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Caps Re-Sign Gordon

Center Boyd Gordon has signed a one-year contract worth $725,000. That's a little bit more than his qualifying offer.

That leaves Shaone Morrisonn as the only player who has yet to re-sign. He is scheduled for arbitration on July 24.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  July 11, 2008; 1:12 PM ET
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Posted by: Ben | July 11, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Now we must:

Trade Flash

Trade Jurcina

Posted by: Ben | July 11, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse #teamt

lol yay gordo!

Posted by: tim lol | July 11, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Does Fehr have to clear waivers to go back to Hershey? What about Laing?

Posted by: Wanax | July 11, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Greg Wyshynski fears Tarik El-Bashir.

Posted by: Villainaire | July 11, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Yay! don't knwo why, but I have a soft spot for Baby-faced Boyd.

Posted by: Birdie | July 11, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Wanax - i don't believe Fehr has to clear waivers because he is on a 2-way contract. i could be wrong, or there could be a certain date he has to be sent down by before having to clear. i think Laing is in the same boat.

Posted by: Ben | July 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Will they be able to afford Morrisonn?

Posted by: jak | July 11, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm told Fehr will have to pass through waivers.

Posted by: Tarik | July 11, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Boyd Gordon sucks.

Posted by: BGSucks | July 11, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse


Trade them to who? Maybe Tampa would want #23, and they'll be drafting early..

Posted by: Steve R | July 11, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

The depth at C on this team is really quite something.

There was a mention of the Aucoin signing by a columnist on ESPN saying how he would get a chance at a roster spot. Um, really?

In no particular order, Backstrom, Nylander, Fedorov, Steckel, and Gordon. Then you throw in the fact that Laich is also a C, Kozlov has a few seasons of playing C, and I don't think there's a team in the league with that sort of depth down the middle.

I am definitely curious to see how the roster takes shape (and everyone fits under the salary cap) as the season approaches.

Posted by: Jeff | July 11, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Good for depth. I don't see him getting much playing time as the 5th center on the depth chart, assuming Steckl centers the 4th line. Oddly the Caps' site has Steckl listed as a left wing but it seemed like he played most of last season as a center.

Posted by: beanboy66 | July 11, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

@Steve R,

NOW you're thinking!

Posted by: Jordan | July 11, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Why is everyone in a rush to trade off players? The caps can be over the cap until the season starts, so use training camp to weed out the guys who aren't going to make it. And since Boudreau gets his first chance to fully construct his team from the beginning, he doesn't have to stick with Hanlon's guys... not that many of them are still around, he can choose the players that best fit his system.

Posted by: Danny | July 11, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad depth signing. Gordon could play wing, can step in at center in case of an injury, or be the utility player if you feel you need another defensive-minded forward.

Posted by: John in Mpls | July 11, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse


Glad to have you back.

Posted by: on ice | July 11, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

@ Steve R:

Bingo! Trade them for picks to crappy, defense-less teams. We need to move a contract or two.

Also, to new, fake "Ben" posting at 1:24 PM - I was here first!

Posted by: Ben | July 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I like this signing. Have a soft spot in my heart for players like Gordon, Steckel, and Bradley. Not the superstars, but do their jobs.

So how much does this leave us to get to the cap? Will be real interesting to see if Mo waits for the arbitration or if something can be worked out. He kinda knows what we can and can't spend. (Of course we still may have to trade or unload or put another player on LTIR - but this does still put a more definite number on things).

Posted by: Kim | July 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Gordo is da man. Did he play with broken ribs or something in playoffs?

Posted by: Simon says | July 11, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Simon says,

Our playoff injuries as follows:

Mo - unspecified upper body
Green - ditto
Grodon - same
OV - yup, you guessed it
Schultz - there's a trend
Huet - hurt his feelings

Posted by: Steve R | July 11, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Per Tarik, Gordon's injury was revealed to be a torn hamstring. Also:

Morrissonn: broken jaw
Mike Green: hip pointer

Posted by: John in Mpls | July 11, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Which still baffles me- how can you skate with a torn hamstring??

Posted by: honed | July 11, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I guess I'm okay with them resigning Gordon. Hopefully the loyalty we show will pay off. I'm glad he didn't take an inflated estimates of his worth seriously.

But I'm still wondering how Fehr is going to react to being cornered into signing a 2-way.

That lack of confidence reminds me of 1998 when we rewarded Andrew Brunette's 23 points in 28 late season games with a trip to Portland for the playoffs and a ticket to Nashville the next year.

I mostly trust "The Office" with this stuff, but I really don't think Fehr earned a 2-way contract with his play last season.

Posted by: Defense Wins Championships. | July 11, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

@Defense Wins Championships

I don't see how Fehr can react with any animosity towards his 2-way deal. He hasn't exactly earned a 1-way contract as of yet. As you know, he missed most of the last 2 seasons due to injury.

Posted by: Leigh | July 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Taking out Pothier's salary, there's about $1.7 million left. Should be enough to fit in ShaMo.

Posted by: b.orr4 | July 11, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Boyd has been playing with broken ribs for the last 3 years. Now he has them fixed...Watch out.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I like Gordon and think you know exactly what to expect from him, he is very consitant. Great penalty killer and works hard. Just glad I dont have to make the decisions about who stays and also who plays. Not a huge Schultz fan but somehow he keeps cracking the D line-up so, what do i know... Tough choices comming up, its nice to have these kind of problems!

Posted by: Grape8 | July 11, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

@Defense Wins Championships

Fehr, as Tarik noted, does not have a two way deal. He has to clear waivers to go to Hershey. I'm hoping he makes the team out of camp this year, he impressed me during the playoffs.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | July 11, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse


You skate with a torn hamstring the same way you skate with a broken jaw and ribs - with a lot of pain and tylenol.

Posted by: Greg S. | July 11, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

There's no rush to get under the cap. We have a 10% cushion right now until the end of training camp. By the end of camp, we have to be at or under the Cap space.

That's when you'll see a lot of trades going on. People trying to pick up cheap guys to replace expensive ones.

Lots of time, boys and girls. Lots of time.

Posted by: Greg S. | July 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

@Steve R,

Pretty funny. Still waiting for the report to read "Body Injury" or perhaps the even more cryptic "Non-body injury".

Posted by: old time hockey | July 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Good for Boyd. He brings a lot to the team, especially at that price.

Posted by: keef | July 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Torn hamstring doesn't mean it is completely torn, if it is, you're dead. It is partially torn, but, boy, it is very painful to play. Gordo is da man.

Posted by: Simon says | July 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

you use something a lot more powerful than tylenol! At least, I did when I had a small tear and tried to do gymnastics at the same time.

Posted by: Birdie | July 11, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Russian Bettman (Medvedev):
Действительно, Александр Радулов уже принял предложение "Салавата Юлаева", а Никита Филатов - "Коламбуса", в то время как оба имеют действующие контракты с "Нэшвиллом" и ЦСКА соответственно. Однако соглашение с НХЛ будет действовать только после его фактического подписания. Значит, контракты, уже заключённые до этого момента, останутся в силе. Что касается защитника "Трактора" Вячеслава Войнова, собравшегося в "Лос-Анджелес", то на это у него есть 24 часа. Беспредела больше не будет ни со стороны клубов, ни со стороны игроков.

he sez the agreement between KHL and NHL will signed Monday or even before. After that nobody would tackle a player with existing contract, but since Radulov signed with KHL before (same for Filatov to NHL Columbus), they can do it.

As of Voinov who is planning to sign with LA, he has 24 hours for that.

After signing, no more.

Posted by: Simon says | July 11, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

From the sounds of it, they aren't going to have a problem with a salary cap until after the season starts. My guess is Clark won't be ready so he will go on LTIR and then when he's ready to come off of that is when we will have cap issues possibly.

Posted by: Pat | July 11, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Did everyone see the new banners outside of Kettler?

Looks really nice. I was wondering when Zednick and Kolzig were gonna come down from there in the old jersey.

Posted by: SA-Town | July 11, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Gordo also scored a shootout goal against the Panthers with a broken hand, it was a nifty move too.

He's going to have tough competition in training camp though, best of luck to him.

Posted by: captnclark | July 11, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

haha point taken, but functioning jaws aren't fundamental to your hockey game, unless you're modeling yourself after Sean Avery or something

Posted by: honed | July 11, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse


A two-way contract has nothing to do with waivers. A two-way contract simply means you get paid less if you're not on the NHL roster.

Posted by: tallbear | July 11, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse


Fehr is on a two way deal, but that is unrelated to clearing waivers. A two way deal means he is paid one salary if he is in the NHL, and a much lower salary if he is in the AHL.

You don't have to clear waivers if you are on an entry level contract, or if you are injured and sent down on a conditioning stint. This applies to guys like Shultz, Lepisto, and Alzner.

Since Fehr just signed a new contract (which happens to be 2-way), he will have to clear waivers.

Posted by: Stormblue | July 11, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Nice to read about the blue collar guys getting signed.

The team is actually worse than last year, better hope that "extra" year of experience is enough, otherwise BB is in trouble.

Posted by: Chief | July 11, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see Chief could join us

Posted by: Doug | July 11, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I agree Chief, when you have the same roster as the previous year and add a better goalie and two top six forwards return from injury, you have clearly gotten worse.

Chief = Logic Fail.

Posted by: Ben | July 11, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I just won a ten million dollar lottery. Now my damn taxes are going to go up. Life sucks.

Posted by: Chief | July 11, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it...Ovie, Federov and Semin on the same line for Russia, and they win the gold. But they can't skate together for the Caps??
I know, people say it won't work because the other team will put their checking line on them. So..? You're assuming the other team's defense will stone that line?
You kiddin' me??

Posted by: SC Capsfan | July 11, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

@SC Capsfan,

Fedorov is 38 years old. I can't see him keeping up with the speed of the game that Ovey brings it every single shift. Sure, it could work in spurts, but I don't think that's a season long solution. I can see Boudreau sticking those guys together at the end of a game looking for a tying or lead goal though.

Posted by: Leigh | July 11, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse


They're a big deal when you're getting a shoulder thrown at it constantly.

Posted by: keef | July 11, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

@tallbear and stormblue

Thanks for the clarification, had a bit of confusion there. I know the whole thing about 2 way deals paying differently, and just got around to reading Tarik's article.

Camp can't come soon enough, that's where we'll know how the team will shape up, and who gets cut to meet the cap.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | July 11, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

@SC Capsfan

It's not the issue of the top line checking against them, it's a matter of spreading your scoring out to multiple lines.

Also, let the Nicky/Ovie chemistry continue to grow. That pair could be together for a long time.

Posted by: keef | July 11, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

@ Leigh,

Have you seen Ovechkam?
I really doubt Fedorov has a hard time keeping up with Ovechkin camping between red and blue line.
Ovechkin is becoming more and more of a 1trick pony, fly down the left wing and shoot through defense. Knocking someone out in the process and get a goal 2 out of 10 tries.
So yeah, Fedorov can do it. If Kozlov can, Fedorov can :)

Posted by: SlavaKM | July 11, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse


That one trick pony had 65 goals last season. If he can keep that output up, he could be Mr. Ed for all I care.

Any updates from commenters at Kettler? I want to hear some rookie camp stuff if possible.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | July 11, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

better than Cryin' Crosby's one trick: skate forward, dive like he's a member of the Olympic 10-meter platform team, and then whine like an 8 year old who was sent to bed with no dessert.

Posted by: Birdie | July 11, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Nice to read about the blue collar guys getting signed.

The team is actually worse than last year, better hope that "extra" year of experience is enough, otherwise BB is in trouble.

Posted by: Chief | July 11, 2008 2:58 PM

I've finally figured it out. "Chief" is just another screen name for "DC Man88." The unrelenting negativity is there; the only thing missing is the "Gilby" fixation.

Posted by: rbpalmer | July 11, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

The Caps should only pay Boyd Gordon for face-off and thats it...He is god awful

Posted by: the DUDE | July 11, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

One trick pony? He can score from anywhere on the ice, in just about every way possible. You can't be that stupid, I refuse to believe it.

Posted by: Ben | July 11, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

If his one trick is to score, then we should be all for that trick! Isn't that the point of hockey anyway? To score more goals than the other team? Until the defense of the other teams learns how to stop his "trick", well I think there is no reason to learn another one.

Posted by: Greg T | July 11, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm a one trick mandrill... moving on...

Posted by: JSchon | July 11, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Tampa owner Len Barrie has predicted Tampa wins the division..what a joke..

Posted by: Jake | July 11, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Nylander is a waste.
Poti is a waste.
Pothier should have never been signed, especially for that amount.
Clymer is a funny joke.

Now add Feds at 4 Million and Jozy the loser, that sums up the way Caps handle the construction of a team, well done.

Erskine & Jurcina are great !!!!!!!


Posted by: Chief | July 11, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

For all you Gordon haters, you should check out Japer's (and no, I am not affiliated with his site, he just has a lot of really good analysis).

JP shows, with actual analysis, how important Gordon was to the team last season. While scoring goals is fantastic, keeping the other team from scoring is pretty important too.

Posted by: Jeff | July 11, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Gordo is a dead ringer for mma fighter Nick Diaz.

Posted by: fashi13 | July 11, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I wish Chief had his own blog...unlike all the other Caps blogs out there it would be completely unique every day!

He would contribute so many creative thoughts and ideas!


Posted by: Jeff | July 11, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Pick the team Chief really roots for. My money's on Pittsburgh with Philly a close second.

Posted by: b.orr4 | July 11, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

By my count, we have $1,018,899 left under the cap.

This is with the following players on the roster...
1)Ovechkin $9,538462
2) Green $5,250,000
3) Nylaner $4,875,000
4) Semin $4,600,000
5) Theodore $4,500,000
6) Fedorov $4,000,000
7) Poti $3,500,000
8) Clark $2,633,333
9) Kozlov $2,500,000
10) Backstrom $ 2,400,000
11) Laich $2,066,667
12) Alzner $1,675,000
13) Brashear $1,200,000
14) Bradley $1,000,000
15) Jurcina $881,250
16) Johnson $812,500
17) Schultz $763,889
18) Fehr $735,000
19) Gordon $725,000
20) Flash $725,000
21) Steckel $512,000
22) Erskine $537,500

that + the clymer buy out hit of 250K = $55,681,101 in committed salary cap hits for next season.

It is going to take more than $1,018,899 to sign Mo. Do the caps start Alzner in hershey for as long as possible to keep the salary cap down? It is calculated each day so running a 21 or 22 man roster intead of a 23 man roster could help the overall cap situation down the road but wouldn't be enough to clear space for trade deadline moves.

If Clark isn't ready until December like some have speculated (pure speculation at this point) that would provide some cap relief as well.

Something has to give, the question is what?

trading Flash and Erskine as many have called for doesn't help much. It eliminates two of your cheaper cap numbers, and those players would have to be replaced with somebody.

If Erskine was replaced by an NHL minimum guy we'd only be saving like $62,500. If Flash was replaced by an NHL minimum guy we'd save $250,000. Thats only a combined Cap Hit savings of $312,500 and that ain't much.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 11, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Hello to Chief! As I've announced before, there is a casting call for trolls for the upcoming new version of "The Hobbit". We definitely think you possess the necessary qualities to get some work on the movie set. Please get in touch!

Posted by: Bilbo Baggins | July 11, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

OT: Radulov signed in Russia. Is anyone else worried about players leaving to play in the KHL?

Posted by: Finn | July 11, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Why bother signing Gordon?

Remember how this guy was an absolute steal at #17 overall b/c Hunter told us to take him?? yeah - what a deal!

Caps should have went out and got a tough defenseman. Our d is a bunch of pansies and the one who isn't "Erskine" should be playing on my beer league team.

Posted by: Bruno | July 11, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Finn -- I think if Semin were in Radulov's situation (vastly underpaid and on a team with no other country-men) I would be concerned with him heading back to Russia.

As is, there are probably a number of players across the league who may listen to offers from the KHL, but I don't think it's much of an issue for the Caps (as Fedorov reportedly turned down an offer from the KHL to stay in DC).

And honestly, I could care less if other teams lose some of their better players to the KHL. :-)

Posted by: Jeff | July 11, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse


The NHL and KHL apparently just reached an agreement not to poach each other's players who are under contract or who's teams have rights to them (like an RFA situation). Radulov slipped by just before the agreement took effect. Conversely, the KHL was raising some sort of hell about Columbus signing Filatov despite him having some sort of obligation to his Russian team, so I guess it goes both ways...

I think the Russians have decided to call it even with the Radulov and Filatov situations. Dunno if the Americans are going to do the same, but it's an interesting situation nonetheless.

Posted by: HolyOlie | July 11, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand Buttman's whining...

Posted by: Finn | July 11, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

....aaaaaand the other shoe falls in Tampa:

sounds like someone wasn't drinking the Snyderesque Kool-Aid

Posted by: bigonetimer | July 11, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Talkin about Simeon Varlamov's name again...

IIHF spokesman Szymon Szemberg said neither the IIHF nor the NHL has received any official documentation concerning the Radulov signing and all his organization has to rely on are media reports.

Very interesting, Szymon, a Swiss version of the name Семён


Posted by: Simon Says | July 11, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Unconfirmed reports suggest that Russian Star Winger Ilya Kovalchuk may be heading to Vancouver.

The report suggests that Atlanta GM Don Waddell is in close contact with Mike Gillis, and since both teams were unsuccessful in the signing of UFA in the past week, they are negotiating a swap with the Sedin twins going the other way.

Kovalchuk has openly criticized the lack of success of the Thrashers organization, and demanded that imminent changes be made to the line-up or else he would not consider signing back with Atlanta when his contract expires in 2010.

Posted by: Simon says | July 11, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

not sure where else to post this,
but i kept a score / stat sheet for
Thursday's scrimmage.

(I'm sure i missed a few things)

here are a few highlights

-- WHITE TEAM - Group A

G-30-Simeon Varlamov - 17 saves - 2 ga
LW-48-Oscar Osala - 1g, 6 shots, 3 missed
C-51-Nikita Kashirsky - 1g, 3 shots, 2 PIM
LW-58-Maxime Lacroix - 3 shots, 1 missed
D-47-Karl Alzner - game tying assist

-- BLUE TEAM - Group B

G-70-Braden Holtby - 16 saves, 3 ga
D-74-John Carlson - 5 shots, hit pipe once
C-79-Joel Broda - 3 shots, 2 hits
C-42-Jake Hauswirth - 1g, 3 shot, 3 missed
LW-91-Greg Burke - 2 assists, 4 shots
RW-63-Andrew Gordon - 1g, 4 shots, 3 hits

I'll post all the stats if you care to see!

Posted by: galu | July 11, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

tomorrow is going to be fun... I suggest everyone going get there by 9amish... and we can make up chants for tarik... like T E B... or El Bashir... or hip hop bashir....

Posted by: JSchon | July 11, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I was kidding about the hip hop bashir... but dead serious about everything else...

Posted by: JSchon | July 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse


King Tarik :D

Posted by: mauree | July 11, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

and so that everybody can recognize eachother... I suggest we all wear something completely original.... like sombrero guy... I will be in leiderhoessen... leiderhoessen guy...

Posted by: JSchon | July 11, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

king tarik doesn't roll off of the tongue... maybe fear bashir?

Posted by: JSchon | July 11, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

JSchon wearing leiderhossen....that just isn't good for anyone.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 11, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

The Caps are deeper this year than last (with Nylander and, hopefully, Clark returning). With talent emerging in Hershey, competition to make the roster is even tighter. I think many folks aren't giving Gordo enough credit for the important role he played last year, particularly on the PK before Feds and Cooke arrived. He is a solid depth player and NHL caliber. My guess is that he doesn't have a long-term future as a Cap, but he has a lot of heart and plenty of teams could use him. This is a sign that the Caps are truly on the rise.

Posted by: TJ2 | July 11, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: get your own team | July 11, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

I luv all caps, little upset ?
Coward ? Why ?

Goaltender sucks and everyone knows it or refuses to admit it.

Rest of team might be a year older, however I do not recall that being a guaranty for an improvement.

I believe we have the perfect combination in place for a disaster of a season, unless additional moves are made

Posted by: Chief | July 11, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse


Stop replying to Chief.

It's been going on forever and it's old. He's a broken record and never backs up his claims, he's not worth your energy.

Posted by: keef | July 11, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Where do you guys keep getting this Alzner for $1,675,000 this year stuff?

He's at $875,000 for 3 years.

What's with this mystery math?

Posted by: Defense Wins Championships. | July 11, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Fact, Theodore is a down grade.
Fact, Huey was primary focus, yet Caps FAILED to sign him.

Fact, aside from a raise handed out to everyone, the team IS the same.

Last time I looked, players always play better when looking for a contract, rather than after getting greased.

Hey, don't believe me, just Keep on believing. hehe.

Posted by: Chief | July 11, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

@Defense Wins Championships.

It's probably his cap hit with bonuses/incentives.

Posted by: keef | July 11, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Are you proud of yourself? He's posted twice in 12 minutes because of you.

Unfortunately he can't be tazed. We just have to treat him like poison ivy. If you keep responding to the taunts the suffering is prolonged.

If he is completely ignored for long enough, he will crawl back in his toolbox and remain there.

Posted by: Defense Wins Championships. | July 11, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

@Sombrero Guy
Where did you get the additional cap hit data? and dont reflect any hit beyond the standard entry-level contract.

Posted by: Defense Wins Championships. | July 11, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse clearly lists him at 1.675:

Posted by: keef | July 11, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Alzner's rookie bonuses are included in his contract numbers by nhlscap and nhlnumbers. That explains the extra 800K.

Posted by: pga3 | July 11, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

@Defense wins....

Yeah, as others noted any possible bonuses must be included in a players Cap number. Backstrom's salary is $850K but his cap number is $2.4 million because of all the bonuses and incentives.

Ovechkin's salary last year was only $984K but his Cap Number was $3.834 Million because of all the bonuses, which I assume he met haha.

If you look on you'll see the salary listed each year, but the column to the left is the important one, the cap number.

I prefer which recently agreed to affiliate with hockey buzz. I know that Eklund is a joke, but is simply hard numbers that they are lending to hockey buzz, and they include info on all of the minor leaguers and prospects.

I've hooked up some of you, but if anybody else wants a copy of the simple spread sheet e-mail me at blwiseass at yahoo dot com and I'll send it along.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 11, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Sombrero Guy: Excellent analysis on the cap amount remaining, you hit it dead on. One point is they are not required I believe to carry 23, which would always yield 3 scratches. All of the 22 you list + Mo are NHL roster players. Only solution once they sign Mo (assuming over $1.018M) is a trade. As a for instance they could trade Jurcina and save his money and then only have Lepisto up when needed.

Also - some have mentioned Clark like he can be LTIR for a month or so. I don't know the specifics of LTIR. Since the Caps have always been way under the cap since the CBA was signed, I never bothered to learn this stuff. Anyway, maybe someone with knowledge can explain if LTIR is "all year" or "half year" or whatever. As a for instance, Clark missed the final 50 or so games except for one vs Philly and he was a full cap hit last year. Or maybe they didn't apply for exemption since they were so far under?

I know players are routinely put on "injured reserve," but this is so they can over 23 temporarily on the roster and not for LTIR.

With the team so close on the cap, there will doubtless be some shuffling during camp. You just can't be that close as they are due to times you need an injury replacement. They can't move Nylander so my money is on Kozzie.

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 11, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

A long term injury is one that is going to cause a player to miss at leats 10 games and 24 days. The player still counts against the cap, but the team can file for an exemption to exceed the cap.

A good write up explaining it can be found here

keep in mind the figures they give were either from the CBA's first season, or from last season

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 11, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Also, someone posted yesterday Eastern Conf predictions and they put the Caps behind New Jersey. All things equal, Caps should beat NJ in regular season pts. If no other reason, Caps vs SE is easier than NJ vs Atlantic.

It's really a crapshoot though. Way too early to start putting 1 through 15 exactly. You can put them in bunches:

Elite - Mont, Pitt, NYR, NJ, Caps, Philly
Midrange - Boston, Ottawa, Carolina
Almost - Buffalo, Tampa
Need Help - Florida, Atlanta, Toronto, Islanders

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 11, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Tom, you forgot to put TB in with the Elite since they're winning the division this year.

Posted by: keef | July 11, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

OK, I see why they did it that way. Pothier would stii count against the Players' Share. I posted the other day how at the end of the year they take actual revenue and divide by the Players' Share and it must fit into a range, otherwise player salaries in total are increased percentage wise or decreased. The Caps didn't do that last year because they didn't need to. So, if Pothier or Clark were to miss ten games or more - relief.

Obviously someone in the organization this year will be tasked to monitor this. Maybe at some point Tarik can interview the "Cap Dude" (or Gal) and have that person explain their job.

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 11, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

How come the Caps STILL haven't announced the Fedorov signing. I might have missed it, but from the looks of the Caps sight Fedorov has yet to physically sign with the Caps.

Posted by: No announcement? | July 11, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

keef: God, really, I forgot about that. How stupid of me. That's right, the owner pulled a Messier and guaranteed 1st Place.

Let's just agree that Tampa gets put in their "own category."

Sombrero Guy: I just had a shot of tequila. I don't however own a sombrero.

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 11, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse


I should have bought that kilt I was thinking about. I would have been set for tomorrow. Now instead of "Kilt Dude", I'll have to settle for "Guy in cammo shorts". That sucks. 9am?

Posted by: Steve R | July 11, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

@Tom in FL

haha cheers. I just had a couple molson canadians on the patio with aunts uncles and cousins. Came inside to escape the mosquitos the size of small birds. One of many reasons why I like living in a city.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 11, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

@Steve R

You could be "business casual guy". That'll stick out at the Verizon Center...right?

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 11, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow ... I disappear for awhile and Capitals Insider becomes Capitol Fashion. I don't have a sombrero, kilt or Lederhosen (the correct spelling, BTW ... leiderhossen = sadly hossen :-)). Guess I can't go (I knew I should have asked about the dress code earlier).

I never replied to some old posts addressed to me ... sorry 'bout that, but things got crazy hectic. Anyway, they are way buried now so I guess I will have to stir up new trouble!! ;-)

What was the general buzz about Fed - does everyone think he is worth $4M or not?

Posted by: Boo! | July 11, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

As time and these conversations grind on, I find myself being a Gordon apologizer. Maybe not an apologizer. All I'm saying is two seasons ago, when we really sucked, he was a +5. Last year he was a +10. If he's a +20 next season will the detractors subside? I mean, have we gotten so greedy that we cast off + players?

Posted by: oo7 | July 11, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse


Welcome back :)

Posted by: mauree | July 11, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

good one sombrero

Posted by: Steve R | July 11, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else other than me worried what Mo's arbitration number might be? I mean, he's the closest thing to a stay at home defender we have. He does all the dirty work while Green is pinching (and playing some ole defense too). If these GMs are giveing relative unknowns big deals, isn't that going to make his arb number pretty big? He makes about $1M now right? Could be a big raise. How are we on cap space?

An aside... didn't the man play with a broken jaw and a dislocated shoulder in the playoffs? C'mon, give the guy what he wants.

Posted by: Phil C. | July 11, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I had no idea that Joe-Zay was Huet's backup.

"I always like my hair real long and I like to keep it long as long as possible," said Theodore, who served as backup against the Sabres as Cristobal Huet made his fifth consecutive start.

Posted by: Simon says | July 12, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Remember when we didn't even dream about getting even near the cap?

Sorry chef - u r wrong & brain dead @ that.

Posted by: OllieMollie | July 12, 2008 3:21 AM | Report abuse


THe only problem with Gordon is Steckel came up and seemed to do what Gordon did (4th line center) with better faceoff skill and with a little more offense.

At 725 Gordo is a fine value. I'm the one who says move Kozzie.

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 12, 2008 4:45 AM | Report abuse

Boyd Gordon is fine... but he was drafted 17th overall... not 17th in the 6th round, which is what he is... Cam Ward was available... He is marginal... extremely marginal...

Great on face-offs, plays solid if uninspiring defense... Where is the guy who lit up WHL?

Posted by: JSchon | July 12, 2008 7:29 AM | Report abuse

So no comments on Fed? Are you guys gonna make me dig through old posts to find out what everyone thought of that deal?!? ;-)

(Thanks for the welcome back, Mauree! Nice to "see" you!! :-D)

Posted by: Boo! | July 12, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse


Everyone loves Fed's except Chief...

its 50/50 on if we spent too much to get him... But we are all happy to have him...

I think we over spent, but its only a 1 yr contract... next season we will have over $12 to $13M in salary cap space if the cap doesnt move and 1 person we should resign... Steckel...

Posted by: JSchon | July 12, 2008 7:48 AM | Report abuse


I'm thrilled about Fedorov. He might be expensive but it is not my money. He has skill, crowd appeal, is great with young players , & is filled with "intangibles". I just like watching him play & I'm glad he is playing with the Caps.

Posted by: uncatim | July 12, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like we are on the same page. I like Fed a lot and think he added exactly what we needed last season. He is our new elder statesman and is especially good for the younger (Russian) players. I'm just surprised we payed $4M for him. If he maintains his level of play and we want to keep him in 09/10, I think we should be paying more like half that amount. Regardless, I am happy to see him coming back. I don't suppose that that deal could have happened if Huet came back (seeing as we have at least one more deal to ink, and not a lot of cap space left). I am SO ready for September ... maybe we will have a decent pre-season turn out this year?!? Go Caps!! :-D

Posted by: Boo! | July 12, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse


I'm glad to see Feds back, though the $ is more than I expected. We are deeeeep at center.

Who all is going to Kettler?

Posted by: Steve R | July 12, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse


I am glad Feds is back but wish it was for 3 million rather than 4. That would have left us without any Cap issues.


Check out my post from 7/11 at 3:58 p.m. for a breakdown of our cap situation

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 12, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Heading to Kettler now. I'll be the one in red...

Posted by: Jill | July 12, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

The notion was put forth that Boyd Gordon was only worth a 6th round pick.

Here are your 2003 6th Round picks and you can all judge that statement:

When Gordon was drafted they said right at the time he would be a checking line guy. He might well end up like Chris Clark - 10 goals, 10 goals, 10 goals - then a breakout. Or maybe he'll never have a breakout. The Caps really reached at #17, but the guy is a decent player.

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 12, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Thanks Jill, you should be easy to spot, I'll keep an eye out for you...

Posted by: Steve R | July 12, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Everyone going to Kettler, keep your eye on #42. Hes a beast and very enjoyable to watch.

Posted by: Roger #94 | July 12, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

@ Roger #94

When will you be changing from Roger #94 to Roger #42? Inquiring minds would like to know!

Also to all you luck commentors going to Kettler, I insist on updates on the scrimmage!

The 3v3 adult hockey is fun stuff, I'll ask one last time, is anyone doing that at Kettler currently?

Posted by: CapsCorndog | July 12, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Steve R. is on his way, and will be giving me updates. He wants to meet up with any of you lucky peeps going. Let me know who is there.

Posted by: Leeguru | July 12, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

1-0 at the end of the 1st.

Posted by: Jill | July 12, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I am told there was an imposter sombrero guy at KCI today. What's the world coming to?

Posted by: Sombrero guy | July 12, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Anyone care to offer an update? Who scored for what team? Is Brooks Laich there yet staring down the youths into never thinking about taking his roster spot? Curing cancer with his tears?

Posted by: CapsCorndog | July 12, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Pothier and the team needs to make a decision regarding his career. His injury isn't just about his career but his life. If he can't move for days as mentioned in the post article the guy really needs to consider shutting it down for good and starting to move into a scouting or some type of front office role. I think Ted and GMGM would be willing to help in giving him that role. $2.5 million against the cap for a guy who has not seen the ice in over a year. I have no ill will for the man but we need to be able to compensate Mo and have some room, if needed, at the trade deadline. As for Clark, I am willing to wait and see if he can get back on the ice. He is much closer to that than Pothier has been.

Posted by: straub21 | July 12, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Sombrero Guy,

Have you loaned out the sombrero? Steve R has spotted a young lady sporting one...

Posted by: Leeguru | July 12, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse


I would never on any circumstances lend out the lucky sombrero. Does England lend out the crown jewels? Some things are just too precious to put into the hands of a stranger. We have an imposter in our midst....

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 12, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Sombrero, I have passed the message to Steve, he will rectify the situation!

Posted by: Leeguru | July 12, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

So what's the crowd like? Super packed? Nobody reporting up there, huh?

I have an exam Monday. Can't afford to go to KCI.

Posted by: Defense Wins Championships. | July 12, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse


clearly she saw this

and was hoping to meet me. Despite the less than flattering photo.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 12, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

According to Steve, it is PACKED. Ice is good (Better than the Phone Booth) and the building is cold. Alzner skates well, Oscar something or other looks good on left wing.

Posted by: Leeguru | July 12, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

i kid..i kid....

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 12, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I read your moment in the sun. Right after the Chief article. She is obviously a groupie

Posted by: Leeguru | July 12, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Blue goal by #15 in hearts #42 on the is Hauswirth.... White goals by Krug and Lacroix... 2-1 9minutes left in the 3rd... GMGM... Teddy and BB are heckling the players from the eagles nest

Posted by: JSchon | July 12, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Just got a call from my buddy I split season tickets with. He said someone is there SELLING Sombreros. WTF mate? I demand royalties.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 12, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Sombrero Guy, perhaps she's not an impostor, but your one true destined love.


Are they making fun of Alzner's mustache? Teasing Perrault for his height (or lack thereof)?

This Hauswirth guy has made an impression on camp it seems.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | July 12, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

My bet is that it's Applebaum trying to supplement her income and page views.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | July 12, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Although not standing out quite like Hauswirth has, Krug has done well. He was the focus of the action every shift I saw him play.

Posted by: Defense Wins Championships. | July 12, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

So has Carlson made an impact on the scrimmage?

Posted by: Defense Wins Championships. | July 12, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Here are Chris Clark's stats:;_ylt=AmSsoC.YSyS0VhOWYID8dBpivLYF

As you can see, from age 24-31 Clark scored 5-10-10-10-20-30-5 (injured) for 90 goals. I guess we can all agree Clark is a decent player.

To give up on a 24-year-old given the fine performance to date is a huge mistake. Not all NHL players come shooting out the gate like OV and Semin. Players whose forte is based on defense first take longer to develop.

Boyd Gordon is 24. I will predict that over the next 7 years, by the time he turns 31, he will score roughly 90 goals and equal "Chris Clark" value. Gordon also brings valuable PK performance and is a "plus" player.

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 12, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Here is the first round from 2002:

As you can see, some players were pretty much busts and many are still developing. Would have been nice had the Caps hit homeruns with Emmy (#12) and Gordon (#17) like with Semin (#13). At least we did better than Ottawa with Jacob Klesis (#!6 - oops, he became our guy). Sure, you can find someone picked after Gordon who has done better - but you can easily find several players picked before Gordon who did worse.

Gordon will likely be a solid NHL contributor for years to come. I can easily see him playing 3rd or 4th line on a Cup contending team. The one thing he doesn't do is make mistakes. Sure, one minute left in the game, Caps down by a goal, I want Semin on the ice. However, one minute left and the Caps up by a goal - I'll take Gordon. And I'll bet BB will too.

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 12, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

There were several people there in sombreros!

The equipment sale checkout line was HUGE - stand in that and you'd miss the whole scrimage!

I only saw the first two periods, but standouts included Osala, who threw some nice hits and also scrummed a bit with Carlson, and Alzner who had a great breakup and clear to thwart a 5-3 powerplay.

Not a lot of offense in the game, but that's to be expected with the majority of the top prospects being D-men.

Posted by: Stormblue | July 12, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

@ Tom in FL

I think it's worth nothing that Eminger was later traded for the pick that became Carlson and he may well be a knock out in years to come on the blue line. Gordo is undervalued, but he does seem to be the odd man out this year. Maybe he can prove us wrong and push Steckel back out, who knows. He's got great hockey sense and uses it to play a smart defensive game.

Semin was indeed the home run of that draft, hopefully after this extension is up we can get him to sign on a longer term one.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | July 12, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse


Since Eminger was traded with a 3rd round pick to get like the 27th pick, we technically lost value in him. Kinda like buying a stock at $4 and then it's worth $2 (don't I know it with 9000 shares of Sirius Sat Radio - shows how astute I am).

If Carlson though turns into something special like Mike Green, all is fine.

In the end though before they move Gordo at $725K, there are other players more likely to be moved. They really need to move one D (very likely Jurcina or you just leave Alzner in Hershey) and one F. Then you have 21 NHL contracts on the roster and you can bring up Laing and Lepisto as needed (two-way deals, no waivers). I would hate to move Gordon since he gives potential and performance at value, just like Steckel. I have soured on Kozzie to some extent because he disappears at times. Same thing with Flash.

Once Mo is signed, I believe the cap can work by simply trading Flash and Jurcina. You have then 13 forwards and 6 D, with Lepisto the call-up. If you traded Kozzie and Jurcina you'd hope to bring back a solid stay-at-home, hard-hitting D at like $2M and the cap works too with then Erskine as the 7th D.

Posted by: Tom in FL | July 12, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Tom in FL - agreed. Only issue I see is Juice is the only blueliner that takes the body. Alzner will get a sweater in October, and Pothier will be on LDL at a minimum. IMO it makes more sense to move Koz and/or Poti and bring up Lepisto and keep Fehr dressed. If Fehr goes to waivers, he'll get picked up. There's more upside in Flash than Koz imo.

Posted by: pch49 | July 12, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse


Erskine is also pretty good at taking the body. And as for Jurcina, he takes the body but gives up the puck. He's a good skater though so you never know if he will step up. As for Lepisto, I thought he was overmatched during those 5-6 games he played. I'd feel extremely uncomfortable moving him and bringing up Lepisto.

Discounting Pothier, as of now we have only three Top 4 D: Poti, Green and Mo. Alzner is a question mark. Schultz is a third pair guy, or at least he was last year. Erskine and Jurcina were marginal third pair I thought, easily scratches on teams with a really good defense. I liked Erskine's demeanor though.

I believe the Caps might well lead the NHL in goals and it will be defense and goaltending that determine how far they go.

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Posted by: carrie | July 15, 2008 4:14 AM | Report abuse

boyd is one of the good guys left in the nhl? He is a normal guy who hasnt let hockey go to his head. Good luck to him this season. you are the best on the ice and off!

Posted by: mjm | July 18, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

boyd is one of the good guys left in the nhl? He is a normal guy who hasnt let hockey go to his head. Good luck to him this season. you are the best on the ice and off!

Posted by: mjm | July 18, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

boyd is one of the good guys left in the nhl? He is a normal guy who hasnt let hockey go to his head. Good luck to him this season. you are the best on the ice and off!

Posted by: mjm | July 18, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

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