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Ovechkin An All-Star; Green Not; Injury Update

There are a few developments out here this morning, the biggest being that Chris Clark is skating on the second line. That might mean the captain will be back in the lineup for Sunday's matinee against Philadelpia after missing six weeks with a strained groin muscle.

Here are the forward combos:

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Kozlov
Semin-Nylander-Clark (Semin back on the left side)
Fleischmann-Steckel-Gordon (Flash to the third line)
Brashear-Laich-Bradley

Not sure what's up with Quintin "shot blocking" Laing, but I'm told he's still with the team. Matt Pettinger also isn't out there. I'll have to check on their status after practice.

As for the 'D', Tom Poti (shoulder) has returned to practice and is participating fully. Brian Pothier (concussion), however, is not on the ice.

Update: The the rest of the Eastern Conference All-Star roster has been announced. Ovechkin has -- surprise, surprise -- was named to the team, while defenseman Mike Green was not. Green said he was disappointed but excited to have been considered.

Update: Okay, Clark said he's improving but still questionable for Sunday's game. Poti, meantime, said he's hoping to play. Pothier has been ruled out. Laing is hurting from blocking shots and is questionable for the Flyers. Pettinger, out with an undisclosed ailment, is expected to return to practice tomorrow.

Update: I asked Marek Svatos of the Avalanche (they practiced today at Kettler) about Ovechkin's 13 year, $124 million extension. He said he wasn't shocked.

"It's good for him," he said. "He's a great player and he deserves it. It's going to pay off for the Capitals in the long run. Players' salaries are going back up, so teams have to pay the guys who deserve the money. ...He's making lots of money for his team and for the league. He's bringing people in the the building."

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  January 11, 2008; 10:43 AM ET
 
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Comments

I hope Laing didn't hurt himself again with his double shot block the other night which was totally sweet by the way!!!!

Posted by: nolaing? | January 11, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

So I'm guessing that whole "Nylander out for the season" rumor was just that, a rumor?

Posted by: Mike | January 11, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

What of the D pairings? Any progress with Poti or Pothier?

Posted by: JimB | January 11, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

Maybe you should see if Laing or Petter were traded to the Avalanche ;)

Posted by: old time hockey | January 11, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Hey, MSM needed to talk about something now that Ovie trade rumors are out and Sundin rumors didn't have much traction.

Posted by: tallbear | January 11, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I've been wondering when Semin would return to his natural position...

Posted by: SLM | January 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Laing's probably nursing a deep bruise or two. Wow, the Avalanche are still in town? I would have thought they would have moved on to their next place of play by now. So they spent the whole day in DC yesterday. Cool. I hope they enjoyed the trip. Maybe they took a Segway tour...

Posted by: EricS | January 11, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

The Avs are still here? Hanging around trying to pick up a few pointers? :-)

Really hope to see Laing on the ice Sunday.

Let's Go Caps!!

Posted by: Jill | January 11, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone been tracking how many man-games the Caps have lost to injury this year? That number has to be getting up there, between Clark, Semin, Gordon, Poti, Pothier, etc.

Posted by: Kurt | January 11, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Good lord, they're still in town? Did their bus break down or something?

Maybe Laing's nursing bruises from all those blocked shots... I hope he's not going anywhere. The kid's a quality 3rd or 4th liner and has more than earned his keep, though the fact that they STILL don't have a pic/video of him for the jumbotron at the Phone Booth might be telling. I'd certainly give him at least one more game - We're gonna need all the grit and hard slamming we can muster for the loathsome Phlyerscum.

Great to see Semin is back on LW. If Clark is healthy for Sunday it should be quite a game.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 11, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Any signs Nyls is ailing?
The "sky is falling" crowd has you inferring Nyls could be done for the season, but the fact that he's practicing seems to suggest otherwise.

Posted by: Mark Tucker | January 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

@Kurt - According to the game notes for the Avs game on 1-9, the Caps had lost 92 man-games. So add 1 for every player who missed the Avs game due to injury.

Posted by: Jill | January 11, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

This freaking place needs some order. Tarik, there should be a way users have to register to post.

All these rumors are crap. Last year with Eminger being traded, other crap Ovechkin rumors, and now this Nylander is out for the year crap.

Enough is enough.

Posted by: CP | January 11, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

All this talk about hockey now that the deal is done... Sunday is just too far away. By the way, remember that term, we;; be using it a while - the guy that gave us "The Goal" also gave us "The Deal." I'm loving it. Both sides showed they were committed by going All In.

Hopefully this will generate some buzz and folks will notice that we are playing great hockey and winning (12-6-4 under BB) and we'll see some butts in those seats in our phone booth.

By the way, since when do we see so many people at a Wednesday game (w/o the Pens, Flyers, Rangers). I saw some Avs jerseys, and a DC Avs fan isn't gonna miss this rare chance for a live game, but there can't be that many Avs fans here. Are we already starting to see attendance trend up?

Posted by: TheCapitalist | January 11, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Avs are playing in Raleigh tomorrow. Hmmm, I'd suggest they might want to hit the road now. Ovie's solution to Colorado's PP problems: "Shoot puck at net" :)

Posted by: tallbear | January 11, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Looks like Laing won't be in the line up this Sunday which is too bad. I bet that Fleischmann's stint on the third line won't last long. As the season moves along, I would rather have an extra checker than a "skilled" winger on my third line

Posted by: red dragon | January 11, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Quintin Seemed fine last night at the caps meet the team party.....i met Petty too h seemed fine......

Posted by: capshockey98 | January 11, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,


were you at the meet the team? why did flash leave the table with Brash and Backstrom?

Posted by: capshockey98 | January 11, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

@JimB - If you read Tarik's post it says that Poti is fully participating in practice and Pothier is still out.

@CP - Some of the rumors can get annoying but that is exactly what this blog is for. People can post what they want. What bothers me more is the constant negative comments by some, nasty comments by fans of other teams (we do a pretty good job of putting them in place) and worst of all, inappropriate comments about people with the team. Example: I agreed that Hanlon needed to go but some of the comments here were downright cold. There is no need to disparage another human being to get your point across. Save that for people we know are callous idiots like JJ.

Posted by: kenwood | January 11, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

@Reddragon,
When I go the 13yr/124M news, I kept thinking "Birdie, Birdie, Le Birdie!"

It might be on Youtube or somewhere.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

So Clark wasn't kidding last night when he said he'd be back soon. :)

A funny thing that I noticed from the party last night was that Steckle was seated with Clark, Poti, and Pothier (who didn't end up appearing). Hoping that doesn't put a hex on Steckle meaning he's headed to the IR. :)

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

@kenwood,
I hear ya, but somethings are like people, just that way. I do not condone it but someone called me "ignorant" yesterday of which I could have told them to go fornicate with their Crosby bobble head doll as such, but I didn't.

Unfortuntely an open forum like this can only enforce the posted rules below. No, I am not a liberal.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Tarik, any chance you head over to talk to some of the Avs? Not like we see them here often.

Posted by: Ffx, VA | January 11, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Avalanche probably enjoyed a day off yesterday in D.C much more then in Raleigh.

Brashear fought one of their guys at the snack bar though.

Posted by: About the Av's | January 11, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

capshockey98:
Right after Flash, Backs and Brash signed our jerseys, we went into the locker room. While we were there we ran into ... Flash!! He must have left the table right after we were there (was it something I said?!?). He looked like he has some place to go - he no longer his jersey on, had thrown on his jacket and was walking quickly!

Posted by: Boo! | January 11, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jeff | January 11, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

boo,


yeah i was in the second row when they started the autograph signings.. so i got all 3 of them to sign stuff.....but i didn't see him later so i was just curious

Posted by: capshockey98 | January 11, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

@ nolaing?

I'm pretty sure it was actually a "triple shot block" on Wednesday, with the third going into the netting and Laing getting a standing ovation.

But yeah, either way it was totally sweet!

Posted by: Pothier's Thumb | January 11, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

BOOOOOOOOOO!

No Greenie at the ASG.

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Mike Green not part of the All-Star line up - just so wrong

Posted by: Anonymous | January 11, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Mike green left off....ridiculous

Posted by: eric d | January 11, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Flash is starting to irritate me in a Kris Beech kind of way. If they are going to scratch Laing for him, he better start showing something. Granted Flash is producing a point every 3 games (.33) and Laing is at a point every 5 (.19), but Flash is -5 and Laing is +4. Besides, Flash is supposed to be an offensive threat, while Laing is a defensive specialist.

Posted by: alpca3877 | January 11, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

At least the Caps aren't the only team that can feel slighted... I'm sure Rangers fans were hoping for Henrik and Roszival to make appearances, in addition to Gomez.

Posted by: Kurt | January 11, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Gonchar over Green. I'm going to go hurl now.

Posted by: alpca3877 | January 11, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Vote for Green ASG 2009, hopefully not as a write in

http://www.nhl.com/allstar/2008/east_roster.html

Posted by: Steve R | January 11, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, can someone tell me why Flash is still in the line up? Right now I would prefer Petty even with all of his bad luck and shots off net...Esp get rid of Flash if Laing is back soon too.

Posted by: Sean | January 11, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Gonch is having a good year... Let it go, Mike's time will come in 2009.

Posted by: old time hockey | January 11, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Just checked, green not on the east all star team.

Posted by: Fashi13 | January 11, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

old time,

what are you talking about?did you see those 2 bad plays he made when he played agasint us?2 goals per his choices....also i won't want to hear about he scored the game winner....Ov was in the locker room for 10 minutes of the 3rd that game.

Posted by: capshockey98 | January 11, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm honestly not surprised that Green didn't crack the ASG lineup, though I did vote for him as a write-in. I really didn't expect him to make it. Despite his stats, he's still pretty much under the radar, like much of our roster. The bright side is he can keep focusing on doing an outstanding job for the Caps!

Posted by: Jill | January 11, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

edit

i was talking about gonchar and those 2 bonehead plays he made which let the caps score..

Posted by: capshockey98 | January 11, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey, there is still a lot to cry about. Come boys and girls, look at the Top Paid DC Athletes article in the WP. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/10/AR2008011004149.html
I think it is a disgrace (boo hoo hoo) that AO did not get more money. I think Ted and GMGM screwed our greatest hero and I wouldn't be surprised if we lose him within 3 years (boo hoo hoo).

Posted by: Joe | January 11, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Do we have to worry about how many games Laing plays? Is there a certain number of games he can play before things like waivers start coming into play?

Posted by: K | January 11, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The Nylander situation will play itself out very soon. While I can't say when the Caps will make an announcement, all indications I've heard are that Nylander is likely playing his last game of the season on Sunday. Out of respect for Nylander and the team I'm not going to go into any details, but if you watch Nylander when he's on the ice its not too difficult to tell what's bothering him (though it helps to know what to look for I guess).

But lets let it play out and see if the information I've heard, and information that has been posted on several locations (before my post here now) comes to pass and is accurate. Remember that a guy we all love to hate, Larry Brooks, reported this way back in December when Nylander's injury first happened. Turns out maybe he wasn't so far off. I think when it plays out people will hopefully have a newfound respect for Nylander and come to realize what he's accomplished over the past month with a very painful injury.

My intent in this post isn't to rile people up, but some here know me and hopefully understand that I wouldn't post this if I didn't feel a high level of confidence in the information I've heard. If my info is wrong I'll be the first to admit it.

Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Tarik, I know this is a long way into the future, but do you think Ovie's annual list of teams he will refuse trades to will be made public?

Posted by: Graham | January 11, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Laing has a broken foot.

Posted by: little birdy | January 11, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Greg S. | January 11, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

That 3rd line is obviously a defensive one. Laing is 3 times the defensive player than Flash is an offensive player.

Posted by: FreeLaing! | January 11, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Did Ted really have any choice than to sign OV to the contract? If he didn't, someone else would have. He had to protect his franchise.

If it doesn't work and he has to sell the franchise, its worth a heckuva a lot more with OV as a long term asset than it would be without him.

Can you imagine the reception he would get moving to Hamilton with OV as opposed to without him?

Brilliant business move. Lets hope the Caps do well in DC and it never comes to that. The DC fans better support the Caps so Ted can generate the funds needed to field a competitive team along with OV. One star can't do it.

Ted has raised the ante with DC fans he will need their support more than ever in terms of ticket sales. If it doesn't happen, you can bid the team adieu...

Posted by: Muddapucker | January 11, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Just thought you all would like to know that Laing has played the last 4 games with a broken foot. That blocked shot in Ottawa got him. He shouldn't be going anywhere. We need a guy like that on the team. He is amazing.

Posted by: hockeyguru | January 11, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Ticket sales will rise rapidly as the team rises in the standings.

Can anyone find a stat on attendance per win over the last 5-10 season? You will get your answer on who's a hockey town and who isnt.

The fact that Washington is looked at as a non-hockey town is rediculous. How many cities (U.S.A) would actually fill the place with our recent records?

Posted by: Ticket Sales | January 11, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

And TSN places Green in 15th place in the Player Rankings for Defensemen.

Posted by: Greg S. | January 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Reluctantly, I'm beginning to think I may have been wrong in my assesment of Flash. Initially, I believed he had the POTENTIAL ( There's that dirty word again ) to be a 25 - 30 goals per year contributor. Now, I'm not so sure. I believe Gabby is right on the mark when he says Flash's mental reactions are just a mili second too slow. Unfortunately, I don't see how one improves their reaction time. It's one of those, "It is, what it is" kind of things.
I find it to be EXTREMELY DISTURBING that Gabby hasn't figured out YET that Lainge is his BEST CHECKER. From both a tactical ( Positional ) as well as an inspirational standpoint, in my opinion, he stands head and shoulders above either Bradley, ( Who I'd definitely keep ) or Pettinger ( Whom you probably couldn't trade for a warm 6 pack, at this point ). But, Lainge most definitely belongs on this team. Quite frankly, that's a no -brainer.
Overall, how could a true Caps' fan NOT BE thrilled by their marked improvement since Hanlon was fired? It's amazing what a difference a good coach ( And, there aren't a whole lot of them around ) can make. So, LET'S GO CAPS. KEEP ON KICKIN' ASS AND TAKING NAMES!!

Posted by: Puckguru | January 11, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

A couple of comments:
1-I can understand Gonchar's selection. Kaberle is another matter. This is a blatant case of Mike Green paying the price for the NHL having to have a Maple Leaf at the ASG. God forbid noone from "hockey central" gets in the game! NO Maple Leaf deserves to go (Sundin maybe, but not over the other forwards (save Gomez, who's in the game for the same reason Kaberle is). Oh well, next year Mike...
2- I said last week and I'll say again, Flash needs to produce. I'm tired of hearing how many goals he scored at Hershey and about his potential & effort. You either bury the puck or you don't. We have enough guys who can "almost" score!

Posted by: Shipdriver | January 11, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

How the heck did Scott Gomez make the roster? Seriously?

Posted by: lets go caps! | January 11, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

What's up with these Nylander rumors now? If he is hurt that badly, why would he continue to play - what is "one more game"? Is it so he can make his quota for the year so he can get paid? That's stupid!

So far, the Caps have 2 of 10 possible points. We can def beat Philly - although, I hear Gagne is back.

I thought that was funny about Phaneuf and those rumors starting to hit the fan. Do the Caps have room on their roster to sign him? How cool would that be?

When are people going to seriously talking about - "we need to sign Green". Eh, Green is awesome and all, but we have what we wanted. Green will get signed eventually. Backstom is good for a while, and Alzner and Godfrey get over here next year.

Posted by: 828 | January 11, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Ovie on the All Star Game and his new deal...however the ASG is nothing but a popularity contest; fan-votes AND reserve selections...hence why Green was left off...he hasnt gotten the recognition he deserves, cause nobody cares about the Caps when the Penguins are still around...

Posted by: Boycotting All Star Game | January 11, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

@Graham,

I can't see any possible way that list becomes public. But, you won't need a slide rule to figure it out. Right now if he made the list it might include L.A., Tampa, Florida, Atlanta, Phoenix and probably T.O.

@ Jay,

Ok, you with the alleged inside info, you claim its his last game but why that game? The Flyers are a pretty nasty team, if he's really worried about doing more damage to himself, that strikes as a game he wants to miss. Why wouldn't they wait until they actually decide the playoffs are out and then let him heal, say in a month or so.

Posted by: old time hockey | January 11, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Old time,

Yeah haha we can probably guess which teams they'd be, but it'd be hilarious to see it officially.

The boards of those teams would be hilarious to browse after a public snubbing.

Posted by: Graham | January 11, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

It's not Gonchar (33 pts ain't shabby) or Kaberle (better #'s than Greener) we should be upset about making it over Greener. It's Kimmo Timonen of the Flyers. He's not on the squad as a "gotta have one from this team" guy and I don't believe his numbers are any better than Green's.

It's sad he didn't make it, especially since the ASG is a purely offensive game, who cares if a guy's a good defensive presence (Gonchar).

Posted by: matt | January 11, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why everyone is so upset about the 13 year deal (well everyone but the Caps fans that is). Yeah it's a long time and anything could happen but from a personal standpoint why wouldn't a player want a longer deal-especially if they are the type of person that wants stability and doesn't want to move a whole lot. I understand he could still get traded eventually but that has to be nice for AO and his family to know that he'll be established here for awhile.
Oh and by the way have you noticed how the Canadian media has their panties all in a bunch? There is a horrible article in the Vancouver news that Ted linked to that is just bitter...I love it!!!
I can smell a Cup coming our way!!!

Posted by: K | January 11, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@828 & old time hockey,
I believe that things will be clear by Tuesday. Once it comes out, or if my info is proven to be incorrect, I'll be happy to discuss it more. I'm sorry to be vague about it, I wouldn't have made my post if the info hadn't already been circulating.

Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,

Any word on a contract extension for Green yet?

Posted by: jen | January 11, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Jay, why would you say anything at all if you can't say it all? To be Mr. Cool? or, "hey, I told you so". So, the fact that you are vague is as reassuring as the guy who said the Caps are going to Trade Alex to Nashville, or the guy that said Montreal will be getting Alex next year. People started circulating that Nylander is going to be traded - you don't seem to have any knowledge of that?

@Tarik - do you know anything about this, or is Jay just one of those guys that needs attention.

Personally, I don't care if Nylander is there or not - free up his money and give it to Green. I just doubt, someone would be playing if they had issues and should not be playing. They are pro athletes, not munchkins on ice.

Posted by: 828 | January 11, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I care if Nylander is out there. He makes our power play better, and is still a very talented offensive player. The Caps are a much better team WITH Nylander than without him. Hopefully rumors of his shoulder injury are exaggerated and he can continue to rack up the assists.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | January 11, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@828,
I'm sorry you feel that way but you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I'm sure if you asked a bunch of people who know me they'd probably agree with you that I'm a guy who just needs attention. Why I posted what I did was to add another voice to hopefully give it a little more credibility. Perhaps you are right and I shouldn't have said anything at all.

There's not a way to contact people on here by private message, but if you are on the Caps boards feel free to PM me there (my SN is Stik Sav). I'd be happy to talk to you offline if you like, explain a little more about why I might have information, no worries if you don't want to contact me though.

To your question on Nylander being traded, no I have not heard anything about it and doubt anyone would trade for an injured player (though that's speculation on my part).

Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Tarik's live chat is on now on washingtonpost.com

Posted by: PC Caps | January 11, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

jay is suggeting that nylander is hurt and will miss the regular season after sunday. jay or someone else please explain to me what kind of injury would you have to have which (a) which would require you to miss the rest of the season and (b) allow you play one more game?

the only thing i can think of is either (1) the worst root canal ever or (2) a planned c-section

i suppose it could be something worse, which i won't even speculate on. but jay suggests that it is something physical that would be noticable.

Posted by: Cap Fan 1 | January 11, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know when the All Star game will come to the Verizon Center...

Posted by: LetsGoCaps | January 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

@Cap Fan 1,
Did you happen to see the article by Larry Brooks in the NY Post in December? It came right after Nylander was injured and missed a game or two.

In terms of your question, there are injuries that happen to players and they are told by the doctors that they can do no further damage and can continue to play as long as they can handle the pain. There are plenty of stories of athletes getting cortizone shots, etc. to play through pain. Why would the injury cause a player to miss the entire season? Because of an extensive rehab.

All I'm saying here is an extension of what Tarik has alluded to. He's said Nylander has a shoulder injury. I happen to think, when watching Nylander closely, that you can see him compensate for weekness due to the injury.

I apologize, on the other sites I posted where people know me or have some reason to find me credible it has had my desired effect, to calm people down about the rumor and put them in a wait and see mode. It obviously hasn't had the same affect here, it has just created more than that so I apologize and won't make the mistake again.

Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

@LetsGoCaps,
Ted has previously said he will not lobby for the All Star game until he gets full control of WS&E and the Verizon Center so he has complete control over the facilities and can make sure the event gets set up for success.

Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

@828, Jay,
Look, If you took any of this personally we'd all never be here after a day, or the rules would prohibit half this stuff from being posted in the first place. Take what you read with a grain.

Crap, I had my chain jerked wildly yesterday by my good natured colleagues in Ottawa about an Ottawa Sun report, and they are still alive.

Don't take this out of context, but if the Caps disappeared tomorrow, most of our lives would still go on I'm sure.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

@Jay

Thanks. Is that how it works, the owners lobby. I figured they would take turns and at at somepoint it would come here.

Posted by: LetsGoCaps | January 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Could someone post the link to Tarik's chat? I'm having troubles finding it. Thanks

Posted by: AOthegr8 | January 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | January 11, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 2:28!

Posted by: AOthegr8 | January 11, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

@BernieWolfeFan,
Thanks, I'm not taking it personally at all. The only thing I regret is people not taking my comments the way I intended them (I didn't wan to stir the pot but I did). Still, I can't control that so I don't let it bother me. I'll just know to be more careful in the future and not post that type of stuff here so I don't contribute to feathers being ruffled. That's all, no biggie. But thanks for your comments.

Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Yosh | January 11, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

For the earlier poster ... yes Gagne is back for the Filth. If I recall correctly, he scored in last night's 6-2 win over the Rangers.

Posted by: Eddie C | January 11, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

@Yosh- Yeah I saw that...bunch of filth is what that is...kinda irritates me though. I don't think Alex is greedy or crazy or anything like that because he will be losing money so to speak in the future. I say what's not to love about DC, especially if you're single? There's a lot to see and do and I don't really get the impression that Alex is like super greedy or anything...those guys are just bitter and jealous.

Posted by: Go Caps | January 11, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

jay, i just don't think that makes much sense. why wait a day longer than you have to to get this addressed? it's not like its the playoffs. if it is a rotator cuff injury, i can't imagine that you couldn't do more damage to it playing hockey that not. but hey, i'm no doctor. i hope you're wrong but we'll see.

Posted by: Cap Fan 1 | January 11, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

@Jay,
Cool!

Beat Philly!

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

@Yosh,

Interesting read. Doesn't take into account the cast of characters being put into place around OV. Doesn't take into account Ted being cheap and saving a ton of cap space to be in a position to now spend (hopefully smartly) some avil $ wisely - SIGN GREEN.

I think the Pens are going to be bummed in 5 years when they have to pony up to keep Sid in Pitt. Just makes me smile.

Posted by: Steve R | January 11, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

@Yosh - apparently that article has made its way over a few papers. I don't think George Johnson made any effort to do any real research and I would doubt that he has spent any time with OV or has spent any time in Washington for that matter. If all you read is the exagerations about Hockey in Washington, its hard to know better - though if it was my job to write - I would be embarressed to call that piece of crap article my work!

What I really don't understand is how you can say that OV does not belong in the same list as Crosby, Lecavalier and Luongo...

Posted by: cs | January 11, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

BernieWolfeFan
I rarely take anything personal. I just think it's funny about all the people "who know the 'real' scoop" and they post it on here.
That's like me saying, something is wrong with Kolzig, but I can't tell you why, but believe me, I know because I know something about someone who knows something about what someone heard. Or, all the trade rumors of Alex from people, who said "they know something, we didn't". The only credible person on here is Tarik and even he is questionalbe with his comments about the Caps needing to get 10 of 10 points. Just jokes Tarik, you're awesome and I hope we can get all 10 points on the homestand.
Jay, not pissed at you at all - just wish you would spill your beans. If you can't do that, then you shouldn't have posted, ya know. Now, we are talking about blue balls. Either way, everything is cool...

Posted by: 828 | January 11, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I think it's funny that everyone thinks Alex isn't surrounded by quality players. I really think things with the team are coming together. Their problem was never a lack of talent as much as it was guys being asked to play before they were fully ready and a lack of coaching staff to change with the talent. I mean you can see a huge difference b/t the beginning of the season and now, the guys actually look like they know where they are supposed to be and where the other guys on the ice are.

Posted by: K | January 11, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

@steve,
Don't the 'guins still have to sign Malkin, Stall, and Fluery well before Corbie reaches his final year? Hah!

Posted by: BernieWolfefan | January 11, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget their new Goalie Conklin... that guy is a perfect 8-0 this year. I'm sure he may want the big bucks too.

Posted by: 828 | January 11, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Conklin has been GOOD! Would love to have a goalie like him in the net....
But I do love Olie and what he's done for the team...maybe he's starting to get groove back!

Posted by: lovehim | January 11, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Mike Green Got Screwed!!!!!! The GM's around the NHL got their picks for D-Men wrong! Mike Green is tied for the NHL lead for goals by defensemen, and yet they leave him off the All-Star roster. The league keeps saying how the youth of the league is the future, yet they leave one of the best young defensemen in the league out of the All-Star game. The worst part is, is that the All-Star game is all about offense, and they leave one of the most dynamic offensive defensemen out.

I wonder if Green will get in if one of the other D-men selected happens to get hurt? Maybe the Caps should "Go After" Timmonen on Sunday. If he would get hurt, maybe Green will get his shot.

By the way, Congrats to OV for his selection to the All-Star game, not that there was really any doubt that he would be selected.

Posted by: Matt | January 11, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

@Bernie,

Good point! And the smile just got bigger.

Posted by: Steve R | January 11, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

@828,
That's right, forgot Fluery is injured! Conklin keeps it up and Kevin Lowe will add him to his list. To think, all we are worrying about right now is little 'ol Mike Green. Hah!

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I think the rest of the hockey world has forgotten the Caps used to make the playoffs regularly with basically one scoring line and three hard checking lines. Really, the O is not that far away and we're making strides on D. If Neuvirth or Varmalov (or a third goalie) pan out, we're good.

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Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

@Keef...yeah right like Rangers are going to let him go...

Posted by: K | January 11, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Yosh:

Consider the source - MONTREAL ...

they're just bitter.

Posted by: Boo! | January 11, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

My fingers have been crossed for so long, I don't think I can uncross them. :)

They still haven't signed him yet....

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Re Mike Green,

Let me throw out somewhat conspiratorily that we're better off not having Mike be an all-star this year. That will make his contract negoitations a little cheaper.

Posted by: old time hockey | January 11, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

@Oldtime,
Conversely, All-Stars could bring more fans, more tickets, more league/TV recognition, which equals more revenue, which could pay for a higher salary, etc...

I guess it's how ya look at it.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Ted addressed that article specifically this morning -

http://ted.aol.com/index.php?ID=1631#comments

It's made its way through all of the major Canadian papers, but it originated from the Calgary Herald. If you dig deep enough in their site, you can find the columnist's email address. I sent him my feelings on his column in the most civilized tone I could muster.

Posted by: HolyOlie | January 11, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

@Holy,
Can't understand why they do this to themselves. It fools no one, and I'm sure some citizens of Vancouver are embarrassed.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

@BernieWolfeFan

The thing I don't get about all of this reporting in Canada, and to a lesser extent the Philly article, is that AO is not a mystery. Everyone knows what he's capable of producing. The Caps basically had him as an intern for 3 years and could easily measure his being over that time. Would he cause troubles when the chips were down? Would he play through adversity? Will he be productive even when the team around him isn't? Any off-ice antics we need to be concerned about? Publicity problems?

He came out A++ on all counts. So, no mystery. This was an obvious deal.

We had no idea what Jagr was going to be like. We paid for that lack of knowledge, and still are paying for it.

Posted by: Greg S. | January 11, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

is semin going to be a cap in a few years?

Posted by: b | January 11, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

@Jay if you have inside medical information on anybody you should not discuss it in a public forum. It is both immoral and illegal.

Posted by: TheCapitalist | January 11, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Hope Clarkie is ready for the game by Sunday. Should be a killer of a game.

Does anybody have any experience with Will Call at VC? Had to buy online this time (bleh) and was wondering how early on Sunday can I swing by to get my ticket.. Any help would be much appreciated!

Posted by: Jordan | January 11, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

@TheCapitalist,
There is nothing illegal about it unless you are the person's medical care provider. I would disagree on the immoral part when it comes to a public athlete, especially when its something that will come out publicly anyway. Perhaps if this were a life-threatening injury or something unrelated to the sports activity then I think I might be persuaded to see your point.

Again, this is not new information, just an extension of already publicly disclosed information (see Larry Brooks article and comments made by Tarik on this blog).

Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

@Jordan

When I lived in DC I used Will Call all the time. You just tell them your name, and let them see your DL or other ID and that should be it. Im pretty sure once you order the tickets, you can pick them up.

Posted by: captnclark | January 11, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

@Jordan,
It will be a little more crowded than usual because the Flyers are in town. If you are there 30 minutes before gametime, however, you shouldn't have any problems.

Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Thanks guys. I go to games all the time but I usually just get tickets at Kettler since I'm there pretty often. Go Caps!

Posted by: Jordan | January 11, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

How many of us are going to be at the game on Sunday?

Jordan, keef = +2

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

@greg,
Sure, that's why I think some if not most Canadians are looking at "those" articles as tabloids. My Ottawa colleagues concur.

Just read these blog posts. They are from Flyers, Sabres, Habs, etc fans...

We did good Caps Fans.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=335521

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | January 11, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

We will be there cheering on the Caps loud and proud. And I will yell louder than anyone from PA (seriously, I am obnoxious).

Hope Pettinger is doing better and is able to play. Went to the STH party last night, and I must say his table (with Green and Emminger) was one of the most enjoyable. They all talked to all of the fans and were really cool. Pettinger really impressed me.

Posted by: Kim | January 11, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Awww, I was on my way over to the 44/18/52 table when they shut down. The 10/15/28 was pretty upbeat and chatty as well. One guess as to who the talkative ones were. :)

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

My sombrero and I will both be there. My buddy got free tickets from work, so I am not sure where I will be sitting.

Posted by: Sombrero Guy | January 11, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

@Keef

Yeah, me and my buddy started at the Gordon/Bradley/Semin table. They were definatly the coolest table, with the Steckel/Clark/Poti coming pretty close (Clark and Bradley were the coolest guys there). You could tell just by looking at Semin that he really wanted to go home, but Gordo got him to crack a smile a few times.

Posted by: Stephen | January 11, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I'll be at the game- and I'm bring my former boss...it should be pretty exciting!!! I can't wait!!!!

Posted by: K | January 11, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I also think Steckel was the guy that was having the most fun there. He was smiling the whole time, was really chatty, and really enjoyed watching the Caps Q&A segmants on the jumbotron. When I was getting my autograph it was showing the "Who's your favorite actress" one, and Stecks was laughing at everyones answers.

Posted by: Stephen | January 11, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Keef:
I may go ... I am guessing there will be a lot of good energy in the house! Found out today that I can get STH rates at the gate (I am only a 1/2 STH), so we'll see. I also think Tuesday's game would be fun ... especially if we beat them AGAIN! Regardless, I will definitely be there Thursday.

RE: the tables, I didn't make it to Steckel's table but I am not surprised he was having a good time - it is his first time getting to do something like that ... he has finally made it to the bigs!! Having said that, Semin was just as excited this year as he was last year ... i.e. not at all! Brash was the chattiest one that I encountered. Kolzig seemed chatty, too, but Tarik was interviewing him when I went through, so we really didn't even exchange pleasantries. Bradley was crackin' jokes because the guy in front of me had him sign a game used Bradley stick (saying stuff like, "I'm supposed to be using that in the next game!") ... he clearly dug that!

BTW, I was just out and about with a Caps jersey on and a guy started commenting about it - saying I could wear it proudly now! I always wear it proudly, but it is nice to hear people finally saying good things about the Caps!! :-)

Posted by: Boo! | January 11, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

I am going to try and buy a ticket on the street so at least one less Philly fan is in the building.

Posted by: Clarendon | January 11, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Nice, it sounds like it should be a pretty packed house come Sunday!!

Sascha smiled a bit when I was over at his table, but he definitely looked the least interested. Speaking of game sticks...how in the hell do you get lucky enough to get one??

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

keef:
i think you have to buy them. they have annual equipment sales, plus you can get them on the NHL auction websites, ebay, etc.. did you get a STH stick last year? granted, they were not game sticks, but they were still pretty cool.

Posted by: Boo! | January 11, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Nope, wasn't a STH last year - it was an Ovie stick, right?

I'm kinda interested in seeing how the mini jersey turns out this year. :)

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

BTW, Johnson let 3 in tonight for his Hershey start. Bourque got the only Bears tally.

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

How many of you all are STHs? Just trying to figure out if at some point I can put faces to names...

Posted by: Yosh | January 11, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Keef:
Johnson faced 40 shots from the Baby Pens and the 3 he let in were late in the game. The Bears offense was non-existent tonight, only 16 shots on goal and Bourque's shorty was the only tally. And the defense in front of Johnnie was pretty scarce at times too. He made some pretty outstanding saves.

Posted by: Tess | January 11, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Boo! | January 11, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Keef:
Last year we had the choice between an Olie or a Ovie stick ...

Yosh:
I am a STH.

Posted by: Boo! | January 11, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Boo! I'm all over that Jagr stick. I'll be sure to hit the neighborhood kids with it.

And about the other stick...hmmm. 1/2 of next year's games and a stick or all of them? Hahahaha.

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the replay, Tess. Wasn't sure if his knee was bothering him but it sounds like he did well - before Olie stepped his game up, I was wondering if Johnny'd get more nods. Hopefully we won't find out. :)

Posted by: keef | January 11, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: OleMiss | January 11, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Keef:
Exactly! LOL!! Hard to believe how expensive they are ... and the jerseys from that site?!? Wow! Even Fehr is over $1000!

Posted by: Boo! | January 11, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: alexovetjkin | January 11, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Brent Johnson played his rehab game with the Bears He was spectacular since he was the only one that showed up he of course ended up taking a loss. He got a work out no doubt, it looked like Wilkes-Barre was on a power play the whole game just to show you Bears where out shot 40-16. So he was great in case anyone was wondering...

Posted by: Chad | January 12, 2008 8:02 AM | Report abuse

I don't think we have to worry about Alex being Captain. It will happen soon. I think Clark should stay C for awhile and let Alex focus on his game. He's had a lot of things going on in life so far this year. He's a leader no doubt and he'll be C for a long time. He's been offered it though but has turned it down.

Posted by: K | January 12, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm loving all the naysayers over The Deal, especially those who say it proves the CBA has failed. First, people see the total and forget to divide by 13. AO is not the highest paid NHLer. Also, nobody knows what salaries would be looking like now without a cap and whether a big money team would have been waiting until free agency season to wave a $20 million a year deal in front of AO. Ted would have to walk away, and we'd all have lost.

The other fallacy is that this shows that Ao is just greedy and could care less about winning. First, if you've even once seen AO celebrate any Caps goal, you know better. Actually this show's AO's commitment to having a decent team around him in the long run. The GM's job of managing the cap over the next decade was made MUCH easier by giving, um, cost certainty to a huge part of the team's roster costs. It also will look like more of a discount as years go buy and UFA offers hit the $15 mil level and higher. Assuming a long healthy career and improving as he matures, he may have cut nearly a half off his full career earning potential. What else can a guy do to prove he just wants to win?

AO and management both took huge risks and placed a lot of trust in each other and showed their committment to winning in the long term with The Deal.

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