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Caps working on deal to move Nylander (Updated)

The Caps have confirmed they are working on a deal to send Michael Nylander to the American Hockey League's Grand Rapids Griffins on a standard loan. If the deal is completed, Nylander will come off the team's roster and his $4.875 million cap hit will no longer count against Washington's salary cap figure, according to a league source.

The Caps, however, still will be on the hook for his $5.5 million annual salary this season.

Nylander, who has not suited up for Washington since the playoffs and has not practiced with the team for almost two months, cleared waivers for the second time last week. But the veteran still has control over his any transaction because of the 'no move' clause in his contract.

Moving Nylander could give the Caps enough flexibility to call up a player like Karl Alzner.

Update:A Grand Rapids source told me moments ago that a deal is, in fact, in the works and that it could be completed "soon." Both sides, from the sounds of it, are waiting for paperwork to be finalized.

I'll keep you posted on any further developments.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  December 13, 2009; 6:12 PM ET
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All I want for Christmas is Nylander gone!!!!

Posted by: real8 | December 13, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Ditto !!!

Posted by: JCB9 | December 13, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

large23220 is not holding his breath.

What a punk loser nylander is. Jesus man. Do yr sentance in the KHL like Emery and come back to civilization under a new contract after a year.

Posted by: large23220 | December 13, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Finally, a resolution to an absolutely ridiculous situation. I hope Alzner is up for good, he should be here.

If that is the case, who is the odd man out? Sloan?

Posted by: JSchon | December 13, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

At this point, it would be best for Nylander himself to agree to go to Grand Rapids. It would be his best chance to find another NHL job. Even playing in the minors would give him more practice and be a better showcase for a future deal than sitting out. If he's not practicing with the Caps (and the Caps don't want him around their facility), it's best for everyone that he agree to a deal.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

@Capsyoungguns (from previous threads)

Yes, bad losses bring out the insecurity and paranoia among Caps fans. I'm certainly guilty of it too. I've followed this team too long.

I'd also say that, on the defensive front, Schultz is the least of our worries.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Please note that this is not yet a done deal. Our hopes have been dashed before.

This plan is an indication that the Caps recognize that the chance of a team picking up Nylander is not great if he has been sitting for a long time. So any risk of injury is outweighed by this factor.

This plan is also an indication that the Caps intend to do something with the extra cap room. If so, we all owe Ted our gratitude.

Posted by: zmega | December 13, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse


So who will be the odd man out on Defense? We got more on our roster than we know what to do with.

If Nylander's cap hit is truly gone, then bring up Alzner. After that, maybe Poti should be traded. I don't dislike the guy but he seems like the "logical" guy to go. We're probably paying more for him than we're getting in productivity. (In the asset management department, I'm generally more of a fan of keeping the younger guys who are developing; i.e. Green and Schultz)

Here's who I'd like to see on the blue line: Green, Schultz, Alzner, Jurcina. I'm debating in my mind on who are the best of the rest to keep. Pothier (who's injured) is a good player but he's starting to get up there in age and his contract is expiring after this year. Erskine's our resident "tough guy" of the group. On Morrisonn, I'm debating whether we should keep him or are we better off moving him. He's a comparatively young veteran.

Next year, I hope Carlson is ready.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse


It sounds like a more serious move to remove Nyls' cap hit than we've seen before.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

@CapsFan75 - I'll believe it when GMGM announces it.

Posted by: zmega | December 13, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I am with those of you who are not holding their breath. When it is officially announced then I will be jumping for joy.

Posted by: pkendrick | December 13, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Here's to hoping our long salary cap nightmare will soon be over...

Posted by: dcunitedfan3 | December 13, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I love when people say Nylander is a punk. A punk for what, accepting the pay for a contract he was given? He would love to play, but since the Caps arent interested, he sits at home and collects his checks. Nothing wrong with what he is doing at all. He's not helping his next contract at all, but who cares hes getting 5 mil a year. He WONT get that anywhere else.

Posted by: hardyboys0 | December 13, 2009 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Itsdone per the caps web site. Like christmas in December!!!! Karl pack the car.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 13, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 13, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Thank God this whole sad chapter is over. The Caps posted the official announcement at 7:39 pm on their website. Of course the official announcement has as little details as possible.

Posted by: NovaCath1 | December 13, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

This is a very good potential resolution with the makings of a "win-win." I don't think anyone here put this on the list of possible outcomes. Nylander obviously wants to play and he wants to play in the NHL. Going to the KHL writes him off for the year. Going to the AHL though keeps him under the NHL microscope. He is highly motivated to play and play well. If he plays really well, and as the season progresses, and as it gets closer to the deadline, with the reamining contract balance shrinking, some team may bite. And, really, that is the only way he can ensure his contract for next year, since the Caps if they still have him will option him to Timbuktu.

As I have posted, once March 1st rolls around, the remaining cash payout for the balance of this year and all of next is only $4M.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 13, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

is this a loan like last time where they send him there and he comes back two weeks later?

Posted by: arcassells | December 13, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

This is a nice Christmas present. Our long national nightmare is over.

Posted by: zmega | December 13, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tess2201 | December 13, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's official.

I think I'll have a drink on this.

Let's see...he was on the roster approx 74 days out of I think 193. That's like 38% of $4.875M or about $1.8M used up. The bottom line is he can be replaced instantly by a player or players making what he did, through the end of the year. Or, another example, if half the salary is replaced, $2.4M, through March 1st, you could add a deadline player for the last 40 days at like $7M. That's "in the head math" but should be close.

I just hope it isn't a temporary loan, although anything is better than nothing.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 13, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse


Sounds pretty permanent to me, Tom. The Griffins have announced it on their official site (and sound very happy about it).

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse


This time it's a permanent loan.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

In the near term, whatever salary cap restrictions have prevented the team from playing their best players (e.g., Alzner) are removed. I would think that the team would wait until later in the year to make any major move. At that point, they would have a better selection of available players from other teams (due to teams being out of playoff contention or being unable to re-sign certain players). They would also be better able to judge what area on the team is most in need of shoring up. In other words, injury or player performance issues later in the year would, at least in part, determine what move(s)are made.

Posted by: zmega | December 13, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Yippee. Nylander situation is resolved for this season at least. And thank you Zmega for pointing out that Ted has come through on the remaining salary front. Now with the cap room I so hope we will see Alzner, especially as Pothier is injured. Personally I think Pothier has been playing well, another one of our hiccups from last night's game. As for the Caps paranoia which given our star crossed history I understand and appreciate I am keeping in mind the fact that every elite team we envision possibly facing during the playoffs have all had games they wish they could forget. All teams go through a rough period and frankly I'd be more worried if we coasted through. We need to be challenged and learn how to adjust to different problems. I think the matchups are going to be really interesting as the top three teams in the West and East are really close in points. I do think we have a solid chance of ending the season in first or second in the East with our main challengers being the Devils and/or the Pens. But then again who knows what will happen. The Flyers could get their act together or Gaborik could really push the Rangers forward. Who knows. But we will need to be battle ready because I think the playoffs will be a close contest. BTW I will NEVER root for the xenophobic Canadian team trying to reenact the cold war around our Ovi whether Greenie is on the team or not. I am truly disgusted with the nasty rhetoric coming out of supporters of the Canadians.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 13, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Finally. The only guy on the blue line I would not trade is Green, everyone else is up for grabs at the right price. That being said I would rather see them keep Poti as the only real veteran back there, Schultz even though is very frustrating at times he is still pretty young, and Sloan because he can play up top, I would not start Sloan every night but that versatility is valuable and gives BB and GMGM more flexibility with the roster.

The rest of them it was nice knowing you.

My most preferred trade would be Morrisonn with our lines looking something like these:

Green - Poti
Alzner - Juricna
Schultz - Pothier

Sloan as the spare.

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | December 13, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Now the Caps have more flexibility for making any moves, whether now or at the trading deadline.

Ed Frankovic at "Ed Frankovic's Blog" has detailed possible moves.

My own take.

They can call Alzner if they like. That would be a logical move if Pothier goes on Long Term Injured Reserve (which is a possibility, considering they're saying he could be out anywhere from 1-7 weeks.) I assume they'll have to evaluate BP and see what his condition is before making a decision. He's already missed two games and will certainly miss 3 more. At the very minimum, he's a candidate for injured reserve so a replacement can theoretically can be called up, even though we have more than enough bodies available to dress.

On Sloan. I noticed that Sloan hasn't played since the second period of the Buffalo game. He's also been scratched for both the Carolina and the Toronto games. They didn't even move him from forward to defense when Pothier went out with an injury as is normally the custom.

Is his play so bad that he's to be scratched forever? Or is there an injury situation going on (even though nothing has been announced)? While Sloan may considered the bottom of our D-men in our pecking order, I doubt that his play was so bad in the Buffalo game as to merit being scratched for this long and especially after Pothier's been injured too. (Some people on Japers had suggested that Sloan should have played vs Carolina instead of Oisk so that Oisk could have been fresh for Toronto, who is a physical team.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh and get rid of Erskine too I dont care if he is tough, he is horrible.

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | December 13, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse


I never called Nylander a punk but you cannot absolve him of blame for the fiasco. He made his choices too and I hold him as accountable as the other participants in the seemingly circular Nylander. I heartily hope this is a good resolution for everyone.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 13, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

So who do we trade for?

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | December 13, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse


On your post. On the Olympics, given the current cast of characters on the Canadian (and given their Xenophobia against Ovi), I would be just as happy not to see Green with them.

Maybe the Canadians can loan Green to the Russians and he can change his name for the duration of the Olympics to Mikhail Davidovich Zelenkov. (The Russians need defense, anyhow.) Zelenkov is the Russian last name equivalent to Green. And Green's father is named David; hence, the patronymic Davidovich. (Green's middle name is David, anyhow.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I meant the "seemingly circular Nylander saga". It has definitely been saga length--too long indeed! But I wish him well--just far far away.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 13, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse


RichmondPhil would like us to acquire Anton Volchenkov from the Senators at the trading deadline, assuming his health's okay. (He's been injured.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse


I like that solution. Make Greenie Russian for two weeks. Yes I agree I don't care for his playmates on the Canadian team. Definitely not to be trusted! Also from your post on the last thread good pun on our boy Neuvy. We simply need to be more patient with him. One final thought in my rambling commentary-- at least both Ovi and Backs have vaulted to the top of the NHL individual points--I realize for Ovi it's a bit like "been there done that" but given how fewer games he has played it is remarkable how quickly he has gained points. I would love for our Nicky to get some love though. He really does fly under the radar across the league.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | December 13, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse


While no one is a complete untouchable (and could be moved for the "right" deal, of course, here's what I would do on defense for the rest of this year.

Green - Schultz
Alzner - Juice
Pothier - Morrisonn

Sloan would be our spare. Poti could be traded. (I chose him as a guy to trade due to his relative age.) Unless you'd prefer to trade Morrisonn and keep Poti. I can see merits to that. We could get someone at the trading deadline for one of the slots.

Next year, I figure Carlson could move up to the Caps.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Frankovic makes the point that an enforcer is a near term option. Presumably Nylander's roster spot could go to an enforcer, who would play maybe one-third to one-half of the games. I wish an enforcer was not needed. But we can't assume that the power play will always be operating so efficiently that it is a deterrent to other teams' cheap shots. We don't want Ovi doing the retaliating, although it speaks well for him that he stands up for his teammates.

Posted by: zmega | December 13, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

OK, now that the cap is free, the next limiting factor is roster space of 23. Nylander was one of the 23. Basically you can keep Perreault forever if you want and then you can bring back Gordon when he's able. Or bring back Lang in place of Gordon. But, if you add Alzner, you can only keep one from Perreault, Lang and Gordo. As someone pointed out, if Pothier is out on either LTIR or IR (you now have options with that since you have cap space), Alzner can replace him.

Long term, to keep Alzner, you need a trade.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 13, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse


Green's style fits better with the Russians anyhow.

So I hereby dub him Mikhail Davidovich Zelenkov. Now doesn't that sound like a great name for an offensive defenseman? Nickname: Misha (the Russian equivalent of Mike). Here we go: Misha Zelenkov.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse


Yes, I see the point Frankovich made on getting an enforcer.

Ovi seems to have taken that role. He got his suspension by retaliating on Gleason (Carolina) for a hit the latter made on Backstrom. I also recall that Gleason was downright chippy with Semin in the very last game we played against Carolina (which we lost). (I don't recall anything particular that Kaleta did in the Buffalo game but know he is a comparatively dirty player in general.)

Unfortunately, our power play has been less than awesome as of late. So it would be NO deterrent to cheap shots by the other team. If anything, it would be a greater incentive for them to make a cheap shots. It would provide a short handed scoring opportunity.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

@Tom - Having 9 NHL level d-men (including Alzner) is great for flexibility in case of injury and for competition, but not good in terms of roster space and playing time to maintain consistent performance. Something has to give, especially if the Caps go with the conventional wisdom that they need to bring in a top level d-man at the trade deadline. The forward situation is not much different. It seems to me that they need to package a few people in a trade, maybe for a draft pick.

Posted by: zmega | December 13, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse


On the roster limit. It sounds like Gordon isn't ready to come back any time soon. He hasn't even been at Kettler lately. It sounds like he's been going all around the country looking for treatment on his bad back. With his condition being what it is, I assume Perreault gets the slot that used to be his. Gordon ends up Wally Pipp'ing himself out of a job.

I assume Laing will be back soon. So that's probably one more roster slot.

I'm guessing Pothier has already gone on IR. It would make sense at this point. (We'll probably know by next week if LTIR is to happen.)

And then it will probably be time to trade one of our spare defensemen for draft picks to make room for KA-27.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

In honor of Nylander being assigned to Grand Rapids, here’s the following song by Billy Preston “Will it Go Round in Circles”:

I’ve got a song, I ain’t got no melody
I’ma gonna sing it to my friends
I’ve got a song, I ain’t got no melody
I’ ma gonna sing it to my friends

Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky
Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky

I’ve got a story, ain’t got no moral
Let the bad guy win every once in a while
I’ve got a story, ain’t got no moral
Let the bad guy win every once in a while

Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky
Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky

I’ve got a dance, I ain’t got no steps, no
I’m gonna let the music move me around
I’ve got a dance, I ain’t got no steps
I’m gonna let the music move me around

Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky
Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky

[Instrumental Interlude]

Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky
Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky

I’ve got a song, I ain’t got no melody
I’ma gonna sing it to my friends
I’ve got a song, I ain’t got no melody
I’ ma gonna sing it to my friends

Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky
Will it go round in circles
Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 13, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

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