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Caps: Ovechkin is week to week

The Caps just sent out the following release, identifying Alex Ovechkin's injury as an upper-body strain and changing his status from day to day to a more ominous week to week:

Washington Capitals left wing Alex Ovechkin suffered an upper-body strain in Sunday evening's game against the Columbus Blue Jackets and his status is week-to-week, the team determined Monday.
Ovechkin, the NHL leader in points (23) and goals (14) and the league's Second Star of the Month for October, is expected to miss the fifth game of his five-year career on Wednesday at New Jersey. He has only missed two games due to injury in his first four seasons.
"We have to buckle down," head coach Bruce Boudreau said earlier Monday. "A goal a game he scores, so we got to play better defense and cannot allow four or five goals a game. You have to win 3-1 and 2-1 and if you get lucky sometimes make it a 4-2 game. I think we have enough character players who understand what we will have to do without Alex."
Ovechkin played just 7:43 of Sunday's overtime loss to Columbus and was held without a point for just the third time this year. He was examined and treated by the team's medical staff and underwent an MRI exam on Monday.
The two-time reigning most valuable player will travel with the Capitals this week to continue to receive medical treatment.

By Lindsay Applebaum  |  November 2, 2009; 5:05 PM ET
 
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Now we see what the boys can REALLY do.

Posted by: irockthered | November 2, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Not the Machine. All this means is that I expect him to miss this week's games and play next week. More like "week" and he's back.

Machine don't brreak!

Posted by: saintex | November 2, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

this is a good test of McPhee's roster. We'll see exactly how much this team needs to rely on a lottery pick.

Posted by: cstanton1 | November 2, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"We have to buckle down," head coach Bruce Boudreau said earlier Monday. "A goal a game he scores, so we got to play better defense and cannot allow four or five goals a game. You have to win 3-1 and 2-1 and if you get lucky sometimes make it a 4-2 game. I think we have enough character players who understand what we will have to do without Alex."

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hey Bruce, this isn't a bad philosophy to adopt even WITH a healthy Ovechkin.

Posted by: cstanton1 | November 2, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"hey Bruce, this isn't a bad philosophy to adopt even WITH a healthy Ovechkin."

I 100% agree.

The Caps defense is sorely lacking. I've had a hard time blaming the goalies when there isn't anyone clearing anoybody out in front of the net and you're leaving those guys on an island.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | November 2, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Ouch!!

Bad day in Caps Land. Ovi out on a week to week basis and Semin may not be coming back (as Pierre Lebrun reports that contract negotiations are not going well.)

If Semin is good for us the next few weeks, will he be more likely to stay with us? (Please stay, Sasha.) And will all the Semin haters finally shut up?

So who do we call up from Hershey? Will Boyd Gordon go on LTIR (retroactive to whenever he got hurt). When does Fehr come back?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: gocaps01 | November 2, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Next year's plans. Let Pothier walk so that we can clear out space in the lineup for Alzner and Carlson. Maybe trade Poti for picks.

Theo isn't worth $4 million per year so let him walk.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I blame Dan Snyder.

Posted by: doogiex | November 2, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't get why people keep talking about trades when Ovi's status just became more ominous. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Ovi is HURT! That's a lot more important than next year's salary cap space.

Posted by: ralph4100 | November 2, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Memo to Verizon Center personnel.

Do not, repeat do not EVER again play "The Hockey Song". Every time they play "The Hockey Song" in games I've gone to, they've lost. This is true in games they were leading at the time -- like Sunday's game and the NJ game and at least one game last year.

(Yes, I know I'm being ridiculously superstitious but I've never yet been to a Caps game where they played "The Hockey Song" and won.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Flash's return is timely, as is his "flash"; Laich's finding the back of the net is timely too; Aucoin will stay with us for a while; Semin is due. We have the offensive firepower to pot more than two goals a game (and many more).

This is a great opportunity to emphasize team D. Yes, our D-men could have played a lot tougher and harder the last couple of games but our best games have come when our forwards are getting back to check. It happened in Boston and again against San Jose. This is a good opportunity.

I assume this is Ovi's shoulder -- those injuries can be persistent. Ovi should take his time, get the right phys therapy, and rest. In the meantime, this is not a bad time for this to happen at all.

Posted by: Sonyask | November 2, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of in-game stuff, are they not allowed to play the Unleash the Fury piece anymore? I have just noticed that they have not played it at the last several home games I went to (in fact am not even sure I have heard it at all).

Posted by: Kim-3 | November 2, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

@Kim-3 - They play it every couple'a games.

Posted by: irockthered | November 2, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

@Kim
UNLEASH THE FURY...i heard it the other day

Trade Ovechkin for a netminder.

Posted by: TottenhamCaps | November 2, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Good. I was afraid they had stopped because of a copyright thing.

Posted by: Kim-3 | November 2, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: gocaps01 | November 2, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Let Ovie take his time and get this behind him. The team needs to adopt a tighter brand of hockey, the type that wins playoff games. This may be what they need to inspire that. I am optimistic that this will be a positive turning point for this team. Go Caps!

Posted by: real8 | November 2, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

@real8 -- you and I are in agreement. This is an opportunity

Posted by: Sonyask | November 2, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

is GMGM gonna wait till someone goes after Green's knees before he gets a real goon on the team???

Posted by: joek443 | November 2, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

@joek443 - Shut up.

Posted by: irockthered | November 2, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

@IRTR -- thank you.

Posted by: Sonyask | November 2, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

What is this about Semin;s negotiations not going well. Could someone provide a link? I can't believe that it's serious, does anyone?

Posted by: caraveli | November 2, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

also what kinda captain is Chris Clark?

Dale Hunter would have made sure someone answered for the hit on OV and everyone understood what would happen if they went after their superstar.

Posted by: joek443 | November 2, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Get well soon OV. I hope he doesn't rush himself back - he won't be as effective if he can't hit or be hit.

Posted by: Raber | November 2, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

@real8

Agree. Let's not rush Ovi into the New Jersey game. Don't want him permanently injured.

Hope that Semin can get hot again. He was hot last October when Ovi was slumping.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

joek443:
it is not a goon that is needed. brash was a goon because his skills no longer matched what was needed on the ice. this team doesn't need a goon, they need someone that is willing to lay a hit on the other teams talent and then be willing to drop the gloves with 'their' goon.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 2, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

@caraveli

On Semin's negotiations not going well. Appearently, it was Pierre LeBrun on ESPN who's saying that. (Not sure how reliable the info is but....)

Yes, between that news, Ovi's injury and the Caps' heartbreaking losses, I've been in a very down mood today. (I even dressed in black -- how fitting.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

@Capt_Kirk_in_AZ

Brash had basically rarely played after he was injured against Nashville last year.

He was restored to the lineup against the Rangers. And then was suspended and never returned to the lineup even after his suspension was over. I knew that was the end. It just seemed like Brash had gotten too old and too injury prone to really be effective anymore.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

boo friggin hoo. dude has been head hunting and slew footing half the league for 2 years. Worse is sure to happen if he doesn't start respecting other players

Cups are us (pens)

Posted by: sean1smith | November 2, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I agree with those who see this as an opportunity to see how the team can play without their top-star player. I mean, this team still has a bunch of stars even without Ovi in lineup.

Really nice to see the between period interview with Laich yesterday (between 2nd/3rd) and then to see him put actions to his words!!! Lets see that continue, and other step up as well.

I wonder who will be called up from Hershey. I would not mind seeing Osala or Gordon called up.

Is Fehr still injured, or has he been scratched the last couple of games? Would be great to see him back in the linuep sometime soon!

Go Caps!

Posted by: The_Stanley_Caps | November 2, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

joek443:
it is not a goon that is needed. brash was a goon because his skills no longer matched what was needed on the ice. this team doesn't need a goon, they need someone that is willing to lay a hit on the other teams talent and then be willing to drop the gloves with 'their' goon.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 2, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

devil's advocate here -- when you have a goon, I mean a real fearsome one, then it does help your overall team toughness. I agree that what you really need is your team to play together with a foxhole mentality. But PART of that is having guys who can also fight effectively and be a real fear factor. In order to have guys who are willing to respond with hitting another team's skill players, it helps to have a heavy on your team who can jump in there to assist if things get out of control. No one on this team fights well enough, Erskine's the closest. Bradley is a very avg fighter, Clark is putrid.

Basically, having tough guys on your team (not necessarily GOONS but tough guys who can fight well and still pull down decent minutes) will help your team's confidence. That old cliche about how having a tough guy on your bench makes your entire team play a bit bigger is definitely true.

Posted by: cstanton1 | November 2, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

@sean1smith

It's not like the Pens haven't had their share of slewfooters -- like Evgeny Malkin, Mr. Slewfoot himself.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Another pens fan coming strong with the facts. Gotta love how they win the cup but the fans still have ovie-envy. Nice slap fight Cindy got into this weekend.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 2, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

capsfan75

malkin pays for it too. out 1 to 2. see how objective I am??...i bet no one on here will admit that guy (8) is a head hunter but the video proves it out

Posted by: sean1smith | November 2, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan1, he probably learned it from his owner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XDaCrCTrXM

Posted by: joek443 | November 2, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Who'd Cindy speedbag this time? Such a compelling leader, he is.
Hope Ovechkin sits till he's healed completely, and that All will step up to win. Last fall's extensive call-ups proved themselves; can this roster do as much in 8's absence?
I wonder what'd happen if teams thought running Ovechkin might cost 'em their star, not their palooka?

Posted by: redlineblue | November 2, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Get well soon Ovie!

Posted by: hockeyfan8 | November 2, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

seriously? Seems like that was our third cup no? eh? And to say teddy's boys don't have a pens complex is laughable

Posted by: sean1smith | November 2, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Sonyask | November 2, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Seansmith--you come on a Caps board after the NHL's MVP has been injured to taunt and show disrespect to Caps fans. Nice going (sarcastic tone). When Criesby was hurt last season I did not waste my time or Pens fans time going on a Pens message board to taunt. Get a life and stop being so jealous. And if you feel compelled to response then I will know that you can't stand that we have the best player and the original tough guy in Ovie. Buh-bye!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 2, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, the pens have had the caps number inthe playoffs no doubt . If the roles were reversed and the caps beat the pens last year and won the cup, the last thing I'd care about us whether Cindy or Malkin were hurt. That is, unless I had some inferiority complex cause I don't have the best player in the world on my team.

But hey, since you mentioned video, why don't you prove your point with video evidence. Link some YouTube videos of all of ovies head hunting slew footing shenanigans over his career. Try and find 5 or 6 examples out of the hundreds of hits ovie has had. That shouldn't be hard.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 2, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Trade Green and Poti while you can still get something for them. Don't resign Theo unless it's for

Posted by: Unleash_The_Caps | November 2, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, cut off my post. oh well....

Posted by: Unleash_The_Caps | November 2, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, they will need to either use Fehr or Gordon (Boyd) or put Gordo on LTIR to bring up a forward.

Who might that be?

I of course can't follow Hershey, but I recall from last year BB always said he wanted a bring up a player who had a similar skill set to the player he was replacing.

Of course, no one can "replace" Ovie. BUT...you can put Flash to take a bigger role as #1 LW. Flash-Backie-Semin is a very nice line, and Laich-BMo-Knuble should be effective too.

I'm thinking the player at Hershey most similar to Ovie style (a sniper) might be Bouchard. Last year he was inconsistent. Has he improved? He and some others at Hershey are running out of time with entry-level deals.

For some player, this is an opportunity.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 2, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Sonyask--Nice video of sucker-punching Criesby and boy do I agree with you DCsportsfan--Ovie jealousy sure brings Pen fan knuckleheads onto this board! Who do they think they are kidding!

Much more importantly get healed Ovie!

Also I heard a nice Halloween story from friends who live in the same neighborhood as Ovie--his mom passed out fig newtons to the kids and my friend's children are not going to eat their cookies. Not sure how they are going to save them but you know how kids are!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 2, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

My suggestion is to absolutely, positively ignore the trolls. To answer them, especially in their own tone, is to give them strength. There's nothing a pest hates more than to be ignored.

Be a better person. It isn't that hard to do.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 2, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

I have to admit I agree. Caps need a tough guy on team who other teams have to consider. Erskine and Bradley are about the toughest guys available. However, they aren't true enforcers. If an opposing player roughs up Ovechkin, Semin, etc. we need somebody who can lay somebody out. This type player is needed more at this time of year than at playoff time...

Posted by: kcbrichmond | November 2, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Bouchard hmm interesting. Been pleased with Flash. Lines for the next game should be interesting. Sure am glad we have Semin and Backstrom.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 2, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Fig newtons? If it was anyones house other than Ovies it would be due for a good egging. No body wants fig newtons on Halloween!!

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 2, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

You are right about trolls. Just in a really cranky mood and reading day to day morph into week to week did not help my mood. But I am glad the Russian Machine is not rushing recovery. There is time to heal. And the boys have to as Laich said pick up their game. The skill is there.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 2, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Trade Green and Poti while you can still get something for them. Don't resign Theo unless it's for

Posted by: Unleash_The_Caps | November 2, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

yes and while they're at it, they should trade OV before he seriously gets hurt and becomes no use to the team

Posted by: joek443 | November 2, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I chalked that up to cultural differences. Bet it was what she had in the house. Also hears that during Ocie's rookie season Halloween he kept answering the door and didn't understand why these kids kept saying trick or treat!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 2, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

who is our enforcer, again?

and the caps attack played well in spite of ovie's absence. the defence needs work, and the offence needs to be better about putting in loose pucks at the goal.

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Posted by: huangzhixian104 | November 2, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1

Yes, Sunday's second line of Semin/Backstrom/Flash is now our first line. Our "normal" second line of Laich/Morrison/Knuble is reunited as they were when Ovi went down.

Semin did carry the team during Ovi's slump last year. Hope he can do it again. (And that his contract negotiations go better.)

I'm in a super down mood at the moment. Ovi being "week to week" which given the Caps' track record in that regard, means a stint on LTIR and we won't see him until December. And then the news that Semin's contract negotiations are NOT going well. I'm steeling myself for the fact that I should enjoy Sasha while I still can since next year he'll be gone. Arghhh!

Well gang, it's time to keep all the breakables away from me.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TheMiz | November 2, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Capsfan75, step back from the sharp objects. Ovie will be back and better than ever. It's November not April. Give the team a chance to practice some team defense. And the "news" on semins talks are unsubstantiated rumours. It's a negotiation, your going to hear all sorts of stuff..most of it bs. Remember all the angst and rumours before Ovie signed??

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 2, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

@Capsyoungguns

I just don't understand the mentality of trolls. Coming to gloat when we're struggling.

Do you know what I hope happens to the Pens? I hope they coast to the regular season title and then come into the playoffs all cocky and overconfident. "We the best team by far." "We always win the big one in the Conference Finals." "We always can come back from any deficit at the last minute." Pens with their 120-130 regular season points going into the playoffs with a really swell head.

And then they get dumped in the playoffs -- by the #8 seed. Wouldn't that be great? In any case, I plan to send a card of congratulations to the head coach of the team who dumps the Pens in the Eastern Conference playoffs.

I would not be going on Pens boards to gloat. (But I'd consider going on the board of the next team that dumps them in the playoffs and say "Congratulations".

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

@The_Stanley_Caps

Fehr is injured. He got his ribs bruised up during his 2nd game back during a "major" hit. He's tried to practice but hasn't been able to play in a game.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

@Capsyoungguns & dcsportsfan1

On Ovi's house giving Fig Newtons at Halloween.

People are so paranoid these days that the relatively "healthy" treats are the ones thrown away. Like apples, due to so many stories about razor blades. And Fig Newtons. Did I ever get them for Halloween? I'm sure I did at least once. And I have gotten apples. But now some parents don't let their kids accept apples because of the remote possibility that some "bad" people insert razor blades.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

@dcsportsfan1

I'm sure the 'news' on Semin is probably rumors and innuendo. Japers had originally reported it (and noted how they left out some things.)

I'll admit I'm more down in general since Ovi is down (so more worried about the whole Semin situation and the team in general).

At least it is November and not March or April.

I do recall the crap I read about Ovi before he signed his multi year deal. ("He should be on a "real" team like Montreal. Yakety! Yak!) Also, I recall that Semin actually signed his extension months before Ovi. (There was all kinds of worry about signing Semin and Ovi before the end of the year.)


Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

We need something to cheer us up. Come on Russian league, take Nylander off our hands!

Posted by: zmega | November 2, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tess2201 | November 2, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75, I was thinking about you when I read that Semin's contract negotiations weren't going well. Didn't we hear that GMGM lowballed Huet initially and that his agent said there was no way Huet was going to play for the Caps 'cause of that initial lowball offer? So maybe GMGM has lowballed Semin and Semin can't believe it.

I'm right with you on Ovi being injured and being worried that it might be weeks before he returns. Hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: dfe1 | November 2, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

My recollection of the Huet negotiations is that GMGM asked the agent what Huet wanted, the agent named a price, and GMGM agreed. Then the agent shopped the Caps offer around the league and the Hawks topped it. It helps to have flexible ethics to be an agent.

Posted by: zmega | November 2, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

zmega, yeah, that's what I initially heard, but then somewhere else recently I heard that the agent admitted that Huet was never going to sign with us 'cause of an embarassing low initial offer. If I can find it, I'll try to link it here.

Posted by: dfe1 | November 2, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

huet didn't sign here cause he wanted a longer deal and mcphee wouldn't give it to him, which was a smart move. agents can talk about being "embarrassed" by low offers, but we all know that players are going to sign where they are guaranteed to get the most money.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 2, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, i did a search and didn't really come up with anything other than speculation. GMGM did admit that his initial offer to Huet was 3 yrs @ 3.7, which does seem kind of low. I could see Semin, even if they're willing to pay him big $$$, being insulted by an initial low offer.

Posted by: dfe1 | November 2, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

@dfe1

It will probably be December when we next see Ovi in the lineup. After Thanksgiving but before Christmas.

I don't remember GMGM lowballing Huet but I must confess I don't remember many of the details. I had assumed the problem was length of contract.

Well, Sasha, it was nice knowing you. I'll miss you. Just don't join a team I hate.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Players claim to be "insulted" by low initial offers when they don't intend to sign with a team anyway. It is generally a bogus claim. Do you think a player would reject the highest offer from an otherwise acceptable team because of a low initial offer? These are well represented people who know how the contract game is played.

Posted by: zmega | November 2, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

@zmega

Would be nice if the Russian league took Nyls off our hands (and freed up some cap space).

I will be very sad when Semin is gone and we still have Nylander.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

>>initial offer to Huet was 3 yrs @ 3.7, which does seem kind of low.

Um. What???

Posted by: redlineblue | November 2, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I think it's a bit early to buy Semin a ticket out of town. I think the team will make a serious effort to keep him, especially if Ovi says he wants him here. Semin has his quirks, but he also has rare talent.

Posted by: zmega | November 2, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75:
You need to borrow some of tominfl1's margarita mix and mellow out. All this negativity is not good for the soul. Repeat after me: Ovi will be fine in a week or two...Sasha will sign for many more years...Nylander will soon be a distant memory...the boys will all stop taking stupid penalties. If we all chant it together maybe it will come true. :)

Posted by: tess2201 | November 2, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

@tess2201

Unfortunately, I have trouble with being mellow. Even age didn't mellow me out. I see a lot of myself in Semin (as well as seeing a lot of my elder daughter.)

I think if Semin's mother and I ever got together and compared notes on our kids, they'd sound similar. (OK, there is this thing called the language barrier.)

I wish chanting all those things together could "make it so".

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75:
You need to borrow some of tominfl1's margarita mix and mellow out. All this negativity is not good for the soul. Repeat after me: Ovi will be fine in a week or two...Sasha will sign for many more years...Nylander will soon be a distant memory...the boys will all stop taking stupid penalties. If we all chant it together maybe it will come true. :)

Posted by: tess2201 | November 2, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Here, here!

Love the positivity. I happen to think Caps are a pretty talented team, even with Ovi out of the line-up. And if they start to tighten up, step up a little with Ovi out, well, all the better.

I remember how Boudreau was concerned last week, stating that he hates being the first team to face the Thrashers after their star player went down, because teams tend to step it up and try to win for their fallen players...well, I think that fear should be the same for any team facing the Caps...especially because we have enough talent to really back that up (Caps without Ovi are still a heck of lot more talented than Thrashers without Kovy, IMO).

As for Semin, I really hope they try their hardest to sign him. I always thought that he has the most raw skill on this team (just not as rounded or dominant as Ovi..? Or as consistently smooth, level-headed or "intelligent" as Backstrom). But he does garner a lot of attention from other teams, and helps take focus off of Ovi...to a point.

Chin up Caps fans! As far as Ovi goes, better now than in April...and perhaps if he is out for a couple of weeks, the more rested he will be come April...?

Go Caps!

Go Caps!

Posted by: The_Stanley_Caps | November 2, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

@zmega

I'd rather see the Caps keep Semin, if at all possible. Yes, he has quirks but who doesn't.

I don't want to buy him a ticket out of town. But it seems like there are so many posters (and even so many bloggers) who want to run him out of town. And he has certainly not been our worst offender in the "bad penalty" department this year.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dfe1 | November 2, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

I hope we keep Semin, but does anyone think that Semin feels he should be getting whatever Backstrom gets? Maybe they're compairing notes.

Posted by: dfe1 | November 2, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Funny (if not horrible) thought of the night....for those conspiracy theorists out there....

First Kovy, than Malkin, now Ovi...Anyone think Russian Olympic team is asking their star players to take a little rest to stay fresh for olympics. (totally sarcastic!!!).

Very unfortunate that so many star players are getting injured. Games are much more enjoyable to watch for all NHL fans when the best players are in the lineup. Heal up soon!

Go Caps!

Posted by: The_Stanley_Caps | November 2, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

@The_Stanley_Caps

You're good and positive.

As worried as I am about Ovi (and, yes, "week to week" sound ominous and makes me think the worst and I did hear that about Flash before he was put on LTIR"), at least it's in November and not April. Yes, I'm scared that this could be an LTIR situation. Or he could be back in two weeks.

The Caps will still make the playoffs. There's enough talent to stay ahead of the rest of the South Least division. And probably enough to stay ahead of most of the North Least division teams in points. Okay, Buffalo's off to a great start but they usually get off to a great start. Will it hold up? Good question.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

@dfe1

On Semin and Backstrom comparing notes.

And then Semin and Backstrom decide to jointly hold out for more money, like Sandy Koufax and Don Drysdale did in the 1960's.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

@The_Stanley_Caps

Conspiracy theories on potential Russian Olympians is the least of my worries right now.

Yep, it's been a bad year for injuries.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 2, 2009 11:14 PM | Report abuse

you never wanna see anyone get hurt but in the long run I don't think it would hurt them to play without OV for a little while.

it's not like Gussy breaking his leg on a knee on knee collision with Denis Potvin while they were having the best year in franchise history...

Posted by: joek443 | November 2, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

@joek443 - I remember that well. I completely lost respect for Potvin.

Posted by: zmega | November 2, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Capsfan75--yes it's a sad day in Capsville. But I firmly believe that Ovie will be just fine and this is an opportunity for the rest of the team to step it up. The talent and drive is there. The team chemistry is there. And I ABSOLUTELY believe that Sasha and Backie will both be signed. It's just a piece of gossip about the negotiations. Both are such integral members of our team. So I hope you've had a good night's rest when you read this and that means that you probably laid off of whatever tominfl is drinking. It sounds absolutely potent!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 3, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

@Capsyoungguns

I'd probably never wake up for work if I drank TomInFla's margarita concoction. (Okay, I'm going to a seminar instead of the office but it's a longer drive than normal.)

Now I'm going to bed and should hopefully be well rested. Thanks everyone for letting me vent. I'll be calmer tomorrow.

Good news on one front -- the Yankees lost tonight.

And .... go Sasha. Time for Sasha to be player of the month for November. He had been sick recently.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | November 3, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Capsfan75
I know what you mean. From the time that Ovie got a penalty early on in the game, everything seemed to unravel and now this latest about him being "week by week."

He is such a beast--with iron health and endless energy--that it is scary to think that he is human after all. I bet he will be up and running in no time. And, you know what! This may be a blessing in disguise for the team. Maybe they have been relying too much on him and this will wake them up and get them to take more responsibility.

The most unbearable thing this season is the Penns winning and Cindy scoring--especially when he had a hat trick the other day.

Posted by: caraveli | November 3, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

sorry "irockthered" for posting here -figured no one would be reading last night's convo as that blog post has long since passed...

but to, respectfully, continue on your theo > varly rant...

@irockthered - So can the "three-or-more" crap. I don't want to hear it.

please save the "whole perspective" crap.
lord stanley's cup is determined by wins and losses, not save percentage and goals against average.
regardless of numbers, you have to get wins, and with this team, you should be better than a .500 goalie.
stay positive on theo for as long as you want. spin the numbers however you'd like. but you cant "spin" 5-0-0 vs 3-2-4.

Posted by: RAJSTAR | November 3, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Its probably nothing. Caps have a good start, decent lead in div, and are more than capable of winning without ovechkin. Let the russian machine take a few rests so that he is healthy for the stanley cup instead of playing on injections and brutally destroyed.

Posted by: trunkenmath | November 3, 2009 4:07 AM | Report abuse

As I wrote previously:
As bad as it is for Ovi - better now than during the playoffs ...

... and where are all the posters who wrote about our deep roster (especially during the "Bourque-discussion") ... has the roster drastically changed?

and I agree with trunkenmath and others: for most of the games, the CAPS are more than capable of winning without ovechkin ...

Posted by: FCKoeln1 | November 3, 2009 5:27 AM | Report abuse

1) the "deepest" roster in the world can't replace an Ovechkin.
2) Tess - thanks for Bouchard link. Sounds like he is getting close. I think his entry-level deal ends this year, so next year he is like Bourque - big club or waivers.
3) How has this Semin stuff spun so far out of control? We have no clue at all about negotiations. Too me, he's not quite worth Backstrom, although Semin has the negotiation power of being one year from UFA and the fact (like Bouwmeester did) he can opt for arbitration; get a one year contract for like $6M; and then test the market as UFA July 1st, 2011. Backstrom is under club control 4 more years. The presumption is either we sign Semin or he signs a deal with another team and we match or get picks. Not true due to arbitration. So, while most say 'sign backie first," it is Semin who's actually more compelling to get locked up first.
3A) Semin and Ovie are very good friends, and Semin being introverted, I can't imagine him wanting to strike out on his own. He could though follow Kovalchuk somewhere.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 3, 2009 5:47 AM | Report abuse

re: Huet. As I recall, McPhee offered 3 yrs at $3.7M per year and then there was very little discussion for six weeks. The agent had asked 3 yrs $5M/yr. Then I recall McPhee did in fact offer "what they had asked for," but only at the very last minute. Had he offered that amount back in May (2008), Huet would have probably signed. But, the player, having waited until July 1st, now getting a last second offer, doubtless felt he had nothing to lose by waiving the Caps offer and asking, "Who will beat this?"

McPhee really botched that negotiation, my opinion. HOWEVER, it all turned out for the best. Still, if you actually intend to keep a player, you don't offer way below market and then give them a market offer at one minute before midnight on UFA day. This is just how the Orioles lost Reggie Jackson in 1976.

They will either sign Backstrom close to Kopitar in dollars (7 yrs, $6.8M yr) or give him a longer deal (ala Richards), maybe 11 yrs, $6M/yr. I like the 11 yrs to match him with Ovie. Then you put on the table to Semin 6 yrs and $36M and you hand him the pen. No one can say that would be a lowball offer. Low end of the scale, maybe, but not lowball.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 3, 2009 5:55 AM | Report abuse

To someone who also follows the Kings:

Who is better, Backstrom or Kopitar? I realize they are different, but if you were starting a team from scratch and could only pick one.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 3, 2009 6:17 AM | Report abuse

tominfl1,agree that it worked out for the best with not signing Huet. I just have a feeling that either Semin was lowballed and is insulted by it or Semin is upset with the length of contract as compared with Backstom, although your deal sounds fair to me. For all we know, the McGuire report could be a total lie, but I have a feeling it's not.

Posted by: dfe1 | November 3, 2009 6:19 AM | Report abuse

At this point, there's no need to worry about Ovie. Even if he's out a month (or maybe a little more), it's not that big of a deal. To make a run for the cup, having a healthy team in April is much more important than having a healthy team in October/November. The Caps can certainly win some games without him, and they're in a division that probably can be won with a .500 record. As long as he comes back at full strength, there's really nothing to worry about.

Jeff

Posted by: PensFan98 | November 3, 2009 6:22 AM | Report abuse

well The Sports Junkies, (now aka Dummmies), just called the Caps & OV superstitious and "sissies" for not disclosing OV's injury.
I may never listen to them again.

Posted by: Max231 | November 3, 2009 6:28 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the Sports Junkies write for Rolling Stone. ;o)

NHL teams and players almost NEVER reveal the location or extent of injuries, and the Caps certainly aren't being "sissies" in keeping the details under wraps.

Jeff

Posted by: PensFan98 | November 3, 2009 6:31 AM | Report abuse

no doubt!the caps' disclosure is the league wide way of describing injuries. Anyone who follows hockey, even just a little in their case, would know that. :)

Posted by: Max231 | November 3, 2009 6:36 AM | Report abuse

Backstrom/Semin comparables:

1) Mike Richards 12 yrs $72M ($6M/yr)
2) Anze Kopitar 7 yrs $48M ($6.8M/yr)

Now put Backstrom and Semin in with those two, ranking them on which player you would take first, last and in between.

Once you've done that, you can pretty easily figurre out the salary, given that a longer salary these days usually means a little less per year.

I can see clearly that Backie seems as good as Kopitar, but you can also argue that Richards is as valuable as Backstrom, so it is easy to compare. "Almost equal," I'd say. Semin is a bit of a wild card, and he might compare also to Gaborik ($7.5M/yr), although Gaborik's deal was UFA and he has over 200 goals.

If I'm Semin, I either get a decent deal long-term to be with my buddy, or I go for arbitration next summer and then get a Gaborik UFA deal in July, 2011.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 3, 2009 6:42 AM | Report abuse

I fear Semin will go UFA. I can see a biddgin frenzy breaking out for his flashy skills.

Posted by: Max231 | November 3, 2009 6:51 AM | Report abuse

Corey's tweet: Ovechkin could be a quick healer, but in past seasons the Caps haven't called someone week-to-week unless it was a pretty serious injury.

Posted by: dfe1 | November 3, 2009 7:53 AM | Report abuse

Perspective.

I have a close childhood friend in a hospital bed in Indianapolis. Her kidneys have failed completely. Two weeks ago, she had her right leg amputated mid-thigh due to complications from type 1 diabetes. Tomorrow morning, her left leg will be amputated at the hip. And because of swine flu fears, I'm not allowed to visit. Nobody is, but her parents and her husband. Not even her sisters can get in.

I don't have the energy to worry about Ovechkin right now, or the Caps, or which goalie is better than which. I don't have the energy to argue with anyone today.

But nothing anyone on this team is going through can possibly be that bad, when put in perspective.

Posted by: irockthered | November 3, 2009 8:08 AM | Report abuse

If I recall correctly, Semin is an RFA next year, right? That means the Caps still have the right to match any offer.

If the Caps didn't match the offer, the acquiring team would have to give up draft picks as well, right?

I don't see him going anywhere next season. But there is limited time to sign him to an extension. It'd be nice to avoid the RFA drama altogether.

Posted by: JohninMpls | November 3, 2009 8:25 AM | Report abuse

@Irockthered:

Very sorry to hear about your friend's situation. I wish her a speedy recovery.

My cousin just went through a similar situation, and is on her way to recovery, but I know how scary it can be!

Be strong and know that she is in our thoughts.

Posted by: The_Stanley_Caps | November 3, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Until Ovie goes on LTIR it is not that serious. The week-2-week tag is to lower expectations of the fan base and media, and to quiet questions of "will-he-play tonight" for the next 3 games.

Posted by: SA-Town | November 3, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

@irockthered: Yes, that does put things in perspective. I will keep your friend in thoughts and prayers. She is facing a challenge much greater than the SC, that's for sure, and it's good she has the support of a friend like you.

I think there is too much 'lag' time in between games (although, of course, it's needed for the players) that makes people ruminate and obsess over things too much. We have no idea what is going on with Semin. I'm sure that McPhee doesn't take his cues from bloggers---thank God---otherwise we'd have no one left on the team.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | November 3, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

@irockthered
My prayers and best wishes for your friend.

Posted by: tess2201 | November 3, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

@irockthered--I'm sorry to hear about your friend. The two situations are not comparable at all. I hope she pulls through.

@tominfl1--well I'm relieved the Huet negotiations were botched then. Otherwise we would be all yelling about another cap hindering salary. But I believe that the upcoming signing of Semin and Backstrom has always been at the back of McPhee's mind when negotiating. Moreover whenever I read "rumors" I always question the source to best judge the validity of a rumor. Everyone has an agenda. For all we know an agent planted the rumor to sow disinformation or to force a move in a negotiation. Aside from Ovie, no one on this team is untradeable but I really believe that Semin and Backstrom are at the bottom of a trade-bait list.

As for Ovie being hurt, from a hockey perspective I'm happy that it happened at the beginning of the season-lots of time to heal and a chance to get the team to find more secondary scoring and to find new line combos. I do think there is a tendency on this team to look to Ovie to pull out a win. Semin really stepped it up last year and I certainly think that Laich did just in the last game, though it was a frustrating game. Sigh.....!

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | November 3, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

given the likely dollar figures associated with contracts for Backie and Semin; I take Backie, hands down. bye, bye Sasha

Posted by: doughless | November 3, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Saw yours and cstanton's posts yesterday--I know you both are Sasha bashers and I disagree with you. I think Semin is an amazing player. I don't know what constitutes young in your book, but the young guns are all 25 and under just entering into their prime. Yeah--they are still young in my book. I've read enough of your posts to know that it's all about the elite d-man for you--someone who plays physical, can take players out, and leave the scoring to others--no closet forward for you. I guess that's why you want to trade Semin--get that big d-man name whomever you have in mind. I guess I think we can fill our d-man needs later closer to playoffs and without trading an elite talent like Semin.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | November 3, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I hope you understand from my post that I also think signing Backie is a no-brainer. I just don't understand why posters have to make it an either-or choice. For me it's both.

Posted by: newbiecapsfan07 | November 3, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

JohninMpls: Yes, Semin in a RFA next July 1st. He has three choices:

1) sign an extension with the Caps for one year or more;
2) go on the open market and sign a RFA offer sheet. The Caps can then match or accept the draft choices as compensation. Be advised as I recently recounted from Scott Stevens how that (didn't) work. He left in the summer of 1990 and the first significant payback was Brendan Witt and Sergei Gonchar five or six years LATER.
3) Semin can also file for salary arbitration. This is bad from the team standpoint. It's what Bouwmeester did in his final year in Florida. It gets him a one year contract for next season, but allows him to be a UFA (no compensation) the following year. I believe Semin will do this if not extended, since it will put him in line for a Gaborik type contract. I know people put down Gaborik right and left, but he gets $7.5M a year. The put downs he can ignore but the money goes into the bank.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 3, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

I'M NOT HERE TO BLOG ABOUT SALARY CAPS OR WHO WE OR SHOULDNT GET,ALL I KNOW IS THE CAPS NEED TO TIGHTEN THERE GAME UP AND DO IT FAST.KNUBLE NEEDS TO STEP UP AND BE THE PLAYER WE GOT HIM FOR AND NOW ITS SEMIN'S TIME TO SHINE.LETS SEE HOW THIS TEAM PULLS TOGETHER WITH THERE MAIN MAN OUT.AND IF THEY DO THEY NEED TO KEEP IT UP EVEN AFTER OVI GETS BACK.CAUSE IF THEY SHOW HOW GREAT THEY CAN PLAY WITHOUT OVI,IMAGINE HOW THEY WILL BE WITH HIM BACK -AMAZING!! ALL RIGHT CAPS ITS TIME TO SHINE.GO CAPS!!!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | November 3, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

1. A pro player should not be insulted by a low initial offer, that is how negotiation works. One side offers too little, the other side asks for too much and they meet somewhere in the middle. BTW, the way Huet is playing looks like GMGM knew what he was doing.

2. I like fig newtons, but my kids didn't get any that I could steal. Though one neighbor gives out gold dollar coins, which is pretty cool and another one give beers to the parents.

3. @stanleycup75, if you have never seen the Caps win when they play the hockey song you haven't been to many games. They played it pretty much every game last year and I believe the Caps won a few at home.

Posted by: ds_kelly | November 3, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

I love Fig Newtons! There was a guy down the street when I was growing up who fired up his grill and gave out hot dogs on Halloween. We all thought he was awesome, and since everyone knew the guy, we all got a couple of hot dogs for a base for all the candy we'd gorge on. It was very cool.

Posted by: irockthered | November 3, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

joe b. on the junkies. heard from sources that it's not "serious". he wouldn't be surprised if ovie misses the three games this week and is back next week. joe b. probably has as much access to the team as anyone. my guess is that he knows exactly what's wrong with ovie but wont say cause the team doesnt want it disclosed.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 3, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

sorry guys, for me, all halloween handouts must include some chocolate in/on it...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 3, 2009 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Knubs has played just fine. Just note who is in front of the net for many of the goals scored by the Caps. Look no further than Bluejackets game. The problem is that he is on a line with Brooksie. There styles are very similar (front the net). Knubs needs a perimeter shooter on his line to blast pucks, so that he can pick up the change. My one knock on Knubs is that he is being negatively impacted by his teammates and is taking some dumb late-game penalties.

Posted by: doughless | November 3, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

also, watch how Knubs players the corners and boards. masterful. if more Caps would follow his example we would be all the more effective on offense.

Posted by: doughless | November 3, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

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