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Injury Update

I'm glad I put a question mark at the end of the headline on my last post. As it turns out, the Caps' injury situation may not be any better after all.

Coach Bruce Boudreau said Mike Green will not play tomorrow in Minnesota, though he continues to improve. Green told me he's shooting for Friday or Saturday. Alexander Semin is "doubtful" according to Boudreau, while Segei Fedorov also is not likely to face the Wild.

The other guys who came off early -- Boyd Gordon, Chris Clark and Brooks Laich -- all received treatment on various nagging injuries. They are expected to play tomorrow, however.

That's it for now. I've got a plane to catch.

By Tarik El-Bashir  |  November 23, 2008; 2:22 PM ET
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Tarik: Minnesota is a little cold this time of year, so dress appropriately.

Posted by: Section117 | November 23, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

This sucks...

Posted by: NB19 | November 23, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

This will certainly test the Capitals resiliency. Hopefully the rest of the team steps up...

Posted by: TheSkyIsntFalling | November 23, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

good thing gmgm was on the ball so we could have the extras we need on this road trip...NOT

Posted by: wendel2 | November 23, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

If only we had some cap space, we could recall an Oskar Osala or Chris Bourque to try and replace the offense that is out of our lineup. We need a trade bad. I'd be looking to move Morrisonn and Clark before Nylander. Could be more doable since they have lower cap hits.

Posted by: apva2 | November 23, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Not what I wanted to hear. It's going to take everyone playing a great game to pull off a win on Monday.

Posted by: cbs75 | November 23, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

This isnt good. Apva: i agree. Morrisonn and Clark have to go.

Posted by: sprkatya38 | November 23, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse


This team is hamstrung by the cap. Moving Nylander certainly would help.

For those who say Alzner and Lepisto aren't ready to play... Well have we seen from Jurcina and Erskine recently that would lead us to believe that they are ready?

The loss of Green exposes us so much more than I even realized. This system needs horses to make it work. Poti, as well as he is playing, isn't a horse, he's more like a gnu. Everyone else is a Cape Water Buffalo.

We can weather the storm with OV and Backstrom not scoring, Semin and Fedorov out with injury but Green is almost irreplaceable.

Posted by: JSchon | November 23, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

gee jshon who was it that said we weren't having cap problems just saving $ for later in the year. Glad we agree that gmgm needs to get off his butt and do some general managing to fix a sadly lacking squad

Posted by: wendel2 | November 23, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

im gald to see all the nay sayers are back. we missed you after the caps got hot, which could happen again mind you. the caps are hurting pretty bad but its still november, as long as we're ready for the stretch run i think thats what maters most. and i cant believe everyone is turning on our own captain. lets see where the team is in a week after the motreal game and after the team gets a few days rest.

Posted by: andy19 | November 23, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from Hershey (I'll try to abbreviate the amazingness that was last night)...
First off, I have never had such great seats for anything. (sidehillman, Jordan and I were all the way below you, on the glass behind the photographers between the benches). I'll try to get some pictures off my camera and post them. I intended to take more, but got into the game and forgot. The Giant Center itself is the best non-NHL arena I've been in. The in-game entertainment is good and the crowd definitely gets into the action. It was my friend's first hockey game and she absolutely loved it. (Mites on Ice was the kicker for her) It was great to meet tess, albeit quickly. Anyone who can go see the Bears and is thinking about it, do it!

We got to Hershey fairly early, just in time to watch the snow start. And it snowed. There was already some snow there, but it dumped another 2-3 inches in front of our hotel. Navigating the streets before the game got a bit difficult with the ice and the parking lot was just fun. (Skates might have been easier)

I agree with pretty much everything sidehillman said about our guys. The OPB rookie line was fun to watch. The guys have obviously built great chemistry and individually are as talented as they are together. The Bears really laid it on the Tigers in the third, although it helped that Bridgeport couldn't seem to stay out of the box the entire game.

Poor Alzner came in for a line change and swung his leg up over the boards, just as somebody was opening the bench door and he lost his balance. The trainer was trying to keep him from falling headfirst into the bench, and he ended up dumping him rather ungracefully in somebody's lap. I didn't know whether to be horrified for Karl's safety as he went headfirst in, or laugh at how confused he looked at the entire situation.

Went out after the game to Shakey's, which wasn't bad. Definitely a younger crowd. They put the Caps game on the big projection screen in the back. We watched the first two periods with the rest of the Caps fans (and lone Shark fan), but with the score as it was(and the fact that my car isn't really built for anywhere north of the Mason Dixon), we headed back to get some sleep before the 3rd started.
I feel bad for the guys, but hopefully these two losses push them harder. Heading back to Canes country for a few days, but I can't wait to see them at the VC on Wednesday. A trip to the VC & Caps hockey definitely take the sting out of being abandoned by my parents for the holiday. :P

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | November 23, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

As promised, photos from the game. Sorry they're a bit blurry. A new & better camera is on my Christmas list.

Posted by: jmu_capsgirl | November 23, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

capsgirl, thanks for that! -Dr. Adamson

Posted by: DrAdamson | November 23, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

@ capsgirl,

That was awesome! Thanks for taking the time to add all of the captions.

Thoroughly enjoyed.

P.S. Can Tarik have your old camera after Christmas?

Posted by: WCAPS1 | November 23, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Damn the sky is falling. We are FIRST in our division, and a whopping 5 points from the top in the Eastern Conf. And we have had to play with a injury depleted line-up. We are in alot better position a week before this T-giving, than last T-giving.

Posted by: Capsfannmiss | November 23, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Nice photos JMU!
And no the sky is not falling, but since defense was identified as a weakness ages ago, you'd think GMGM would have decided to do something about it by now, or at least make sure we have the cap space to let prospects see the big show and continue their development

Posted by: honed | November 23, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

jmu: Good photos of the guys. Glad you added those shots of the snow. That little storm was a total surprise...wasn't snowing at all when I left my house and headed for the game. It was nice to meet you. Glad you guys had fun. It's not the NHL, but it's really good hockey. And it's fun to watch the guys at the AHL level and then see them make the step up to the Caps (coaches too!).

Posted by: tess2201 | November 23, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Really guys? Trade Clark? The facts are that Jurcina sucked last year and still sucks this year. Nylander looks bad and if there is all this trade talk, he must be involved and open to moving with the trade clause in his contract. So, if he wants to go, he shouldn't be here. Peace.

But, Clark? Already you're calling for his head? Give him a chance to find his legs after 50+ games out. He's the captain and at least brings some humor, grit and determination to the group. I can wait Clarkie out to see where it goes. Not ready to cut that tie yet.

And Morrison? Again, really? I just don't see it. I get the frustration with the D and even Mo, but trade away? Well, I guess GMGM does have good trade sense since Cookie, Huet and Feds were good pulls last season. But our goaltending today is....oh yeah, second-rate. That's hard for this Johnny fan to admit.


Giant Center is pretty awesome, yes? And a good crowd - nearly full on weekends. Can't wait to see the Bears on Wednesday night in front of a roaring home crowd. Should be sold out! Just wish McNeill or Robitaille were around to make the perfect game with a good ole-fashioned fight.

Posted by: DCwho | November 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

The Bears game last night was AWESOME! I had my camera, but I didn't have any cards! WAAH! I had a great shot of Chris Bourque all lined up, and... what the? click-click-nada. Cr@p. 3&*!@*^^%$!^&$%(

Thoroughly enjoyed the game, though. Sound Tigers looked like they fell apart in the last third, though... Glad the Bears were able to do something with it!

Posted by: irockthered | November 23, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Another son of Patrick Roy acting like a schutebag, the night before his Dad's number is retired by the Habs.

Posted by: Section117 | November 23, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I am reposting an answer to Randdino from a previous post"

"For the person that said that we're not that deep. We are. We have plenty of players in Hershey who might be able to do well on the NHL level. ..." -randdino.

The key word in your statement is "might". I believe the Caps gave all the players you mentioned a chance to crack the team, none of them made it. That is not deep NHL talent yet. Maybe in the future they will be. As bad as some of our current players look, they were chosen over the others for a reason. There is a big difference between AHL and NHL.

I think GMGM is smart enough to find money space if that was the only reason for not bringing players up, so I don't buy into that excuse. I think we have a lot of "potentential talent" in the AHL but until proven that is all they are. Remember how everyone couldn't wait until we got Fehr? According to most posting here, he was going to be a great addition. I like Fehr, but he is not what everyone thought he was going to be, he is at best a third liner right now. As I said, AHL and NHL are two different leagues.

Can the Caps be improved? Yes. But you can't revamp a team every time they or someone has a bad game. It is a long season, have patience, I am sure GM and coaches are doing the best they can.

Posted by: opita | November 23, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I was one of the many that said taht there was not a cap problem. We are up against it and I still say it is not a problem. It is a reality. We have some underperforming players on a team that has done pretty darn well so far and will improve by the end of the year. We may need to make a trade, maybe not. Our injury situation is a concern. What team wouldn't be in trouble with comparable injuries. It is still early in the season. As others have said, the sky is not falling.

Posted by: _Mark | November 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse


Eric Fehr... Do you honestly think he has gotten a true and honest trial to determine what he is capable of?

Lets look at our 3rd liners...

Gordon - 18 games 1G 5A +1 14:02 ATOI 22SOG
Bradley - 20 games 2G 1A -1 10:36 ATOI 28SOG
Laich - 20 games 5G 6A -1 17:25 ATOI 36SOG
Steckel - 17 games 3G 3A -3 13:54 ATOI 26SOG

Fehr - 9 games 1G 2A +1 10:04 ATOI 16SOG

if you gave Fehr Gordons minutes his stats would be...

Gordon = 252 minutes played
Fehr = 90 minutes played
3G 6A +3 48SOG

I dont have to do the rest of the math, but Fehr performance is very comparable to anyones besides OV/Back/Semin.

He also assisted on the GWG vs PIT and scored the GWG against TB.

Please do not try to fool me on Fehr.

Posted by: JSchon | November 23, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Ignorance at its finest.

To allow for the destruction and reconstruction by the same team manager is laughable.

Wow, you'd think the team would be in far better shape given the picks and youth, not looking good, especially when people ask, what's gonna happen after old man Feds is gone.

At least Alzner is NOT Pokuluk, so they have something going for them.

Posted by: Cheef | November 24, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Trade Clark yesterday, poor guy needs a change and a chance, at getting his game back, will not happen in DC.

Nyalnder & Jozy ? Keep hope alive.

Posted by: Cheef | November 24, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

South Carolina won 10-0 today.


Posted by: TheRealOneal | November 24, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

What gave you the idea that I was trying to fool you on Fehr?
I did not compare Fehr to any of the players you are listing. As a matter-of-fact I did not compare him to anyone in particular. Furthermore, I think I said I liked him, but that, as of now, he is not better than a third liner. I think you are reinforcing my point, as you do not compare or suggest that he plays in one of the two top lines.
Anyway, my point in my answer to Randdino, and maybe it could have been made better, is that the guys in the AHL might be looking good playing in the AHL but it does not necessarily translate to be successful in the NHL. I just gave Fehr as an example because last year there was this cry for Fehr as if he was going to be some kind of savior for our losing team. Now I hear the same cries for some of the guys playing with the Bears. I like Fehr, I think he has potential and needs more ice time but given the team's current make-up how do you suggest he gets it? I think I leave it up to the coach as he knows better than I do. I think he is aware of who he has. I don't agree with everything he does (e.g. Nylander in the 4th line) but I only know what I see on the TV and an occassional live game, and that does not make an expert.

Posted by: opita | November 24, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

My point opita, is that you say Fehr isnt the world beater... that he isnt the answer... that he is "at best" a 3rd liner...

How the "F" do you or I know this?

Has he gotten a fair shake?

No, he hasn't.

My point is he is as good as any of our current 3rd liners... And being a 3rd liner when you have Semin and Kozlov (who benefits from OV and Backstrom) as 1st and 2nd line RW's isn't a bad thing.

There was no cry for Fehr last year, but when he did play, especially in the playoffs, he showed he belonged.

The coaching staff, whom I trust, have decided to stick with the veterans, ok fine.

But when you claim that Fehr is no better than a 3rd liner, then that should make some of our current NHL Capitals AHL'ers.

Posted by: JSchon | November 24, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Jschon, it is not my argument, but I think you are missing opita's point and for some reason you have taken it to heart to defend fehr which Opita was not attacking.
I agree with Opita, there was a cry for fehr last year by many posters, and on this team he is not better than a 3d liner. But again, I think you are missing his point which is that you can not expect an AHL'er to come and make this team better just because he is doing well in the lower league. It is too much to expect, and after all they did get beat out on training camp by the current NHL'er.
His point is well taken, at least by me. By the way, in no way did I take that he was down in fehr, on the contrary, I think he made it clear that he liked him. I don't want to speak for opita, but I think he is saying the sky is not falling just because of one or two bad games. So relax.

Posted by: x1232 | November 24, 2008 3:15 AM | Report abuse

LOL @ giving Clark 50+ games to "find his legs"

Yet the same person is ready to dismiss Nylander after 19.

Posted by: notfadeaway | November 24, 2008 4:43 AM | Report abuse

I think this is a must win game tonight, we need to split the four games... but Niklas Backstrom is a very good goaltender...

Posted by: rachel216 | November 24, 2008 6:41 AM | Report abuse

@notfadeaway - that was giving Clark time to find his legs after he MISSED 50+ games last season, not give him 50+ games this season to findh is legs... :-)

Posted by: irockthered | November 24, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Backstrom shoots! Backstrom SAVES, passes to Schultz. Woops, Schultz misses the rebound; it's picked up by Schultz! Schultz passes to Backstrom, GOOOOOAL! Backstrom beats Backstrom on the backhand!

(Yes, they have a Schultz, too. Nick Schultz.)

This is going to be one amusing game for the color commentators...

Posted by: irockthered | November 24, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

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