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Caps Make More Cuts

The Caps have cut defensemen John Carlson and Patrick McNeill and forwards Francois Bouchard, Steve Pinizzotto and Andrew Joudrey and goaltender Jason Bacashihua. All of the players were reassigned to Hershey.

Cutting Carlson with three games to go in the preseason comes as somewhat of a surprise. But with 10 other defensemen with at least some NHL experience in camp -- and many of them playing well -- the odds of Carlson sticking around were getting longer by the day.

That leaves the Caps with a total of 36 players in camp (three goalies, 10 defensemen and 23 forwards.)

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  September 22, 2009; 2:59 PM ET
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Carlson gone = Alzner set to make team it looks like

Posted by: BondraMan | September 22, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Carlson gone = bad move

Posted by: hockymn22 | September 22, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Is the team planning on carrying only seven defensemen on the regular roster? If so, then Alzner will only make it if he can displace one of the regulars from last season. Personally I (along with many others, I'm sure) would love to see Alzner replace Schultz, but for some reason Boudreau and McPhee seem to really like Schultz, so I'm not optimistic about Alzner getting significant playing time unless and until someone else gets hurt. I'd be thrilled to be proven wrong, though!

Posted by: capsfan26 | September 22, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Salary cap will be an issue keeping Alzner in DC. Something's gonna have to give.

Posted by: Greg S. | September 22, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Come on Alzner - replace Sharmin Shultz ASAP!

Posted by: Jaymagz | September 22, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Carlson gone does not at all equal Alzner making the team. In fact, Alzner will prob. join him at Hershey. If you have been reading anything this summer (and especially the past month) BB has been saying there are already 7 nhl d-men on the roster and unless someone gets traded or hurt, there is (unfortunately) no room for King Karl.

ALSO, for those of you who think Carlson should be on the team, 1) he's 19. Sending him down for another year will only help him develop. 2) He only played a month at Hershey because he spent the year at the ECHL until their season was over. i.e. no one makes the jump from
echl to nhl.

(ps- capsfan and greg are right)

Posted by: ThatGuy2 | September 22, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I think they are letting Alzner stay longer than others just so he feels like he lasted a little longer. Ultimately, due to the logjam, he's going to have to probably wait another year or until a trade is made.

Posted by: tmac2yao | September 22, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Carlson was in junior, not the ECHL.

Posted by: thiazzi | September 22, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Surprised about Carlson, thought he'd be cut in one of the last days. My guess is they want him to get as much time in Hershey camp as possible, since he will be a big part of that team this year.

Posted by: GoCaps08 | September 22, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

good move carlson needs time in hershey best thing for young dman left them learn in ahl dont rush him top 6 will probally be green morrisonn poti jurcina pothier erskine i may be wrong on that 6 but that what i think would be best 6 as of now

Posted by: baltraven52 | September 22, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

what happened to brandon sugden i know he is on hershey contract i thought he was a invite

Posted by: baltraven52 | September 22, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind Carlson spending time and gaining experience in Hershey. It's the idea of keeping Schultz rather than Alzner on the Caps' regular roster that I find utterly confounding.

Posted by: capsfan26 | September 22, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Carlson played [and lit it up] in Juniors last year, not the coast. And the reason JS keeps getting chances is because GMGM drafted him in the 1st round, and they don't want to admit how badly he screwed up [a move BB had nothing to do with, btw].

Posted by: govtimbo | September 22, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

If you think Schultz is on the team only to protect GMGM's reputation as a talent scout, how do you explain them cutting Little Gus early and even implying he may have to go back to Sweden because he may not currently be good enough to make the Bears team?

Posted by: zmega | September 22, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Boys and girls: Jeff Schultz is NOT a good player to cut.

1) His cap hit his lower than Alzner's.
2) He's started playing solid, making hits (four last game), taking shots (second only to Ovechkin last game), and being a good all-around defenseman.
3) He's young, and still developing as a defenseman, and if we send him elsewhere, I fully believe that when he is fully developed, it will bite us someplace very unpleasant.

Y'all need to quit thinking in terms of size = hits. You can be a good positional defenseman and not hit anyone, ever, and still do your job invisibly, which is what a good defenseman does.

If we want to keep Alzner up (and I don't - I think he needs another year in Hershey to fix some of the obvious "deer in the headlights" issues we've been seeing with him, as well as some of the "overplaying" issues), we will need to offload a larger salary. Shaone Morrisonn comes to mind as a larger salary, but again - he's better than Alzner at the moment.

Boudreau has said that Alzner needs to "wow" him to make the team. About the only "wow" I've seen from Alzner is, "WOW, he overplayed that, and look what it got us. A game-winning goal. For the other team." Alzner needs to grow his game some more, and Hershey is a safer place to have him do that than on the Caps.

Posted by: irockthered | September 22, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

@hockymn22...Carlson gone is NOT a bad move..he was awful last night--turned the puck over in his zone AND jumped on the ice too soon resulting in a too many men penalty....he'll be here soon enough--but he needs a lot of seasoning in Hershey...Alzner wasn't great either--Schultz *gulp* was better than both of them--never thought I'd say Schultz was better than someone--but he was...

Posted by: R617 | September 22, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

irockthered: "3) He's young, and still developing as a defenseman, and if we send him elsewhere, I fully believe that when he is fully developed, it will bite us someplace very unpleasant."

What? Like the back of a Volkswagon?

/i keed

Posted by: evenadog | September 22, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"Jeff Schultz is NOT a good player to cut."


Mallrats is one of the best ever. Although, Fletch is right up there for me as well.

Posted by: Fro_ | September 22, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

If Carlson or Alzner are sooo good - let them prove it. No entitlement or foodstamps in the Caps camp.

Posted by: Rocc00 | September 22, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

IRockRed: Y'all need to quit thinking in terms of size = hits. You can be a good positional defenseman and not hit anyone, ever, and still do your job invisibly, which is what a good defenseman does.

BS. How many good defensemen can you name who never hit anyone?

The Caps had one - Calle

who else in the nhl never had to hit anyone and was a good defenseman? You don't see any situations where a defenseman (even a nonphysical one) NEEDS to make body contact?

Posted by: cstanton1 | September 22, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Am I wrong, but Ray Bourque was never known for big hits. Lidstrom has never been known for big hits. Brian Leetch was never known for big hits. Even Bobby Orr was NEVER KNOWN for big hits.

You don't have to hit someone if you already picked their pocket.

Posted by: tominfl1 | September 22, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Other than Chara last year, the last 6 Norris Trophy winners registered fewer than 30 hits (I think its actually 27) in a full season.

Hits are nice but if you are hitting then who is scooping up the puck?

Posted by: JSchon | September 23, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Ok, we NEED to get Alzner some NHL playing time ASAP. He has spent enough time in Hershey and before we know it his contract is going to be up and he will sign with another team that will give him NHL time. We cannot afford to miss out on this kid.

Posted by: Kevin9149 | September 23, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

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