted by: superpaqman | October 28, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

http://www.cdc.gov/Flu/keyfacts.htm

Symptoms of seasonal flu include: fever (often high), headache, extreme tiredness, dry cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, muscle aches.
Stomach symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, also can occur but are more common in children than adults.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/guidance_homecare.htm

2009 H1N1 flu symptoms: fever, cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. Some people may also have vomiting and diarrhea. People may be infected with the flu, including 2009 H1N1, and have respiratory symptoms without a fever.

Same difference... Until the test is done, you can't declare that Laing has H1N1 !

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The main thing is flushing H1N1 off your hands/skin and if you got sick, off your body system. For the latter drink as much water as you possibly can, flushing virus it down the toilet :)

Semin was probably using Stoli shots as well....

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Hand sanitizer/washing hands is cool and all, but what will they do with everyone's gear?

Posted by: superpaqman | October 28, 2009 1:50 PM

It sounds like, according to Code Poetry, you want to wash all the gear in the toilet. :)

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Ovie: "What is this!? Why are my skates in toilet?!"
Semin: "Coach told us we had to wash everything."
Ovie: "But...but...in toilet? And...and...what's Backie doing?"
Semin: "Oh, he's washing your jock strap."

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Gear must be burned :)

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

how funny a thought...

Backie knelt over the throne wringing out Ovie's jock...the poor little Swede...he'd follow Ovie into hell if he asked...

Posted by: netminder71 | October 28, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The main hini symptom is when you eat like pig and don't wash your hands :)

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I have been washing my hands in the toilet for years. It's really great. Once you lather up just put your hands in there and flush. The spinning water washes all the soap off.

Posted by: pkendrick | October 28, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Hand sanitizer will work as long as it alchohol based. Alchohol kills microorganisms instantly. The other stuff that uses an anti-microbal residue in a suspension gel is useless against nearly all resilient pathogens. Influenza, in all strains, is a highly resilient pathogen.

As far as the gear goes, washing it with soap will work just fine.

Posted by: akmzrazor | October 28, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Gaborik is out for the Rags....Cant say everyone "told ya so."

Posted by: SA-Town | October 28, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, I have plenty of alcohol. I'll just put my hands over a big bowl and then have someone pour the beer over my hands. Then of course since the beer has killed the germs I can lift the bowl and drink the beer. It will kinda feel like in a very small way I'm guzzling from the Cup. I will doubtless have the urge often to "wash up" and then drink from Lord Stanley's bowl.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Hand sanitizer will work as long as it alchohol based. Alchohol kills microorganisms instantly.

Posted by: akmzrazor | October 28, 2009 2:25 PM


No, not really. The only stuff that kills all microorganisms instantly would also wreck your skin (e.g. bleach). Anyways, influenza is a virus, which is different. Soap and water is the best protection. It doesn't kill anything but it literally washes away a very large percentage of the viruses and bacteria present on your hands.

Posted by: butcherbaker | October 28, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

cmasisak22: Officially, Quintin Laing has been diagnosed with swine flu. He was tested for "seasonal flu" and doesn't have it, but he has H1N1 symptoms.

So if he doesn't have seasonal flu, he has H1N1? We need Dr. Gregory House to solve it

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1, sounds like those prickly pear margaritas last night really freed your imagination. I have plenty of tequila--where do I get the prickly pear juice to go with it?

Get better soon, Q. (Maybe you ought to have a prickly pear margarita too.)

Posted by: wocoliz | October 28, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

be prepared to see other guys on the Caps and around pro leagues missing time w/ this flu. it is agressive and a bit more symptom-driven than the regular flu...

plus...folks who are around pro teams are "in close proximity" to each other. locker rooms, shared hotel rooms, chartered flights...all closed quarter areas where virus can spread...

it will happen, we just have to hope they take extra precautions, drink lots of liquids, wash hands, not share stuff, and keep mike green away from cheap hookers.

Posted by: netminder71 | October 28, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

http://www.desertusa.com/magoct97/oct_pa/du_prkpear.html

There is a link to order the stuff. Very healthy.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, tominfl1! (Love the notion of sterilizing the inside AND the outside.) ;-)

Posted by: wocoliz | October 28, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

CDC says if you DON'T have access to water and soap, use alcohol-based hand sanitizers.

If you do, washing the hands is the best because it will wash away everything: bacteria, viruses, radiation, you name it.

But a study published in this month's issue of the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases found that at least one brand of sanitizer found on store shelves, as well as some recipes for homemade versions circulating on Web sites about crafts or directed at parents, contain significantly less than the 60 percent minimum alcohol concentration that health officials deem necessary to kill most harmful bacteria and viruses.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/21/health/21cons.html?_r=1
"What this should say to the consumer is that they need to look carefully at the label before they buy any of these products," said Elaine Larson, professor of pharmaceutical and therapeutic research at Columbia's nursing school. "Check the bottle for active ingredients. It might say ethyl alcohol, ethanol, isopropanol or some other variation, and those are all fine. But make sure that whichever of those alcohols is listed, its concentration is between 60 and 95 percent. Less than that isn't enough."

How much alcohol whiskey has?

In the United States, the proof of an alcoholic beverage is twice its alcohol content expressed as percentage by volume at 60°F. So an 80-proof whiskey is 40% alcohol.

I doubt that Caps team is using hand sanitizers that have more alcohol than whiskey or vodka.

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

wow a flu blog now- this is fun.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 28, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

So you need a sanitizer with 95% of alcohol?

Good luck.

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

i dont want this to sound bad, but of all the guys i think of who would be most likely to get the swine flu, it would be Q. something about the guy and the dirty work he does on the ice just makes it sound obvious that he would catch something called swine flu. i imagine he's the guy w/ the smelliest equipment too. just a guess. hope he gets well soon!!

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 28, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

My doctor said that the seasonal flu isn't even around yet so if you get sick right now chances are it's the swine flu. This is straight from his mouth, don't shoot the messenger. The media has so overhyped this H1N1 thing that it's ridiculous, people die from the flu EVERY year, this just happens to be a different strain, so what!!??

Posted by: PhilR | October 28, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Alcohol doesn't cut through grime well, so dirt, blood, feces or other body fluids or soil must be wiped or washed away first, if the alcohol in the sanitizer is to be effective. In such cases, hand washing with soap and water is advised.

from the same NYT article

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Code Poetry: See, I'm just an idiot and I figured out the liquor cabinet was the best place to go w/o any research at all.

wocoliz: 12 oz can limeaid; 20 oz water; 8 oz tequila; 2 oz grand marnier; 4 oz triple sec; 2 oz prickly pear cactus syrup. Put it in the freezer (plastic container) for long enough to get slushy. Keep in freezer between pourings.

The prickly pear syrup is very healthy. You don't need much in any recipe. Probably a very good source of vit C to prevent cold and sickness.

Best of all - it's "Capitals" red!

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

and allow me to translate nate ewells comments into something redskins fans would understand:

"Quentin Lange in fine and healty," redskins spokesman dave donohue said,"if it wasnt for the constant barrage of articles in the washington post about swine flu, quentin would have played last night. The constant and mean spirited articles in the post about H1N1 has resulted in quentin feeling sick and it's because of the post's vendetta against the swine flu that we gave up 2 power play goals last night."

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 28, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

people die from the flu EVERY year

True, but in h1n1 case young people with perfect immune system die within 48 hours.

Those who die from seasonal flu are mostly older people...

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

PhilR: I think I read that 36,000 people die every year, on average, in the US from the flu.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Brooks Laich doesn't *need* the flu shot, as Brooks Laich can scare the H1N1 virus away with a glare...

Posted by: MikeL-Caps911 | October 28, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

ha -it is defintely october hockey season.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 28, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1, thanks for the recipe. I have the page open now and was wondering if you used the syrup or the nectar. I had prickly pear candy years ago when I was living in the Southwest and enjoyed it, so I imagine the margarita version is good too.

lylewimbledon, we could always make it a best-alcoholic-drinks-to-prevent-the-flu thread instead.

MikeL, thanks for the laugh!

That said, any kind of flu is no joke, and we should all try to be as careful as we can not to catch or spread the virus.

Posted by: wocoliz | October 28, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

TORONTO - Canadian hockey associations are urging players to avoid sharing water bottles to avoid the spread of swine flu.
They say the flu death of a 13-year-old player earlier this week has hammered that message home.

Tony Foresi, president of Alliance Hockey, says it's essential to educate players, coaches and parents about the dangers of sharing personal items.

Foresi says his organization, which represents 20 Ontario minor league teams with more than 31,000 members, is also looking at whether to recommend against the traditional handshakes before and after games in favour of some other way of showing sportsmanship.

Experts say the risk of spreading the swine flu from shared water bottles is huge.

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

It is the syrup. I want to say it was like $15 for two 13.5 oz bottles.

Wife also bought three jars of the prickly pear jam. Very expensive - like $5 for 3 oz. We had shrimp cocktail w/the jam at Mesa Verde Nat'l Park back in June and that's what kicked off the interest.

Posted by: tominfl1 | October 28, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for all the great info. I'm definitely ready to order some of the syrup at least. I'll let you know what I think!

Posted by: wocoliz | October 28, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I just saw something called Prickly Pear Hangover Terminator on the site. Maybe I'd better order some of that too! ;-)

Posted by: wocoliz | October 28, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

CodePoetry - in a related story I heard they will be transitioning from the traditional handshake to a more contemporary fist or forearm bump. These narrowly beat out OV and Nicky's post game jumping shoulder bump

Posted by: superpaqman | October 28, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I just saw something called the boxscore from last night's game. Giroux played 8:20 and didn't have a single shot-on.

Why would we NOT turn him back over to Candyland?

This guy is just going to be one of those career minor leaguers.

He can't get it done up here. I bet we could get a real NHL defenseman for him, Braden Holtby, and Chris Clark.

Posted by: large23220 | October 28, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

@large

OMG - are you talking hockey? strange- this turned into the CDC blog

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 28, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Biggest epidemic is guys not washing their hands after using the facilities.
Geebus, in my Fortune 100 financial company, there are execs doing that crap - no pun intended.
I'm doing what trump does, no touching.

Posted by: Rocc00 | October 28, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Get well Quintin! My older son just got over it, younger one got the swine flu shot. He had neck pain and stiffness, high fever, headache, sore throat, chills,coughing, and he was delirious. He took Tamiflu for 5 days, and he is back at school. He has asthma too, so it wasn't as bad as I anticipated it to be. I sure hope the rest of the team doesn't get it! Take care!

Posted by: ocracokemonkey | October 28, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

@Large23220: Giroux's stats for the Caps say he played 3 games and got one goal. I don't think that makes him horrible.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | October 28, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I need a favor...Can anyone make a 2 1/2 men photoshop of Mario, Bettman and Crosby as the little guy?

Posted by: SA-Town | October 28, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised that cstanton1 hasn't chimed in and said how he could've prevented the spread of swine flu.

Posted by: joek443 | October 28, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

@joek443

That is the funniest thing written all day!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 28, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

The casualty list keeps growing in Oil country. First came Ales Hemsky and Ladislav Smid, and then Gilbert Brule and Mike Comrie.

Hemsky missed the Oilers' 5-2 victory over the Wild on October 16, but logged 19:16 of ice time against the Canucks the following Monday, while Smid missed a couple of days before returning to the lineup in the Oilers' 6-4 win over the Blue Jackets last Thursday.

Centres Gilbert Brule and Mike Comrie are the latest Oilers to be struck with the flu. Both missed last weekend's trip to Calgary, but are expected back this evening when the Oilers host the Avalanche.

"I was bed-ridden and achy everywhere," Brule explained of the symptoms. "I was really dehydrated. I had headaches and a high fever. It was a tough few days but I'm glad to be back with the team now."

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Mike Comry must NOT shake hands with Hillary Duff

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised that cstanton1 hasn't chimed in and said how he could've prevented the spread of swine flu.

Posted by: joek443 | October 28, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

i'm more surprised that cheef hasn't blamed GMGM for this outbreak. i'm sure if he hadnt fired the old equipment manager, things would have been cleaner and Q wouldnt have gotten sick.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile the team just got on the plane to escape from HINI...

GreenLife52: Getting on the jet to fly to Hotlanta. Could use a nap.

Posted by: CodePoetry | October 28, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I need 4 tickets for the game against the Devils on December 26. If anyone out there has 4 to sell, please contact - zmega@rstarmail.com.

Posted by: zmega | October 28, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I think all the players should be checked to see if anyone has grown a curly tail. I volunteer.

Posted by: jerseygirl15 | October 28, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

The NHL is debating whether to ban "face washes" during scrums until the flu eases in the Spring.

Posted by: Bartolo1 | October 28, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I need 4 tickets for the game against the Devils on December 26. If anyone out there has 4 to sell, please contact - zmega@rstarmail.com.

Posted by: zmega | October 28, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

The lead article on Washington Post discusses the shortfall of Tamiflu and now to read that two capitals are being treated is sickening. They are each taking medication that could be used to 4 children who are actually at risk. They are depriving 8 children of medication. This is a gross misuse of medication for people who are not at-risk. As an organization that pretends to care about the community this proves that to be wrong

Posted by: SteveKbomb | October 28, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

@stevekbomb--only one Caps player reported taking Tamiflu--you are making assumptions that Laing is also taking it. The article only states that he is "isolated" away from the team and his family--he has young children. Before getting on your high-horse, read the article carefully.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | October 28, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

BTW I believe Sloan and Laing were roommates. If true, then Sloan was most likely exposed.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | October 28, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Must say though I've really enjoyed reading everyone's comments--it's always great after a win.

I have a question for those more knowledgeable than I about the subtleties of hockey--I've read that Poti played a great game and I've read that Poti was terrible. I'm sure the truth is somewhere between, but why the disparity in Poti's contribution to the game last night? Where was he good and where was he terrible? Asset or liability?

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | October 28, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

As for Poti, he was plus 1 for the game, and green was a plus 3. Schultz and SMorrison were also a plus 1 and Juice was even.
Sure, Poti was called for the Penalty Shot and he appeared to be getting beat to the puck at times but I think that was more based on BB's game plan, which was more stressed for zone coverage of the slot.
Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | October 28, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

How did his NHL teammate get the vaccine? Isn't it being prioritized to young children? Aren't seniors being turned away by the death panel squads? How did a healthy athlete move to the front of the line?

Posted by: georgejones5 | October 28, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Wash your hands white men!

Posted by: Rocc00 | October 28, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

@georgejones5--take your politics to another board--this is a HOCKEY board. I know of many healthy not at risk people in my neighborhood who got tamiflu and the swine flu vaccination because it's available to the military but not at my son's doctors office. So we are unprotected. But I'm not making accusations or ranting--people get it when they can. For all we know we got the Tamiflu from his doctor in Canada. He was most likely exposed given that he was the roommate of the player who has been diagnosed. Go away.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | October 29, 2009 8:20 AM | Report abuse

I meant HE got the Tamiflue from his doctor in Canada.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | October 29, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

calm down everyone. Sloan did NOT get the H1N1 vaccine above children and the elderly. It says he got Tamiflu. Tamiflu is NOT the h1N1 vaccine. It's a TREATMENT that has been used for seasonal flu so may or may not work for swine flu. You can get it, too, georgejones. Sounds like the team got the chance to get SEASONAL flu shots and some (like Laich)preferred to roll the dice. (NOT a good idea, especially if you're sharing water bottles!!)

Posted by: jerseygirl15 | October 29, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Since Schred Ex Field won't allow signs, I'm bringing my "Sell the Skins to Ted" sign to the Caps game tomorrow night.

Posted by: cjzimm | October 29, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

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