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Carbonneau out in Montreal

The Canadiens have canned Coach Guy Carbonneau, according to a report on TSN.ca. GM Bob Gainey is reportedly taking over behind the bench.

From Jack Adams Award finalist to the unemployment line in the span of a year. Wow.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  March 9, 2009; 5:35 PM ET
 
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haha. I beat ya to it by a hair Tarik.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 9, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't anyone fire GM's anymore? Poor Guy. He's alegrnd and deserved better. It's not his fault Kovalev is a head case and other members of the team have 'mob ties'.

Posted by: lornemyoung | March 9, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

He couldn't control the younger guys. Team has been melting down for a while.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 9, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, based on the locker room problems seems like this was the right move. Makes his run last year look less impressive and more like catching lightning in a bottle with a hot power play.

Posted by: ThisGuy | March 9, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Aren't Gainey and Carbonneau good friends though? Makes it kind of awkward...

Posted by: richmondphil | March 9, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

How many does that make this year phil?

Posted by: ludeman95 | March 9, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

rags, habs, pens, tampa bay

um....

all i can think of.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 9, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Man, crazy year and it's not over yet.

Posted by: ludeman95 | March 9, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil: Chicago first. Tampa Bay. Pittsburgh. Ottawa. NYR. Now Montreal. Wooooow.

Posted by: kittypawz | March 9, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

so he makes the very important decision to give kovalev a few days off, gets returned with the star player he knew and loved, and he gets fired? i don't get it.

Posted by: jess4caps | March 9, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Gabby better turn this ship around right now, or his butt is next to go.

Posted by: DannyBoy1975 | March 9, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

From the previous post:

@bigred8 & ALL
""The Capitals will likely buy out 36-year-old centre Michael Nylander this summer, which would mean two-thirds of the $8 million US left on the last two years of his deal. That's $5.3 million spread out over four years, or about $1.2 million a season for salary-cap purposes."

Just a FYI, the facts are a little off here. You can validate through the CBA if you like (I already did) but the rules when "buying out a contract" are the following. You take the remaining amount in salary owed and divide that by 2, so the club is still responsible to pay the player 1/2 of the remaining contract in terms of money then the cap hit is calculated over twice the term left in the contract. So in Nylander's case if we buy him out this summer (he is owed 5.5M is salary next year and 3M in 2010-2011) we will have a cap hit of 1/2 of 8.5M which is 4.25M. Then twice the term and since he has 2yrs left then it'll be spread out over 4 yrs so the cap hit is actually 1.0625M per year. If you take it further and look at it this way, you just opened up a roster spot AND you saved yourself 4.5M in cap space next year and 2M the next year. When you look at it like that, how do you NOT cut him? You can do many things with this money, like sign Semin and Backs to their new deals so we can STAY a consistent contender. Like I said I don't see how you DON'T do this.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 9, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Danny,
GMGM is too much of a wimp to do that so soon. If we had any other GM, BB should be worried but until he gets us into a situation as far deep as Hanlon did, I think he's ok. That is GMGM's serious flaw.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | March 9, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

BernieWolfeFan,

That's a good point. Losing four straight games at home really should make any coach worry about his job at this level. It's a disgrace.

Posted by: DannyBoy1975 | March 9, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

LOL! Can you imagine if we lose 5 in row?

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 9, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

We should fire Boudreau if we lose the next two games.

Posted by: DannyBoy1975 | March 9, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Yep and we should cut Theo and bring back Kolzig and Jim Carey too. These are moves that intelligent GM's would make. I know Ken Holland would be all over it.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 9, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

@pokerface1208

I think the cap hit every year is the average over the life of the contract, not the actual amount paid to so-and-so. So if someone is getting $4M this year and $2M next year, the cap hit is $3M in both years.

Posted by: jhamond1 | March 9, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

you guys are forgetting hurricanes. lavi was fired this year too. not a good year to be a coach

Posted by: capsfan387 | March 9, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

@Jhamond1

No the player is actually paid the money over the original term of the contract but the "cap hit" is over twice the term. So in Nylanders case (if we cut him this summer) he'll actually receive 4.25M over 2 years but the cap hit will be 4.25M over 4 yrs. I read it myself off nhl.com after the lock out. I'll find it again and post it on here, it's not hard.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 9, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

pokerface is right. the cap hit for each year is not the average.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 9, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I don't seem to agree too much with coaches being fired instead of players getting dinged for playing horribly. It's like not liking your boss and failing to do your work and blaming it on him instead of taking ownership on your craptastic performance.

You guys with the superior hockey analytical minds have clearly identified problem "employees" and have provided sufficient resolutions to solve some of these problem areas. Can't blame it entirely on Mr. Boudreau.

But of course, some posters will. Oh well.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | March 9, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

also you guys are the disgrace not Bruce. how can you even suggest firing him. we're still atop the standings, we're still doing better then any other caps team in a very very very long time. Bruce has done wonders, and yes it stinks to lose 4 in a row, but at least we have the playoffs to look forward to, we're not fighting to get in, or in by 2 pts with teams on our heals. I love Bruce for what he has done and what he continues to do, the guys listen to him and he doesn;t take BS. Bruce you are the man, even though you said my 500 pacifiers were a waste of money ;) lol

Posted by: capsfan387 | March 9, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

capsfan387:

I think they're being sarcastic and are not really serious about firing Bruce. he's pretty much gotten us to where we are right now, and turned this whole team around from where we were under Hanlon.

Posted by: jogabonito | March 9, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

they better be then, anything other then sarcasm is just ridiculous. Bruce is awesome!

Posted by: capsfan387 | March 9, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Two questions who moved the rock that Cheef was under?? And is Dannyboy the offspring of Cheef?

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | March 9, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow ... can you believe that? Hard to imagine that he not only was an Adams finalist, but that he also went to the ASG this season and BB missed it by that much!

RE: BB being next, please ... BB is safe - mark my words.

Leeguru:
"2. The Steelers have won 6 Super bowls, including this last one. The caps have not yet won any." HA!! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh, another thing about Cheef: He mysteriously dissappears in the evening. So everyone go about your normal blogging. He goes away for good when the Caps win. Notice how he didn't show up until they had a 4 game losing streak? So that's incentive for the boys to do better. In fact,Tarik, can you tell them that the win will help your blog out?

Posted by: Leeguru | March 9, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Boo:

That sort of went along with that Chuck Norris stuff!

Posted by: Leeguru | March 9, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Unless there is some other option (possibly finding someone who would be willing to take Nyl in a trade where we could get some value back) buying him out sounds like the most cost effective option. Lots of pieces are on the chess board the goal is to keep improving our position over the next few years.

Have to say Theo looked pretty good yesterday all things considered. For all the talk about holding them to a low shot total it seemed like Theo had to save our bacon on more than one occasion. I can't really get on his case for any of the goals he allowed either. He looked around the wrong side of Guerin on Gonch's goal but it's not his job to clear out the screeners in front either.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | March 9, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Diurnal:
"active chiefly in the daytime "

"of, relating to, or occurring in the daytime "

"having a daily cycle "

Posted by: austinsteve | March 9, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

it dropped my 2nd webster's example after the second definition

Diurnal:
"active chiefly in the daytime "

"of, relating to, or occurring in the daytime (the city's diurnal noises) "

"having a daily cycle "


Posted by: austinsteve | March 9, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

stay strong hockey lovers.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 9, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Lee:
Caps in the SB, Chuck Norris, red shoes and Mickey Mouse PJs ... what an interesting day!!

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

No one is going to take Nyls in a trade. He stinks. Buy him out and move on.

Posted by: ridgely1 | March 9, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

RE: What happens to Nyls in the offseason and the salary cap and blah blah blah, isn't the CBA about to expire? If so, good luck speculating what's going to happen - all bets are off until that is firmed up! (There may be a lot more that is announced in the coming months than just the traditional increase in the salary cap.)

mauree:
What was said to make you ask the question about 'what if Green had a GF?'?

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Nylander has value to a team that plays a different style. I doubt we'd get stuck paying him off if everyone agreed it wasn't working out. We'd probably share some of his salary at most if he wants to keep playing.

Posted by: austinsteve | March 9, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Just read this on puckdaddy:
"... if Crosby was as flexible with his linemates as he is in aerobics, Satan wouldn't be in the AHL right now."

So Crosby is the reason Satan was put on waivers? What's the scoop with that?

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan1

Too bad you can't grasp accountability.

Demonstrating that you can retain your position/job by FAILING is a terrible thing.
This is not the government.

"If" GM intended to construct a winner and succeeded, then I would not have a beef.

This GM intended on insulating himself for his own job and still does, that's a BUM.

Succeeding by losing is a joke and to give him any credit for BB is misplaced, BB was an accident probably as was GM.

I hated Jagr, but to hire Cassidy to tell the best player in the world what to do was malpractice in other fields.
The reason I bring it up is because, other than what you see now, they won't win a Championship. I guaranty it.

Posted by: Cheef | March 9, 2009 5:48 PM

you assessment is wrong on many levels. but discounting what we agree on, that his performance in the first few years of his tenure was terrible and would have gotten most gm's fired, let me ask you these two questions.

has he constructed a winner now? the team is battling for the top spot in the conference and has a winning record against every decent team in the conference except philly. they may never win a championship, lots of great teams dont. takes some luck along the way. pittsburgh hasnt won one with this regime, neither has philly, montreal, etc. if you say this team cant win one in the next few years, you are the only one.

if gmgm was insulating himself to keep his job, would he have gone along w/ the plan to tear the team apart and rebuild or would he have told ted to keep on as usual. lot of risk in tearing a team apart w/ no guarantee of success. easier to keep doing what you are doing, make the playoffs, maybe win a round or two, etc. dont tell me the whole rebuild was ted's idea.

i love that you think BB was an accident but cassidy was all his doing. shows that your unrequited love for gmgm and the disgraced equipment manager still cloud your judgement.

cant succeed by losing would make a great successory poster on your wall, but it's the reality in sports. see the florida marlins, tampa bay devil rays, lighting, carolina, etc. teams were bad before they got good. its the way of life in sports.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | March 9, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

NYLANDER CLARIFICATION PER THE CBA: section 50.5 iii B (page 206 & on)

I'll just translate in terms of Nylander. His contract is 4 yrs with the 1st 3 paying him 5.5M per yr and the final yr paying him 3M. Our salary cap hit is his total salary divided by the term so his salary cap hit is 4.875M per yr (19.5M over 4yrs). If we buy him out after this year we will owe him 2/3 of 8.5M which is 5.666M in actual dollars that will be paid to him over the next 2 years. Then our new cap hit will be 5.666M over 4yrs or $1,416,525 per year EXCEPT you have to add the difference in "actual" salary and "averaged" salary (for the 1st 2 yrs) to the first buyout year. Since we paid Nyls 5.5M last yr and this yr and our cap hit was only 4.875M then there is a deficit of 1.25M (625,000x2)that we get hit with next year. Bottom line is this, if we buy out Nyls at the end of this year our cap "hit" next year will be $2,666,525 and $1,416,525 for years 2-4. Next years cap savings would be $2,208,475 and 2010-2011 savings would be $3,458,475. The downfall is that in yrs 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 we have a cap hit of $1,416,525 per year that we otherwise wouldn't have if we/he honored the rest of his contract. We do however in the long run save $2,833,050 in actualy dollars and "total" cap space.

I hope that clears it up for everybody.

So to answer the question posed, "would I cut Nyls after this year"? I think the numbers speak for itself. We will save significant cap space and actual dollars for a player who is at best a 3rd line player and is a regular "healthy scratch".

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 9, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

pokerface1208:
Have you been hanging out with JMU?

JMU:
After you graduate, you should change your screen name to CBACapsGirl ... ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

@Boo

they had to make a choice between (if I saw correctly) an SI paper and its swimsuit collection edition. Nicky and Flash had poised answers... Green answered like a hormone loaded 16 years old lol: *eyes getting big* "oh, the girls... w/o any doubt... I mean... come on... did you see the size of those bazookas?" (last part he didn't say explicitly but you could read his mind)

Nothing wrong with that - I think this dude is looking and obviously getting a lot of action :D wonder if a girlfriend would help his hockey side (thus us fans lol)

Posted by: mauree | March 9, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

mauree:
you remember what a gf did for ovi? i vote no ... ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to throw in another point.

Folks are talking around on saving money to sign Semin and Backstrom when both become RFAs after the next season. To me, there's no question who'd be the priority here. No matter how much I like Backy, he is still very much a one-man Ovi's support team. I have no doubt that in a few years he will become much more self-confident player but right now Semin should be at the very top of the RFA-to-sign list. During Ovi's slump early this season (say, the first 14 games), Backy was only 0g+6a. Semin, in turn, has been very consistent throughout the whole season.

So, your choice: Semin or Backstrom?

Posted by: fnralch | March 9, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

fnralch:
That's a choice I'd hate to make. I agree with your points about Semin, but Backs has eyes in the back of his head. His assist to Semin on Sunday was a perfect example of that - he can put on puck on anyone's blade while looking the other direction. And he is the baby of the bunch yet he has already set some records - he has an amazing future ahead of him. So I choose options C - all of the above!! ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

mauree/--Boo--:
how many gf's can 9mil a year buy?

fnralch:
semin has the talent to carry this team - like you stated. one issue with him is actually playing a full season - not major injuries but nagging ones that require time to completely heal and get him back to full strenght. backstrom is another rare talent that i could see becoming one of the greatest assist men the league has every seen. keeping them together (with OV and green) will be an important part of the core of the team for years to come - i hope.
my choice: semin is a slightly higher priority - he has more game changing ability than backs

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 9, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

re: Semin, Backstrom RFA

What are your opinions on what these two are going to get money wise?

Posted by: mauree | March 9, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

mauree/--Boo--:
how many gf's can 9mil a year buy?

i wish to retract this question - as it may lead some to believe that gf's can be bought.
how many gf's can 9mil a year attract?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 9, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

mauree:
that's hard to say because i would bet that they are both candidates for long-term deals which could make their annual #s lower than one might expect (especially at first).

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

@mauree

Semin: $7M/y, Backs: $5M/y. I'm just not sure the salary cap would allow having them both...would love to!!!

Posted by: fnralch | March 9, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

kirk:
I don't think puck bunnies require $$ so it may be a moot point.

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

fnralch:
I would think more like $6m and $4m ... we can squeeze that in, right? ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

mauree:
semin 08/09 4.2m - 09/10 5m
i don't know exactly how it might be structured - but i could see 3 or 4 years with a cap hit between 6.5 and 7 per year
backs 08/09 and 09/10 850k - shorter term, say 3 to 4 years with cap hit of 4.5 to 5.5. some kind of OV lifetime deal could have a cap hit in the 7 to 8 range
good thing i'm not a gm - because with this crowd, i'd never mark my words on this one

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | March 9, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Boo:

Well, Semin is currently #4 (below Malkin, Crosby and Ovi) in P/G (excluding a couple of 2 and 11 games folks). Those tree fellows are to make at least $9M....don't see why Semin'd go for much less. As for Backs, ok, let it be $4.5M. But not a penny less! The boy's worth it.

Posted by: fnralch | March 9, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

kirk:
NEVER?!? Mark your words?

fnralch:
Semin might take less to stay with the Caps, to be on a contending team and to hang with his boy (aka translator) Ovi.

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

i think some postings are the result of people carrying football expectations to the nhl. in football, great teams may win all but a few games in a season.

nhl teams have streaks and droughts for goals and wins. this is an artifact of things like hockey being more complicated and being played more frequently. it happens.

Posted by: am_jim | March 9, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Semin might take less to stay with the Caps, to be on a contending team and to hang with his boy (aka translator) Ovi.

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 9:37 PM

Yep, a good point...but it's about millions... Well, let's wait for about 12 months to see what GMGM's going to do. It's a real headache to try and arrange all the salaries for our super boys. Go Caps.

Posted by: fnralch | March 9, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

fnralch:
Don't worry, I'll talk to 'em ... ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

semin and backstrom for free please.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 9, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Even the Leafs were able to stick with Maurice for two full seasons! Wow!

I will have to make a prediction on which NHL head coach gets fired next.

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | March 9, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

i love all of you. well, most of you.

go caps.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 9, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I've been waiting for Guy to get fired since xmas. The guy flat out lost his team. They weren't responding to his prodding or to his attitude. He was a great player, and watching him for years led me to believe he'd be a great coach; he just didn't ever seem to be a players coach, oddly enough, in a city that seems to demand it.

Here is Florida's TSN ranking for the week. Accuracy of numbers aside, (often, I scoff), we haven't seen the end of Suitcase Steve.
Florida and Carolina are heating up. I know Windjammer seemed to think that playing Florida and The Canes was a gift, but I beg to differ.

FLORIDA PANTHERS:
"Decided to keep Jay Bouwmeester and it's probably the right move as long as the Panthers can get into the postseason. In an underrated move on deadline day, the Panthers reunited puckmoving defenceman Suitcase Steve Eminger (on his fourth team of the season) with his junior coach, Peter DeBoer.
Key Injuries: D Bryan Allen (knee)."

Posted by: oo7 | March 9, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

By the way, its only his 3rd team of the season. Like I said, accuracy aside...

Posted by: oo7 | March 9, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

We'd probably share some of his salary at most if he wants to keep playing.

Posted by: austinsteve | March 9, 2009 8:32 PM

The CBA doesn't allow salary sharing a la Jagr. That was specifically disallowed.

Boo!

The CBA goes through 2012 with a possible 1 year extention that can be exercised by the NHLPA.

Buyouts

The buyout clause (50.9(i)) reads 2/3rds of the remaining contract averaged over 2 times the remaining length of the contract.

Nylander has 2 years remaining on a contract that pays him 4.875 per year (according to NHLSCAP.com) That makes his cash payout $6.5 over 2 years, but the cap hit is 1.625 per year for 4 years.

My numbers don't quite jive with the published, but that could be because of NHLSCAP, or that the Edmonton paper used the wrong number.

Posted by: Greg S. | March 9, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Greg:
Ah! You are right ... I guessed they agreed to extend it in January:

MONTREAL — The NHL Players Association has assured that there will be labor peace for two more seasons, and maybe three, after voting not to exercise its option to terminate the existing collective bargaining agreement after this season.

"We weren't 100% in favor (of this CBA)," said Edmonton Oilers defenseman Sheldon Souray. "But we are 100% in favor of playing."

The NHLPA's decision not to use its CBA reopening privilege extends the deal through the 2010-11 season. The union also has the option of voting to extend it through 2011- 2012.

The NHL owners and players agreed to the current salary cap system in July 2005 after a lockout resulted in the cancellation of the 2004-05 season. Under terms of that deal, the players could have ended the deal on Sept. 15, 2009.

NHLPA executive director Paul Kelly said there are aspects of the deal "that we are not fully satisfied with" but the membership believed strongly that it was best for the game if there was continued labor peace.

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

I guessed? I guess they agreed ...

Posted by: --Boo-- | March 9, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

@Greg
The number 4.875M you're referring to is his actual "cap hit". This number is based off of the entire amount of his deal averaged over the length which is 4yrs (19.5M divided by 4). The contract reads though that he gets paid 5.5M in yrs 1-3 and 3M in yr 4. So it just looks like you're missing the "actual" pay vs. "cap hit" on that site. Since we've paid him 1.25M more than the actual "hit" in the 1st 2 yrs, if we buy him out after this year that difference is added on to his "revised cap hit". Does that make sense?

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 9, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

And Oh so true on the salary sharing part. They might as well have called that the Jagr rule. The only way we could "share" his salary is if we put him on waivers and then somebody picked him up. In this case we'd be on the hook for 50% of his salary over the remainder of the contract. That might even be a nice option, I would think somebody out there would want him at 2.75M and then 1.5M. For us it'd be great because years 1 and 2 would essentially be a wash for us but we wouldn't have a hit at all in yrs 3 & 4.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 9, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see others have taken up the slack in the CBA interpretation department!

Also, I am shocked....shocked! that we get a Chief sighting when the team finally hit a slump.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | March 9, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Boo, Haha, I was actually thinking today what I could change it to. I'll keep it in mind!
Just got back from Raleigh. Few things:
1) I am *so* glad I'm not a Rangers fan. Ugh! They're just sloppy, except Avery, who I just can't seem to hate. The folks sitting behind the Rags penalty box had a sign that said "Reserved for Sean. Enjoy!" And if you think watching JT60 is nerve wracking, try watching Stephen "Rebound" Valiquette. Especially when you've got Ward in the other net to compare to. How it was only 3-0, I have no idea. I could have scored on him.
2) I am *so* glad I'm not a Canes fan. Their in-game entertainment/sound guy/general game atmosphere, well, blows. RBC seems tiny compared to the VC. Although it was "Scott Walker Bobblehead Night". That's right, folks, get excited! Now I've got one to go along with my Ovi.
3) They had a shootout during the 2nd intermission and one of the kids doing it pulled out two sticks, had an American flag in his helmet, and made the goal! I don't think I cheered harder the entire game or that most of the Canes fans got it. It was neat though.
Overall, it wasn't too bad of an experience. The place is nice, but I'm a bit partial. I've never seen so many people get excited over a breakout play. Or so many people being obnoxious and taking their sweet time to sit down while play is going on.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | March 10, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

you can't hate sean avery? oh.

Posted by: richmondphil | March 10, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

CAR, TB, CHI, PIT, NYR, MON, wow a lot for a year 4 of those still in a playoff race, there could be more I just don't remember. I'm kind of suprised they would fire him so late in the year.

Posted by: Osfan092589 | March 10, 2009 12:47 AM | Report abuse

I guess 15 G could be enough time to learn a new system. As for some previous posts regarding Semin's salary, can anybody see him on a team without OV? In a Russian interview he said he hates changing scenery. I think he might take a pay cut.

Posted by: Osfan092589 | March 10, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse

I don't even think it's a pay cut, I mean he's making 4.5M this yr and 5M next. I think that's about right. I bet we sign him to say a 4yr deal w/yrs 1-2 being about 5.5 and yrs 3-4 being about 6. That seems about right. He could probably get 7M in the open market (knowing how the Rangers spend) but I think he'll take 5.5-6 to stay here with us. He's got it good here and he's having fun. Isn't that what it's about though, having fun and winning? I bet we get both Semin and Backs under long term deals and we'll be set for a long long time.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | March 10, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Just a reminder for Caps fans

you can't spell Ovechkin without C-H-O-K-E

yep, Alex is definitely a Cap! keeping up the Washington Capitals tradition, especially against Pittsburgh!

Posted by: puckheaded1 | March 10, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Don't look now - but Carolina is only 9 points back. They've won their last 4 in a row - we've lost our last 4.

Posted by: patrone | March 10, 2009 1:29 AM | Report abuse

Wow, that C-R-Y really got to you uckheaded1

How long has this thread been going? How many hours and upckheaded1 was off trying to come up with a reply before you found it trawling Penguins blogs?

1. We said it first.
2. Try Ovetjkin (see you in a month)

Posted by: austinsteve | March 10, 2009 2:26 AM | Report abuse

Didn't Carbonneau beat out Boudreau for a spot on the Eastern Conference coaching staff?

Posted by: larryn703 | March 10, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

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