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Caps, Stingrays Extend Affiliation

The Capitals and the ECHL's South Carolina Stingrays have extended their agreement for the upcoming 2008-09 season.

It will be the fifth year of the two teams' affiliation, during which Caps prospects including right wing Andrew Gordon, defensemen Patrick McNeill and Sahsa Pokulok and center Travis Morin all spent time with the Stingrays.

The announcement comes roughly two months after the Capitals renewed their agreement with the AHL's Hershey Bears. And here's the official release.

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It's nice to have two great clubs to bring/develop players! Welcome back!

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | July 30, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

For Poti I would expect prospects, in fact for anyone we trade to get out of cap trouble we NEED to get prospects. I suggest Poti because I don't personally think he brought that much to the D. He brought experience but not much else. There were not a lot of "experts" that were impressed with our D last year and while I'm no expert I felt the main weakness for the Caps was on the blue line. Alzner and an extra year for the rest of the D should make things better. I would not miss Jurcina, but I'm not sure he is a big cap hit.

Posted by: Bob | July 30, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for sharing the Burnside article, but I must say, I could not disagree more with his assessment. Good grief.

Posted by: Boo! | July 30, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Boo! The guys on Home Ice agree with you and think that the Rangers don't look all that good and have some very large question marks. They also said the biggest question mark for the Caps was goaltending. They felt that JT had ranged from terrible to great in his career and the question is do we get terrible or great or somewhere in between?

Posted by: Bob | July 30, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm banking on the GREAT JT!! :-) In all seriousness, he had some personal issues that clearly impacted his game. Last season he seemed to bounce back. Hopefully playing with the Caps will keep that momentum. I will be curious to see what happens ... it really could go either way, but I am optimistic. Besides, he seems to really "want" to be here - that kind of attitude can make a big difference!

Posted by: Boo! | July 30, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Hope you're right, since once again I have 41 tickets and watching them win is a LOT more fun.

Posted by: Bob | July 30, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya. I love to go to games regardless, but it sure is a lot more fun when the win. The last few games of the season were incredible ... I hope it is always like that this season!

Posted by: Boo! | July 30, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the Beaver, Vogel has a nice video interview with Theo uploaded on the website.

Posted by: Boo! | July 30, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Ok, it's been a long summer, I'm counting days to come back playing... In my spare time I wrote this... Do u think it's tight?

The cold Sun-dwarf
Pulses in the colourless silence
It grants to the small Earth
Neither light nor heat
Without the celestial grantor of life
The nature draws its last breath
And no heart beats
Under the dim light

The white dwarf gives no hope
Of happy future
Nobody writes an ode to the nature
Which once was so great
Life and beauty are powerless
To embody themselves
And the stiff nightingale
Never sings his morning song to the end

Soon the Sun dies out entirely
And the Earth turns into a dead stone
Thousands of suns will shimmer everywhere
But nothing revives the Earth again
The dead Sun will light up the Earth
And the lifeless sunlight
Will be an indifferent observer of death

Posted by: Papa 'D führer' Schultz | July 30, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

if u liked the first one, here's another

Kaltes Licht im Schwarzen
Mit dem unpulsierenden Herzen
Unter der Schwarzsonne

Unter der Schwarzsonne reift eine Macht
Die das Gotteslicht nie sah
Sie aber weiß um dieses Licht
Und sie denkt immer daran

In der Glut des Hasses
Wallt die Macht
Sie sammelt sich
Mit jedem neuen Tag an
Sie wird stärker und stärker
Mit jeder Nacht

Die Strahlen, die nicht erwärmen
Und das Leben nicht schenken
Sind die ersehnte Nahrung
Für diese Macht
Immer hungernd
Und unendlich lüsternd
Die Fehlgeburt
Der unsichtbaren Sonne

Es träumt ihr von dem Schwarzen Metall
Das Menschenseelen verschlingt
Es versetzt sie in Entzücken
Das ist ihr einziges Vergnügen

Wirbelwinde reißen sich
Vom Zentrum los
Die gottlosen Klumpen
Stürzen sich fort
Voller Neid sieht
Die Macht ihnen nach
Ihre Zeit
Ist noch nicht gekommen

Unter der Schwarzsonne
Geht die Zeit rückwärts

Posted by: Papa 'D führer' Schultz | July 30, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

As for our D, I thought they were pretty weak in the first few months of the season but turned it around in the latter part of the season.

Japers Rink had a good post analyzing our D from a statistical standpoint.

Posted by: Sombrero guy | July 31, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

has anybody actually been to an ECHL game?

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 31, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

well the old b'more skipjacks were in the Atlantic Coast Hockey League which was one of the groups that turned into the echl... so kind of. also the tb lightning had an affiliation w/ the icebreakers (i think that was echl) but i'm not sure if they exist anymore.

"has anybody actually been to an ECHL game?"

by the by, people replied to my post of trade flash by saying it doesn't solve the cap issues, however, it might w/ some combo of ltir. but, i would argue for the trade anyway...

Posted by: jim* | July 31, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Hardly anyone refers to each other as "old chap". That's more Second World War fighter pilots than modern English. "I say you chaps, anyone for a spot of tea then we can go give Jerry a damm good thrashing, what what!"

Think more Snatch or Lock Stock or for a more Northern view watch "24 Hour Party People" starring Manchester's own Steve Coogan.

I'll gladly pay my own way over to the States and its something I'm considering. It's 20 years this summer since my last visit to DC so I suppose I'm due. However, I'd expect to not have to buy a single beer the entire time I'll in DC though.

You mentioned trading Jurcina. If we did it only leaves us with 6 D (Green, Poti, Morrison, King Karl, Schultz and Erskine) assuming, as we all are that Pothier is done. As going with just 6 D is unlike who do we replace Juice with if traded? Lepisto makes $700,000 compared to Juice's $881,250 so it would only save $181,250 towards the cap.

I think if Osala has a good camp, he might squeeze Flash out of a spot on the third line. Osala, Feds and Fehr on the 3rd line would have faceoff presence, defensive ability, size plus an eye for goal. Sounds good to me. Plus Osala seems like he would drop the gloves if required. Can't see Flash ever doing that.

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | July 31, 2008 6:37 AM | Report abuse

@Sombrero Guy

I went to a Charlotte Checkers game once. Everyone had a cow-bell. I wanted to shoot myself.

Posted by: SA-Town | July 31, 2008 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Was is das genau?

I'll buy ya a beer ... heck, that's the least I could do! And I won't even call you 'old chap' (well, unless you are dressed like the Red Barron).

Are you serious? I would have wanted to shoot myself, too.

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 7:27 AM | Report abuse

I love my Hershey Bears cowbell. It always comes with me to both Bears & Caps games where I especially enjoy ringing it the ears of pens & flyers fans. I wish I could find another great noise maker -- an obnoxious clapper thing. It was a giveaway at a Bears game years ago but eventually shattered at a Caps game.

Posted by: uncatim | July 31, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Interesting take on the Caps and the division:

Can't say that I agree with Nyls and Stecks on wing, Fehr in over Gordo and Carolina taking the east, but interesting, nonetheless.

BTW, there is also an interesting article in The Hockey News about the Original Six, basically saying that it did not live up to its legend ... say it ain't so!!

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

One cowbell = good.
A few cowbells = fine.
Surrounded by cowbells = bad.

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

I have a fever! And the only cure is....MORE COWBELL!!

Posted by: Will F. | July 31, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

I never made it to an ECHL game. Everytime I am in Myrtle Beach there is no hockey going on. Damn summer :)

Posted by: Tim | July 31, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Will F.:
LOL!! I love that, but it was actually Christopher Walken! Classic video ... aahh, good times! ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Are you talking about those plastic hands that clap together loudly when you shake it like a rattle?

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse


I have to agree cowbells can be obnoxious. I give myself a headache ringing that bell if there is an opposing fan in the seat in front of me.

That was an interesting take on the Caps. Did you notice that Schultz is listed as "other"?

Posted by: uncatim | July 31, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse


Yup, those are the obnoxious clappers -- I love them.

Posted by: uncatim | July 31, 2008 8:06 AM | Report abuse

I'll take that beer in December.

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | July 31, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

I did notice that! But until he toughens up, he is 'other' in my mind, too. RE: the clappers, I have some! They are not Caps clappers, they are just generic. Anyway, if you send me your address, I would be happy to send them to you.

You're on! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I dont see Nylander playing RW on the first line. I think that the top line wont be changed from last year. Nylander will play center on 2nd or 3rd line. He also has Brooks playing center on the 4th line?!?!? No way does that happen.

Posted by: Tim | July 31, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

I used to play hockey for Virginia Tech's club team and we shared the Roanoke rink with the Roanoke Express of the ECHL. I would come early to watch games every so often. That league is the landing spot for desperate men who have banked their lives on making the NHL, but are a long way off. There are a lot of fights, and the passing and goaltending are terrible. Since they often play in small towns without a hockey tradition, the games feel more like pro wrestling or a tractor pull -- the crowd cheered more for fights than goals. I always feel sorry for a prospect who is sent down from the AHL to the ECHL as it's the limb a between a career in hockey and finding a job selling junk door-to-door.

Posted by: JIM | July 31, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

"has anybody actually been to an ECHL game?

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 31, 2008 1:21 AM "

I went to a Reading Royals game a few years ago. The best part of them is "Stoudts Under the Ice". Stoudts is a local brewery and they have a bar with their wares under one of the seating sections.... better beer than what you get at the Phone Booth.

Posted by: Gustafsson | July 31, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

My parents took me to Icebreakers games all the time over the two years of their existence. I don't remember the quality of play, only how fun it was.

Posted by: Jordan | July 31, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I went to an Alaska Aces game during my vacation there 1.5 years ago. It was awesome. A ton of fights, horrible passing and passion oooozing out the wazoo.

It was a good time but it definitely made me appreciate the big time.

Posted by: MetalCap | July 31, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I went to a few Richmond Renegades games back in the day when they were still the Caps' affiliate (and still existed).
My dad had these wonderfully obnoxious rachet things that we used to take to games back in Canada. The only problem is, you have to use your whole arm to get them going and somebody would end up with a concussion if you didn't have enough room. They were the noisemaker of choice until the rink started threatening to confiscate them.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

There has been so much talk of Alzner being with the big club this coming season. Do we realistically think he is going to be ready? Wouldn't it be better for him to play in Hershey and possibly dominate there than play in DC and possibly struggle?

Posted by: Phil C. | July 31, 2008 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Not ready, he'll be in Hersh.

Can we drop the "Old Chap" thing already....I had a mental picture of what Dave from UK looked like....Sort of like the Monopoly guy....And that is where the "Old Chap" came from....


Horray for your last year. Then you can come up here, get a job like the rest of us poor bastards and get some tix.

Posted by: #94 <----Headache | July 31, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

The "E" is getting better and better every year as more teams start sending players down there as an option to what may already be a full AHL team. I agree though, when I went and watched the Renagades a couple years ago it was like watching a full contact beer league game. I think you will see that over the next couple years the ECHL will grow in skill level as NHL teams start to focus on them as another avenue to develop talent

Posted by: Mike | July 31, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

"like watching a full contact beer league game"

that was my impression, and I am sure that is a slight exaggeration but I have wanted to catch an ECHL game, but don't want to go out of my way to do so. One of these days....

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 31, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Monopoly Guy!! Not even remotely close :)

Never seen an ECHL game but have watched lots of ECHL players.

Often players who knew they weren't ever going to advance up the ladder to AHL/NHL teams decide to try their hands in Europe. The British Superleague/Elite League has had lots of ECHL players over the past 10 years or so.

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | July 31, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Too many cow-bells is a BIG problem.

Imagine if we had 10 of those blow horns at Caps games?

I think Leonsis lets one in. If you show up with one yourself, your not getting it in.

Posted by: SA-Town | July 31, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Also...the horn guy at Caps games tries to have some decency when he blows the thing...Not in the middle of a power play, or at a time when we dont want to hear it.

Posted by: SA-town | July 31, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

I have Bob......If I see another idiot say we have to trade someone to get out of "cap trouble".....I don't know what I will do but its dumb....

Posted by: 94 | July 31, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

MONOPOLY GUY?!?!? HA HA HA HA HA!!!! :-D That's funny!! (Dave - you better be wearing a monocle and top hat if you want that beer! ;-))

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Yep, that's the plan! Unless I get a much better job offer somewhere else, I'll be up there at this time next year. Exciting, yet nerve-wracking.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

the monopoly guy's moustache was pretty cool.

Posted by: Tim | July 31, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I have been to a Stingrays game. It was very cheesy...the fans and "cheerleaders," I mean. The game itself was just as the previous posters wrote - sloppy and scrappy. But it was a dirt cheap way to catch a hockey game so I'll take it.

The name Davis Parley fascinates me. I have no idea why.

Posted by: scforme | July 31, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Sounds alot the ol' Iron League!

Posted by: Reg Dunlop | July 31, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

ECHL good for young goaltenders. Tons of rubber.

Posted by: sporttraveler | July 31, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

@Sombrero Guy

We were STH for the Tallahassee Tigersharks for a number of years before they folded. They were ECHL, and in fact Woods (coach of our Hershey Bears) played for them. I helped with coaching of their hockey camps. Lots of fun.

The longest most penalized fight was in Tallahassee against Mississippi, I think. The other team's bench emptied.

Posted by: Greg S. | July 31, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I've been to an ECHL game in Reading, and I must say, it was brutal. I am use to going to AHL games, and the ECHL was comparable to a high school hockey game, only with fighting, compared to the AHL. The AHL is much more value for your money than the ECHL. The skill level is just a touch below the NHL, and they tend to have a few more fights than the NHL. The only thing comparable to the AHL, in the ECHL, is horrible refereeing. The officials in both leagues is awful. It makes the refs in the NHL look like officiating gods. The only thing I really enjoyed about my ECHL trip to Reading was their chant when the refs came on the ice. It was "I'm blind, I'm deaf, I wanna be a ref!" Other than that, it was a big waste of my money, to see a hockey game. We left early, as a matter of fact, to go to Hershey for their autograph night. AHL is definitely the way to go, if you wanna see live hockey, but don't have the cash to shell out for the NHL.

Posted by: Matt | July 31, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

*Starts growing moustache and searching ebay for monocles and top hats*

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | July 31, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse


Be prepared for a tough, tough market. I graduated in December and it took me nearly 6 months to land my first job (and first season ticket package). I was also an English major. Unless you plan to write or teach straight out of school, don't make the same 'mistake' I did!

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | July 31, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I'm a business major, concentrating in entertainment management. I already work for a company here that has several locations in and around DC. They like to keep their student employees in the company so I'll probably just end up staying with them.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

business major, concentrating in entertainment management?!? Sounds like you need to work for the Caps!!

Scary thing is that I looked on ebay and you can buy both there!! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Well that would be Dream Job #1! But I'm not going for that one yet. I just need Job #1 at this point. And now I've lost my own mental picture of Dave and its replaced with the monopoly guy.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Always go for the dream job. If not, you may end up getting comfortable somewhere not nearly as cool. Don't let it happen to you!

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | July 31, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

@ DrinkingPartner:

Amen to that!

Posted by: tess | July 31, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Aim for the stars JMU. Or maybe get a job with the Pens and bring them down from within!! *Evil laughter*

Isn't it weird how you can build up mental images of people who comment on here. Some are easier than others, Sombereo Guy for example!

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | July 31, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Phil C.:
i agree. i would think alzner has been so much better than anyone he's played against at this point that if he has any kind of a fragile ego and starts the season with the caps and gets burnt often (i know it's a lotta ifs) - it could take a while for him to get his confidence back. i still say start him at hershey, give him plenty of minutes so that he gets used to the change of pace at this level. if he is as good as the reports - he'll be in dc soon enough

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

if you think the ECHL is just like high school hockey, try getting on the ice with those guys.

There are plenty of draft picks playing in that league and there are plenty of guys who dominated the NCAA.

they are not in the NHL for a reason but its still good pro hockey to watch

Posted by: Anonymous | July 31, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Victorian Silk Lined Folding Black Top Hat In Box $81.00

Antique Gold colored Monocle type optical lens $6.45

Stylish Costume Fake Mustache Lot of 3 Assorted Packs $4.99

Seeing the Monopoly guy sitting next to you Rockin the Red PRICELESS

Posted by: #94 | July 31, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse


You said you sit in Section 400? What row?


I think you should work for the Caps and get me discount tickets. Now that is reaching for the stars :)

Posted by: #94 | July 31, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I just got a package for Row H. I cannot wait to start using them.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | July 31, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I went to a few ECHL (then WCHL) games in San Diego a few years back. Walked up before the game and bought seats on the glass. That might be why they are no longer in existence. But it did make my game worn Gulls jersey a "throwback"

Posted by: old time hockey | July 31, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Been to many ECHL games. Saw how Ollie got the name Zilla; he had some real anger issues when he was playing in the ECHL, Hampton Roads. PG county had a team for two years, I think, the IceBreakers.

Posted by: uncatims-bro | July 31, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

To me:

Jschon looks like Dat Phan, the Chinese comedian.

Boo!! looks like my Mom.

Sombrero guy looks like Martin Short from The Three Amigos

JMU is a supermodel that drinks Molson.

Chief is a high school cheerleader.

Posted by: #94 | July 31, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

@old time hockey,
I was living in SD when Lindy Ruff was playing for "Da Gulls" as we called them, at the twilight of his career. It was strange seeing an old timer out there with the kids, but I am sure that's how he cut his teeth in coaching. Good times at the Oil Filter Arena (that's what it looked like).

Posted by: another old timer | July 31, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Haha, Dave, you may not be the Monopoly guy, but maybe you're his evil twin! I'm really not that sneaky. They would catch me, probably putting itching powder in Malkin's jock or super gluing all of Crosby's sticks together. Although I suppose I could find ways to lose them fans. Like hiring Ice-Billies. Like hillbillies only worse. "No, Mr. Lemieux, they're a great idea! You can really connect with your fanbase this way."
I've looked for internships or entry-level with the Caps, but either I always miss them, or they don't publish it. I'll probably end up working at the VC anyways.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

94, Its Labatt Blue!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

JMU is a supermodel that drinks Molson AND will work for the Caps and comp game tix at center ice on the glass!!

wow - i think i have a crush on someone now

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm too short to be a supermodel.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Random and off topic... NHL 2008 Attendance by team:

As expected Canadian teams are near the top, but two surprises: Detroit in 7th and Tampa Bay in 8th.

I got my 11 game pack today! I'm planning on going to some more, but I couldn't quite layout the full season amount up front.

Posted by: AM Capsfan | July 31, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Ugh this time of year -- no hockey, no football, and no skiing (unless you are a millionaire like Dave from UK what with his top hat and monocle). I wish I could afford to ski in South America of New Zealand. Skating in an inside rink is pretty nice, but just not the same.

Posted by: JIM | July 31, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I've watched Pee wee's play at Cabin John? Isn't that a step above ECHL?

Posted by: Leeguru | July 31, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The heat must be getting to me -- that should be South America OR New Zealand (not the South America in New Zealand)

Posted by: JIM | July 31, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse


Atta girl, I'm also Labatts over Molson by a mile. Do they still make Old Vienna? I sure loved those splits. Anyone remember their old slogan song?
"just say OV, add a L and an E and you've got love...Love OV.." Hey, that could be OUR motto.

Posted by: Crystal Beach Rocked | July 31, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

The attendance needs to go up this year, big time. Philthy is way ahead of the Caps, and even TB, Atl, and Carolina are ahead of the Caps. Get some tickets!

Posted by: JIM | July 31, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Anybody know the last time the Caps played Detroit? And the last time they played in DC?

Posted by: AM Capsfan | July 31, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't know when I'm up in the great white north I gravitate towards Kokanee over Molson or Labatt.

Posted by: 8b4Ovie | July 31, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Philly is always up there. Even 2 years ago they still almost had capacity

Posted by: Tommmy | July 31, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Crystal Beach, Not sure. I haven't been up there for more than a week at a time since '96.
Kokanee's not bad either. As long as its not Keith's, nobody's complaining. That stuff makes me want to gag.
Lee, haha, maybe. If only because little kids are sort of cute when they're incompetent. Older guys, less so.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Caps played Detroit last year away and lost in a shootout. Dont remember the last time they played them home. Might have been 06-07 season.

Posted by: Tim | July 31, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

YOUR MOM?!?!? Geez, thanks!! :-P What on earth have I said to make you think that? I hate to break it to ya, but I'm guessing that I am not old enough to be your mom ...

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

the caps were in detroit dec 17 2007 - they lost 4-3 in a SO. i thought this was a turning point in there season last year - that they could 'hang' with anyone in the league

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

But if you look at our road-game average, we're 8th. Part of that obviously comes from playing the teams that have high draws, but part of it can be contributed to having an exciting team led by the most exciting player to watch.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Backstrom, Alzner, Lepisto, Bourque are the only Caps that are exempt from waivers per Vogel yesterday.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I think those teams playing the Caps would have drawn those fans anyhow.

Or we can take it this way...more people care about the Caps than actual Caps fans

Posted by: Tommmy | July 31, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't me that asked about the last time we played the wings, at the time we played them there they'd only lost 2 home games during the whole season at that point and we took them to a shootout.

Needless to say I've included that game in my 11-pack, unfortunately it seems everyone else did too, it takes me out of my normal section.

Posted by: 8b4Ovie | July 31, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

@ jmu_capsgirl - the Caps typically post their openings on (you can also get there from - click on "Jobs." The off-season is typically when there is the most turnover. I know of some current openings that may or may not be posted, but I guess you're not available just yet. Let me know when you are, always happy to help a fellow Duke. Just don't expect to get rich working in sports.

Posted by: Jill | July 31, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Not having basketball helps a teams NHL attendance big time...i.e Tampa

Posted by: Anonymous | July 31, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Jill, Thank you so much! I'll keep an eye out during the next year. Hopefully something will be open in May when I graduate. I definitely don't expect to get rich. Thanks again!!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

What a dull day today. I have been keeping busy by watching hockey fights on youtube.

Posted by: Tim | July 31, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Boo...You say a lot of things that make sense like my Mom so I invision her when reading your entries. I am more of the reactionary kid.

Ok ok JMU Labatts it is!!!

@Drinking Partner

I am in row E and they are great seats!!! Right on the Red line, cant beat them.

Posted by: #94 | July 31, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The daily blog from NY times, interesting, we do have good ownership here, we could be in Nashville or Tampa

Posted by: Anonymous | July 31, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Center ice is exactly the reason I got those tickets. I'm just sad to know that I could've gotten Center Preferred for the same price per month had I gotten them 3 months ago. Oh well, next season maybe.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | July 31, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

OV Splits, good, Labatts Ice great, Molson XXX Awesome.

Posted by: Super | July 31, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

What up Super????

Hows the back my friend? We still doing whitlocks tonight?

Posted by: The #94 | July 31, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I hate to be a nay-sayer, but Canadian beer pales in comparison vs the beer from the U.K.

I printed out the NHL review from the Japer's link. Very interesting read. I didn't realize that Green's production was that good even strength.

Posted by: Steve R | July 31, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

@Steve R

Had you read one of my gushing comments on Green, you would've known that Green was 2nd only to Lidstrom scoring even up for defensemen.

If I werent me, I wouldn't have read it either...

Posted by: JSchon | July 31, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse


I thought I read all 265 of your posts from the last month.... (I kid). Not sure how I missed that info, it would have given me more info/ammo to use against the "He's not worth the money" crowd. Bummer.

Posted by: Steve R | July 31, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan Roy (Patrick's son) is facing an assault charge for that brawl back during the season.
@ Steve R, I've never had UK beer. Any brands available stateside that you would recommend?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Jmu, try Newcastle brown ale. Pretty tasty. I think it's from the UK.

Posted by: Tim | July 31, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh okay, I've had Newcastle. Its not something I'd drink all the time, but it is pretty good.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

On the Detroit game...

"Jan. 31 vs. Detroit: The Caps showed they could play with the Wings at the Joe in December of last season, getting a game-tying goal from Alex Semin with 1:34 left in the third only to lose in a shootout in which Olie Kolzig was thoroughly embarrassed (three goals on three backhanders, you'll recall). The last time the Caps beat Detroit in D.C. was on Halloween, 2000, and that is the only home win for the Caps in the series since January 30, 1994 (1-9-1, including the playoffs). So, um, Washington's due." - Jaspers Rink

Posted by: AM Capsfan | July 31, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Bass and Boddington's are also English, although if we're talking Eurobeers, I'd hop on board with anything from Germany, Spaten, Hofbrau, Warsteiner, I could go on.

However to keep it Caps related I think we'd have to switch the topic to vodka, which is what the Alex's drink, although I think you can see some yeunglings in Laich's/Green's fridge during their "Caps Cribs" bit.

Posted by: 8b4Ovie | July 31, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I went to this restaurant called Becks in the city... The best selection of import beers, all on tap. Some of them were just plain ridiculous in cost, $30 a pint for a few of them...

Posted by: JSchon | July 31, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

remind me not to go to happy hour with you anytime soon. $30 a pint?? i'll stick with heineken - should be able to tip back 4 or 5 for that price

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, I only looked at the beer menu for those, I didnt spend more than $10 a pint...

Posted by: JSchon | July 31, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Vodka? Now we're talking. Obviously Stoli and the Goose. Fris isn't too bad. 'Noff is just standard. Aristocrat should be avoided whenever possible.
Those are Yeunglings in Laich's fridge.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | July 31, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Have to lump in Irish beers with English for a good list:
Bass and Boddington's as per 8b4Ovie
Sam Smith
Fullers ESB
Old Peculiar (sp?, a little pricey but good)

And I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.

We need better beer at the phone booth.

Posted by: Steve R | July 31, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"Sombrero guy looks like Martin Short from The Three Amigos"

haha I posed this question to three friends and each said I favor Dusty, aka Chevy Chase more so than Martin Short, but the general atire would be the same.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | July 31, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I was just commenting on what I envision people as on the other end. I have met quite a few of the people on here so I know what some people look like but until I meet you, I will continue thinking that you look like what was previously specified.

Its a lot better than what I used to think. Jschon had me going to the circus people and that is all I could envision!!!

Posted by: #94 | July 31, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse


You're on the right track. Boddies, Guinness are very good but have you tried Caffreys? Gorgeous and easy to drink but you know about it after 4 pints.

As far as lagers I prefer European. Can't beat Belgian or German stuff. also I was in Prague last month. Wow, amazing beer. Budvar (the original Bud) or Staropramen. Mmmmmmmmm beer!

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | July 31, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Dave UK Caps Fan:
said: Mmmmmmmmm beer!

sounds a lot like homer simpson - do you have any resemblance to him

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse


That was the reference I was going for by I must stress that in no way do I resemble the great man.

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | July 31, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Y'all are making me thirsty. And here I am looking to replace Budweiser as my beer. I may be going German

Posted by: Leeguru | July 31, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Well Lee you already sell their cars, why not go the whole way and get yourself a pair of Lederhosen.

Just try to not invade Poland.

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | July 31, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Dave, it's too much work to invade another country. I myself shy away from work whenever possible (just ask my boss)

I will try a Hefeweizen, but those durn imports are so expensive. I love Grolsch, again, too expensive.

Posted by: Leeguru | July 31, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

This time of year, Pilsner Urquell, Becks, Sam Adams Lager (or light), Amstel Light or Warsteiner. Two local pubs have Warsteiner on tap, delicious. Come winter, Harpoon, Sam Adams, Magic Hat, and Tuckerman's -- all New England beers. Tuckerman's is hard to find and a great name. It's named after a slope on the shady side of Mt. Washington that is skiable into June. I just skiied it this last June. It's a two day hike with skis and gear, but worth it. I spend a lot of time skiing and nothing says amen to an awesome day of blacks and double blacks like a hottub and beer. I usually sneak in a red bull and vodka about 2pm to awaken the spirit and legs for a last few screamin' runs on north face slopes that have softened up by then. Best runs 7-9 am, 11-1, and 2-4 pm when the slopes are wide open. Yeah, yeah, I know, it's a hockey page, but I love most all winter sports. The 2010 Olympics in Whistler/Blackcombe will be awesome.

Posted by: JIM | July 31, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

scotty bo 2 the blackhawks

Posted by: jim* | July 31, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

BTW, A good vodka is Finlandia if you like smooth. I like Stoli, but can't stand Grey Goose or Absolut -- they finish like paint thinner.

An addition to the 2010 Olympics -- they will rock if they actually show hockey games instead of the life story of a luger or the acursed figure pairs. I just want to watch games, not how some skater is boohooing over an equipment failure (that is after she had her goon boyfriend attack a better skater).

Posted by: JIM | July 31, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Unless you really like yeast, stay away from hefewizen's -- it's like drinking a loaf of unbaked rising bread. I also don't like the whole unfiltered beer thing. If I want to drink pondscum, I can slurp up some Slurm

Posted by: JIM | July 31, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I've been out all day (golf) so I have to catch up:

ECHL - Been to a couple in VA over the years. But I got hooked on hockey back in the 70's when the old EHL came to the Roanoke Valley. They were called the Salem Rebels. The EHL eventually became the SHL and was the precurser to what is now the ECHL. I remember the hated Charlotte Checkers and Greensboro Generals. Us kids would go to the end of the concourse and play floor hockey with a wadded up concession cup using our feet. We didn't realize it was really soccer. Ah, those were the days...

@ UK caps fan:

If you come over for a set of games, I will provide you with a game ticket and cover your drinks and food for one of the games, including before and after. I challenge all of my other STH posters to poney up and show our great friend from the 'motherland' the same considerations.

Posted by: kenwood | July 31, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

@UK Caps Fan

Try to find a part of the schedule with four home games in a week. If I can get three more STH to help out, it could be a GREAT week for you!

Posted by: kenwood | July 31, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Beck actually has some beers that are like $60 - $70 a glass!!

They don't sell Caffrey's in the US anymore - once Coors bought it, they were afraid it would compete with their similar beer(s).

I still have not recovered from the "my mom" comment. I never thought that being called sensible would feel like an insult! ;-) I guess I'm feeling a bit like a den mother. How old do you think I am, anyway?

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

for $60 - it better come with a neck massage, 22oz. porterhouse steak and a shoeshine!!

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

btw - i never try to guess someones age - begin married 28yrs tells me that is a loaded question
don't answer - mostly only bad things can happen (unless you come in way under)
i'm breaking my own rule (i always do) - so here is my guess: 24

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

$60 american in Manila... gets you a lot... so I hear...

Posted by: JSchon | July 31, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

i almost went with k street - but i think your right about manila

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

If I remember correctly, Boo! has a kid or two? What say you, Boo?

Posted by: silly boo | July 31, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to need therapy with the Lee in lederhosen stuck in my mind. Dave, that was mean spirited.

Seasonal beer: Brooklyn Brewing Co's Chocolate Stout. Only in the winter time.

Good all year round beer: Dominion Brewing Co's Oak Barrel Stout.

Yes there is a theme with the stouts.

Back to hockey, any thoughts on if Tampa is going to try to package some of their 42 forwards for some help on D?

Posted by: Steve R | July 31, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

OK ... where does everyone think that Sundin will end up???

Silly Boo:
You are silly, indeed - Boo has no children (other than the furry four-legged variety).

You are a very wise man ... well, you were until you did not take your own advice! LOL!! How can you say you "never" do that and then turn around and do it?!? Silly CaptKirk. Oh well, at least you didn't guess that I was old enough to be your mother. For that you get to go straight to the "good boy" list!! ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse


I'm guessing he stays in Tor. And I'm guessing that you're not a day over 29.

Posted by: Steve R | July 31, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

So who was learning how to play hockey last night? How did it go? Is there hope for all of us to start a summer league?!? ;-)

I think you are right, although ESPN says that six teams are after him (including Vancouver), so who knows! BTW, I was not fishing for people to guess my age, I was just surprised that 94 said he thought I would look like his mom. Nonetheless, you're on the good list, too, for not thinking that I am old enough to be your mother (but then again, you were already on that list! ;-)).

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

wow - my wife was able to train me - and it only took 28yrs

Posted by: CaptKirk | July 31, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I think you need a refresher ... ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

5 worst off-season signings:

Uh oh - the Caps got a DIShonorable mention!!

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

From The Hockey News (I thought players were threatening to leave [when they could] if Therrien returned?):

"News: The Pittsburgh Penguins sign coach Michel Therrien to a three-year contract extension.

Views: The transformation of Therrien from an emotional hothead who sought confrontation in junior hockey and the minors to a very good NHL coach has been a remarkable one. Therrien has matured into the role and managed to strengthen himself in the X's and O's area, which was once the weakest part of his game. He deserves the contract extension and, like Bruce Boudreau, continues to prove that coaches do not have to be Dave King clones in order to succeed."

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

This blog has become a joke! Hundreds of garbage posts that have nothing to do with the article? Are these shut-ins who got rejected from the shut-in society (OB)?

Posted by: caphcky | July 31, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

How much can you say about the ECHL? Wait a minute, you DIDN'T say anything about the Stingrays or the ECHL ... please, do tell! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | July 31, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Just got home from the Nats Philly game. Same old crap..Philly fans are low to tell Nats fans how bad they are, yet have no answer for where they were the last time the city won ANYTHING!!!

I cant wait for those goons to walk back in the VC this fall...It is on..

Posted by: I hate Philly | July 31, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I am telling ya, Blackhawks know what they are doing, signed Huet, Campbell and now Bowman is hired.

I think GMGM maybe was not right on Huet. Shoulda, coulda sign him in May.

Posted by: King | July 31, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Who Eh, Who Cares?

Posted by: Bob | July 31, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for your more than generous offer but there would be more than just me coming over! I'll take you up on the offer of a beer if we ever made it over. The ideal situation would be to see a game (or two) in DC and then visit New York and see the Caps win at MSG.

I'm not going to guess your age but I'll guess Sundin stays in Toronto. If he was going to leave he should have gone 3 years ago.
As for those 5 worst signings, I'd have definitely had Finger in the top 5. As for JT, well the jury is out on that one. It could prove to be the signing of the summer.

Who pays $60 for a pint?? Even with the current exchange rate, that is still well beyond my limits. It would make for a quick night out though. After the first pint: "Right lads, that's me off home. Bye"

Posted by: Dave UK Caps Fan | August 1, 2008 4:57 AM | Report abuse

All joking aside, the award to Shaone Morrisonn is too much. Both because of our position with the salary cap but also commensurate with his talent. This isn't so much a knock against Morrisonn as it is against his compensation. I think GMGM was correct, more accurate, with the reported offer of a $200k raise.

Morrisonn's offensive contribution is nothing. A defensemen who stays back, allowing Mike Green to play with more a forwards persona could be handle by other players on the team right now or by someone else at a lot less cost. I mention this because we are over the salary cap and have a major shortage in talent at right wing. Viktor Kozlov generally gets an automatic nod on the first line yet only scored half as many goals as Chris Clark put up when he was there. In the playoffs Kozlov pretty much disappeared.

This right wing problem compounds itself if Clark isn't 100% when the season starts. Unless some miracle occurs in camp where Francois Bouchard and/or Eric Fehr have a Mike Green breakout performance we are too weak at right wing to think seriously about the Stanley Cup.

This is why Morrisonn's award has done many things not good for the team. First, it may place Karl Alzner in Hershey. That may be a good thing but only if he isn't NHL ready. The question I ask, is Alzner capable of doing Morrisonn's job and doing it much better? Can Jurcina do Morrisonn's job just as well, or close for half the cost?

What I'm leading up to is that very possibly, especially if Clark is a no go at the start of the season and we don't find a miracle right winger in camp, I think Morrisonn becomes a expendable not only from a salary cap point of view but also because we would need to find a right wing capable of playing on the first or second line. And, I don't mean Mark Parrish!

Posted by: Seravat Hldings | August 1, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

I would have guessed that he would stay in Toronto, too, but then again, if he was going to do that, then why hasen't he done it already?!? So maybe he really is shopping around?!?

RE: $60 for a beer, I can't imagine why it is so expensive, but their beer list is soooo long that it is like a big, fat wine list! They have all types for all budgets. Oh and they are walking distance to the VC, so it is definitely worth checking out before/after a game! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | August 1, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse


That is a very generous offer on the clappers! I would love one. What is the best way to get you my address without giving it to flyers fans?

Re: Beer. I buy an Old Dominion product at VC in the 400s.

My brother made me less than proud with his ECHL post. He was unable to correctly spell Olie. By the way, he is a teacher.

Posted by: uncatim | August 1, 2008 7:37 AM | Report abuse


It is I who is learning to play the game. It's kinda sad that I grew up only 45 minutes from Kingston Ontario (NY side) and didn't have the opportunity to play.

Posted by: Super | August 1, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

The Blackhawks have 12M tied up in two keepers and they know what they're doing?

Posted by: Steve R | August 1, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Just to remind everyone, I have 3 bands playing a concert at my house tomorrow. For more info, email


I have no clue but usually the voice of reasoning is mistaken for being old.

Happy Friday everyone....

Posted by: #94 | August 1, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Uuummm ... do you have anyone's email address from here? If so, we can connect through them.

So, how did it go? At least you have survived to tell about it! :-)

Well at least you did not call me the bearded lady!! ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | August 1, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

What do you guys think about section 403 or 414? I think I am going to do a weekend plan or the pick 11 plan. I never needed season tickets before because my wifes work has a suite at VC so we went to most of the games for free, but now that they are more popular more people want to use the box.

Posted by: Tim | August 1, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse


I think Super is in Section 403 and he loves them. Its not all about where you sit, its who are the season ticket holders around you.

I have a pretty decent section with the occasion @sshole but they have pretty much learned to let me do what I want and they will get the business. But I can curse like a sailor, that was their one stipulation :) and I adhere.


Yeah get Jschon, he called you the Bearded Lady!!!!

So how old are you? Is it still inappropriate if we are mates?

and Super did very well. Yall should come cheer him on but watch out, when he takes a spill, he doesn't half ass it, he goes downnnnnnn!!!

Posted by: #94 | August 1, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

They are about the same - any chance you can get behind the net?

Posted by: Boo! | August 1, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Or maybe Super sits in 430? I dont know. I mix everything up.

People would still be looking for a restaurant called "Gorgeous George's" to watch away games instead of "Thirsty Bernies".

By the way Sup lets grab one at old Thirsty's tonight?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 1, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Do you think sitting behind the net is better? I am going to the open house on the 13th so I guess I can figure it out then. We sat in section 400 for the last regular season game and it was sweet but I think its out of my price range. Thanks for the suggestions.

Posted by: Tim | August 1, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

It's Friday, and that means 3v3 ice hockey at Ballston. Anyone else lacing 'em up tonight? Look for the young kid with the visor.

Roger (I'm assuming that's you #94) - 3 bands playing at your house? Local bands I'm assuming? I'd email you, but good ol' work has it blocked off.

I'm glad the Caps have extended their affiliation with the Stingrays, it gives the Bears a place to send Caps prospects that wouldn't otherwise be skating.

Boo! - Your posts of reconciliation do have overtly mother-like tones, but I wouldn't say you're old enough to be my mother (and I'm probably young compared to most posters here).

Posted by: CapsCorndog | August 1, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Isn't Georgeous George a character from Snatch? For some reason, I hear Jason Statham say it every time I read it.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | August 1, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

@ Tim

I always like sitting behind the net (especially if the Caps shoot there twice). Getting a panoramic view is nice too, if you can sit on or near the red line.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | August 1, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I sit in 413 and get a great price on the seats. We have been there for years and love the seats and the view we get of the game. The best seats in the VC are the club seats, the next best are the 400s, and the bottom bowl is OK up high, but it is impossible to see the flow of the game from the glass. I love sitting by the glass for a game or 2, but would not trade my nosebleed seats straight across for seats down low, it is all about speed, size, and power down low, but no feel for the game.

Posted by: Bob | August 1, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse


I assume you play at Kettler, are you on a regular team or just playing the 3 on 3? I talked to Ben and I have been trying to get on a team there. A or AA. I wear a tinted visor as well, lost any chicklets playing?

"Why would you put Gorgeous George in a bare knuckle boxing match a week before he fights?" (In an English accent) Whats up with those sausages Charlie?


I sit section 400, Row E and besides maybe the seats in front of me, I would venture to say they are close to the best seats in the house, other that the 200 section on the Red line.

Posted by: #94 | August 1, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

@Tim - Behind the net is one of my favorite places to sit, but i got my season tickets in the upper corner just because it was a lot cheaper


Yeah, he was the bare knuckled boxer that got taken out by Brad Pitt in the first third of the movie.

Turkish: "We've lost gorgeous george..."
Brick Top: "well he ain't exactly a pair of _____ car keys now is he"

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | August 1, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Thanks guys! I wasn't positive about the movie, just the voice.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | August 1, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Nice Sombrero!!! F-ing

Is anyone getting any work done today? Yesterday felt so much like a Friday, I am kinda confused what I am doing at work today.


You can't email

Are you in the CIA or something?

Posted by: 94 | August 1, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

94, I'm actually redoing everything I did yesterday. Caught an error two minutes before I left for the day. Unfortunately, not something I could have known about before then. Thankfully, it was sort of my boss's fault so I get to keep my head and my job.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | August 1, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse


sent you and email...

Posted by: JSchon | August 1, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Never saw an ECHL game, but played at the Richmond Rengades rink. I lived in Reston and played in a local house league but our team got invited to play a similar team in Richmond. I scored a hat trick at the only game I ever played that had a rink announcer, so that was pretty cool, hearing that goal announcement x3.

Beer related: I've been to Bermuda several times and have watched several cricket matches there, actually learning the rules from the friendly Bermudians who kept the Carling's Elephant Beer flowing. It's not the best I've tasted, but if you're looking for high alcoholic content, it's at 7.2%. It probably would have tasted better in a glass.

Posted by: Joe B | August 1, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

@ 94

I wish I was, alas I work at a bank, and can't access my gmail account to email you from it.

@ #94 (way to confuse us guys!)

Yeah, this is my first thing playing at Kettler, I hope to get in an A or AA league after this. I've been away from playing for about 2 years, but I've got my legs back now. I switched from Goalie to skater, but it's been relatively easy, just need to work on my shot.

I'd like to join a team with fellow insider posters/caps message board posters if possible though.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | August 1, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I was in the club seats for the last regular season game last year, and it was amazing. I'm sure it was mostly the fans/game itself, but I'd never thought much of those seats in the past. Been going to games for the last 15 years, and for about half of that we were down in the 6th row, and getting the double glass of the sin bin... it was great when I was little to be so close, but we've since moved up to the second to top row of that section (blue line in the zone we shoot in twice) and I love those seats more than anything. The only part you can't see is at the base of the boards on the close side, and you're still close enough to hear and see it all (...and run down the section to heckle faves like Barnaby and Briere).

Also, @ everyone, thanks for offering your opinions and apparently avoiding work as much as I do. I don't have any friends or family that love hockey/the Caps like I do. I guess I'd always eventually find links to Tarik's articles, but never realized there was such a lively commentator collection, it's been a great discovery this summer! so, Thanks!

Posted by: DCTexan | August 1, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

regarding beer

Mahaffey's Pub in Baltimore is one of the best beer bars i've been to.

Very close to the Canton waterfront, and they change the microbrews they have on tap each week. They also have an extensive supply of bottled beer.

a look at their current selection

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | August 1, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Sombrero, how deep into Canton is that place? I usually don't go further than Canton Station, by the brewery. Food is good, plus we get to shoot pool during lunch.

Posted by: Steve R | August 1, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

@Steve R

Small world. I live very close to Canton Station.

Mahaffey's is like 1 block to the right of Canton Station, and about 10 blocks down. 2 blocks from the Safeway.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | August 1, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse


When I spoke to Ben, I have to send in a request Sept 1st so I will be doing that. Send me an email when you get home and maybe you can hang out with some of us this weekend.

So far, Super and Jschon are definites and I am trying to get Sombrero to come hang out and bring said Sombrero. If you rock the red, you get in half price so I would plan on that.

Posted by: #94 | August 1, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse


I'm pretty iffy. I may be down that way this weekend though and will swing by if I am.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | August 1, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

@ #94

Definites for playing in 3v3 or for a fall league? Hang out where is another question.

I'd drop you an email, but I gotta find that first. I suppose I could get it through Sombrero.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | August 1, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

@94, not sure about Thirsty, J got her chompers out this morning, I may have to tend to her.

My seats are in 430, I love them. I have sat behind the goals before, but dont like the large puck net in my way.

Posted by: TheSuper | August 1, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

You will receive an immediate return email with all the info. Take a look at that and get back to me if you have any questions.

Posted by: #94 | August 1, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Ahhhhhhh I forgot about her. We will just plan on tomorrow then. Should be a great turn out. Alot of people are hitting me up.

Posted by: The one and only #94 | August 1, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I love The Beaver.

Posted by: markfromparkville | August 1, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: The Super and #94 | August 1, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Well, I just got home from a movie and there was a guy there with a Caps sweatshirt on ... yeah! :-)

Regarding where to get seats at the VC, I prefer the side, close to center ice or the goal that we shoot on twice. If that is not an option, then I would rather be behind the net than in the corner. There is just too much that you can't see in the corners. We sit in the lower bowl, high enough to see the game, but low enough to feel and hear it. I dig it.

You're my new best friend!! ;-)

Katie has kindly agreed to connect us via email. If you send an email to her (go to ), she will forward your email address to me; we can coordinate from there.

It is always inappropriate to ask a fan of the female persuasion how old she is, even if you are "mates" :-) Suffice it to say, I am NOT old enough to be your mother ... and that's all that I have to say about that. Poor Super - I pictured him splattered on the ice! But, I must confess, your post did make me laugh - sorry, Super!

Posted by: Boo! | August 1, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse


Super and I had a talk about this but we still can't agreed on an age. But i will drop it. I guess the "voice of reasoning" will remain ageless and faceless :)

Posted by: #94 | August 1, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

10 reason Sundin won't make the HOF:

Do you agree?!?


Good call!! ;-)

Posted by: Boo! | August 2, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse


Don't worry about me, my head is rock solid, and I am pretty tough. I would like to be skating and shooting before too long, I am going to try and get out on the ice today but definitely tomorrow. Kettler actually has great hours for public skate. Coach94 is doing a pretty good job, maybe a CapsInsider team is necessary...

Posted by: Super | August 2, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

So are you learning how to play hockey AND skate, or are you already a good skater?

Posted by: Boo! | August 2, 2008 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I used to skate when I was up in NNY, but it has been a long time, and never really had any formal training, kind of learn as you go. But I am trying to skate well enough to put the pads on and play. I have a ways to go with skating, but as a former college athlete, and a hard work ethic, I think I can get going again pretty quick.

Posted by: Super | August 2, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

@ Super

I'd like to see a Caps Insider team.

Yesterday 3v3 turned into a 5v5 full ice game. That was a huge change, and the first time I've skated a full ice game as a shooter in something like 10 years. Managing shifts was way different from staying out there the whole time making saves.

I was surprised to learn Ben was playing net, I meant to find out about signing up for a fall league, but I ended up being too busy scoring on him.

Posted by: CapsCorndog | August 2, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Well bully for you! I also skated as a kid in the great white north, but am terrible now. I try, but it's not pretty! ;-) Don't get me wrong, I do OK, but if I tried to skate like a hockey player, I would fall down (and not get up as quickly as they do!). I, too, am a former college athlete, but I just can't seem to get my sea (ice?) legs out there. If I could, I actually would love to learn how to play (never would have said that as a kid!). Guess I need to hit the rink and the gym more, huh? It's funny, I can go for years without skiing and I am fine, but when I go for just months without skating I feel like I am starting over again ... hrmpf. Oh well, I will just live vicariously through you. ;-) Congrats on your new adventure!

Posted by: Boo! | August 2, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Picking up where all of the beer discussion left off ...

Just read in the Post that there is a new beer restaurant opening in DC on 14th street in October (just in time for hockey season!). They will have 500 labels, 100 styles and 50 drafts! It will be two floors (each with its own name) and will have a rooftop deck. Oh to be a beer drinker ...


Posted by: Anonymous | August 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Oops! Sorry - that last anon was me.

Posted by: Boo! | August 2, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse


Will they have any hard liquor? Liquor is quicker.

Posted by: Arthur on the Rocks | August 2, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Yipee!!!! I got tickets to the Frozen 4! Happy day.

Posted by: Bob | August 2, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Good morning folks. I'm back from vacation and will be returning to work/blogging tomorrow.

I just left a message for Chris Clark and will post an update on his status as soon as he gets back to me.

Posted by: Tarik | August 3, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse


I have sent my email to Katie. Thank you for your efforts.

Of course I may end up at fewer games this season. My brother buys the tickets and since I criticized his spelling of Olie he says he may not remember to spell my name when he buys tickets. Pick on little brothers for a few measly decades and they get so sensitive.

Posted by: uncatim | August 3, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Welcome back Tarik... Hope you had a great vacation. Looking forward to hear about how Captain Clark is doing.

Posted by: Gavlegirl | August 3, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Where'd everyone go?!?

Another (predictable) review of JT:

Arthur on the Rocks:
I don't know, but I hope so!

Welcome back - in guess you did not notice, we missed you (please - save us from ourselves!!). We look forward to hearing what's up with CCC.

Check your email (and be nice to your little brother! ;-)).

Posted by: Boo! | August 3, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Oops! That would be, in CASE you did not notice ...

Posted by: Boo! | August 3, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Been on the road. Looking forward to hearing about Clark's status.
Won't it be wonderful when JT proves everybody wrong and ends up playing really well?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | August 3, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Been on vacation. My goodness things got crazy around here.

Just saw the videos on the Caps page re: JT. He rocks a Gibson Les Paul, so right away I just know he is going to be cool!

Can't wait to hear how Chris Clark is doing.

BTW, there are a lot of Montreal fans at Virginia Beach. All I can say is they like Ovechkin and do not like the Penguins.

Posted by: Kim | August 3, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand wouldn't it be awful if JT reverts to form and stinks up the ice on a regular basis.

Posted by: Bob | August 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Amen, sister!! :-)

I'm sorry, I can't hear you - you're breaking up ... :-|

Posted by: Boo! | August 3, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

No! He will be the JT my brother temporarily worshiped after Roy's departure from Les Habs (and the Avs). Believe in the Jose! Forget "innocent until proven guilty". Every season should be "Vezina until proven awful".

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | August 3, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

has anyone heard about how aggressive the Caps are going after Gaborik? Yeah it would be nice but we need D help -- who are we offering?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

@9:08 - any source on that other than Eklund? If that's what you're going on, I have some lovely oceanfront property in Nebraska available...

Posted by: Jill | August 4, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

no chance the Caps are going after Gaborik. 7.5 million cap number means we'd have to move 2 players (at least) to make room for him, and Gaborik is a UFA after this season.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | August 4, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Welcome back T-dog.

Hope everyone had a good and Sombrero's right, No way with Gaborik.

Posted by: #94 | August 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

tournament of center ice logos. Caps vs Avs in the first round.

Posted by: Sombrero guy | August 4, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I'd move Nylander, Poti and Semin if we could get a D man in the deal

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Training camp can't get here soon enough.

Posted by: Steve R | August 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Sabres are getting another jersey? How many jerseys have they gone through?

I'm sure someone posted this, but ESPN has us ranked 5th in the East. They say our defense is suspect but we can light it up against any team in the league. But, then again, what does ESPN know about hockey - they had Sid win the Espy award when he didn't even play the whole season. I don't know about you, but I thought it should have gone to Gretzky.

Posted by: 828 | August 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Anyone at the Coldplay concert last night? Apparently there was a bomb threat on the street with Legal Seafood. The whole street was shut down. Awesome concert - but miss hockey. It was just concrete... no ice :(

Posted by: 828 | August 4, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I doubt seriously that JT will be stopping many pucks with his Les Paul. I am optimistic, but I do think the biggest gamble with the Caps this year is in goal. I will enjoy another year of Ovie, but the cost of season tickets is such that I would really appreciate it if they win and win BIG.

Posted by: Bob | August 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse


Im pretty sure the fans vote for ESPY

Posted by: Tommmy | August 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Tommmy, I know the fans vote... Gretzky should have been on the ballot just as much as Crosby - they almost played the same amount of games!

Posted by: 828 | August 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

So then ESPN didnt give Crosby the award.

The fans did

Posted by: Tommmy | August 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I hope JT proves ESPN wrong, he was one of the top 4 bad signings of the offseason

Posted by: Anonymous | August 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

bah, semin is going to take off & be even more incredible. this should be a great season for him and imo his # of goals will keep going up over the next several years.

"I'd move Nylander, Poti and Semin if we could get a D man in the deal"

Posted by: jim* | August 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Tommmmmy, I think 828 was being a little sarcastic.

Posted by: Steve R | August 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

At least have the sarcasm make sense

Posted by: Tommmy | August 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

828, for what it's worth, I got the joke.

Posted by: Steve R | August 4, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

As did I

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | August 4, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Steve R and Sombrero - I try to make at least a few people smile.

When does training camp start and when do you all plan to go up there for the day and drink some beers?

Posted by: 828 | August 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Not sure when it starts, but I will def. be there.

Posted by: Super | August 4, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

And I will be wearing my drinking britches.

Posted by: Super | August 4, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Training camp begins on 9/20, which is a saturday. I am sure more will be announced, like events surrounding camp and so on. I went last year and had a blast, and got to sit in on a Q&A with Ted and Chris Clark. I am sure this year things will be different and I suspect turnout will be a lot higher.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | August 4, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Rookie camp starts 9/13? Not sure if I have a wedding to go to the 13th or the 20th, also same day I have DC United tickets. I'll figure it out, but will go to training camp at least the other Saturday if that makes sense.

Posted by: Steve R | August 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

New post. Alright, well at least I have an idea on when the camp starts. Def want to get there and have some fun with you all.

Posted by: 828 | August 4, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I got the joke

It just wasnt very good

Posted by: Tommmy | August 4, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

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