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Fehr, Erskine Not Skating

Right wing Eric Fehr and defenseman John Erskine are among a large group of Caps not participating in today's optional practice here at KCI.

Fehr suffered an undisclosed injury in the first period of last night's game. Erskine, meantime, missed the game with an apparent leg/foot injury.

I don't see a forward from Hershey on the ice, which could mean either that Fehr's injury isn't that serious or Coach Bruce Boudreau is planning to turn to Michael Nylander. A team spokesman said Boudreau will have an update on Fehr after practice.

Alexander Semin, Alex Ovechkin, Tom Poti and Simeon Varlamov are also among the players not skating.

It's unclear if the league is taking a look at Chris Kunitz's cross check to Varlamov's chin/throat/chest. Colin Campbell only comments on disciplinary action if he suspends a player.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  May 5, 2009; 11:04 AM ET
 
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Comments

LETS GO CAPS!!!!

Posted by: mikebrady1 | May 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

What is the mood at practice today?

Posted by: uncatim | May 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Kunitz should be suspended for at least a game for such a blatant attempt to injure a clearly significant player. A deliberate cross-check to the head/neck is not something the league can condone, esp. for goalies if they are serious about cracking-down on intent-to-injure hits.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | May 5, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Please not Nylander! Call up ANYONE, but leave Nylander home where he belongs.

Posted by: majiksea | May 5, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I hope Erskine is ready for game 3. His physical presence will be appreciated. He has learned how to play in the NHL, no longer a pylon. He has really flourished this post season. I can't believe I ever doubted BB on how good JE can be. Even Flash has improved in the playoffs and Stecks, wow -- clutch player. BB knows how to evaluate talent and heart.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | May 5, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

kunitz is a chump. nice no call on that garbage ref

Posted by: _stevo | May 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I'd prefer Osala to Nylander, personally.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | May 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

JIMALLCAPS,
remember the NHL standard, no injury, no suspension. thats why brown didnt get suspended for his hit on hudler.

not sure if the NHL does this quietly, but there should at least be some sort of warning system alerting players that any more shenanigans such as this will result in a suspension. in effect, put players on notice.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | May 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

or Bourque over Nylander

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | May 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Oskar Osala would be a great call-up...GOOD JOB "JIMALLCAPS"...!!!

GO CAPS!! Section 118 Rocks the Red!!

Posted by: netminder71 | May 5, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Fellow Caps fans: If Campbell chose not to suspend Brown for his cross-check to the face of Hudler which had Hudler bleeding like a stuffed pig didn't result in a suspension, Kunitz will not get one either.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 5, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm. I can't read too much into this; I'll wait for the update before commenting. Sloan did pretty well last night, but we need someone who can and will clear the crease, because mark me, they will do again what they did to Varly last night, because it's the only way they can get anything going at all. If not Erskine, then someone who will clear the crease and clear the zone right the first time.

Posted by: kittypawz | May 5, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

they should get aucoin in there instead of nylander

Posted by: _stevo | May 5, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Yeah but the Brown hit was borderline legal, part of the up and down action on the ice (for the record, I thought it was a cheap hit). But Kunitz had no one on him, no puck near him -- he wanted to hurt Varly cuz he is a big reason the Caps are in this series. A goalie down in the butterfly is very vulnerable. No extenuating circumstances and intent to hurt, should equal 3 games in my book. That being said, no injury probably means no suspension. Kunitz is a marked man now, however, and OV will punish him, mark my words.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | May 5, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

BTW Fehr got rocked in the first.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 5, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I want Kunitz in there because he sucks and does nothing for that team.

Posted by: SA-Town | May 5, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

The NHL will suspend no one. Unless I'm wrong.

I really didn't have a big problem with the referees, but those linesman failed at the basics, such as getting the heck out of the way of the play. I counted at least 4 times when the linesman failed at that. Skate damn you!

Posted by: lornemyoung | May 5, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

brought over form last:

I thought Sloan played pretty well last night. He made some hits and that physical presence certainly helped. I think there were only a couple of plays that he looked like he was scrambling back into position.

Clearly the Pens have decided to push at Syomin and Backstrom. Orpik, he who already contributed stitches to Syomin in Game 1, was just a punk last night. The situation that led to the penalties in the first period happen right in front of my seats and Orpik just started punking at Alex until he responded. Alex gave him good shove and Orpik responded with his stick. I don't think the refs saw it (I hope) because the penalty calls on that were junk. Orpik kept at it all game.

Second, Malkin took that slapper after the whistle that clocked Backstrom. Nicky was none too happy - it was way late - and that's one of the first times I've seen him get animated. Later in the game, someone went after him again and he started responding once again. I think the Pens have sorted that they will never get at AO - emotionally - and they've decided to try to get to the next two and throw them off their game.

Anyone have an opinion on that?

And...is there an open spot on the bench at Mellon for AO to watch the Pens practice tomorrow morning? Hope so.

Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I agree with _stevo. CALL UP AUCOIN!!! PLEASE NO NYLANDER!!

Posted by: Thomas32 | May 5, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Colin Campbell = ostrich. Head in the sand when it comes to incidents where it's clear our players are getting taken advantage of.

With all due respect, Nylander? Slightly nervous on that one but I'll take whatever team Boudreau puts on the ice. Even if that includes Nylander. *sigh* Where's my Tums? =/

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | May 5, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Can we put Alzner in for a game and put Green on the Bench? Maybe that will get him to wake up. You guys probably wont agree with me but when you look at the replay of all the goals (3) that were scored in front of the crease who was standing there?

Greener......he's been very inaffective except for the hit on Letang.

Anyone heard if Letang is out and for how long? That would be a big loss

Posted by: CapsFan44 | May 5, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

a blatant vicious cross check when your team is down by 2 with less than a minute to go....the very definition of "message sending" and an obvious attempt to injure. Colin Campbell loses all credibility if he doesn't step up and show he has the stones to make the right call.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | May 5, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

@JIMALLCAPS: I totally agree with you on the Kunitz's intent to injure to remove Varly from the series. Not disputing that at all, and agree he should be suspended for 1 game at the VERY least. However, Campbell overlooked a much more vicious hit that was by no means borderline legal. It was called a 5 min major in the game yet Brown did not get suspended. It was a almost disturbing watching Hudler try to figure out how to pull his helmet up because I believe his helmet or visor is what caused the gash and was still embedded in his skin. Should have been at least 5.

Removing Varly from our net would undoubtedly change the entire series. The boys have confidence in him.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 5, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Can BB play M.Green a forward, and play Sloan and Alzner?

Green does not know how to play defense! His giveaways will cost this team some games.

Mike Green will be better served as a forward!

Posted by: 555Mass | May 5, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Kunitz should be suspended five games for his own personal safety.

Oneal

Posted by: TheRealOneal | May 5, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I assume we won't know this until tomorrow's skate, but I'm dying to know how Semin is feeling today. He got knocked around pretty good late in the game and was flexing his hand before coming off the ice - and then did not take another shift. The thought of losing him has tempered my celebration a bit from the big win.

Posted by: jay-17 | May 5, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Aucoin would get my vote, too. He has more speed, energy, and scoring ability than any 3/4th liner (at least before Steckel turned it on).

I'd give Aucoin a spot over Clark, too, if I could.. Clark had a couple of good shifts in game 1, but dropped off yesterday and has taken a total of, I think, 3 really bad penalties. Not doing the "C" on the chest proud.

Posted by: VladG | May 5, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Nylander suck the heart out of this team!

Posted by: majiksea | May 5, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Mike Green is a big part of the reason that we had the season we had, and are in the position we are in. The posts I've read suggesting benching him are ludicrous.

Posted by: mikebrady1 | May 5, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Petition:

Move M.Green up to a forward and keep Sloan and Alzner (in case Erskine is out).

Posted by: 555Mass | May 5, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

If Kunitz does not get suspended NHL's talk about protecting player's heads from deliberate attempts to injure are all talk. What makes this even worse is that it was on a goalie, unprovoked, the puck wasn't there, Kunitz wasn't pushed into him and it was an attempt to greatly influence the outcome of not only this game (which it almost did), but also the series.

If that was Tim Thomas in Varly's place that little punk would not have left the ice unscathed. Thomas (or Ron Hextall of old) would have chopped his head off with a goalie stick. Remember how crazy Thomas went when Avery pretended to accidentally bump his head after the whistle as he skated by. Varly should do a stick uppercut to the groin on that POS next time he gets near him.

Kunitz will forever be on my bush league list from now on. This was way worse than Avery's punch. Avery's punch wasn't gonna hurt Varly and was intended to just stir things up. Kunitz's brutal cross check was intended to injure. He put all the oomph he could muster into it. Absolute garbage!

Posted by: ranndino | May 5, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Let's keep it up in Pittsburgh! Anyone coming up for either game? I've got a standing room ticket for Game 4--I'll look for any other Red Rockers!

Was Semin hurt in the 3rd last night? Listened to Kolbe on the Internet, and he said Semin was slashed and went off the ice "distressed." We need that guy to win.

Posted by: redrocker2 | May 5, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Keep in mind, folks, that we're now down to one call-up...

Posted by: ModestProposal | May 5, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

i think green is hurt. he just doesn't look right and won't hit anyone unless he knows he can "kabong" them. it could be like last season when we found out morrison was playing with a wired shut broken jaw

Posted by: _stevo | May 5, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Colin Campbell Lost any credibility that he had a long time ago with his inconsistent suspensions. The "good" players that cross the line very rarely get punished. Wouldn't suprise me if Kunitz got nothing. Campbell is just collecting a paycheck as long as the NHL will let him

Posted by: CapsFan44 | May 5, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I think Green-Backstrom-Semin line would be upstoppable!

Ovie-Fed-Kozlov
GREEN-Backs-Semin

Posted by: 555Mass | May 5, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

What's with the Green bashing???!!!

Yesterday someone posted that the three Norris candidates, if I remember, for every 60 mins ES ice time, were on the ice for like 2.14 goals (Lidstrom), 2.16 (Green) and 2.17 (Chara).

The Green bashing has become downright stupid.

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

That was GOALS AGAINST.

ModestProposal: We went through this yesterday. Only Aucoin counted as one of the 4 call-ups. Slaon and Alzner were injury replacements for Schultz and Erskine. They don't count as part of the 4.

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

@ modestproposal

We arent down to 1 call up...Alzner and Sloan were emergency call ups due to injury so I believe they do not count against the 4 call ups. If they stay up beyond Erskine returning to the lineup then they count is my understanding of the situation.

My guess is they do stay so we are down to 2 call up since we get 4. Not sure how you got it down to 1 already.

Posted by: ThePat | May 5, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

@SombreroGuy

When did Colin Campbell have any credibility to lose? This is the same guy that didn't suspend Avery in the last round for a butt end to the face. This is just my insane irrational conspiracy thinking, but would Campbell suspend a player in the playoffs on the team he used to coach (Rangers 1994-1998) I just don't trust the man.

Posted by: lornemyoung | May 5, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

@ tominFl

wasn't Aucoin an emergency call up due to Brash's knee injury?? I could be wrong on that, but I think we are still at 4.

Posted by: ThePat | May 5, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

@modestproposal

Actually, pretty sure we still have 3 callups left. Sloan qualifies as an "emergency" callup to replace Erskine. Alzner didn't get a sweater, but even if he did he could be an emergency callup to replace Schultz. The only one we have used is for Pothier.

Posted by: mikebrady1 | May 5, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The Caps really miss Erskine. Green has got to be benched or something. He was awful last night. If you watch the Crosby highlight reel this morning, it looks like a Green low-light reel. For 2 of those 3 Crosby goals, Green is standing there looking on, not to mention the give-aways. I never thought I'd say it but I think I prefer Jeff Schultz.

Speaking of battling goalies, my vote for best ever: Billy Smith. He would break his stick over guys' bodies all the time, back when they didn't wear helmets. And he faked injuries left and right to draw penalties. He also never shook the opponents' hand when the Islanders lost a playoff game. He's just skate into the dressing room.

Posted by: KWall1 | May 5, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

@saintex: good observations on Semin and Backstrom. For sure the Pens are trying to get to anybody in the Caps Big 5, so it's good "education" for these guys.

I think Malkin will wake up in Pittsburgh. Caps will need Backstrom & Semin to step up, as well.

Posted by: VladG | May 5, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

@tom, that was me...Chara is actually 2.32. I don't think the bashing is completely wrong because based on expectations, Green has been mediocre in the playoffs. He was apparenly ill for a good bit of the first round and that had an effect on his play. But, he's had a ton of missed pucks at the point, he's not scoring (though he has some assist), and he struggled in the crease last night. There no way he should be benched or moved to forward but I think we'd like to see more out of him. I think it's a pretty fair assessment of his play.

Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time Green did his job my defending? All anyone can remember Green for is scoring goals!

Green is notorious for giveaways in the neutral zone, because he'll rush up the ice, completely forgetting his role on the team is to defend!

Not saying he is a bad player, he would be better served as a forward.

Posted by: 555Mass | May 5, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The difference between Browns hit on Hudler and Kunitzs cross check on Varly is that Kunitz obviously targeted the head while brown did not. Lucic got suspended for a cross check to the head as well.

Sombrero Guy is correct, in that it should fall under sending a message, but it's also like this: Kumitz was blatantly trying to change the goaltender dynamic, this intending to injur. Not every cross check is intent to injure. This clearly was. the sad part I'd that it's unclear wether the league is reviewing it. It should be very clear.

Posted by: oo7 | May 5, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Later in the game, someone went after him again and he started responding once again. I think the Pens have sorted that they will never get at AO - emotionally - and they've decided to try to get to the next two and throw them off their game.
Anyone have an opinion on that?Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 11:29 AM |

Heck yea - that's was the M.O. going into last night's game to run Varly & be chippy down low. Their coach said so something to the effect that we have to put the younger players in spots they haven't been in before.

Now as u say OV will laugh it off & make them pay, Syomin & Backie may not be as 'tough'. This is why you have Brash around - he neutralizes any funny business like the kunis & orpik crap.


Did any1 see the slash on Syomin's hand??

We are very aware of this & BB is already doing the Phil Jackson ref mind tricks of calling the penz out. The question is do we keep making them pay on the PP or do we retaliate.

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Bruce is planning on putting brash out there in "white face" No one would see that coming.

Posted by: superpaqman | May 5, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Versus reruns the game this afternoon at 5:00. I'm planning to DVR the last period to get a good look at the cross check to Varly. My impression last night that it was much too dangerous of a cheap shot for NHL to let it go but I want to watch it again.

Posted by: grackle5 | May 5, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The Green bashing continues to the point of incredulousness. Sure, he could be better. This is Crosby! Like him or not, he's one of the best in the world. Are Pens fans bashing Gonchar because Ovie stripped him naked on the 4th goal.

Have you bashers been watching hockey for long or did you just start last month? He's a NORRIS CANDIDATE!

Saintex: Green was bashed ALL YEAR by some in here and the numbers you posted prove they were wrong. You could have Jesus Christ in goal and if he gave up one on a bad bounce - they'd call for his head!

(Favorite bumper sticker of all time: "Jesus saves, but Espo scores on the rebound.")

4 recalls: Aucoin supposedly counted (Tarik posted this) because he was an optional call-up, after the deadline. Pothier did not because he was being activated from IR. Sloan and Alzner did not because they were emergency, injury replacements.

STGBN!

(Stop The Green Bashing Now!)

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Later in the game, someone went after him again and he started responding once again. I think the Pens have sorted that they will never get at AO - emotionally - and they've decided to try to get to the next two and throw them off their game.
Anyone have an opinion on that?Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 11:29 AM |

Heck yea - that's was the M.O. going into last night's game to run Varly & be chippy down low. Their coach said so something to the effect that we have to put the younger players in spots they haven't been in before.

Now as u say OV will laugh it off & make them pay, Syomin & Backie may not be as 'tough'. This is why you have Brash around - he neutralizes any funny business like the kunis & orpik crap.


Did any1 see the slash on Syomin's hand??

We are very aware of this & BB is already doing the Phil Jackson ref mind tricks of calling the penz out. The question is do we keep making them pay on the PP or do we retaliate.

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Crosby crying about hats being thrown:

I guess I see his point; I would want my blankee too if I had to stand there for a whole 3 minutes and watch my dreams being scooped up off the ice by the verizon crew. I'm sure Mario had to change his diaper, tuck him in bed and rock him to sleep last night.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | May 5, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I think our focus on Green can be based on some numbers that have swung the camera to him.

Using the same numbers as above, Green is at 1.66 goals against while on ice over 60 minutes and is 1.66 goals for while on ice over 60 minutes. He's the only defenseman who isn't a postive in that category. Those numbers are only for five-on-five.

For PK, Green's goals against number over 60 minutes is 7.85 and there are no other defenders over 5, aside from Schultz's one game number of nearly 18.

Only three defensemen have been on the ice for PP goals: Green, Poti, and Pothier. And Green's numbers for 60 minutes ranks third among them.

My point with the numbers is that it's his lack of scoring that's driving a lot of the questions, and rightly so. But, I don't think he's played quite as far from his regular season "defensive" skill level as we'd think, or at least I'd think.

Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Agree - call up Osala...bring up the big rig to run over some people and make them even more hurt and tired.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | May 5, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Whre's SC87? aaawww...I think we gave her a booboo. Now she doesn't want to play anymore...

Posted by: Andoy | May 5, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Is there any more info on the rumor about Brashear signing a contract with the KHL?

Posted by: chberan | May 5, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Have you bashers been watching hockey for long or did you just start last month? He's a NORRIS CANDIDATE!
Saintex: Green was bashed ALL YEAR by some in here and the numbers you posted prove they were wrong. You could have Jesus Christ in goal and if he gave up one on a bad bounce - they'd call for his head!
(Stop The Green Bashing Now!)
Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 12:05 PM |

Totally agree the Green bashing comes from nitwit noobies.
Esp. when these twits don't even know how to skate. LOL!

I have to agree now when opposing fans calls us Washington fans front running bandwagoners.

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Not meant for you Saintex

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

tominfl, I agree with you. The numbers over the season didn't bear out the Green bashers and that's why I used them. Especially when you consider that Chara had the lockdown goalie all year and the Bs defense was so "inpenetrable" - Chara numbers make his defense - as a team member on the ice - not look so good. Both Green and Lidstrom were in front of questionable goaltenders all year and still the team, with them on the ice, was better.

Green's style is way different than both of the other nominees and that probably won't change. Sometimes we may not like "how" he does it but it somehow gets done.

Just to add to those numbers - and to show his overall value - the goals for each over 60 minutes while on the ice (just 5-on-5) are:

Green 3.57
Lidstrom 3.34
Chara 2.93

Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I think Malkin has hacked 555Mass' account and is posting incognito. Notice the grammar and overuse of the exclamation point. Its the only explanation I tell you....


Psst - 555Mass... Its a joke!

Posted by: jdhoover | May 5, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

and lastly, goals for while on ice over 60 minutes on the PP:

Green 10.54
Lidstrom 9.78
Chara 7.16

That's all.

Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

@Rocc, none taken.

Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

We need Erskine back because Cindy is standing around in the crease eating a sandwich and nobody is doing anything about it. Our D has size but they are not using it. Don't understand.

Posted by: washingtonpost31 | May 5, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

We will need to win games with room to spare. It should be expected that there will be bad calls (look at that ridiculous interference called on Poti for barely bumping Crosby.) It's all to keep this series tight. Caps will need to win with flying colors and thats just the way it's going to be. Keep battling boys!

Posted by: cappies | May 5, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

The NHL won't suspend Kunitz, ebcause, just like Brown's hit on hudler, they don't dare suspend a North American for a hit on a European. They just won't do it.

I think it should surprise no one, either, that Kunitz's previous team is the notriously dirty and cheat-at-all-costs Ducks.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 5, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Saintex: You and I are on the same page. When you add the offense and defense together, the numbers you posted, Green should win the Norris. And that isn't even counting the extra value for leader in PP goals.

My rants are directed at the "bench Green for my little sister" and "move Green to forward" crowd.

He does employ a skating style that makes it look like he isn't trying - one second before he dekes and takes the puck past the defender. One thing's for certain - BB is an excellent coach and he keeps putting Green out there.

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

@vlad, Malkin better keep his head up - didn't we see him get clobbered on the Flordia (?) game. AO reintroduced himself to Geno on that crush into the boards in the third period.

I know that Nicky and Malkin's lines will line up, in general, during the game, but I'd want Backs out there with Malkin as much as possible. I honestly think Backs can go end-to-end in all skills levels with Malkin (I think they are close to mirror images) for the most part. I think that will neutralize #71.

Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

SC87 is counting his/her losses :) A lot of people had their money on Pitts in first two games.

If Fehr isn't able to play, than time for another AHL call-up. Nyls is not a good idea because he will add more giveaways.

Posted by: Hazz | May 5, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Just to add to those numbers - and to show his overall value - the goals for each over 60 minutes while on the ice (just 5-on-5) are:
Green 3.57
Lidstrom 3.34
Chara 2.93
Posted by: saintex | May 5, 2009 12:19 PM |

Saintex - this just adds to my defense of Greenie - that he plays the Paul Coffey game. Best defense is a good offense.
And we know how many Norris Mr. Coffey won.

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Any chants for a Malkin hart now?!

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

If Fehr can't play, Aucoin is an obvious choice. He played instead of Nylander, when BB had an option, late in the season. Bourque also a good choice. We could use a bit more pestiness as the Playoffs continue. Aucoin, too, has extensive minor league experience ala Sloan, who picked up right where he left off earlier.

Six down, ten to go.

Will be interesting what happens with Nylander and Theo in the offseason.

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

@randinno

good analysis. Great pic of Orpik giving Syoma a facewash. Now, BB was pissed (interviewed from the bench right after Clark took the penalty in first) because Semin retaliated, costing caps a PP. But the ref never would've have called the roughing on Orpik if Semin hadn't retaliated, so that one didn't signify.

Ovie has a lot of garbage to take out now; I'd prefer he worry more about goals and defense but if I were Orpik and Kunitz I'd keep my eyes wide open when #8 is on the ice tomo. He doesn't take kindly to mistreatment of his pals. (But, in fairness, Caps aren't playing "nice" with Malkin or Crosby either...)

Posted by: WritingLight | May 5, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

wow. yea, let's put green, top D man in the league, as a forward. great idea. better yet, lets have Varly take ovie's spot on the point, jurcina will take goal and slapshot will take D.

what's interesting/horrifying to me is that pens fans aren't saying malkin should be benched because they realize that even though he's having a rough time, that idea is totally preposterous. please caps fans, lets not make the pens fans look sane by throwing out half-cocked theories on how to run the team. ya'll aren't bruce for a reason.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 5, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

If Aucoin comes up and Nylander is a healthy scratch Aucoin will not be an emergency call-up. Think about this...everyone is concerned about Nylander's salary, what if, just what if, he is plugged in and produces for the remainder of the playoffs? He would be marketable as a veteran playoff producer and we might be able to deal him off to say a Western Conference contender next year. He certainly cannot be as invinsible as Fehr has been. Let's face it, he has been terrible the entire post-season. We don't have much to lose because Fehr's mins have been low because of his poor play and if Nylander plays poorly he'll simply be playing the Fehr minutes. I am in the minority though. I think Nylander is a great talent that has not been given much of a 1st or 2nd line chance under BB. He's not a goal scorer, he's a playmaker. He hasn't played much at all with our goalscorers.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 5, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

please caps fans, lets not make the pens fans look sane by throwing out half-cocked theories on how to run the team. ya'll aren't bruce for a reason.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 5, 2009 12:45 PM


So, you're saying my idea to have Theodore start Game 3 should never see the light of day?

Posted by: LouLewis | May 5, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

LouLewis

hahahhahahaha

exactly.

Posted by: mrszilla | May 5, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

@LouLewis: Why would BB start Theo in game 3? If he was to even romotely consider starting Theo, it might be in game 4 since game 4 and 5 are Fri and Sat.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 5, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Riight. Green's been awesome in the playoffs and anyone who hasn't noticed it Doesn't Get Hockey.
Hey Ovi-Wan: If Crosby did to Schultz what he did to Green -twice- last night, what would you say? 52's not producing 'one-man breakouts'; he's not a routine offensive threat; defensively he's been...ordinary, when he's not getting smoked.
Green's not himself lately, anywhere on the ice. That's not a bash, but a fact.

Posted by: redlineblue | May 5, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

DISRESPECT BELOW:

cindy re: OV's goal
"When it comes down to it they got a big goal there on the power play when it counted, and that's the difference. I don't see anything else but that."


cindy re: Varly's play

"I mean, yeah, he's made some timely saves," Crosby said. "I still think we can do a better job of burying the puck and capitalizing on our chances. The difference is a few inches, but he battles and he competes, and there's times where he's out of position but he finds a way to get a piece of his body on it.

Just wanted to know cindy - what the hell hockey or for that matter sports is all about? If not for inches??

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1: I really think they can call up Aucoin as an "emergency" to replace Fehr. I'm not sure Nylander as healthy scratch has anything to do with it. Tarik posted yesterday that Sloan and Alzner came up to replace Erskine and Schultz as emergencies, and din't count against the 4 call-ups. It was never said, as a for instance, that had Alzner played, and say if Pothier had been a healthy scratch as a consequence, that Alzner would have then counted as one of the 4.

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying Green's been stellar... but seriously having a conversation about putting him as a forward is something that should be reserved for crackheads in the privacy of their own homes, not an actually discussion about our team.

And I'm hoping LouLewis was being sarcastic, that's how I took it....

Posted by: mrszilla | May 5, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe its just me, but I hope Nyls IS in the lineup instead of Fehr. Even if Nyls has no points for the game - if he has the puck for long periods of time stickhandling, that means the Pens do not. He usually has a decent game against them.

Posted by: Grape8 | May 5, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Erkine and Schultz are rostered defensemen that are injured, thus we did not have a 6th or 7th defenseman. We have a healthy forward on the shelf. Aucoin cannot be called an emergency replacement for Fehr when Nylander is available.

BTW I am as annoyed with the Green bashing as you and Rock00.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 5, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

@KWall.. could you imagine if Kunitz had done that to Billy Smith (or better, Ron Hextall)? After the game ended, Kunitz would be bleeding on the ice after either of them took care of the "suspension" issue...

Posted by: MikeL-Caps91 | May 5, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the "send a message rule" that they are cracking down so hard on. It appeared to me that was what Kunitz was trying to do. The only way Pittsburgh is going to get back in this series is to pull a Tonya Harding on our best players.

He should be suspended there is no room for that type of unsportsmanlike conduct in hockey.

Posted by: us11231 | May 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

What Green bashing? I thought Green looked good. Some solid defensive plays, very cool on a loose puck and a gaping net and his usual offensive game.

The weak defenseman, not surprisngly, was Sloan. He looked god-awful in the first and I started to wonder if we would be getting a regualr shift. But, by the time the third rolled around and I got another look (I sit on the end we defend twice), he had calmed down. I'll write that off to nerves, I think he's generally a perfectly fine defenseman.

Posted by: oldtimehockey | May 5, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

On the DC SportBog, there are already threats by penz fanatics of a bounty on OV's head.

Funny thing is that's sign of a dsperate team & fan base.

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I am not a proponent of violence in hockey. I like to watch skilled players, not fights. In college hockey, fighting is virtually nonexistent, and I don't think it makes the game any less entertaining.

However, if Kunitz is not suspended, I am in favor of the Caps' using any means necessary to remove his cheap, dirty a** from the game before he has a chance to injure somebody significant. Since Brash is suspended, I propose using one of our remaining call-ups on somebody big and expendable to chase Kunitz down and pummel his head for a few minutes.

(Note: I'm not seriously advocating that the Caps follow the above strategy, but it's an enjoyable revenge fantasy.)

Posted by: christiansonm | May 5, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Foregt about Green as a forward...bench him for a game, since he has yet to show up in the playoffs.

He should grow up and get rid of that dufuss Mowhawk and focus on being the Mike Green he was during the season...6 give aways in the last 2 games and he just about gave the game away last night if not for OV and Varly and others.

Erskine has stepped up big time while Green has fallen down and to me he's been by far the biggest dissapointment of the last 9 games.

Posted by: capper3 | May 5, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

On the DC SportBog, there are already threats by penz fanatics of a bounty on OV's head.

Funny thing is that's sign of a dsperate team & fan base.

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 5, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Until Clint Eastwood comes riding in on a horse, I'm not gonna worry.

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

And I -am- serious when I say that if the NHL doesn't do something about that garbage, the Caps should.

Posted by: christiansonm | May 5, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

@oldtimehockey: Hockey experts on these boards have suggested everything from Green be moved to forward to benched and have Alzner play in his spot. Rediculous.

@Rocc00: Ovi's had a bounty on his head since his rookie season, I know you know that. All I have to say is if someone takes a cheap shot at Ovi and he is laying on the ice I better see the other 4 skaters turn it into old time hockey and beat the crap out of everyone in a Pens jersey. I hate the way Cooke and Kunitz take liberties on Ovi. Ovi can handle himself and had a nice message for Kunitz near the end of the 1st. Again though, if a cheap shot results in Ovi laying on the ice, I don't care if we end up down 5 on 3 killing a pair of 5 minute majors, the other boys better step up for him.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 5, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

It's late at practice. The other players have left the rink for the locker room. One player remains, firing pucks into the empty net. A stranger ambles onto the ice from the visitor's bench. Dressed in a wide, flat cowboy hat, a poncho and boots, he is somewhat out of place on the ice. The stranger approaches the player and unfurls a yellow piece of parchment, then points to the face on the paper.

Stranger: "Looks kinda like you."

Ovie: "Might be. Are you the bounty hunter?"

Stranger: "Might be."

Ovie: "I'm ready."

Stranger: "When a man with a pistol and a man with a hockey stick have a shoot-out, the man with the pistol usually wins."

The stranger tosses back his poncho to reveal a colt pistol. Ovie though fires a blistering slapshot that knocks the gun away as it's being unholstered. The stranger flinches and grabs his wrist.

Ovie: "Go back to Pittsburgh before I really get mad."

Posted by: tominfl1 | May 5, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

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