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Clark Not Practicing

Chris Clark (strained groin muscle) is not on the ice for practice this morning. It's probably too early to begin speculating about his availability for Friday's game in Jersey, but it's not looking good at the moment. We'll have a better idea tomorrow.

Boyd Gordon, who is week-to-week with an undisclosed injury, also isn't out there. But that's no surprise.

But you know who's back? Quintin "shot blocking machine" Laing. The other day in the dressing room, a veteran player came up to Bruce Boudreau and said something to this effect: "I don't know much about him, but he's a hockey player." That was meant as a major compliment.

Anyway, with Clark out, the forward lines look like this:


The D pairings:


Update:Ovechkin came off about 20 minutes early. Practice is still going, I suspect that he's only taking a rest, since he plays so many hard minutes. I'll check afterward.

Update:Boudreau just skated the players through about 10 minutes of suicides (the width of the ice). I don't recall seeing them skate this hard outside of training camp since I've been covering the team.

Update:Boudreau said Ovechkin is fine.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  December 4, 2007; 10:34 AM ET
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Thanks Tarik.

Happy that Laing is back, he deserves it. Hopefully he'll keep it up.

I wonder how long is the practice taking today, and the reactions of the players to it: do they "believe" ?

Posted by: mauree | December 4, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Practice is pretty intense this morning. but it's not going to be long, because they are going practice again tonight.

Posted by: Tarik | December 4, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

How are the guys adapting to the new system?

Good for Laing, he's played well.

Posted by: Steve R | December 4, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

How cool is that Tarik, watching them practice and being able to go online :D

Anyway it's a long time since I wanted to ask/discuss this: are the players being given directives on what to eat or are they free to eat what they want? Sorry if this is a stupid question... I remember in italian Serie A the players are on a rather rigid diet.

Posted by: mauree | December 4, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Watching practice; Laing doesn't look the least bit out of place. Ovie was out there at the beginning, but left after a few minutes. He looked just fine out there, so I assume he was just given some time off. Tarik, any info on that?

Posted by: George H. | December 4, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Wow, you really have to wonder how different this team would be if Boudreau'd had control during the preseason. If Laing keeps playing D like he does, you could see a Hanlon favorite or two finding the press box much more often. Maybe it wasn't just that BB was a better coach in Hershey, but Hanlon was sending all the wrong people down. Interesting food for thought, no?

Posted by: Mr. Pickles | December 4, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Nice to see Backstrom on the 2nd line with Semin, but is Brooks Laich a center? He has mostly been playing wing; I guess he's there because Gordon is out (for now). The article about special teams is great -- really good news. So far, I'm very impressed with BB as coach because players are pressuring the other team and often outshooting their opponents. I am concerned that the Erksine-Eminger pairing will not work out well because while Erksine is a tough guy, he skates like Happy Gilmore and Eminger can do self-destructive things and go into a spiral of lousy passes, out of position play, etc...

Posted by: JIM | December 4, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Ted's latest posting, (Abe Pollin Day)

Tarik, didn't Ted once have a beef with Mr. Pollin reagrding the inadequate locker room facilities at Verizon Center for the Caps? I remember it was right after a playoff loss to Pittsburgh that he complained about having to share locker rooms with Musicians, etc. I assume its been long resolved...

Posted by: dave | December 4, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Poti out?

That had better be temporary. He's no superstar, but he's head and shoulders above most of the rest of the D men.

Posted by: old time hockey | December 4, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I don't think the D pairings were meant to reflect scratches, since there is no game until Friday. I'm guessing the order they were listed in doesn't mean anything.

Posted by: SM | December 4, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I went to practice for the first time in a couple of months just this past Sunday. It was seriously like watching a different team--it was like they were actually (gasp!) practicing. I like what I have seen of Boudreau so far.

Posted by: SLM | December 4, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I hoping that Boudreau could help bring some spark back into Pettinger's game. He's not the player he was a few seasons ago and I think a new aggressive forchecking scheme will help ignite his game.

Posted by: red dragon | December 4, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Ok, a third of the season through, we have 20 pts with 55 games left and need about 70 more points to be in the top eight. 35 wins is not impossible but is it plausible? BB just might be interviewing for next season because our roster is not indicative of a team that should be dead last in the league. Hopefully Leonsis comprehends this and gives whomever the coach maybe a fighting chance by losing GMGM sooner than later. To think we were in the Cup Finals a decade ago. What a fantasy...

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 4, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

@ BernieWolfeFan

35 wins are possible. There is so much volatility in the Eastern Conference that any team can make a big move and get on a 8 game winning streak. The opposite is true, just take a look at Ottawa. The Caps have to put together two solid 20 game stretches where they go 12-6-2.... which I think they can do

Posted by: red dragon | December 4, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Poti is not out. I just didn't put any order to the D pairings. fixed.

Posted by: Tarik | December 4, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

For the Caps to go on a serious run three things need to happen: (1) Clark and Semin need to get back in the game and play as well as last year; (2) a Right Wing needs to emerge from the current corps of players or traded for; and, (3) the defense has to come together, by not allowing so many odd man breaks and sending the puck up ice responsibly. You might even add that the goalies will have to get on a hot streak, but Kolzig is playing pretty well most nights, given the defensive limitations to this point.

Posted by: JIM | December 4, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Why the heck hasn't OV been signed to a long term extension? Pitt did it with Crosby, why can't we do it with Alex? Are we going to become the Clippers?

Posted by: Phil | December 4, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Where is Fehr? Is Fehr playing in Hershey? Is he sitting at home still?

Please, updates would be terrific right about now with all these other injuries.

Posted by: Fehr??? Where??? | December 4, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse


the players met with a dietician last week. i think they get pointers on what to eat when they aren't with the team. when they are with the team, the meals are prepared for them.

Posted by: Tarik | December 4, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

As for Laich ... I don't think it matters too much if he can play center ... the fourth line is out there to forecheck and create energy and get an occasional scoring chance. Right? I mean, can you see Laich passing to Brash and Bradley for frequent scoring opportunities??

Posted by: Caps fan in TN | December 4, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

suicides are great. that's what i've been hoping for. team should be able to last a whole game and go into overtime w/ juice in the tank.


laich is a center who has been playing wing b/c there are too many centers and not enough wings (gm issue).

laing is a forward not a dman.

Posted by: jim* | December 4, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Tarik. 4-44 in the press box. All is right in the world again.

Posted by: old time hockey | December 4, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Did Olie have to do the suicides as well? In full goalie gear?

Posted by: Stormblue | December 4, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

yes, the goalies did the suicide as well.

i talked to steckel and pothier after the practice, asking if it was a tough practice today:

Steckel - well, thats typicall boudreau

Pothier - was the hardest practice this season

Practice was till 11.45, so 105 minutes. brashear looked done after this for me :->

Posted by: Helge | December 4, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

correction: 75 minutes, not 105

Posted by: Helge | December 4, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Good... glad to hear that 'Club Hanlon' is a thing of the past.

Posted by: SM | December 4, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

@red dragon,
Your two 20 game stretches still only amount to around 76 pts total. We have only 20 now remember? We finished at 70 last season so your saying we need to win the rest outside of the two 20 game stints right? I say this because last seasons 8th spot had 92 pts.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 4, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Playoffs would be nice, but how about these goals first:
1. A winning streak longer than 2 games
2. 6+ 20 goal scorers
3. Above .500 home record
4. At least .500 finish

Posted by: CantMissKid | December 4, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

You are right. We can crunch all da numbus til blue in the face but simple stats like that bring supportive fans. By the way, Toronto went 40-31-11 in '07 and finished 9th, he he, sorry.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 4, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people are looking at last season. Shouldn't we look at this season and how the teams are projecting out? how many points does the 8th seed have now, and how many would that relate to over 82 games. The islanders look like they are in 8th (looking at the standings in todays print Post) with 27 points through 25 games, or 1.08 points per game. At 82 games that would relate to 89 points. The caps are on pace for 61 points (not gonna do it). They need to earn 1.58 points per game to get 90. that is 35 wins and 20 losses over the remainder of their season. It can be done, but is not likely. It's also still very early yet, and anything can happen.

Too much thinking involved with all of that....

Posted by: Lee | December 4, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh my, those suicides were brutal. Maybe Ovie was able to foretell the future and that's why he got off the ice so early :)

Tell me Ovie, how many games will the team win this year? LOL

Posted by: Tom | December 4, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

What Lee said.

We need to be looking at the next team in front of us, not some number that has no bearing on what will play out this season.

Posted by: HolyOlie | December 4, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Cant Miss,

How about we add figuring out how to have good ice in the phone booth

Posted by: Mr. Freeze | December 4, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

You don't think the Caps would consider putting in a claim for Recchi, do you? I sure hope GMGM resists any temptation...

Posted by: Jay | December 4, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

5. Better ice at Verizon
6. Getting all back Healthy

Posted by: CantMissKid | December 4, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Everyone seems to be on GMGM.
If it wern't for GMGM, we wouldn't have the good core of players we have now, or the depth building in Hershey. David Poile wasn't much better. Let's give the GM/Coach combo some more games before we crucify him anymore. It's hard to find the right combo. Let's wait and see.

Posted by: CantMissKid | December 4, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Let's wait and see."

But you see.... the rebuild is over.

Posted by: Tom | December 4, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse


We can slice and dice the stats any way come Sunday and it all comes down to this. Is the team on the ice right now going to get us to the post-season? I'm not convinced that it could.

Let's face it, picking kids (yes, KIDS) and trying to guess what their NHL potential is as a 16, 17 year old is a real crap shoot. They may not be able to handle the bigger kids at the next level. Or the one after that. They may be a career AHL'er, and never break into the NHL.

The GM's job is to see what's in the stable, and to figure out who's performing above the standard for the league the kid's in. Can they make it? If not, trade him.

This is where I think GM has failed. He's made his picks, and he typically sticks with them too long. He's not willing to make a move to deal prospects or players. Unless, of course, the boss-man is telling him to sell the team.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 4, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

What Tom said. Besides, GMGM has had a decade for Teds 5 yr plan. The Jagr/Lang roster with Cassidy?

The thought of Ovie starting his 4th season with no playoff history if he's still here, makes me shake my head.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 4, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

David Poile's team is the one that went to the Cup, gmgm was along for the ride. And how many times did his teams make it to the playoffs compared to gmgm? The one time he didn't make it, he was fired by Dick P. and the experiment continues.
The rebuild = job security for gmgm (COMPLETE JOKE!)

Posted by: someone else who knows | December 4, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

No matter how you look at it or who you blame, the Caps are not a top echelon team but maybe they can be one in 3 to 4 more years.

Until then, the Caps will be one of many fringe team that will struggle to get in the playoffs.

Posted by: WingsFan | December 4, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Could someone explain to me why trading Sutherby for a 2nd round (probable late in the round) pick in the 2009 draft was a good thing?

Posted by: Steve R | December 4, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Update: There will be a practice at 10:30 tomorrow at KCI. The 6 p.m. session (it's just a light skate) at the other location, however, remains closed to the public.

OK, outdoor practice at 6:00pm and it's closed to the public. Where do you think that could be held? HHHHHMMMMMmmmm, Chevy Chase Country Club! Nice job George, how much is the Team or you being paid for that one? Or is this part of your networking tour for future employment? Really, how bad can it get with this guy? Here are the points of what is wrong with this Pony Show!
1) This is the NHL, you have a new coach who is trying to WIN. This time between games should be used for getting the players and the assistant coaches' (gmgm handcuffed BB to) used to his systems. It should also be used to rest and rehab injuries.

2) The night time skate held OUTDOORS with expected winds of 35mph and 33 degrees will be the players 2nd skate of the day. George as Bill Murray once said, "You know, this IS the Cold and Flu season!" Can't wait to see the injury list a couple of days from now. Hopefully the high winds will blow the DEADWOOD out of the Capitals Front Office.

3) It's NOT a Community development or a Public Relations Move. "IT'S CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC!" It's a George McPhee looking for future employment tour!

I have nothing against CCCC, I played there as a kid. Also, the people there are very nice. It comes down to; this is an NHL team TREAT IT LIKE ONE gmgm. Yes I know it was done last year, however looking at their record maybe the team needs more time working and less gimmick moves. What is the plan for the future of this team?

RUMOR MILL: gmgm's next move. I did hear that George is working on selling the team to an ownership group that owns and runs a retirement community down in Florida. I think BB maybe familiar with this story.

Posted by: someone else who knows | December 4, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Steve R
gmgm is probably trying to line up a position with the Ducks when he finally gets canned in Washington. Ted watch your assets!

Posted by: someone else who knows | December 4, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry if this is a very stupid question but... what's wrong with CCCC?

Anyway, on their website they indeed say that the caps will be there tonight. I even found the webcam for their rink :D they're zamboniing right now :D .

Posted by: mauree | December 4, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

@/TO: Mauree:

i think (and i don't mean this as a personal attack) some people just do not like GMGM and will complain about anything the caps do.

Posted by: Lee | December 4, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

The line-up is the best one I've seen in years. This group can can get into the playoffs no problem. Bruce is the real deal. We hit bottom two weeks ago and now we are striving upwards...and fast. Watch out Devils the storm is coming your way-y'all better duck.

Posted by: DarrylHockey | December 4, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse




Just startin' the fire.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 4, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

let it burn DrinkingPartner! I think we could use a gray beard on offense. His experience seems like it could be useful.

Posted by: fullright | December 4, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse


Are you doing any reporting on this boondogle from the plush environs of the Club? Was there dinner and dancing afterward? (I'm sure that it was open bar) Do you think that there are any more local road dates for practice? Like Tucker Road? Or maybe Fort Dupont?

@ others who are still confused about gmgm:

That good and ernerst Hanlon was allowed to start the season, much less continue for as long as he did is clearly the responsibility of gmgm and president Patrick. Jeez Louise, as Tarik reported, Hanlon essentially resigned on Thanksgiving morning. That gmgm and Patrick didn't realize how far lost Hanlon was until the same day that Hanlon did is testament to their poor hockey and business management. I feel badly for Hanlon and the players.

This team should be in the thick of it for the playoffs. They now have to play like every game between now and April is do or die to make the post season. That is a TALL order for a sport with this long of a season. "Heck of a job gmgm! Good work Dick!"

Posted by: Clarendon | December 4, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Hard-nosed greybeard never goes out of style, so a Recchi rental could be interesting. Is this a great time to add a playercoach?

Looking to the long term since the short one's icky, I'd have BB work with (whittle) this DC/PA roster until the break. There'll be a few recchis hitting the wire.

Posted by: redlineblue | December 4, 2007 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Get a grip.... Rechhi will be 40 before the season is over... these guys aren't ready to be taught how to use a rocking chair. Pitt is barely ahead of the Caps and if they can't use him what makes anyone think the Washington can? Sign Rechhi and I too will join the GMGM haters.

Posted by: Dave in DC | December 4, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice on the Caps website that Flash and Schultz will be coaching the Fort Dupont Cannons youth club? I can see Flash doing this. He is showing good signs of improvement and maturity this season and believe he will be a Cap for a few years. The youngsters might learn a thing or two in regards to stick handling and shooting. But Schultz? What is he going to teach them? If anything Schultz should be working somewhere teaching ballroom dancing or ballet....not hockey to youngsters. I can see it now.

Jeff Schultz: Alright kids, this is how you play hockey at 6'5 200 something pounds.

Kids: Are you kidding me? Why aren't you decking the crap out of your opponents. Your not supposed to run from them, you're supposed to attack them.

Schultz: Sorry guys, that's all I know. Michelle Kwan tought me how to play hockey!


Posted by: Mitch | December 4, 2007 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Kristi Yamaguchi taught Bret Hedican to skate.

Posted by: NoName | December 4, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Really, I think this would be seriously welcome. Recchi (I realized only after pressing submit that i misspelled it) is one of the best wings ever to play the game.

Are you all seriously saying that he couldn't teach our boys a few things? Even Ovie and Semin aren't perfect, as awesome as they are.

Besides, Calgary couldn't use Clark, either. He didn't make waivers, but he might as well have. I say take a chance, unless his salary seriously makes him impossible.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 4, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey Tarik maybe you can try and get some confirmation about this. Saw Gordon after practice today and he had his right wrist wrapped up. Any word yet on what exactly his injury is yet or is the team still being tight lipped about it?

Posted by: VA Caps Fan | December 4, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Nearer the deadline, Boudreau and GMGM will package some youth and picks off to fill in the gaps. I hope that means acquiring guys who can contribute for 2-3 years, which aint Mark Recchi.
Armchair GM is wicked easy.

Posted by: redlineblue | December 4, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

So if gmgm picks up Recchi, who sits?

Posted by: Clarendon | December 4, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Flash sits and takes notes from Recchi.

And I certainly don't mean to keep Recchi for more than the year, but he could certainly help out while he's here. And if Recchi actually isn't good enough to keep his spot with the Caps, then we have salary for a year.

And yes, armchair GM is easy. I just want to see a move towards some real change. I think taking the chance on Recchi for at least this year would be a step in the right direction.

Unless, like I said, his contract is ridiculous.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 4, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

The terrorist win when you use an @ before someone's name.

Posted by: kill the @!!! | December 4, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

@kill the @!!!

Well, if only one of the terrorists wins, I'll take my chances.

Posted by: keef | December 4, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Recchi was/is a great player. I am sure he has much to share with some of the younger lads. I'm not saying he is the saviour of our season. He's not gonna score thirty goals for us. But he can definitely teach some of our guys about how to be professionals.

Posted by: pmoravek | December 4, 2007 10:49 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah....I thought the @'s were helping with OV's contract?
We're not doing that anymore?

I'm always outta touch with what the cool kids are doing!

Posted by: pmoravek | December 4, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Caps could pick up a terrorist for cheep near the trade deadline, if only Towel Guy were given GMGM's job.
Barca-GM sez: Building and stocking a talent pipeline is hard enough. Doing it through Jagrrl, a lockout, etc. is harder. Trying to do it Quick is Dumb. So, no big roster moves for 4-6 weeks. And none at all for 1-year guys unless we're in the hunt for the ah, whatchacallem games the other teams talk about so.

Posted by: redlineblue | December 4, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Why not?

If he turns out to be a good pick-up for us, and we're nowhere near the p-word when the deadline comes around, we could probably get something for him.

Does anyone know his salary? i'm much, much too lazy to find it out for myself :-).

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 4, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Okay, good lord.

It's a 1.75 mil contract.

I'm expecting to wake up tomorrow very disappointed because we can very easily afford it, and because he really could be a good teacher for a year.

I'm going to be angry tomorrow.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 4, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Well, not super angry.

He won't make or break the team or anything.

But it's worth a shot, I think.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 4, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

if wanted an older right wing could have gone for bondra. at least he has history here and might draw some some fans. wrecking ball has played for pitt and philly. i don't think joe would be productive here. this is an easy pass.

Posted by: jim* | December 5, 2007 2:06 AM | Report abuse

i think it would be a perfect move for the young cap wings to have a good exp. vet that could teach them alittle about doing the little things in hockey that make playoff teams, not to mention how to play some two way hockey

Posted by: biggamehunter | December 5, 2007 2:15 AM | Report abuse

If the young Caps want to learn about grit and the "right way to play" the need look no farther than their Captain... not only would GMGM be wasting $1M+ on a 39 YO but he'd giving CC the finger.

I agree with Jim, you want a relic? Bring back Bondra... at least he has a marketing upside, not to mention, is the team so desparate that they are sifting through Pengwine cast-offs? The Pengwines? Puh-lease... the team now has the coach to match the parts, let them work and get it done.

Posted by: Dave in DC | December 5, 2007 7:48 AM | Report abuse

I love Bondra (was by far my favorite player growing up), but Recchi's been more successful in his career. We need a Recchi-type on the team, since we already have Ovechkin doing his thing and Semin, when he's healthy and fit, doing damn near the same. Flash needs to learn the support role, especially if he's going to be playing with Semin regularly.

Who better to teach that role? Recchi's got experience playing as Lemieux support and Jagr support, back when Jagr was respectable. He's got a lot to bring.

I still don't see the problem you all have. I know we hate Pittsburghians, but damn, i didn't think it was going to stretch that far. So far that we can't attempt to improve our team with anything they might have used.

Mmm. It's too bad.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | December 5, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Somehow I think Recchi will not be here. Just as Bryzgalov.

Posted by: Finn | December 5, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Ah, the big problem. Bird in hand vs 2 in the bush.

We pick up Recchi now, but who will come up on waivers next week, next month? Maybe a better fit?

As a fellow BarcaGM (I really like that title), I'd take the chance. He would definately be a rental, unless he really shows his stuff. The kiddies on the Caps could learn tons from him. Backstrom especially, flash, petti and the others as well. Use him as a teacher and a mentor. Maybe even move him into coaching after his contract is over.

I'd scarf him up.

Posted by: Greg S. | December 5, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

@ kill the @

You oppose the @ because you hate freedom.

As always, please direct replies to "@ @ kill the @"

Posted by: @ kill the @ | December 5, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

No question Recchi'd add something the Caps could use. But I question the timing: Might it be best for the coach and players to get some momentum, together, before adding a player-coach? I think so.
When a 34 y.o. winger good for some clutch points and clutch PIMs comes round, and BB has helmed 20 games, this BarcaGMs just may sit upright.

Posted by: redlineblue | December 5, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Just because Recchi is potentially available does not mean we should make a stretch to get him. Sure I know, I know, things could not get any worse in the long run but I guess the snow falling here in DC has everyone thinking like we were bottle fed Labatts as mites. Besides, something like that would involve GMGM pushing the buttons and THAT should scare you more than the beltway commute tonight.

What about Sydor being shopped as well? I think getting a 35 year old veteran D for short term is more practical. Jay Leach and Dean Ev would be much happier I'm sure.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | December 5, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Update on today's practice?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 5, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

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