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Mike Green on first-round playoff loss: 'It's heart wrenching'


Toni L. Sandys/The Washington Post


Five days after declining to speak about the Caps' humbling first-round playoff loss, and two days after disappearing on breakdown day, defenseman Mike Green decided it was time to speak to reporters (and, by extension, you, the paying customer).

Green talked for about 15 minutes in a wide-ranging interview that touched on the 1-for-33 power play to his own struggles (no goals, six minor penalties) and his decision not to play for Canada in this month's world championships (which had to do with his sore wrist).

You've already read plenty here about Green's postseason letdown, so I'm going to turn it over to him now:

Q: What are your thoughts on the loss?
A: It was very, very disappointing. We worked so hard to put ourselves in position to be a championship team and unfortunately, to not succeed. ... I know from ourselves and everybody else, it's heart wrenching. We don't feel sorry for ourselves, but we expected more from us and it didn't work out.

Q: What made you come back and speak [to the media]?
A: You guys have been good all year and I felt bad. I didn't want to speak to you guys based on raw emotions after the game. I was pretty worked up. To be honest, I didn't want to say the wrong things and I felt like I would have.

Q: Have you replayed the series in your mind?
A: I've actually watched some of the games. It's funny, there's all of this talk about, "Is it our system?' The whole season, the question is whether we [could] be a defensive team. Then we get in the playoffs, and it's now it's about, 'Can we score goals?' when we scored the most goals in the league. Unfortunately, we ran into a really hot goaltender at the wrong time. The thing with us is we relied on our power play so much, being 25 percent for two, two and a half years. Things didn't work out. We needed to adjust as players and as a unit and we didn't adjust. Look at [Alexander] Semin. He had so many opportunities in the slot that that kid scores nine out of 10 times. And the pucks weren't going in. And I felt like the adjustments they made to take away our guys really affected us. But as a player, I take full responsibility for my role. Not scoring, not producing is something I need to do. And I didn't. So I take full responsibility.

Q: What needs to be different so you don't have another [letdown] in next year's postseason?
A: I think mentally I was preparing myself for the playoffs to play strong defensively. When all season you're an offensive-minded player, and you get criticized about your defensive play, you try to adjust to become that complete player. Going into the playoffs, I wanted to play strong defensively. And maybe that [affected] my offense."

Q: So was there too much going on in your [mind]?
A: When that gets into your head, you tend to not do the right things at the right times. You just have to be better.

Q: What were your raw emotions after the loss?
A: It was overwhelming. You almost want to cry. It's disappointing. [Tearing up slightly.] The way I felt after that game is something I hope I never feel again. The expectations we had upon ourselves and what happened ... The tough part for me is that it takes 82 more games to get another opportunity. That's a long time.

Q: This team won 14 in a row before the Olympic break. Did it peak too early?
A: I think we played well all year. At that point we were on fire. We had every guy ... our chemistry was unbelievable. We kind of lost that a little bit. That streak that we went on, we couldn't miss a shot. Everything was going in. Sometimes that just happens. And for whatever reason ... maybe that's why in the playoffs we expect, as players, it to be like that. And it didn't. It didn't. Those pucks ... We'd get shots, they hit a leg, they bounce on our stick and it's in the net. We couldn't get a bounce, even. We couldn't get one bounce. Sometimes you need those bounces and those shots to go in. It creates more emotion, motivation. ... It just wasn't.

Q: To lose by not scoring had to affect you more mentally than anything, right?
A: More than ever. Because it was something out of character for our team. And like I said earlier, we played well, I thought, as a team, defensively limiting them to not very many shots and then they have one or two goals and we can't score more than two when all season we scored four or five. That's the most frustrating part, I think. And I think I still feel we played our best game in Game 6 and played our hearts out Game 7. And felt like we were kind of robbed, in a sense. We play like that during the regular season and we score.

Q: The crowd at Verizon Center got on you pretty good after a slow start in Game 5. What was that like?
A: The first 10 minutes? Yeah. I think that just stems from expectations. They expect me to create and produce and I hadn't in the first couple of games -- the first three games. But I'm a professional athlete. That doesn't affect me on the ice. But we were all flat that first 10 minutes. And we needed to be better. There's no excuses, but there's reasons why I felt we were flat that game in the first 10 minutes.

Q: What were the reasons for being flat?
A: To be honest with you, I felt like we were flat because of the late night we got in at 5 or 6 o'clock in the morning [because of the fog-delayed flight]. And we were excited for that game and we felt like, 'Okay, we're up ion the series now and we'll finish this off.' Came out flat and couldn't battle back, and for us to win we have to play 60 full minutes and I think that hurt us a little bit. That was the pivotal game. You take that game, it's over.

Q: Were you worried about that late arrival at the time?
A: It happens. It affects you -- your body, your mind.

Q: Tough decision not to play in worlds?
A: Yeah, it is. I would have loved to go. But I did have an injury and George [McPhee] felt that I shouldn't go.

Q: What was the injury?
A: My wrist. ... I took a slash against Columbus [April 3].

Q: Need surgery? How much did it affect you?
A: No. It didn't affect me that much. It's just [that] it's not going to get better if I keep playing.

Q: What's the process to get over the frustration?
A: To be honest with you, staying away from televisions and newspapers. So yeah. It almost took a couple of days -- three days -- to not have the anxiety, almost, and feel like you want to break something.

Q: Wayne Gretzky was [on Washington Post Live recently] and he talked about disappointments in the playoffs and said those experiences are the ones that made the [Oilers] into what they [became]. Is that part of the process that you guys have to go through, as painful as it is?
A: I just read that. Absolutely. Sometimes I don't think people realize it takes a long time to become a good hockey team. And we've become a really good hockey team in a short period of time. And I think that has excited the media and brought these expectations that this needs to happen. And it's going to happen. This organization is a great organization, the coaching staff, the players that we have. It just -- it takes time. And you look at what you just brought up -- Chicago Bulls, they lost, I think, three years in a row before they went on to win six championships. This is a learning process. We learned something last year, and like I said, we learned something bigger this year. Now we have to play 82 games to prepare ourselves to play like a playoff team for next season.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  May 3, 2010; 3:02 PM ET
 
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Boy..tough questions. How bout addressing his continuous piss-poor defense?

Posted by: 850-850 | May 3, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

how about realizing the green is not a "piss-poor" defenseman by any measure. not his strong suit for sure but he's no pylon out there. it's no 1962, defensemen are looked upon to start the rush and score goals, not stand in front of their own net and cross check guys who come across. he's a two time norris trophy finalist. they (the hockey writers) dont give that to "piss poor" defensmen.

what i dont understand is why on break up day he couldn't have the caps PR guys tell the media that greenie would talk with them on monday? that he's too dissapointed to talk coherently about the season that day. might have helped avert some of the criticism he received that day.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | May 3, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Green needs to hit up some skating clinics this summer...

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Green's #1 problem is probably his skating.

He's fast in short-bursts, sure, but he also can't skate backwards very well. Nor can he transition very well.

His defensive game would do wonders if he worked on his skating ability.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

How about addressing why GMGM didn't acquire a top defensive, defenseman to play next to Green so his defensive liabilities weren't exposed? There were guys available at the trade deadline, but GMGM only traded for guys with expiring contracts. Green is No. 3 or No. 4 defenseman on a really good team like San Jose or Detroit. Same weaknesses exist from last year that need to be addressed this summer (top 2nd line center, shutdown defenseman, overall team approach to defense).

Posted by: wizfan89 | May 3, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

@ 850-850: How 'bout addressing the fact that you're irrelevant in the big scheme of the Capitals being a great hockey team. They're young. They'll learn from their mistakes and come back. Unlike you, troglodite.

Posted by: LeftCoastCapsFan | May 3, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

How about addressing your p###-poor attitude? The guy realized he needs to come out and take a lot of the blame on himself and he did. What's he supposed to say, "Mike what about your p###-poor defense; when you gonna improve that?" "Yeah I suck, everyone knows it, I'm quitting hockey tomorrow".

Bonehead.

Posted by: capsfan77 | May 3, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Mike Green is a good hockey player and I hope he wins the Norris this year. The Caps are a good team and I look forward to more than 82 great games next season. I am tired of the smack that has been posted since last week....Get over it now and look forward. It is what is - you are either a Caps fan (a bit deflated but still a fan) or you are not - look forward my friends.....

Posted by: Slammo | May 3, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I'd like you to name one defender who was available at the deadline without an expiring contract.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

How about addressing why GMGM didn't acquire a top defensive, defenseman to play next to Green so his defensive liabilities weren't exposed? There were guys available at the trade deadline, but GMGM only traded for guys with expiring contracts. Green is No. 3 or No. 4 defenseman on a really good team like San Jose or Detroit. Same weaknesses exist from last year that need to be addressed this summer (top 2nd line center, shutdown defenseman, overall team approach to defense).


Posted by: wizfan89 | May 3, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

such as? please enlighten me.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | May 3, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Mike Green plays lazy. I don't know if that makes him lazy, but his play is.

He very often passes very non-chalently and it ends up going bad. He's not particularly attentive when playing the point on the PP - how many pucks get by him? At least two per game. His defense, unless recovering from a miscue is lazy. Those are what I see, game-in, game-out and think most STH and followers wouldn't disagree.

I think he's a great skater, for the most part. I think he has great skill that's still not totally mined. I think he has the potential for a pretty strong career.

But, he needs to step up and be counted.

As much as I love him, he really needs to focus.

Posted by: saintex | May 3, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I still think Mike green needs to go and replaced by a rugged tough dman.

Posted by: riceldi | May 3, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Love Mike Green. He'll be back and better than ever.

All you haters, remember Scott Stevens, Larry Murphy and Sergei Gonchar.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | May 3, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Good interview, Greenie, I'm glad you finally did it. I still believe very stongly in Green (and Semin for that matter.) I don't think either of them should be traded.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | May 3, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

the TEAM lost. granted mike green didn't play well, but to score 3 goals over 3 clinching games is terrible considering this teams scoring prowess. i'm not a mike green apologist or anything...he blew in game 7 and is directly responsible for the first goal...the second was more of a bad bounce...green was actually covering for his partner misplaying the puck off the glass.

whatever...it says a lot about him as a person (not a player) to come back and talk to reporters 5 days afterward.

Posted by: carsonspence | May 3, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

@ carsonspence - Good post.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | May 3, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Scott Stevens was beast from the first game he played with CAPS, Mike Green will NEVER come close to Stevens, you are insulting Stevens just by mentioning Green on the same sentence; tell me what you are smoking...

Posted by: riceldi | May 3, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I thought Greener improved late in the regular season on positioning, and seemed to make smarter decisions and puck-clearing. But in the playoffs it was mostly *poof* and we all seemed to constantly see him and Schultz in replays of Montreal scoring.

imho he has a role just like Al Iafrate and Larry Murphy had roles. I'm all for a shut-down/shot-blocking type D-man signing addition (trade or free agent) but unless BB/gmgm drop their obsession with generally non-hitting puck-mover D-men, it's not happening. :(

Posted by: blackjack65 | May 3, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

green is an offensive defenseman - period. He should not be leading the team in minutes by a D-Man and he should not be a #1 shut down guy. He should be paired on the 2nd line D and I think will be next year once GMGM hopefully upgrades the D for us. He can still get tons of minutes and anchor the PP, but wont be on the ice in crucial moments or hopefully against the other teams top lines. Dare to dream anyways.....

He reminds me of Larry Murphy when he was here and I've posted this before. Everyone would blame LM for everything on the Caps. Fans would woop it up when he touched the puck and begged for him to get traded. He finally got traded and went on to win 4 cups and is now in the hockey hall of fame. Think twice before asking for Green to be traded. I hope he stays.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | May 3, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Green needs to hit up some skating clinics this summer...

Posted by: richmondphil

Puck handling too. His puck handling skills have gone down the toilet.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 3, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I personaly think Green is an amazing talent I think he does skate very well has exceptional stick skill and a great shot.He has fantastic vision and can pass real well too.I think that in the pre season and camps he should be tried out at forward.He deserves the Norris purely for being the highest scoring defender on a juggernaut plus team.Thus his great plus/ minus numbers.However with all that skill I think he can easily be converted to a 80-100 point producer on a wing.He can still play the point on the PP and with his defensive skills I think he could be a selke type guy too.Lets face it Carlson,Alzner,Schultz and Poti are all better defenders in their own zone than Greenie.He isn't a pilon per se but there are way to many times he misses bad on his asignments.How could it hurt to give him a shot at wing we have the Defence there without him anyway.I would also expect us to make a play for Volchenkov.This team has what it takes to win a cup as far as skill goes,we ran into a tough trap in Montreal,we didn't get it done our youth allowed us to get frustrated and we learn and move on.Glory will come to us Caps fans.

Posted by: avischecter | May 3, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

@ riceldi

I was more addressing those who want him traded - Those 3 d men I mentioned got traded only to have their careers sparkle once they left.

Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: Jordan_Kitts | May 3, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

My sense is that GMGM looked at this year as the Pens being the team that we needed to get past the ECF. So he looked for more mobile D that could get the puck out of the zone and move it up the ice. Ie corvo/kaberle type. know the habs knock us of with people like Hall gill. Slow skating shot blocking machine. Lets see what GMGM does next. Can we find a happy medium between a puck moving guy and someone that can take the body

Posted by: samb99 | May 3, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Greens comments says it all. He scores all season and then the playoffs come and He "THINKS" he needs to be a better defensemen. Great players don't think on the ice they react based on instinct.

All that thinking leads him to doing nothing right.

Posted by: jdb70 | May 3, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I think he's a great skater, for the most part. I think he has great skill that's still not totally mined. I think he has the potential for a pretty strong career.

Posted by: saintex | May 3, 2010 3:50 PM |

Green's not a great skater by any means. Yeah, he's fast in short-bursts, but that's about it. He can't really skate backwards that well, and his transitioning is very, very slow.

I totally agree with you that Green comes off as lazy in his play, but that doesn't excuse his skating. Or lack of.

Chara and Myers move with more mobility and jump than Green does, and they're freaks.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Interesting point: "It's funny, there's all of this talk about, 'Is it our system?' The whole season, the question is whether we [could] be a defensive team. Then we get in the playoffs, and it's now it's about, 'Can we score goals?'"

Defense was the big question going in, but it wasn't really the problem. Hold Mike Green accountable, but his role is an offensive defenseman, so hold him accountable for not generating offense, not for not being the super-defensive defenseman everybody wants (but few have) this time of year.

Posted by: Aerocraft67 | May 3, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Everybody should read comment #5 up there, by wizfan89.

It's time for GMGM to go. Thanks for your work, but we need someone else to finish the job. 10 years, 1 playoff series win.

Posted by: SnOvechkin | May 3, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Defense was the problem. Period.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

And yes, I am going to hold Green accountable for his defense. Since..you know..he's a defense man.

No one expects him to be some "super-defensive defenseman", we expect him to make the simple plays.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Puck handling too. His puck handling skills have gone down the toilet.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 3, 2010 4:42 PM

I get what you're saying, but Green's a pretty good puck-handler. He's got very nice hands.

It would probably do him some good to build up his strength with the puck so he doesn't lose it so easily, not necessarily try to work on his puck-handling skills. But in a sense, they are the same thing.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

@samb - I'd be fine if another puck-mover is actually what we got, but in no universe that I know of is Corvo in any way comparable to Kaberle. So many of Corvo's passes end up on the other team - that is not the definition of a puck mover.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 3, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I have a lot more sympathy for Mike Green after reading this piece. He's too nonchalant with his breakout passes for me, but he's obviously a very talented player, and I think he's more physical than he's often given credit for.

This also must have been a very difficult year for him personally. It also takes a big man to admit you've made a mistake, and go face the music after the fact - so big props on that front.

But Carlson's gonna be better.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 3, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

@Timbo_1

agree but i think kaberle is not what we all are looking for. i still think a last minute deal fell apart with Kaberle at the trade deadline. i still think that Green played is best playoff game against the flyers a few years ago. maybe he was more playing than thinking.

Posted by: samb99 | May 3, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Same weaknesses exist from last year that need to be addressed this summer (top 2nd line center, shutdown defenseman, overall team approach to defense).


Posted by: wizfan89 | May 3, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

A shutdown defenseman is something all the fans seem to want but I don't think it is something the team really needs. The team only averaged giving up just over 27 shots a game and not counting EN goals only gave up more then 3 once (in a win). For almost the entire last two games the Habs had little to no control in our zone. So how exactally is a defensive D-man going to help that out?

Everyone also talks about having a better second line center but I think Belenger is a great fit for that spot for us. He is good in his own zone and can win faceoffs. Everyone thinks you need two great centers because for some reason all Caps fans think this team needs to be the Penguins. However look at some of the second line centers of the teams still in the playoffs Filppula (Zetterburg is on the wing), Patrick Sharp, and Scott Gomez. Almost half of the teams left have second line centers that are not top players.

Finally you say we need an better overal team approach to defense. In the last two games we gave up less then 19 shots a game. I think our team defense is plenty strong.

Also people on these boards are going to drive Green away like the fans did with Larry Murphy years back and will only have themselves to blame when they see him winning Cups on other teams.

Posted by: icehammer97 | May 3, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

icehammer97, every single guy you just named make a lot more money than Belanger will.

All 3 of those players are better too, so that's just a bad comparison.

We need a good center who can kill penalties, I say. Defense isn't just about the defenseman.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

agree but i think kaberle is not what we all are looking for. i still think a last minute deal fell apart with Kaberle at the trade deadline. i still think that Green played is best playoff game against the flyers a few years ago. maybe he was more playing than thinking.

Posted by: samb99 | May 3, 2010 5:34 PM

Eh, although he gets classified as a puck-moving d-man, he is still very solid in his own zone.

He's not that big bruiser everyone seems to want, but he's also very good in both zones.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

@samb - good point, I agree MG's much better when he just plays [who isn't!]. Obviously from reading this he puts a lot of pressure on himself, maybe too much.

@ice - I say this as a pro-Belanger guy, but he just doesn't have that burst that top-2 centers possess [Malkin, Plekanec, Sakic] - hell, even of those guys you mention, Sharp doesn't bowl me over, but Gomez can fly [I think BB called him fastest skater he'd seen first time he saw him live] and Filppula has a terrific burst and first step. I like EB a lot, I just don't see him becoming an elite setup guy capable of ever hitting 50 assists.

Even Chicago - they split up Hossa, Kane and Toews. For the reverse example, look at the Bruins the last 40 years - 1 line ain't gonna get it done in the playoffs.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 3, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Autographed Green Jersey for sale.

Posted by: joeshred | May 3, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Out of the guys he mentioned, I'd take Sharp hands down, over Valterri or Scott Gomez.

Especially if we are considering their contracts. (Gomez's is one of the worst in the NHL)

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Defense was the problem. Period.


Posted by: richmondphil |


Those lat 3 losses we didn't exactly let in a lot of goals...or a lot of shots for that matter...when you are scoring 1 goal a game and have puck posession for 3/4 of the game I would say offense is your problem

Posted by: capscoach | May 3, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

icehammer97: Bringing a shutdown d-man in allows the staff to put that d-man out against the other team's top line allowing Green to be more creative playing against the other team's 2nd line at best.

Green needs to improve his skating? He doesn't transition well? He doesn't have good hands? I just don't understand these kind of statements. He is top goal scorer, and point man among defensemen two years running. To make those kind of statements is just mind boggling because those type of definciences in a hockey player's game does not allow for the type of scoring he has accomplished. Green may also need to hit more often, but if there was a compiliation of all the hits delivered by our defensemen this year Green would have the most explosive hits.

Please watch the interview(s) on the Caps webpage. Reading the interview compared to seeing his facial expressions are two different worlds. It has been 5 days since game 7 and he still feels like I did when the horn blew last Wednesday. To suggest he doesn't care, or any of you care more than him, is just silly.

Rest well Caps and we'll be there to support the team that ends up on the ice. I ask fellow fans to be patient next year and not to disect and nitpick every game next season and not to treat a two game losing streak as the end of the world.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Here is an article on the loss that some fans should read. Take it for what it's worth but it sort of dispells a lot of the "the Caps style can never succeed in the playoffs" since it was just the goalie stopping all of these shots taken from prime locations. Just because it didn't succeed does not necessarily mean it can't succeed.

http://www.behindthenethockey.com/2010/5/2/1454397/ex-post-facto-or-why-the-capitals

Posted by: sgm3 | May 3, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

How many times do I have to explain this?

I won't, but go ahead, whatever..offense was our problem. Lets not change anything to our defense and work on fixing that offense. We'll see how far that will take us.

Mind-blowing the amount of people who still try to say it wasn't defense. Here's a hint; when your team scores early and can't trade goals with the other team, you start to trap and collapse.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Having a better defense and a more perfect Mike Green would be fine, but defense is not the problem that lost this series. Montreal won 3 games by one goal, and two of those were 2-1. That's not a defensive failure.

I agree with capsfansince74 and icehammer97. richmondphil's prescription for improving Mike Green's play might be worthwhile, but I don't think improving the play of a two-time Norris nominee is the key to playoff success. I also think the sentiment at 3:35 was right on, so not sure where the disagreement is.

Posted by: Aerocraft67 | May 3, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock1

Did you really try to say we can't critique Green because he put up a certain amount of numbers? Do you really feel someone who "puts up those numbers" can't have skating or puck-handling deficiencies?

That's more "ridiculous" that the initial claim.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I never said improving Green's game was the key to playoff success.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

And again, Green's skating deficiencies are not apparent when he's rushing from zone to zone with the puck. As I said, he has great short-burst speed, but that's about it.

So fanohock1, what does Green need to work on, specifically, then?

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

@richmondphil

I think most people, me included, are completely in favor of improving the D(Volchenkov). But, just because defense was the team's greatest defenciency does not necessarily mean it was the cause of the game 5, 6, and 7 losses.

The defense was solid to good in all those games and better than I was anticipating.

The Caps lost those games because they couldn't score goals. The Caps didn't score a goal in games 6 or 7 until there was less than 5 minutes remaining. That's not going to win you many games. The Caps were trailing 1-0 with less than 4 minutes remaining in game 7 and were dominating the zone time. How can that loss be blamed on a lack defense?

The Caps lost those games due to an inability to finish and a terrible PP.

However, addressing the defensive defencies should be the Caps first priority this offseason (Volchenkov) with acquiring a good 2nd line center as the 2nd priority.

Posted by: sgm3 | May 3, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

You can critique all you want but bad skaters and puck handlers make it to the NHL. Erksine and Steckel fit that discription. Bradley and Chimera are fast but have hands of stone. Those 4 players, just from the Capitals, could never put up the numbers that Green has even if they played 25-28 minutes a game like Green. Why? Because Green is a world class skater and puck handler. Team Canada left Green off the roster because of his decision making, not because he wasn't a top skater or puck handler.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil: Green has to work on his decision making and not overthinking the game when the games get more important.

Also, EVERY NHL player has a personal powerskating instructor for summer training. When/if that is talked about regarding Mike Green this summer it's not to correct difficiences it's to stay in shape over the summer because these guys think about hockey 365 days a year.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Team Canada had way to many choices on the blue line so they did not pick Green. Any other country would have taken him.

Also probably they would not have struggled as much in their first few games if they would have had his offense contribution on the PP.

In the end Canada could not lose regardless they take him or not.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | May 3, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Finally you say we need an better overal team approach to defense. In the last two games we gave up less then 19 shots a game. I think our team defense is plenty strong.

Posted by: icehammer97 | May 3, 2010 5:38 PM

those last two games mtl got an early lead and went into their shell - they pretty much were happy with only clearing their zone. those games are not typical of the caps defense, giving up an early lead is. imo - they do need help on D.

Posted by: Capt_Kirk_in_AZ | May 3, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

But, just because defense was the team's greatest defenciency does not necessarily mean it was the cause of the game 5, 6, and 7 losses.
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I never said it was the cause of the games 5, 6, and 7, I said that it's our main problem. Which you have agreed with.


The Caps lost those games because they couldn't score goals. The Caps didn't score a goal in games 6 or 7 until there was less than 5 minutes remaining. That's not going to win you many games. The Caps were trailing 1-0 with less than 4 minutes remaining in game 7 and were dominating the zone time. How can that loss be blamed on a lack defense?

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Again, when you score early and you know your team simply cannot trade goals with the other team, what do you do? You collapse and trap.

I said probably 1000 times, that the non-adjusting offense was a major problem. However, that does not take away from the fact that the defense was just...bad.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Finally you say we need an better overal team approach to defense. In the last two games we gave up less then 19 shots a game. I think our team defense is plenty strong.

Posted by: icehammer97 | May 3, 2010 5:38 PM

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Quantity not so big an issue as quality.

Quality of shots though pretty good because no defenders blocking them, and Montreal sometimes had us pinned badly on the penalty kill - they scored powerplay goal.

The Caps need defense and especially penalty killers on defense that can win battles for loose puck behind and beside the net.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | May 3, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

see..Capt Kirk is on board with what I am trying to express.

Obviously our non-adjusting offense was an issue, but the real issue starts with the defense.

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Also, EVERY NHL player has a personal powerskating instructor for summer training. When/if that is talked about regarding Mike Green this summer it's not to correct difficiences it's to stay in shape over the summer because these guys think about hockey 365 days a year.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 6:20 PM

I'm aware that professional hockey players have year round trainers.

What does that have to do with him attending clinics? You are aware that NHL players, from different teams, take clinics together in the off-season?


And yes, Green's decision-making is a problem. But his skating is not very good, and there's really no way to slice it. Using your logic on why Green's skating is his deficiency (by the way, you never told me why I was wrong except for the fact that he put up points..which I reject as a valid argument against my claim), lets apply it to Ovi.

" Ovi needs to improve his defensive awareness? He doesn't back check well? I just don't understand these kind of statements. He is top goal scorer, and point man among forwards since he arrived. To make those kind of statements is just mind boggling because those type of definciences in a hockey player's game does not allow for the type of scoring he has accomplished. Why does he need to back check when he has the puck all the time and was a +40 something, right? "

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

The Caps need defense and especially penalty killers on defense that can win battles for loose puck behind and beside the net.

Posted by: yesisaiditfirst | May 3, 2010 6:26 PM |

I agree.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:30 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1, you make it seem like every NHL player has nothing to work on ever. They made it to the NHL, so they have no problems, they just need to stay in shape and such and maintain whatever game they currently have.

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Why? Because Green is a world class skater.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 6:16 PM |

No, he's not. And to jump from a good skater to "world-class" skater in an effort to refute my claim is a bit overbearing.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

There's been so many different posts that it's impossible to single anyone out.

Green was probably right to wait until he cooled down before talking to the press. The emotions were probably too raw.

And, as other people have pointed out, remember Larry Murphy, the offensive defenseman in the Caps past who everyone wanted to get rid of and after he was traded away, he became a Hall of Famer.

Moreover, defensemen take longer to mature, which I'm sure applies to Green, along with his defensive partner, Schultz. I'll admit that we could use a shutdown defenseman for our team, such as Volchenkov. We need many different sorts of talents to become a championship team and the skill sets of Green and Schultz can go a long way in that department.

And, speaking of criticized guys, there's also Alex Semin, who is the favorite target for criticism in Caps land. No, I would not get rid of him, either. In many ways, even though they play different positions, he reminds me of Larry Murphy.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | May 3, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

And if I come off as a bit rough or mean right now, I don't mean it. I was up all night trying to finish a deadline, and I am a bit out of synch.

I will express my points succinctly;
1) Green needs to work on his skating.
2) Defense is the team's main problem. Obviously our offense was a problem in the last series, but the team's problems start and end with defense.
3) Volchenkov.

LETS GO CAPS! (Well..for now, lets go Douglas Murray and the Sharks!)

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

the best thing they can dor for Green is put some pressure off him and see him for what he really is... he's an offensive d-man who's never gonna be a shutdown d-man or defensive anchor.

the best thing we can hope for is he becomes the kinda player that Brian Leetch was for the Rangers... they need to find his Jeff Beukeboom, not sure if Schultz can be that type unless he gains about 20 pounds and becomes much stronger physically.

Posted by: joek443 | May 3, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

And, just to clarify, I never wanted to trade Green. I want him to work on his problems, which he has a lot of.

@Capsfan75

Nor do I want to trade Semin. :)

(However, depending on many, many different factors, I wouldn't be opposed to maybe seeing him dangled at the deadline...but that's too far away and it's impossible to account for all the events which could influence this decision right now..)

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

the best thing they can dor for Green is put some pressure off him and see him for what he really is... he's an offensive d-man who's never gonna be a shutdown d-man or defensive anchor.

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No one is asking him to be a shutdown guy though. Well, at least I'm not. I just want to see him play a little better. And yes, I mean offensively better too.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

I would get rid of Semin primarily because it's obvious he really does not want to be in the NHL at all, let alone put out enough to win a Cup.

I was watching something, or reading something over the last few days and it involved some old guys talking about the Islanders back in the day winning a Stanley Cup. They walked into the locker room after the win expecting the Islanders to be partying it up and hanging off the ceiling, etc. Instead what they saw were guys covered in ice bags who could barely keep their eyes open or even dress themselves.

The point is, that's the type of dedication it takes to win a cup and Semin, from what I've seen, does not have it.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 3, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Lloyd, that is getting dangerously close to just pure speculation for my taste.

The guy doesn't talk much, but I wouldn't doubt his desire to be here or in the NHL. Obviously there is a certain something lacking from Semin's drive and game, but I wouldn't doubt his commitment to want to be here, and play hockey in the best league in the world.


Plus, the minus 40 goals would hurt more than we like to think. Although 40 goals isn't as much to us as it is to the Bruins, look at how much losing Kessel crippled their offense.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Mike Green is a fraud! Plain and Simple. He has alot to learn when it comes to this game and his play up to this point has not justified the amount of money he is getting paid. Lots of talent, but still lots to learn both on the ice and off the ice. As a professional you are expected to face the music when things don't go right! If you are not mature enough to do so, then you are no professional. Hopefully something happens over the summer and he comes back the player we all hope he can be.

Also, I just wanted to take a moment to thank Tarik El Bashir and the other bloggers for another great season of caps reporting. He is always on top of everything and this is the place I come when I want Caps news! Thank you Tarik and friends.

Posted by: rockinthered1 | May 3, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if this is something he can change at this point but Green takes too big of a windup on his slapshots... just too darn slow and too many of his shots get blocked in the playoffs.

He needs to watch the video of Al MacInnis, a righty offensive d-man just like Green, and see how quickly he used to fire his lethal slapshots.

Posted by: joek443 | May 3, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

get Kaberle from the leafs ....he can play pp point so we can get ov off the point

Posted by: wendel2 | May 3, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil: Just because you declare that Green needs to work on his skating does not mean that he does. That's just your opinion, it doesn't make it a fact.

The proof I provided was that he has scored the most goals and points among defensemen the last two year. Yes, his point output without a doubt proves that point. He has not been leading the Kettler's men's league in scoring, he has been leading the NHL. His defensive issues, which have improved every season, has nothing to do with his skating, it is his decision making.

Look, I don't want to argue, I am going to watch some hockey even though it pains me to do so. Have a good night and a good time debating fans, it's like therapy for us.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse


richmondphil: Just because you declare that Green needs to work on his skating does not mean that he does. That's just your opinion, it doesn't make it a fact.

The proof I provided was that he has scored the most goals and points among defensemen the last two year. Yes, his point output without a doubt proves that point. He has not been leading the Kettler's men's league in scoring, he has been leading the NHL. His defensive issues, which have improved every season, has nothing to do with his skating, it is his decision making.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 7:37 PM |
Lets apply your logic to your favorite hockey player, Sidney Crosby.

Paragraph after paragraph, post after post, all you do is try to discredit his play. Well..since he put up so many points this year, I guess he has no more problems with his game, right?

Cheechoo scored 40+ goals one year, there were obviously no problems with his hands or shooting game. lol....


I bet if you ask Green the #1 thing he needs to work on, he won't say decision-making. Don't know if he'd say his skating, but it's almost so obvious, it pains me to read you try to refute otherwise on such..ungrounded laurels.

Green is a world class skater because he scored "x" amount of points and "x" amount of goals.

That statement, nevermind the empirical fact if Green is in fact a world-class skater or not, is just goofy. Illogical.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure if this is something he can change at this point but Green takes too big of a windup on his slapshots... just too darn slow and too many of his shots get blocked in the playoffs.

He needs to watch the video of Al MacInnis, a righty offensive d-man just like Green, and see how quickly he used to fire his lethal slapshots.

Posted by: joek443 | May 3, 2010 7:10 PM |

Dude, he led the NHL in goals. You're not allowed to critique his shot, because obviously scoring the most goals means he has no problems with his shot. duh.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

The story shared about the Islanders was from none other than Wayne Gretzky:

Here's the quote:

"WAYNE GRETZKY: Well, first of all, I think obviously there's a rivalry that was created between us and the Islanders and a lot of people mistook that for a little bit of a hatred.

Obviously, when you play you have to have that feeling of disliking a team. But as a group, we had so much respect for the Islanders as a team, not only for their team accomplishments but for what they did and how unselfish they were. And losing that first Final, walking by their locker room, the one thought we had as players was: it was going to be a dreadful sight going by their locker room watching them celebrate and having a tremendous time.

And as we found out by going by that locker room, you know, it was pretty quiet in there. And really, we sort of walked out healthy out of that locker room and they were pretty beat up. And we realized then and there that it takes a lot more than just wanting to win.

You were going to have to earn it and it was going to take a lot to win a Stanley Cup and be a champion. And that's what we learned from the Islanders."

Here's the URL for the entire interview with hockey legends Wayne Gretzky and Mark Messier.

http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/05/wayne_gretzkymark_messier_prer.html

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

And I could very well be wrong in my opinion of Green (by the way, I don't think I mentioned how the NBC cast was basically saying the same thing I was..but I know, it's NBC, what do they know?), but that's besides the point now.

Your argument against my claim is just bad. I haven't been convinced that Green doesn't need to work on his skating at all.

If you tell me and give me specific examples of why Green's skating is fine right now, go ahead. But what my eyeballs tell me is that Green has a long way to go in his skating ability.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil: If you watch Green's interview he talks about how he was thinking defense to make people happy which most likely negatively effected his offense. That answer of a question alone indicates the problems that surface are in his mind, thinking instead of playing, his decision making. Don't you ever claim that Crosby is my favorite player because people that don't frequent this board will assume I am a troll that comes on here. You choose to critique the two-time Norris trophy finalist claiming he has to work on his skating, I claim he is a world class skater. Are you right because you live in Richmond?

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil: If you watch Green's interview he talks about how he was thinking defense to make people happy which most likely negatively effected his offense. That answer of a question alone indicates the problems that surface are in his mind, thinking instead of playing, his decision making. Don't you ever claim that Crosby is my favorite player because people that don't frequent this board will assume I am a troll that comes on here. You choose to critique the two-time Norris trophy finalist claiming he has to work on his skating, I claim he is a world class skater. Are you right because you live in Richmond?

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Dude, he led the NHL in goals. You're not allowed to critique his shot, because obviously scoring the most goals means he has no problems with his shot. duh.


Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse


Green led the league in goals, that's news to me.. you must be drinking something really good.

All I saw in the last 7 games is him taking his patented slow and big windups and getting 99 percent of his shots blocked by Hal Gill and his partners in D... Gill is the d-man who has tormented the Caps in the last two playoff series.

I remember some hockey genius/know it all on here saying Gill is a terrible d-man over and over again for over a year.. wonder who that is

Posted by: joek443 | May 3, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Whoa joek443...did you really just turn my sarcastic point about how points and goals don't correlate to deficiencies into a chance to troll me?

So, not only do you have the reading comprehension of a troll, you just are one.

Since your adept brain seemed to have missed what I was articulating, fanohock1 is saying that there's a direct correlation between skating ability and point production.

Green, who led the NHL in goals for d-men, by fanohock1's logic cannot have any deficiencies in his shot since he scored the most goals.

Do you get it now? I know, a lot of information to take in at once. Don't breath while reading it.

As for the Gill comment, he sucks. I said that and I will say it again. You know what I also said last year? That Gill is one of those defenders who turns their game up in the playoffs. But, I guess your selective reading didn't pick that up.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

You choose to critique the two-time Norris trophy finalist claiming he has to work on his skating, I claim he is a world class skater. Are you right because you live in Richmond?

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 8:02 PM |

Again, what are you basing this off? Show me videos of where Green represents his "world class" skating ability.

The only evidence you have given me, repetitively, is point production.

So Johnathan Cheechoo was a "world class" sniper at one point? Jim Carey was a "world class" goalie, too?

I have quipped on Green's skating all year...funny and fitting that it's not until the end of the year that I get a negative response to that comment.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I remember some hockey genius/know it all on here saying Gill is a terrible d-man over and over again for over a year.. wonder who that is

Posted by: joek443 | May 3, 2010 8:05 PM |

And for being a guy who seemingly loves to call out people for old comments, you said the Caps would destroy the Habs, Flyers, and make it to the Finals without any sweat off their brow.

Yeah, we both can play this childish game.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Also, Carcillo is funny...

Quit diving.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

So, not only do you have the reading comprehension of a troll, you just are one.

Since your adept brain seemed to have missed what I was articulating, fanohock1 is saying that there's a direct correlation between skating ability and point production.

Green, who led the NHL in goals for d-men, by fanohock1's logic cannot have any deficiencies in his shot since he scored the most goals.

Do you get it now? I know, a lot of information to take in at once. Don't breath while reading it.

As for the Gill comment, he sucks. I said that and I will say it again. You know what I also said last year? That Gill is one of those defenders who turns their game up in the playoffs. But, I guess your selective reading didn't pick that up.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse


that's funny, I don't have divided loyalty unlike some... you know, the people who have multiple favorite teams in the same sport, " I love the Kings.. oh wait, I love the Caps!"

what's next? are we gonna have people wearing the Red Sox and Yankee hats at the same time??

Posted by: joek443 | May 3, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh, is that world class right there?

The tons of videos on youtube showing his bad plays clearly don't matter here, only the videos which support your claim.

I don't even care anymore. If you want to think Green is a "world-class" skater, go ahead. You and the 1% of the Hockey world. Agree to disagree. (right squishy??!)

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

joek443, you just completely avoided the fact that you just royally misconstrued my comment. And then you troll me with more of your selective reading?

yawn.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

TED, PLEASE CONTINUE THE EXORCISM!

You changed the color of the jerseys, SAME RESULT!
You changed buildings, SAME RESULT!

NOW CHANGE THE NAME!
They never should have been the Capitals.
The chant SUCKS! FLAT AS CAN BE, SAY IT
"Let's go Caps, Let's go Caps" FLAT!
They should have been the
WASHINGTON LIONS!
Try that chant, LET'S GO LI-ONS !

HERE WE GO LI-ONS, HERE WE GO!

Continue the EXORCISM!

Posted by: 1-20-09 | May 3, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Lions seems a bit cliche, don't ya think?

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

i don't have a major problem with the way Green played. And he showed a lot more intensity than I've ever seen from him in the playoffs. The thing is, he's judged by media, the org, and fans mainly on how he produces offensively. Even if he had played an incredible defensive series he still would've been taking the brunt of criticism if he didn't produce offensively.

His effort over 7 games was better than most of our other players.

But...I didn't necessarily get a feeling from the Caps players as a whole that they wanted to win this series really badly. Not until game 6. By then the damage was done. Not enough players on this team really hate to lose. It seems just like a well-worn cliche. Not every player gave it his all and frankly most of them only put together two games of overall solid effort. And the fact that they were allowed to skate by with a less than stellar effort all season probably didn't help either.

Posted by: cstanton1 | May 3, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

As much as I love hockey, is anyone else having trouble watching these playoffs? For many years the Caps made the playoffs as a middle seed, so when they inevitably exited, at least the teams still competing were considered superior or at least equal to the Caps. This year was "supposed" to be the Caps year, and it disgusts me to watch these teams who barely made the playoffs still playing. I can't believe I haven't come to terms with the Caps 1st round failure yet. Maybe I'll switch to the Weather Channel or something that doesn't make me mad.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | May 3, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong with the name LIONS?
Washington D.C has a history with hockey and the name Lions. It's so much better then the Capitals. The fans can't do anything with the word CAPITALS!

Time to move on, remember the bullets?

Posted by: 1-20-09 | May 3, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

And he showed a lot more intensity than I've ever seen from him in the playoffs.

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More than the Philly series?

Green was pretty bad the first few games, but his game picked up as the series went on. I still don't think he necessarily played a good series, but really, none of our defenders did. Even Carlson, as great as he was, was extremely lazy on that 2nd goal in game 7.

Collectively, the defense isn't up to snuff and the individual play of one or two guys can't mask the shortcomings of the defense.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Nothing wrong with it persay..it's just a bit cliche.

And I would say they should revert back to the Bullets if..you know..that gun incident didn't happen.

PWCHC = Panthers !

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

PWHC..one too many C's.

That Lions team goes too far back for me.
Caps should re-locate to Richmond to replace the Gades. Kidding...

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Satan just got burnnnnnnnneddddddd.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 3, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Somethings got to change. To many years like this. Not making the playoffs is better then this.
The names of the players change but excuses are the same. The coaches change
but the results don't.

Posted by: 1-20-09 | May 3, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil: I never claimed Green doesn't make mistakes, as a matter of fact I said his decision making is an issue. You asked for proof of his skating ability. All you have to do is watch the videos and you can see his superior skating ability. There are examples of his transitioning from skating backwards to forward while blowing past a forechecker, blowing past defensemen lazily chasing the puck into their zone, stickhandling through defensemen, winning battles on the boards, throwing crushing checks, burying unbelievable one-timers. I offered video proof of his skating skills yet you still want to use your opinion as your proof.

You are in rare form tonight richmondphil, are you gonna demand we meet in person tough guy? I wive in apawrtment fawr g wichmond. You started with the insults.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

For the Caps organization everything has changed at some point. The ownership the management, as I said before the teams colors and location, players and coaches. And nothing changes. So what's left?
The name. I said the Bullets before just because they changed their name, to show it can be done.

Posted by: 1-20-09 | May 3, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Mike Green doesn't get paid over $5 mil/year becaue of his defensive skills, he gets paid to produce offensively. Since the Flyers series 2 years ago, he has one goal and 11 assists and 21 playoff games. He's over a point/game d-man during the same period in the regular season.

Guys like Coffey, Bourque and Leetch all maintained their offensive production in the playoffs. In 95 playoff games Leetch has 28 goals and 97 points (11G, 34Pts in '94 when they won the Cup). His production actually went up in the playoffs.

Posted by: joek443 | May 3, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

A lot of people are missing the point. Everyone knows he is a offensive defenseman, thats fine. But that doesn't mean he can be terrible on D. Average or even below average would be fine. But in the playoffs he has been the worst I've ever seen. It's almost impossible to win with the guy. The team has to be so much better then the other team to win with him out there.

Trade him, and who cares who we get, if anyone would have just filled in for Mike we win this series. Just call a guy up, doesn't matter, its an improvement.

Posted by: jrednoring | May 3, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

One last thing the Caps even changed mascots, same result. From the owners to the mascots and everything in between and I mean everything has changed but the name. With the same results year after year after year after year.

Only 2 thing have stayed the same since 1974-75, the name and not winning a Stanley Cup. Think about it.

Posted by: 1-20-09 | May 3, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Green's main problem is mental. BB has put a tremendous amount of workload on Green's shoulders. Mike thinks too much instead of playing with instinct.

Having Carlson and Alzner maturing, means less minutes for Green next year. Less minutes will translate into an improved #52.

For those of you who want Green gone, you'll be the same one's crying for an offensive defensemen when he's gone.

Give the guy a couple more years to fine tune the mental part of his game.

Posted by: puckman | May 3, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Corvo is a cancer. Not trying to be insensitive. All great organizations cleanse themselves of worthless eaters. Some of the worthless eaters (ie. "passengers") have been here before Corvo got here.

GMGM, clean up the "chemistry" mess you made at the deadline in the off-season.

I think we've had plenty of time to learn how to win. Don't want to hear any of that lameness again.

Don't talk about the expectations of this organization any more. We need to be far more humble.

"Is this the year?" Hell, we can't make it past the second round. Don't even think about asking that dumb-a$$ question until we actually accomplish something.

Presidents Trophy...that and $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee.

One thing at a time, boys. Let's refocus on what needs to be done here.

Posted by: WCAPS1 | May 4, 2010 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Maybe I will want a offensive defenseman, but I can promise I wont want Mike Green. I wanted him off the team this whole year. After watching him last year in the playoffs I couldn't believe they brought him back. Look you can have a bad series and I can take it. You can't be as bad as Mike Green has been. Whether its mental or not, its a problem, and I watch to many games to sit and watch one guy ruin the whole year. He's done it 2 years in a row. How many times can he play soo bad before you wont want him. Its not like he plays good offense in the postseason.

Posted by: jrednoring | May 4, 2010 1:44 AM | Report abuse

"As much as I love hockey, is anyone else having trouble watching these playoffs? For many years the Caps made the playoffs as a middle seed, so when they inevitably exited, at least the teams still competing were considered superior or at least equal to the Caps. This year was "supposed" to be the Caps year, and it disgusts me to watch these teams who barely made the playoffs still playing. I can't believe I haven't come to terms with the Caps 1st round failure yet. Maybe I'll switch to the Weather Channel or something that doesn't make me mad.

Posted by: kcbrichmond | May 3, "

I'm surprised to be watching these playoff games myself---well stated, kcbrichmond. I'm not at all impressed with the Bruins/Flyers games (although I am glad that Boston has won two.) I think there would have been great games to watch had Caps played either San Jose, Detroit, Vancouver or Chicago at some point---I especially think the Caps would have had high scoring games against Chicago.

I watch the MTL/PITT games in small doses only while hoping that MTL wins.

Keep Mike Green and Alexander Semin, please, GMGM!

Posted by: dccitizen1 | May 4, 2010 2:55 AM | Report abuse

Someon said this last week and I agree... what this team needs is an AWESOME sports psychologist!

Posted by: capscoach | May 4, 2010 6:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm shocked to hear Green believes that concentrating more on being better defensively hurt his offensive production. In Game 7, three plays in particular stood out - one for decision making and theother two just lack of hustle.

The first was the offensive zone cross-check on Markov which allowed Montreal to break our backs and score first on that 4 on 3 with 29 seconds remaining in the 1st period. The game psyche really took a hit after that PPG and it could have been avoided altogether.

The second and third both stand out to me as just lack of effort or just not going 100% when the other guy is. In the 2nd period the Caps were trying to get some momentum going and the puck got sent back down towards our end. Mike Green is fast and he had the upper hand on that puck but he didn't skate hard for it. Travis Moen busted tail, out-hustled Green, beat him to the puck and took it hard to the net. Green hooked him after losing the upper hand on the whole play. The Caps killed off the penalty but their momentum took a big hit and out best offensive players had to sit while we attempt the kill.

In the late third period, with the Caps getting desperate, Green makes almost the same kind of lack of hustle play. This time it led to the series clinching goal. Puck got sent into our end down the right boards and I think the Caps were trying to get a line change because Green had the shortest line and upper hand on the puck. He slacked and played it casually - less than all out - Max Lapierre, the lightning quick forward (being facetious) outworked Green by a) beating him or tying him to the puck, and b) hitting him, knocking it loose where Moore pucks it up goes in alone and scores. That goal put Montreal up 2-0 with about 4 minutes to play and essentially clinched the series.

Both of the last two sequences were lack of hustle. Thus interview was soft on Green. I'd like to ask him if he ever watches how casual or how little intensity his game displays. If he cares, his style doesn't echo it. Ever since Boudreau took over and Green found his comfort zone with this coach, his game has relaxed almost to the point of being too casually played. That has nothing to do with being more defensively minded. Use your speed and skills to be defensive, but use them. Don't loaf or go 50% when you have to eat a guy to the puck!

We don't have the luxury of seeing films on demand from 2007-2008 when Green was under Hanlon. I don't recall him playing as casually or appearing to go less than 100% on back checks or chase downs then. He relaxed when Boudreau took over - defensively.

Posted by: cwiseman | May 4, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

The more hockey I watch now, the angrier and more depressed I get. Now I go bak to the trade deadline. What we needed was a physical, stay at home defensemen that could play a lot of minutes, kill penalties. What we got was Corvo, and Jurchina. We also got Belanger, who didn't help the penalty kill, and has no offensive upside.

Then we have pompus McPhee saying he doesn't believe in overpaying for anyone. I wonder what deals he turned down. The Caps had more room under the cap than any team in the east. They have 3 goalie in their system, and many good prospects. McPhee has not earned the right to say he doesn't believe in over paying. This was the year to over pay a little. Thanks George.

Posted by: underpants2 | May 4, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

The guy doesn't talk much, but I wouldn't doubt his desire to be here or in the NHL. Obviously there is a certain something lacking from Semin's drive and game, but I wouldn't doubt his commitment to want to be here, and play hockey in the best league in the world.


Plus, the minus 40 goals would hurt more than we like to think. Although 40 goals isn't as much to us as it is to the Bruins, look at how much losing Kessel crippled their offense.

Posted by: richmondphil

Yeah, I could be wrong. I'm no expert. It just sucks when our #2 scorer doesn't produce most of the time, especially when you need him to. I just don't see him in the same league as other #2 scorers (i.e. Malkin, Datsyuk) and that's who he needs to be comparable too if we're going to get a cup.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 4, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

In addition, Semin is just such a wild card, I think he's too risky and a little too expensive for his return on investment. Maybe I'm taking crazy pills but I see what I see and I think I only missed watching one regular season game this year.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 4, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

So the reason he was so bad defensively is because he was focused too much on playing defensively? What a joke! Good thing for Canada he won't be playing with them this May. I hope we trade this fool i'm tired of his lame excuses....I would love to see what his hockey IQ is I can't picture it being very hight. I don't understand how hard it is to sell a fake slap shot then move away from the sliding defenseman to take another shot? PATHETIC

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I can't get one question about the penalty that cost the caps goal #1 in game #7 that was such a bad one?

Posted by: tony325 | May 4, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Plus you gotta wonder how many of Semin's goals were bloated by the fact we play in the SE division. I know he usually has multi goal games against Carolina and Atlanta.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 4, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

What MOST of you people who support Green are talking about is crap that he did during the regular season.....WHO CARES!!!!! He can't play under pressure, he has AWFUL instincts defensively even offensively for that matter...I vote we trade him for a bag of pucks

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

I vote we trade him for a bag of pucks

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 8:20 AM

Yawn.

Posted by: Fro_ | May 4, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

"I can't get one question about the penalty that cost the caps goal #1 in game #7 that was such a bad one?

Posted by: tony325 |"

Tony325, it was a very questionable call for goalie interference. The ref didn't even have a decent line of sight. Knuble barely brushed Halak, who was busy dropping down into the butterfly position as the puck flew by him. The league official supported the ref by saying they were cracking down on goalie interference. If that goal had been allowed, the tide might have turned.

But you'll be reminded on this blog that you have to let it go---that wasn't the sole reason the Caps lost the series.

This week it seems to be Green's fault. Or Bruce Boudreau's. Or George McPhee's. Or Semin's. Or Ovi's. During the regular season the fans take turns excoriating different players. Schultz. Semin. Theo. etc. etc.

It'll be interesting to see what changes are made for next year. All I know is that I'll be looking forward to an entertaining season and a better performance in the playoffs for 2010/2011.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | May 4, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

@LeftCoastCapsFan: First off if you are going to call someone names (and what are you 12) at least spell it correctly (troglodYte). Secondly, I am willing to bet that you have NEVER skated in a hockey game. Your input is so asinine that I am embarrassed that you refer to yourself as a CAPS fan. They will learn from this? Why didn't last year serve as a wake-up in your theory. If losing in the second round as a two-seed after being up 2-0, isn't jolting enough, what makes you think that this is any more valuable. Everyone else can see that defense is a huge problem. We are here discussing our opinions and offering up our solutions, but you come on and name call. Nice contribution to an adult conversation.

Posted by: stop_it | May 4, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

A person must to show signs of HAVING a heart, to know what "heart wrenching" is!

Posted by: caphcky | May 4, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Is there any season ticket holder that is considering not re-newing for next season. I would like to get season ticket but I'm told that there is a waiting list.

Thanks for any feedback/info.

Posted by: instinct227 | May 4, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Wow.....the best thing we could do for MG and the CAPS is sign a real STUD stay at home D-man. This takes ALL the pressure off MG for having to be a minute muncher,a PP quaterback,and being on the ice with the other teams best lines all the time.

Ive seen some MMG bashing before, but this is the first time I,ve seen anyone saying he doesnt skate very well. I dont believe skating is an issue with hime at all.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | May 4, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Green is in desperate need of a sports psychologist. He has read too much of his own hype and it screws with his head. It seems like he doesn’t know if he is coming of going half the time. Green is a very skilled player with a very fragile melon.

Posted by: brihobbs | May 4, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

I vote we trade him for a bag of pucks

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 8:20 AM

Yawn.

Posted by: Fro_ | May 4, 2010 8:38 AM

You can be traded too

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Green is a liability in the playoffs bottom line every year that he plays with Jeff Schultz who is the most overrated player on the caps team and was AWFUL for a second post season also....SIGN VOLCHENKOV PLEASE!

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

CHOKING DOGS!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | May 4, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

mike green is a good offensive dman and needs a defensive dman to be paired with the same people that were calling for larry murphy to be run out of town are calling for green to be true caps fan know greens talents at least the caps will get rid of these bandwagon jumpers and only true fans will be there LETS GO CAPS

Posted by: baltraven52 | May 4, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Don't know if anyone caught this, but the NHL commissioner stated that the Penguin stole the cup last year. Conspiracy, damn right! Do be do be do!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE2dI4qnoiA

Posted by: puckman | May 4, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Does no one realize that the Caps are fundamentally flawed and not built for the playoffs? They have average goalies and probably the worst defense in the league. The majority of teams in the NHL can clamp down on D and shut down Ovie if they want to - teams proved this during the season. I love the guy, but my point is other teams have shut down Ds. We have NO ability to shut down anyone in NHL. Case in point, Camallari and Plekanic - probably the only 2 offensive talents on Canadiens team scored basically at will, every game of the series. Bottom line, Mike Green, the "cornerstone" of our D, who has more ice time than any other Cap HAS to go OR be converted to a forward. All this convo about skating clinics for Green is worthless - he will NEVER be a shutdown D guy. Caps need to trade him and built D around a Chara/Gill/Pronger like player. I love Semin, but he is weak and not physical. He will NEVER get in front of the net like Knuble and get the dirty goals. So he will score his 30-40 in regular season and get shutdown by a gritty playoff team every year. Sooo, trade Semin OR place him on line with 2 Knuble/Guerrin like guys. Trade Fleishman. He is soft and not as talented as Semin. Finally, does anyone on this post actually think we can win with Boudreau? Yeah he is a nice, likeable guy, but I, for one, don't believe he can take the Caps past the 2nd round of playoffs. Does anyone think the team has the confidence in him to get it done after 3 terribly disappointing playoffs? When the #1 team in the regular season blows a 3-1 lead in 1st round of playoffs, someone needs to take the blame. That someone is the coach. Boudreau needs to go. After last year's playoffs and Varly's heroics, Varly should've been the #1 to atart the season, to let the guy mature into the playoffs. Alzner and Carlson should've been our top D line from day one of reg season to mature as well. Boudreau did none of the above. And GMGM??? C'mon guys/gals. The acquisition of Belanger (yeah brave for getting teeth smashed and getting root canal between periods), Walker, Jurcina (?!?!?!), were completely ineffective and didn't address any of our problems. Why not play Perreault and Acoin and Giroux more during reg season? They are as good and have more upside than Bellanger and Walker. Just my two cents.

Posted by: capsinsider | May 4, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Lyle we all hope you choke as well

Posted by: boomer44 | May 4, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

@capsinsider: i think that BB took the Caps as far as they could go last year---and there were factors working against the team that were beyond his control (e.g. injuries and horrible refereeing.) This year, the team took ITSELF as far as it was going to go. I have no way of knowing what BB or the other coaches were telling the players in the locker room and during practices. It could be that the coaches were doing/saying all the right things, and the Caps just didn't execute it well. I am one of those that think the Caps need a sports psychologist more than anything else. There is a huge mind/body connection and also a mindset/team connection. But, I'll be the first to admit I don't have the answers. My dad always said to beware of the man with all the answers. I will still be a fan come next season and will be interested to see what changes are made.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | May 4, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

For all his incredible physical talent - and make no mistake, he is a wondrous athlete - Mike Green seems to make questionable decisions when he's under pressure. This is not an indictment - I'm sure I would too, if I had NHL power forwards trying to decapitate me into the end boards. I like the guy, I'm not sure good decision-making is a fixable problem, in the end, for an offensive d-man who runs your PP.

And, ftr - I am now and have always been a huge fan of Sergei Gonchar, and was quite bummed when he left. Ditto Larry Murphy, and Calle Johannsson. But I don't think anyone ever questioned the decision-making of those three. Not anyone knowledgeable about hockey, anyway.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I'm still in denial phase...

Posted by: guer_j | May 4, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

@ Capsinsider -

Lets trade Green because he is not the top shut down guy you say we need? Why not just go out and get a #1 shut down guy and keep Green. He is the best offensive defenseman in the league for the last two years. I just dont understand how trading him helps the Caps.

Semin wont go in front of the net so we should trade him as well? Brilliant move - lets trade a guy with 40 goals because he doesnt play physical. We have two guys on the roster who go to the net - Knuble and Laich - should we trade the rest?

Can BB win for us? I still say yes he can. We just won more games than any other team in the NHL this season. The best Caps team in our history. We certainly underachieved in the playoffs and I'm still pissed, but I wouldnt change the system and fire BB. If it happens again next year - lets discuss again.

Alzner and Carlson should have been our top D pair all year? Come on - did you see Alzner play this year? He was lost on the ice half the time. Will he develop into a top defenseman? I think so and hope so, but he wasnt ready for it this year. Why do you think he didnt see the ice until game 7? Carlson was ready all year. I thought he should have been with us instead of Hershey full time.

Complaining about Belanger, Jurcina and Walker? I thought Belanger was a decent pick up, but what other centers were available at the deadline that we should have gotten? Didnt understand Jurcina since he was hurt, but I think he would have been ready for round 2. I still dont understand why Walker didnt play until game 7. He was the type of gritty tough player we needed who would have crashed the net as you hoped for. He also has way more playoff experience than any of the Hershey kids you mentioned.

Either way - dont blow it up just yet. Be patient and we'll see what happens next year. Pick up one top shut down D guy without trading Green - hopefully add a 2nd line center and I think we will be fine.

Posted by: capsfansince74 | May 4, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

For those that keep wanting Green to get traded please take a step back and look at what Chicago has done with their offensive-defenseman, Brian Campbell. He is not part of the shutdown tandem, that is the job of Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook. That gives Campbell more flexibility because he isn't facing the top offensive line of the opposing team.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Throwing an idea out:

Trade Semin - Try and pry Ryan Suter away from Nashville. That is a team that has D to spare with Sulzer coming up.

Posted by: underpants2 | May 4, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Grioux is 29, Aucoin is 31 and neither has made the NHL except for a few games here and there. They have no upside.

Posted by: sgm3 | May 4, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Ryan Suter had 0pts and was a (-1) in the playoffs. The grass is always greener on the other side, no pun intended.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

@underpants2

I'm open to trading Semin, but if the Caps can sign Volchenkov (at no player cost) then it may be worthwhile to see if the Caps could acquire a good 2nd line center to play with Semin throughout the season because the Caps would have acquired a top defenseman without giving up players.

Maybe using Flash and prospects or others as trade bait to acuire a 2nd line center.

I would be fine with retaining Belanger as a 3rd line center, but he should not be a 2nd line center.

In regards to Volchenkov, maybe the Caps should make a move to acquire his rights at the draft to give them a full week to sign him before other teams have the chance to neogitate. Maybe give a low draft pick as possible compensation. Just an idea.

Posted by: sgm3 | May 4, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Reading these comments, it is hard to tell who is a troll provoking an argument and who is a Caps fan. I am as disappointed as anyone about the way the season ended. There were a lot of missed opportunities and there is plenty of blame to share across the whole team. Worse than the hurt of the way the season ended is knowing that the discussion here will be reduced to taunts, ridiculous assertions and suggestions, and plain nonsense.

We'll see what transpires over the summer. In my opinion, the team needs some tweaks and they will look a little different when it hits the ice this fall. I look forward to another exciting season and a deeper run in the playoffs next year under Coach BB's direction.

Posted by: _Mark | May 4, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Just as I thought: we are the reincarnation of the 80's Oilers.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/05/ovechkins_caps_and_gretzkys_oi.html

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 4, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

sgm3,
Those look like reasonable and doable suggestions. I would like to see Semin with a more consistent center. Flash is one that I would consider still reasonable as trade bait. If Volchenkov becomes available, then we would be the better for it.

Hopefully we can unload Nylander in trade to someone that still sees value in him.

Posted by: _Mark | May 4, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock - fair point about Green, we shall see. But you need to watch Chicago a little more closely - Hjalmarrsson is part of the Hawks shutdown unit - he usually logs more minutes than any d-man except Keith [whom I believe is usually his even-strength partner].

I realize the pro-Canadien media types are loath to acknowledge that fact, but that kid is a terrific defensive d-man. And he's 23. And they got him in the 4th-round.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

@sgm - agreed about needing a legit #2 center. Semin would do damage if he consistently played with a true playmaking center.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Timbo: I do watch the Hawks, even during the season on Center Ice. Hjalmarrsson is not part of the shutdown pair, that is the job of Keith and Seabrook. Just so it's not your word against mine...

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-01-22/sports/1001210961_1_flames-jarome-iginla-pengrowth-saddledome-nhl

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

everyone needs to stop being shallow and complaining how we need to get rid of everybody. they lost, more importantly they know they screwed up this chance. no one is gonna be harder on these guys than themselves. but i mean to keep slammin them while their down, "oh we should trade him, yah he blows lets ditch him for a bag of pucks" c'mon really. i thought this city had more loyal fans than that. its not like they were the redskins last year. give these guys a break and a chance to right this wrong. Greeney and Semin especially, cuz the haters can like it or not, but they are not goin anywhere for a while so just stop being shallow and take this loss like adults. cuz with all this crap we keep throwing around about how our defense sucks and blah blah blah. we have a Norris finalists on our blue line. Double nickel won the plus minus trophy for the league this year. they had a great season and brought us back a few banners for next year on opening night. now we have won all other accolades so they just need the one. so lets stop giving the icebird fans up in Pitt fuel and ammo to shoot at us all offseason. we will be back stronger than ever next season. they lost just about every way possible in a game 7 now. in OT against Philly, blown-out by the nancy boys in Pitt, and a relatively close one against the Habs. and lets not forget, the Habs defense may be the best in the league hands down. yah the caps missed numerous chances but they took a lot away from us, so dont take that away from them. just stop being so shallow and show these guys we have their back through thick and thin. even if you dont personally like a player, so what he is still a member of this squad and should be treated with respect for everything they were able to bring back to us this year. All Hail Ted, Bruce, Dean, Bob, Smitty and all of our boys. Cant forget Joe B and Locker also, cant wait for next year

Posted by: CapsBoy52 | May 4, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Ryan Suter had 0pts and was a (-1) in the playoffs. The grass is always greener on the other side, no pun intended.

Posted by: fanohock1


He was money in the olympics though.

The problem with Volchenkov is that there will be a bidding war for him. Keeping Semin, and signing Backstrom, no way you can add him and a decent 2nd line center. Plus, if Semin is going to UFA, you may as well get something for him.

Posted by: underpants2 | May 4, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Caps have tons of Offense without Green with that being said...who cares if he stays or goes..if he stays there must be someone to play with him SCHULTZ IS NOT! the guy...

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

@CapsBoy52....you're right it's been three years of lack luster playoff performances...lets wait a fourth and see what happens...dumb

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

everyone needs to stop being shallow and complaining how we need to get rid of everybody. they lost, more importantly they know they screwed up this chance. no one is gonna be harder on these guys than themselves. but i mean to keep slammin them while their down, "oh we should trade him, yah he blows lets ditch him for a bag of pucks" c'mon really. i thought this city had more loyal fans than that. its not like they were the redskins last year. give these guys a break and a chance to right this wrong. Greeney and Semin especially, cuz the haters can like it or not, but they are not goin anywhere for a while so just stop being shallow and take this loss like adults. cuz with all this crap we keep throwing around about how our defense sucks and blah blah blah. we have a Norris finalists on our blue line. Double nickel won the plus minus trophy for the league this year. they had a great season and brought us back a few banners for next year on opening night. now we have won all other accolades so they just need the one. so lets stop giving the icebird fans up in Pitt fuel and ammo to shoot at us all offseason. we will be back stronger than ever next season. they lost just about every way possible in a game 7 now. in OT against Philly, blown-out by the nancy boys in Pitt, and a relatively close one against the Habs. and lets not forget, the Habs defense may be the best in the league hands down. yah the caps missed numerous chances but they took a lot away from us, so dont take that away from them. just stop being so shallow and show these guys we have their back through thick and thin. even if you dont personally like a player, so what he is still a member of this squad and should be treated with respect for everything they were able to bring back to us this year. All Hail Ted, Bruce, Dean, Bob, Smitty and all of our boys. Cant forget Joe B and Locker also, cant wait for next year

Posted by: CapsBoy52


This is nonsense. They lost all those games at home, which is shameful. Montreal is not even close to the best defense in the league. They blew a 3 to 1 lead to a far inferior team. They went 1 and 3 at home. One thing this team does not need right now is to be coddled. And if this is to be a learning experience, it needs to be as painful a one as possible.

Posted by: underpants2 | May 4, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

DEFENSE IS NOT WHAT LOST THE SERIES!!!!!!! We gave up 2-3(non-empty net) goals per game the entire series.... the problem was the PP

Posted by: allCAPS | May 4, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

We should see if Boston would trade Milan Lucic and Adam McQuaid straight-up for Green and Semin.....

Posted by: vermontcaps | May 4, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

@vermontcaps

you serious?

Posted by: _stevo | May 4, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

You are in rare form tonight richmondphil, are you gonna demand we meet in person tough guy? I wive in apawrtment fawr g wichmond. You started with the insults.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 3, 2010 9:15 PM

Are you serious? You are the one who started the the insults. You are the one trying to make frequent references to "Richmond", even though I laid no personal attacks towards you. You were the one adopting the "pompous" attitude first, trying to "inform" me that NHL players have professional trainers.

You really are delusional or you can't read. It's truly funny right now..you personally attack me because I said your argument was goofy, and I was the one who threw the first insult? Really?

You're like a child fanohock1, everytime someone gets into a tuft with you it has to turn into some big thing.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

In fact..I just read the abortion of a conversation thoroughly...can you even find one quote of me insulting you?

I certainly insulted joek443, but everyone on this board does and he insulted me first.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Really richmondphil? You have been better of late, well, until you tried to get somebody to meet you in Richmond at three o'clock high, but you used to regularly get into 1 on 1 battles on here to the point people were telling you and your opponent to give it up. Besides you and cstanton1 (we've had ongoing disputes) I really don't argue with anyone else on here.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Both of the last two sequences were lack of hustle. Thus interview was soft on Green. I'd like to ask him if he ever watches how casual or how little intensity his game displays. If he cares, his style doesn't echo it. Ever since Boudreau took over and Green found his comfort zone with this coach, his game has relaxed almost to the point of being too casually played. That has nothing to do with being more defensively minded. Use your speed and skills to be defensive, but use them. Don't loaf or go 50% when you have to eat a guy to the puck!


_________________________


Maybe Green needs to work on his skating? Hmmm.....

But that's just my redneck Wichmond 'pinion.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Yawn.

Posted by: Fro_ | May 4, 2010 8:38 AM

You can be traded too

Posted by: velo_matt | May 4, 2010 9:32 AM

This seriously just made me lol.

Posted by: Fro_ | May 4, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

fanohock1, are you going to ignore the fact that I never insulted you, yet you somehow felt I did, and then you yourself insulted me?

And you get into fights with anyone here who critiques a player, and you disagree with it. How many times do you tell people to not be fans? How many times do you tell people to go find a new team?

Get off your high-horse, your opinion isn't the only one that matters. (Sound familiar? It's what you tell people about their opinions...)

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"Dude, he led the NHL in goals. You're not allowed to critique his shot, because obviously scoring the most goals means he has no problems with his shot. duh." You sent that to Joek. Yeah, I see the indirect poke in the eye.

"That statement, nevermind the empirical fact if Green is in fact a world-class skater or not, is just goofy. Illogical."

I offered video proof of his skating ability and you choose to continue to critique his skating ability. So, no matter is said or shown, your mind is made up. I'm not getting into it with you anymore phil from richmond. I am going to call a truce.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

richmondphil: I never claimed Green doesn't make mistakes, as a matter of fact I said his decision making is an issue. You asked for proof of his skating ability. All you have to do is watch the videos and you can see his superior skating ability. There are examples of his transitioning from skating backwards to forward while blowing past a forechecker, blowing past defensemen lazily chasing the puck into their zone, stickhandling through defensemen, winning battles on the boards, throwing crushing checks, burying unbelievable one-timers. I offered video proof of his skating skills yet you still want to use your opinion as your proof.

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I'm going to break down this last one, even after I tried to end the conversation by stating "agree to disagree." (Yet I'm the one who drags on conversations...hmmmm)

You obviously missed my point about posting youtube videos which favor your opinion. If I really wanted to, I could go pull up 3 videos of Green of when his skating failed him. If you really think a sample of 3 videos, which all show him making good plays, is "evidence" for your "opinion" and evidence against my own opinion...well....

Matt Bradley isn't a very good puck handler and has cement hands, by own your admission, but if I found 3 videos of him scoring awesome goals, would that change your opinion of Bradley? No, it shouldn't.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I was screaming at Green during game 7, and at Bruce for playing him. Not only did I want to throw him under the bus, I wanted to drive the bus. I hope his sentiments are sincere, and there truly is learning and growth that was gained.
I am cheered by comparisons with the Oilers- maybe OUR expectations out-paced the team's growth and maturation.

Posted by: bluejeener1 | May 4, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Whoa..you really think those two sentences warranted you to come at me with some clever, stereotype garbage of how rednecks live in Richmond? Your a child.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

RichBoth of the last two sequences were lack of hustle. Thus interview was soft on Green. I'd like to ask him if he ever watches how casual or how little intensity his game displays. If he cares, his style doesn't echo it. Ever since Boudreau took over and Green found his comfort zone with this coach, his game has relaxed almost to the point of being too casually played. That has nothing to do with being more defensively minded. Use your speed and skills to be defensive, but use them. Don't loaf or go 50% when you have to eat a guy to the puck!


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Maybe Green needs to work on his skating? Hmmm.....

But that's just my redneck Wichmond 'pinion.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Really, you are going to use another Green haters comments as proof you are right about his skating ability. Even that dude didn't say his skating was an issue, he pointed to his level of effort and skating at 50%. If he can score at the rate he does skating at 50% just imagine what he can do if he skates at 100% all the time. BTW defensemen always gauge their speed when retrieving pucks in their zone because they are looking over their shoulder to their options prior to retrieving the puck. Anyhow, I am done with this topic.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I didn't refer to people from Richmond as rednecks. "I wive in apawrtment fawr g wichmond." That sentence was me mocking your providing your address in a child's manner. Don't try to get all the folks from Virginia on me because you're ticked off.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Whoa...did you really just pidgeon-hole cwiseman's post, which was very non-biased and laid out in a quite elongated post, as a "Green hater"? Way to prove my point.

Anyone who critiques the Caps in a way you don't agree with is a hater, troll, not a fan, bandwagon'r, etc, etc, etc...

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

No one is ticked off. It's the internet man. I just find your sheer hypocrisy funny.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

That sentence was me mocking your providing your address in a child's manner.

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I'm not an intimidating man by any means, minus the sleeves, but only prejudice people would be intimated by tattoos.

When I say I want to meet you in person and discuss hockey over a beer, I really mean it. I have no intentions of fighting people, I just like to offer the chance to insult me in person or just act like normal, real life adults, and discuss our favorite hockey team in person.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Not a problem richmondphil, I am at Verizon Center over 30 times a season. Why not meet at a Caps game? You can wear your Mike Green jersey.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so now you are insinuating that I'm a Green basher too?

Are you going to address my reply to you about you posting those videos and Matt Bradley? It shows how ridiculous it is to try to correlate your opinion to a sample of 3 videos. They weren't even random videos, it was 3 videos selected by the guy who shares a certain opinion.

If you want to meet at VC one game next year, awesome. I might take a job at Belvoir, so I'll be closer to all you "real Caps fans."

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

@fanohock - that article was from January. Hjalmarrsson is a much better defender than Seabrook, which the Hawks coaching staff has woken up to. But you didn't even list him in the Hawks top 4 d-men.

Link to TOI from last night's game:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009030242

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

So, no matter is said or shown, your mind is made up. I'm not getting into it with you anymore phil from richmond. I am going to call a truce.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 4, 2010 2:01 PM |

I refuted the point production argument successfully, and I refuted the video examples successfully.

Although I am fairly certain that I am right and Green could use some more work on his skating, I am not committed to the opinion. You have just not offered me any sort of argument in which would be strong enough for me to change my opinion.

If you truly feel that Green is one of the best skaters alive on the planet right now, that's your call. But lets not pretend the evidence you have offered is sufficient.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

And I know I haven't offered any evidence for my claim that "Green needs to work on his skating."
However, we aren't discussing that claim, we are discussing the claim that "Green needs to not work on his skating."

Neither of us are doing a very good job pointing to a good argument for our claims. I point to my eyeballs, you point to 3 hand-selected videos. Both are bad arguments.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Link to TOI from last night's game:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2009030242

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 2:39 PM |

Well, with all this talk about Campbell, Seabrook, Keith, and Hjalmarson, everyone is seemingly overlooking the guy who logged the most SH icetime.. Brett Sopel. :)

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Ive seen some MMG bashing before, but this is the first time I,ve seen anyone saying he doesnt skate very well. I dont believe skating is an issue with hime at all.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | May 4, 2010 9:24 AM |

I've been saying it all season though. It's not until the end of season when my comment gets misconstrued as just bashing Green.

Some people even agreed with me during the regular season, but no one ever tried to argue withe me about it.

Green is a fast skater, and he knows how to rush from zone to zone, but he skates slow backwards and he has problems transitioning from boards to open ice, etc. Skating and puck possession go hand in hand, ask Crosby.

I mean really guys, how many times have we've seen Green get burned while he was skating backwards? He has to turn around and start to skate forward.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah but still a full 5 min less in both total TOI and EV TOI than either Keith or Hjalmarrsson.

Quenneville played a lot short-handed back in his day; I'm sure he appreciates what Sopel brings to the table but he ain't a top-4. -

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Personally I think Green does need to improve some areas of his skating.

When Green gets going he is one of the best, if not the best, skating defensemen in the NHL. He is outstanding at shifting directions while moving forward and gliding by people.

However, Green is average at best skating backwards and is also average at pivoting. He also seems to struggle on his changes from backwarding skating to normal skating when he turns around.

In addition, Green does not seem to have a great first step. Once he gets going he is fast but his acceleration seems to be a little slow.

Again, I think Green is average in these areas, not bad (Erskine). But if he wants to be a top defenseman in the NHL and improve his defensive play then I also believe he needs to improve these specific areas of his skating.

Posted by: sgm3 | May 4, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I think you guys aren't thinking about how important skating is, and how many different things it encompasses. He's fast, he has great short-burst speed. But that is about where I draw the line on his skating.

When you read "skating", you probably automatically assume I just mean skating..in open ice, with or without the puck. Really though, skating affects so many things, offensively and defensively.

What would help his positioning and ability to close space on the rush? Better skating, or at the least, more confidence in his skating.

What would help him not lose the puck after trying to enter the zone on the rush? Better skating, or at least, more confidence in his skating.

What would help him not lose puck battles at the boards as much? Better skating, or at least, more strength on his skates.

His decision-making is a problem, I admitted that a lot, and would help other aspects of his game, such as the decision to pinch, no-look passes, etc, etc but his skating has room for improvement.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Quenneville played a lot short-handed back in his day; I'm sure he appreciates what Sopel brings to the table but he ain't a top-4. -

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 3:02 PM |

Haha, yeah I agree with you, I just found the fact that Brett Sopel logging the most SH ice time funny.


@sgm

Thanks for backing me up, and I think your first paragraph hit a main point; We want Green to work on his skating for his defensive coverage, not his ability to come up ice on the rush, or carry the puck through the zone. These things, he does very well.

"His defensive game would do wonders if he worked on his skating ability."

This was actually one of the first sentences I posted in this thread about this. I think people, when they read that we want Green to work on his skating, interpret it as offense only. Really, all the aspects of Green's skating I want him to work on will affect his defensive play more, though obviously it will help both areas of his game.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Also, "pivoting" is a much better word than "transitioning."

I used the word transitioning in the sense that you used pivoting, but that was poor word choice. Transitioning sort of implies his ability to come back to his position after pinching in, which is how fanohock1 read it I think.
Green's actually fairly decent at getting back to his position after pinching. He gets caught up sometimes, but he pinches a lot.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Green did get in much better physical shape after last year so hopefully he will continue to improve himself and work on these areas of his game in the offseason.

Ideally it will be a combination of becoming a better skater and also developing more strength to become more physical so he can better absorb being checked along the boards.

Posted by: sgm3 | May 4, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Ideally it will be a combination of becoming a better skater and also developing more strength to become more physical so he can better absorb being checked along the boards.

Posted by: sgm3 | May 4, 2010 3:23 PM |

I agree, but this is Corvo's territory now, haha. Corvo does whatever is humanly possible to avoid being checked. Even if it means making a bad play or turning the puck over.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Bradley = more heart in his pinkey than 10 Semin's

this team has too much "talent"

Posted by: doughless | May 4, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

also, Boudreau is a chump

Posted by: doughless | May 4, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Bradley's definitely got heart, he just has no hands. He is the epitome of a 4th-liner.

Too much talent? Really? Wow - we've had a lot of very high draft picks, but with a few obvious exceptions, their selection does not appear to have been based on talent [ie., Schultz in 1st-rd, Alzner #5 overall, Gordon in 1st-rd., Steckel in 1st-rd., etc.] MTL had more overall team speed than we did, at critical positions.

And BB's definitely not a chump, the Verizon Center was a morgue before he got here, and the team was awful. He breathed new life into the franchise - just look at GM's record with and without BB at the helm. It is jaw-dropping.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Also, if you look at the teams still playing (Wings, Hawks, etc), they have guys they drafted and developed - and from later rounds - who all fill impact positions [Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, Filppula, Hjalmarsson] - hell, even the Bruins got Krecji in the 2nd round. We just have too many overrated Canadians being drafted way too high, and consequently plugged into spots they're simply not cut out for. Zetterberg was picked in like the 6th-round, for crying out loud. Even Lidstrom went in like the 3rd, IIRC.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Zetterberg is awesome. My fav non-cap. That guy is the definition of a hockey player.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 4, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

We were out of the playoffs 3 years ago.
If BB is a chump, that nitiwit above is CHUMPANZEES by any success quotient.

Posted by: Rocc00 | May 4, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Have you seen Kukla's Corner video of Crosby cross-checking the crap out of the back of Zetterberg because he's so frustrated - then Howard jumps in and pops Crosby? It's pretty funny - Zetterberg plays so hard but clean, which apparently frustrates one Mr. Crosby to no end.

And btw I was mistaken - Zetterberg didn't go in the 6th-round - it was the 7th.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Pavel Datsyuk was picked in the 6th-round. Unreal.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Instead of focusing on Crosby's miserable performance as team captain in game two (one shot on goal and a minus-2 rating), this writer prefers to drool over his so-called leadership.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AqUmh_t6DTNB6cO4WJaBaso5nYcB?slug=ea-maturecrosby0504

Posted by: Cerealman | May 4, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

it's not just writers drooling over Crosby, our own Alan May did that last week on CSN after the Caps got eliminated.

he said, "nobody knows what kinda car Crosby drives or what parties he goes to, all he does is thinks about hockey 24/7..."

Posted by: joek443 | May 4, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Pittsburgh is looking pretty frustrated already.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 4, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Pittsburgh is looking pretty frustrated already.

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 4, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

That's some chess match they're playing in Montreal!

Once again, the Canadiens are dictating the style of this game. The score is 0-0 and the shots are 7-3, in favor of the home team.

Here are some interesting figures: 1. The away team is winning 65% of its face-offs; and, 2. The Pens are also blocking more shots, 11-3.

It appears the Pens are going to have to beat Montreal at its own game to win tonight's game and, perhaps, the rest of this series.


Posted by: Terptwin | May 4, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I like Zetterberg too.

Crosby pulled a baby move already in the first period tonight---hit someone way after the play was over. He is such a child. Yes, his focus is on hockey, and that's admirable. But he threw his stick at the goal two days ago (I think he broke it by doing that) in frustration, and he acts like a Mite out there on the ice (with apologies to all the Mites who are much more mature than Cindy.) How he is a "leader" is waaay beyond my understanding.

Posted by: dccitizen1 | May 4, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Alan May is now blacklisted in my book. I can't believe he said that.

Nothing would make me happier at this point than the Pens losing the series to the Habs.

Posted by: caraveli | May 4, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Pavel Datsyuk was picked in the 6th-round. Unreal.

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 4, 2010 5:20 PM |

Didn't Z-berg go later?

Douglas Murray was drafted way late as well.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see this?

http://tinyurl.com/2745kdd

Posted by: LloydChristmas | May 4, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

yawn...the team I happen to root for went further then the team you happen to root for!
burn, it hurts so much. An event in which I have no control over happened in a way I didn't want. Oh man.

Posted by: richmondphil | May 4, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

What's the story with the Pens/Habs game? Isn't anyone scoring. Please make it that it's the Habs who score.

Posted by: caraveli | May 4, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I'd like you to name one defender who was available at the deadline without an expiring contract.

Posted by: richmondphil

Sheldon Souray. Thankfully the Caps didn't trade for him.

Posted by: alanb1 | May 4, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Malkin just scored...on the Power Play.

Posted by: Terptwin | May 4, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

My bad. That goal was scored at even strength. At any rate, Pens 1 - Habs 0 with 17 and change to go.

Posted by: Terptwin | May 4, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Eventually MTL will go down with so few shots. They are not that talented and their lock down defensive strategy will be penetrated and exploited.;

Posted by: evtoi | May 4, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

One more goal would sew this game up for Pittsburgh.

Posted by: Terptwin | May 4, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's see if Montreal can rally from this huge 1 goal deficit. Their juggernaut has mustered 14 shots so far on home ice.

Posted by: Terptwin | May 4, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

wow. a penalty on the pens. I didn't know they comitted penalties.

Posted by: zyvo23 | May 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Uh oh. Leopold was just called for Tripping (with 5:31 remaining). Here we go...

Posted by: Terptwin | May 4, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Pain MAAAty. Pain.

Posted by: Terptwin | May 4, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

@Terptwin: You stated, "It appears the Pens are going to have to beat Montreal at its own game to win tonight's game and, perhaps, the rest of this series."
That is what most of us on here have been arguing about. That is playoff hockey. The ability to win a 2-1 game or a 5-4 game. A team needs to be able to adapt. Our team is not capable of that with this group of guys. They are excellent in "their" style, but come against a system to counteract that style and we are done. If nothing else the pens can adapt.

And don't get me started on Hank Zetterberg. Is he good? Yes. Is he dominant? Some times. But look at the talent and the experience he plays with. Put Ovi or Crosby on that team and dominance would need to be rewritten.

Posted by: stop_it | May 5, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

stop_it: The difference in yesterday's game was Fleury. He made some spectacular saves. There were defensive breakdowns by the Pens and he came up big. Unfortunately Varly didn't "steal" one for us. He has a couple great periods of hockey like the 1st and 2nd periods of game 3. He earned two shutouts against the Rangers last year, too bad he couldn't snag just one in the last three this year. Not pinning the playoff exit on him though. There were many players that could have done something a little differently for this to be a better outcome. Halak played great last night again too.

Posted by: fanohock1 | May 5, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

@stop-it: The point wasn't that Zetterberg is better than Ovi, Malkin or Crosby [although he certainly outplayed Crosby in last year's finals, no question] - those guys were all #1 overall draft picks [ok, Malkin went #2 overall IIRC] - Zetterberg didn't go until the 7th-round. That was the point - every single team in the league passed on the guy, at least 6 times!!

And while we're at it, Datsuk went in the 6th, Lidstrom in the 3rd, etc. How come successful franchises uncover these hidden gems from Europe or Russia in the later rounds, and we never seem to?

Posted by: Timbo_1 | May 5, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Ha, this is like interviewing Oswald and asking him about how he feels about the "tragic" assassination of the President.

Green is in fact, useless on D, at least in the playoffs the only place it really counts. He has shown that he is a huge liability on the blue line, can't score much or assist on the PP much in the playoffs, and takes incredibly stupid penalties that cost games and series. Oh and he is usually on the ice when the other team scores. Get rid of the bum and get someone back there who can play D in the playoffs and help this team move deep into the playoffs for once.

Posted by: EricinMD | May 5, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Green is ranked fairly high by NHL Central Scouting (who do this sort of thing for a living). Their exact rankings for current players aren't out yet (they should be once the playoffs end; barring a miracle Crosby will be ranked 1st overall for the third straight year). Is he the best skating defenceman in the league? No, but he's certainly in the top half (overall, since the evaluation of skating for defencemen include the following criteria: Acceleration, Speed, Balance, Mobility, and Backward Skating). Using this checklist, he'd rank between good and very good on almost every category.

The knock on Green by scouts is that he jumps up and pinches too much which was a big reason why Yzerman didn't pick him for Team Canada. But what do they know; oh wait- they do this sort of thing for a living.

Available defencemen- Kaberle was nearly moved to Washington at the deadline but McPhee didn't want to give up prospects. Patrick Sharp could have been had out of Chicago for the right price (he will likely get moved over the summer as the Hawks are up against the cap).

Washington's biggest challenge will be signing Backstrom. Wait until July 1st and Boston (who have the picks since they have the #2 overall pick from Toronto in the Kessel trade) could come in with an offer than would force McPhee's hand as to terms/dollars.

Posted by: jcurrin | May 5, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Either way, it's nice to see that so many are still Caps fans and not band wagon jump-offs. If this team was older I would worry, but these are mostly kids. Very talented kids. We have a lot to look forward to, so don't be so damn greedy. I love this team. Their character is awesome. Just need a little tweak. A Pronger type, and a better second line center. Go with the kids in goal next year.

Posted by: coastallp74 | May 5, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

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