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Caps Re-Sign Gordon

Center Boyd Gordon has accepted his qualifying offer. It's a one-year deal worth $761,250.

The team's other RFAs -- Shaone Morrisonn, Eric Fehr, Jeff Schultz -- have until Wednesday to accept their Q.O.'s, or the offers come off the table.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  July 13, 2009; 5:58 PM ET
 
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is john carlson known for his offense mostly or is he a good defender with some offensive skills? either way with him and Orlov's BIG SHOT, get all these guys together with the big club and the offesive TEAM game will be a thing of beauty. We currently have some big shots from the point , but not enough and some of the guys seem unable to get the puck to the net,something Knuble needs to get 2 foot goals. The prospects under the current plan sure seem like something to get excited about!!

Posted by: bryaningrocery | July 13, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

You gotta think Schultz and Fehr will accept. Not sure about Mo.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | July 13, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

WOW!! All of this talk about huge contracts lately and Gordo sounds like a bargain!! ;-)

Posted by: Boo- | July 13, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

from previous post.
Tarik. Sometime later in the week, can you compare last years defensive coaching to this years, if there are any obvious differences.
thanks

Posted by: billd2 | July 13, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

thats great that we get a great penalty killer and faceoff-man for under 800k

Posted by: _stevo | July 13, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

looks like the Schultz haters may get their wish if he decides to not accept his QO (as well as Fehr, Mo and the Hershey RFA's)

Posted by: superpaqman | July 13, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

yay, Gordo has always been among my favorite players

Posted by: GoUnited | July 13, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Gordon is an OK player. He does his role of winning faceoffs and killing penalties very well but he will never give you any offense. But for that price its a great deal. Winning faceoffs is very important and the caps have always been spoiled in that regard.

Posted by: caps512 | July 13, 2009 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Nice to hear Gordo's back! I'm all for a cheap PK/face-off specialist, especially financially.
Will be there to watch the kids Wednesday & Thursday. Already planning on taking lots of notes & pictures!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 13, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Interesting this, too. Only one year. He's got to prove himself this year.

Posted by: Greg S. | July 13, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Yea, Gordo!

As for development camp, I saw many with potential. Someone asked earlier about Sorkin - he has potential and had some good plays. Della Rovere looks like he has speed, stamina and some grit. Mestery frequently made things difficult for forwards and already handles his height well. Gus looked good, but I think he needs at least one more year in Sweden or at Hershey. Orlov for someone 6' could be a brick wall, and not just the tangle in front of the net that has been mentioned. Finley is as agressive as we've heard, he'll become friends with the penalty box.

The other goalies were B. Carlson and Z-- Sorry. I didn't write it down so I can't remember how to spell it.

Posted by: pstenigma | July 14, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

pstenigma, the goalies are Dustin Carlson (OSU Buckeyes) & Garrett Zemlak (Prince Albert Raiders).

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 14, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Interesting this, too. Only one year. He's got to prove himself this year.

Posted by: Greg S.

Don't know if Gordo has anything to left to prove. What you see is what you get with him. Good faceoff guy, good PKer and next to no offense. Valuable guy tho for the money

Posted by: tempusfugitrgv | July 14, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

About Gordo, I seem to recall BB saying he still has some offensive upside, he even put him in the top 3 for a shootout once (maybe more) and everyone was sort of scratching their heads about it. But for my money I like the guy and hope he sticks around, but likely he knew he'd get the money here and is comfortable.

Posted by: superpaqman | July 14, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse

@JMU

Would you happen to be able to tell me why Dovgan is not attending camp?

Posted by: richmondphil | July 14, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse


If the caps are smart about it (and they've shown no intelligence in this particular arena), they will encourage Carlson to become a DEFENDER first, and an offensive guy 2nd. To answer your question, he's our best prospect mainly because he can play well all over the ice. He's tough, he can skate, he cuts angles well, he challenges forwards, he can fight, he has a booming shot, the kid can do it all. He's not the offensive skater Mike Green is, he's more of a guy who can take a hit, get the pass out of the zone, and pinch in aggressively at the point and get pucks to the net. But as he showed in Hershey, he is also good on the rush. I just hope and pray the Caps don't try to turn him into what they've turned Mike Green into - a one dimensional offensive defenseman who can't be trusted in his own end at critical points in the game.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 14, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

Boudreau On Carlson: "Easily" the best and "most polished" player on the ice today. Boudreau's Day 1 surprises: Eakin and Bruess.

I hope Eakin isn't Boyd Gordon version 2. He has roughly the same bio that Gordo did when he got drafted.

Trevor Bruess, now there's an intriguing prospect. He can play center and wing but Boudreau has his eye on him playing center. He's like a Steve Ott type player. He's an agitator who can skate and has some skill.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 14, 2009 1:15 AM | Report abuse

@richmondphil,
I'm not sure why Dovgan isn't there. He's signed through next season, but I can't find anything about him lately. His last game was March 21 with SC. I've found nothing about an injury, he just disappears. If he wasn't injured and got pushed off the depth chart in SC, its possible he's not progressing at the pace the Caps feel is appropriate and are no longer interested. Or it could be an injury I can't find and he and the team felt it was best for him to skip camp for rest & rehab. Or he was invited, but couldn't attend for some other reason? He trained with Ovi last summer, not that that means anything.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 14, 2009 2:00 AM | Report abuse

Cstanton- please help me understand why you think Green is such a defensive liability. Is it because he doesn't lay out a huge hit? Don't base it on the playoffs as he had more than 1 injury and the biggest was with his shoulder which is still hurting him. So outside of the playoffs please enlighten me. The bottom line is you can't. Everybody wants to jump on him for his defense and it's baseless. He is our best skating Dman and you don't skate well in the offensive zone and forget how to skate in your defensive zone. He may not be the best defensive defenseman in the league but he's more than average and I'll take him over most others on our D currently. He is positionally sound and typically gets the puck out of our zone quickly. What more do you want?

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 14, 2009 5:46 AM | Report abuse

cstanton doesn't want the Caps to turn Carlson into what they've turned Green into - a Norris Trophy runner-up. Well, I'd happily have two Norris candidates.

Here's up to the second cap. Counting Alzner's bonus fully, they have 9 dollars and 14 cents of room.

Ovechkin 9.538
Nylander 4.875
Semin 4.600
Knuble 2.800
Clark 2.633
Backstrom 2.400
Laich 2.067
Morrison 1.500
Bradley 1.000
Fehr (Est - RFA) 0.800
Gordon 0.761
Flash 0.725
Steckel 0.725
Aucoin 0.500
S/T 14 Forwards 34.924
Green 5.250
Poti 3.500
Pothier 2.500
Alzner (w/bonus) 1.675
Jurcina or Schultz (Est - RFA) 1.275
Erskine 1.275
Sloan 0.640
S/T 7 Defensemen 16.115
Theodore 4.500
Varlamov 0.850
S/T 2 Goalies 5.350
Total 23 Players 56.389
Clymer (Buyout) 0.367
Total 23 Players + Clymer 56.756
Cap Space (Est) 56.800
Available 0.044

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 14, 2009 5:55 AM | Report abuse

To clarify:

The Caps, to my understanding, can overrun the cap this year by $2.5M (value of Backstrom and Alzner bonuses, if they are fully paid out) but would then be docked by the overrun for 2010-11.

The Backstrom bonus might already be guaranteed, don't know, based on him having achieved the first two years, and I don't know if that makes the bonus become normal salary for cap computations (and doesn't count then as overrunnable bonus cushion).

Either way, they have room, but surely they don't want to get into IOUs on the following year when they have extensions coming due.

I have always been a Gordon fan. He gives value for the money. He had good training in the WHL and has two more years, to break out, before he is a UFA.

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 14, 2009 6:05 AM | Report abuse

It's funny..Pittsburgh was getting some offense from guys like Gordon when they won they cup. You got to get some 2 way play from everyone to win the cup.

Posted by: SA-Town | July 14, 2009 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Just in from Puck Daddy.
The Montreal Canadiens' centennial celebration hasn't exactly worked out the way they hoped it might, what with the losing and the scandals and the desperate, sweeping changes in the offseason. But there's still time to wipe the dirt off the cake, relight the candles and finish strong; like, for example, with a hockey game inside Olympic Stadium this November, potentially pitting the Habs against Alexander Ovechkin(notes) and the Washington Capitals in a blockbuster matchup.

Posted by: CapCenterholdover | July 14, 2009 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Also: In my calculations, I have Jurcina or Schultz at an estimated $1.25M. Obviously the Schultz qualifier is below that amount. The Jurcina estimate is based on him getting about what Erskine gets. I also have Sloan penciled in as the #7 d-man since he makes sense financially. If Schultz accepts his QO at around $800K and Jurcina gets my estimate, they can keep either/or, knowing Jurcina costs more. ShaMo's departure I'm assuming is foregone. Carlson could also make the club, maybe even instead of Alzner, and I have no salary figures on Carlson (especially if there is a bonus).

If Jurcina's arbitration award is a little high, the club could easily entertain trade offers while exercising the week or so they have to decide if they walk or not. But, I can't see them busting the cap to keep Jurcina if Schultz, a similar asset, can be paid around $800K. ShaMo's tenure with the Caps is on paper-thin ice and he's reaching out to drag Jurcina along.

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 14, 2009 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Interesting this, too. Only one year. He's got to prove himself this year

http://www.nowgoal.com/30.shtml

Posted by: fetrew | July 14, 2009 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Can't some of you just be friggin' fans? I cannot believe the continual Green bashing. He is by far the best offensive defenseman in the league and we are lucky as hell to have him.

Gordon signed for Just over $761K? What a bargain. His winning goal against Pittsburge at the dumpgloo last season is worth the contract he just accepted. Gordon has evolved from a player that was first tagged to be a 1st line center to a role player. He will sacrifice his body for the team, can't ask for much more than that.

Posted by: fanohock1 | July 14, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Can't some of you just be friggin' fans? I cannot believe the continual Green bashing. He is by far the best offensive defenseman in the league and we are lucky as hell to have him.

Gordon signed for just over $761K? What a bargain. His winning goal against Pittsburgh at the dumpgloo last season is worth the contract he just accepted. Gordon has evolved from a player that was first tagged to be a 1st line center to a role player. He will sacrifice his body for the team, can't ask for much more than that.

Posted by: fanohock1 | July 14, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

boyd gordon hasn't lived up to being a first round pick, but he's the type of guy you need, particularly in the playoffs. he signed for just over half of what the rangers are paying brashear. that's a bargain. would be great to have four first line centers, but thats not a reality in the salary cap era.

question, does he become a UFA at the end of the year or is he an RFA again.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 14, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

ps. regardless of what boyd does in the rest of his career, he will always be remembered as the other guy in the video of OV's goal in phoenix...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 14, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan1,
Pretty sure he's RFA again.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 14, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl: Thanks for the goalie info. Next time I'll take better notes. :)

Posted by: pstenigma | July 14, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Here is 2002 draft. There are guys ahead of Gordon who have done less, and guys behind him who have done more. He is a RFA for one more year, eligible for UFA beginning 2011-12 season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_NHL_Entry_Draft

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 14, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

When did the last group leave the ice yesterday? I'm trying to figure out what I'll be able to see if I go to the rink after work.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 14, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

pstenigma, Not a problem. I was being a dork and getting a sheet ready to take notes on the groups while I'm there and had just found out who they were and figured I'd help.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 14, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm actually surprised Gordon was unable to get a bigger contract. RFA compensation doesn't start until a 3rd Round Pick for like min of $950K salary. Gordon is certainly serviceable as a grinder and PK to think someone might have offered above the QO but below the compensation threshhold.

I guess not.

Posted by: tominfl1 | July 14, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

@thiazzi: Group B left the ice at 4:30 although a few stayed to shoot goals on their own for 10 minutes.

Posted by: pstenigma | July 14, 2009 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Crap. Guess I'll be waiting for the weekend.

Thanks for the info!

Posted by: thiazzi | July 14, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

"I'm actually surprised Gordon was unable to get a bigger contract. RFA compensation doesn't start until a 3rd Round Pick for like min of $950K salary. Gordon is certainly serviceable as a grinder and PK to think someone might have offered above the QO but below the compensation threshhold"

Anyone here think Gordo might just enjoy being with the Caps? Perhaps he could have gotten a little more money elsewhere, but he's been with this organization his whole career, labored through the rebuild, and now is on a playoff team that has a chance to do something special.

Posted by: cainoo7x | July 14, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Anyone here think Gordo might just enjoy being with the Caps? Perhaps he could have gotten a little more money elsewhere, but he's been with this organization his whole career, labored through the rebuild, and now is on a playoff team that has a chance to do something special.

Posted by: cainoo7x | July 14, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I totally agree! I think he, like B Morrison, see great potential with the caps and realizes that money is not everything...

Posted by: hbcapsfan | July 14, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Pokrface-Everybody wants to jump on him for his defense and it's baseless. He is our best skating Dman and you don't skate well in the offensive zone and forget how to skate in your defensive zone


Playing defense is more than just how you skate. And Green is lazy in his own end anyway, he skates much harder in the offensive zone. He doesn't "forget" how to skate, he just chooses to not expend a lot of effort defensively. Maybe the reason a lot of fans etc jump on his defensive play is precisely because there IS a reason. Its not "baseless" as you say. He's excited to jump up on the play because thats where all the glory is. If he was even a slightly above-average defensive player he would've beaten Chara for the Norris given how many goals he scored this season.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 14, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Anyone here think Gordo might just enjoy being with the Caps? Perhaps he could have gotten a little more money elsewhere, but he's been with this organization his whole career, labored through the rebuild, and now is on a playoff team that has a chance to do something special.

Posted by: cainoo7x | July 14, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

He's with the Caps because our coach and GM likes him. He wouldn't be a good fit on many other teams. You think Boyd Gordon could crack the top lineups in hockey? Please. He's lucky that this org likes him and he's smart enough to not try and test the waters outside. He's a 3rd/4th line kinda guy on this team (frankly Steckel should be CLEARLY ahead of Gordo on the depth chart).

On our team, Gordo should be a 4th line player who gets add'l time on the PK because of his faceoff skills and defense-first attitude. But on many other teams, he wouldn't fit in as a 4th line guy because they're looking for a different type of element on that line. They want a defensive center who is also a voracious forechecker/hitter, and probably scraps once in a while. Gordo as we all know, does not offer those attributes. He'd only be valuable to a team specifically looking for some depth at the faceoff/defensive fwd position. And many teams already that covered with similar players who are bigger, stronger and more tenacious.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 14, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

if you look at the possible lineup for the upcoming season, you'll see that Gordo is still a fringe player that could see himself becoming a healthy scratch here and there--

Ovechkin-Backs-Knuble
Semin-Morrison-Clark/Laich

That leaves Fehr, Bradley, Steckel, Flash, Laing, one of either Clark/Laich, and Osala competing for 6 other spots along with Gordon. His place on this team is far from entrenched. Clark and Laich are somewhat interchangeable on the 2nd and 3rd line RW positions. Fehr will also be given a chance to take that position. Gordo's only hope is to crack the lineup at the center position. If the Caps are smart, they leave Steck on the 3rd line and move Gordo down to the 4th. He stinks as a winger b/c his weakness is play along the boards. Players like Laing, Clark, Fehr and Osala are much better options at wing.

My hope is that Beagle really challenges for a center spot this year with Trevor Bruess waiting in the wings as well. That pushes Gordo out of a roster spot and this team maintains some defensive presence on the bottom 2 lines but also adds some size and tenacity.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 14, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

He gets 1 yr deals because the Caps don't want to commit a longer contract to him. I'm guessing they also see him as being easily replaceable. He makes sense for this team right now because he's cheap and serviceable and doesn't take penalties. But he has a very limited upside. And I like how he's described as a "grinder". lol
How often does Boyd win battles for pucks? right

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 14, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

TominFl--cstanton doesn't want the Caps to turn Carlson into what they've turned Green into - a Norris Trophy runner-up. Well, I'd happily have two Norris candidates.


sure, lets just make all our defensemen offensively-happy guys who could give 2 sh__ts about playing some D. Yes, thats the winning formula. I mean, why would we ever want to encourage a young defenseman to focus on his defensive game first. That would just be stupid.

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 14, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

He's with the Caps because our coach and GM likes him. He wouldn't be a good fit on many other teams. You think Boyd Gordon could crack the top lineups in hockey? Please. He's lucky that this org likes him and he's smart enough to not try and test the waters outside. He's a 3rd/4th line kinda guy on this team (frankly Steckel should be CLEARLY ahead of Gordo on the depth chart).

hey stanton, he already has cracked one of the top lineups in hockey, the caps. obviously he's a 3/4th line guy, which is where he plays right now. he's a top notch faceoff guy and does win puck battles. go watch a playoff game or two instead of taking your typical route of bashing every move th team makes. name another 3/4th line center you would rather have who is currently playing for less than $800K. if you havent noticed, the team is up against the cap right now. you think they should spend $2M for a marginally better 4th line center instead of making sure we have some dmen signed?

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 14, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm not trying to be lumped in with the "Green bashers", but I thought you had to play some sort of defense to be known as an 'offensive defenseman'.

Posted by: TheOriginalEgon | July 14, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the "Green bashers" just don't REALLY know what they are talking about. Are you REALLY saying that Mike Green does not know how to play his position? Enlighten us... and him!

Posted by: gonchpup | July 14, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1 - Debbie Downer from Saturday Night Live. I can't stand to read half the things this guy types. He's got a superiority complex going on that makes me wish he was another team's fan rather than a Capitals fan. Is he even a Capitals fan? (Insert his response where he's been a Capitals fan for 20 to 30 years, blah, blah, blah.)

If you insist on bashing Green, how about we give Bob Woods a chance to address those alleged deficiencies your armchair GM'ing is noting. Again, it's surprises someone with your abilities hasn't ever been snatched up by a hockey team. *rolls eyes*

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 15, 2009 5:13 AM | Report abuse

whats up with the gordo bashing??? ive always thought gordo was one of the caps' hardest working guys on the ice.he come and gives 100% every night.hes not a big scorer but thats not what hes built for.hes a grinder and a good one at that.i like ya gordo and am glad as hell to have ya on the team.GO CAPS!!!!

Posted by: gratefuldid | July 15, 2009 6:08 AM | Report abuse

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