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Chris Clark on trade to Blue Jackets: 'I'm shocked'

Chris Clark just told me that he was completely blindsided by this afternoon's trade.

"I'm shocked," the Caps' former captain said. "But then you start looking to the team where you're going. So now I'm trying to put all my energy into who's on the team, how they're doing and where I'll be playing my next game."

The trade, which also included defenseman Milan Jurcina in exchange for the Blue Jackets' Jason Chimera, sent Clark from the Eastern Conference's best team to a club that's fighting to remain in the race in the Western Conference.

"I didn't mind a diminished role [in Washington] because we were winning so much and we're such a great team and had a chance to do something in the playoffs," Clark said. "I would have taken any role on this team to do that. But now I'm going to start all over again. Hopefully Columbus will be in that position in a few years."

"It's going to be tough, but I've been in this situation before," Clark added. "Hopefully I can help out in any way I can."

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  December 28, 2009; 5:00 PM ET
 
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Comments

Poor Clarkie. This is a good trade for the team, but sucks so bad as a player for him. DOH!

Posted by: johnpace2 | December 28, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

See ya, buh-bye!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | December 28, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Clark is not the only shocked person. So are many of the fans. While Clark was expendable due to high cap hit and diminished productivity, I will still miss him.

Juice was dealt to clear the logjam in the D-corps.

Next question. Will Alzner play tonight after all?

Posted by: CapsFan75 | December 28, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Total class act. Thanks for the years Clarkie. Hope he gets more playing time in Columbus.

Posted by: ZMANN84 | December 28, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

poor guy

Posted by: RussianMachineNeverBreaks | December 28, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Feel bad for Clarkie. Why I really feel badly for him is not that he went from the best to the worst team, but that his game has fallen off so much. He is not a good forward anymore. Glad that we are not saddled with his contract. I am sure that Chimera will be a decent role player, which is not what we could say about Clark these past three years.

Posted by: crooks_c | December 28, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm so upset right now... Words cannot...

UGH! Clark I wish you the best of luck! You are still one of my favorite players in the league no matter where you play!

Posted by: Tracy2117 | December 28, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Clark, but that's the name of the game.

Best of luck to Milan and Chris in their future endeavors.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to see Chris Clark leave. It is true that his game has trailed off, but he deserves as much respect as anybody on this Caps team. He has always been a solid role player and a heart and soul guy. In his only completely healthy year in the NHL, he had a solid season and helped the Flames reach the Cup finals. Once he came here, he was a bright spot on a miserable team; and let's not forget this guy put up 30 goals playing on the top line during that time. Not many players anywhere or anytime in this league can say they've scored 30 goals, even if they were playing with the likes of Alex Ovechkin. After injuries hit a couple years ago he never regained his form, but he still was a heart and soul player, a leader and a good captain. Columbus is lucky to have him.

Posted by: CalleJoFan | December 28, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Was this trade solely for cap reasons? What role is Chimera expected to play?

Posted by: baruchgershom | December 28, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I say we trade Chimera. Hasn't lived up to his billing. He's been a Cap for 2 hours and done nothing. No goals, no assists, nought. Trade him I say.

Posted by: TottenhamCaps | December 28, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

What role is Chimera expected to play?

Posted by: baruchgershom | December 28, 2009 5:19 PM |

3/4 line role player..same as Clark.

But yeah, this trade was mostly for cap space/roster spot.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Clark is a good guy with a family, who found out today his team didn't want him anymore. He had done alot of community work and fought back from injuries. Cut him some slack. He's handling this with class. Good luck to him and Milan Jurcina!

Posted by: kcbrichmond | December 28, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

That's crazy, during the game on Sat my wife asked if I thought Clark would be around next year. My response was "Prob not"

Posted by: ludeman95 | December 28, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

That's rough for Clark - emotionally, my heart bleeds for him. He starts at the bottom, and right when he gets to the top, he has to start over with a club in a death spiral.

I think Alzner does play tonight. Has to, Poti and Pothier are both injured and Jurcina goes to the Blue Jackets. Leaves us with 6 healthy D.

Columbus is lucky to get Clark, and Jason Chimera is reportedly a good locker room guy and teammate as well, and can be a pest and drop 'em if he has to plus plays decent hockey. Jurcina replaces Klesla for the Blue Jackets.

Posted by: kittypawz | December 28, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of Clark's role he has alway represented the Capitals with class and stood up for his fellow players (anyone remember his pre-season fight with Andrew Peters where he gave up @ 40lbs?). You don't know what you've got until it's gone. Best of luck to you Chris!

Posted by: FLDave | December 28, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

great move. i am very excited to see what chimera adds and what else gmgm has up his sleeve. i see theo going next...please please!!! my prediction for tonight is that the caps destroy the canes and get a ton of scoring from the 2nd/3rd/4th lines. this will be a shot over the bow that will add a little step to the players who want to stay around. GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: CapsSkins | December 28, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Tough break for Clarkie, but the contract made him expendible as well as the diminished skills. The captain spot will need to be replaced more than anything.

Posted by: tomdchancar | December 28, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Worst part for Clark...if Caps win the Cup...a player needs to play 41 games for that team (or play in the Finals) to have his name inscribed.

Clark played 38 games this year.

As Maxwell Smart would say, "Missed it by THAT much."

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

@Tom

Eh..if I wasn't there for the fight (playoffs), I wouldn't want my name on it.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Good luch Clarkie, sad to see you go. Hopefully the rest of the Caps are not in too much shock and give a good effort tonight. GO CAPS.

Posted by: scropion | December 28, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

kcbrichmond: Not so. Here's the breakdown, by the numbers.

To Columbus: Milan Jurcina (1.375) and Chris Clark (2.6m this year and 2.5 next)
To Washington: Jason Chimera (1.875m, this year and next)

What Columbus gets: An affordable replacement for Klesla, down with a long-term injury, who is UFA at the end of the year, in Milan Jurcina. A 3/4 line checker with some scoring and, most importantly, veteran leadership who has been down at the bottom and knows how to get back. Columbus is in a death spiral right now and they're too young to get out of it on their own.

What Washington gets: A 3/4 line checker with more speed and the ability to drop the gloves, about $2m in cap space, and a roster spot to bring Gordon back into the fold.

Posted by: kittypawz | December 28, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Anton Volchenkov; you are in GMGM's sights.

Now it's time for the Sens to start tanking....

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Good luck Clarkie, your are and were a class act

Posted by: billd2 | December 28, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

We wanted a PK forward, and we got him.

I just wish he could play center.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BobLHead | December 28, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Once Pothier and Poti come back, and there are again, 8 NHL D, another one of these trades can be engineered.

We still have Aucoin and Collins who can come up and serve as part-timers, with Sloan. That's three guys (roster is 23 and you dress 20) who can sit in the press box and NOT complain ("Just happy to be here").

Another move could say be Gordon and Poti for that DEFENSIVE center we want for the 3rd line. Than Stecks go to 4th line where he's most effective. And, adding Chimera, a pest, gives you a dimension the team must have.

We still don't know if he's good defensively though.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

everyone knows Ovie is the leader of this team on the ice, might as well make it official and give him the C.

Posted by: joek443 | December 28, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Chimera: soft player in edmonton but has really developed a wellrounded game under Hitchcock. He gives the Caps more jam on their top 2 lines if thats where he's going to play. He's strong, physical, will fight, and can score. Just the kind of player you want on your top 2 lines especially on a team that has an abundance of skill on their top 2 lines but needs balance. He's an upgrade over Clark in that capacity. I'm not sure what this does to Flash or Laich and how it affects what line they'll play on. Maybe Laich drops down to the 3rd line and centers Fehr and Flash. That would leave BMO centering Chimera and Knuble. Chimera can also play center in addition to LW.


I'll miss Juice. I liked watching him bang bodies effectively. I hope we're still in the market for a nice punishing defenseman. Alzner and Schultz are still works in progress and I'd hate to go into the playoffs with both of them in the active lineup.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Good luck Captain Clark. We really appreciated your years playing with the Caps. I'll always remember how gracious you were to come over to the fans after practice to sign autographs. I wish some of the other so called leaders on the team would take the time and do the same sometime. (OV, Green, Backstrom, Semin).

Posted by: madflava | December 28, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

We still don't know if he's good defensively though.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 5:32 PM |

He's supposed to be able to kill penalties.
*shrug. I hope so.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Chris Clark was and is true pro for this team ...I wish him the best.

Posted by: heathdog1119 | December 28, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Chimera avg's 14:47 per game. His -7 is in line with most forwards on that team. I looked up CBJ on ESPN and it gives avg ice time, but doesn't say PK. Does he play PK? We have a number of decent PK guys, BMo, Laich, Stecks, Gordo, Knuble, but no standouts.

Likely he's more flexible than Clark. Jurcina just plain wasn't needed. He was a regular scratch recently. If we need a d-man called up, Collins can come up as an extra. He was decent last year.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I just wish he could play center.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

hey he won about 65% of his faceoffs this yr. He's getting better at it.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the presser was pretty short, and you can't hear the questions clearly. Here's a snapshot:

"We've had an extra defenseman all year."

"This fit well for team construction."

"We had too many right wings and not enough left wings, and had a defenseman available to make this all happen."

"This was discussed way back in September ... there was a hole we wanted to fill on the left side."

"This was not necessarily about cap space, it was the right move for the team."

"They can have a scrum tomorrow in practice if they want to." (Presumably dismissing a question about whether AO and Chimera will be an issue.)

"Out of respect for Chris," they probably will not name a new captain right away.

Posted by: BobLHead | December 28, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

It's 5:43. If someone is going to wear the "C" tonight, that should be getting sewn into the jersey by now.

Maybe they'll go with three "A's" tonight and figurre it out tomorrow.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1

Chimera can fight??? So can Semin... I have not seen a single fight that Chimera has won. I did see a fight earlier this year where Steve Ott (not an enforcer and 30lbs lighter) abused him. Chimera is NOT a fighter.

Posted by: FLDave | December 28, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I've never really seen much of Chimera other than when we've played Columbus.

Aside from the cap implications of this move (which McPhee is downplaying), if Chimera truly is as fast as advertised, that would be a welcome addition in my mind.

The Caps are big but I've always felt that we are relatively slow, overall. I guess you sacrifice speed to get size but in today's NHL, speed is at a premium.

I felt that the reason we lost that series to Pittsburgh had little to do with Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, etc... It seemed to me that their role players were killing us on the forecheck and beating us to pucks. If we had a little more team speed, I think that series would have been over in 5 games or so.

Posted by: tmac2yao | December 28, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I am now rooting for Anaheim to tank in hopes of acquiring Scott Niedermeyer for a 1 year rental.

It may not be possible but now with our cap room he seems like the perfect fit, especially with his contract expiring.

But this then leads to the questions, is Anaheim willing to trade him? and for how much?

Posted by: sgm3 | December 28, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Well GMGM just said a couple of things that are to be noted I think:
1. This was discussed back in September and came back in the past couple of days
2. This was more a move to fill LW than for additional cap space (not sure I believe that totally)
3. We had too many RW's and not enough LW's.

Interesting. Regardless we have more than enough roster spots and money to do whatever the heck we want at the deadline which is a completely different story than last year.

Posted by: pokerfaceI208 | December 28, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I don't know much about him, but from what the CBJ fans told me, he isn't that good at the position. We'll see I guess. Don't know if he's going to play on our top 2 though, but he's fast enough to skate with Backs/Ovie.

@Tom

He's was one of the top-2 with CBJ to kill penalties, so we'll see how he fits in. I think he's a bit better than some are giving him credit for. At the very least, he is an upgrade from Clark.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

the only hesitation on Chimera is he's been the victim of some pretty heavy hits which has led to him being a bit tentative this year. His hit total is down from previous yrs. I think sometime recently he even got carted off on a stretcher. But before that he was rounding into a nice power forward type. I hooe he can go back to his old playing style between now and the playoffs.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

It's worth mentioning that Chimera's only a 1.875 cap hit through 2011-2012. Another "pro" of the deal.

Posted by: broud0 | December 28, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1

Chimera can fight??? So can Semin... I have not seen a single fight that Chimera has won. I did see a fight earlier this year where Steve Ott (not an enforcer and 30lbs lighter) abused him. Chimera is NOT a fighter.

Posted by: FLDave | December 28, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

he WILL fight. Its a result of him getting involved. Whether he wins or loses is of little consequence to me. He's certainly better than Semin in that category anyway. It isn't like we lost a great fighter in Chris Clark. When did he ever win a fight? The fact that Chimera gets his nose dirty and can play a top 6 role is good enough for me. For ex, he put a nice strong hit on Craig Rivet then fought him right after. Anytime you can get that kind of added bonus play from one of your scoring forwards it adds to your team toughness.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

where are you guys getting your cap space numbers from...ive only got this link (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=WAS) to the hockey buzz but it seems this is off and you guys are quoting different and (i assume)more accurate numbers...

and why would chris borque and other guys that i understand to be in hershey appear to be counting against the cap...is this just the hockey buzz being inaccurate? but even so it did update with the trade pretty quick...im confused...

still trying to figure out the value of player for players in the swap but otherwise i totally get and like the roster and cap space moves...

rock on!!! (with the red of course!!!)

Posted by: deadskin | December 28, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: deadskin | December 28, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

hey i'm just excited that we didn't trade for a 36yo. And Chimera has a little more cache than a Jiri Novotny in my book.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Really liked Clark, however Caps have done and will do fine without him. I was never really too attached to Juice so I'm not all that heartbroken about him leaving.

As for captaincy. I vote to give it to Laich. Works hard, does the little things needed, good leader.

Posted by: elicea | December 28, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1 - A 30 yr old guy who's career high in goals is 17 can hardly be called a "scoring forward."

Posted by: WVPhil | December 28, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Clark and Jurcina are just over $4M combined and Chimera is $1.875M.

Is Chimera the guy who "ran" Ovi earlier on Hitchcock's orders? If so, excellent, let's see him "run" Crosby in the playoffs.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

ovy-backs-semin
chimera-bmo-knuble
flash-laich-fehr
laing-steckel-bradley

basically Chimera and Flash will rotate out in that LW spot I think. Its probably Flash's spot to lose on that 2nd line but things always change. And Flash isn't 100%durable anyway. This move gives us some flexibility on the LW without having to rely on Hershey callups.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

another man handling the front office's uncouth behaviour with tact and grace.

Best of luck, my good sir.

Posted by: j762 | December 28, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

are there any americans left on the Caps?

Posted by: j762 | December 28, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

another man handling the front office's uncouth behaviour with tact and grace.

Posted by: j762 | December 28, 2009 6:10 PM |

lol...

Trades in sports are so rare and are the epitome of "uncouth behaviour". Great insight.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Steckel and Poti.

Posted by: WVPhil | December 28, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

To quote the Sopranos: "We're runnin' a bidness heeah!"

It's always hard to see guys go in trades, but I don't think you can call it "uncouth behavior."

Posted by: WVPhil | December 28, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I live in San Jose, and was wondering how I can find out when and where they're practicing.

Posted by: bmcgraw | December 28, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1 - A 30 yr old guy who's career high in goals is 17 can hardly be called a "scoring forward."

Posted by: WVPhil | December 28, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

it is when you play on a team with the worst centers in hockey.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I live in San Jose, and was wondering how I can find out when and where they're practicing.

Posted by: bmcgraw | December 28, 2009 6:16 PM |

Good question. I am assuming you mean when they go to SJ, and not at Kettler, correct?

I would imagine if you contacted the SJ office, they'd be able to tell you where the visiting team plays. If you mean in DC, they practice @ Kettler. Not sure on the times.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree, this is a business, and trades happen.

But it's disappointing that the management had the gall to blindside their captain with a trade.

And you can't say they've been good about Nylander either.

Posted by: j762 | December 28, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Is Chimera the guy who "ran" Ovi earlier on Hitchcock's orders? If so, excellent, let's see him "run" Crosby in the playoffs.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

unfortunately, Boudreau isn't Hitchcock and as far as my recollection goes under Bruce the Caps agenda has never included targeting another team's skill players. If it was, perhaps Sid wouldn't have been able to tap in so many goals from a foot away in last yr's playoffs.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I want to know if trading Clark has anything to do with the little scuffle he and Green had earlier this season?

Posted by: ovyscaps | December 28, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

And if you have great centers, you shouldbe a goal scoring fiend then right?

Posted by: WVPhil | December 28, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm sad to lose our Captain, bit probably for sentimental reasons. Would be nice to see him having a bigger role on another team, ad hopefully making the playoffs. Liked Juice, at least in the playoffs last year. Wish him the best too.

Only have love for our captain though, and grateful he
is able to handle it so well. Shows a lot of respect.

Btw is it true that chimera is -7? Is it bc of his team, or him?

Posted by: mrszilla | December 28, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty hard to imagine a player whose teammates vote as their Captain to be traded.

Plus, they've both demonstrated they're class acts.

Time will tell how the Cap's players will accept the trade.

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | December 28, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Didn't know if this got posted earlier, from Corey's blog at Wash. Times:
Brooks Laich on Chris Clark
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/in-the-room/2009/dec/28/brooks-laich-on-chris-clark/
""I've said all along our team isn't a one-man leadership -- we do it by committee," Laich said. "We have a lot of young guys who learned from the older guys like [Clark]. He's a great locker room guy, but we have other guys who can do it. We learned how to, almost forcefully, when he was injured. We do it by committee and now someone will have to step up and assume that role." [he said a lot of great things about Clarky, but this seemed of most interest]

Posted by: blackjack65 | December 28, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Just finished leaving some comments on this trade in a previous thread in case anyone gives a crap. They were specifically addressed to RichmondPhil, FLDave and Caravelli.

Now I need to get some dinner before the game starts.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

mrszilla - The best +/- on CBJ of anyone that has played over 20 games is +3. Ouch.

Posted by: WVPhil | December 28, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

From the "for what it is worth" category, ESPN has moved us up in the rankings.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/powerrankings

Also, Gonchar will be available in 2010. Do we go after him again? We need more food for fodder.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | December 28, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, Boudreau isn't Hitchcock".

Now there's a crazy statement. FORTUNATELY, Boudreau is not Hitchcock. What a nightmare it would be to have Hitch as our coach. We would suck just like Columbus while playing sleep inducing dump and chase, bump and grind hockey.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

helloisanyoneoutthere - We don't really know he was voted captain by these guys though do we? He may have just hung on to it because he was captain 5 years ago and was still here.

Posted by: WVPhil | December 28, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Great quote there, blackjack65. Maybe that will help quell some of the talk about Clark leaving a huge void in leadership/morale on our team. He was obviously a big part of the team behind the scenes, but as Laich says, he wasn't the only one. He had the "C" but Laich is making it seem like the "C" doesn't matter because everyone is wearing it.

Boy, don't we have a great hockey team assembled together right now.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Also, Gonchar will be available in 2010. Do we go after him again? We need more food for fodder.

Posted by: CTCapsPhan | December 28, 2009 6:27 PM |

For some reason, I see him remaining a Pen for his career. That or he is going to want to cash in big, and the Caps won't be able to match what other teams could afford.

Will he a take a "first team and 10 years discount"? Doubt it.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

But it's disappointing that the management had the gall to blindside their captain with a trade.

And you can't say they've been good about Nylander either.

Posted by: j762 | December 28, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a McPhee fan but its not normal for an organization to give a player any type of advance warning when it comes to a trade. The last time the Caps consulted a player was when we traded Dale to the Avalanche. And that was totally different circumstances. McPhee wanted to give Hunter a chance to win a Cup and the Caps were rebuilding at the time. That type of courtesy only happens in specific situations. The Montreal Canadiens at one point traded 3 consecutive captains without giving any of them notice. And thats a pretty storied franchise :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Remain detached, Caps fans. Yes, Clark is a consummate professional, and he had one--ONE--good year, points-wise, and that was when the Caps were terrible.

Keep your eye on the prize, and trades such as this are done only the enhance the Caps' chances of winning the Cup. Expect more as we approach the trade deadline.

And, there is clearly only one choice for captain--The Great 8.

Posted by: bella102003 | December 28, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I have stated numerous times that Gonchar was my favorite Cap for a long time. I love the guy, but considering his new fond success in the city we love to hate and the price he could bring in from other clubs, I don't see him coming back home....

Sens need to start flopping. Get Volchenkov, trade Poti, extend Volchenkov to Poti money. :)

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Now I need to get some dinner before the game starts.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 6:25 PM

Speaking of which, we just had tornados of beef tenderloin and Spanish Rioja. Santa Cantabria 2002 Reserva. mrstominfl1 describes this wine as "fantastic."

Rock The Red!

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, Boudreau isn't Hitchcock".

Now there's a crazy statement. FORTUNATELY, Boudreau is not Hitchcock. What a nightmare it would be to have Hitch as our coach. We would suck just like Columbus while playing sleep inducing dump and chase, bump and grind hockey.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

how about "unfortunately for this specific circumstance, Boudreau isn't Hitchcock". Is that better ? I was merely explaining why the whole concept of running another team's skill player(s) is usually propagated by the coach, not an individual player. And Boudreau doesn't coach that way. Unfortunately :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

I agree, this is a business, and trades happen.

But it's disappointing that the management had the gall to blindside their captain with a trade.

And you can't say they've been good about Nylander either.

Posted by: j762 | December 28, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

the "gall"? Excuse me but this is sports and guys get traded all the time. Guess what, they don't typically tell the players involved. That's the way it works and Clark understands that.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 28, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

it is a shame. me and my friend were talking how Clark is getting up there in longest tenured Caps captains.

Posted by: arcassells | December 28, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

why are you guys feeling so bad for clarkie? he has spent the overwhelming majority of the last 4 seasons injured. 32 games played last season, 18 the year before? give me a break. i like clark as much as the next guy, but we need a less injury-prone captain... like possibly brooksie.

Posted by: asdffdsa1 | December 28, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

We would suck just like Columbus while playing sleep inducing dump and chase, bump and grind hockey.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

There's always a place for dump and chase hockey. The Steckel line plays it pretty damn effectively. And you saw Kunitz and company generate scoring chance after scoring chance against our defense in last yr's playoffs when they dumped and chased. Hockey is a bit more complex than simply having every line play the same way. You play to your strengths. And frankly, there are times when our top lines could do a bit more dump and chase hockey. Overhandling the puck and getting it poked away for an odd-man rush...come on we've all seen cases where Ovechkin or Semin try to break the zone only to repeatedly have it easily poked back out.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Will miss them both (especially Jurcina laying the wood on). Best wishes to them with their new team - unless they play the Caps of course. I do feel sad for Clarkie, especially if we go deep into the playoffs (you know what I mean).

Posted by: FloridaCapsFan | December 28, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Edited, from Mission Impossible II:

"Every search for a hero must begin with something that every hero requires; a villain. Therefore, in a search for our hero, [the Stanley Cup], we created a monster Chimera."

Posted by: justbrewit | December 28, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

You never fail to make my jaw drop. There's no way Chimera is gonna be on our top 2 lines. He was not brought in as a top 6 forward. He might have been used as a top 6 forward on a horrible team like Columbus, but we are all set with scoring forwards, thank you very much. None of the ones we have are getting replaced with a guy who's career high in goals is barely over 15.

If I'm wrong about this and Chimera consistently plays on our 2nd line I will eat a hat covered with ketchup.

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OK, really no more time to write. People are asking many of the same questions that were addressed in detail in the previous thread.

Basic summary of this trade is that it makes perfect sense for us. We got rid of a surplus D and a useless pylon (regardless of him wearing a C) and created more cap room. Well done, GMGM, as usual. Hitch and Columbus' GM aren't gonna last much longer because they don't have a clue and are stuck in the past trying to create a team for the pre-lockout era of swamp hockey.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

We could squeeze in Gonchar next year if we moved Poti and abandoned hopes of keeping BMo. But, the year after, with Laich, Alzner and Varly due raises, and Neuvy, and Carlson and Green the year after...I don't think so.

A sideline to this trade today is the odds just increased on keeping BMo.

Given choice - Clarkie or BMo - would anyone here take Clarkie? Really, I don't mean to be cold about it, but BMo brings more to the team.

Speaking of which, what is Poti bringing for $3.5M? Don't mean to be cold about it...

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

“I want to play with Ovechkin,” Malkin said. “We have played together before. … I have also played with Kovalchuk before. We will see what the lines will be. It doesn’t matter who I will play with I will be ready.”

Ovi Malkin Kovy line

Jesus Christ.....

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

hey Randinno, was Chris Clark brought in to play on our top line when he arrived? No, he was the Flames 4th line winger.

I didn't say Chimera was necessarily brought in to play on our 2nd line. I was playing around with line combos. And its not anywhere out of the realm of possibility that he sees ice time on our 2nd line or even PP time. And if/when Flash gets hurt, Chimera will probably be one of the top options along with Laich to replace him on the 2nd line. So, keep dropping that jaw I guess.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Basic summary of this trade is that it makes perfect sense for us. We got rid of a surplus D and a useless pylon (regardless of him wearing a C) and created more cap room
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ridiculous. Calling Clark a useless pylon ignores the contributions he's made this year in front of the net and along the boards.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

If I'm wrong about this and Chimera consistently plays on our 2nd line I will eat a hat covered with ketchup.

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LOL...I want to see this for the sake of seeing this. Doesn't matter who eats the hat covered with ketchup.


Speaking of which, what is Poti bringing for $3.5M? Don't mean to be cold about it...

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 6:42 PM |

The formula is simple. Trade Poti, Trade for Volchenkov, extend Volchenkov to Poti-money, Win Cup.

Not necessarily in that order. Gee, this is easy, I should replace GMGM huh? :)

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Cstanton, actually Clark was brought in as ovies RW. Scored 30 one year.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 28, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Ovi Malkin Kovy line

Jesus Christ.....

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't know..Kovy and Ovy are too similar in what they do. I don't know if they'd complement or conflict with each other. I'm guessing a lot of odd man rushes the other way with that group.

Here's some Chimera vid.

Getting mugged by the Flames and responding well against a tough opponent in Nystrom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6l6kD57OWM


And then 2 injuries this past yr:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDYViRuwFZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHPTXYlDxbk

(you'll notice he can take a hit pretty easily along the boards to make a play)

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I want to also address the "Chimera to second line" comment by cstanton.

My opinion: don't think so. Flash is that person, plain and simple.

Ovi, Semin, Flash, Knuble and Fehr are top 5 forwards. That's makes Chimera the "other 3rd line forward." (But only if Laich is a center.) Although, Chimera might well be a top PK forward. Clearly, though, his scoring touch doesn't match the top 5.

Actually, Chimera, Bradley and Steckel might make a great energy line. And, if Perreault could come back, he, Fehr and Laich make a super 3rd line.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Cstanton, actually Clark was brought in as ovies RW. Scored 30 one year.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | December 28, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

nope, he wasn't brought in to be the top line RW. He was just brought in to add some character and grit, not necessarily any scoring. He fell into that role and stayed there once he carved himself a niche on that line. But Clark was never penciled into the lineup as a top line scoring forward. He was brought in as a Matt Bradley type of player.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Ovi Malkin Kovy line

Jesus Christ.....

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:44 PM


Maybe the only goalie who could stop them.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Kovy and Ovi play similarly. I think all 3 of them would congeal quite nicely...3 fast, big guys with the hands of God.

Actually, when I posted that I thought about how Kovy and Ovi are both right-handed shots and don't do as well from the right wing. That may be a problem for that line.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1

Trust me. As a hockey player I can tell you there is a huge difference between being willing and able. How fired up does your team get when you receive a beating everytime you drop your gloves?

Beat down city is the place Chimera is used to. Let's not turn him into a super hero now that he wears a Caps sweater. He has been a whipping boy for years where fisticuffs are concerned.

"Rockin the Red" will not change the fact that he is a speedy 3rd-4th line mediocre player who get's his a$$ kicked anytime he is stupid enough to drop his gloves.

Posted by: FLDave | December 28, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Actually, Chimera, Bradley and Steckel might make a great energy line. And, if Perreault could come back, he, Fehr and Laich make a super 3rd line.

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Laing is a better option than Chimera is in that capacity. I don't see Laing losing his role on this team to Chimera. Either way, lets see it play out. I'll go on record as saying I expect Chimera to NOT get pigeonholed as simply a checking winger.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

completely shocked.

btw: does anyone else find it weird and a bit disturbing that it is Chimera out of all players? Not quite sure how him and Ovie are going to get along... But they are professionals, so let's hope for the best!

Posted by: Bondra2Ovie | December 28, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

Explanation accepted. However, I would still consider it unfortunate if our coach was in favor of us running opposing team's best players. Just because I don't think that's necessary to win if not to say dirty. Maybe it's just the cultural gap, but I prefer the Russian style of hockey where you beat people with skill rather than intimidation and headhunting.

Same goes for dump and chase hockey. I don't dispute its effectiveness, but I don't like it and find it to be a boring, simplistic way to play the game. I do recognize that our checking lines have to do it, but only because they don't have enough skill to be effective otherwise.

When a whole team plays this way (something that you seem to be in favor of) I find it sleep inducing. As far as Ovechkin and Semin giving the puck away a lot, as I have said the other day (and provided a link) take a look at last years NHL leaders in giveaways. You'll find all the league's best players on it. Why? Because high end skill guys take a lot of chances trying to make things happen x by spending a lot of time on the ice. So yes, naturally that results in a lot of turnovers, but when it works it creates offense. Guys with the skill level of Ovie and Semin are not there to dump the puck in. That's what less skilled players are for. When a coach (Hitch is a good example) doesn't get this concept and expects everyone to play this way you get the results you see in Columbus.

All across the NHL you can see how the results improve as soon as a young coach with modern mentality of aggressive offensive hockey comes in. Teams that play the old, conservative style aren't successful these days, the players look like they're doing hard labor instead of having fun and no one wants to watch them play because they're boring.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

"Rockin the Red" will not change the fact that he is a speedy 3rd-4th line mediocre player who get's his a$$ kicked anytime he is stupid enough to drop his gloves.

Posted by: FLDave | December 28, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

There are many worse fighters than Chimera is out there. And the end result of a fight isn't always the decider of what type of boost it gives a team. I can think of many situations where a team got fired up even though its own player lost a fight. There are other factors involved -- the timing of the fight, whether it was a real mismatch, etc. And Eric Nystrom has developed into a strong middleweight fighter in this league. Chimera didn't exactly get embarrassed in his fight with Nystrom. He laid a strong hit along the boards, got mugged by Nystrom and Primeau, then dropped the gloves and held his own. You think thats an embarassing display? Sure beat watching Semin play Bongos with Staal.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Wow. This is really exciting. GM just sloughed off $2M after finally losing nyls' $4.8M.

$2-3M of this is likely going to sew up Backie, but this economizing streak sure looks like the groundwork for a blockbuster trade. Probably wont happen til closer to deadline time, but it certainly appears strategic.

Of course, I doubt GM and Gabby will opt for a premier defensive option, and will just buy more firepower. The blueline has been the gaping hole, but it has gone wholly unaddressed every time they've made a move.

Posted by: large23220 | December 28, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I'll go on record, that I would like to see a CI poster eat a hat covered in ketchup.

Posted by: richmondphil | December 28, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

hey Randinno, was Chris Clark brought in to play on our top line when he arrived? No, he was the Flames 4th line winger.

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The difference is that we used to suck terribly back then and now we're really good. Also, don't back away from saying that Chimera was brought in to play on our 2nd line. We can all scroll up, you know.

You said that you weren't sure what this will do to Flash and Laich. Obviously he can be used as a top 6 forward if we get a bunch of injuries. That's very different from what you said.

God, you won't let me close the laptop and watch the game, man :)

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

Explanation accepted. However, I would still consider it unfortunate if our coach was in favor of us running opposing team's best players. Just because I don't think that's necessary to win if not to say dirty. Maybe it's just the cultural gap, but I prefer the Russian style of hockey where you beat people with skill rather than intimidation and headhunting.
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don't assume that its dirty or head-hunting. There are plenty of clean legal ways to wear down a skill player. And you'd be foolish not to do whatever you could to win anyway, much less if its 100% legal. Last time I checked, hitting was still part of this game, no? So whats wrong with telling your team to finish its checks hard and with malice every time you get a chance to lay a lick on a Crosby? Seriously, whats wrong with that?

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1

During the fire sale IMHO Gonchar being dumped was the worst move. It reminded me of Larry Murphy being traded because of ignorant Washington fans wanting him to hit like Scott Stevens and fight like Bob Probert. Murphy went on to hoist Stanley Cup and become a HOF player. Shows you what the average Washington fan knows...

I'd love to see Gonchar back in DC.

Posted by: FLDave | December 28, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Clarkie's reaction and comments speak volumes about why he would be desirable in a trade and why the coaches thought he was captain material. Good luck in Columbus! I bet you will help make them a strong contender in the coming years.

...oh, and they also got Juice. The way Jurcina just gets tossed into the news kind of goes to show he's not leaving a gaping hole in our defense corps.

Posted by: hockeyweasel | December 28, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Phil: I abhor ketchup. I'd eat a hat before I'd eat ketchup.

A hat soaked in wine?

Maybe...

Posted by: tominfl1 | December 28, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

hey man i'm tryin to get home from work and you won't let me go either so we're even, haha

"Same goes for dump and chase hockey. I don't dispute its effectiveness, but I don't like it and find it to be a boring, simplistic way to play the game. I do recognize that our checking lines have to do it, but only because they don't have enough skill to be effective otherwise. "

hockey is a game of balance. Which is why you don't have 12 ultraskilled forwards occupying the roster. If your way was truly the only way to win, teams wouldn't employ grinders and checkers. The reason they do is because THAT is the best formula for winning. Always has been, always will be. Which is why when we lose a Bradley or Steckel to injury, we don't automatically call up the most skilled forward in Hershey. We fill roles. Beagle is a better replacement in certain situations than is Perreault.

b a l a n c e

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

@ ctanton1

What contribution? The 4 goals that accidentally bounced off him into the net? Please.

Since you're too lazy to look at the last thread which contains my original statement about this trade I'll copy it for you before I finally get to watching the game (on a slight DVR delay now) which explains why I called him a useless pylon.

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Not super exciting from the perspective of who we got. Looks like a space and salary clearing for later... which might be quite exciting in due time.

A bit sad to see Jurcina go, but couldn't be happier about Clark getting shipped out. Never thought we'd be able to get anyone interested in him. Figures that it was the clueless idiots in Columbus who would take him off our hands. Friedman of HNIC was apparently shocked that Clark was available. He must be joking. I'm more shocked that anyone was interested in him. Clark is a good guy, but as a hockey player he was driving me crazy by just how unbelievably useless he was. Absolutely zero skills. Can't shoot, can't pass, in a constant state of panic, no awareness whatsoever. 75% of the time can't even receive a simple pass on his stick. We have 10 guys in Hershey who are far better than him in every way and way cheaper. He was getting paid way more than he deserves based on just 1 anomalous season when he scored 30 goals on a bad team (still have no idea how he managed to do that).

Anyway, glad to see that once again our management and coaching staff's talent evaluation aligns with my own and I'll make a prediction. This deal will not help Columbus in any way. Their management and coaching staff have just proved once again that they don't have a clue (because they apparently think Clark is good) and will be toast by season's end. Quite possibly soon, in fact.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1

Name one fight that Chimera won without any doubt... You'll be hard pressed.

Game on!!!

Posted by: FLDave | December 28, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

@ ctanton1

What contribution? The 4 goals that accidentally bounced off him into the net? Please.

Since you're too lazy to look at the last thread which contains my original statement about this trade I'll copy it for you before I finally get to watching the game (on a slight DVR delay now) which explains why I called him a useless pylon
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obviously you don't watch what happens away from the play. When a Clark is pushing a defenseman around in the crease or racing in to make a hit to free up a puck, he's creating opportunities for his linemates. He's creating some room for there to be a deflected or ugly goal. Now in my book, an ugly goal counts the same as a pretty goal. Maybe you've been reading a different book.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1

Name one fight that Chimera won without any doubt... You'll be hard pressed.

Game on!!!

Posted by: FLDave | December 28, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse


So first you go on record and state the Chimera loses any fight horribly that he's dumb enough to engage in. Now you've amended that statement to "name any fight that Chimera has won without any doubt"

that's a huge change bro. He's not a great fighter, I never said he was. But he's not this miserably bad fighter that you're making him out to be. Its not his role anyway, he gets involved in the action and thru some physical play he engages in a fight here and there. Why that somehow makes him so terrible in your eyes I have no idea.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

it's not just hockey that is "a game of balance", you can say that about every sport.

you can't win with just a bunch of great wideouts, QBs or RBs in football, you gotta have great lines to win. you can't just win with the Kobes and the MJs in basketball, you gotta have the Dennis Rodmans of the world also to win.

the trade that the Caps made today was a MINOR one, no need to get overly excited about it.

Posted by: joek443 | December 28, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1

What you said about balance is true, but it's because the only way to play hockey you know is the North American way. This can be a long and interesting conversation, but in Russia teams do indeed try to find the 12 best skilled guys they can afford and every line plays the same way. There are no such things as a checking line or an energy line. Often times the players on the 4th line are every bit as skilled as those on the 1st line. The playing time is just distributed based on how well the lines are playing. It's a completely different philosophy of how to play hockey and I personally prefer it. Like I said cultural differences.

You just need to be aware that another way to play the game exists and it's not any less effective. It's just different. I've even mentioned before how it's fascinating to me how different coaches and players in Russia and here perceive the game. It was a long post maybe a month or two ago, but basically in Russia if you keep dumping the puck in the coach will bench you. Same goes for taking too many shots from bad angles instead of passing to a teammate in a better position. So like I said a totally different philosophy.

OK, damn it. I'm gone.

Posted by: ranndino | December 28, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Yes every sport is a game of balance. Randinno unfortunately for him only seems to enjoy watching the top 2 lines of any team play.

On paper the trade is minor but at least you get a strong forward who just turned 30 out of it. And a LW at that. You can also never predict chemistry. Chimera may find some with a center and exceed expectations of him as a scorer.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

You just need to be aware that another way to play the game exists and it's not any less effective. It's just different

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seriously, if the Russian way to play wasn't less effective then why aren't NHL teams employing it ? The reason is, the Russian way to play is NOT more effective within the confines of the NHL. The NHL just cares about winning. And if a team could employ 12 ultraskilled players that don't supply grit and still win, you'd see teams doing it. With the current rink sizes and the current rules, you can't win like that in the NHL. So yeah, it is LESS effective to play the Russian style within the NHL.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 28, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

astanton1 - I agree with you on your assessment of Clark. Too many people see things one dimensionally. Clark's place on the team was not for goal scoring... we have a few others to fill that role. Brads, Stecks, Clark and others earn their keep in other ways. I, for one, am going to miss Clark for his contributions off and on the ice. As for the trade itself, I can understand what McPhee is considering here, but I do have concerns about how it might effect the team from a psych standpoint.

Posted by: gonchpup | December 28, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

He said similar things when traded here.

Posted by: Mike4169 | December 28, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

tough luck for theo.

Posted by: Chad8 | December 28, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Best of luck to Clark and Jurcina.

Posted by: blindskateluke | December 28, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

In professional sports, human beings get exchanged for other human beings often against their will. Didn't we fight a civil war over this very issue?

Posted by: randysbailin | December 28, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Didn't see this one coming but I'm not surprised too much. I think the Cap's brass know this might be the year and are trying to shore up any loose ends they see. Good luck to Chris and Milan. I hope this new guy has half of Clarkie's heart.

Posted by: pacapsfan | December 28, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I feel so bad for Clarkie. He's a great guy. I'm sad to see him go, he's the longest-tenured captain in recent memory. And I liked Milan, too. But we needed a space for Alzner, and it seems an even trade Clark for Chimera. I just didn't expect any movement this soon.

Posted by: farmgirl19C | December 28, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Good luck Clark, sorry how it ended. Life isn't fair. You work hard when Caps are piss poor and help the team to respectability than excellence, then you are tossed away. This is how it ended for Kolzig here in a way. Thanks for all the years of leadership and grit.

Posted by: cirrus_nine | December 29, 2009 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Psst...the Caps are not the East's best team. The Devils are: 55 pts in 37 games, the Caps have 54 in 39...

Posted by: Irishred1998 | December 29, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse

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