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Posted at 1:54 PM ET, 12/20/2010

Eric Fehr will likely miss Tuesday's game; Alexander Semin doubtful

By Paul Tenorio

Eric Fehr will likely miss tomorrow night's game against the New Jersey Devils due to a death in the family, Capitals Coach Bruce Boudreau said.

Fehr was praised for his strong play in the third period of the Capitals' loss to the Boston Bruins on Saturday and then had another solid performance in the slump-ending win over the Ottawa Senators on Sunday, scoring once and assisting on another goal to help Washington to a crucial 3-2 win.

Fehr snapped a personal 12-game scoring drought with the goal, and Boudreau said he felt Fehr had made the most of his opportunities.

"He did, and it's sort of unfortunate timing every way around," Boudreau said. "He went home for his grandmother's funeral, he'll probably miss tomorrow night's game. No matter what our situation is, his family is first."

Some other news and notes:

--Alexander Semin took part in the Capitals' optional practice on Monday afternoon but remains day-to-day and is doubtful for tomorrow night's game. Semin has not played since Dec. 12 against the New York Rangers and did not practice last week due to a lower-body injury, the nature of which was not disclosed by the Capitals.

"He's out there today so he's getting closer," Boudreau said. "I don't know how close he is yet but he's getting closer."

--The Capitals' roster is frozen until after the holidays, a team spokesman confirmed, and there will be no moves until after Dec. 27. But call-ups Mathieu Perreault, Andrew Gordon and Jay Beagle could be sent back to Hershey and the Caps can make call-ups during that period, which ends Dec. 27.

More to come.

By Paul Tenorio  | December 20, 2010; 1:54 PM ET
Categories:  Alexander Semin, Eric Fehr  
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Comments

Math is not my strong suit...I am social studies....are there any teaching jobs in Canada :) b/c there are none here

Posted by: capscoach | December 20, 2010 1:53 PM


@capscoach

In Canada they dont teach Social Studies due to the lack of social skills/abilities. However, they are constantly looking for demin working tailors, maple tree tappers, ice skate sharpeners, lumberjacks, and dog sled trainers though.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | December 20, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

@ SAOTI

And don't forget they audition for fans to boo the US National Anthem in Montreal

Posted by: AADCDERM | December 20, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Wonder how Semin will fit into the revamped schemes. The team lately has been playing more like a team. More evidence of our forwards showing awareness in the def zones.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

@AADCERM

I feel the worst for the English teachers. Teaching them vowels is just a pain...

Teacher: a, e, i, o, u, and sometimes y
Student: eh, eh, eh, ooooo, eh and sometimes y eh
Teacher: *sigh

;)

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | December 20, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

re Semin...I think he was showing a commitment to the new system before he was injured, he had been bachchecking more and working harder to get the puck out of the d zone...he also wasplaying well on the PK

Posted by: boomer44 | December 20, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

Are you implying Semin doesnt get back on D...cause dem fightin' words.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | December 20, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Man you guys are right. It's a battle up here in Canada to teach. Once I bore a hole in the ice to find food I have to brave the elements (mostly blowing snow) and dodge flying hockey pucks on my walk to school. Generally I take my dog sled, but they're not around today. At school I have to raise for the salute to Crosby (I teach about 5 minutes from his home town) and then we all try to think of ways that we can turn our desolate wasteland into something more livable. Then I just walk the opposite direction down the one road in Canada until I get back to my igloo, where it's time for bed, since we only get one hour of day light per day.

Posted by: Aldred15 | December 20, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

well i hope he continues it then...one of the potential drawbacks of inserting guys like Sarge and Semin into the lineup is it usually comes at the expense of a strong role player. And one of the main reasons for the underachieving on this team has been a weakness in the 'hardnosed team mentality' concept. You bring back Semin, Sarge, and BGordon and subtract AG, Beagle, Erskine, and you may not see any net benefit.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

From today's Caps web site:

"Matt Bradley led the Caps with six hits in just 10:19 of work."

Will he or someone else please teach Perrault, Fehr and Steckel.... to name a few... (feel free to add the players of your choice) to please finish their checks.

Where do I find the number of hits and other info that was readily accessible last year?

Thanks.

Sarasota Dave

PS...Still waiting for a new coach...Boudreau is yesterday's hero...and maybe when that happens we won't have to suffer through those amateur lame adverstising pimping commercials.
He and his foul mouth are a total embarrasment to the Caps organization...and his mother..god bless her.

Posted by: capper3 | December 20, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

@Aldred15

I KNEW IT!

P.S. Is it true that the bus stop for the schools is conveniently located at Crosby's basement door?

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce | December 20, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton

Are you implying Semin doesnt get back on D...cause dem fightin' words.

Posted by: SeminAllOverTheIce

awesome! Lets duke it out! No scripted fights here though..it'll have to be in the heat of the moment.

I don't think Semin's backchecking is much of an issue anymore. But there is much more to being a responsible player on the ice than simply hustling on the backcheck. Almost too much to go into.

To me, Semin's unwillingness to engage a player that is close to him in many different areas of the ice is a concern. He likes to use his stick whenever possible and there are many times a play requires more than that. When you have an opportunity to close the gap on a player, esp in your own zone, you need to take advantage of that opp and make the right play. I see a lot of "backing off" going on on this team in general, and Semin is a major culprit in this area. Now that Flash is gone, Semin really stands out as a guy who will most often refuse to close the gap aggressively on his man. Trying to get a stick on a puck or intercept a puck is a lower% play in my book than just aggressively closing the gap and making contact or jarring a puck loose or jamming your body against the boards and sealing off a lane, etc. I know it sounds ambiguous but, shrug.

All that being said, I've noticed a slight improvement in this area from him on the PK. Maybe with the add'l scrutiny on our PK units its increased his sense of urgency in the def zone.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

"Trying to get a stick on a puck or intercept a puck is a lower% play in my book than just aggressively closing the gap and making contact or jarring a puck loose or jamming your body against the boards and sealing off a lane, etc."

Isn't that how Datsyuk plays defense? That style seems to work pretty well for him. (I'm not saying Semin is Datsyuk but just using Datsyuk as an example of a player who can be very successful on the defensive end using that style).

Posted by: sgm3 | December 20, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

From today's Caps web site:

"Matt Bradley led the Caps with six hits in just 10:19 of work."

Will he or someone else please teach Perrault, Fehr and Steckel.... to name a few... (feel free to add the players of your choice) to please finish their checks.

----------------------------------------

Fehr played hard, so even though his hit total wasn't impressive I can accept the rest of his gritty play in lieu of the hits. He's not the greatest skater so he's not going to be able to make a beeline to the puck carrier and land many hits. He's like Knuble in that respect.

Steckel was good on faceoffs as usual but he definitely has room to step up his physical game. It blows my mind that our 4th line centers are basically Steckel, BGordo, and MaJo. Such a far cry from guys like Bryan Boyle, Burish, Konopa, Rupp, Craig Adams.

Perreault should be finishing more checks, he's quick enough. But he's not committed in that regard and his body isn't used to playing that style. His size itself should not be a diminishing factor though, there are other smaller players (ie Matt Cooke) who dont have a problem finishing checks.

Combine that with Ovechkin's inconsistency in the physical game along with other guys like Beagle who should definitely be finishing every check they can.

Currently the only players on this team who look to finish their checks in a fairly consistent manner are Brads, Hendricks, Erskine, and to a slightly lesser degree Mike Green. There's a big dropoff after that.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

listen, i've been on record plenty of times saying that if Semin played the game like Datsyuk you wouldn't get much complaining from me. But I don't think their games are identical in that regard. Datsyuk can be a heavy hitter at times and while of course he'll gravitate to a fancier game (as well he should), he is more responsible on the ice when it comes to making contact when necessary.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Datsyuk - given credit for 135 hits from the beginning of last yr to now

Semin - 40 measly hits over that same period

Still want to make that comparison? And I know the caveat there was how each of those players uses his stick to free the puck in the def zone. But from my impression of Datsyuk, he is more willing to engage another player physically in all zones on the ice.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

MP plays a Martin St. Lous style game(I'm not saying he is as good as St. Louis just that they play a similar style and have a similar size).

St. Louis has 15 hits in 32 games so far this year. MP has 5 hits in 9 games this year. That is about the same pace. I think MP's physicality has been fine(for what is expected of him in his role). When he is on a line with Knuble and Laich it is those two who will do most of hitting. Just like St. Louis, who leaves the hitting to his linemates.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 20, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Also, Alzner is 3rd among Caps defensemen in hits with 42 and has 10 more than Carlson. Just pointing that out.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 20, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Pavel has a lot of hits on youtube, go check it out. But this hit is one I've highlighted because its the type of hit Semin would never make. He's not going to close ranks on a player in open ice with this type of body check. In fact, no one outside Ovechkin on our team could make a hit like this. Bradley's not an open ice hitter, neither is Hendricks. Mike Green's got the speed and explosion but he doesn't poach the center of the ice either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm2x13R4_Cw&feature=related

Think Semin plays like this? Think Semin could ever get 56 hits in a playoff season? He's be lucky to get 5. Datsyuk led almost every playoff performer in hitting a few yrs ago when Det made it to the finals. The only guy who outhit him on his own team was Brad Stuart, a prolific hitter in his own right.

Again, don't come to me with a Datsyuk/Semin comparison. There is none except for the fact that both players are highly skilled. You're better off making a comparison to one of Chicago's top liners. But not Datsyuk.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

This outta put some fuel on the fire:

"DUCHENE, FLEISCHMANN AND STAAL ARE NHL'S THREE STARS OF WEEK"
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=346270

Posted by: FrankM73 | December 20, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Why is the roster frozen? Is that a league thing or just caps? b/c if we r missing Fehr as well as Semin, that could be tough.

Posted by: capscoach | December 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Just like St. Louis, who leaves the hitting to his linemates.

Posted by: sgm3

there is a slight difference there. For one, Marty for many yrs was a real in-your-face player. He was a bit like Dino Cicarelli in that regard. He's also proven himself as a valuable member of a Cup winner.

MP hasn't proven anything except some inconsistency in his play. When he has some of Marty's resume, then we can start comparing him in ways other than his stature. I've seen MP show real fiestiness one time on the ice. That was in Hershey against Wilkes-Barre's Zach Sill. And Bouchard had to come bail him out of that situation. But Marty's on-ice legacy has shown him to be a much fiestier fiery player on the ice.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

I agree Semin isn't as good of a defensive forward than Datsyuk, but no one in the NHL is. So just because Semin isn't as good as the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he isn't good. He just isn't the best.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 20, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Also, Alzner is 3rd among Caps defensemen in hits with 42 and has 10 more than Carlson. Just pointing that out.

Posted by: sgm3 |

probably why the fans including me have eased up on Alzner.

He's shown more of a willingness this year to be a little tougher to play against. And esp thru the losing streak.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

@Vaporboy
@Jmurray 019
@Flynn321
@-Mark
@ds-kelly
@alfred15

Man are you folks clueless. Some of us are from up North or the Midwest where our cousins, nephew, uncles etc. follow other pro teams with a passion. Sure, other cUp winners have had loss runs during a cUp year. Unfortunately those cUp teams didn't lose the WAY WE LOSE. A 7-0 loss to Torts is pathetic. The Florida game was embarassing. The Toronto comeback doesn't happen to either Red Wing's cUp coaches.

Winning the Stanley Cup is a "Mount Everest
Type" feat, that requires men of character, men who ignore pain, men with backbones of steel. Long after our guys are done for year (Green and Semin start clubbin' full time. Green needs to get rid of that stupid car, because it's so obvious he's not at home watching the team that just dusted him. Mike, do you really want to win?) the true hockey fans continue to watch the "FIST FIGHT" that unfolds in the conferance championships.

We get to watch guys like Al Arbour, Scotty Bowman, Peter Laviolette, Toe Blake(way back) win the prize. Even the cUp losing coaches are impressive :Lindy Ruff, Larry Robinson, Pat Burns, etc.

BB is not in this league. It's SUPER obvious from the HBO series that he is a goof.

When folks try to compare this team to the cUp winners that had loss streaks, they get specific, and then it gets comical.

We have no one on our team who plays like every minute like Keith, Toews or Buf.
Which one of our defenseman play's like Pronger. Do Fehr and Laich, and Knuble play with the reckless abandon of Mike Richards or "Mr.Ugly Hair". No.

This team has no problem getting torched by weak teams, that true cUp champs may lose to. But, not in embarassing style.

Folks need to start watching "late round playoff hockey", before they start rattling off stats.

Our team that finally wins the cUp will look more like the '98 team than this current team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 20, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

@capscoach

its a league wide thing. Players can be called up, not sent down. No trades or loans can occur during this time either. It expires the 27th. Its just done to help people stay in one place around the holiday.

Posted by: ThePat | December 20, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The rosters freeze every year for Christmas (it's in the CBA). Means you can't send anyone down and no trades. If an emergency, I believe you can recall a player but then he'd have to stay until the 27th.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 20, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the info Pat!

Posted by: capscoach | December 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

hopefully it just fires up Hannan even more :)

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The roster is frozen, not the line up...

The freeze is a league thing (I forget when it starts), but teams (like the Leafs) can start theirs earlier. Burke likes to think he's a classy guy and froze their roster on the 9th I think.

Posted by: GFisher1 | December 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

So just because Semin isn't as good as the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he isn't good. He just isn't the best.

Posted by: sgm3

Well you can say that about anybody, can't you? You brought up Datsyuk, I didn't.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

One thing I think the Caps need to do is develop a PP with Ovie not on the point. I don't think they should give up Ovie on the point all together as it has worked with good success over the past few years. But I think they need a 2nd option that will confuse opponents as they will have to play the two types of PPs differently.

The problem is, who is the other point man the Caps can use? Carlson has shown the potential to be one, but I don't think he is really there yet.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 20, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Pavel hits bigger guys, shuts other forwards down, and collects NO penalties in the process. (No, lazy stick fouls in the O- zone either)

Pavel also hangs out in UGLY PLAYOFF TRAFFIC. Something Semin did not do last year.

If I'm building a cUp team, It's Pavel hands down.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 20, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Pavel hits bigger guys, shuts other forwards down, and collects NO penalties in the process. (No, lazy stick fouls in the O- zone either)

Pavel also hangs out in UGLY PLAYOFF TRAFFIC. Something Semin did not do last year.

If I'm building a cUp team, It's Pavel hands down.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach | December 20, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

food for thought.

What do Westgarth, Scott, Shelley, Boogey/Prust, Boulton, Engelland/Godard, Gillies/Konopka, Thornton, Orr, Parros, Hordichuk, Stortini, etc etc have in common?

They're all "tough guys" who are fixtures in their respective team lineups.

Now, why would you guess that DJK isn't a fixture in ours?

Answer 1: he's simply not good enough to crack our lineup because we're too deep?

Answer 2: The Caps don't inherently believe that type of player is a valuable component to our success.

Because at this point, he's probably not going to get back in the lineup easily. He's already behind 3 or 4 Hershey players. And since we didn't play him much in the losing streak, he's certainly not going to get back into the lineup now that we won a game.

So my answer is: I betcha, that most of those players listed above would be in King's position if they were Caps' property. And that King would get a lot more ice time with other teams, regardless of their depth or their record. That does not play any part in why he's not playing for us.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Good couple of games by Fehr, sorry about his personal loss, but even more sorry that his missing a game will undoubtedly end his current stint on a top line. He isn't the best skater (which is why IMO BB rarely plays him on one of the top 2 lines), but Fehr is one of those players that is only good on a top 2 line. He's a scorer, period. Fehr doesn't do a lot of other things well but he has above average hands around the net and to try to use him as anything other than that is a waist of roster space. Some players only excel with top line minutes on a top line and Fehr is a classic example. With as much time as BB gave Flash on one of the top lines, his not doing that with Fehr further proves to me that he doesn't understand how to use the players he has effectively.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | December 20, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

If I'm building a cUp team, It's Pavel hands down.

Posted by: Hunterforcoach

I'd take one Pavel over 3 Semins even.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

@Hunterforcoach

I agree, I would take Datsyuk over Semin in a heartbeat. Datsyuk is an awesome all-around player. Semin is great all-around player(a step below awesome in my rankings).

Posted by: sgm3 | December 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I'm not a fan of trading Fehr. I heard that bandied about a bit during this streak. But even when he's not performing upto par, we're not exactly swimming around in 6ft4 prospects who have shown at least a tendency to score and compete hard.

To this team, its as rare as finding Tanzanite outside of Tanzania. I wouldn't give that up unless you can get back a gritty front line player in return.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Semin is great all-around player(a step below awesome in my rankings).

Posted by: sgm3

the main factor keeping Semin from being Datsyuk is desire. He has the skills, even has the strength in that wiry frame of his.

To that end, I would put Semin a whole 2 or 3 notches below Datsyuk. If I'm heading into a long playoff season, Semin's not even on my radar.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Obviously Bruce and GMGM should be fired because they are letting Fehr go to the funeral. Don't these guys care at all about winning the SE division?

Posted by: sabredc | December 20, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

First, they should be fired for picking Fehr over Shea Weber, Mark Stuart, Getzlaf, and Mike Richards.

The funeral stuff....that's a close second for sure.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

2003 was not a good draft year for McPhee. Or 2005. Or 1998, 1999, 2000 or 2001. 2008 would be bad too I think except for the Carlson deal saved him. Certainly Baby Gus was a bad pick. Holtby was maybe 2008, jury's still out there.

Posted by: tominsocal1 | December 20, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

@tominsocal1

2002, 2004 and 2006 were all pretty good drafts. Semin was one of only three 2002 first round draft picks to make an all-star team. BGordon, when healthy, is a solid checking line center.

2004 is ridiculous. Yes, I know Ovie was #1 overall but to get him and Green and Schulz all in the 1st round is outstanding.

Posted by: sgm3 | December 20, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I'd also like to say kudos to the Caps for extending Erskine. I see a few people thought 1.5 was too much but like so many things, it's relative. To say that paying a bottom line minute D-man 1.5 is too much is not seeing the whole picture. You have to look at what he brings to the team versus what the team has. Erskine is clearly the most physical, meanest, and toughest player (other than DJK whom is only played maybe once every 10 gms) on our pathetically soft roster. Just because BB chooses to give him few minutes doesn't mean Ersk is not worth the 1.5. Until this team gets significantly tougher overall, we should be thrilled that we have the Lumberjack for another two yrs. at that price.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | December 20, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Obviously Bruce and GMGM should be fired because they are letting Fehr go to the funeral. Don't these guys care at all about winning the SE division?

Posted by: sabredc

I'm not sure who this comment was directed at since I didn't notice anyone on here complaining about them letting him attend this funeral, but I hope you didn't take from my comments that I think it's wrong that they let Fehr attend this funeral because if that's what you got from my post, you clearly missed my point.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | December 20, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Pavel over Semin is a no brainer. I've always said Semin is one of the best stick handlers/ shooters in the game and he still is, but Datsyuk's so much more of a complete player. Semin is an elite talent that is valuable to this team as he would be to any, but I still say now is the time to deal him when we can get maximum return like the no. 2 center this team really needs. I've said it before and I'll say it again, extending Semin will bite this team in the a*@. I seriously doubt he will take a home team discount that would make it worth it to re-sign him. Love his skill, but with all things considered, you have to move him this year for maximum return for this team.

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | December 20, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I"m guessing that SabreDC was making a not-so-subtle point that there are a lot of Caps Chronic Complainers out here in blogland.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

1998 -- bad draft. Only player ironically still playing is an enforcer (well he's more of a middleweight role player) in Krys Barch. Oddly, he didn't start off as a fighter but added that to his repertoire after bouncing around the minors a bit. Kudos to him in finding a way to stick in this league.

1999 -- no one panned out here

2000 -- got a few good yrs out of Pettinger, Sutherby is now playing a decent role with Dallas as well. Along with the aforementioned Krys Barch. But its safe to call this a below-avg draft

2001 -- again, the only two NHLers here made it with OTHER teams (Paetsch who was marginal, and Oduya)

2002 -- you get one player in Eminger who turns into Carlson. Semin. And Gordo. Nothing past round 1 although I still have hopes that Patrick Wellar can at least provide some defensive depth at the NHL level

2003 -- Fehr

2004 -- Ovy.Sarge,Green, nothing past the 1st round except Lepisto who has made it with a different NHL team

2005 - bust

2006 - Backstrom and 2 goalies

2007 - bust aside from a top 5 pick in Alzner

2008 - Carlson, maybe Holtby. Everything else looks iffy at best given that we traded SDR for a non-player.

2009 - still early but it looks like a good draft yr. Mitchell is a good role player, as is Wey. Eakin and Majo look to be NHL material while the jury on Orlov is out.

2010 - another unbalanced draft with nothing but skill taken even in the rounds that you look for some different qualities. Why we felt we had to draft a Samuel Carrier type is beyond me. This org litters itself with that type of player.

Posted by: cstanton1 | December 20, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Always liked Sutherby's toughness but clearly shouldn't have been drafted as high as he was.

Oduya performed really well for several years in the S.E.L. after we drafted him but we never gave him a chance and now he's a regular over here with NJ. Still scratching my head on that one. We did good in finding him in the draft but didn't think he was ever good enough to give a chance?

Posted by: FunkyGloveFacewash | December 20, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I read these comments about Canadians and learn that rednecks can be hockey fans too , much to my surprise. I guess a lot of you folks are unaware or forgot that when the Iranians took US embassy workers hostage, the Canadian embassy folks put their own freedom at risk by helping many Americans escape the hostage taking.

Posted by: chopin224 | December 21, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

@cstanton1

Your comments can sometimes be mean and antagonistic - but I have to say, you make some damn good points in your posts. Having a beer with you would make for some rousing conversations :)

Posted by: Snowdog | December 21, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

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