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Devils Slip Past Caps in Shootout

It was more of the same special-teams struggles for the Caps tonight, who failed to take advantage of five power plays (including a 5-on-3) in a 3-2 shootout loss -- their fourth straight defeat -- to the New Jersey Devils at Verizon Center.

Jose Theodore was sublime in overtime, making two consecutive did-he-just-do-that saves to help kill off a Devils power play and push the Caps to a shootout. But after New Jersey's Zach Parise and Jamie Langenbrunner answered Nicklas Backstrom's shootout tally, Alex Ovechkin failed to close the deal against Marty Brodeur.

There were no goals from the Alexes tonight, who were split up on separate lines. But Ovechkin still impressed, assisting on goals by Mike Green -- first of the season, on his 24th birthday, no less -- and Mike Knuble.

There's a lot to talk about, but here's somewhere to start:

By Lindsay Applebaum  |  October 12, 2009; 9:59 PM ET
 
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Our D is terrible!!!
What happened to Erskine?

Posted by: Tondi | October 12, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

STOP using OVIE in shootouts!

Posted by: 555Mass | October 12, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

It's a bit troubling when our problem clearly has been penalties and PK in these last 4 games yet they are not being corrected!!! This team needs more discipline and that 2 minute shift by the Devils was just embarrassing to watch!! 2-2-2 is very underachieving and not living up to expectations! Come on Caps, get it together. All our teams are struggling right now. ;( Oh, and PLEASE don't put Ovie as our last hope on the shootout, he sucks at shootouts.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 12, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Yes Tondi our D is absolutely terrible. Boudreau is apparently blind to this.

Can someone tell Semin to grow a set and play with a little physical presence? I'm tired of watching him give the puck away when he has two guys around him...Or watching him try to stick handle through everyone now because he was able to pull that one move a couple games ago...Semin is not on the first line anymore because when he is they start to play with the puck too much and they dont have anyone going to the net.

Also, Can we not let boyd gordon play anymore when we have a lead going into the thrid period? This is the thrid game he has taken a penalty late in the game.

Posted by: CapsFan44 | October 12, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

this is the kind of a loss that you can live with as far as loses go... they only gave up two goals and they killed all 5 penalties.

more often than not they will win more games if they keep playing like this than lose.

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

While another loss is disappointing, I see some positives. First, all four losses have been by one goal with one in OT and one in a shootout and all four have been to great teams.
About tonight -- yes our penalties cost us, but the main culprits tonight were the new guys Knuble and especially B. Morrison in OT. So the usual suspects were pretty well behaved tonight.

Green had his first goal so maybe that will kickstart his offense so he can get more confidence. He is still shaky at times.

Besides that weak goal on the shootout, Theodore played outstanding behind the net. He not only matched Brouduer but I think played better, especially that spectacular save in the Devils' OT power play.

The Caps are the on the verge of greatness. Hopefully it can start with San Jose.

Posted by: jmarks09 | October 12, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

everyone who is pissed, and im pissed after every loss, needs to look at the bright side - at least Danny Boy doesn't own the Caps!

Posted by: capsfansince74 | October 12, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Offense isn't the problem here it's PP! This team was given THREE 5x3 PP's in two home games and used ZERO + 1/15? 5x4 used?

I know that its only the start of the season but team makes same mistake and BB should be worried for his team and his JOB.

Posted by: Hazz | October 12, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

thats right capsfan44, our forwards (not just semin) need to be more physical and have a better forecheck.... semin is getting bullied off the puck everytime he touches it

Posted by: wowkanut | October 12, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Worried for his job? Hazz - i think we could lose every game for the rest of the season and BB still coaches next year.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | October 12, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

What about Knuble and Semin and Morrison on L2 and Brooks, 19,8 on L1. Semin might benefit from Knuble who seems to fit into whatever line he works with.

Posted by: fehrrocks | October 12, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Only 2 pts. in the last four games is not acceptable - especially when we give away points in our barn. If we expect a Cup we absolutely have to beat teams like Philly, Detroit, NJ, etc. I thought this was our year?

Posted by: CAP-lanta | October 12, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

everyone who is pissed, and im pissed after every loss, needs to look at the bright side - at least Danny Boy doesn't own the Caps!

Posted by: capsfansince74 | October 12, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the Caps owner doesn't advocate going after high priced free agents that don't address the weakness of the team. Oh wait...ummm, well at Leonsis will physically assault and choke Caps fans that disagree with him.

Posted by: freakinandpeakin | October 12, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Our D is terrible!!!
What happened to Erskine?

Posted by: Tondi | October 12, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

what the heck do you expect, a shutout every game??? get a grip

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the Caps owner doesn't advocate going after high priced free agents that don't address the weakness of the team. Oh wait...ummm, well at Leonsis will physically assault and choke Caps fans that disagree with him.

Posted by: freakinandpeakin | October 12, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse


Good for Ted.. some of them NEED to be chocked.

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh and for those not throwing a fit about this four game streak. Take a look when the tying and/or losing goals are happening.

If that is worrisome to you then I don't know what is. This team has been outworked in the third period for 5 straight games. The time in the game when teams up the intensity and the Caps have been beaten in that period except in Boston. Shameful.

Two Dunce Caps for tonights game:

1. Chris Clark for getting into a fight less than a minute after the Caps take a 2-0 lead.

2. Boyd Gordon for taking a late third period penalty for the third time in four games.

Posted by: freakinandpeakin | October 12, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thunk it...Jose-our greatest player thus far.

Posted by: eyechip | October 12, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thunk it...Jose-our greatest player thus far.

Posted by: eyechip | October 12, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

the denver broncos are 5 - 0, anything is possible early in the season

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

We've got a lot of guys on this team who really shouldn't have significant roles on Cup-contending teams. We continue to get zero offense out of the third and fourth lines, and none of our d-men except Green would be in the top four rotation on a really good team. Our big four cover up for a lot of problems, but I'm just not sure we're a particularly good hockey team.

Posted by: Kirg | October 12, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

FREE NYLANDER!!!!

Posted by: CapsandRavens | October 12, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

POST GAME THOUGHTS:
Another tough one to take but again another solid effort to start but this team is not finishing. It's inexcusable. This team gives too much at the defensive blue line when other teams come flying in and are able to get off shots above the hashmarks on the faceoff circles. A d-man needs to be in their face.

Jose Theodore - the man was insane tonight. Those OT saves were highlight reel. Another solid effort but unfortunately the offense went to bed after the first period.

I agree with some of you that the 3rd and 4th lines better start producing and soon.

Nice to see Greenie get one finally. Hopefully this may be the start of him getting in a groove. We shall see.

I'm not a fan of Erskine coming back in the lineup. I prefer Sloan but that's just me.

Time to nut up and stop giving points up at home. It doesn't get easier. Time to get the rods and reels ready as the Sharks come calling on Thursday.

Ice Breakers Goal Shakers

Posted by: Jonathan6 | October 12, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

I am very curious as to how much the Caps spend on scouting compared to a team like the Red Wings. Quite franky I don't think they do a good job of finding players late in the draft. There's a salary cap on players' salary but there is no limit to spending on scouting.

in baseball whre there is no salary cap, teams like the minnesota twins and the florida marlins always do a great of scouting and player development on a shoestring budget. they can't keep their stars once they're eligible for free agency but they keep making the playoffs which is no small feat in baseball.

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

@capsfansince74

Yes, Glad Danny Boy doesn't own the team. McVee is definitely a better GM than Cerrato.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 12, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Defensive problems? Uh, how about Bob Woods. Terrible promotion by Caps management. He won a Calder Cup because he had an all star laden team. I would have gone and gotten an experienced former NHL defenseman. Find Larry Robinson, or go get Rod Langway, I am sorry to bash on Bob, I just was never a big fan of his, ask most people in Hershey and they will tell you the same thing.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | October 12, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Find Larry Robinson, or go get Rod Langway, I am sorry to bash on Bob, I just was never a big fan of his, ask most people in Hershey and they will tell you the same thing.

Posted by: TheSmurfs | October 12, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse


Geez, I didn't know it was the job of a asst coach to find players... thought it was the job of a GM.. silly me

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

The Caps did not look as bad as recently. However, if this month's schedule is the measuring stick of their ability to be an elite team, they are definitely falling short.

I keep thinking they've got the talent but I'm beginning to wonder. I just hope they can stay motivated against San Jose and not get discouraged.

I hope that maybe San Jose will take us lightly as an opponent. And then we'll have a chance.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 12, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Props to Pothier for deflecting that rebound in overtime from the crease to behind the net. Poti decent job getting it out of the zone most of the time. ShaMo B- for the task of watching Green's back. Juice was invisible.

And the best moment was after Jose's two amazing saves in OT, the next shot fluttered over the net. Wow. Just Wow.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | October 12, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I fear we're getting in too big of a hole. We need to turn it around.

Playoff teams. I'm sure the top 4 teams of the Atlantic will make it. Predicted order: Pittsburgh, Philthy, NJ, and NY. Boston will win the North Least. (Somehow, I don't think Ottawa will hold on there.)

And, as for the South Least, Carolina and Florida are not doing well either. Tampa, of all people, is in 1st.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 12, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

@ CapsFan75

oh no, not you too... thought you were the voice of reason around here

LOL

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Geez, this team can't hold onto leads to save their lives. (Yes, I know Brodeur is a great goal tender but.....)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 12, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

@joek443

I don't feel too reasonable at the moment. (I'll probably calm down by tomorrow.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 12, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Geez, I didn't know it was the job of a asst coach to find players... thought it was the job of a GM.. silly me

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 10:49 PM

Geez, you get a coach with experience to deal with so so players, didn't you ever hear of coaches getting the most out of their players?

Posted by: TheSmurfs | October 12, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Our power play isn't clicking this year. I don't know what it is, but it's just not. I noticed the Caps dumped the puck in A TON on the pp tonight, while the Devils skated it in, or at least controlled it going into the offensive zone. This same issue is prevalent during 5 on 5 play - it seems like we're relying way too much on having more skill than the opponents - as opposed to actually running a scheme. Once we get control of the puck in the offensive zone, then our skill really shows - but this dump and chase stuff is not something the Caps can win with.

I thought our defense played well tonight, until about 10 minutes were left in the third. At that point they left the arena. We will not be an elite team with this defense and changes must be made. If you want to know who BB trusts, look at who he put in on the 4-3 in OT - those guys hustle and get the job done - Green wasn't in there - he's a forward playing defense.

Our goalies are mediocre at best. Theodore shouldn't have allowed either of the last two goals in the shootout - it doesn't matter if he played well during the game - he didn't show up during the shootout and we lost. The loss isn't his fault - but he could've won it for us and didn't.

This is VERY worrisome because these are the same flaws we had last year. Nothing has really changed. No progress is a step backwards... At this moment - the guy who picked us to finish 11th in the league doesn't seem that far off. I realize BB has been great - but he's got to push these guys to the next level. I'm going to get killed for saying this, but is this something he's capable of. On the other hand, maybe our players just aren't capable of following his lead - only time will tell. I also feel like our crowd hasn't been as strong now that expectations are so high - but maybe it's just too early in the season.

Posted by: gsockol1983 | October 12, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Carolina and Florida are not doing well either. I don't exactly have confidence in either Atlanta or Tampa Bay finishing first this year.

Hence, our chances of winning the division are not totally shot.

BTW, I wonder how the Bruins fans are feeling at the moment.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 12, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

in the era of butterfly goalies, it's nice to see Brodeur getting it done all these years with the old fashioned stand-up style

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Geez, you get a coach with experience to deal with so so players, didn't you ever hear of coaches getting the most out of their players?

Posted by: TheSmurfs | October 12, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

ok genius, give me an example.. who should be the Rod Langway or Larry Robinson of this team??? I don't see one

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

the caps d is soft,the only time the caps made it to stanley cup finals was when they had a couple of rugged d man that would clear crease tinordi,reekie until the caps get 1 or 2 rugged d man this team will struggle

Posted by: baltraven52 | October 12, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

hall of fame defensemen like Larry Robinson and Rod Langway don't grow on trees... Scotty Bowman couldn't turn ANY of
the D-men that the Caps currently have into players like Robinson or Langway

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if this could be the year where the 4th place team in the Atlantic Division ends up with more points than the other 2 division winners. (If that happens, will someone propose ditching the entire division concept and just having the playoff positioning depend on the Conference standings?)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 12, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

maybe it's time we went back to the ole division playoff style.. the Caps suffered thru that system for years having two of the best teams in the NHL, the isles and flyers in the same division

it's time to turn the table and benefit from that old system!!! LOL

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

@

In other words, you propose leaving the divisional setup thing alone, so that Boston & Washington can squeak into the 2nd and 3rd spots of the playoffs, just ahead of the other 3 good teams in the Atlantic Division.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 12, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Despite only giving up a pair of goals tonight to a really pedestrian Devils team that is going to miss the playoffs the real problem in the phone booth is from the blue line back. GMGM did NOTHING to address his real problems in the off-season and already they are starting to show. Worse, there is no room under the cap to find a goaltender or solid blueliner. The only solace so far is that the Flyers are in the same boat and sinking just as fast.

Posted by: NoRebound | October 12, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

on second thought, it's not gonna work since there are 3 divisions in each conference... has to be even number of divisions

like the old days when 4 teams from each division made the playoffs and 1 and 4 and 2 and 3 of each division played in the first round of the playoffs...

Posted by: joek443 | October 12, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

@joek443

Thank you for being the voice of reason

Posted by: ralCapsFan | October 12, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I don't really like the 3 division thing too well. I would probably recommend two divisions per conference. If the economy recovers, add a couple of expansion teams so that we have 8 teams per division. After that, I would give the division winners a BYE in the first round of the playoffs and have the 2nd and 3rd place teams of each division play each other. Then go against the first place team. And go from their with Conference and SC finals.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 13, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

@NoRebound

Do you really think the Devils will miss the playoffs?

My own feeling was that Tampa, Atlanta, Toronto, Ottawa, and the Islanders were all bad enough so that any of the good teams had a chance of making it. With Montreal letting so many people walk, I don't exactly have confidence in them.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 13, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

you all crack me the f up. with 70+ more games to go most have already conceeded the playoffs let alone the division and how bad a team we are now. OMG..we might actually need a few weeks to get all our cylinders firing correctly. every game we have had an issue, corrected it and moved on to the next issue. just remember while you look at the stats of the teams who are successful currently...like the pens, look at the teams they have played. wish we could have started off with a cake schedule instead of playing all playoff teams to start 5 of the first 6 games...and really will be 7 with san jose. hell...we haven't even played in our own division yet. everyone chill out or start watching football where every game could truly affect the season's outcome this early! GO CAPS!!! btw...weren't we all kidding around through 3/4 of last year that the pens wouldn't even make the playoffs....they sure had a good finish.

Posted by: CapsSkins | October 13, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

The Devils outhustled and outplayed us throughout the 2nd and 3rd periods and Theo made some incredible saves or it would have been ugly! The PP stunk and our D was always 3 steps behind..Lucky we got a point! Another STINKER!!

Posted by: JCB9 | October 13, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

@CapsSkins

At least the Caps have played all tough teams this year, except Toronto. The Redskins have a losing records against all bad teams. So, that's the consolation.

I just don't want to see them get in too big of a hole and have to win every game to squeak into the playoffs like the 2007-2008 season.

Yes, I'm upset. I haven't conceded the division or the playoffs yet. Maybe the conference. (Or, then again, maybe when playoff time rolls around, someone will take us too lightly as an opponent and we dump them and surprise everyone.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | October 13, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

@capsfan - it isn't my ideal start either, but 6 games into an 82 game schedule is jumping the gun a little bit. we are very much in the conference...unless you don't think in 70+ games we can't pick up 8-10 points on the competition. then again...i really don't care about winning the conference, i want the stanley cup. would be interesting to see how many conference winners actually went on to win the cup.

Posted by: CapsSkins | October 13, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad they're getting their lesson in humility now as opposed to April or May. I only hope it sinks in soon, and that they don't forget it by playoff time.

Posted by: Hatfield223 | October 13, 2009 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Well, it happened sooner than later, the knuble/semin switch, that really made the lines better, didn't it? The second line was incredible, and the first line much improved, as well as the defense. LOL.

Posted by: hock1 | October 13, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Why does Boudreau continue to put Ovie out there in the shootout. He absolutely SUX in the shootout!!! I mean he was what, 1 for 10 last year or something? Ridiculous. I think Boudreau has a mancrush on Ovie and thinks he can do everything.

Posted by: Joe69 | October 13, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

@ Why does Boudreau continue to put Ovie out there in the shootout. He absolutely SUX in the shootout!!! I mean he was what, 1 for 10 last year or something? Ridiculous. I think Boudreau has a mancrush on Ovie and thinks he can do everything.

Posted by: Joe69 | October 13, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I can see how that would fly . Talk about putting your job on the line by not putting in the biggest goal scorer in the last five years. Ovie is 33% lifetime in the S.O., so is Semin.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | October 13, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I don't know what the percentage is, but as much as he is the greatest player in the league, OV is terrible at shoot-outs. Of course we lost the shoot-out.

Posted by: jgprentice | October 13, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

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