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Giroux recalled, on top line

Alexandre Giroux has been recalled from the Bears and is skating on the top line with Alex Ovechkin and Nicklas Backstrom this morning.

Giroux has taken the roster spot of swingman Tyler Sloan, who returned to Calgary for personal reasons. He's expected to rejoin the team soon.

Also, Shaone Morrisonn (concussion) has returned to practice and appears to be participating fully. But Alexander Semin (wrist) is not back. Earlier in the week, Coach Bruce Boudreau indictated that Semin might be back today.

Karl Alzner is still here, too.

I'll have more after practice.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  November 27, 2009; 10:40 AM ET
 
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FIRST!GO CAPS

Posted by: Tondi | November 27, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Who do you think gets the goal tomorrow night?

Posted by: arcassells | November 27, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

This mysterious Semin wrist injury is starting to worry me. How bad is it? Is there something else going on?

Posted by: guer_j | November 27, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

It worries me, too. We need him back!

Tarik, what's the backstory?

Posted by: Steakum | November 27, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Semin would be great trade bait! Sick of his penalties-uncoachable- and his injuries.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | November 27, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

@lylewimbledon -- YOU'VE been unable to coach him?
Let's be sure to hang all of the players out to dry who have the same number or more penalties and who are injured.

Again, too often people who don't or can't understand things, or who are not privy to all of the facts, lash out due to ignorance.

If you don't like him, that's your prerogative. But, note that your reasons can apply to many others, as well.

Posted by: Steakum | November 27, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Getting rid of Semin would be a horrible mistake. Let's hope that day does not come for a very very very very veryyyy long time.

Posted by: Bondra2Ovie | November 27, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Personally I'd rather we have one of the most gifted players in all of hockey. Injured wrist doesn't seem too mysterious.

Posted by: Sonyask | November 27, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I think I can relate with lyle. It seems that Semin is like clockwork for in and out injuries. He is a great player, and I love having him on the ice..

But how can you spring 6 mil a year for someone who cant stay in the lineup?

Im worried about this because it happens ALL THE TIME...this is nothing new...

I want him here, and I want him healthy, because he is sooo good and fun to watch when he is on...but isnt anyone getting tired of this?

Posted by: SA-Town | November 27, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Why Giroux? There are better all-around players in Hershey. And since Giroux can't seem to score or play defense here (doesn't play defense in Hershey, so that's not a surprise) why not call up, say, Osala? And putting him on Ovechkin's line, what an insult to our star. And yes, I have seen Giroux play a number of times this year in Hershey.

Posted by: Varly | November 27, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

@SA-Town

The Rangers shelled out $7+ million for Gaborik and everyone knows his injury history. Besides I rather have a player miss a few games during the season and show up for the playoffs than the other way.

I wonder if Semin's "sore" wrist is actually broken? Would explain the brace.

Posted by: ablake70 | November 27, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm tired of all the injuries -- Ovechkin, Schultz, S. Morrrison, Knuble, Semin, Poti, Gordon. . . . -- tough year so far.

I can't say I'm too excited about A. Giroux coming up. Hopefully there's some good reason to believe he can do better in the NHL than he's done heretofore. We'll see, I guess.

Posted by: Sonyask | November 27, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Add to the lexicon of GMGM. Reasons to be inactive.

1. upper body injury- an injury occuring between the crown of the head up to and including the ankle.

2. lower body injury- An injury occuring somewhere between the foot and the tip of the chin.

3. personal reasons- you don't have a need to know. Actually I'm fine with this one. Fans often forget that the palyers are people with the same real life trials as anyone else.

4. Nylander- no matter how many people are injured, we won't call you because you drank the last cup of coffee and didn't make a new pot. Okay, I made that one up, but right now the only theories are the made up ones.

Posted by: goalpost | November 27, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I actually like this call-up and hope Giroux does get to play on the 1st line. In his previous call-ups he didn't get much of a fair shake. The guy is a goal scorer. He's not effective when playing on a 3rd or 4th line. Putting him with Ovie and Backstrom is where he belongs. He certainly can't do any worse than Chris Clark who's unable to get the puck off the ice or even hit it with his stick most of the time.

Reposting from previous thread:

Glad to see that the NHL made the correct decision. A 5 min major and a game misconduct was already an excessive punishment for what Ovie did.

The people who keep talking about him developing a bad reputation are clueless hypocrites. They're the same people who always talk about how hockey is a physical game and that European, and Russian players in particular, aren't tough enough and don't hit. Along comes a Russian player that hits hard and all the clowns are all over him every time someone he nails gets a booboo.

I'm sure we won't here the end of this one from Don Cherry on this Saturday's Hockey Night in Canada.

Posted by: ranndino | November 27, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Just noticed this in an earlier thread (so easy to miss new comments here):

On your screen name. I know you're Russian but how'd you end up with a screen name that sounds Italian (which was my guess until I know better).

Posted by: CapsFan75

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When I was 13 my mother remarried so my last name is different from the rest of my family. When I was 14 I was messing around with creating logos and creating fake company names (which eventually translated into what I do for a living) and got an idea to see what would happen if I took a letter from each of the last names starting with mine and doing it this way... 1st letter from mine, 2nd from theirs, 3rd from mine, etc. When I was done the result was ranndino, a cool Italian sounding word.

Posted by: ranndino | November 27, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Someone on my facebook that is at Kettler just posted that Semin is skating today at practice....they didn't say how or what he's doing but he is indeed on the ice...sorry to get the jump on Tarik :-p

Posted by: rdiehljr | November 27, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Lastly, it seems we can't go a few days without retarded calls to trade Semin. Here's my answer to the latest batch:

Since signing his three-year, $12.25 million extension with the Boston Bruins at the beginning of October, Lucic has missed more games than he's played.

That Lucic guy is such a wuss!

Posted by: ranndino | November 27, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I agree ranndino--I find it absolutely fascinating how strong of a reaction he gets from fans across the league. He doesn't fit neatly in a stereotype especially with European finesse versus hard hitter not afraid to mix it up. And he has the gall to enjoy his work and dare to show his passion for the sport to the world. Would we all be so lucky to follow our bliss rather than just have a job to pay the mortgage!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Steakum: Looks like you're ready to send lylewimbledon to the Doofus Brigade, S Company, for his comments on Semin.

As you know, I'm highly in favor of keeping #28 if he can and wants to be signed in the $6M range.

BTW, your name always makes me hungry. Used to eat steakums as a kid. As we now speak, or as I now type, mrstominfl1 is converting a thin ribeye into a steak sandwich not unlike a steakum.

Excuse me, please, as it's time for lunch.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Haven't been here the last few days, so it's time to spread my crappy opinions:

1) The call on Ovechkin was fine, and if Kaleta was injured on the play, Ovi would have been suspended. You do not check someone full-power like that with his back turned to you and the boards right there. You just don't do that...Ovi has to smarten up a bit when it comes to leveling guys near the boards.

2) Osala looked horrible on his call-up. I hope he's doing good in Hershey.

3) Are people still talking about Semin? The guy is injured and this is all you guys can talk about? Not like...you know...about a player on our tea who is actually playing right now...

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Today someone calls for Semin to get traded (which I think would be a HORRIBLE outcome), and then other days Mike Green is the whipping boy. Then, when someone sticks up for the goat d'jour, the original whiner whines that they get criticized for whining. I see this pattern over and over, and frankly, it's getting really old.

I'm looking forward to Saturday's game. It'll be interesting to see how the first line does.

Even though there were no added disciplinary actions on Ovi, I don't like the business about the next major penalty resulting in a one game suspension. It's like saying, "okay, the referee made a bogus call, but Ovi is still on the hook for it." Ridiculous.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | November 27, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

If Richards had checked Ovi into the boards like that, none of you would have a problem with the call.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Of course I was talking about Ovi in my last post, but I am a huge Semin fan too. I would be shocked if we didn't resign him in addition to Backs. Semin has been sorely missed on the PP.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

@rdiehljr

Thanks for the info. Since he hasn't played in a while, they probably don't want to throw him on a line. Maybe he'll be ready to play Monday.

Posted by: ablake70 | November 27, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

@tominfl1 -- I get that a lot, even from Customer Service reps when I call re an online problem. It's a play on my last name and was given to me by a good grad school friend who died too young from cancer. So, when time came to pick a screen name oh those many years ago, it was the first thing that popped into my head. It also makes me think of him every day.

Re Semin's wrist, my middle son broke his wrist a year ago in a game. He wore the same type of black brace Semin was sporting. He was out of hockey for 4 weeks. An x-ray did not show the break, but an MRI showed one at the very top of the bone at the wrist. The doc was pretty sure it was broken just by looking at it and gauging pain with certain movement.

Either BB or McPhee had said it was nothing serious last week, but that could mean many things. Some breaks are hard to diagnose and some sprains are more serious than others. Our older son had a couple of bad sprains from hockey and had to take time off or it would get worse if he played. He also wore the same type of brace.

Posted by: Steakum | November 27, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil--of course we would be screaming for Richards head on a platter. We are good fans after all. But when this fan is away from the game and has time to reflect, read the rules, and watch the replays I usually form a pretty fair not too biased opinion. I also enjoy great play by other greats on other teams--especially when we still win.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil--of course we would be screaming for Richards head on a platter. We are good fans after all. But when this fan is away from the game and has time to reflect, read the rules, and watch the replays I usually form a pretty fair not too biased opinion. I also enjoy great play by other greats on other teams--especially when we still win.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 12:48 PM |

So....was Ovi's major/misconduct right or not?

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Then, when someone sticks up for the goat d'jour, the original whiner whines that they get criticized for whining
very keen eye!
where else have we seen repeated behavior over the last couple of years that gets identified and chastised but only corrected for very short periods of time.
like team, like fans

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 27, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Good. Patrick Kaleta has an established history of diving and embellishing, and tht's exactly what he did there. What a joke the refing was that night.

Posted by: kittypawz | November 27, 2009 7:33 AM |

Kaleta is one of the biggest chicken-sh**s in the league. When I saw it was Kaleta I was happy.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

@ richmondphil

C'mon man, for the 100th time it was not a hit from behind. Watch the replay again. Kaleta's numbers were not in Ovie's sights. He hit him from the side.

If the rule is that you're not supposed to touch anyone when they're a few feet from the boards because they might fall into them and hurt themselves than it was the right call, but if we're talking about hitting from behind than it wasn't.

And yes, I'd say the same thing if it was Kaleta who hit Ovie this way. Even though I'm a fan I try to be as objective as I can. For example, I really ripped Green a few days ago even though he's my boy and I have always defended him on here against his haters. Why? Because on that particular occasion he deserved to be ripped.

Posted by: ranndino | November 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

@ richmondphil

BTW, Semin has been hit in a similar way to Kaleta a number of times this season and it didn't even result in a penalty because even though he's a "wussy Russian" and Kaleta is a "tough North American" he didn't make a big deal out of it.

Posted by: ranndino | November 27, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

C'mon man, for the 100th time it was not a hit from behind. Watch the replay again. Kaleta's numbers were not in Ovie's sights. He hit him from the side.

If the rule is that you're not supposed to touch anyone when they're a few feet from the boards because they might fall into them and hurt themselves than it was the right call, but if we're talking about hitting from behind than it wasn't.


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Cool, so it wasn't from behind.

Got anything else?


And you guys should stop trying to quote NHL rules. We all know the NHL is more fickle than women. (no offense to all you ladies out there)

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

BTW, Semin has been hit in a similar way to Kaleta a number of times this season and it didn't even result in a penalty because even though he's a "wussy Russian" and Kaleta is a "tough North American" he didn't make a big deal out of it.

Posted by: ranndino | November 27, 2009 1:01 PM |

You got links to show this?

NHL.com has every hit on replay...show me where this has happened a number of times to Semin.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

ovie's major misconduct was not warranted. here is the criteria for a major boarding penalty:

The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a major penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player or goalkeeper guilty of boarding an opponent (see 42.5).

violence of impact? pretty average if you ask me. ovie hit the guy as the guy was turning from the hit. the violence was ovie's hit, which is typical when 230 pounds of muscle hits a smaller man.

the hit maybe deserved a 2 min minor. probably 4 because of the boo boo on his nose. 5/10 for that is a joke especially when, speaking of richards, a shoulder to the head gets no penalty, fine or suspension..

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 27, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil:
i somewhat agree.
it almost doesn't make any difference if it was a legal hit or even right on the edge. if kaleta had turned to face ovi the hit would have been legal, kaleta turned away right next to the boards. sometimes perception counts just as much as reality. ovi needs to be aware of the perception of his hits and act accordingly - and by that i mean he shouldn't make the hit if it could be seen/interpreted as illegal.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 27, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

People here wanted Chara's head when Ovi tripped up and slammed into the boards. Even after the replayed show Chara making little to no contact.

Sorry if I think most people on here operate with a red bias, but it's true when it comes to assessing hits.

Being a homer about players is also a completely different thing than being a homer about hits/calls.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

speaking of richards, a shoulder to the head gets no penalty, fine or suspension..

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 27, 2009 1:02 PM |

Well the hit was legal. Are headshots banned? No.

Seriously, if you want to quote NHL rules to me, don't then say that Richards should have been fined/suspended/whatever for a perfectly legal hit.

You know who used to hit like that? Stevens.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil--I can't answer yet because we are at family sans laptop. And I am relying on my iPhone which hasn't the clearest video feed. However I've watched it and it appears to me to a be a borderline call regarding the game misconduct since it was shoulder led not elbow led and the hit itself does not seem high. It also struck me that for a game where so many penalties on both sides went uncalled the game misconduct seemed especially excessive. But I am relying on the commentary on various threads and blogs for both teams since the game was not televised where we are. I definitely think it was penalty warrented but am not sure whether charging would have been better than boarding. I really wish I had been at the game.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

And I thought I made this clear when the Richards hit happened, but I guess I need to again.

NHL rules do not matter. Everyone here knows that. Does the NHL ever follow their protocol when it comes to things like this? No. What they do is base it on previous decisions in similar situations.

When the Richards hit happened, I posted about 10 youtube links to similar hits. Guess what...none of them received a penalty for the hit. Should those type of hits be looked at more seriously? Probably...but the fact remains that the league has been steadily consistent on those "headshot" calls.

Now, Ovi checks someone into the boards. Ovi's eyes were locked into Kaleta, he was not playing the puck. (Charging). Ovi then, seeing Kaleta shoot the puck up and turning a bit, decides to not slow down. As Kirk has said, Ovi needs to smarten up when it comes to those kinds of things. I'm all for finishing checks, but you don't need to put your whole power into a hit like that. It was just dumb. Was it illegal? I don't know. But it certainly was dumb and thus I have no problem with the call.

We killed the 5 and Varly got a shutout.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

richmond, relax. i never said richards hit was against the rules. that's the point. that it's not against the rules despite the "violence" by which richards shoulder hit booths head and booths head hits the ice and thats a joke. you tell me which hit was worse and deserves to be a major penalty and game misconduct.

have some more turkey and let the tryptophan calm you down.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 27, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I definitely think it was penalty warrented but am not sure whether charging would have been better than boarding. I really wish I had been at the game.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 1:10 PM |

Here's the thing. While you guys may be focusing on trying to find the rule which warrants it, I don't really care if it was called charging, boarding, or destroying.

It was dumb. Simple. Was 5/10 too much? I don't know and I don't care..what I do know is that it was stupid and 5/10 seems like it would help smarten him up more than a simple 2/2.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

If Richards had checked Ovi into the boards like that, none of you would have a problem with the call.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 12:35 PM

Actual if Richards had hit Ovi that way, Richards would have bounced off :).

My daughter hasn't seen the game yet and she's watching the recording now. I want to see the Q Laing interview and then I will watch very carefully the Ovi hit. My initital thought was what someone put above - two mins for charging and then two extra mins because the player was injured due to a foul. Boarding I thought was a very clear smack from behind, in the numbers, so I will look for that.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

My initital thought was what someone put above - two mins for charging and then two extra mins because the player was injured due to a foul. Boarding I thought was a very clear smack from behind, in the numbers, so I will look for that.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 1:15 PM |

I actually felt a 2/2 would have been the more correct call, however a misconduct can only help to deter these kinds of stupid plays in the future.

5/10 certainly should not create this uproar that it's causing though.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Again the YouTube I am watching is not the clearest BUT it appears that both sides are right--the hit was started as a side shoulder nut Kaleta turned toward the wall so the actual hit appears to to be just behind--not fully behind. Whether the player hammed it up or not the blood was real. So the nose hit something. And on the Sabres side many fans feel that he was being responsible by turning to clear the puck even though he had seen Ovi coming. The fact that he did see Ovi is part of the reason too that the I believe the misconduct was the ref overkill that was because of the blood but that no suspension came because the actual incident was not the head shot kind the league is worried about.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Remember folks; you are quoting rules which try to say that diving and tripping can happen on the same play.

NHL has always based it's decisions on past circumstances with similar incidences. It has never been consistent, in terms with the rules. I mean, as we all know, the NHL faces serious credibility problems right now.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Phil: Having not yet re-seen it, the replay is not mid-2nd period, I'm going to agree with you that he needs to wisen up on when to unleash his full fury. The refs ARE looking and, anyway, perception is more important than reality in most areas of life. I respect also our fans here defending him, since the US legal system is based on trying to find a technicality to become innocent no matter what you do.

Here in Orlando it is brutally cold today, having not yet breeched 60. I had to dig throught the drawers and find long pants and a sweatshirt. If the pool freezes I can play hockey, so I'll go check.

People shouldn't have to live in such inhuman conditions. The gov't should really do something.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

NHL will call something on those plays every single time. It's what they do. They take boarding very seriously.

NHL does not call penalties on those Richards/Fannooooof hits. It never has. Of course there is big discussion right now about what to do with these kinds of hits, but as of to this moment, those type of hits are never called.

Stevens perfected it people. Remember..the guy only had 4 elbowing penalties his whole regular season career.

What the NHL needs to do is to allow hits like Richards/Fanooof to still happen, but take away the hard armor from the shoulder pads. That is what is causing all these recent injuries, not a perceived rise of headshots. Go to the HHOF and touch Howe's pads and then go to Kettler and look at one of the current players pads. That hard-armor has to go.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Corey just posted that Knuble, Semin and Quintin took to the ice after practice. I'm amazed that Quintin is skating at all with a broken jaw. I know the team will get a big boost when he and his top 6 friends return.

Any news about Nylander? He's between a rock and a hard place. How's he handling not playing and trying to land with another team? Any new prospects from the KHL or European leagues? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Terptwin | November 27, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Knuble is eligible to come back tomorrow, or next Saturday? I know Laing has a bit more time.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Richmondphil-- I am not focused on the rule-- you asked for my opinion which I gave with caution since I don't have access to all the lovely video angles that Campbell does. The misconduct came I'm sure from the blood and the assumption that the head was hit. That part was too much but understandable if the actual hit was not seen by the ref. I don't think the ref was trying to make an example of Ovi. I actually have a lot of respect for the refs--they get NO love.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Watching the replay, late 2nd, Green made a magnificent sweep check.

And, a minute earlier, Ovi blew by a Sabre D and if that play happened to a Caps D - well, some posters would be demanding a bus ride to Hershey for that player.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I was at the game, at a terrible angle to see the hit, but from the replays I don't have a problem with the call, Ovie didnt mean to, but it was borderline enough to be called.

Something I thought everyone would find interesting- in the Buffalo/Philly game, Kaleta just got a 5 and 10 for boarding. Funny how things work out like that.

Posted by: BACKS | November 27, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

@Capsyoungguns

Did not mean to say you were going by the rules. I meant to direct that at the people who were quoting rules to me.

The NHL, of course, SHOULD follow their rules. But for whatever reason they decide to go by past decisions. I commend people who like to read the rulebook/CBA, as tom said, because that is the way it should be and how it works in the real world. However, when it comes to the NHL, quoting rules seems to be like quoting the Bible. It can say one thing and another somewhere else. (Don't read this the wrong way people, I have a degree in Western Religion. I thoroughly respect your personal religion.)

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

BTW, my daughter just said she will root for Russia in the Olympics. Will you all be rooting for the US or for your favorite players?

For me, I'll root for the Caps to win always but probably US to beat Russia.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Used to eat steakums as a kid. As we now speak, or as I now type, mrstominfl1 is converting a thin ribeye into a steak sandwich not unlike a steakum.

Excuse me, please, as it's time for lunch.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 12:28 PM
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Good choice for lunch today, Tom. The Caps are off, but the Bears have a home-and-home tonight and tomorrow with the Adirondack Phantoms, previously known as the Philly Phantoms. In keeping with your "food for games" theme, a steak sandwich is an excellent choice since only two good things ever came out of Philly...steak sandwiches and my dad. However, since today it the AWAY part of the series, a chicken cheesesteak might have been an even better choice. In fact, I think I just decided on tonight's dinner menu. :)

Posted by: tess2201 | November 27, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

And Ovi is someone no one feels neutral about whether a fan or not. For that we Caps fans are blessed.
We are going to the Devils/Islanders game tomorrow (yes family is in NJ). What astounds me is that the Devils cannot get enough STH despite the success of their team. Tickets were easy to get. I state again we are fortunate with Ovi-- he brings so many intangibles to the team and franchise in addition to great talent on the ice.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

BTW, my daughter just said she will root for Russia in the Olympics. Will you all be rooting for the US or for your favorite players?

For me, I'll root for the Caps to win always but probably US to beat Russia.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 1:41 PM |

I usually root against the US...just because...but I think i'll go with them this year.

Dustin Brown > all.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

We are going to the Devils/Islanders game tomorrow (yes family is in NJ). What astounds me is that the Devils cannot get enough STH despite the success of their team. Tickets were easy to get. I state again we are fortunate with Ovi-- he brings so many intangibles to the team and franchise in addition to great talent on the ice.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 1:45 PM

It's hard for the Devils. They have 2 bigger hockey teams an hour away, not to mention Philly 1-2 hours away.
Devils had to take fans away from these teams to make it work.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone remember those Ovi to Nashville rumors a few years back?


It makes me laugh.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

PHI: Richards, M. (19:26 in 1st), Coburn, B. (19:56 in 1st)


BUF meltdown continues.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, the replay just got to the point of the penalty. There aren't enough angles and I can't tell. I can see an argument for charging, for boarding or for no penalty at all. The one thing it wasn't was checking from behind.

One thing I'll say is that lots of plays seem to be charging according to the rules (is it three strides) but don't get called.

I'm not going to dispute the penalty because the check was dangerous. But, there is a problem in that if someone hits Ovi like that, the defender bounces off. I do have a problem when the severity of the call is dependent on the strength of the player being checked.

I am going to agree with Phil. The other player was about one yard from the boards. Hitting a player like that has a high danger potential. So, 4 or 5? Ref's judgment. Suspension? No.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

@richmonphil--LOL. I am an art historian and really hate to read legalese. I keep wanting to edit. I've never read the the NHL's rules but they absolutely should follow their own rules. I actually think the league attempts to be fair when reviewing these situations and if anything are harder on star players. It seems that it's about headshots for the league, which is good for the players for their old age.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Semin and Green are both highly-skilled, high-visibility players. We view them under a microscope.
That said, they are both unpredictable. Brilliance can quickly be overshadowed by obvious lapses in play. Their mental mistakes are human, but we want superhuman performance every game.
Trade bait? Certainly, but we'd be a much poorer performing team for the loss of either of them in the short-term.

Posted by: beeman | November 27, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

"Kaleta turned into it, I don't think it was a malicious thing by Ovechkin, just reckless like you said. A two-minute penalty for charging would have sufficed."

A quote from one of my BUF friends. Noble of him to say 2 would've been fine, instead of calling for a 5 or 2/2.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil: Your friends are noble, but they're not typical Buf fans. Aside from Pittsburgh, there's no town that dislikes Ovi more and believes him to be congenitally a dirty player.

Posted by: Sonyask | November 27, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Tess: It's dinner I try and tie into the Caps' location. They are probably flying out this afternoon, so steak at lunch appropriate. Lobsters are still on sale $4.99 for one lb, and we bought two this am for dinner. So, mrstominfl1 will make I think she said lobster lasagna. No, no tomato sauce, but the lobster will be in the pasta like meat lasagna. There might be some shrimps tossed in and I will select a very nice California chardonnay since I don't have French white Burgundy that is the classic lobster combo.

I would have to amend your comment there and add Benjamin Franklin as the third good thing to come out of Filthydelphia (besides your dad and cheesesteak sub).

W/O electricity, I couldn't watch the game.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Even the Rangers have ST available though their fanbase is pretty raucous. Probably is too much competition in this area. Hope the Islanders can build their team successfully despite the competition.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

lylewimbledon obviously belongs in the Doofus Brigade and should most likely at least hold the rank of Sergeant....In the past I can recall him berating Semin, Fehr(relentlessly), Green, and several other D-corp players....Obvious Doofus Brigade material.

And I used to love Steakums as a kid as well!

Posted by: PhilR | November 27, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil: Your friends are noble, but they're not typical Buf fans. Aside from Pittsburgh, there's no town that dislikes Ovi more and believes him to be congenitally a dirty player.

Posted by: Sonyask | November 27, 2009 2:05 PM |

Yeah, most of my friends are like us though. Above and beyond the casual hockey fan. Most of these people I met playing hockey, and quite a few still do. One of my NJ acquaintances grew up playing with JVR, so I can usually trust their assessment. Of course, like any of us, homerism does get the best of even the most objective, non-biased fan. (It's pat of being a fan, ya know?)

I am assuming BUF fans hate Ovi for the Briere incident(s). The guy I quoted happens to hate Briere, so maybe that played a part in it, haha.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Why is that Sonyask? Because of the Briere hit? I understand Pittsburgh enmity--classic yin/yang with Ovi versus Crosby although he is no angel either. He is great at the sneaky slash or trip--nothing sneaky about Ovi. I do agree with the reckless charge tho' on another day in a different game we would describe it as playing with abandon and passion.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Tom, three things...Ben Franklin is also a winner.

Posted by: tess2201 | November 27, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

PhilR: Since lylewimbledon seems to want to blow up the whole team, we can make him a technical sergeant, demolition expert, and assign him, rather than a company, but to battalion HQ.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

PhilR: Since lylewimbledon seems to want to blow up the whole team, we can make him a technical sergeant, demolition expert, and assign him, rather than a company, but to battalion HQ.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 2:30 PM |

Haha. Might as well call him "Overlord."

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

tominfl1:
i want to know what it would take for someone to be assigned to kp or latrine duty. i'm not volunteering - just wondering.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 27, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Ooh latrine duty. Good question. Someone would have to be very very bad!

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I do not believe there are Technical Sergeants in the Army, I think that is Air Force only but I may be wrong....either way, lylewimbledon does need to be assigned to HQ for sure as many players as he disparages.....and I too would like to know what it would take for latrine duty....seriously suggest trading Ovi for his "dirty" hits?!?!

Posted by: PhilR | November 27, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I would think for latrine duty it would have to be someone who is really full of s*it. There's surely some on here who qualify.

Posted by: tess2201 | November 27, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

PhilR:
i think someone that contradicts themselves or their own views/opinions should qualify.

like saying theo is a sieve and should have stopped shots that were goals, but varly was on fire and only gave up those goals because his defense let him down.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 27, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

If someone were to say, for instance, that Green "played like cr@p," we'd assign that person to the Doofus Brigade, brigade HQ, special latrine duty, cleaning the colonel's toilet, so that the person could find out what "cr@p" really is.

"Private, I want that bowl cleaned with a toothbrush!"

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Have you guys and gals checked the Olympic rosters for Vancouver?
It is going to be some great hockey come Feb. Can't wait. Ryan Miller and Tim Thomas backstopping us. I can live with that.

Posted by: BernieWolfeFan | November 27, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

tess2201:
true - but being on latrine duty with soooo many others dilutes the assignment. we need something a little more specific.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | November 27, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Danny Briere is the only one I know in the Doofus Brigade, KP section (there must be an official name for that because "KP" is not official designation ). He is there because he once speared Ovechkin and Joe B said, "Oh, my! He got Ovi in the produce section with that one."

So I figure that would but Briere in KP, but I guess could also put him in Medical assisting the brigade urologist.

Posted by: tominfl1 | November 27, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

At www.downgoesbrown.com for the Leafs there is a very funny flow chart on how suspensions are handed out by the league.

Posted by: Capsyoungguns | November 27, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Granted, Briere's spearing happened after Ovi boarded him.

Posted by: richmondphil | November 27, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

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