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Flyers 4, Caps 2

The Capitals saw their 13-game winning streak over Eastern Conference opponents at home come to an end tonight against the Flyers, and fell to nine points behind Boston, who defeated Florida 6-1.

For the second straight game the Caps were called for nine penalties and they've been whistled for at least eight in three of the past five contests. It's a bad habit they seem to have fallen into.

"There comes a time when you have to start doing something" Bruce Boudreau said about what may have become a penalty epidemic. When asked whether that meant cutting ice time or benching players he said both.

"This is the new NHL. They want to limit the obstruction and we just seem to take lazy, undisciplined sometimes they can be criticized as selfish penalties," Brooks Laich said. "Every game we shoot the puck in our zone over the glass we've got to limit that. I don't know, it's got to stop."

Just as crucial as the high number of penalties though, was the large number of missed chances Washington had early on in the game when they held a one or two goal lead. Several players failed to convert on breakaways and by the end of the game the Caps had 22 shots miss the net.

The longer the Capitals failed to convert after their first two goals, the more momentum shifted in Philadelphia's favor.

"I think that was the theme of the whole night, not cashing in on chances," Boudreau said. "You have five or six breakaways, I don't know if we hit the net on any. Brooks Laich might have hit the net on his and everybody else missed the net. If you don't score when you have the opportunities to, eventually those opportunities dry up and the other team gets opportunities. That was pretty evident."

On to the rest of tonight's notes and quotes...

*The Flyers scored three goals on five shots in 3 minutes and 19 seconds in the third period. The Caps have allowed eight third-period goals to the Flyers this season, more than any other team they've faced.

But what really allowed Philadelphia a chance to stay in the game, was Washington's inability to convert on many scoring chances.

"When it was 1-0, 2-0 if we can get that third one maybe set them back a little bit," Laich said. "I had one of the breakaways myself. We're trying to score, it's not like we weren't trying to score. (Antero Niittymaki) made some good saves, good goaltenders do that. I thought Jose (Theodore) made some great saves for us that kept us in it."

*Philadelphia is one of two teams in the Eastern Conference that the Capitals don't have a winning record against. The other is Atlanta, who comes to town Thursday. Washington's pair of losses to Atlantic Division teams both came against the Flyers.

*There was a definite momentum shift in the third period, but Boudreau didn't like a question that implied that his team didn't "fight" after the Flyers scored to tie the game.

"I don't like the word fight," Boudreau said. "That implies that we quit. We didn't quit. When you get energy from a goal in the third period your team comes on. It's an emotional game. Instead of getting back to the basics...doing the things that made us successful, everybody wanted to do it themselves and we started cheating. When you start cheating bad things happen, you start taking bad and stupid penalties. That's not losing fight that's playing stupid."

*Among the rash penalties that Boudreau singled out was Eric Fehr's slashing call that came with 2:59 remaining in regulation. Fehr's penalty, Boudreau said, was a prime example of the Capitals inability to control their emotion.

"One of the keys to tonight's game was controlled emotion," Boudreau said. "I think we got too involved with what they were doing rather than what we have to do."

*Arron Asham scored his goal, which made the score 4-2, on his line's first and only shift in the third period during a delayed penalty call. It was just his second shift of the period.

*Tonight was defenseman Tom Poti's 700th NHL game. He was a minus-1.

*Nicklas Backstrom extended his point streak to seven games and now has 17 points (4G, 13A) in his past 12 games.

*The Caps penalty kill was 7-for-8 and are now 57-for-67 or 85 percent in the past 12 games.

*Some quick Hershey news as goaltender Simeon Varlamov was back on the ice in practice today after being out of the lineup since Jan. 14 with a knee injury.

*I'll leave the closing thoughts to Brooks Laich, who was blunt in his assessment of what the team needs to do to quell the number of (insert negative adjective here) penalties.

"It's up to the individual," Laich said. "Either a guy is going to want to move his feet and keep his stick off the other guy or he's not gonna. We're all grown adults here. We're not going to set up a system to fine guys or anything like that if they take a penalty."

"Things happen in a hockey game," Laich continued, "but we have to understand that sometimes you're going to have to take a punch in the face, you're going to have to sacrifice for the better of the team. Especially with the last 21 games of the season and heading into the playoffs. Those are the things that can win a series and we have to be better at it."

By Katie Carrera  |  February 24, 2009; 11:04 PM ET
 
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good game.

Posted by: richmondphil | February 24, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Brooksy...couldn't have said it better. Too many PIMs are killing us. We have to stop that before April.

Posted by: ralCapsFan | February 24, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

WJS:
21 games to go - sure wish i knew what the stretch run looked like.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 24, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

I was down near the ice for tonight's game, first time all season. I saw some interesting things. One, the Flyers did a great job of keeping the puck between their skates, making it hard for Caps players to get at the puck while flying by at top speed. Two, the Caps gave up way too much room between the defensmen. They didn't collapse around the net while the flyers did and that kept the puck from getting to the net. They also left the high slot open too often, allowing the Flyers to get good positioning.

Nylander is on the top line because he's being shopped; thats all I can think of because otherwise he;s useless there.

The penalties are ridiculous. I told my companion that the caps were good for at least on delay of game every night. That was right after the Flyers delay of game. Soon, the Caps did it as well. That has got to stop. Just make the safe play, stop trying to bank it off the glass. These guys have too much cirve on their sticks to do it. No more, demmit!

I hate Hartnell.

The Flyers are a big, physical team. They play physical and neutralize the skill. Caps aren't being pushovers, they just aren't crushing anyone in the crease.

The D just can't let guys skate around them all the time. That has to stop. Everyone is trying to be Nick Lidstrom.

The fact of the matter is, this defense is just not up to snuff for a deep playoff run. Simple as that.

I hate the Flyers. That said, they could easily end up in the conference finals.

ugh.

Posted by: oo7 | February 24, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to decide if scarletcaps.com is a pass or fail. On one hand, its great that they're trying even harder to reach out to female fans beyond Hockey n Heels, but I'm not sure its the best effort.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | February 24, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Disasterous third. The penalties and missed chances just continue to plague this team. It is an issue that will not serve us well in the play-offs if it continues. How many door-step chances are we going to screw up on? Another note is the Brash non-factor. Why do we keep an enforcer on the team when he doesn't enforce? Backstom has been more physical than him for pete's sake! Bring up a guy like Mink from Hershey because he will fight and actually have some offensive ability...

Posted by: Bongos | February 24, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I trust GMGM is going to bring in some toughness at the trade deadline next week. He's not dumb, he knows what we need. I hope and pray somebody will be dumb enough to take Nylander off our hands. Hopefully Schultz will be included in some trade as well.

Posted by: VegasCapsFan | February 24, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Confronting Semin in front of the team about "lazy"/"selfish" penalties appears to have been something he could take like a man as his stats haven't been hurt. But was it 3 out of 4 interviews I've seen by coaches and players that mentioned the delay-of-game penalty in the 2nd (that helped the Flyers get their first goal).

It would be wrong to hang the loss on Semin, or make him feel it's any more his fault than anyone elses (scapegoat for some). He didn't leave Jose out to dry and he had the second most SOG on the team.

The wheels didn't come off til the middle of the 3rd best I can tell.

Posted by: austinsteve | February 24, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Tarik or Katie, whoever is at practice tomorrow.

Please ask this tough question directly to Coach Boudreau.

"Why does Michael Nylander continue to get a jersey each game?"

Every game he is in the lineup, we are playing a forward short, and this cannot continue.

Posted by: writered21 | February 24, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

"When you start cheating bad things happen, you start taking bad and stupid penalties. That's not losing fight that's playing stupid."

So by inference, because they played stupid on Sunday, and nobody was talking about it then?

Oh wait...

Posted by: Section117 | February 24, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Bongos:
i think BB keeps brash out there to keep the other teams in check. BB doesn't like stupid penalties so he's not going to send him out to pick a fight - but his presence will keep the other team in check. he is not a great skater or puck handler but he plays as hard as he can every shift. i like brash and his role on the team. if he could play D you better believe NO ONE would camp in front of the net

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 24, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

@The fact of the matter is, this defense is just not up to snuff for a deep playoff run. Simple as that.

Dude...couldn't state it any better. We need more physicality (sp) on the D line. Period!

Posted by: ralCapsFan | February 24, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Cap'n-
I have been a big Brash fan for years and I know that BB's changed his role quite a bit. All I am saying is that teams aren't showing the respect of old to him. Look back to the past few Rangers and Flyers games that we've lost. Guys take runs at our players and he sits back and does nothing. Then at the next match-up he takes a stupid penalty or picks a bad fight. I think a younger energy guy or physical vet is better served with his salary than he is. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Bongos | February 24, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

jmu_capsgirl:
wow - mo just taught me all about the hockey stick - my estrogen is flowing now.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 24, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Opps...previous copied remark goes to oo7...sorry

Posted by: ralCapsFan | February 24, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Its been said before, but Laich will make a great captain and coach someday. He impresses the hell out of me--he seems intelligent and well spoken and works his tail off for the good of the team. Gotta respect the folks from Saskatchewan. They know how to raise their kids; I've never met one that wasn't just plain "good people".

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | February 24, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow - when are the Caps going to have consistency? It's one thing to lose a game where you did most things right and it's another thing when you throw away your game plan with 15 minutes left in the game. The D has to start taking the body and stop swiping at the puck as the opponent skates over the blue line. Where's Langway, Stevens, Tinordi and Iafrate when you need them?

I saw Schultz on the way home after the game. He looked like this picture but with his #55 Cap jersey on.
http://www.transafeproducts.com/trafficcontrol.html

Jeff was on the ice for the last 2 goals. I swear to you, this traffic barrel with a #55 Cap Jersey on was there on the ice because the Flyers skated around him twice without being touched by this barrel.

I'm not trying to bash him but what's his upside? No offensive skills, no defensive skills (e.g. the traffic barrel), slow skater. At 6'5", why can't he put his body on anyone? Yes, he got credit for 2 hits but they must of been when a Flyer accidentally brushed into him! Okay, the Pitt game he had a couple of good hits but then a blind squirrel finds a acorn now and then.

ShaMo, at 1.95 mil, his days are numbered here. Don't look for him to be resigned after this year.

Posted by: puckman | February 24, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Bongos:
for his salary and what he's producing - i agree. if we have a younger less expensive version of brash, that's ready to play now, then bring him on. how many more ahl'ers does mink need under his fist befores he's ready?

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 24, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Capt_Kirk_in_AZ, Its awful. I hate it. Make it go away! My roommate was laughing hysterically over the "Meet the Players" part. I believe one of her comments was something along the lines of, "Aren't there supposed to be stats or something? Besides the stat of how many times they've been on the cover of 'The Hockey News'?"
Actually, the funnier "stick" video is the one Brooks did. I'm a hockey fan, but even I had a hard time controlling the giggles.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | February 24, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey...does anyone know...I did not see either the lumberjack Erskine (10) or Juice(9) on the ice in the 3rd but not sure...was BB starting the penalty of benching for STUPID PIMs? Hopefully

Posted by: ralCapsFan | February 25, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Can we get Matt Cooke back from Pittsburgh at least?

I don't like the idea of Pronger or Kaberle as much as I like the idea of Steffan's older brother Nicklas Kronwall. Rock steady D man with some grit, which is what I guess they think Steffan will be able to bring at some point. Problem is we need it now.

I went to the chalk talk tonight with GMGM and he was talking about team chemistry and how he doesn't want to break that up. I get that but can we start creating some toughness chemistry, inspire a contest to create grit then, like the hard hat, but say the best hit of the game?

These are young guys, how hard is it to get them fired up to play tough hard nosed hockey? Grit and grinding isn't far removed from the "new" NHL.

Finish with an adage I think I saw on Jaspers:
Good talent + Hard Work sometimes beats Great Talent + Hard Work
but
Good Talent + Hard Work ALWAYS beats Great Talent + Little Work

Posted by: caps28fan | February 25, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

jmu_capsgirl:
not a single lumberjack image for downloading - wtf?
i am tempted to pick up the 'petite purse' which seems to be a steal at $45
hahahahahahahaha
i think your right it's got to go - unless they decide to include a section for the caps 'spirit' squad

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 25, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

puckman

Here are two sets of stats by 2nd year 22 year old defensemen...

A - 65 GP, 2G, 9A, -27, 57PIM, 47 SOG
B - 72 GP, 5G, 13A, +12, 28PIM, 36 SOG

Now, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you have no real background or skills in evaluating hockey talent.

For example, do you know at what age a defenseman is expected to hit his prime?

Or maybe what % of 22 y/o defensmen have allstar caliber years?

Or how many 22 y/o defensemen play top 3 minutes against a teams toughest competition?

And by the way...A is Zdeno Chara and B is Jeff Schultz.

Along those same lines...Jeff Schultz is currently #14 in the NHL in +/- for dmen; the bottom 10% in PIM; leads the team in TOI/SH.

What this should tell you is that a defensemen...especially a young one...doesn't need to hit or score goals to be good.

Posted by: Yoshietree | February 25, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Yoshietree

Who is more intimidating:
A
or
B
?

Posted by: caps28fan | February 25, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

caps28fan

Now or then? And intimidating does not win hockey games. I'll take a +12 lacking intimidation over a -27 with it.

Posted by: Yoshietree | February 25, 2009 12:20 AM | Report abuse

caps28fan:
for the money i'd rather have 10 schultz (750k) than the one chara (7.5M)

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 25, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Yoshietree go ahead and play with your numbers. Schultz will never be anything like Chara. Not even close!

Chara hits like a freight train - Schultz moves like a traffic barrel.

Chara has that 104+ blister of a slap shot - Schultz has his half slapshot at 55 MPH and a flimsy wrist shot.

End of story!

Posted by: puckman | February 25, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely disgraceful performance in the 3rd period. Everyone on the team should be disgusted with themselves. Can we please get a defenseman that does SOMETHING and can clear the friggin' puck!!!?!?!? Way to let what is probably our most hated rival walk into Verizon and HUMILIATE US. Going to bed angry and extremely disappointed in my favorite sports team.

Rant complete.

Posted by: badkarma723 | February 25, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

caps28fan, et al

What people don't seem to understand...nay...what Caps fans don't seem to understand is that we are a spoiled people. We have OV, Back and to a lesser extent Green and Semin who have made an almost immediate impact at the NHL level.

Look at other players on the team and around the league...Laich, Flash...maybe Fehr all took almost 3 seasons to break out in the NHL, and they're forwards. Defense is a much much much more difficult position to learn.

Young defensemen in this league are a rarity...aside from Doughty and Pheunouf (I butchered both their names), not too many come to mind. Wideman is having a breakout year for Boston, but he's what...almost 26.

Let me say it again, Schultz is 22. He hasn't filled out yet. He's slowly learning how to hit (he already has more this year than last). Positioning must come first for dmen.

You can see he's close to breaking out in a serious way...the same way some of us saw Flash breaking out last year. Developing players, especially dmen takes time...be thankful that he's second on the team behind Green (for d) in +/- and give him some breathing room.

Posted by: Yoshietree | February 25, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

schultz sucks and always has sucked. too slow and soft for this league. what does gm and bruce see in this guy?

Posted by: bmilloy44 | February 25, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

puckman

Yoshietree go ahead and play with your numbers. Schultz will never be anything like Chara. Not even close!

We're back to you pretending like you have some sort of hockey background...which you don't.

Numbers is everything, especially when we're talking about a former first round pick who is 22 years old.

But since you're the end all when it comes to evaluating talent. Find me another 22 y/o that comes close to putting up his defensive numbers...not named Phaneuf.

Posted by: Yoshietree | February 25, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse

It's obvious that the penalty problem isn't going away for whatever reason. While I've thought GMGM needs to bring in 2 different things over the season (goaltender and puck moving Dman) I've now changed my mind and I think we have a much much bigger priority. That is to bring in a top PK forward or 2. I don't necessarily think it's the D that's the problem is the forwards. We need somebody the ilk of say a Peca (in his day) or a current Stephan Yelle. You need speed on the PK and Steckel is far from that and he doesn't lay down to block shots so basically if he doesn't win a faceoff we're toast. We'll need Alzner for the playoffs and the D will be good, the only thing we can do is pray Theo can hold his own and the scoring will be OK, but we're not getting out of the conference with our PK the way it is PERIOD.

Posted by: pokerface1208 | February 25, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Capt_Kirk_in_AZ, LOL, apparently he's highly underrated with the ladies! And I think that purse would look just lovely with your home red sweater, although it could certainly accessorize your away whites just as well!
As a business major, I'd like to see their sales and marketing numbers for women's apparel. You have to commend the NHL on trying really hard to promote the game to women, but, to use hockey speak, I'm not sure they even hit the post on a lot of their shots. I mean, Alyssa Milano, really? She's not exactly Elisha Cuthbert, but then again, she's also no Cammi Granato either. Maybe they'll hire me to rework their marketing to women. And maybe Bettman will finally admit to being an idiot.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | February 25, 2009 12:35 AM | Report abuse

To those of you who say it wasn't Theo's fault....Maybe it was not his fault, but it's not like we are deciding which of our screaming children should and should not be punished. He simply was not the goal tender we needed to win tonight. How many times have we lost to teams that, even though we outshoot them, are saved by spectacular goaltening? Tonight was one such case. Yes I am rooting for Theo and yes he has made huge improvements but he is one of several areas that need consistency.

I am very disappointed by the loss to the flyers.

Posted by: caraveli | February 25, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

schenn
bogosian

Posted by: richmondphil | February 25, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

i find it painfully clear that GMGM is a complete failure unless he pulls off the following by Mar 4 - the caps starting lineup against tor on Mar 5 must be:

OV / Malkin / Iginla
Parise / Datsyuk / Hossa
Vanek / Backstrom / Kessel
Kovalchuk / Thornton / Kane
Getzlaf / Zetterberg
Green / Lidstrom
Niedermayer / Pronger
Bouwmeester / Phaneuf
Markov
Brodeur / Thomas

anything less and i call for ted to just sell the team :(

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 25, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm not terribly upset over this loss. We miss Kozlov in games like this, and, despite the bad matchup, we had a chance to win the game in the 1st and 2nd periods.

We're just a finesse team - guys like Nylander and especially Flash just arent effective against teams like the Flyers, and they're not going to be. We're not going to win too many when 2 of our top 3 lines are essentially 2 man outfits.

Posted by: wahoo_Mike | February 25, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

jmu_capsgirl:
i couldn't believe that they didn't have any red pumps with a weagle on them - so disappointing

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 25, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

Well that was less than enjoyable. I bet they won't make that mistake again. They'll win Thursday and they'll beat Philly the next time they meet ... mark my words (Leeguru - that one was for you).

Posted by: --Boo-- | February 25, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Caraveli-
In no way is this game close to being Theo's fault. He was apsolutely spectacular tonight. He stopped a ton of lay-ups and doorstep shots. Where we hurt was on defense and more importantly the missed chances on offense. This game should never have come down to the third...
With regard to Shultz. I don't understand the hate. If I can single out a single defenseman that screwed the pooch tonight it was Green. But I don't think the D-men are the problem. Our forwards are too lazy to get back and give up big oppurtunites. This game is on the offense's shoulders.

Posted by: Bongos | February 25, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Boo:
words duly marked
but i'll add that they better learn how to get a tad more physical be then

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 25, 2009 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Went to the game tonight. I am a STH but will be moving to TX, thus not renewing. A couple of observations:

1. Shultz is fine as a 5-6 dman with 5-6 minutes. Problem is he is being used as top 4 and getting minutes accordingly. We need more depth at the back.

2. If we don't get some help on the back end with a tough dman, we are going nowhere in the playoffs. I will reserve the option of ordering playoff tix until after the trade deadline.

3. If Nyls will allow us to trade him, we need to make it happen.

Posted by: waitingsince75 | February 25, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

I get your points, and I do understand the development timeline of D-men, but since when does intimidation not play a factor in any sport? Surely you can't argue against that.
You don't think that going into a corner between Schultz and Chara that you know going in you have a slightly better chance of coming away with the puck against Schultz? I have seen it more times than not through the season against Schultz. I am mainly just asking for the D to develop into more physical players, safe smart plays aside, I am sick of people walking through the D.

Does he still have a lot of upside, yeah he does. But when the competition is creating space by hitting and then walk through/around you...that is a bigger problem and one they will continue to exposed.

Posted by: caps28fan | February 25, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

waitingsince75:
don't move to TX - that's just so wrong in so many ways. your so lucky to be able to see them play live at VC. i hope for your sake that GMGM can make some needed moves, without giving up the future, to give them the best possible shot at the SC this year - so you can get your playoff tix.

i feel your pain - as i clearly remember what 8-67-5, 21 means

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 25, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Kirk:
More than that ... more physical, stronger D and no more senseless penalties. Now please excuse me while I go and move the needle on this record that seems to be skipping. (Dave - or should that be pardon me? And does anyone even get the record/needle reference?)

Posted by: --Boo-- | February 25, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

boo:
you could have gone with the 8-track reference - a continual loop

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | February 25, 2009 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Kirk:
Good point ... I'd like to work beta in there but it just doesn't work. Enough of this witty banter - I'm off to zzzzzzz.

Posted by: --Boo-- | February 25, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Boo - My 8 track "tape cartridge" keeps repeating on track 3!

Maybe the next trivia question during the game should be "How many tracks are there on an 8 track tape?"

Posted by: puckman | February 25, 2009 1:27 AM | Report abuse

i've noticed it all season. the young team still lacks discipline and i said it way back in november/december. some of the guys think they're better than they are and all the celeb/contract status is getting to their heads and inflating their egos.

look at all the stupid penalties they're giving up. they'll play good when they want to, right?

they should play hard every night, not just against teams that are in playoff contention (like the loss last week).

if the guys can learn discipline, the team is going all the way. the 2nd and third period were horrible.

Posted by: MNMNT | February 25, 2009 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Caps "fans" you are idiots. Learn to appreciate a good team. They had a bad period....GET OVER IT.

Posted by: ThePhiladel | February 25, 2009 2:20 AM | Report abuse

OH and by the way YES I just stuck up for the caps and Im a Flyers fan. Dont hate the team....hate YOUR FANS. As much as you hate philly, you need to look in the mirror about fan behavior at your rink. I go to the bathroom (in a Flyers jersey) and a 12 year old punk jumps in front of me while an "adult" cheers him on and BERATES me for being punked by a 12 year old kid. I let it go and on the way out get beer poured on me!! I am LITERALLY sitting in the handicapped section and have not insulted or berated a single person all game. The people in my area were the epitome of class. The IDIOTS in the concourse that say Philly SUCKS yet committ the same IDIOTIC acts that they say they abhore about philly fans, are NO better than any fan in ANY city that commits theame act. WATCH OUT DC you are on a slippery slope.

Posted by: ThePhiladel | February 25, 2009 2:31 AM | Report abuse

@ThePhiladel: go back to your own team's message board. your team won, we get it. if you really feel the need to come on our forum and talk trash, you're pathetic.

bottom line tonight is if anyone else was playing in place of jeff "sprinkles" schultz, we would've gotten at least a point out of this game. he's a defensive turnstile. he won't/can't hit ANYONE. he doesn't even deserve to be in the AHL, much less the NHL. what the heck do BB and GMGM see in this clown?

Posted by: nwilson2 | February 25, 2009 3:55 AM | Report abuse

the scarlet caps site thing? in a word, condescending. thanks for alienating a big hunk of fan base, guys. hockey doesn't have to be covered in pink and come in a purse for women to appreciate it.

about the game-- totally fell apart in the second. what the hell happened? it was like suddenly philly exploded and went circles around our guys. penalties? sure, that contributed greatly. but it's something to do with slumping down in the second that needs looking at as well.

Posted by: spinner-33 | February 25, 2009 5:26 AM | Report abuse

okay. sorry. that sounds grumpy. i'll try to say something positive about the scarlet caps thing, so i don't seem totally dismissive.

um.... well...

the glam shots of the guys are much appreciated. there. that's the nicest thing i can think of to say.

and i wonder if mixing cocktails and hockey is a good idea. hard to drink from a martini glass when you're wearing a visor and mouth guard, i imagine.

Posted by: spinner-33 | February 25, 2009 5:55 AM | Report abuse

Some food for thought on #55 D and +/-. Alot depends on what line you play on, and 55 plays on the top line with Ovi et al. Could his +/- be more guilt by association than actual skill?

How many assists does he have in setting up a play?

Last couple games, ole Jeffy had Greenie wide open across the ice and yet insisted on passing up the side to Brash or others who were going to be trapped, coughed up the puck resulting in a goal. It's like when he's paired with Green, Green becomes invisible.

Or maybe I was watching a Lightning game?

Posted by: dogdaze | February 25, 2009 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Games like this remind the Caps (and fans) that there are still some things that need to be addressed before the playoffs.

Either kill the penalties or quit taking so many.

A hockey game is 60 minutes. They didn't play with the same intensity and let the momentum shift to the other team.

The goalie needs to recover better.

Gap control needs to improve.

They need to capitalize on their opportunities. At least get a shot on goal.

Posted by: BetterOffWithFederov | February 25, 2009 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Flyer Fan here....I thought it was a good game. If we had lost I would have thought the same. Good tempo, lots of scoring chances (35+), plenty of hitting and skill were displayed.
Since I watch nearly every game the Flyers play, perhaps a little insight should be shown as to the scoring.
The Flyers can and do score in bunches. If you look at the stats 20+ goal scorers are abundant and Nits is a pretty good goalie.
The Flyers when in full flow will make any D look bad for stretches. Carter was second in the speed skating exhibition at the All-Star competition. He's not even the fastest guy on the team.
We also caught breaks (Timmonnen's absent was obvious.) when we were short-handed and your guys fell short on their opportunities.
For the Brashear bashers, Many of our fans miss his whoop-butt ability. He's a legitimate enforcer who plays hard (though no Gretzky). Besides he owns a Lambo and cuts a good sartorial figure. He's a good guy and excellent in the locker room. Cut him some slack.
None the less, we'll take the points. It was gratifying to disappoint ya'all.
Hope to see you in the ECFs.

Posted by: bohnerdennis | February 25, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

All I'm saying is that I hope everyone one of the back seat GMs on this site are ready to put their feet in their mouth next year when he breaks out. I have yet to see any of you filled with ignorance admit you were wrong about Flash.

I'll stick to the sites with some resemblance of hockey knowledge.

Posted by: Yoshietree | February 25, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Shultz was horrible all game. He couldn't clear the puck, was afraid to make contact, and constantly playing catch up as forwards went by him. The game is too fast for him. He needs to be sent to Hersey. Schultz is no better than Collins, Helmer, or Sloan out there. He is horrible.

If we are going to have any chance in the playoffs Schultz can't be on the ice 20 minutes a game like he was last night.

Posted by: auntbea2 | February 25, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Well GMGM better bring in a big D man or its first round and out again.

Posted by: CalleJo | February 25, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I don't know why everyone is alwasy on Shultz he is one of our better D sure he is not physical but he is in position 95% of the time which is more than can be said for Erskine.

Posted by: CalleJo | February 25, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Observations:

1) stop with the Brash bashing. it is ridiculous.

2) stop with the stupid penalties.

3) on breakaways, go to the net and SHOOT. i think we would have gotten a penalty shot or two last night.

4) GMGM needs to address defensive deficiencies by March 4.

Posted by: doughless | February 25, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but Schultz and Jurcina have got to go. Jeff was awfull last night, and most. He's too big a guy not to hit and doesn't contribute to the offense. His plus/minus is only good b/c he play's with Green.

Posted by: GDH96 | February 25, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Dale Hunter, Rod Langway, Ivan Labre, Ryan Walters....they would put an end to the silly penalties....nobody is stepping up as a leader of the team and putting an end to this foolishness.

Get Karl back up and start sitting the nonproducing defensemen...there are a couple who aren't doing much positive...

Posted by: outrbnksm | February 25, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Dale Hunter, Rod Langway, Ivan Labre, Ryan Walters....they would put an end to the silly penalties....nobody is stepping up as a leader of the team and putting an end to this foolishness.

Get Karl back up and start sitting the nonproducing defensemen...there are a couple who aren't doing much positive...

Posted by: outrbnksm | February 25, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

he singles out Fehr when Fehr hardly ever takes a bad penalty? Why not talk about Semin's dumb penalties including his crosschecking call at the end of the game?

Posted by: cstanton1 | February 25, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

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