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Caps sign goalie Dany Sabourin

The Caps didn't make a big move on Day 1 of free agency, but they did make a move late yesterday, signing veteran goalie Dany Sabourin.

Sabourin signed a one-year, two-way contract that will pay him $525,000 when he's in the NHL. George McPhee has not commented on the signing yet, but the GM recently said 22-year-olds Semyon Varlamov and Michal Neuvirth will be the team's netminding tandem next season.

So it would appear that Sabourin is an insurance policy who's tagged for the minor league Bears and will play in Washington only if Varlamov or Neuvirth are injured or if one of the youngsters struggles.

Sabourin, 29, spent the entire 2009-10 season the AHL, but has played in 57 NHL games, including a combined 43 in the 2008-09 and 2009-08 campaigns for the Penguins.

The Quebec native will earn $250,000 in Hershey, according to capgeek.com.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  July 2, 2010; 9:03 AM ET
 
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Oh man, after all the hysterics yesterday, it is hard to tell how many of the posters here even made it through the night. Now, the survivors will log in to see this? It is going to be ugly on here today.

Posted by: _Mark | July 2, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Ladies and Gentlemen, you're insurance policy in goal!

Posted by: freakinandpeakin | July 2, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Well he is cheap and Varly has an injury history, so not bad at all.

Posted by: Hazz | July 2, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

YES FTW! Happy now?

I hope this will shut everybody up!


Quote from GMGM (this is for you buddy):
"We got our man!"


lol

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 2, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

I guess since the Pens have Johnson as a backup, it makes sense for us to get the former Pens backup...

Buy for insurance, I guess. Personally, I'd like to see what Holtby could do for the Bears next year. I guess management isn't going to rush him.

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | July 2, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

This is not funny at all!!!

Posted by: instinct227 | July 2, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I guess it's good to remember that it's a long summer. On another blog I read an interesting fact: Lang signed w/the Yotes last year on 9/29.

Posted by: vafan3 | July 2, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

He will likely split time with Holtby at the start of the season and be the backup after the first 1/4 of the season. Like Cassivi in 2006.

Posted by: lornemyoung | July 2, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Can the Post replace the picture of Stanislav Galiev with a picture of Dany Sabourin now? I am tired of going to the NHL section of the Sports page and seeing the same photo of this grinning dummy coming through a curtain.

Posted by: pyoung66 | July 2, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm still interested to see what happens with Kovalchuk. The Kings make the most sense but I do wonder if some unknown team will sneak in or if Kovalchuk will sign a Hossa like deal(the one with Detroit) and then move on the year after.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

All right Sabourin! First Las Vegas Wrangler to sign a contract with the Caps (at least, as far as I know).

Posted by: wmsheppa | July 2, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to say that:

1. In 20010-11 we will be in a dogfight for SE Div title with Atlanta, and may or may not win it -- we will make the playoffs only to not go very far

2. Next year, we miss the playoffs - make book on that.

What McPhee and Leonsis don't get is that when you build a core, there is a window, you have to turbo charge it with a Marian Hossa, John Madden, and in some ways Christobal Huet (to use the Chicago rebuild analogy). You can't rebuild and supplementing with unproven talent. Eventually that becomes like running on a treadmill at 6 mph. Seems like you are going places, but you are exactly where you were: on flight out of IAD to Moscow in early May

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | July 2, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

So now after 2 years of FAILING!!!!!!!!! In the play offs when there has been so much hype about the Caps. Let’s not even mention the cup we were to win last year right. For two years the GLARING hole in the team has been a stay at home defense man or as close to one as you can find in today’s game.
Is GM GM watching the same team as the rest of us? I am lucky to often stand and shoot the breeze with my friend Mark and Rod Langway. Last season I watch with these guys so many times as our D fell on its face, I can't even start to think how Rod must feel watching them and now today after GM GM slept thru the day when 4 of the top D men were out there to be had we find out we got another goalie. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is GM GM planning on having our D be goalies in full pads? I guess that’s one way Sloan could block a shot but Green can't stay on his skates as it is how would he handle pads.
I start to wonder, the club is going into it 36 season, will we ever see the cup here. And forget winning the winter classic we will get spanked.

Posted by: bqts | July 2, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I understand the cap constraints GMGM continues to refernce, and I further understand the need to keep young, developing players in the system. But what is our strategy here? This team is not better than it was last year; and, what is being done to realize championship aspirations?

Four game sever series in which the caps either didn;t play to thier ptential, or failed to close people out - things championship-calibur teams do. Our system isn't goig to change, and neither will the post-season results. Our window is closing. Last year should have been "the year." After next season we lose Semin - for nothing - and with escalating payrolls. I am not sold on our center prospects being able to help anytime soon. My fear is that George - and Ted - would be happy with a good regulart season team that perennially makes the playoffs than a cup winner that wanes from time to time - like most all of them do.

This league - and the cap - ensure teams are not bult for longevity. Cup winnners have to take risks and go for it.....a decline usually follows in the years following - see Anaheim, Tampa, Carolina,a nd to a lesser extent, Detroit.

What kills me is the four worst teams from five years ago (Wash, Pitt, Chi & Phil) have the following post-season records:

Pitt: Two Conference final berths; two Stanley Cup final appearances; 1 Stanley Cup.

Phil: Two Conference final berths; one stanley cup final appearance.

Chi: Two conference final beths; one STanley cup final appearance; 1 Stanley Cup.

Wash: three conference quaterfinal appearances; one conferene semi-final appearance.

Something isn't working, and its the team's system and the General Manager's inability - and unwillingness - to fix it.

As of now, Pitt is a better team than Washington despite thier lack of scoring fro the wing; thier defense has been significanty upgraded which, arguably, was thier achillies heal last season. Our D has not - and won't - improved. and I have a feeling we'll hear another "we'll be better" speech from Ted sometime in late April next year.

Posted by: Dave28 | July 2, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I don't know why I even bother to read comments on here in the offseason...

"Let me be the first to say that:

1. In 20010-11 we will be in a dogfight for SE Div title with Atlanta, and may or may not win it -- we will make the playoffs only to not go very far

2. Next year, we miss the playoffs - make book on that.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst"


Really? REALLY?

Posted by: butcherbaker | July 2, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Read elsewhere that the Bolts probably will won't resign Konopka. I'd love to have him here. He doesn't address the 2C issues, but I think you plug him on the 3rd or 4th line as needed. Real good faceoff percentage, great in the room, and adds some toughness and leadership. Loves to compete, and plays with an edge and attitude. He'll fight when needed and give Brads a break from time to time. We need some of what he brings. I think he'd be great here, and I think the guys in the room would love him.

He's the kind of depth guy that would probably help tremendously in the playoffs. His game is suited to that style of play.

Posted by: Fletch22 | July 2, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Oh noes the sky is falling. We had a historical season last year (granted with a horrible performance in the playoffs) and have made very little changes in the off-season. Why would anyone assume the worst? We'll do fine and I see no problems reclaiming the SE-title again.

For those worried about D we're bringing up two amazing D and we need to see how they'll perform with a full season in the Bigs. Also, check out our Shots Against last year and as that compares to the rest of the league, then come back and whine.

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Our D has not - and won't - improved. and I have a feeling we'll hear another "we'll be better" speech from Ted sometime in late April next year.

Posted by: Dave28

Have to disagree with you: we have Carlson and Alzner joining the lineup.

The Pens made some savvy moves yesterday but they had to. Hamhuis didn't want to sign there, Gonchar was gone, Scudari hole from previous season hadn't yet been filled, and they didn't have defensive prospects to bring up.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | July 2, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

@fletch22
No thanks. When Konopka was in the minors he was the biggest a-hole in the league.

Posted by: tess2201 | July 2, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

@wmsheppa

Sorry, Tyler Sloan has the distinction of being the first former Las Vegas Wrangler to play for the Caps.

http://capitals.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8468846

Posted by: CapsNut | July 2, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

All this talk about how bad we are going to be in the next year or two is just completely idiotic, I will be the first to say we need a stay at home defenseman but we really don't need that to win in the regular season. GMGM can keep this team the exact same as it is now and it will compete for a top spot in the east for many years. Problem is we are built to win in the regular season and not in the postseason and til GMGM makes the proper changes we will just have to be accustomed to regular season champs

Posted by: tador88 | July 2, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

No thanks. When Konopka was in the minors he was the biggest a-hole in the league-------

and a lotta cup teams have had quite a few a-holes on it. Konopka is a solid player. Great faceoff guy, great team player, one of the best middleweight fighters in hockey and a big hitter.

yeah we don't need those types around..

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 2, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

devils GM was quoted by said that volchencov reminds of him scott stevens. something that was missing once scott retired. we could use a scott stevens.. oh well our new GM after next year will change the dynamics of the team.

Posted by: samb99 | July 2, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

There is a reason the Caps have only made it past the 1st round twice in the past 12 years... GMGM.

Two Eastern Conference GMs with Stanley Cups made major signings yesterday. As for GMGM, it's one thing to listen to your scouting department when drafting. It's another thing to go out and get pieces that make your team significantly better.

Shero and Lamoriello understand this. The fact is, the Devils and Penguins got better and more experienced yesterday. The Caps will go into next season with less NHL proven talent and less NHL experience.

GMGM once again failed to do his job.

As if it weren't already hard enough, the road to the Cup for the Caps just got significantly harder.

Write this in stone:
THE CAPS WILL NOT WIN THE CUP NEXT SEASON

Posted by: mdmtnbiker | July 2, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Great job, timmyv and others. The stupidity around here is making it hard to continue reading the comments section. People, you need to realize that we already have a great team. It could be better, but it's still pretty damn good. Just because no deals were made doesn't mean some weren't tried. I don't want A-train for 6 years. In 3, we'd be trying to dump his contract like we did with Nylander, especially since Vol also got a NTC.

I would have liked to get Koivu, but chances are, like others have said, he wanted to stay in Anaheim, and it would have taken a lot to pry him away.

Just calm down, everyone. We still have several months until the trade deadline. And yes, cstanton, the chickenlittle comment was spot on. That's the way you and underpants and others are acting. Like I said yesterday, I only wish you guys would overreact even more than you are now by jumping off a bridge. That way we wouldn't have to hear your utter nonsense.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 2, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

and a lotta cup teams have had quite a few a-holes on it. Konopka is a solid player. Great faceoff guy, great team player, one of the best middleweight fighters in hockey and a big hitter.

yeah we don't need those types around..

Posted by: cstanton1 | July 2, 2010 10:19 AM

On nhl.com, I'm seeing him listed as a left wing one place, and a center another... which is he? He didn't take many faceoffs, so I'm assuming he wasn't center, but is he naturally a ceneter? I mainly just know him from his fighting. Based on what I do know of him, I would have no problem getting him for 4th line duty.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

This is a Hershey signing, IMO. They'll stash him there and call him up in case one of the kids goes down.

I think McPhee is content on going young in goal and on the blue line. We'll just have to go with what we have. Some will say it's being cheap, but others will say it's developing your own talent, something that teams like Florida, Phoenix and Nashville have been doing for years.

Posted by: RojoJohnson | July 2, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Samb99 totally agree GM GM go bye bye after next year just ashame Steve Y took a job this year and didn't stay one more year on Hockey Town

Posted by: bqts | July 2, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

LOL @ 2 years of failing and pushing the panic button on July 2. Some of you need to get over yourselves.

Posted by: tha_prophet | July 2, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

mdmtnbiker - You realize FA just opened up right? That minor corrections can be made again before the trade deadline heading into the post season? Or are you still new to how hockey works?

We're waiting on responses from 9 of our FAs, 3 or 4 of whom might go to arbitration. Would you rather have a 35 y/o unproven 2nd-line center and serious salary cap situations when injuries hit? Would you prefer another Nylander situation where we're stuck with a contract for 3 years while the player skates in the minors?

The sky is not falling. We lost Walker and Corvo who didn't perform for us last year. We're bringing up two amazing young Defensemen who have played together for a full year. Those are the only changes from the team that had a 1.57 Goals F/A ratio last season and brought us our first Presidents Cup in franchise history before we ran into the streaky Montreal team.

Do we have some holes? Sure, we have an entire off-season to shore them up and then an entire season to solidify the team. AND we're left with plenty of cap space to plug the real holes before the playoffs.

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

There's reports that the Bruins are still shopping Savard - what would people's feelings be about acquiring him as #2C?

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

@butcherbaker

Yes - really! Without a replacement for 40 goal scorer Semin, Laich "would be too expensive, and oh - we have guys ready to go (I forgot that bit)"...and yes - realizing the risk in the untested goalie theory,,, in 2011-12 you could face the dilemna that Varly is too oft injured/inconsistent annd Neuvy is a Alexander Giroux (great in AHL but can't make the jump).

The entire Eastern Conference is getting tough on D, our division is getting grittier...windows close real fast in the NHL.

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | July 2, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Konopka has been bouncing around the minors for 8 years. He's not that good. And he could challenge Sid in a whining contest. Yes, Sid whined his way to a Cup. But I still say no thanks to Konopka.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=42428

Posted by: tess2201 | July 2, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Sky's not falling, but you can't argue Dave's post. I'll hold out final judgement until the season starts to see who's on the roster, but the SE division is not going to be a cake wake anymore. Aside from Carolina, every team has improved. I can see Atlanta giving us fits every time we play them. They now have some size and speed, and will no doubt try to use their physical advantage when they play the Caps. FLA and TB now have legitimate GMs, and they will continue to improve over time.

Posted by: Fletch22 | July 2, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

MY SECRET WISH:

Kovalchuk signs on for 1 year with the Caps at a big discount to play with one year with Semin and Ovechkin.

FINGERS CROSSED FOR THIS UNLIKELY SCENARIO

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | July 2, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Neuvirth and Varly aren't "untested" - they both have seen a fair amount of NHL action and both have played well. Young, yes. Untested, no.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

If AV would have accepted the same deal he signed in NJ with the Caps instead, then, IMO, GMGM made a mistake not picking him up.

BUT, do any of us know that he wasn't offered that contract or if AV wanted to come to DC in the first place. Remember people, there are more things that influence where a guy signs than just team.

Koivu wanted to stay in the LA area. He and his family enjoy living there. The Caps weren't going to get him (unless they offered an absurd amount of money).

Maybe AV's wife/girlfriend/family wanted to move to NYC(people can still live in NYC and play in Jersey) because they liked the city better.

I have no idea, and no one on this board has any idea what were the factors that made AV sign with Jersey.

Like I said earlier, IF AV would have accpeted the same deal with the Caps if GMGM had offered, then I think GMGM made a mistake. But none of us know if that is true.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

@ mdmtnbiker - your really going out on a limb there with the caps will not win the cup next year comment. I'm gonna take it one step farther and say the Cubs wont win the world series.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | July 2, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

MY SECRET WISH:

Kovalchuk signs on for 1 year with the Caps at a big discount to play with one year with Semin and Ovechkin.

FINGERS CROSSED FOR THIS UNLIKELY SCENARIO

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | July 2, 2010 10:32 AM

What is your obsession with Kovalchuk? He is among the most one-dimensional players in the NHL. All he is good at is scoring. He doesn't hit, he doesn't play defense, he has a horrible giveaway-to-takeaway ratio... why would you want him?

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

@Fletch22

Florida is going to be pretty bad this year too.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

A lot of people who are posting here this morning are not seeing the long-term picture here. Almost every impact free-agent defenseman that signed on July 1 got an expensive, long-term deal. It would have been nice to do that with the Caps, but it is not reality. This team can't affort to lockup anyone for 4-6 years right now. Any move the Caps make will have to be for about 2 years, whether it's for a center and/or a defenseman. In a year, the Caps will need to have money to pay the two kid goalies (or go get a veteran), and make decisions about resigning Knuble, Semin and Poti and any other guys with expiring deals. Alzner will also be up for a new deal. Two years from now, they will have to make decisions on what to do with Laich and Green, and will also have to figure out a long-term strategy on Carlson. The Caps (and the fans) may need to swallow hard and hope the Hershey/Europe kids really ARE ready. The Caps have made their commitment to long term deals to their two stars, Ovechkin and Backstrom. There aren't going to be any big signings this summer for this team. They may yet add a veteran center (don't be shocked if Eric Belanger is back - he's looking for a three-year, $3 Mil/per season deal and nobody will give that to him). They may yet find a solid, stay at home defenseman to add, who won't be a star, but will add stability. This team is prudently watching it's nickels, because it has to sign people over the next three seasons to keep the core intact and remain competitive. The only significant lineup changes this team will make will probably be done through trades, not free agent signings.

Posted by: NHLObserver | July 2, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Is there a slight chance that most of the Caps fans that have been on here for the past two days are annoying backseat drivers in real life? Seems like a lot of them are like failed hockey players and/or coaches who must trudge through life as a kiddie coach or rely on their seasonal fix of fantasy hockey. It would make sense then that they live and die with the movement of players. I'd rather they do the latter instead of making us suffer through what they would have done if they were actually paid for their opinions. And I'll save you the trouble - I'm a bit of a homer, though I don't live in the DC area. No, I don't own any pom-poms or a cheerleading outfit but if that helps you find a platform to stand on when you preach your doom and gloom for the upcoming season, help yourself. And no, sadly, I don't care if you think the Capitals management and the team are a bunch of lummoxes because they make you all sad like the night your prom date stood you up. Insightful commentary, I'm all for it. Boastful comments like this is your blog and that the only opinion and observations that matter are yours, not amusing.

Can we try to be excited for next season? Kinda' like when your parents try to be proud of the level you reached in your World of Warcraft game. Neat-o.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 2, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

sgm3, I have to disagree about Volchenkov. I don't think I'd want to take that risk with him. It wouldn't be the worst move in the world, but signing him with a NTC for 6 years when he's 28 and blocks as many shots as he does, I can see that easily turning into a Nyles situation. Even if it didn't, I don't blame GMGM for being tentative with a situation like that.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 2, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Tess, can you elaborate on the a-hole comment? From what I've read(and I swear I read he was a center with a good faceoff %, but could be mistaken), he was loved by his teammates and the fans in Syracuse and Norfolk. And even if he's a wing, I'll take him.

We need a few a-holes to balance out all the nice guys on this roster anyway. Some pi$$ and vinegar goes a long way in the playoffs.

Posted by: Fletch22 | July 2, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

@Dave28

And look at the salary cap situation of all three of those teams. Especially Chicago who is in the process of dismantling a Stanley Cup Champion.

It's highly unlikely they will be able to maintain that lofty pace that they've been on.

It really does boil down to, do you want to win one now or many later?

Posted by: CapsNut | July 2, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Tess, can you elaborate on the a-hole comment? From what I've read(and I swear I read he was a center with a good faceoff %, but could be mistaken), he was loved by his teammates and the fans in Syracuse and Norfolk. And even if he's a wing, I'll take him.

Posted by: Fletch22 | July 2, 2010 10:40 AM |

I've seen him listed as both center and wing, and he did have 62.5% on faceoffs last season, in over 400. I'm just curious if he is a natural center (which that % would indicate) or a winger who just happens to be really good at faceoffs.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Dany Sabourin are you kidding me. I guess the Caps are going to announce they have signed Jeff Toms and Jan Bulis as well. Pitiful.

GMGM has to make some moves. If we wanted to consistently make the playoffs and lose in the first round we would have never gotten rid of David Poile. Like someone posted this is the salary cap era; you got Semin making $6M for one year. You got to take your shot. I think Gretzky said it best when he said "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

Posted by: jake81 | July 2, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

sgm2, agreed on FLA, they'll be bad this year, and maybe next year still. But they have Tallon there, and it seems he's committed to building something they've not had.

I was watching the draft and they iterviewed him and said something to the effect of 'we tired of teams coming down to south florida for vacations. we want teams to to not want to come into our building'. thought it was great quote, so we'll see what happens. I think it will be good for the Caps to have some good competition within the division, maybe built a few rivalries.

Posted by: Fletch22 | July 2, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

jake81, Sabourin is going straight to the Bears. Makes sense to get a goalie for Hershey who has NHL expereince, just in case.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

@timmyv38

"He is among the most one-dimensional players in the NHL. All he is good at is scoring. He doesn't hit, he doesn't play defense, he has a horrible giveaway-to-takeaway ratio... why would you want him?"

Hmmm...I guess thats why he is considered a once in a decade talent. Maybe thats why ATL offered him over $10MM a year, maybe thats why Lou Lamorillo gave up a king's ransom for renting him for a quarter season and still wants desperately to sign him...but what does Lou know -- nothing! Whats really important is that timmyv38 on Caps Insider has the skinny on Kovy!

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | July 2, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Glad the Caps are so concerned with the Bears going for the 3peat. Because winning Calder Cups is soooo much better then Stanleys.

Posted by: jake81 | July 2, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Savard would be a great 2nd line center for Semin.. however, he probably isn't worth the price.

Right now the problem I see for washington is that we are stacked deep with talent in the system. When these players start to hit the end of their contracts, it is going to cost to keep them.

It is a fact that blue liners take longer to mature, and I for one think our blue is about ready to hit stride. People forget the 5 year rebuild plan. Last year was the mark, and we had a record year. Playoffs need to improve, but that will come with experience. This year... no excuses.. but i'm inclined to give last years squad another run.. before selling teh future down the river for a day 1 acquisition that usually brings in players who get stupid contracts for too long and too much money.

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | July 2, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

@DoubleAlex

Good point on the NTC. That definitely makes it more risky. But, IMO, I think given the needs of the team and the projected cap hit for AV ($4.25) that if he would've accepted that deal from the Caps he would've been worth the risk.

The likelihood of him getting injured is a serious concern for giving him a 6 year deal. But he is only 28, so I would think (barring catastrophic injury) he will be at the top of his game the next 4 years. He may slide some in the last 2, but I think it would be worth the risk.

Of all the contracts signed by the UFAs, AVs is the only I thought "crap, I wished the Caps signed that deal with him"(I don't count Koivu because he wasn't signing here).

But, for all the reasons you mentioned, giving AV a 6 year deal with a NTC is not a slam dunk given all the risks involved.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Fletch22
Maybe you do love him if he's on your team, but he doesn't stay in one place very long, which says to me that he wears out his welcome pretty quickly. I only know him from watching him play against the Bears. Lots of whining to the refs, lots of dirty little stuff after the whistle, mouth was going all the time. You want pi$$ and vinegar, bring up Steve Pinizzotto. He's got some rough edges, but I think he's very much in the Matt Bradley mode and maybe a better fighter than Brads.

Posted by: tess2201 | July 2, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

@jake81

Yes!!! While the Penguins were wondering whether to replace Gonchar with A-Train, Hamhuis or Martin, the Caps war room was wondering about the quality of backup for Holtby next season; Leonsis was working on his May 3, 2011 blog which would be a different refrain than "what does not kill you makes you stronger"...I think he came up with "Bear and endure: This sorrow will one day prove to be for your good."

I want to vomit!!!

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | July 2, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

maybe we grab brian mcgratten...i know he is nothing more than an enforcer, but he would be cheap and he is a great fighter

Posted by: _stevo | July 2, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

No Theo? Isn't Theo still available? He'd be a good back-up to Holtby in Hershey and will likely only cost the NHL minimum. Oh well, GMGM seems to have learned his lesson regarding free agents after Circles, ThreeOrMore, Pothier, etc.: spend next to nothing.

Posted by: Drudge1 | July 2, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

If Lou Lam really compared Volchenkov to Scott Stevens, then Lou Lam has really lost it...

Or maybe Lou was trying to sell the fact that he just handed a defenseman a six year contract with a NTC???

Nah....

Finally for all the chicken littles here let's look at a few things, we won the Eastern Conference by 18 points. Have we regressed enough and NJD improved enough to make up that difference?

Probably not. Especially since a big part of NJD's problem is their rapidly aging goaltender.

We won the SE Division over Atlanta by 38 points. That's 6 points more than the other five division champions COMBINED. Have the Thrashers improved enough along with our "regression" to make up and surpass that ground?

Not bloody likely.

Posted by: CapsNut | July 2, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

@timmyv38

"He is among the most one-dimensional players in the NHL. All he is good at is scoring. He doesn't hit, he doesn't play defense, he has a horrible giveaway-to-takeaway ratio... why would you want him?"

Hmmm...I guess thats why he is considered a once in a decade talent. Maybe thats why ATL offered him over $10MM a year, maybe thats why Lou Lamorillo gave up a king's ransom for renting him for a quarter season and still wants desperately to sign him...but what does Lou know -- nothing! Whats really important is that timmyv38 on Caps Insider has the skinny on Kovy!

Posted by: Political_Stratgst | July 2, 2010 10:48 AM

How about answer a single point I made instead of being a sarcastic jerk. Name one thing that Kovalchuk brings to this team that we don't already have.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

@Political_Stratgst

You are in the minority. Saying ATL was willing to give him $10M doesn't mean his is worth it. ATL had fans to consider, and not re-signing him has made them better.

There is a reason he wasn't signed yesterday... noboby is offering him what he wanted (or even close to the 10M Atl did). Yes, he is talented.. but it is a valid argument that his talent does not outweigh his salary demand.. otherwise, it would be more than LA and NJ battling over him.

My guess, LA for between 7-8M. He's a great fit for a team that has Doughty, Johnson, and Scuderi that can cover for his deficiencies.

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | July 2, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Is this a joke? WTF GMGM get some players on the blue line and are not afraid to hit someone and know how to play D. and then get a good center, what we are going to go with a first line of Ovie, back, Semin, Green and ?? The last time I checked we paly 60 mins of hockey they guys all play (when healthy) 25mins That leaves 35 mins to go to a 2nd line of Knubble, Fher and ?? and your hersehy bear? 3rd line of all hershey bears and a 4th line of ??? we dont know since they didnt play in the offseason. GMGM needs to wake up, Ovie is not going to carry this team to a cup, he sucks as a leader. We need some additoanl talent NOW GMGM not " we have a large talnet pool and beinging these guys up is the way to go" The av age of the apst cup winners is 30 - our avg age with the new hershey bears added in 26? not going to happen

WAKE UP TED AND GM get some additionla talent. IF i wanted to pay 5K per year for tickets and a winning team I would go to hershey. I dont I apy 30K per year to see the caps win. or lack of wins...

Posted by: tpatton2 | July 2, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Is this a joke? WTF GMGM get some players on the blue line and are not afraid to hit someone and know how to play D. and then get a good center, what we are going to go with a first line of Ovie, back, Semin, Green and ?? The last time I checked we paly 60 mins of hockey they guys all play (when healthy) 25mins That leaves 35 mins to go to a 2nd line of Knubble, Fher and ?? and your hersehy bear? 3rd line of all hershey bears and a 4th line of ??? we dont know since they didnt play in the offseason. GMGM needs to wake up, Ovie is not going to carry this team to a cup, he sucks as a leader. We need some additoanl talent NOW GMGM not " we have a large talnet pool and beinging these guys up is the way to go" The av age of the apst cup winners is 30 - our avg age with the new hershey bears added in 26? not going to happen

WAKE UP TED AND GM get some additionla talent. IF i wanted to pay 5K per year for tickets and a winning team I would go to hershey. I dont I apy 30K per year to see the caps win. or lack of wins...

Posted by: tpatton2 | July 2, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

My guess, LA for between 7-8M. He's a great fit for a team that has Doughty, Johnson, and Scuderi that can cover for his deficiencies.

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | July 2, 2010 11:01 AM

I doubt that he'll take less than $9M. He thinks he is much better than he is. I will give him credit, he is the second best goal scorer playing right now - but that's all he is. Other than skating, he has no other strengths.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I get the whole development of prospects, entry level contracts, and getting insurance for the Bears kind of thing. But I think people are missing that as stacked as we are in our system, we don't have that big bruising D-man right now and probably not in 2 or 3 years. Alzner might be a shutdown D-man in a few years but that's not his style. We should have gotten a D-man yesterday. Knuble is getting long in the tooth (only 1 more year left), Laich and Semin are UFA's next year, we have no idea if Fehr, Flash & Gordo take the one year tenders and are UFA's next year. And you never know with Ovie flying around out there (God forbid)You absolutely have to go for it this year. Absolutely. Winning a sports championship is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I'll drink the GMGM Kool-Aid because I'm a Caps fan no matter what but I'm not happy about it.

Posted by: jake81 | July 2, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Is this a joke? WTF GMGM get some players on the blue line and are not afraid to hit someone and know how to play D. and then get a good center, what we are going to go with a first line of Ovie, back, Semin, Green and ?? The last time I checked we paly 60 mins of hockey they guys all play (when healthy) 25mins That leaves 35 mins to go to a 2nd line of Knubble, Fher and ?? and your hersehy bear? 3rd line of all hershey bears and a 4th line of ??? we dont know since they didnt play in the offseason. GMGM needs to wake up, Ovie is not going to carry this team to a cup, he sucks as a leader. We need some additoanl talent NOW GMGM not " we have a large talnet pool and beinging these guys up is the way to go" The av age of the apst cup winners is 30 - our avg age with the new hershey bears added in 26? not going to happen

WAKE UP TED AND GM get some additionla talent. IF i wanted to pay 5K per year for tickets and a winning team I would go to hershey. I dont I apy 30K per year to see the caps win. or lack of wins...

Posted by: tpatton2 | July 2, 2010 11:04 AM

Wow... do you not even know the Caps? 1st line will be Ovie-Backs-Knuble. 2nd line will have Semin-?-Fehr/Laich. Green will be paired with Schultz, seeing how they were the most most effective (not best, but most effective - please note the difference) defensive pairing in the NHL last season. The Caps still have Fehr/Laich, Chimera, Bradley, Gordon, and Steckel to play the 3rd/4th lines - they just need a 3rd line center, or a 4th line winger. 1, maybe 2 Hershey players. The Caps are just as strong as last season - they still have all their key players, who are all more experienced. The only player who left who they will especially miss is ShaMo.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

@sgm3 -

Yes, I was surprised at the cap hit of Vol. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I'm just very wary of it. I am of the mind, too, that Vol will go downhill quick once he hits 30. It's just an opinion, though. I think it's understandable that GMGM wouldn't want to take on something like that again with the Nyles debacle so fresh. I do understand your perspective, though.

Also, as someone pointed out, one main problem right now is that we have several RFAs and we're talking to Belanger. If those things were already in place, they might be more willing to pull the trigger on a bigger deal.

Anyway, it's just nice to have a rational discussion about this. So, thanks.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 2, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

@timmyv38

Kovalchuk also has a lot of skill and one of the best shots in the league.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

tess, it's not uncommon for undrafted players to float around the minors until given a shot in the NHL. They sign hoping for a shot, they don't get it, they move on. He was with the Columbus org for a few years I believe, but he left because he knew he wouldn't get a shot with the Blue Jackets (again, from what I've read). I don't hold any of that against him, and wouldn't draw any negative conclusions from it.

I'd take Pinner as well, no question about it. Just my opinion of course, but I think we need some bona fide toughness/grit on this team.

Posted by: Fletch22 | July 2, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

tpatton2 - Last years stats...

#1 Goals For/Against ratio (1.57)
#1 Power-Play %
#1 Goals per game
#6 Face-off %
#16 in Shots Against (with our oh-so-horrible D)

Our worst stat was our penalty kill which should be resolved with Alzner/Carlson.

What do you want, Bettman to hand us the Cup? Look I'm sorry your Skins suck and you had to start following hockey but get a grip. We have a fantastic team and we should have a great team for the next 5-6 years.

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

@CapsNut Whoops, I stand corrected. Out of mild curiosity, was that a top of the head thing or did you look it up?

I lived in Vegas for a couple years before moving here, and was a Wranglers season ticket holder. Sabou was always mentioned because he was our first player to make it to the NHL, but Sloan was before my time. Thanks for the info!

Posted by: wmsheppa | July 2, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Kubina went to TBL for 2 years @ 3.85 mil per season.. holy crap, that's a really great deal. :-)

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

@timmyv38

Kovalchuk also has a lot of skill and one of the best shots in the league.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 11:11 AM

All he is good at is scoring though - which is where his shot and skating come in. He brings nothing else. All of his skills are directed towards goals - and, as I said, he is the second best goal scorer around. But he would still be a huge mistake for the Caps.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

let me get this straight:

1) Caps need 2nd line center
2) Caps need top pair D-man
3) Both GMGM and BB recently said the youngsters would be in net

what do the Caps do on the 2nd day of free agency? sign a veteran d-man or center to a short-term deal???? NO, they sign a SCRUB goalie as an "insurance policy!!!!" I believe almost ANYONE who posts here has got to be chuckling at this STELLAR move, which fills one of the Caps glaring holes. Good grief, Charlie Brown

Posted by: doughless | July 2, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

FrankM73 - Mm, that is a good deal. I've always liked Kubina.

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

@keepwastingmoney

All those stats are regular season. Playoffs are a different monster. I don't think 2 rookies (and they are very good rookies) are going to put us over the top.

Honestly if Bettman wanted to hand me the Stanley Cup I'd be ok with that. We do have a great team and we're going to kick ass in the regular season for a long time and probably lead the league again in all the above stats you've mentioned but we need some sandpaper guys. Flash and Semin are the equivalent of baby wipes.

Posted by: jake81 | July 2, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

doughless - #1 - Perreault or Flash will start at 2C. Ideal, probably not, but it gives us cap space and we always have the trade deadline.

#2 - Top pair defense-men, Alzner and Carlson. Don't believe the media hype that we're weak at D... we're simply not. We won the presidents cup last year and we lost to Montreal because they shut down our scoring capabilities.

#3 - Have you seen how Varlamov and Neuvirth performed in the NHL? They've been amazing and have been underrated by the NHL analysts. The goalie signing is a cheap sign to ensure us against injuries and a sophmore slump without risking ANYTHING on the salary cap side of things.

Good Grief doughless, its the second day of Free Agency and the season hasn't started yet. Oh right, you'd rather us sign Modano for 4 years and screw our Salary Cap. Bravo.

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

@doughless

You truly are not very smart. This deal has absolutely no bearing on what the Caps will do with how they make their team.

He has been signed to be an AHL goalie and his contract does not count against the cap.

This has as much effect on how the Caps fill out their roster as where LeBron James will sign.

Seriously, you have to be able to distinguish between actions that will have an effect and actions that will not.

If LeBron signs with Cleveland, I could see you coming on going "oh my god, what is GMGM doing!!!!!!! There is NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO WIN THE CUP!!!!!!"

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

#1 Perrault and Flash as 2nd line ceter?? joke, right??

#2 I like Carlson, not high on Alzner. i think he is soft. we have Sarge for that. where is the rest of the D??? Poti?? I like Erskine, but lets be serious. Caps appear to be letting ShaMo walk. I think D is an issue.

#3 I never said anything about the play of Varly or Neuvy. Honestly, I have never heard of this Sabourin guy. If he is an AHLer, don't we already have a guy in Holtby that probably plays as good or better?? this is a stupid signing.

keepwastingmytime, never said anything about Madano. can you read??

Posted by: doughless | July 2, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

@doughless

I get what your saying.

There's a whole lot of "if's" in GMGM's plan.

I don't want Perreault or Flash as 2C on my team (I don't want Flash period), I want the biggest SOB we can find so that when we envitably run into another hot playoff goal we can get some traffic in there.

Posted by: jake81 | July 2, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

@wmsheppa

No big deal, when Sloan came up a few years ago, his time in Vegas was mentioned a bit which is why I remmebered it.

My parents retired to Vegas in 04 so I've been to a few Wranglers games myself at the Orleans Arena, but none since the Midnight game in 2006.

I didn't remember Sloan playing when I was out there and looking through the programs, he was injured the one game I went to when he was in Vegas. Sabourin doesn't ring a bell either but I'll have to dig up the programs and take a look. Good ol' Billy Tibbits was on the team the first time I went but suspended (surprise, surprise) so he wasn't playing.

I do remember the goalie in the Midnight game in 2006 was in the Hurricanes system but I can't remember his name either. The fans didn't like him very much...

Posted by: CapsNut | July 2, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Tpatton apparently starting the holiday weekend a little early with some stiff bloody marys! Nice work.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | July 2, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I'm on the fence about Lombardi.

Laich - Lombardi - Semin ?

Talk to me. Not familiar with his style. I do like his 53 assists.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | July 2, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

@doughless - Not only can I read, I can assess. You want to trade away our cap space for a quick sign that "might" plug a hole we "might" have.

No quality D or C is going on the first few days of FA without extended contracts. So yes, you want to sign away our Cap Space for a veteran for a multi year contract. Go read the history of Jagr (or Nylander) and the Capitals to see why this is a bad idea.

Flash did fine at 2C last year. Check out the stats in the games he played. Perreault is a risky choice, but he has speed that would open up the ice to allow Semin to do his thing. Do you have any knowledge of hockey? Or should I explain that part?

Is it a guarantee? No, but who would you prefer, Walker? Go see how well that worked out last year.

This goalie was signed because with Neuvirth coming up we need a new goalie for our AHL team. You're acting as if we're missing something when we're not.

We had an amazing team last year and all we've changed is Theo, Walker and Corvo... at this point. There's still... 3 months left? OH NOES THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

no need to worry about lombardi or any other 2nd line center. Clearly GMGM and Ted are happy with what we have and will not make upgrades. First round playoff exits are fine as long as we win the presidents trophy. Why make changes now?
I dont understand and it pisses me off.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | July 2, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

reading some of the comments, attacks, name calling on here is like listening to 9 years old posture for a "who knows more about hockey" position on the playground.

I don't get it. Our team finished 1st in the regular season and has made the playoffs 3 straight years, gotten better each year, won the President's Trophy last year... and still people think the Stanley Cup should be won by the Caps so easily!

It is the hardest trophy to win in sports. Even the best teams get knocked out in the playoffs because of bounces, luck, bad calls, hot goalies, etc...

there's no need for name calling, negativity, BS, etc... it's a game... and none of us own the damn team... we just choose to follow it... some of us a little bit too neurotically, IMHO!

Happy freaking Friday people! cchhhillllllll! :-)

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

@pyoung66 - +1 - get rid of that photo! Who thought of that pose - hide and seek?

Posted by: Shiba-fussa | July 2, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

@keepwastingmoney - so no quality C is going without an extended contract? You wouldnt want Koivu for 2 years at 2.5 per? I guess we'll just go with MP or flash - great idea.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | July 2, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

@CapsNut It's a nice arena, but what I really miss is my seats... paid $15/game for a seat 5 rows off the ice at center.

The Ferraro brothers were there for a while(until a 200+ penalty minute game which one of them shattered his arm and the other got suspended for the duration of the season), and Brooks Orpik's younger brother Andrew bounced between there and the AHL's Rampage all year this year.

Glad to say that they did finally get a popular goalie though, Michael Ouzas. Not very good, but after a game where Alaska ran him 3 times he just snapped and started whaling on a dude with his blocker, forever endearing him to the hearts of Wranglers fans. They're actually affiliated with the Coyotes now, which makes a hell of a lot more geographic sense anyway.

Posted by: wmsheppa | July 2, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

@Jordan_Kitts:

Lombardi is a speedy center who had career highs last year playing on the 1st line in Phoenix.

Once could logically deduce that playing second line with Semin and Laich/Fehr would increase his stats since the talent around him would be increased. Also in that opinion is that he would no longer be the target of the top D and have more room to ply his trade.

however, reports are that he's looking for between 3.8-4.2 mil a year for a long-term deal and that's just a no go for the Caps, per reports!

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

keepwastingmoney: in looking at what was available to fill spots that the management has indicated they were interested in bolstering, I would say there were few to none that harken back to Jagr or Nylander. the blame for those moves, by the way, rest with the donkeys that are still in charge. if they are so shellshocked that they won't pull the trigger on moves that will help put the team truly in stanley cup contention, then that is a problem. by the way, maybe management needs to bring in better folks to help with these matters.

if you think the Caps are not short anywhere in terms of the assests they have, that is fine. I just don't adhere to your view, sgm3's view or timmy's view. we will just disagree.

Posted by: doughless | July 2, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

@FrankM73 - Shut up Frank!!! ;) j/k Gah, I'm so happy the three day weekend is here. And, so far, I'm happy the Capitals haven't blown their Salary Cap space.

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Here's an idea:

A) VAN has quality defencemen up the wazoo.
B) But VAN needs help up front.
C) Mitchell and Bieksa have skated together well as VAN's shutdown pairing.

Hence:

1) Flieschmann + Boyd Gordon to VAN for Bieksa.
2) Sign Mitchell for 2 years @ $3.0M
3) Sign Lombardi for 3 years @ $3.5M or 2 years @ $4.0M

OR

1) plus
3b) Semin + draft pick to CGY for Regehr and Iginla.

Eithr of these scenarios gives us both a quality 2nd-line center and help on defence (granted, not marquee-level help, but help nonetheless).

BTW, if y'all think GMGM is an idiot...just check out some of the Ø genius moves Ø CGY's GM Darryl Sutter has made:

Phaneuf: Gone
Lombardi: Gone
Nystrom: Gone
Giordano: Gone
Prust: Gone
Iginla: wants to be Gone.
Bouwmeester: Overpaid and Underperforming
Toskala: As if!

...and they missed the playoffs!!!


2010 FA signings: Jokinnen and Tanguay (sp?)...again. WTF was he thinking?

ROTGDFLMMFAO

IMHO, this guy is ripe for the fleecing!

Thoughts, anyone?


Posted by: Rhino40 | July 2, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

@Frank - thanks.

Would seem like a good fit. If Lombardi comes in, where does Flash go?

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | July 2, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

@capsfansince74

Koivu did not want to leave the LA area for family reasons. He would not have accepted that same deal in DC. So that just wasn't an option.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

@Rhino40

You can't forget the brilliant Glenn Sather who is paying the combination of Brashear(bought out so still paying) and Booregard over $3M/yr.

I think Mitchell could be a very good signing. Mitchell did say he was going to wait until later in the summer to sign. This may be due to his concussions and needing the be able to pass certain physical tests so he can get a bigger contract or even a contract at all.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

@ doughless -

Please leave this discussion to the rational adults.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 2, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

With all the pressure being put on by the fans on this board, GMGM had to do something on day 1. We now have all the pieces we need!

Posted by: kkd76 | July 2, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

@keepwastingmoney:
I totally agree, keep the cap space until you find a fit... like Mitchell via UFA or maybe a trade would be a better option.

@Rhino40:

I like the scenario, since I've been an advocate for signing both Lombardi and Mitchell... buuuuut... reports from the Lombardi camp at he's seeking long-term and 3.8-4.2 per year!

also, Mitchell was paid 3.5 last year... who knows if he'll get more, less or the same and what the term is.

I also think Bieksa's value is higher than an unsigned RFA 2nd line LW/C and a pick...

As for Sutter, thank god he's not here... I'd like Regehr please... :-)

sidenote: what's the second M in ROTGDFLMMFAO mean??? meaty, major, maximus, manly??? ;-)

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

@Jordan_Kitts:
I have idea what will happen to Fleischmann! Most of us are hoping for a trade. I'm torn... want the roster space for A.Gordon or a Pinner type but who knows...

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

doublealex: given you blog name, you are not only a bandwagon fan, but a homer too.

have a good weekend

Posted by: doughless | July 2, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

by the way, a 2 year deal for kurtis foster at 1.8 mil each was not a good deal??? people here don't think this guy would have been a good add for those terms?? please...

Posted by: doughless | July 2, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

keepwastingmoney

We have a great team, just not one that can win in the palyoffs with our current Talent Pool, you think that a bucnh or rookies can win the cup? stop smoking the grass and wake up. You think that Oviem, Semin, Back, Green will have the same skill in 5 years. you have no clue about hockey. you need tough players that can play and are willing to take the hits and deliver them, CAPs 1st place this year most wins, no cup, Last year no cup.... next year??? same team .. no cup. Last year pengs cup, barley made the palyoffs, this year, Flyers, palyed wiht heart and toughness somehting we are missing.

Let me guess you play a lot of lottery tickets to.

Posted by: tpatton2 | July 2, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Not convinced that GMGM won't do anythign during free agency. We didn't have the cap room to sign a big name FA defenseman to a long-term deal like Pittsburgh. The Caps obvioulsy feel that Carson and Alzner will be a huge boost to our D. It sounds like the Caps think Belanger would be a good answer as the 2nd line center, but I'm not so sure. I still think going after Lombardi who is only 28 would be a good move. Again, I think the number of RFA's we intend to re-sign is a hindrance.

Even if the Caps don't make big moves right now, it doesn't mean a trade prior to the deadline won't happen. The Caps will have some cap space to use unlike Pittsburgh, Philly, and New Jersey.

Posted by: wizfan89 | July 2, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

@Frank - I'm guessing that "M" stands for "mother", but I might be wrong.

@doughless - yes, clearly because I don't overreact like you do, and because I like two of our better players, I must be a bandwagon fan and a homer. I'm sorry you have to let your emotions get in your way so much, but that's why I asked you to leave this to us rational adults. Thanks.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 2, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Frank: I'm guessing the two Ms are "...My Mother..."

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 2, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

@FrankM73 - I'm not convinced Pinner can make it in the NHL yet... but I wouldn't be surprised if we see him brought up a couple times. It'll be interesting to see how he does.

I'm convinced, and I don't think I'm going out on a limb here that Perreault is going to start the season up here. And what about Gustavsson or Johansson might we see one of them take a shot? Probably a bit too early for either though...

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Baby Gus is a bust.

Mackan might stick if he has a good camp.

Would be surprised as he@@ if Matty P doesn't start the year in DC.

People need to chill out. Caps won the SE by 40 points. They're going to win by 20+ points again this year. Carve that it stone.

Posted by: Steve_R | July 2, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Needless to say it is truly disappointing to see all the disparaging remarks about this team and organization on a Caps blog. I have been a fan of this team for over 30 years now and hands down this is the best shape this organiztion has ever been in. Do any of you naysayers remember the condition that this team was in 5 short years ago, probably not because you weren't a fan then. They are built for the short term and the long term how on earth can you complain about that? I'm sure all the "experts" out there will find a way though. No team will win the Cup every year but to be in contention for it every year is a pretty significant achievement.

Posted by: southeastdc | July 2, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

With all the pressure being put on by the fans on this board, GMGM had to do something on day 1. We now have all the pieces we need!

Posted by: kkd76 | July 2, 2010 12:07 PM

That is a good one. lol. Thank goodness the Caps have the sense to listen to these people.

Posted by: hock1 | July 2, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Someone posted above that Lombardi had 53 assists last year. He didn't, he was 19-34=53.

Look at his stats over the last few years and it's really hard to argue that he deserves more than Laich. That doesn't mean he should get the 2.4 Laich will get this year coming - that was a RFA deal Laich signed. But, for me, three years $10M is about tops. Laich will get the same, maybe a little more, for his next deal.

Also someone above posted that Fehr could be a UFA after this year if he signs a one-year tender. Fehr I believe has three more years to before he can be a UFA.

What I think is in the mind of GMGM is that Kutz and MaJo will be ready to contribute by 2011-2012 and he doesn't want their paths blocked. That would mean one year, two at most, for a #2C signing.

He might also truly believe that Green, Carlson, Alzner and Schultz will be top 4 D-men by 11-12 and again doesn't want to overcommit money and then not have cap space to sign those guys.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 2, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Tarik, can you get us anything from GMGM on whether the Caps had any interest in any of the FA d-men or centers and, if so, why nothing worked out?

Posted by: zmega | July 2, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

@southeastdc - I completely agree. The amazing thing is that in 07/08, we weren't supposed to make the playoffs. But we had an amazing year! We improved on that in 08/09 by claiming the SE again and moving deeper in the playoffs. We improved AGAIN last year by dominating the regular season.

Now, we can ALL agree we had a disappointing Post-Season. But that same Montreal team tore through the Stanley Cup Champs don't forget. Our core players are all the same, with the exception being Jose who was always a two year band-aid until Neuvirth/Varlamov were ready (no offense Jose, I hope you find a good home).

To the Chicken Little posters: I AGREE we could use a 2nd line center. But at what price is the big question? And its a hole that we dealt with last year too, and look at our regular season record. Our defense will have improved by the start of the season, so no worries there. If you think we were going to sign Kaberle, Kovalchuk and Koivu, then you just don't get it.

Posted by: keepwastingmoney | July 2, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Kaberle is not a free agent. Would have to get him via trade.

Posted by: Steve_R | July 2, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

two ways to win in the playoffs crowd the opponents crease and clear your own crease. we are zero for two on both of those.. A Train would helped in the clear your own crease.

Posted by: samb99 | July 2, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Thank you southeastdc. Thought it was just me. Wonder where everyone would be if we had to shed fan favorites like Chicago is doing. Of course, they're doing it after winning the Cup, but I like the old-fashioned idea of being more than a rent a player team. GMGM will add to the core when he deems it critical. February/March may be a better time than Canada Day.

Posted by: McKinley2 | July 2, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

The Caps have to fill 8 more roster spots with 15.9 million cap space. That gives them an average salary of 1,775,00 per player. Philly has one roster spot to fill with 288,000 left under the cap (good luck), and Pitt has two slots open with 700k to spend per player. The Blackhawks have 8 spots to fill with 3.5 million cap space = 397,000 per player (ouch)

Posted by: jimbob11 | July 2, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1

Agree with everything you said. That is a reason why I think Mitchell could be a good fit here.

Because of his concussions he is going to get less money than he would have. He also is unlikely to be given a long term deal. If Mitchell can come back next year and play a season without showing the ill effects of his concussion then he could hit it big next year(or two years) as a free agent.

With the Caps wanting a short term deal, and the style of play Mitchell has, Mitchell would seem like a good fit.

However, just because it would make sense does not necessarily mean it will happen.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The Oil waived Souray.

Posted by: Fro_ | July 2, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Tom, I agree on the center. A lot of us thought that a veteran, physical, leader-type center would serve us well until the young guys are ready - comparable to Knuble. As far as the d goes, the problem that I see is the lack of a skilled physical presence in the d - either on the current roster or in the system. That is a big missing piece IMO, and it can only be filled through trade or free agency.

Posted by: zmega | July 2, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

jimbob11

chicago just won the cup and philly have you looked at their D tough as nails. so what is your point. you are looking at quantity vs quality.

Posted by: samb99 | July 2, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

We have one of the best farm systems in the league.

The best AHL club over the past few years.

An awesome regular season record, CRUSHING our division.

Can we afford to give GMGM a little leeway (in the REGULAR season) to see if some of our problems can be solved cheaply from within?

While also comfortably watching the NHL landscape to see if he can grab a bargain outside deal (that makes sense with regard to the future beyond this season) that might suit or needs for the PLAYOFFS?

I say sure, lets see how it plays out before we start slitting our wrists again amid ridiculous speculation.

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 2, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

@samb99 - Your exactly correct.


I think keepwastingmoney is GMGM.

Can you please explain how all these regular season accomplishments translate into Stanley Cups?

Posted by: jake81 | July 2, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

@FrankM73:

You're right: Sather never fails to--as one widely-known analyst put it--"help the Rangers to blow their own brains out in Free Agency"

FTR: ROTGDFLMMFAO = Über-LOL

"Rolling On The G-- D----- Floor Laughing My Mother F------ A--- Off"

Posted by: Rhino40 | July 2, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

@Fro

I would like to pick him up if the Caps could get him on re-entry waivers (half the salary).

Edmonton is just hoping someone will pick him up and take his salary off their hands. That means not one team would even give up a 7th round draft pick for Souray.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Souray on reentry waivers would be great, personally... but some team with a ton of cap space will take a chance on him and his salary...

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

@FrankM73

Maybe, but it wouldn't surprise me if no team did. But Edmonton may not allow Souray to be picked up on re-entry waivers.

These were tweets from Pierre LeBrun:

Real_ESPNLeBrun Oilers have zero interest in eating half of Souray's contract via re-entry waivers. They want to lose his full contract on normal waivers.

Real_ESPNLeBrun LOL, not saying Oilers will succeed in losing Souray on normal waivers, just passing on what they're telling me, haha.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

No team will win the Cup every year but to be in contention for it every year is a pretty significant achievement.

Posted by: southeastdc | July 2, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

define contend... I wouldn't define it as making the playoffs every year or having a great regular season. To me contend means getting outta the second round at the very least.

Posted by: joek443 | July 2, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

This is a good read that kind of reflects my point of view:

http://www.mdprosports.com/2010/07/capitals-smartly-inactive-in-free-agency/

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 2, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

sounds like a GMGM waiver wire special... Paging Dr GM! Blue light special on isle E!

the tweets make sense since the balance would be over 4 years as a cap hit buyout!

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

The Caps certainly are not going to pay Souray $5.4 million for 2 years. Now, $2.7 million, .....???

Posted by: zmega | July 2, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Well Souray just opened up, and Andy Sutton is still out there - reportedly the Caps are showing interest. I also read on the ESPN 'rumors' page that Willie Mitchell is in no hurry to sign in the opening days.

Posted by: BACKS | July 2, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

my opinion - we are one or two players away from winning the cup now. We win the cup next year - i dont care if we dont sniff the playoffs for 5 years straight and dump every player on the damn roster. Please can we win one cup before i die?

Posted by: capsfansince74 | July 2, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

@wtf_e_fehr

Good post. I agree with it too.

Another option for a center, but a 3rd line center, would be John Madden. He would help the Caps get a good checking line to match other teams. He can guard pretty much any center in the league, and with his age he will not be getting a long term contract (one or two years). He also shouldn't cost too much either.

I think he could be a good get too.

Madden and/or Mitchell for 1 or 2 year deals.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

joek44.....contending for the stanley cup every season begins with making the playoffs. If you don't make the playoffs you won't win the cup. That must be priority #1. Once in the playoffs different styles can win in any given year as the last 10 cup winners have proven. Regarding making it beyond the 2nd round, that is a pretty tough standard to live up to in order to be considered a contender. Please list for me over the last five seasons how many teams have made it past the 2nd round every season. Keep in mind this would mean they are in the conference finals every season. That just doesn't happen. With that rationale and logic there really are no contenders in the NHL.

Posted by: southeastdc | July 2, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

if Souray makes it through waivers...

and IF I was GMGM, I would call EDM and offer Erskine straight up for Souray...

something like this roster would be good:

2010-11 WASHINGTON CAPITALS
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
1-Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Mike Knuble ($2.800m)
2-Brooks Laich ($2.067m) / Mathieu Perreault ($0.717m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)
3-Jason Chimera ($1.875m) / Tomas Fleischmann ($2.100m) / Eric Fehr ($2.100m)
4-Matt Bradley ($1.000m) / Boyd Gordon ($0.850m) / Andrew Gordon ($0.700m)
scratches: Dave Steckel ($1.100m) / Steve Pinizzotto ($0.537m)

DEFENSEMEN
1-Mike Green ($5.250m) / Jeff Schultz ($2.300m)
2-Sheldon Souray ($5.400m) / Tom Poti ($3.500m)
3-Karl Alzner ($1.675m) / John Carlson ($0.817m)
Scratch: Tyler Sloan ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
1-Michal Neuvirth ($0.822m)
2-Simeon Varlamov ($0.822m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(no bonus cushion is used in these calculations)
ROSTER: 23
CAP: $59.4m
PAYROLL: $59.369m
CAP ROOM: $0.031m

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't post on here too much, although I enjoy the "competative" banter of many of the daily posters. As I read through here, I can't help but feel that the "sky is falling" contingent on here are not totally understanding history. I can't imagine anyone here saying that the Red Wings are a bad team, yet for the majority of 20+ years (1966-1989), they pretty much sucked. They even went through a stretch of 17 years with only making the playoffs 3 times during that span. Then, they got better as a team. Starting in the 1991 season, the first year of Detroit's current excellence streak, the Wings haven't missed the playoffs. In 1991, they had 98 points, and lost in the second round of the playoffs. The following year, 103 points yielded a first round playoff exit. Surely the next year was going to be better. Nope 100 points = 1st round bow out. Ok, so where are all the championships?? How about the next year (1994 if you're counting)? Only 70 points! Yet they went to the Finals! Holy Cow! Finally, in 1995, that's gotta be the year. I mean, come on, they had 131 points! And no, that's not a typo, 10 points MORE than the Caps had this year. How'd that end for them? A Stanley Cup? Nope, only the conference finals. When did Detroit finally win a cup? 1996, with only 94 points in the regular season. From my count, that's SIX years of learning how to play in the playoffs in order to win a Cup. The Caps have three years in, with two 1st round outs and a 2nd round out. Must mean we'll never win, ever again.

Now am I saying we're Detroit.? No. Is BB Scotty Bowman? No. But I know several Wings fans and they all see parallels between those early Wings teams and the current Caps team. Success takes time and is NEVER handed to you. The Caps are learning. Be patient. At least our sucking stage didn't last two decades.

Posted by: stuffedinvader | July 2, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

one thing I am begining to love about Souray... he drops em...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf88PiiVnVo

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

While everyone is going crazy to sign this person and that, A better question would be "what defensemen on bad teams have contracts expiring next year". You dont have to pay them for the entire some the "prospects" in the system. If they work out, sign em, if not Corvo them and let them go. Or make the trade in January.
And the one guy they could get on defense that fits the bill on experienced and a banger, that is slow, but this team has enough speed, Andy Sutton. Old, slow and can still hit, would take one mill to keep playing. Better than nothing. Thanks for reading, now you can attack me..

Posted by: RichC3 | July 2, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Kyle Wilson signed with the Blue Jackets.

I definetely don't want Souray anywhere near a Caps jersey.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Pierre LeBrun from ESPN is reporting that Matthew Lombardi signing is imminent. I am assuming its not the Caps.

Posted by: eorr | July 2, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

@eorr I was about to post/ask TEB if the Caps are in on that.

Posted by: vafan3 | July 2, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

LeBrun doesn't give any hints on what team or what teams were talking with him. The consensus on here was that he was too expensive and wanted too long a contract for the Caps.

Posted by: eorr | July 2, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Great post, stuffedinvader.

Posted by: TheDoubleAlex | July 2, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

@FrankM73

Your scratches don't look that appealing. Going into the season with 30K under the maximum is just a horrible idea.

Picking up Souray for 5.2M is just not smart. That and how do you shed the 5.2M the following year to keep the players in RFA / arbitration?

yes it "could" happen.. but it wouldn't be smart. Nice job on posting the cap hit table though. Good looking post.

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | July 2, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Enough with quoting Schultz's reg season stats back to me - the guy has proven in successive years he is not built for playoff hockey. Average forwards walk around him with ease and he instills fear in nobody. And as I've said, I fail to make the Pronger / Chara / Kubina comparisons - each one of those guys is 1) strong as hell 2) not fun to play against, to say the least, & 3) much more mobile than JS, especially the first step and pivot, where it counts for a d-man.

Yes he makes decent outlet passes - as does almost every d-man currently playing in the Russian, Swedish and Czech leagues. But for all the heat MG takes for his playoff performances, at some point, don't you have to look at his partner?

Also, while I can potentially see Carlson assuming 1st-pairing responsibilities, it won't be with Alzner, not this year anyway. I'm not saying we had to get the A-Train, necessarily, but it wasn't just him, Michalek was also available, and Kubina. Three big, strong, very good defensive d-man who make life miserable for opposing forwards. Who's going to do that for us? I love Erskine's work ethic, but c'mon, even Mitchell's faster than he is.

P.S. I wouldn't put Mitchell in the above group because after-effects of those type of injuries linger, unfortunately. Also why I wouldn't go after Savard, he was brutal in the playoffs once Krecji went down and he assumed a bigger role.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | July 2, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Please change that goofy picture of that guy coming out of the closet or drapes or whatever they are with that goofy face. That should not have been used for an article in the first place.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | July 2, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Jurcina signed with the Islanders.

Posted by: Thisistheyear | July 2, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

@Timbo_1

Schultz improved tremendously from 2 years ago to this past year. A guy his age and his size usually does not reach his physical peak (strength and speed combined with coordination) until the coming year or two.

Hopefully he will continue to improve in the off season and his strength and speed will continue to improve.

Remember, players are not stagnant. They do not remain the same year in and year out. Some improve, some get worse. Hopefully Schultz will continue to improve and if last year is any indication it looks as though he does work hard at improving himself.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

@fricknoutstandin:

thanks, I try to leave it black and white since shade of grey on these thread cause havoc, or so it seems!

I do agree that going into the season with 30k in space is bad...

just saying if Souray could be had, that that might be similar to the set up.

Personally, I'm holding out for Mitchell for 3.5 mil and 2-3 years...

Lombardi is clearly too much at 3.8-4.2 mil and that's fine...

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

For all those who hate GMGM, remember there is Glenn Sather. Check this out:

"Based on last year's ice-time, Boogaard will be paid around $4,700 per minute. Alex Ovechkin gets paid about $5,000."

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Fair point sgm, that he did - and I certainly hope the upward trajectory continues. I'm just saying it's still a long way from here to being a #1 shutdown d-man, who can stifle the best playmakers and scorers in the game when it matters most. A very long way.

Also, you can get bigger and stronger, for sure. But I don't know about quicker, slow seems to stick.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | July 2, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

@Timbo_1

Quickness and speed are tough to improve significantly and much tougher to improve than strength but they can be improved.

Either way, I don't see Schultz as a first pairing defenseman. I think he will be a very good 2nd pairing defenseman during his career who can play some minutes, when needed, as a first pairing defenseman.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Juice and Eaton sign with the Islanders.

Unfortunately Mitchell is going to wait a little while before signing so it may be a while until we figure out if he is coming here or not.

I wonder where Sutton is going to end up. He is starting to run out of teams to choose from. I'm not a big fan of him, but maybe that could help the Caps get a good deal out of him. But Sutton is definitely not a top pairing shutdown defenseman.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

This is a good read that kind of reflects my point of view:

http://www.mdprosports.com/2010/07/capitals-smartly-inactive-in-free-agency/

Posted by: wtf_e_fehr | July 2, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse
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Thanks for the article wtf_e_fehr! That was a fantastic read. I completely agree. Shhhh! Don't tell anybody on here about it though. Most people here think we'll never win the Cup or even make the playoffs next year. They'll slowly start to fade away as the season progresses and as we continue to advance in the playoffs.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | July 2, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Islanders sign Eaton for 2 years along with the aforementioned Jurcina 1 year signing

Posted by: _Mark | July 2, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

@sgm

Agreed - and to be fair a potential 2nd pairing d-man in the NHL means you're a pretty damn good d-man. And legit #1s are rare; maybe not being in that slot this year [I hope] will take some of the pressure off.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | July 2, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I think Mitchell will be a great pickup... assuming his brain is fine after getting scrambled last year.

Lombardi is a joke. He's asking for 5M or so, and his stats are deceiving. His points were from being the top line pivot and PP time. Neither of those would factor as much if he were in DC. I would expect 40 pts from him, which would be anemic for a player on our team.

Personally, I'd love to see if we could squeeze Savard for 4.2M, and trade away Fehr or Flash and maybe a pick. Boston is soon to be desperate to unload salary and has centers they need to move. I think we could do both those moves and fit under the cap.

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | July 2, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

If Schultz were 6'2 he wouldnt even be in the NHL

Posted by: ButterSchultz | July 2, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

I've thought for a long time playing with his countryman David Krecji [who's a hell of a player, I guess Chiarelli's smarter than I thought holding onto him] would bring out the best in Flash [who I think we all admit has potential], and you'd have to believe a setup guy like Savard thrive playing with Semin. Two things concern me: 1) before Boston anyway, Savard didn't have the greatest locker-room rep, but maybe that's overrated or changed & 2) he didn't have a great playoffs, and actually played poorly in Krecki's role once DK got hurt. You worry about those head injuries.

But, the B's are definitely looking to move him, maybe it's worth the gamble. Oh yeah - would he be happy being in a sudsidiary role to Backs? Because Backs is hands-down a better all-around centerman.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | July 2, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I still think Asham would be a nice fit to the Caps. It's not that the Caps don't have people who will step up the intensity- it just seems like they need the right motivation (motivator?). A guy like Asham is exactly that type of player.

Posted by: Fro_ | July 2, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

@Timbo_1

All those things you mentioned about Savard make him a risky acquisition. Especially with how many years he has remaining on his contract.

I think his play in the playoffs can be foregiven considering he just returned from a 2 month absence and a serious concussion.

However, if he was able to return to his earlier form from last year(pre-Cooke hit) then he would be an awesome 2nd line center.

On Schultz, I agree that it is important that he is not playing in the #1 pairing role. I think he will be a very good 2nd pairing D man, but asking him to be a 1st pairing shut down man is too much.

Lets see what GMGM has planned. I am still disappointed the Caps didn't acquire AV for the contract he signed (assuming AV would've signed the same deal with the Caps, which no one knows if he would have). But I have the patience to wait and see what happens through the entire off season before making judgments (waiting to see what the entire plan is).

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

No way is Lombardi worth $5M. In a world where Plekanec is worth $5M, Lombardi is worth maybe $3.5M. Plekanec had 70 pts last year and Lombardi had 53. To put that in perspective, Kozlov had like 53 pts for the Caps a few years back and most of us felt he was ineffective. Are Lombardi's "intangibles" that great. Really, he's not worh Umberger, and PJ is like a $4M player.

wtfFehr: Good article. I can somewhat agree. But, no matter what, I see no sense going into the season with Flash on the roster. No sense at all. He's going to get around $3M in arbitration. Like it or lump it (to borrow a phrase), his numbers will get him that or maybe a little lower. There are a number of teams where he can be #1LW. Trade him for anything. Use the money to keep Belanger and upgrade on D. Even if the club says we have 7 NHL d-men, incl Erskine and Sloan, there's nobody behind that. We basically have 5 NHL-calibre defensemen, two 4th pair players, and nothing if an injury.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 2, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

For all the people who are trying to figure why the Caps signed Sabourin, I thought of something that MIGHT be the reason GMGM did it. Varly and Neuvirth are set to be the starting goalies. As we all know, Varly is prone to injuries. If he gets injured, who would be the backup to Neuvirth? Holtby? He needs the experience at the Bears. Cash? Career AHLer. So, why not get a goalie who has proven himself at the AHL level (30-14-4 in 2005-6) but also has played in 57 NHL games. No, he's not the best, but all he'll need to do is play backup in the AHL or NHL, whichever he's needed in at the time. And yes, it actually WAS a glaring hole - one that, in hindsight, I'm surprised wasn't seen by someone on here.

I'm still hoping to see more moves, but this was a good solution to a problem.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

agreed that Lombardi is not worth 5 mil... much less 4 mil to me... 3.5 I would do, but only for 2 years...

FYI on Savard's NTC clause... he alread selected the 5 teams he would accept a trade to for this season, and the Caps were not one of them.

not sure if he could verbally change his mind but as I understand it, that makes Savard a virtual impossibility.

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1

Agree completely.

I really am wondering if the Caps are waiting on Mitchell. He does seem like a perfect fit for the Caps (considering desired length of deal and his playing style)

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

@FrankM73

I read that the rumor of Savard selecting 5 teams is false. That he does not have to select 5 teams until 2011. That he has a full NTC clause as of now, but did select Ottawa and Toronto as places he would waive his NTC for.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

interesting that Jurcina made 1.375 for the caps and signed for 1 mil with NYI

@sgm:
hmmm, saw it in an article, weird... then theoretically he still could be acquired...

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Konopka to NY Isles.

Posted by: sj9096 | July 2, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

@sgm,

Yes, you are correct about Savards NTC. He can waive it any time for any team.. but that is his call.

As for his locker room... that is another potential issue. It is a known fact he is not loved in Boston. When players like the Rechin ball come out and publically say the team is better off without him.. that gives you an idea.

As for Savard I guess in thinking about it, 7 years is a very long time for a 32 year old who just had his brains scrambled. He would be amazing at 4M for the next 2 years... but 5 more after that.. maybe not. I concede my earlier post.. but still would love the idea of our 1B line: Laich, Savard, Semin

Posted by: fricknoutstandin | July 2, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

@FrankM73

It's pure speculation on my part but I think Savard will not be on the Bruins when the season starts.

It just seems as if there is some sort of divide going on there and that the team and/or organization does not have strong ties towards him. Nor does he have strong ties towards the Bruins.

Then you throw in the Bruins salary cap situation and their strength down the middle and with the selction of Seguin. It just makes too much sense.

Now to where he goes, I have no idea.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

FRank: Jurcina's $1.375 came not from the club, but from arbitration. And, although it wasn't in print, I don't think the club was too pleased with that ruling.

Most of Jurcina's intangibles are negative. He doesn't use his size well enough, he's afraid to shoot and he's given to the occasional bonehead play. He was not worth the arbitration amount and this proves it. Intangibles aren't accounted for in arbitration.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 2, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

why even talk about savard when you know gmgm has no plans of doing anything? I guess it is a discussion board.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | July 2, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

@fricknoutstandin

Laich/Savard/Semin would be a great line.

If the Caps were to somehow acquire Savard I think I would want Savard to center line 1 and Backstrom to center Laich and Semin. This would be done to even out the size for each line. With Semin and Laich being less physical than Ovie and Knuble I think that would be worth trying.

But it's a moot point since he isn't on the Caps.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

looks like the Hawks are interested in JT60. would be a nice landing spot for him.

Posted by: doughless | July 2, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

kovalchuck...omg.....no0000000000
Caps dont need any more euros who cant spell defense or play it

Posted by: wendel2 | July 2, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

kovalchuck...omg.....no0000000000
Caps dont need any more euros who cant spell defense or play it

Posted by: wendel2 | July 2, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Wendel, any word on Laing? He getting any offers?

Posted by: Steve_R | July 2, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1:
I remember his arbitration ruling, as well as going "that's too much". I just said he made 1.375, I never said he earned it or deserved it...

@sgm: I'm in complete agreement on Savard not being there at the start of the season. Too many things are little reddish flags that go off as "well that's odd" in my mind...

However, acquiring Savard may indeed hamper future plans to resigned our young players that deserve raises, should the Caps continue with the build through the draft and reward the young players... such as Alzner, Carlson, Neuvirth, Varlamov, Laich, Perrault (depending on how his season goes), etc...

But that's next season and a different story...

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Timmy V - The Avs signed Cash, hence the need for Sabourin to back up Holtby.

Doughless - I guess the Hawks were so pleased with the last Caps goalie they signed, they wanted to try it again. Seriously, best wishes to JT60. Huet - looks like Karma to me. I hope the Hawks assign him to their East BF farm team.

Posted by: zmega | July 2, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Lombardi to Nashville. 3 years, 3.5 per.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | July 2, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

did I miss something about Kovalchuk???

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Lombardi signed with the Preds for 3 years and $10.5M.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: FrankM73 | July 2, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

GREAT!!!! There goes what was a possible linemate for Semin on a good value deal for the Preds on a short-medium term, reasonbly priced deal....

We can't get D or a 2C....

Zzzzzzzz in the front office....

Posted by: squirrel1991 | July 2, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

THis might be repeating someone and I apologize if I am, but not making the right moves is just as bad if not worse than making the wrong moves.

In the past I've been pretty patient with the "rebuild" but enough is enough already. After the last two postseason collapses (aka chokes) something has to change. I'm not quite sure exactly what that is, but c'mon.

Posted by: jwash4472 | July 2, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

AMEN Brother JWash4472....AMEN!!!!!!

We only needed to really change and reinforce one or two key positions and we did nothing...frustrating...

Management says we don't need to blow the team up. And I AGREE. But adding talent and maturity in one or two proven to be lacking areas is not blowing a team up...it's enhancing it.

Posted by: squirrel1991 | July 2, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Did we call the Lombardi contract or what? I think sgm and I both put 3 yrs/$3.5M/yr tops.

This puts Laich in line for an extension between $3.5-3.75M, depending how he does this year. Laich's contract expires next July 1. He is an important piece, especially if Flash is out the door and with Semin very iffy.

I say lock up Laich now at the LOmbardi figures and watch him slightly outplay the contract just as he has the last one.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 2, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

McJoke is worthless. You mean after all this, we couldn't give Lombardi a 3 year deal at $3.5m per? What a joke.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1

The only difference is that Lombardi is a center while Laich is primarily a winger. I think centers make slightly more and Lombardi was a UFA. But I think the comparision, overall, is pretty spot on.

I would expect Lacih to be in the range of $3.4M/yr if he has a similar year to this year.

Posted by: sgm3 | July 2, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if this is how McPhee went to the prom? He waited for all the desireable girls to get asked, the had his pickings over the leftovers (hey, they cost less). Or maybe he waited for the guy who asked two girls and both said "Yes"

Then it went like this: "Hey, George, can you do me a favor? Both Betsy and Susie said they'd go, but that puts me over the cap. If you take out Betsy, I'll pay half."

"Betsy doesn't have a no trade caluse, does she?"

Actually, I'm not making fun of women here. I've found in life that the women most desired as prom dates were the last women I'd want to be with.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | July 2, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Underpants 2...I AGREE FULLY!

Here's what I don't get. We tender to all these RFA's from last year, right?? the SAME GROUP who has choked 2 years in a row...not as a single guy, but COLLECTIVELY.

Then GMGM says we have little cap space to work with. OF COURSE. Because this assumes we keep all the people we don't need in lieu of MAYBE trying one or two knew key people in positions we DO NEED and where we've been weak THREE STRAIGHT YEARS...

Terrible, terrible strategy. Worthy of no seat at my card table, much less Vegas.

Then Ted says Backstrom was a big FREE AGENT signing?????? BACKSTROM is my favorite player and I LOVE and SUPPORTED that deal, BUT...it's not changing the team dynamic in areas we are weak, it's reinforcing our already known strength!!!!!

We needed to make an effort and we made none...we still have time to trade...

Posted by: squirrel1991 | July 2, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

nobody's saying the CAPS aren't a good team, they are. They are just not a great team. It will be years before the current young team can be competitive in the playoffs by becoming the tough, veteran, defensive oriented players that are needed to win in the playoffs. Until then they need to acquire some of these kind of players. It is that simple. Delude yourself all you want, but just look at the results. The CAPS are a blast to watch in the regular season. They play a wing up, and make great, exciting breakout offensive plays. This fills seats, wins the run and gun,gets you a pesidents cup and show cases the offensive talent on this team. It is good enough to complete in playoff series. But it is NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN IN THE PLAYOFFS. Disagree if you like you wishers and hopers, but history bears this out. I expect to be reading the same posts herenext July. Maybe someone could just cut and paste all these and re-post them next July 1, and save ourselves the typing time.

Posted by: festus75 | July 2, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

@squirrel1991

Georgie needs to trade in his purse for a set of cojonies.

If we would have lost both Flash and B. Gordon, we would have had room for Lombardi and Volchenkov. Both got less than we all thought, be honest. Both guys are in their prime.

Would anybody in their right mind not trade Gordon and Flash for Lombardi and Volchecnkov?

Before anyone cries about my math:

We have $4.5m in space
Gordon will make $1m
Flash will make $2.5

Total $8m

Volchenkov $4.25
Lombardi $3.5

Total $7.75

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

festus, you are right.

Adding pieces that are UFA's to your foundation is how championships are won.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Underpants....I agree with you fully....

Now I'm gonna slip out and buy Rosetta Stone Russian, hit the gym and dig out some old hockey gear----

cuz I think I might be able to offer GMGM the right price!!! :-)

Awful....the most frustrating thing for me is the bluster; not since the old Politburo have we seen Groupthink so publicly displayed...

Caps management: "We have learned from this disappointing playoff and will do whatever it takes to compete for and win the Cup". (circa April 2010)

Caps management: "Zzzzzzzzzz...." (circa July 1-2, 2010)

Posted by: squirrel1991 | July 2, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

At least we got Dany Sabourin. Start planning the parade, it will be next June in Pittsburgh or New Jersey.

Washington Capitals Hockey.........35 years of futility

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

At least we got Dany Sabourin. Start planning the parade, it will be next June in Pittsburgh or New Jersey.

Washington Capitals Hockey.........35 years of incompetence

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

1) The Caps did not choke two years in a row. Two years ago we played the team that turned out to be the Cup Champs and took them to 7 games and had two own goal boucnces on game winners for the Pens. We get a little luck we very well could have been in the Cup and could have won it.

2) There are still guys like Andy Sutton and Willie Mitchell on D that are available and with most teams having signed their needs those guys probably will go for cheaper then normal becuase those who needed a D the most already spent their money. To be honest we really need just one D-man and with Green-Shultz as the top line, Alzner-Carlson as the second then really we are just looking for a third line D-man who can help our PK. I know many wanted a top line guy but it just wasn't in the cards.

3) On forwards there are PK guys like John Madden, Jere Lehtinenm, or Ryan Johnson that can come and help our PK and play on the third line. We would then have all regular season to work MP and Flash to see if one of them can be our #2 center and if one of them can't then we can make a trade at the deadline.

Posted by: icehammer97 | July 2, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

as i pull my head out of gmgm's *ss, re-adjust my rose colored glasses and look around - i see the defeatists are still out in full force

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | July 2, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I guess the frustration of this year's playoffs has pushed a lot of Capitals fan over the brink of sanity. If I were GM of the Capitals, I would not sign any of these UFA's at this time. The Capitals already have proven they will win regular season games...in case you forgot, they won the President's Trophy losing all of 15 games last year in regulation and amassing 120 points. So the Capitals will be in the playoffs next year and we have a 10 month wait until we get our next shot at the Cup. With that in mind, the sensible thing is to discover what the team has in its Hershey veterans who have won back-to-back Calder Cups and then tweek the team come trading deadline. There will be plenty of "grit" available then and at a better price the $5 mil per for someone you have never seen in your team's sweater.

This strategy is the right one for LONG TERM (read 10 years) of playoff runs.

Posted by: bill_in_damascus | July 2, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

i wonder if mcphee is waiting to spend money on kovalchuck for a year and then semin leaves to sign him long term. that would be stupid but it is gmgm

Posted by: samb99 | July 2, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I think that part of our problem is that, living in Redskin-land, we're used to dominating the free agent season. Being used to the adrenaline rush of big free agent signings, it's hard to accept the patient/prudent approach. You know if Dan Snyder owned the Caps that Kovalchuk would be a Cap today.

Posted by: zmega | July 2, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

does tarik still work for the post is he on vacation with GMGM

Posted by: samb99 | July 2, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I am beginning to recognize the Caps.

As an organization they are the 2000's Philadelphia Eagles reincarnated.

Bull-headed and determined to build only through the draft and with bargain basement free agents.

Never going out and getting the supporting cast at WR, RB, etc. to allow McNabb to succeed in the postseason.

Ditto here for the Caps.

McPhee is scared to death of free agency because of his misstep with Michael Nylander and Viktor Kozlov.

So, he is going to depend upon 21 and 22 year old players who will be NHL rookies in 2010 to come up and make the difference in a run to the Cup.

Alzer, Carlson, Neuvirth.

Wonderful prospects.

But these freckle faced kids are at least a couple of years away from having their feet under them at the NHL level to be difference makers in the playoffs.

Get ready for the Caps being like the Sharks, perennial quality clubs in the regular season and then teams that receive a quick yank in the postseason.

It's a shame that unlike the Blackhawks or Penguins the Caps can't find a way to MIX their younger stars in with some quality veterans that can help lead the way to a Cup.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | July 2, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I am beginning to recognize the Caps.

As an organization they are the 2000's Philadelphia Eagles reincarnated.

Bull-headed and determined to build only through the draft and with bargain basement free agents.

Never going out and getting the supporting cast at WR, RB, etc. to allow McNabb to succeed in the postseason.

Ditto here for the Caps.

McPhee is scared to death of free agency because of his misstep with Michael Nylander and Viktor Kozlov.

So, he is going to depend upon 21 and 22 year old players who will be NHL rookies in 2010 to come up and make the difference in a run to the Cup.

Alzer, Carlson, Neuvirth.

Wonderful prospects.

But these freckle faced kids are at least a couple of years away from having their feet under them at the NHL level to be difference makers in the playoffs.

Get ready for the Caps being like the Sharks, perennial quality clubs in the regular season and then teams that receive a quick yank in the postseason.

It's a shame that unlike the Blackhawks or Penguins the Caps can't find a way to MIX their younger stars in with some quality veterans that can help lead the way to a Cup.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4

Bravo! Well said.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I guess the frustration of this year's playoffs has pushed a lot of Capitals fan over the brink of sanity. If I were GM of the Capitals, I would not sign any of these UFA's at this time. The Capitals already have proven they will win regular season games...in case you forgot, they won the President's Trophy losing all of 15 games last year in regulation and amassing 120 points. So the Capitals will be in the playoffs next year and we have a 10 month wait until we get our next shot at the Cup. With that in mind, the sensible thing is to discover what the team has in its Hershey veterans who have won back-to-back Calder Cups and then tweek the team come trading deadline. There will be plenty of "grit" available then and at a better price the $5 mil per for someone you have never seen in your team's sweater.

This strategy is the right one for LONG TERM (read 10 years) of playoff runs.

Posted by: bill_in_damascus | July 2, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

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Bravo.....

I for one never wish to go back to the Bruce Cassidy coached Caps of 10 years back.

These teams that signed guys to big contracts to fill needs HAD to do it to stay competitive with the Caps.

NJ? Never seen Lou Lamorello ever dish out a contract like that one to Volchenkov. Stuck with him now and for a long time. All because he gave up Oduya to get Kovalchuk and had lost ability to keep Martin. He knows his goaltending will get worse not better.

PIT? Should have tried harder to keep Scuderi last year - they fixed their D for now with high price FAs because they have nobody in the system to promote. This will haunt them when they need a new Bill Guerin type or anyone to help score goals.

Washington has 8 months yet to decide how to get ready for the playoffs. What they do now will not make any difference unless they do the wrong thing.

Patience....enjoy the summer there is lots to look forward to in 2010-11

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | July 2, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

it's always nice to see the fans of a team that has won absolutely NOTHING in their history telling the teams that have actually won something they're making a huge mistakes...

and they get upset when people like me criticize GMGM... LOL who says you people are biased

Posted by: joek443 | July 2, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

GMGM can do no wrong but Shero and Lamoriello who's a HOFer don't know what they heck they're doing... LOL right

Posted by: joek443 | July 2, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

How quickly many of you newer fans have forgotten the feeling you had after blowing the Montreal series. Everyone is so willing to trust Ted, George, and Bruce to do the right thing. 2 days of watching other Eastern teams shore up their blue lines. The needs have been clear for so long: A defenseman and a center. The answer: goalie Sabourin for Hershey. Most of you Pollyannas won't be as agreeable if you stick around 35 years while other teams hoist the Cup.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | July 2, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Epic fail by the Caps. Sabourin is not even a decent goalie. We had chances to sign good goalies, but we figured two rookies can lead a team to the Cup. Epic fail. Who was saying sign Niittymaki? This guy. Which team is going to regret not signing him? Our team.

Posted by: Siikonen-FIN- | July 2, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

This is our window. It opened up last year. Last year we couldn't get through, okay. This year, we blew it, clearly. Our window is closing. When, I don't know. But I do know it will not stay open forever.

We had some money. Enough to acquire at least one of the guys we all wanted (Volchenkov, Lombardi, Michalek). We then could have made a trade for whichever position was left.

To acquire neither, seems odd. Seems like you are potentially wasting another shot at the window.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

"Trending Topics: Your team's new player is grossly overpaid"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Trending-Topics-Your-team-s-new-player-is-gross;_ylt=Av0dSNtd5YD53Xjx_cT8j9V7vLYF?urn=nhl,253281

here's how it starts:

"For hockey fans, yesterday was one of those rare days when everything worked out great ... if your team didn't make one of the many insane signings that swept across the NHL, that is."

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | July 2, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

We had some money. Enough to acquire at least one of the guys we all wanted (Volchenkov, Lombardi, Michalek). We then could have made a trade for whichever position was left.

To acquire neither, seems odd. Seems like you are potentially wasting another shot at the window.

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

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That's just wrong... we may have had enough money for a one year deal for what one of those guys got - but not 4 or 5 or 6 years like they got. (None of them would sign for less)

If signing them now means a one shot at the cup and then trade-off like Chicago next year and the year after that count me out.

Michalek was a good deal for Pittsburgh. Martin could be - remember now he is going to a team which doesn't play 5 guys back all game. A-train was a good pickup for NJ but he is all thats left of a team that had Oduya and Martin last year. Some will say they are changing their style.

There will be better pickings available through real trades where you can control the contract length come March 1st.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | July 2, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh and the "window" will close a lot faster if you start tying the team into $4 and $5 million dollar deals that end in 2015 or later.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | July 2, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

McJoke is worthless. You mean after all this, we couldn't give Lombardi a 3 year deal at $3.5m per? What a joke.

Posted by: underpants2

And how do you know GMGM didn't contact him and he decided he would rater be a star then a supporting player.

Alzer, Carlson, Neuvirth.

Wonderful prospects.

But these freckle faced kids are at least a couple of years away from having their feet under them at the NHL level to be difference makers in the playoffs.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4

Alzner and Carlson have both played it the playoffs before and were both successful. Carlson was one of our best players in the Habs series. Now they both will also get the benifit of a full season in the NHL which will only make them better. As for Neuvirth he is our backup at this point, which can change, and Varly is our starter. Varly even at his young age has 10 playoff wins which puts him 15th among active goalies who are currently with a team.

For all the talk about the Pens D getting better they lost they power play point man. Their PP was already 19th in the league last season and was much worse when Gonchar was hurt so now what will they do? They also once again have no money to sign a wing for Crosby or Malkin and both will have to create everything they get themselves.

As for NJ they lost two defensive D-men in Oduya and Martin and Marty can't around for more then two years and they lost Kovy who everyone here was saying put them over the top at the trading deadline last year. How did that work out for them by the way?

The moves that might look great when you make them don't work out very often. The Hawks took a great risk this year but going for it all this season at the expense of the next few. It is very possible that they have Huet as their starting goalie as they can not hide him in the minors until the start of the season and can not sign Neimi if someone offers a contact more then they can afford. That risk turned out to be a good one but if they had lost they would have taken a team that could compete for several years and ruined it just for one chance.

Here is why GMGM is actually doing a good job in not panicing like most fans are and making poor decisions. Look at teams like Detroit in the mid 2000s they lost several times as a top seed in the first or second rounds. Did their GM panic? No he stayed came fixed what he thought needed fixing and won another cup in 2008. The Caps have a very good chance to be like those Wings if the fans will just let the front office do thier job.

Posted by: icehammer97 | July 2, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

zmega - thank you, I had not heard about Cash. My point about needing a backup in case Varly or Neuvirth gets hurt still stands though.

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Before anyone cries about my math:

We have $4.5m in space
Gordon will make $1m
Flash will make $2.5

Total $8m

Volchenkov $4.25
Lombardi $3.5

Total $7.75

Posted by: underpants2 | July 2, 2010 5:36 PM |

Your math is not taking something into account - Caps would still need to fit 2 forwards in under the cap. #3C, and a player to replace Gordon.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Epic fail by the Caps. Sabourin is not even a decent goalie. We had chances to sign good goalies, but we figured two rookies can lead a team to the Cup. Epic fail. Who was saying sign Niittymaki? This guy. Which team is going to regret not signing him? Our team.

Posted by: Siikonen-FIN- | July 2, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse


Sabourin is what the Caps needed a Vet who could bounce up and down if we need an injury replacement. We already have two goalies who can play in the NHL. People may say they are young, don't have much playoff experience, whatever but look at the final four teams three had goalies that had never been a top goalie until the last year and Nabby had never done anything in the playoffs in his career.

Also people talk about our PK and how it needs to get better but here is something to thing to keep in mind. 3 of the top 4 PPs in the regular season were in the final 4 in the playoffs with the Hawks being the only exception. Only two of the final 4 teams were even in the top 10 in PK this season. What this shows it maybe for all the talk about the importance of the PK it is really the PP that matters. If ours hadn't gone cold in the playoffs we could have gone far as well.

Posted by: icehammer97 | July 2, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Also people talk about our PK and how it needs to get better but here is something to thing to keep in mind. 3 of the top 4 PPs in the regular season were in the final 4 in the playoffs with the Hawks being the only exception. Only two of the final 4 teams were even in the top 10 in PK this season. What this shows it maybe for all the talk about the importance of the PK it is really the PP that matters. If ours hadn't gone cold in the playoffs we could have gone far as well.

Posted by: icehammer97 | July 2, 2010 10:18 PM

Philly and Montreal were 11th and 12th on the PK though, much better than the Caps' 25th. And the team with the worst PP and the best PK of the 4 did end up winning the Cup. The Caps PK does need to improve, there really can't be any question about that. If they can get up to the 10th-15th range, they will have a much better shot.

Posted by: timmyv38 | July 2, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

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