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Erskine Still Out

Tom Poti and Boyd Gordon have returned to practice this morning. But John Erskine, who suffered an upper body injury in the second period Monday, still is not skating with his teammates. The big defenseman skated on his own before practice, but that likely means he's out for tomorrow's game against the Sharks.

The forward combos, meantime, look the same as yesterday. The D-pairings, however, will likely have a different look with Erskine out.

Mark will have more after practice as I work on some other stuff.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  October 14, 2009; 10:32 AM ET
 
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I think we should try Sloan & Schultz on the wings with Boyd Kane...just tinkering...can't hurt to find some scoring on that 4th line - right Bruce?

Posted by: Jaymagz | October 14, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the update Tarik. It will be interesting to see whether the Caps can maintain a more focused team defense against a high-flying club tomorrow night.

Posted by: Sonyask | October 14, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Lines per Corey/WaTimes...

Ovechkin-Morrison-Knuble

Laich-Backstrom-Semin

Clark-Steckel-Fehr

Laing-Gordon-Bradley-Nylander

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | October 14, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I like that 4th line. With 4 guys up front, there's no way they can be negatives! :)

Posted by: richmondphil | October 14, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I like that second line. Backie is so responsible that it could help Sasha well. Morrison's past work with Knuble, and Knuble/Ovi also could work.

Posted by: Sonyask | October 14, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

From previous thread gogetem for the most part said the Caps are men and have to act like men. Also said that role players aren't coddled. It was response to an earlier post of mine. (That was the gist)

gogetem: You have no idea what BB does for the role players. People on here have said that Gordon needs to sit for his late penalties but BB hasn't. He probably has a different way of dealing with Gordon. Maybe Gordon will sit more when Flash returns.

These guys are still kids, any psychology course will tell you that regarding 20 somethings. Kids don't mentally turn into men and women just because they turned 18. They go from Junior hockey, where they are boarded by host families who look out for them, and then some go to college if not directly to the pros. When they sign their first contract they usually live like college students in apartments with no furniture and truly on their own for the first time in their lives, for Europeans, for the first time outside of their country on most occasions. Then if they excell and sign a big contract by the time they are 23 they don't become responsible adults over night either. They don't know how to manage their money and are just kids trying to stay focused. The only thing they do know is the rink, the weight room, and the stadium.

That is why I like to give these guys the benefit of doubt. They are only a few years removed from being teenagers no matter how much money they make. Some days when they don't perform well they may have a friggin' cold, or the flu, or a pulled muscle, and play through it. They don't call in sick and log onto the Capitals Insider to pass the day.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 14, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

superpaqman:
Well played? How so?

Posted by: Boo- | October 14, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Gordon appeared to be limping at six flags but maybe that's how he walks.

Posted by: capsfan5 | October 14, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Your post earlier, made good points.`

Posted by: superpaqman | October 14, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

@MetalCapsFan:

Thanks for the detailed stats (most wins most points, etc.) and link in response to my query yesterday --this information will be useful in my sinister plot to establish absolute dominion over this blog...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! (I kid! LOL)

@cstanton:

Your comment/response on my post from yesterday is appreciated; it showed insight, respect, and comprehension of what I was trying to say. For this, I thank you (even though we don't always agree).

I try (and thus far this season have succeeded) never missing a game on TV, but I REALLY need to see some live action at VC to properly treat my hockey 'jones'. Perhaps against a Canadian team; I am afraid that, since I am not a STH, only the most costly seats will be available against opponents such as PHI, PIN, NYR and BOS.

Posted by: Rhino40 | October 14, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

So Poti has recovered from having all those opposing team goals bounce in off him? Shame. I was hoping maybe half the D would throw their backs out on the rides at 6 flags and let LTIR free up some cap space for some Hershey guys.

Posted by: jerseygirl15 | October 14, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Well,fanohock1, your points are well taken & in some situations justified; however some are not in their early 20's. Just when do you start treating them like adults -- when they're 37 ... or when their name is Nylander? If you continue babying them & treating them like they're God's gift to the hockey world and can do no wrong, they will never grow up. If they're managing to live on their own, go to the bars & drink, drive a vehicle, have a bank account, girlfriend or wife, make financial decisions on their own, make mistakes & suffer the consequences in their personal lives ... then they are old enough to certainly understand and handle being demoted to another line or sitting out a game for continued shoddy performance on the ice. Well, the rest of the world goes to work and is expected to perform if they have a cold or flu ... and those who call in sick too often or make excuses, soon don't have a job to go to. Perhaps you called in sick today so you could log on to Capitals Insider to pass the time away but I don't expect the players do.

Posted by: gogetem | October 14, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

how many 18yr olds do we have on our roster again ?, lets coddle them until they're about 25. Semin till he's about 30.

touche Rhino.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Just calling things like I see them when I call someone a troll. If you can not criticize or critique without berating another blogger or making just outlandish claims of hockey knowledge (godlike) you are a troll, plain and simple.

Posted by: PhilR | October 14, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

To chime in, the trolls you must be describing are Fanock and LeftCoastCaps fan. The way they react when someone on here critiques a player's performance is they attack the poster. Plain and simple. If that happens, don't be surprised if you get attacked back.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Now I thought players were getting blamed for getting off to a 2-2-2 start and Nylander gets brought into the discussion. The man hasn't even been handed a jersey yet. The core players are young. Knuble is 37, is he now being called lazy? You are straying from the subject. The core players are young. Semin wasn't demoted either. He was brought to the 2nd line to kick start another line. BB said it himself by saying one line scoring is not enough. So now Backstrom is demoted because he is on line 2? Those scoring line are 1a and 1b.

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 14, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1: You're not attacked you respond to a response calling people "idiot" and "stupid." If we were sitting next to each other would you be pulling my hair?

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 14, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

It's not safe to have your own opinions.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 14, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1: You're not attacked you respond to a response calling people "idiot" and "stupid." If we were sitting next to each other would you be pulling my hair?

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 14, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

not true. The thread is still there, fairly easy to prove or disprove this. Anytime god forbid someone throws out a trade scenario involving Semin, you lose your marbles. I only called you what I did in response to how you reacted to the trade suggestion. Didn't you go so far as to say I only wanted to bring thugs back in a trade for Semin? Now I'm sorry, but THAT was idiotic considering the example I had provided (the Mogilny trade).

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1: For the record, I don't attack anyone. I comment on posts I don't agree with and while others agree to disagree with me, some like you, choose to make it into a p*ssing contest.

As far as players getting demoted and "punished", sorry, once again, your god-complex is irritating to not just me but to others. In the big scheme of things, what you believe needs to be done to players won't ever be done just because you said so. Get over yourself. No one in the Capitals organization is listening to you.

@ fanohock1: As always, you seem to be grounded in the real world unlike others when making your comments and criticisms. I appreciate it and look forward to what you have to say on things. Nice zinger with the pulling hair comment. He probably would. =P

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

i think the reality of how BB treats any given player is going to be more like what fanohock1 has described.
a good portion of players that make it to this level have been coddled and catered to from an early age. i would venture to guess that some of them even had some basic daily routines 'taken' care of for them.
each of them needs to be treated as an individual as they will each react as an individual.
in my perfect world any player that is acting selfish or undisciplined would have to answer for it - just like gogetem says.
however my job is not on the line to produce a winning (marketable) product on the ice.
i will leave it up to BB and GMGM on how to handle the team as they are the ones with the most knowledge of the situation

i don't wear rose colored glasses nor do i think the sky is falling. i would categorize myself as a 'homer' though.
i follow the caps for the entertainment value, warts and all, because that is what i do.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 14, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

and let LTIR free up some cap space for some Hershey guys.

Posted by: jerseygirl15 | October 14, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

If Sloan has a hard time proving he belongs in the top 6, I don't think Hershey guys will be much better unless its Carlson. And I have a feeling this org is finally starting to learn their lesson about throwing some of their younger D out to the wolves (remember Cutta)

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1 is entitled to his opinion but not at the cost of calling someone stupid or their ideas idiotic because really, when you start placing too much value in your own opinion, you start sounding like those rejects calling for your repentence because tomorrow is the end of the world.

if cstanton1 would speak with respect and not this condescension that he'll chalk up to his just being born perfect, then maybe people wouldn't think he's such a big tool.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

LeftCoastCapsFan:

@ cstanton1: For the record, I don't attack anyone. I comment on posts I don't agree with and while others agree to disagree with me, some like you, choose to make it into a p*ssing contest.

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right. You're Mr Congeniality.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

@ Capt_Kirk_in-AZ: Some people lose sight that the Capitals are to be watched for the entertainment value. Too much analysis and then how much of the game could you really say you enjoyed if you were too busy looking at angles of shots made. *shrug* I dunno'. As always, I'd imagine I'd enjoy watching a game with you.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

if cstanton1 would speak with respect and not this condescension that he'll chalk up to his just being born perfect, then maybe people wouldn't think he's such a big tool.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse
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why don't you just own up to the fact that you threw yourself into this little flame war with your own condescending commentary. Here's a cut and paste job since you have such a selective memory.

(@ fanohock1: Don't bother trying to reason with cstanton1. He will call for a trade whenever he wants, like the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland calls for the head of anyone. Let's just be grateful that no one in the Capitals management actually cares for what cstanton1 thinks.

I'll take Alexander Semin, warts and all instead of gambling him away like cstanton1 wants. )

there you go smart guy. Plain as day. You stuck your nose right into the middle of something when all I made was a trade suggestion. That's all it took for you and your little cadre of apologists to start closing ranks. If you really disagreed, all you had to do was back it up with some hockey-related talk. You should take your own advice about how to conduct oneself on this board.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1: You'll note that you're one of a few who seems to have a consistent problem with me. I have nothing to do with your reputation on the message boards. That, you brought on yourself.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

@ Capt_Kirk_in-AZ: Some people lose sight that the Capitals are to be watched for the entertainment value. Too much analysis and then how much of the game could you really say you enjoyed if you were too busy looking at angles of shots made. *shrug* I dunno'. As always, I'd imagine I'd enjoy watching a game with you.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse


right, we get it. You don't know hockey enough to discuss it, you just want to watch it and enjoy it without any critical analysis or thought. Isn't there a cheerleader board you can go post on instead of this one? Last time I checked, this was a forum for discussion and critical thought.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Damn you guys are acting like a bunch of B@tches

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 14, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@ cstanton1: You'll note that you're one of a few who seems to have a consistent problem with me. I have nothing to do with your reputation on the message boards. That, you brought on yourself.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

the only problem I have with you is you like to stick your nose into the middle of a discussion and then imply that anyone who finds any fault with anything Caps-related is somehow not a real fan, as apparently yourself. Did I say anything directed at you prior to you responding to something I said related to Semin? No. You consistently stick your nose into a discussion and make it personal, then you go running for the hills on your high horse. Don't be so sanctimonious. You expect others to follow a decorum here, start with yourself. Try not to get so bent out of shape if someone posts something that isn't equivalent to s**king of your favorite Cap.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1 made the point about why Semin wouldn't be traded and you took it upon yourself to dismiss his opinion and comment. nice that you seem to ignore your own condescending remarks and act like the innocent party. i'm calling it a day. i'll take the advice so many have given me - ignore the trolls. consider yourself ignored.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

From previous thread:
"Was it our imagination that he was fast, or was it because no one was doing the same thing when we were watching?"
Yes. Nylander is a veteran NHL player. Ergo, he can skate at an NHL level. So, if you're at ice level an NHL player such as Nylander looks really fast. If you watch that same player who was skating at the same speed from one of the upper levels he would look considerably slower. Is Nylander as fast as Ovechkin or several other NHL players? No. When you're skating without obsticles (other players or defensemen) on full ice you tend to go faster. Even on a breakaway in a game you tend to glide or do cross overs or deke in some fashion as you approach the goal which slows you down. I hope this addresses your question. If not please ask or restate.

I know that I said I wouldn't post anymore about Nylander, but this is different.

BTW, as I recall the '97/'98 Caps (the ones that went to the finals) had an 8 game losing streak around "the break". This is from recall and not looking it up so I may be a little off. Anyhow the point is they lost a bunch of games in a row, they were a good team, and they went to the finals.

I still have to change my screen name one of these days. :)

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | October 14, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Let's put them all in a padded child care center room and lock the door. At the end of the day we'll unlock the door and see who's left standing.

Posted by: puckman | October 14, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

For those that love the Caps it has been a good time. For those that constantly want to rip players from your team, get a life. There is no need to respond to me with some kind of remark a 5 year old would give cstanton1 and JD09. All I have to say is my definition of being a fanatic about a team is you take the good with the bad. If you really are a fan you typically take negative things said about your team personal, which is why you are labled fanatical. It doesn't matter if a self loathing Caps fan or a Penguin fan says negative things over and over and over and over...

Going to the games and discussing the team with fans was much more pleasurable when the Caps stunk. At least you knew you were talking with fans that weren't just there because they were expected to be something to brag about.

Again, no reason to respond, I'm outta here. Sure put a waaaaaaaaah in a quick response or suggest I know nothing about hockey in general or how the game is played. I've been enjoying hockey live since 1972 when I used to go to Blackhawks game with my dad at the old Chicago stadium, and the Chicago Cougars in the Amphitheater. I've played and coached hockey for heck 37 years now. So although we have disagreed, it is a matter of opinion, even what you think a fan is, and what I think a fan is. It is better for me to step on out of the Capitals Insider because I don't have to worry about reading trash about my favorite sports team. The 37 years of experiencing hockey by no means makes me an expert but it does mean that I understand the game, and how it is played.

I will enjoy the Caps team I have right now and feel lucky as heck to have the talent on the ice for me to see on a regular basis. Let's go Caps!!!

Posted by: fanohock1 | October 14, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

lets see how that works out for them cotton

Posted by: superpaqman | October 14, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Follow up to my post:
How do I know all of this? I've skated against (former) NHL players. It was an alumni game. And they kicked our ----- uh let's just say they won. I was humbled by the experience and came to realize how truly good NHL players are especially the recently retired ones.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFedorov | October 14, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

So long!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 14, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

can we please get back to arguing about trading semin instead of yelling at each other...i'd rather read cheef talk about GM undertipping a waitress than you guys/gals beating each other up.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 14, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Practice update from Corey/WaTimes...

UPDATE: Boyd Gordon left practice early, but Bruce Boudreau said it was just a precautionary move. Boudreau also said it is unlikely John Erskine will play tomorrow night.

Tom Poti said he is feeling better and he completed the full practice.

Boudreau lit into the boys a little bit midway through practice, equating work ethic in practice to playing well for a full 60 minutes (something that has been an issue of late). He said afterwards it was genuine.

"I was pissed off at a couple of guys," he said. "They've got to work harder. I was always taught ... it is not like a tap -- you can't just turn it on and off. You create the habits that you do. If you have a bad work day here, then it is going to start off as a bad work day tomorrow. You have to have the good habits of working hard all the time. The practices become shorter as the year goes on, but still the work ethic should be at a high level. When it's not, I get mad at people."

Posted by: MetalCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Can we get back now to discussing trades, lines, speculation, criticizing players etc...all the things this blog is for - a distraction from our work days - instead of calling names and bickering like little children? If you take it personally - leave.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 14, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

If you have a bad work day here, then it is going to start off as a bad work day tomorrow. You have to have the good habits of working hard all the time. The practices become shorter as the year goes on, but still the work ethic should be at a high level. When it's not, I get mad at people."

The Redskins need a BB instead of a puppet.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 14, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

superpaqman:
But of course! ;-) Thanks and well played you!

Posted by: Boo- | October 14, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

who do you think gets the spot on D with the sexy lumberjack out?
i hope it is sloan, but then again i am a little biased

Posted by: _stevo | October 14, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1 made the point about why Semin wouldn't be traded and you took it upon yourself to dismiss his opinion and comment. nice that you seem to ignore your own condescending remarks and act like the innocent party. i'm calling it a day. i'll take the advice so many have given me - ignore the trolls. consider yourself ignored.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

again, you lie. Fanock didn't just make the point, he stated that I probably wanted to trade Semin for a bunch of cementheads when I clearly laid out a very different scenario. If you're going to recap a discussion, at least keep it real.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

fanock: Again, no reason to respond, I'm outta here. Sure put a waaaaaaaaah in a quick response or suggest I know nothing about hockey in general or how the game is played

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nothing less manly than someone who plays the victim card. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ok back to Semin and what we can get for him.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"There is no need to respond to me with some kind of remark a 5 year old would give cstanton1 and JD09."
@fanhock1

I'm glad I stayed in your thoughts even thought I haven't even made a comment.

Your comments on this thread, and previous threads, indicate how much you are really full of yourself. You tell people they aren't true fans. Who gives you this authority???? What makes you king fan? Caps fan should be happy that the building is filled every night. Instead, you're on here complaining about the fans and crowning yourself as the only true fan.

"If you really are a fan you typically take negative things said about your team personal, which is why you are labled fanatical."

This is stupid (sorry, i couldn't think of another word). There is nothing wrong with criticizing the way your team plays. We all love the Caps, and we always want them to play to their potential. So, we critique what we believe is wrong and suggest solutions. It's almost like having a teenager and wanting to see them succeed. I don't see what's wrong with this.

Posted by: JD09 | October 14, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Boudreau "I was pissed off at a couple of guys," he said. "They've got to work harder. I was always taught ... it is not like a tap -- you can't just turn it on and off. You create the habits that you do. If you have a bad work day here, then it is going to start off as a bad work day tomorrow. You have to have the good habits of working hard all the time. The practices become shorter as the year goes on, but still the work ethic should be at a high level. When it's not, I get mad at people."


so lets see, the coach himself feels his players aren't displaying a strong "WORK ETHIC". Didn't a coupla folks on here dispute the whole work ethic argument just yesterday? Vindication! lol

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

@_stevo

I agree. I really like Sloan and believe that he has a lot of potential. He's also tough and is not afraid to make big hits.

Remember his first game last year?? He crushed someone, but I don't remember who. It was a monster hit that started a scrum.

Posted by: JD09 | October 14, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

This is stupid (sorry, i couldn't think of another word). There is nothing wrong with criticizing the way your team plays. We all love the Caps, and we always want them to play to their potential. So, we critique what we believe is wrong and suggest solutions. It's almost like having a teenager and wanting to see them succeed. I don't see what's wrong with this.


Posted by: JD09 | October 14, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

don't you get it JD? You're not a true fan unless you fit into LeftCoast and Fanock's cookie-cutter template of what a fan should be. That is, keep your mouth shut and just watch the game for entertainment's sake (even if you don't find an aspect or two particularly entertaining).

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Remember his first game last year?? He crushed someone, but I don't remember who. It was a monster hit that started a scrum.

Posted by: JD09 | October 14, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

he ripped up Daymond Langkow on that hit and then got jumped by someone that gave us a 7 min PP. Unfortunately, he didn't do anything after that in the rest of his time up here.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

JD09:
I remember that hit - it was a thing of beauty!

Posted by: Boo- | October 14, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@JD09

yeah that kinda why i want slaon to play. i think it was tanguay that he crushed last year. then he proceeded to get jumped by rene bourque ( who received like 17 minutes in penalties) which if i remember correctly we didnt scored on

Posted by: _stevo | October 14, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Geez... can't we all just get along??

As for the line combos, I'm curious to see how those work out, but I hope Ovechkin and Backstrom aren't separated for long. When they're clicking, it just doesn't get more exciting than that. Hopefully they'll get a chance soon to recapture whatever it was they had during those first two games.

Posted by: hillg | October 14, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1:
i'm not taking offense - but i do watch the caps just for the entertainment.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 14, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

This blog is reminding me of the Helsinki incident in 1919, and we allknow how that turned out.

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | October 14, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to those of you who have reminded me why I had stopped reading the comments on Caps Insider. And why I decided not to have kids.

Posted by: CapsChick | October 14, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzi5ckee9kA

langkow, not tanguay

It was a fitting hit considering it came against the Flames and it looks like most of Dion Phaneuf's hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbRt-g6fhuA&feature=fvw

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

cstanton1:
i'm not taking offense - but i do watch the caps just for the entertainment.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 14, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

in a matter of speaking, we all watch it for entertainment. But for some of us, its not as entertaining when the Caps display a less than stellar work ethic or we see certain players slacking off or being prima donna-esque. Its all about standards I guess.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

This blog went downhill fast. You all need to chill out, go have a beer conference or something.

Posted by: snakegriffin | October 14, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

CapsChick:
Haha! Why do you think I've been away for so long? ;-) Tarik's coverage is still the best but ... well let's just say it's good to see that some of the ol' gang is still here.

Posted by: Boo- | October 14, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

its alright now, the kids went to bed.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

cadlecreek1:
nice dodgeball reference

CapsChick:
don't let this board be the deciding factor on having kids - remember - as a parent you get to be owner, gm and coach! although i think society frowns on trading children

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | October 14, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

All right back to some hockey talk. I was at the game Monday night, seats were in the corner low so only saw a portion of the ice clearly, My point, I think Backstrom has gotten a lot stronger this year, he seems to be able to "block out" opposing players when he had the puck. Any one agree or disagree who had better views????

Posted by: billd2 | October 14, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Even those this was one big hit, it is something we remember. This is what our d needs to become. We need to intimidate and have the opposing forwards shake in their skates as they come down the ice. Think of when we play teams like the Bruins and Flyers. All you hear about is how big and tough Chara, or Pronger, is. You don't hear things like this on the other end. We have the size, but not th toughness on the back end. Our biggest hitter is also our best goal scorer.

Right now, teams think they can pitch tents in front of theo and heat up s'mores while waiting for a pass.

Posted by: JD09 | October 14, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Even *though* this was one big hit, it is something we remember.

Posted by: JD09 | October 14, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

@billd2 - Yes, I agree. I've noticed that Backstrom seems to be stronger and more willing to throw his weight around. I'm not sure, but didn't he check Chara pretty hard in the Boston game?

Posted by: hillg | October 14, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

smores are delicious

Posted by: cadlecreek1 | October 14, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else want Nyls out there tomorrow night besides me? besides me? I thought he looked great out there today. Let's use him, he's in his best shape he's ever been in.

Posted by: hockymn22 | October 14, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

@billd2

I agree and have noticed the last few games. My favorite was the hit on Hartnell. That was a thing of beauty.

Besides the hits, he's showing more of a physical presence all around. Loving it.

Posted by: JD09 | October 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

LET NYLANDER PLAY!

Posted by: puckman | October 14, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

just realized that both the skins and caps have #92's who arent worth their salary. i'll bet nylander wont need oxygen after taking one shift though...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 14, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Hard to see what all Haynesworth does for the Skins...teams constantly run away from him now after he's helped stuff a lot of short yardage stuff they tried to run up the middle against him.

Recovered a fumble last game, has a sack, and is also creating a lot of room on the outside for Carter and Orakpo who have 6 sacks combined already.

The real kicker is the Titans who had one of the best defenses in the league last year returning 10 of 11 starters (Haynesworth) and suddenly can't stop anyone.

Sit Nylander, don't trade Semin. You'd never get enough value to equal what we'd be giving up. For all of his bad habits, he doesn't get as much credit for some of the good things he does. I still like him getting some time on the PK.

Posted by: Davethecapsfan | October 14, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

after all that's happened, i feel like putting nylander into the lineup in the midst of a losing skid would make it seem like BB was hitting the panic button, which is certainly not a good idea at this early stage in the season

Posted by: nwilson2 | October 14, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid I must respectfully disagree on what constitues a "troll".

To me, a troll is not necessarily someone who has a running feud with another poster. Rather, it is one who makes snarky comments to the community **at large** hoping to get a rise out of someone and derail the general discussion; also, someone who is constantly making negative comments about the team--not from a critical or analytical viewpoint (however flawed said analysis **might** be)--but "just because".

In that category I would include:

--Cheef ("You all suck for not hating on GMGM, b/c he won't trade the whole team and fire the coach...the Caps will always lose...blah, blah, blah")

--Puckguru (frequently referring to itself in the third person, blah, blah, blah)

--SC1907 ("The Caps will NEVER win the cup until they have..."blah, blah, blah)

--Windjammer ("Are you ready for the ## game salute..."blah, blah, blah)

((polishes anti-troll flamethrower, but does not ignite it just yet))

With that said, I would NOT be inclined place Lefty or IRTR or cstanton1 or others in the "troll" category: even though we may disagree with one another from time to time, it is what it is.

Still, it is both mildly amusing **and** a little sad to witness the ad hominem attacks that emerge when things aren't going well for our team.

Which reminds me: where ARE Cheef et al.? I need some target practice...

Posted by: Rhino40 | October 14, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Nylander to Leafs for Kaberle is getting a lot of whispers

Posted by: lylewimbledon | October 14, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Rhino40. I've never been seen as a troll. I don't think any fan, by any definition, has a right to bad mouth a team or player they support and then when faced with people who disagree or dislike what they're saying or doing, feel the need degrade them to the point of trying to run them out of a public message board. It's annoying reading what is supposed to be critical analyses mixed with a heavy dose of arrogance. Again, I think other people have assessed what the Capitals could improve upon with less arrogance. I don't think the Capitals are perfect, nor do I stand by and wear women's clothing and cheer them on with rose-colored glasses, nor do I ignore that we've been on a losing streak but go figure - unless I've got the ears of McPhee, Boudreau, or Leonsis, my crying to trade Semin or Nylander or Green on this message board is as useful as talking to a wall. 'nuff said.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | October 14, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

LeftCoast: Thanks, Rhino40. I've never been seen as a troll. I don't think any fan, by any definition, has a right to bad mouth a team or player they support and then when faced with people who disagree or dislike what they're saying or doing, feel the need degrade them to the point of trying to run them out of a public message board. It's annoying reading what is supposed to be critical analyses mixed with a heavy dose of arrogance. Again, I think other people have assessed what the Capitals could improve upon with less arrogance

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err you missed the point. He was explaining to YOU what a troll is since you decided to drop that tag on me. And since you clearly don't understand what a troll is.

As to your comment about arrogance, you're the one who tries to define what a true fan is or isn't. The rest of us are just discussing hockey.

Posted by: cstanton1 | October 14, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

@Betteroffwithfederov: thank you for the response on Nylander and my (mis?)perception of his speed. I guess that at this point, he is not getting played because he might get hurt and thus wreck any chances of trading him away this season. I was thinking it would be nice just to see what he could do, and another poster made the point that it might look like BB is hitting the panic button if he puts Nyls in. Yes, with all the over-analysing that goes on, that's probably true.

Fanohock1, I hope you still are reading the blog and will chime in again when you want.

For all the fans sniping at each other on this blog, it takes two to tango. Just don't respond to insults or personal attacks. That way you save some energy and the rest of us don't have to read all the back and forths.

OTOH, it's good to have back and forth that is respectful and contributes to the hockey/Caps discussion. I enjoy reading different points of views on actual topics, but not the nyah nyah nyah stuff from anyone.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | October 14, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

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