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Development Camp Schedule

The Caps just announced the schedule for development camp (a.k.a. your mid July hockey fix.)

Here are the details:

Sunday, July 12: Players arrive

Monday, July 13: Group A on ice at 10 a.m.; Group B on ice at 2:30 p.m.

Tuesday, July 14: Group B on ice at 10 a.m.; Group A on ice at 2:30 p.m.

Wednesday, July 15: Group A on ice at 10 a.m.; Group B on ice at 11:15 a.m.; scrimmage from 3:30 - 6:30 p.m.

Thursday, July 16: Group B on ice at 10 a.m.; Group A on ice at 11:15 a.m.; scrimmage from 3:30 - 6:30 p.m.

Friday, July 17: Group A on ice at 10 a.m.; Group B on ice at 11:45 a.m.

Saturday, July 18: Scrimmage from 10 a.m. - 1 p.m.; players depart

Some additional notes from the team's release:

The camp's complete roster is yet to be finalized, but among the confirmed participants are Capitals first-round draft picks Anton Gustafsson (2008), John Carlson (2008) and Joe Finley (2005). Also confirmed are Francois Bouchard (2006 second-round selection) and Mathieu Perreault (2006 sixth-round selection) from the 2009 AHL Calder Cup champion Hershey Bears. The 2009 ECHL Kelly Cup champion South Carolina Stingrays will be represented by Josh Godfrey (2007 second-round selection). Seventh-round selection in 2007 Stefan Della Rovere, who was a member of Canada 's gold-medal winning World Junior Championship team, will also be at development camp. Certain selections from the recently completed 2009 NHL Entry Draft will also attend.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  July 2, 2009; 2:41 PM ET
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Happy happy Joy joy!

Posted by: uncatim | July 2, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Nice. I am stoked to see Gustafsson skate.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 2, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

The part about who might be ready in our system is very informative. Gives us an idea on how the lines might look next year.

If Della Rover makes it for some reason, there is our pesty grit player to go add with Knuble.

Bouchard/Gustavvson are going to give Laich and Nylander a run for that #2 center.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Do you need tickets to see these sessions?

Posted by: graig82 | July 2, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I meant Perault there, not Bouchard.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

This is development camp, not training camp. I'm an idiot. Carry on...

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I think nylander will be our fourth line center at best.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | July 2, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Nyls just doesn't fit in w the Caps. We should trade him to Rangers for one of their D-men. They have a lot of D and need more offense. He could go play alongside Brash. I think Laich will do very well as a second line center.

Posted by: capsfan01 | July 2, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

No tickets. Just walk right in. And it's at Kettler, just in case you didn't know that.

Posted by: tess2201 | July 2, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse


That implies Nylander brings offense.

Kidding, I love Nylander. *cough

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I believe Jake Hauswirth is supposed to attend as well...

Posted by: freeid | July 2, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Gaborik = 5 years 37.5 million. Wait until he goes down and the Rangers will be stuck with that huge contract. Sather could coach; sure can't manage!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | July 2, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if coach B will have the kids doing suicides again like last year

Posted by: superpaqman | July 2, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Let's hope he doesn't break any Swedish backs again this year.

Posted by: thiazzi | July 2, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

nylander should be at the developement camp

Posted by: _stevo | July 2, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I laughed.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Scuderi to the Kings maybe?

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

So what was everyone talking about last post, Kronwall to Calgary? I don't see this anywhere

Posted by: superpaqman | July 2, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

@superpaqman: Someone said it was mentioned on a Swedish newspaper or something about that. Likewise, I didn't find anything online either to confirm this. =/ Sucks if it's true...

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 2, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

hockeybuzz says scuderi to kings

Posted by: doughless | July 2, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

yea that does kind of suck, I would have liked to see if he could have made the big club. If he is gone, can't be too sad considering we got him off waivers so we didn't give anything up and only paid half his salary.

Posted by: superpaqman | July 2, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Kronwall really was not that good - no where near as good as his no big loss if it's true.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | July 2, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Scuds to Kings is offical...something like $3.4 mil a year cap hit.

The Pens would have to expect not to be able to keep everyone...championship runs end up seeing a lot of guys get paid for their efforts.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | July 2, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Off topic a bit but with all the front loaded contracts going out there these days I was curious and didn't know the answer.

Say a player gets 4 years at $14M total but the team is going to pay him $6M for each of the first 3 years and only $2 for the final year.

Does the cap hit each year go down a since there is less to actually pay him?

Posted by: pkendrick | July 2, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

LOL... sorry about the math... I am an idiot

I meant pay $4M the first 3 years and only $2M the last

Posted by: pkendrick | July 2, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

LaCroix better be there!

Posted by: TheOriginalEgon | July 2, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

@ fanohock1

Disagree. Kovalev is a far better offensive player at this point than Fedorov. Montreal was a disaster as a team last season. I think that if we got Kovalev you'd see a player that he was the season before last when he was very, very good. He's also more than just a finesse player. He's very strong and is almost impossible to knock off the puck.

This discussion is most likely pointless because I strongly doubt we could get him, but if it does happen I'm gonna be over the moon.

Opinions may differ, but objectively there are not many players in this UFA crop that are better than Kovalev and they all come with risks. Can Gaborik or Havlat stay healthy? Will Camalleri be able to repeat as an almost a 40-goal scorer? There are no guarantees.

Posted by: ranndino | July 2, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

No, the cap hit for a player doesn't change. Take total compensation and divide by number of years. Since things like bonuses (for most players), option years, voidable years, etc aren't allowed, NHL contracts are fairly simple.

Posted by: koalatek | July 2, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

@ pkendrick

No. The cap hit = the sum of the entire contract divided by the number of seasons, so if a contract is for $15 mil for 3 seasons the cap hit is $5 mil for each of them.

Posted by: ranndino | July 2, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Front-loading helps them in a different way, with the use of retirement. For example (Hossa), The player still gets paid 7.5 mil/yr for the first 8 years,retires, and then the rest of the contract is voided. By extending the contract, they get cap relief. Hossa only gets paid about 7.5 COMBINED in his last years, about the same as he gets paid for each year in the first 8.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the into everybody. I appreciate it. My buddies and I were thinking it was closer to the NFL version.

Posted by: pkendrick | July 2, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

if i remember correctly - no the cap hit is the cap hit for the life of the contract

using an numerically easier example
say you have a contract that is 4yrs for $10mil total = 2.5m cap hit
if yr 1 = $4m, yr 2 = $3m, yr 3 = $2m and yr 4 = $1m
one of the reasons for loading a contract this way is - it becomes easier to 'buy' out of it.
if you wavied this player after 2 yrs - your cap hit would be 2/3 of remaining contract ($2m + $1m * 2/3 = $2m) for twice the length of the remainder of the contract (2yr * 2 = 4yrs). the cap hit for 4yrs of $2m is $500k
another reason (i think this is right) is that if you trade this player the 'new' team only has to take a cap hit on the remainder of the contract.
if the same player is traded after two years - new teams contract for that player would be 2yr for $3m and have a cap hit of $667k

if i got any of this wrong - i'm sure there are plenty of folks out there that will correct me

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | July 2, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Lordy did the Queens overpay for Scuderi. GMs during the free agency period spend like drunken sailors. You just can't set rules against stupidity. The lockout was a total waste

Posted by: tempusfugitrgv | July 2, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Everything's right Kirk.

An example of that will be Nylander next year. (haha) Nyls gets like 5.25 the first 3, and then 3 the last. Making the last year the only viable time to buy him out.

Just want to add though, that, like in the case of Ohlund and Hossa, the "buying out" is replaced with retirement. A better option I guess for the shady GMs, since you dont take the 2/3rd cap hit.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Kings need offense, not more defense.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"would be 2yr for $3m and have a cap hit of $667k"

should have read as:
"would be 2yr for $3m and have a cap hit of $1.5m"

3yrs for $2m would be $667k

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | July 2, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

who cares if the kings overpaid for Scuderi.. he's not with the Pens anymore and that's all that matters.. No Hal Gill or Rob Scuderi, that should get the Caps closer to the Pens.

Posted by: joek443 | July 2, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Just read on hockeybuzz that Kovalev may be headed to Washington.

This was a few hours ago and no word just yet on anything. Interesting indeed since I don't see us having the cap room for him.

Then again it could just be a rumor..

Posted by: towsoncapsfan26 | July 2, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

And barring any real interest in the skill level of any of their players, they're all really irrelevant to me but just saying if we actually cared, who's left besides Malkin, Crosby?

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 2, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

why wouldn't the dmitri k. winger guy be at development camp?? anybody know

Posted by: bryaningrocery | July 2, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't trust hockeybuzz, it'd be like getting world news from Perez Hilton, TMZ or BBC America

Posted by: superpaqman | July 2, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't trust hockeybuzz, it'd be like getting world news from Perez Hilton, TMZ or BBC America

Posted by: superpaqman | July 2, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I hope that's just a rumor...

Posted by: joek443 | July 2, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

There are three hockey writers that I never trust: Al Strachan, Bruce Garrioch and Eklund, the founder of hockeybuzz. About as reliable as the National Enquirer

Posted by: tempusfugitrgv | July 2, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Yea it most likely is I just thought it was interesting. Like I said, no way we can fit him under the cap anyways. And yes hockeybuzz is not a very reliable source at all but we'll see.

Posted by: towsoncapsfan26 | July 2, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

@towsoncapsfan26, via Japers Rink twitter feed:

"The Kovalev rumor is silly. My bet is that if any rumor exists, it was started by Kovalev's agent to try to drive up his price for MTL."

And also:

"Will have update on Alex Kovalev very shortly... I can confirm he is no longer considering Montreal. More in a sec"

Maybe things will heat up tomorrow.

Posted by: BackstromInBlack | July 2, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

But seriously, if the Caps still wanna spend money, they should use it towards a defensive D-man.

Posted by: BackstromInBlack | July 2, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I hear the rumor about Kovalev to Washington, and the main question that pops to my mind: with what for cap space? Looking at, I ran the numbers adding in Chris Bourque up front and Karl Alzner replacing ShaMo in the back, and get a little under $2M in cap space left over if you don't count bonuses. No way is that anywhere close to enough for Kovalev, not even if you ignore the need to have room for injury callups and the trade deadline piggy bank (so to speak). I think whoever said that GMGM was bothered by not being able to move at the deadline and isn't going to make that mistake again hit it on the money. They'll leave a cushion if they possibly can.

I don't think there's anything to the rumors, simply because the math doesn't work.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 2, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I've read some news from Omsk (Russia) today. They said they are looking for 1st line center and Nylander is one of their candidates. It was stated that he COULD arrive to Omsk somethere in November if he will not see much ice-time here in DC.

Can GMGM send them some money for Omsk' management being sure Nylander is bound to press-box? :)

Posted by: Rambutan_ru | July 2, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

@BackstrominBlack: Having run the cap numbers ... I don't think you'll see any more serious money-spending out of the front office this summer. There isn't a lot of cap room left, and what there is needs to be reserved for injury call-ups. It's also good to set some aside if you can against the trade deadline.

We know that the Caps have enough muscle to get them to the playoffs, and probably to get them top seeding. Knuble surely adds punch to that. Don't worry about that. It's in the spring that we have to think and think hard. As I said in my previous post, I think GMGM stands pat from here on out, to see what Hershey's got and what Woods can do for the D. If he still needs a bruising D at the deadline, he'll get it then, because he'll have a much better idea of his true needs then, and his money will be better spent.

Seriously, folks, before you go clamoring to spend like a sailor on shore leave, run the numbers. is a great tool for that - and are other tools out there. Nylander is very unlikely to be moved, and given the goalie talent on the table, I doubt that Theodore will be readily moved either. We will have to give up talent to do a salary dump, and for just one more year on the contract, it probably isn't worth it - besides, he'll have to fight for his slot in training camp just like everyone else.

And if we don't get everything now, don't worry about it. We've got enough punch to get us into the playoffs without too much trouble. By March we'll know what we truly need - why hamstring ourselves then shooting for the moon now? Better to have the flexibility when we know what our needs really are.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 2, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

kittypawz: Yeah, those are good points. I just don't want to see any more opposing forwards in front of our net and/or odd man rushes. GMGM is a smart guy: if he sees something wrong, he'll try to figure it out. After all, trading is

Posted by: BackstromInBlack | July 2, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Kovalev rumor does one thing.

Gives me hope that a trade is coming.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 2, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't trust hockeybuzz, it'd be like getting world news from Perez Hilton, TMZ or BBC America

Posted by: superpaqman | July 2, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I have to say the rumors there have been fairly accurate but generally they are about as good as ESPN. Is ESPN even covering the draft? Reading a story about how Cindy is retiring to adopt babies and grow old with Mario would brighten my day.

Posted by: mrszilla | July 2, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The Caps don't need any more finnesse wingers like Kovalev.. that's the last thing they need.

Posted by: joek443 | July 2, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

@mrszilla: Actually, Cindy and Mario are considering adopting from South Africa. They hear it's what all the famous people are doing these days, so why not them. =)

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 2, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alexanderperlmutter | July 2, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Start again from 0.

Posted by: Section117 | July 2, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alexanderperlmutter | July 2, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

re: @mrszilla: Actually, Cindy and Mario are considering adopting from South Africa. They hear it's what all the famous people are doing these days, so why not them. =)

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | July 2, 2009 6:50 PM

I'm guessing the new adoptee would grow up faster than cindy.

Posted by: uncatim | July 2, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I do believe I am going to scream now.

Guess when I have jury duty?





Posted by: irockthered | July 2, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

If Brooks Laich is our 2nd line center, does that mean the top 2 lines are OV-Backs-Knuble and Flash-Laich-Semin? Then Fehr-Steckel/Nylander-Clark? I think there is going to be a center ice position open for someone to win.

Posted by: dsphvywght | July 2, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Japer's Rink has a good explanation of the possible Nylander to Russia situation and related contract implications:

I also remember reading something this time last year about Nylander's NTC (or is it NMC?) being up on July 1st, 2010 though his contract is through '11. Anyone know anything about that?

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 2, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Re: Nylander to Omsk...

Interesting. I thought I'd read this correctly, and I had.

Avangard Omsk has only two foreign-born players: Jakub Klepiš and Jaromír Jágr. Both are Czech, and one (as we all know) is a former Capital. So, interestingly enough, is the other - something I did NOT know!

(For you trivia buffs, Klepiš played for the Caps from 2005-06 to 2007-08, though he bounced back and forth between Hershey and Washington before moving to HC Slavia Praha mid-season in 2007-08 from Hershey. He then went to Omsk in 2008-09, where he posted the best numbers of his career.)

That still fits Nylander in under the three-foreigners limit the KHL has imposed for the 2009-10 season. And Avangard Omsk appears to be the Home for Wayward Caps Who Don't Work Out(tm)... so there MAY be some truth to the rumor...

Now to debunk it.

1) Michael Nylander has a no-movement clause in his contract. This is not by accident.

2) Michael Nylander is a father of six children, five of whom are in school. One does not uproot one's family and move halfway across the globe on a whim.

As a parent, given a choice between a boring job I KNOW will pay me $5.5 million per year for the next three years, $3.0 million in four years, versus a job that MIGHT pay me more, I'm going to keep the boring job for the stability of my family.

3) It's true that Michael Nylander's brother, Peter Nylander, is playing in the Russian league, for Amur Khabarovsk. Unfortunately, Khabarovsk is about 2500 miles from Omsk, so going to the Russian league to play with his brother is not really a good reason. (Also, Khabarovsk is over the 3-foreign-born players limit, with an American, two Canadians, a Swede (Peter Nylander), and a Latvian on the roster, which eliminates Nylander (Michael) going to play for them. This is not that there are any rumors that direction at all, just saying!)

It's completely not practical for Michael Nylander to move to Russia, in the middle of the school year, and either A) leave his children and wife behind in the USA while he goes and plays hockey for a team where nobody whatsoever speaks his language, or B) drag them with him to a place where nobody speaks their language.

Sorry, folks. I just don't see this happening.

Posted by: irockthered | July 2, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

It expires in 2010.

One thing that I have learned over the years is to never say never when it comes to the NHL ... stranger things have happened than Nyls going to Omsk, NMC or not.

RE: Folks saying that the cap prohibits Kovalev from coming to DC, keep in mind that GMGM said he would exceed the cap for the right deal and he could still be working to offload another player (or two or ...). In other words, if McPhee wants Kovalev, he will find a way to make it happen.

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 2, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

BTW, Nyls has an NMC (not an NTC).

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 2, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

@--Boo-- I didn't say it was impossible... just extremely improbable. Sherlock Holmes knows all about improbable, but I won't buy it hook, line and sinker until I've seen the ink dried on the paper. You have got to admit that pulling up roots for a family of EIGHT (him, his wife, their six children) and moving halfway around the world is highly improbable for a guy with an NMC who would likely have been traded long before now if he'd waived it!

Posted by: irockthered | July 3, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

A note about RFAs- I am surprised that none of the media have commented on the lack of offer sheets being tendered to other teams RFAs. Ever since the Edmonton/Buffalo debacle a few years ago, it seems that GMs are skittish - or they've made a pact amongst themselves - and are not trying to swipe other teams's RFAs. How come that hasn't attracted any attention or commentary?

Posted by: DevilsCapsGal | July 3, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

@ Boo...

Thanks for the clarification. The fact that Nylander's NMC expires after the upcoming season will give GMGM the chance to move him next July 1st provided he can produce during the season. So, the Caps will be best served by giving him every opportunity to regain form. Hopefully, he and Boudreau can come to a meeting of the minds, and whatever lingering injury issues that affected him this past year will be history. Otherwise, I'm afraid he's ours for the duration of his deal.

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | July 3, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

LEt see if Finley is worthy of that '05 1st pick status.
Can he be the crease clearer??

In house development always yield the biggest bang for the buck as u all know.

Posted by: Rocc00 | July 3, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Please do not forget that taxes are almost not exist in Russia (like 13%). It's not that expensive to match Nylander's current contract in Omsk.

Posted by: Rambutan_ru | July 3, 2009 2:38 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: sallyworking2006 | July 3, 2009 3:21 AM | Report abuse

NP. Ya, I would agree that he is definitely gone next season (if he even makes it that far). The problem is that the Caps seem to have already written him off so I don't know if they are willing to give him the opportunity that you spoke of. It feels like they have been scratching him in the hopes of getting him to ask for a trade - they may keep doing that (the fact that they have said the plan is to put Backs on the 1st line and Laich on the 2nd so he may be benched already). If he does not ask for a trade then they must just be planning to send him down as soon as his NMC expires.

Like I said, stranger things have happened, six kids or not. Some players have moved on without their families, especially in the twilight of their careers, in order to earn a living and get a chance to really play. Others have moved their families when it was assumed that they would not (recent Caps examples: Kozzie and Olie). If he really wants to play and get out of the antagonistic (for lack of a better word) situation that he is in, he'll go.

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 3, 2009 7:20 AM | Report abuse

That didn't really flow at one point, but you get my drift! ;-)

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 3, 2009 7:34 AM | Report abuse

On the possibility of Nyls waiving his No Movement Clause:

Our own family had moved around quite a bit for most of my childhood until we were in HS. My dad was a budget analyst in the Fed Government who kept making career moves but was never able to advance from his last slot and was bored and unhappy but stayed there since it's more disruptive to a kids' education to keep moving them in HS. He finally got a new job out of the Wash area when we were grown. So my dad probably felt like Nylander.

As a parent, one would like more stablity in their mid to late 30's but an athlete is less likely to have that. So many athletes are like gypsies. I recall Kozzie wouldn't move his family from Florida to Washington since he kept getting only 1 year deals. He might have considered it otherwise.

So Nyls gets disgusted enough, he'll either leave the family here and go elsewhere or he'll stay here unhappily.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 3, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

My prediction has always been that Nylander, if not traded, will be bought out after next year. If his NMC expires early, then there is an even better option than buying him out.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 3, 2009 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Nash is close to signing an extension with CBJ.

Backstrom and Semin lockdown please...

Posted by: richmondphil | July 3, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

@Boo: I know. Moving Nylander is a nice dream, and it could happen. But odds are that it's a dream for exactly the reason that irockthered stated. Moving a family of eight while the kids are in school is horrendous, and Mrs. Nylander may well not tolerate him not being around for eight-nine months out of the year. The most likely scenario is buyout/waiver next summer, but I'd consider pinning one's hopes on moving Nylander to be, in Dumbledore's words, optimistic to the point of foolishness.

If it happens, great. If McPhee can do it, this board will sing hosannas to the sky, myself included. But ... don't be pissed or upset if it doesn't happen, because it's really, really unlikely.

Posted by: kittypawz | July 3, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Please do not forget that taxes are almost not exist in Russia (like 13%). It's not that expensive to match Nylander's current contract in Omsk.

Posted by: Rambutan_ru | July 3, 2009 2:38 AM |

More importantly, please people, lets not forget that 50% of the KHL teams are bankrupt and that the league had a frickin re-draft after last season.

What does that mean? About half the contracts were honored with about half the amount they signed too.

If your name is not Jagr or Yashin, you did not get anywhere near your full paycheck last year. And reportedly, most players saw about half of what they signed to.

Posted by: richmondphil | July 3, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse


I'm generally not known as a (foolish) optimist - I tend to fall more into the 'realist' camp. That aside, I am certainly not "pinning" my hopes on Nyls moving or even saying that it is likely, I am just saying it is more plausible than many are indicating.

As CapsFan75 said, there is always a chance that he could go and leave the family behind. It certainly would not be the first time that has happened in professional sports. Besides, NHLers spend so much time on the road that they are not home that much during the season, anyway. They tend to accept that a lot of travel and relocation are part of the deal when you have a limited time to play (i.e. they and their families suck it up now so that they can settle down later).

I also would not completely rule out his family moving. Kozzie did both - left his family in FLA while a Cap and is now moving them to Russia (despite the belief of many that he would leave them behind). In some ways it is more surprising that Olie moved his family than it would be for Nyls to do so. Olie may "only" have three kids, but one is autistic - adjusting an autistic child to new everything, finding new doctors, etc. is a HUGE deal, especially for what they knew would potentially be just one year.

So my point in all of that was just that things are not always as obvious and simple as they might appear to be. There are a lot of factors that go into such decisions, many more than we will ever know. Because of that not only have fans been surprised in the past, but they always will be. Again, stranger things have happened ...

Regardless, I do not tend to get "pissed or upset" about these things - I keep them in perspective. That does not mean that I do not want Nyls (and Jose) to be moved, it just means that such things don't get me fired up ... they're just not worth the energy.

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 3, 2009 10:14 AM | Report abuse


Maybe Kozzie was more motivated to move the family to Russia since he is Russian himself. (I have no idea if his wife is Russian but would not be surprised if that is the case.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 3, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Wow Boo, you sound pissed about something.

I get what you're saying and agree.

Posted by: Steve_R | July 3, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse


I'm also surprised that Kolzig moved the family to Florida, especially given that his son was autistic and all the adjustments; etc.

In another sport, BJ. Surhoff had left his family in Baltimore after a trade but was eventually back there. In his case, he had one autistic son and his other star was, and still is, a superstar swimmer at Michael Phelps' long time club. His daughters are also superstar swimmers.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 3, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Oops, I meant to say the BJ Surhoff's other son was, and still is, a superstar swimmer at Michael Phelps' club. (Edit facility, anyone?)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 3, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

HA HA!! Are you trying to get me fired up or something?!? ;-)

Ya, I wonder what the Kolzigs are planning to do now? I am guessing that their next move will be their last (at least for a long time).

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 3, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Boo, I am not a rabble rouser.

How many healthy scratches will it take to get Nyls to waive the NMC?

Posted by: Steve_R | July 3, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Well it's official, board is shut down till maybe Tuesday.

Posted by: RITdude | July 3, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

You are a rabble rouser (which, for some reason, always makes me think of the Hamburgler). How many healthy scratches ... we've had that conversation. What did we decide - 82? :-) Or do we think they can make it happen before that?

Posted by: --Boo-- | July 3, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse


I see that you're right. The Caps board is shut down for the weekend.

Combining all the Anything But Hockey and the Discuss Caps Hockey into the same category was not a very good decision. Overall, I think the board needed some organization. I figure they need the "normal" discuss Caps hockey category, a category to discuss hockey related to other teams, possibly a separate category to discuss our farm teams. There should be a few permanently pinned threads like for people to discuss selling/trading tickets for games they can't go to.

The Boards certainly had a lot of trolls. But, then again, so does this blog. In contrast, the Anaheim Ducks board claims they ban trolls and want the site to be about discussing Ducks hockey. (I wanted to register once to see what Ducks fans thought about our fans' ideas on trying to acquire Pronger.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 3, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse


Yes, I figure, the next move for the Kolzigs will be their last for a long time.

Oddly enough, the name "Holtby" has a similar ring to "Kolzig".

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 3, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse


Good points. Although, I think SOMETIMES trolls are fun to pick on but then other times they're just annoying.

Posted by: RITdude | July 3, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

GMGM being cautious is keeping us where we are. I haven't read all the posts but I'm sure someone already has pointed that out. I'd like to see some movement to replace both Feds and Kozlov.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | July 3, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse


Kozlov is already replaced. We still need a replacement for Feds.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | July 3, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Capsfan: I don't think you're getting it about the boards. The real problem isn't the trolls. It is the morons who have thousands and thousands of posts on that board and apparently have no other life. They acted like they ran the boards rather than the team. I think Leonsis and company just got tired of all the bickering and petty nonsense on the Anything but Hockey board (and all the complaints he received) and shut it down. That p.o.ed the morons who then took their non-hockey bickering to the hockey boards and attacked Ted personally. He should never open those boards again.

Posted by: dcsportsdude | July 4, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

@dcsportsdude: As one of those moronic board posters who has thousands and thousands of posts on the boards, I resent you saying I have no other life. How dare you sit behind your keyboard and cast proverbial stones?

As a full season ticket holder, I am at all the games plus the playoffs. I buy hundreds of dollars of Caps merchandise each year. I travel to see the team play in as many places as I can (which involves a lot of time and expense). I go to development camp. I attend the Amazing Auction which supports the Caps Charities, and spend money on the team merchandise they are raffling off for the charities.

Many of those posters who have all those posts are season ticket holders just like myself, and have been on the boards for YEARS (I have been registered with the boards since 2003). What you seem to miss out on is the fact that the boards are a place where many of us continue our real-life friendships. Yes, there was a contingent of folks who went way above and beyond the call of reasonable once the ABH side of the boards were shut down, and I do not condone that behavior. That being said, I can understand their frustration over not being told why they were shut down; numerous people sent emails asking very politely why, and none were ever responded to. One person even emailed Mr. Leonsis (again, very respectfully) and was told that they were shut down 'Because :)'. That was Ted's quote verbatim. For someone who blogs about how accessible he is to the fans, and how much he caters to the teams fans, his response has a huge level of unwarranted snarkiness to it and it rubbed many people wrong, especially in light of the fact that we spend thousands of dollars a year on the team. Again, it doesn't support anyone's actions, but it would be nice to have the "communication" that Ted so often brags about.

The point of my response, dcsportsdude, is to clarify that no one died and put you in charge of deciding who was worthy enough to post on the Caps boards. So please - spare the majority of us board posters with no lives your self-righteous indignation. You're just as bad as the trolls we have to put up with.

Posted by: bumperhead | July 5, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Any word if the annual equipment sale will be taking place on July 18th?

Posted by: madflava | July 6, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

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