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Green on injury: 'It's not serious'

Mike Green suffered a "charley horse" when he was hit in the second period by Florida's Dmitry Kulikov, but the Capitals' high scoring defenseman said after the game that he does not believe the injury is serious.

"We'll see," Green said about playing Sunday afternoon against Tampa Bay. "I can't really tell right now. It's not serious, but we'll see."

Green, who was walking with a bit of a limp, attempted to come back in the third period when he came out onto the ice during a television timeout and took a few twirls. The team decided against it.

"I assume he'll be playing Sunday," Coach Bruce Boudreau said. "He came out there, as you saw, and he felt fine. But we didn't want to take any chances. It was more of a charley horse than anything else."

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  January 29, 2010; 10:06 PM ET
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thank goodness!

Posted by: CAP-lanta | January 29, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

The "TSN Panel" described the hit exactly the same way that the Ovechkin suspension hit occurred. Ladies and gentlemen, this is not paranoia. The Canadian hockey establishment is prejudiced against the Caps, Green and Ovechkin in particular. It's going to be a bumpy ride in the playoffs.

Posted by: zmega | January 29, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

he shouldn't come back till he's 100 percent healthy... don't need any lingering injury and the repeat of his playoff performance last year

Posted by: joek443 | January 29, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

He might as well wait to find out if he gets a suspension handed down for his elbow to the head of Frolik before he tells us how severe the injury is. TSN sure thinks he will get one.

Posted by: washcaps | January 29, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

What does the Canadian hockey establishment have to do with the NHL playoffs?

There is no conspiracy against the Capitals. People need to get that nonsense out of their heads.

Sure, there are some off-ice Canadian figures that don't like some things about Ovechkin but that doesn't impact the results of games. The refs are just trying to do their jobs.

As far as Bettman, if anything, I bet he's secretly hoping the Caps win the cup so this conspiracy nonsense he hears about from whiny Caps fans goes away.

The Penguins beat us fair and square. They outworked us and earned the penalty calls. The refs didn't care who won and they won't care this postseason, either. Stop having a defeatist attitude and reaching for excuses.

Posted by: tmac2yao | January 29, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

He might as well wait to find out if he gets a suspension handed down for his elbow to the head of Frolik before he tells us how severe the injury is. TSN sure thinks he will get one.

Posted by: washcaps | January 29, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse


Wow. Just wow. The elbow to the head was clearly not intentional, just a clean check gone bad. I don't think the hit on Green was _intentionally_ knee-to-knee either. I was stunned that Florida somehow went to the power play afterward though!

Get well soon Greenie!

Posted by: butcherbaker | January 29, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

As far as Green, that would be the second really close call for one of our key players.

Both his knee and Ovechkin's got bent awkwardly in their knee-on-knee collisions.

I'm still amazed that Ovechkin didn't have a more serious injury. I'm equally amazed that he reportedly never got an MRI, which seems to me is usually standard procedure in professional sports for any injuries to the knee area, even when it's not believed to be a serious injury. I still wonder if there is any damage that will show up at a later time or after another hit to that area.

I have the same long-term concerns for Green even if he does walk away with nothing too serious in the short-term. His knee definitely got bent forcefully in an awkward angle. You always worry about ligament damage in those situations.

Posted by: tmac2yao | January 29, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

@butcherbaker: Mo went after the guy who hurt Green and put a headlock on him. It was a pretty weak form of roughing, but I guess it could be called.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | January 29, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I think you don't see as many ligament injuries in hockey as other sports (i.e football, basketball) because the players are focused more on total conditioning (e.g. skating) than on lifting weights. They're building the complete framework rather than just the muscles, so you end up with a strong flexible whole rather than a stiff, bulked-up muscle with relatively weaker ligaments which are then vulnerable to tears.

Posted by: butcherbaker | January 29, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse


Whether it was intentional or not, Green's elbow came out and appeared to make contact with the Panther player's head.

Even it was unintentional, he used bad technique. I imagine players are responsible for their elbows much like they're responsible for their sticks.

I'm not sure it will be deemed suspension-worthy but I wouldn't be shocked if that is the case. The fact that the player wasn't injured and the fact that Green doesn't have a history of elbowing penalties (at least nothing that I recall) makes me think he'll get off with a warning and possibly a small fine.

Posted by: tmac2yao | January 29, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Tmac, are you an orthopedic surgeon as well as an expert on the inner workings of the NHL?

Posted by: zmega | January 29, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse


Interesting thoughts about the conditioning.

I would think it's also partly due to the fact that they are on ice skates and there is more give than with cleats on turf.

I understand that a skate can get caught in the ice but it has to be at a pretty off angle. In most cases a straight knee-on-knee will pick the skate up right off the ice, so there is more give.

I imagine your conditioning theory is partially true but I believe there is more to it.

Posted by: tmac2yao | January 29, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from the VZ Center. Knuble was jobbed: I love Backie but Knuble should have been the number 1 star tonight. Also, I'm starting to think Neuvirth could be the guy to win us the Cup this year. He is not as athletic as Varly, but he handles the puck much better, controls rebounds better and is just incredibly sound fundamentally. Plus, he won the Calder Cup last year.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | January 29, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I have to admit that I was dissapointed in Green's elbow hit. It wasn't terribly evil, but I thought it was a bit dirty. But more importantly, I am glad he seems ok!!! I was on the verge of tears for a few minutes there!!!

Posted by: capscoach | January 29, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

No, I just know that fans often use conspiracy theories as excuses when their team doesn't have success. There is no conspiracy against the Caps by Bettman or the referees or any other party. Some Canadian folks don't like Ovechkin. I accept that but that is all.

I've also watched enough sports to see how ligament damage occurs and how organizations treat any and all knee-related injuries. Whether it's the NBA, NFL or MLB, they almost always get an MRI done since that is the only conclusive way to rule out ligament damage. They have the resources to do it and players are their most important assets so they have no reason to do otherwise. I do think it's possible that Lindsay just wasn't provided with information about Ovechkin getting an MRI done. I suppose that would be almost expected given their non-disclosure tendencies.

Posted by: tmac2yao | January 29, 2010 10:55 PM | Report abuse


What is your source for the Caps not doing an MRI on Ovie? Should we expect the Caps to clear all their medical and training issues with you for dissemination to the world?

Posted by: fromthebeginning | January 29, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to think Neuvirth could be the guy to win us the Cup this year. He is not as athletic as Varly, but he handles the puck much better, controls rebounds better and is just incredibly sound fundamentally. Plus, he won the Calder Cup last year.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | January 29, 2010 10:54 PM

I haven't been overly impressed with his puck-handling or rebound control. I do like his glove hand and his quickness. He also seems highly determined and capable of showing great focus.

It's too early to tell with him and Varlamov for that matter. A lot of people are annointing Varlamov but the guy hasn't even played half a season worth of NHL games. Look at what happened to Steve Mason this season.

I think it'll be another couple of years before we really know what we have in Varlamov and Neuvirth, assuming they are both here that long.

Posted by: tmac2yao | January 29, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse


I agree with you entirely. Sometimes this forum is laughable at times with what people write. The Canadian media praises the Caps to a ridiculous amount (I am Canadian so I see them daily) and this conspiracy thing that people are talking about is absurd.

The hit on Green wasn't as bad as people are making it out to be. He carelessly drifts into the middle, and BB points that out in his post game chat. Kulikov has missed time with an injured knee, he wasn't leading with his knee, and the hit was more unlucky than anything else. Unfortunately Green got hurt, but it's not suspension worthy.

Regardless, nice win for the Caps. 9 in a row is amazing.

Posted by: Aldred15 | January 29, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I wish Yao would go back to China and TMac would get his lazy eye fixed and that the two of them would stop trolling.

Posted by: DisgustedinArlington | January 29, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Nine in a row and counting....a flat start but a dominating finish. At times tonight it felt as if this team was just gliding.

Great netminding by Neuvy tonight to thwart the early chances and get the help of a post here and there :)

Mike Green - thank goodness it doesn't appear to be a serious injury. Take notes for anyone who was hating on Ovie. He went to hit both Gonchar and the d-man from Carolina like that and even Florida's color announcer said if he doesn't try to get out of the way and absorb that hit - it wouldn't have looked as bad. The SAME damn thing that happened when Ovie laid out both of those guys. However, Green's shot to Frolik's head - dumb. You get even by hitting clean. That was a braincramp on his part.

A good job to seize the moment in the third period.

Kudos to the steady Jeff Schultz. I dogged him last year but he's changed his attitude and approach to the game and has been solid. Welcome to the scoresheet 55.

Florida tried once to end the Caps streak. They'll get a second chance on Sunday when the Lightning come zipping into town.

It's been a two point night.


Posted by: Jonathan6 | January 29, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

"I haven't been overly impressed with his puck-handling or rebound control."

I don't know what games you are watching. He had a bad game in Florida, but his puck handling has been getting consistently better. He isn't Marty Brodeur yet at this stage in his career, but he's probably about as effective now with the puck as Theo. Plus, McPhee has already described him as playing like he has velcro on his body with respect to his rebound control.

Posted by: ccCapsfan | January 29, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Conspiracy? ROFLMAO. The Caps are the most exciting the in the NHL as shown by the amount of pucks going into the net and have the most exciting player in the NHL. Check. They have no goons which makes Bettman very happy. Double Check.

As far as the morons saying Green should be suspended why would they even care? It not like the caps will miss the playoffs if he misses a couple games. The reason they hate Green, Ovechkin etc is simple. They are jealous/envious. We all know if they played for a Canadian team they would be called hockey Gods.

Just sit back and enjoy the fun ride to the first of many Stanley Cups.

Posted by: rockbroker | January 29, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse

You're assertion that there is no conspiracy is no less an opinion than other folks' assertion that there is. Regardless of how much you state it as fact, it's still just your opinion.

I'm not saying there is, or is not, a conspiracy against the Caps within the NHL and it's officials. I would however say that I'm much more inclined to believe that there is a league mandated preference when concerning Crosby and his Pens. Gotta give Canada's "next one" a leg up any way one can, eh?

I do know this: The Pens routinely get more powerplays than their opponents, and to say they are just cleaner than most teams is to be in complete denial.

I just wish I had a buck for every uncalled infraction against the Pens. Orpik alone would put my kids (if I had any) through college.

In any case, 9 in a row... GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: Hordedog | January 29, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who believes there is a conspiracy against any team or a preference toward any team or player needs to get a life. I have never heard such nonsense. The Caps are one of the most exciting teams in hockey. Enjoy it people, don't spoil a great win with crap.

Posted by: bigschu8 | January 29, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

fans can believe what they wanna believe but I sure hope that no player, coach or front office people associated with the Caps believe in any conspiracy NONSENSE...

this isn't WWE, if the NHL were to "favor" any team, it would be LA, NY or Chicago... NOT Pittsburgh

Posted by: joek443 | January 29, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Going off the topic of hockey, but not Washington D.C., does anyone know what they're doing with the Chipotles at Gallery Place? I was hoping to grab a quick bite after the game only to find out it was closed. Are they just closed for renovations?

I assume they got their chipotle burrito giveaway from the one in Arlington.

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | January 29, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Right, and there were no "Jordan rules" in the NBA. Professional sports leagues always operate with the utmost in integrity.

Posted by: zmega | January 29, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Maybe there's not a conspiracy against the Caps but I did wonder about some of the calls in today's game.

I was surprised that Florida ended up with a power play when Green went down. I expected to see coincidental minors at least.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | January 30, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

if there really is a league wide consipiracy in the NBA or the NHL, they must do a splendid job putting a lid on leaks to the media... these people should be in politics

Posted by: joek443 | January 30, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Schultz's goal was a weird goal. It isn't every day that a defensive defenseman gets a goal, with assists from forwards who are normally scoring forwards (Semin and Flash).

Well, it's the day of the Wolf Moon and weird things are known to happen.

Posted by: CapsFan75 | January 30, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

I hear that Hershey won a very high scoring affair.

It wasn't one of Holtby's better days in goal. He had his worst games of the year as follows.

1) Preseason rookie scrimmage against the Flyers where our young rookies lost to their slightly older rookies.

2) After doing very well in Hershey for his first call up, he was sent down to South Carolina and had a bad game in his first game at SC.

3) Tonight's game. (But Holtby picked up two minor penalties when defending his crease. Gee whiz! Shades of Olie Kolzig.)

Posted by: CapsFan75 | January 30, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

a chipotle note.

The gallery place Chipotle shared space with a McDs right? And Chipotle recently disengaged with McDs, they bought out McDs investment in Chipotle...

... so maybe this has something to do with it? When was the last time you saw a Chipotle get renovated? They are all brand new.

Posted by: gconrads | January 30, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

If Greenie has superhuman flexibility, that would make my day, but I don't know looked gross. I hope it's not serious. It looks serious as hell...I'm not buying the charlie horse looked like his knee got hyperextened so bad, it looked like an immediate ACL.

Posted by: hatchlaw | January 30, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

@ gcongrads. Yes this is the one at Verizon Center at gallery place. I was at the game against the Leafs two weeks ago and it was there. Last night, it was gone. I guess you're right. But still very strange, considering it was probably Gallery Places best restaurant in business when it comes to grabbing food on the go next to McDonalds.

Posted by: hockeynightincanada | January 30, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

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