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Collins, Sloan Sent Down

The Caps reassigned defensemen Sean Collins and Tyler Sloan to Hershey today. That could mean some of the injured D-men -- John Erskine, Jeff Schultz and Tom Poti -- are set to return, or getting really close.

We should know more after tomorrow morning's practice.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  January 11, 2009; 3:21 PM ET
 
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1st y'all.

Posted by: acidstrat | January 11, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

i really hope one of them is poti, we are missing that vet presence on the backline

Posted by: minicoop828 | January 11, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Guessing it's Schultz and Erskine, unless there's more to come.

Posted by: Section117 | January 11, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

It feels pretty sad that I'm excited over the prospect of having Schultz and Erskine back in the lineup. ;-)

Posted by: ratgurl46 | January 11, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, I thought Sloan was pretty solid in the last game - of course I admit to liking Sloan too ;) But he is an asset to the team still.

Schultz, I don't mind. Erskine ... er. If you can't say something nice, say nothing. So I'm shutting up.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 11, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Where are we with salary cap issues after these demotions? I know Poti must stay on LTIR so Alzner can play,but a trade or his (#27)demotion has to happen when Poti is ready,n'est pas? Which do the rest of you favor??

Posted by: roccky | January 11, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Not Erskine! *gasps* Okay, sorry. Had to get that out of my system. I think for having little to no NHL experience prior, our call-ups have done admirably. There were a few yeesh moments, but we've had those with everyone. I like Sloan, too, but I honestly don't know if he fits here with the D with have. But I don't hate Collins either, so. My first reasonable wish is Schultz back. My second is Poti. I'd like to see what happens with Erskine back. Unless he's an absolute idiot, he's seen that he's (for the most part) completely replaceable. One thing's for sure, the next three months are going to be *very* interesting!

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm hoping that his time on the injury list has done something to improve Erskine's ability to play hockey like a pro, like it did for Clark. Maybe some time sitting down did him good. It could happen.

We shall see.

Posted by: irockthered | January 11, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion, John Erskine should not be playing hockey on the NHL level. Remember how much better Juice started to play when he didn't have to babysit Erskine?
I know Juice and Alzner didn't have great games the last two games, but in the larger picture, the Caps play better sans Erskine.

Posted by: MFab12 | January 11, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

i don't know exactly how the cap works - but sending collins and sloan down could be so that they don't have to carry their salaries over the all star break. if schultz, erskine and/or poti aren't ready - collins and sloan might be brought right back up - or as we already seen - any combination that works under the cap.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | January 11, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

@jmu_capsgirl: I'm not sure either, but I think that he can play at the NHL level. I do see what you're saying, and can see where he might be used to sweeten a Nylander trade or something.

I dunno. Yeah, we tend to come back with a vengeance, but I'm just hoping that we don't let this drag us down into a second-half collapse. I mean, yeah, we've done well so far, but didn't Ottawa collapse in the second half of last year?

Posted by: kittypawz | January 11, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I think saying that Erskine pulled down Jurcina's play is an insult to Erskine. Jurcina is looking better because he's playing with a defenseman who's better than him. You always do. Jurcina, if anyone, is not an NHL defenseman. His last game was just the latest example in a career long list of mistakes and problems.
Erskine always plays his game, no matter who he's with. If Jurcina needs a sweet talking higher quality d-man to make him play better, that's a problem on him. Not on the guy who he played poorly with.

Posted by: Whitermage | January 11, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Go to the Washington Post's Stats page for the Capitals.
Look at their team stats.
the third person down on the list is...

Slava Kozlov?

W Alexander Ovechkin 41 27 27 54 12 52 7 1 5 265 10.19
C Nicklas Backstrom 43 12 33 45 6 18 8 0 1 94 12.77
LW Slava Kozlov 43 16 24 40 -10 22 7 0 1 85 18.82


I thought this was maybe a mistake on the Web editor's part? But then I saw Victor Kozlov further down the list. Click on Slava's name and then you see his career stats and he is listed for the Thrashers but then in the 2008-2009 stats they have the Caps listed as a team of his, under the 43 games he has played for the Thrashers.

Either someone really screwed up on this one, or there is some foreshadowing going on here.

Just check it out..if you read this, then look and it isnt there, then they fixed the problem..but trust me, its there.

Posted by: rdy4all2000 | January 11, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Here is the whole list


Pos Name GP G A Pts +/- PIM PP SHG GWG S SPct.
LW Alexander Ovechkin 41 27 27 54 12 52 7 1 5 265 10.19
C Nicklas Backstrom 43 12 33 45 6 18 8 0 1 94 12.77
LW Slava Kozlov 43 16 24 40 -10 22 7 0 1 85 18.82
RW Alexander Semin 25 16 20 36 21 31 1 0 3 76 21.05
D Mike Green 30 10 18 28 15 28 8 0 1 98 10.20
C Viktor Kozlov 38 9 18 27 -6 8 2 0 0 85 10.59
C Brooks Laich 43 11 11 22 -3 19 5 0 2 90 12.22
RW Tomas Fleischmann 34 13 7 20 -11 8 5 0 3 70 18.57
C Michael Nylander 41 4 16 20 4 22 2 0 1 55 7.27
C Sergei Fedorov 16 4 8 12 7 16 1 0 0 43 9.30
C Boyd Gordon 38 5 7 12 1 10 0 1 2 42 11.90
C Dave Steckel 40 5 7 12 1 24 0 2 0 61 8.20
D Milan Jurcina 43 3 7 10 -3 38 0 0 1 43 6.98
D Tom Poti 23 3 7 10 6 8 0 0 1 29 10.34
RW Eric Fehr 26 3 6 9 2 12 1 0 1 56 5.36
RW Matt Bradley 43 4 4 8 3 24 0 0 1 65 6.15
D Jeff Schultz 26 0 7 7 4 8 0 0 0 12 0.00
D * Tyler Sloan 26 1 4 5 4 14 0 0 0 8 12.50
D * Karl Alzner 21 1 3 4 5 0 0 0 0 23 4.35
LW Donald Brashear 38 1 3 4 -2 79 0 0 1 26 3.85
RW Chris Clark 28 1 3 4 -4 28 0 0 0 33 3.03
D Sami Lepisto 7 0 4 4 -3 6 0 0 0 7 0.00
D Shaone Morrisonn 37 1 3 4 -1 30 0 0 1 22 4.55
D Bryan Helmer 8 0 3 3 1 2 0 0 0 8 0.00
D * Sean Collins 15 1 1 2 1 12 0 0 0 14 7.14
D John Erskine 19 0 2 2 2 29 0 0 0 16 0.00
C Alexandre Giroux 11 1 1 2 4 6 0 0 1 19 5.26
LW Chris Bourque 6 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 10 10.00
RW Keith Aucoin 3 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 5 0.00
RW * Andrew Gordon 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.00
LW Graham Mink 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.00
LW * Oskar Osala 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.00

Posted by: rdy4all2000 | January 11, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

kittypawz, I'm not really thinking we trade him, what with that salary of his for the next two seasons. He *can* play NHL level, I just would like to see him do it on a more consistent basis. The team obviously sees something in him, otherwise GMGM wouldn't have given him that contract. *Cue George Michaels!* Or we could just go with the thought train from last year and assume he has naked pictures of somebody in his possession. I guess I'm just hoping the time off and the team's success without him pushes him to be better. Proverbial cattle-prod, if you will.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Atl list

Pos Name GP G A Pts +/- PIM PP SHG GWG S SPct.
LW Ilya Kovalchuk 43 16 27 43 -13 29 5 0 2 137 11.68
C Todd White 43 13 28 41 -5 12 8 0 0 75 17.33
C Bryan Little 40 19 13 32 0 12 7 0 3 89 21.35
D Ron Hainsey 43 5 17 22 -18 14 3 0 0 88 5.68
RW Jason Williams 41 7 11 18 -9 8 4 0 2 79 8.86
RW Colby Armstrong 43 12 5 17 -2 53 2 0 2 66 18.18
C Marty Reasoner 43 7 6 13 0 22 0 0 0 67 10.45
C Erik Christensen 29 3 9 12 -8 8 0 0 0 66 4.55
C Jim Slater 42 4 8 12 -3 26 0 0 0 59 6.78
D Niclas Havelid 43 1 10 11 7 30 0 0 0 27 3.70
D Tobias Enstrom 43 1 8 9 5 30 0 0 1 36 2.78
D * Nathan Oystrick 34 3 6 9 -12 17 0 0 0 28 10.71
C Eric Perrin 40 3 6 9 -10 8 1 0 0 62 4.84
D Mathieu Schneider 30 3 5 8 -17 38 1 0 0 56 5.36
LW Eric Boulton 40 2 5 7 -1 102 0 0 0 26 7.69
RW * Joey Crabb 22 3 4 7 -2 28 0 1 1 27 11.11
RW Chris Thorburn 43 3 4 7 -9 50 0 0 0 53 5.66
D Boris Valabik 25 0 5 5 -5 57 0 0 0 10 0.00
D Garnet Exelby 30 0 4 4 -6 49 0 0 0 22 0.00
LW Brett Sterling 3 1 0 1 -2 0 0 0 0 6 16.67
D * Zach Bogosian 9 0 0 0 -3 13 0 0 0 11 0.00
D * Scott Lehman 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -
LW Colin Stuart 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0.00

Posted by: rdy4all2000 | January 11, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Then in the news section is this...


Thrashers acquire Peverley

SUNRISE, Fla. (AP) The Atlanta Thrashers acquired center Rich Peverley on waivers from Nashville on Saturday.

The 26-year-old Peverley had two goals and seven assists in 27 games for the Predators this season. Peverley had five goals and five assists in 33 games as a rookie last season.

Posted by: rdy4all2000 | January 11, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

From Previous

SnowDog-

I'd be interested to see what I said that made you think I was all over Juice's back. Dating back to early last year, I have been a staunch 23 supporter (He's been my favorite pure d-man since we got him) but I will never come on here and try to rose-colored plexi someone's performance. All I said was 23/27 had a horrible night. Find someone here who thinks they played well.

Someone else mentioned Collins having a bad night. I noticed after the 4th goal that neither Collins or Fehr played at all the rest of the night. Team low for minutes on the night were Brash, Clark, Fehr and Collins all hovering between 6 and 8 min. That seems VERY low to me for a defender. Wonder if he was hurt at all.

Posted by: FFSEnough | January 11, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Well, here's my take - novice and all. The SHG and the second by that same guy should have been stopped. The 5 on 3 and 5 on 4 are hung on stupid penalties. Jurcina messed up on the last one and Johnson probably should have gotten it. My final total is that BJ let three goals in and I can live with that. If you watched the game you'll know he made at least 10-12 fantastic saves and kept the team in the game. It's easy enough to blame him but allowing a guy to go the length of the ice on a SHG, and giving them 5 on 3s with stupid penalties is a far greater wrong in the game than Johnson. I've been all over both goalies this season for mediocre play but this one I don't hang on Brent.

I'll call us 12-3 over the last 15. That's fantastic. Let's start another run on Tuesday night.

Posted by: saintex | January 11, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

@saintex: I don't hang that 5-on-3 on anyone but the refs. The Tyler Sloan call was absolute BS - he was nowhere near him. The Backstrom call was questionable but I might accept it, but the Ovi diving call was stupid and so was the hooking call on Sloan.

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Boyd Gordon. I think we need him back, that he brings more to the table than we think about. He's a darn good PK'er, a good faceoff guy (and we're having issues on faceoffs in the last couple of games), and he makes the gutsy plays. Bradley really stepped up in his place to a large extent, but he can't replace him. We need him back.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 11, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I guess Schultz's sore finger is feeling better... And an Erskine return to make our D a little weaker.

Posted by: OviToSemin | January 11, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Bears update:
Bears playing this evening at Wilkes-Barre, trailing 4-2 at the end of 2. Varly in net. Bears goals by Alex Giroux and Kip Brennan.

Posted by: tess2201 | January 11, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I wish it was Poti coming back but very unlikely. I think it's Schultz and Erskine. I like Ersky as a #7, fill-in defensement but not an every night player. As long as he doesn't take bad penalties he's not too much a liability.

Posted by: dsphvywght | January 11, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Bears are losing by a 6 - 2 margin to the Pens farm team. Varlamov in net and he's getting hammered on. Lots of baby Pens power plays and the Bears can't clear their zone.

Posted by: Dougeb | January 11, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

From management: We are going to trade cstanton for a 2nd round draft pick, cut ralCapsFan, and put windjammersouth on waivers.

Posted by: _828 | January 11, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

ugh schultz is awful, at least sexy lumberjack may be back

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Bears final;
Lose 6-2 at Wilkes-Barre. Bears came out strong early but ended up only putting 17 shots on goal. Fatigue may have been a factor...playing their 4th game in 5 days. Wilkes-Barre scored three of theirs on the power play, so penalties were also an issue for the Bears. Giroux's goal extended his goal-scoring streak to 11 games.
Next game Wed at home against Albany.

Posted by: tess2201 | January 11, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

anybody that thinks sloan or collins instead of erskine on D is a downgrade is an idiot

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

we can only hope schultz's "finger" is still out and poti + erskne are back on D

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

_stevo has just been sent to Hershey.

Posted by: _828 | January 11, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

@jmu

come on you are better than that, schultz back?

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

@828
good one

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Re: Varlamov - Even our "20 year old miracle worker" can have a bad night, it seems... looks like Wilkes-Barre/Scranton has found out how to get past him. I'm sorry to see it, but would prefer this to happen to him at the AHL level, rather than seeing it spoil his confidence with the Caps. This is why I've been saying all along that Varlamov should be seasoned with the Bears. A game like this with the Caps, and all of the Negative Nancies on this board would be all over him like woah.

I mean, just look at how much people are pounding Jurcina, and he made ONE critical error. ONE. Sure, he got a penalty in the 1st frame for closing his hand on the puck - but we shut it down. They didn't score on us. Hell, we shut down a worse situation when the guys spaced that there were only supposed to be four men on the ice.

The Backstrom hook at the end of the 2nd period, and the Sloan "hook" at the beginning of the 3rd were what cost us so badly, and the Sloan hook, as many of us have said, was a weak penalty.

And who were the referees last night?

#36 Dean Morton
#21 Don VanMassenhoven

As I recall, VanMassenhoven is not our good friend most of the time...

That said, we can't blame Montreal's ice for anything last night; they have some of the best ice in the NHL. BUT we weren't losing our edge like we do at home. Was the puck a little bouncy? Maybe, but at least we weren't falling all over the place as much.

My personal take on it is that we need to step it up for the next game. Put this one behind us. We'll be OK. :)

We'll be just fine!

Posted by: irockthered | January 11, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

It is sad if you are excited to have Erskine and Schultz back in the lineup. It is sadder if you pin the loss last night on Jurcina. Johnny should have had at least 2 if not 3 of those goals. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. I'm a Theo convert.

Posted by: DCwho | January 11, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

i am excited to have erskine and poti back, and i dont blame jurcina last night. johnson should have made the save

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

@_828

Another of your brilliant posts. Thanks for proving my point.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | January 11, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

its the defense job to not let shots get to the goalie. saying johnson should've stopped it is circular. it does not change the fact jurcina looked like an idiot on the GWG.

did i ever say he needs to be moved down or traded? no. but that doesn't change the fact that he messed up, and needs to be taught to react quicker on plays like that. if you lose control of the puck, you take out the guy. in fact, jurcina should've never been looking at the puck in the first place. you play the body, not the puck.

Posted by: richmondphil | January 11, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

@kitty

I agree with you on the ref calls but the point I'm making is that I won't hand the goalie for those. Add in the first 5-3 goal coming in the closing seconds of that penalty, which allowed the PP to continue, and it's just bad luck. In some respect, it's a mea culpa on the goalies that I've slagged on all season - in this situation, I think Johnson did a helluva job all night fighting off shots that were generated as much by poor circumstances as anything else.

I've happy with our team. Two tough games. Last night almost killed me but they came back from a goal down twice.

As an aside, did anyone notice how uninterested Nyls was in celebrating his goal? He's seems to know he's gone and that's too bad. I don't dislike him.

Posted by: saintex | January 11, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

and to all who have said it...since I'm learning....

Milan should have decked that guy. I wondered as I watched why he was looking down instead of looking at the danger. Now I know - just like my basketball upbringing, you play the man, not the ball. That was rough.

Posted by: saintex | January 11, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

kittypawz, I made a joke about Gordo being the heart, soul, and backbone of the team during the Columbus game. Felt stupid to repeat it after Montreal. Hurt too much, I guess, especially with all those PKs.
_stevo, I said my first reasonable wish. Asking to have Erskine back with his brain in the right order seemed up there with asking for free season tickets on the glass. I know you've got a huge man-crush on him, but your feelings for a guy don't add IQ points or common sense, as any female will tell you. ;-P
Poor Bears. 4 in 5? They do need a few days off. Maybe a medically-induced coma or two.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

ouch, dont bring up the mancrush

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

@jmu
plus you should know not to bring up IQ's with hockey players, i dont think there are any doctors in the nhl

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

ralCapsFan, when you tell me to go build some legos, of course I am going to say something about you. You talk about a Stanley Cup team and cry about the team we have. We lost 2 in a row, big deal... stop crying about it. I am sure Detroit has lost 2 in a row this season. Stop crying... BB will get them right... if not, then we deal... on pace for 112... I guess that is bad, huh?

Posted by: _828 | January 11, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

You know what really sucks about losses like the ones we've had? That the media, especially the Canadian media, will play them up like our victories are flukes. That we've gotten lucky and that we're not as talented as we are. These two losses may well drop-kick us back down to somewhere in the middle of the power rankings. That our spot in the standings is a product of our division (which we haven't played against as much as other teams). I was excited about not being "third-by-default". Being "third-by-default" is pretty much the worst, especially since its pretty much always been the domain of the Southeast winner. Its like the trophies they give little kids now when they participate in absolutely anything. The consolation prize. It blows. And I hate it. And I hate caring about what the media thinks of our boys worse.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

_stevo, Its not like a doctorate is indicative of a high IQ. Plenty of folks with high IQs are biochemical engineers, rocket scientists, and nuclear physicists. :-P

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

For a swede, Nyls was exuberant. Is he mentoring 19 at all? Can you do that while you're being so ineffective?
Nylander worked hard and played hurt. He's good for .75 pts a game down the stretch, if GMGM could just get him a different uniform. Meantime, having the same linemates for 4 periods is worth a try, too.

Posted by: redlineblue | January 11, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

come on now, you know what i meant

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Stevo, I get the impression that you think hockey player aren't too bright. Are you old enough to remember Joe Juneau playing for the Caps in the 90's? He WAS a rocket scientist... had a degree in aeronautical engineering from RPI. Lots of players these days are college grads, so don't assume they're all just dumb jocks.

Posted by: tess2201 | January 11, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

i dont think they are all jocks. i played hockey for 14 years and have a degree in economics and am getting my masters in finance right now, it is a joke and cliche when i said hockey players are dumb. it is tough on message boards to make jokes i guess

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Stevo: Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying.

Posted by: tess2201 | January 11, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

_stevo, of course I knew what you meant, but I haven't used the word indicative in while and it seemed like a good opportunity to use it.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Good ol' D.Stecks has got an international business degree.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

yes juneau was great though

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

indicative, not bad

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Oilers-Blues tied at 0-0 at the end of the first. Just turned it on.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Should've sent Jurcina. He obviously needs the work. Sloan was doing respectably well -- better than Jurcina by a long shot, especially in the past two games.

Posted by: bucknelldad | January 11, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

hey JMU how is old harrisonburg doing?

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

TSN commentators' first half awards:
Calder: Steve Mason, Drew Doughty
Norris: Zdeno Chara, Dan Boyle
Vezina: Mikka Kiprusoff, Tim Thomas, Mason
Hart: Dreger says Ovechkin!, Barnaby agrees "en fuego" , Duthie "No one close"

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

_stevo, Gets better every day I realize I'm one day closer to graduation. Construction everywhere. If I'm back here visiting in a year, it'll be hard to recognize some parts of town. Classes start tomorrow, so all the drunks are back. ;-D

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

haha, i was down for homecoming and really didnt recognize anything. that place across from port was a parking lot now it is a starbucks and "shocker" another tanning place

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Its still a parking lot, its just moved back some. I have to park there to go to class. And I think that and the new shopping centers on the east side of campus put the ratio of students to tanning places in Harrisonburg about 3:1.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I just hope we get rid of erskine, clark, and maybe schutz or morrisonn for a good defensemen and a good draft pick like less then 100th pick but higher then the 50th pick.

Posted by: samrosen8 | January 11, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

ahh some things never change

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Apparently numbers have though. Last I checked, that doesn't diagram very well on a number line.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Or were you talking about the tanning places?

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

well.. both

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Okay, game tied 1-1 halfway through the second. Nobody on the Oilers is screening. Brule scored for the Oil on a deep pass by Potulny. Brule was almost to the blueline a good 5 ft behind the D.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

why cant any of my teams win on sundays? freakin unc

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Should the NHL realign?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3821422

Bolts shopping Lecavalier?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3824467&name=lebrun_pierre

More about the possibility Vinney moving (to Montreal) on video here (on the right side of the page):
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/

Speaking of videos, use that same link to see the TSN panel discuss awards as they see them mid-season (I think someone already mentioned who predicted what, but not sure if they posted the link).

stevo:
Gotta say, I was thinking man crush when I read those comments, too! :-X

Joe:
Awh, come on - you know that you want to give all of your CI pals a great big bear hug!! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 11, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

BTW, regarding mid-season award predictions, it's pretty cool that the only one they all agreed on was Ovie for Hart ... that's our boy! :-D

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 11, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

While we all seem to agree Nylander is the ideal person to move from Washington's stand point. It's unlikely we'll find a proper suitor to take on his contract.

Having said all that .... the person IMO most likely to get moved is ShaMo. He has the most flexible contract and can fit to essentially any system. The arbitration hearing would likely have him leave this off-season anyways, so why not flip him now. When you look at his numbers compared to Schultz, I would honestly take the big fella.

Thoughts?

Posted by: MFepelst | January 11, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Boo, that would have been me. I was watching the Oilers game (they won 2-1) and they were talking about it. They were also talking about Lecavalier to the Habs, for Higgins, Plekanc, Subban, and picks, and that they need to do whatever stat since his NMC kicks in over the summer.

And I agree, stevo: complete and total man-crush on Erskine.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

MFepelst:
with what the caps have available in their farm system - yes i would agree with you. almost 2mil for ShaMo is a bit steep IMO.
they'll never move Nylander and probably shouldn't. at some point he'll come alive and we will all be happy that he is still here.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | January 11, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

@jaammuu

dont pretend like you dont have a crush on erskine, i know how jmu girls operate

Posted by: _stevo | January 11, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

JMU:
I should have known! :-) Yup, that is in the video on tsn.ca.

MFepelst:
Steve R. was saying the same thing about Mo (don't remember if he mentioned Schultz?). It makes sense to me, although it does not make me happy. While none of our Dmen are Norris guys, Mo is one of the best that we've got. But, if it means getting a real, solid S@H vet, then I guess it is the thing to do! I can just think of some other Dmen that I would rather move in his place; they just don't make as much sense when you consider contracts, etc.. Hrmpf.

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 11, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

man-crush, zamboni, man-crush, zamboni ...

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 11, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

_stevo and jmucapsgirl - thanks for bringing up harrisonburg -- good memories.

I'm JMU Grad, 2002. I miss the hell out of h'burg and college.

Posted by: 202-206 | January 11, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

_stevo, Ew. Are my peers really that bad? I'd expect them to swoon over Brooks & Greener. But Erskine? I'm sure there are a few here who would, but I'm not one of them. I'm a Matt Bradley girl. ;-P
Boo-, Haha. Are you insinuating I have nothing better to do than watch TSN? lol. Classes start tomorrow, which means no Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday night and occasional Thursday & Sunday games for me. TGfDVR! I'm expecting some very late nights of hockey. :-D
202-206, I've got some good memories here too, if I could remember them! :-P

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | January 11, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

JMU:
Sorry - was not saying that at all! :-) (If I was, then I guess I would have been saying that about myself, too!) Just meant that you seem to know all things NHL so of course you posted that before I did ... smarty pants. ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | January 12, 2009 7:43 AM | Report abuse

You know, the more I think about the game this weekend (yeah I'm thinking too much) the more I go back to something I said before the Columbus game about I'd like to see us score more like we were at the beginning of the year. I think that was an error, because I did not mean at the expense of our blueline going straight to hell! Given a choice between a solid blueline and winning low-scoring games and lots of scores and losing, I'll take the low-scoring games. I was wrong! I take it back!

Sigh.

I need to just keep my mouth shut. I'm honestly worried about our regular guys coming back, because I really think our blueline got an upgrade out of Hershey and I don't want to see the defense problems we had at the beginning of the year and in the Habs game come back, That'd be bad.

Posted by: kittypawz | January 12, 2009 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Our system, Bruce's system, requires us to play on our the tips of our skates not the heels. We apply so much pressure and deny the other teams offense to set up. We take chances, but we have the players to play this way.

Between the Caps and Hershey, we 57-24-3 with this system. Both teams are in 1st in their division, Hershey has the best record despite having a lot their better players playing for us because of our injuries.

Quite complaining about how we play. Mike Babcock complemented and admired Bruce for his style of play as he watched from the audience seats as he lost the Jack Adams Award to Bruce, and yes Babcock won the Stanley Cup.

Oh BTW, we are 60-30-10 under Bruce with Jurcina, Erskine, Green, Mo, Poti, Schultz, Collins, Lepisto, Sloan, Helmer, Alzner and Eminger on the blueline.

Posted by: JSchon | January 12, 2009 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Jurcina seems to benefit from a change of scenery every so often. When he got to DC two years ago, he was a hitting machine and blasted people all over the rink. He seems to get complacent and soft as he stays longer in one place.

There are players with a history of that. Pierre Larouche comes to mind immediately. His career is an interesting one in that he almost became the first player in NHL history to score 50 goals with 3 different teams, missing by just a few when he was with the NY Rangers. He started in Pittsburgh in the 1970s and his goal totals for each year with Pitt were 31, 50, 29... he had 6 goals when he was traded to Montreal, and he had goal totals there of 23 (6 with Pitt), 9 (was injured), 50, 25, 9 and was then traded to Hartford, where he scored 25 goals in 45 games. He got hurt the next year, left for the Rangers and put up 48 his first year, followed by 24, whereupon he ended up in Hershey of all places...

In recent Caps history, Todd Krygier always had his best periods when he got to a new team...

Posted by: MikeL-Caps91 | January 12, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

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