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Morrisonn, Fedorov Listed as Day-to-Day (Updated)

Because teams aren't required to divulge much about injuries under the NHL's new guidelines, details are hard to come by in regard to Shaone Morrisonn and Sergei Fedorov. Neither player participated in today's informal optional practice, and a team official would only say that both are day-to-day.

We know Morrisonn has a groin pull, and I saw him exit through a side door, walking without a limp. I'm not a doctor, but that's a pretty sure sign that it's probably not too bad. Fedorov's injury is unknown, but I'm told it's not believed to be serious, either.

Update:

*As far as the injuries, Coach Bruce Boudreau said he's not sure if either Morrisonn or Fedorov will be able to face the Rangers tomorrow. If both cannot play, Boudreau said the Caps will be forced to make a recall, which would likely be Tyler Sloan.

"I don't think Mo is anything like he's going on IR or anything," Boudreau said. "Whether Saturday's game would be beneficial to take the day off, we'll see tomorrow morning."

If Morrisonn can't play, but Fedorov can, then it looks like Boudreau will be forced to break up the all-Russian line, which he said he's reluctant to do.

*Boudreau said he's leaning toward playing Brent Johnson for a third consecutive game against New York.

"You'll probably see Brent," Boudreau said. That kind of confirms what happened on the ice today: Jose Theodore took shots while Brent Johnson took the day off.

*As for Alex Ovechkin and his career-long eight game goal-less drought, Boudreau said:

"I wish I could put a finger on it," Boudreau said. "He seems to work as hard as ever. His enthusiasm is right there. I think people just go through these things. He's going to come out of it, and he's going to come out of it really well."

"He's 23," he added. "He's not slowing down. If it's mental, then I don't know because I'm not inside him. He seems to be the same person. I'm not going to make a problem where there's no problem just because people's expectations are that he should have 12 goals in 12 games."


By Tarik El-Bashir  |  November 7, 2008; 11:03 AM ET
 
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Tarik, anyone else missing from the optional practice?

Posted by: _stevo | November 7, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

This injury thing's stupid. Why not just suspend a player who goes after another player's injury?

Injuries should only be private if the player requests privacy (i.e. exploding testicle syndrome, or whatever).

Players should have enough honor not to target someone in that way.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | November 7, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

@DrinkingPartner

Players SHOULD be honorable enough.. but there will always be Flyers in the league.

Posted by: _jordan | November 7, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

_jordan

Players SHOULD be honorable enough.

Targeting injuries is a shameful act for sure...but I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that even the most honorable player will try to use an injury to his advantage...and I don't think there's anythign wrong with that.

I'm not saying that it's ok for someone to intentionally aggravate an injury, but I think it's ok to force the other player to think about the injury...take his mind off his game a bit.

Posted by: Yoshietree | November 7, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Kittypawz

People on the list think I am a Josie basher. Truth is I was much more of a You_Eh basher (never trusted he was the real thing) and was happy when we signed JT over You-Eh. I too had a wait and see attitude. Well opening night I saw the first shot go in the net through his 5 hole and that pattern just kept on. It is not like he is new to the league, I've watched Josie melt down and suck on a number of teams (and cause problems in the locker room on a couple) so I see no reason to wait for a quarter of the season to be over. His save percentage sucks, his goals against sucks, sit him on the bench, let him play once in a while in back to back games and see if he shows up sooner or later. The truth is Colorado got knocked out of the playoffs last year because JT let in soft goals in the 2nd round. He would still be in Denver if they thought he could take them farther.

Posted by: majiksea | November 7, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Tarik,

Maybe you've already mentioned it... but who got the hard hat last night?

Posted by: Tracy2117 | November 7, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

DrinkingPartner

While I wholeheartedly agree with you, it would be almost impossible to police. In some cases, like if Pothier ever comes back, a clear shot to the injured area may be intentionally done, in the heat of the game it would be almost impossible to definitively state that there was intent to injure.

Posted by: Greg S. | November 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Tracy217,
I saw it mentioned that Johhny got it. H e was VERY deserving as were several guys. I could not be happier for the guy.

Posted by: Riddler1 | November 7, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Did anybody notice what started the Schultz/Walker mini scrum?

Great win last night, but I almost threw my beer from the 400's when Ovechkin passed instead of shooting from the slot in the first.

Posted by: SombreroGuy | November 7, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Has there been any sightings of the doom and gloom crowd, or did they go into hiding until the next loss?

Posted by: Steve_R | November 7, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

time to get some flow and stick with lines - federov, semin, ovie -- nylander, flash, laich -- backstrom, kozlov, clark -- brash, steckel, gordon (put gordon on a wing and sit bradley for a bit). there was no flow on any line last night other than the russian line. and green's got to stop being an imposter. he was truly horrible last night, and hasn't really played well in weeks. he reflects a team problem: absolutely no urgency. they had 10 minutes of urgent hockey last night and they dominated those 10 minutes. the rest of the game was a meandering walk in the park. they're not the red wings yet!

Posted by: bjoad | November 7, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

From the Malkin/Ovie article earlier...gotta love that the Pittsburgh press still says Malkin ducked that head vs. Green skating by and Ovie having to redirect himself.

Posted by: keeef | November 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Errr...ducked that hit, not head. But I guess that's applicable too.

Posted by: keeef | November 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

OK, Tarik! A "moment" is long gone now. It's been an hour. :D

Posted by: Greg S. | November 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

When I played hockey, if I knew a guy had a hurt something, I'd try to exploit it. IE - if a d-man had a pulled groin, I'd outlet pass to the guy who'd press on him. Knee, same thing. I don't consider myself dirty for doing so. Did I try and injure him more? No. But if you're playing hurt, players on EVERY TEAM will say they won't target it, but everyone knows they do.

I like the injury policy. I wish they would take it farther, and just go "He's injured and out DTD."

The only people who give a damn about the details are fantasy owners and the media. If he is hurt, I don't need to know what's wrong, I can understand the guy is hurt.

Posted by: Whitermage | November 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Steve_R

"Has there been any sightings of the doom and gloom crowd, or did they go into hiding until the next loss?"

I guess I can fill that role today. Yes the Caps took 2 points last night...and they were a huge 2 points. But let's be real...

- the powerplay looked nothing short of atrocious.
- Johnson looked great in goal, the defense in front of him looked bad.
- Breakouts were a problem all night.
- Coverage was bad a good amount of the time.
- The Caps allowed 34 SOG, only 9 of them from the outside.

Do you want me to go on?

Posted by: Yoshietree | November 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Grade 1, 2 or 3?

Groin strains are graded 1, 2, or 3 depending on how bad they are.
The athlete with a grade 1 strain might feel mild discomfort, possibly a little tenderness at a particular point but no swelling.
A grade 2 strain might feel more painful with swelling, pain to touch, reduced range of motion and interference with running.
A grade 3 strain may be very painful, lots of swelling and total inability to run or even walk.

What can the athlete do?

Apply R.I.C.E. (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation) immediately.
Rest and use crutches if needed.
See a sports injury professional who can advise on rehabilitation of the injury.
For a grade 3 strain seek professional help immediately.
What can a sports injury specialist or doctor do?

Use ultrasound or laser treatment.
Use sports massage techniques after the acute phase. These are extremely important.
Operate if the muscle has torn completely.
Advise on a rehabilitation programme consisting of soft tissue treatment, stretching, strengthening and sports massage.
A partial rupture of the adductor muscles will often lead to inflammation of the groin after the initial rupture has healed.

Posted by: CodePoetry | November 7, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Greg:
Yeah, I agree, though I think it'd be easier to spot an attack on a 'joint' injury (knees, elbows, ankles) than it would a head injury. Technically speaking, head-shots are already illegal (though not especially enforced -- see: Brandon Sutter), and therefore would already be punished. It's all the other stupid little pokes and prods that intentionally hurt players that I'd be after with that plan.

Posted by: DrinkingPartner | November 7, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Yes, and all those pokes and prods would be REALLY hard to call intentional.

Posted by: Greg S. | November 7, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Tarik,

What's the deal with live chats? Not gonna be a thing this year?

Posted by: TheVampireCorndog | November 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

The scrum (The Schultz one) was shown in brief somewhere in the middle of the NHL.com highlight of the game - if it's still up.

Posted by: austinsteve | November 7, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Atta boy Yosh, by all means go on.

Posted by: Steve_R | November 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I posted the link to the Caps post-game interviews long after most of you ESTers were probably in bed counting falling Semins. There's a link on the caps main page now:
http://capitals.nhl.com/index.html

We should all watch the Ovie and Backstrom postgame interviews and cut them serious slack for the Rangers game. I think they should know that we fans don't expect/need those two to score that game, we just want to see them to skate hard and have fun.

Posted by: austinsteve | November 7, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Tarik,

Do you know if it is a grade 1,2 or 3 pull?

Laich was limping pretty bad last night...Is that nothing more then a bruise?

Posted by: SA-Town | November 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

We want the Gold Medal line, and nothing but the Gold Medal line! Get better Sergei, the Caps need you up front!

Posted by: DrAdamson | November 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

How could he possibly know the grade. Did you read? It says they aren't disclosing it.

Posted by: amorris525 | November 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Probably grade 1 or 2, otherwise he would limp.

From Yahoo Answers:
"I looked up on the internet and found out I have a grade 3 groin strain! I feel pain when I walk and have to limp very slowly.
oh it might be grade 2 but the site I went on and checked on said it was grade 3.

I couldn't walk for 2 days, and now when I walk normally it hurts heaps, I have to limp around and that still hurts a little.

Also, the worst pain is when I try to lift my leg up when i'm sitting down. After a Painful struggle I finally get it about 2 inchs off the ground but I cant get it any higher.

if thats grade 2 well then I cant imaging what grade 3 would be."

Posted by: CodePoetry | November 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I'd say grade 1, because Tarik says he didn't limp. Some rest and he'll be back soon.

Posted by: CodePoetry | November 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Happy with the win but this teams needs to worry about the effort put on the ice rather that the fancy commercials and all the hardware collected last year. No team is going give a half-a@@ effort against this team and they shouldn't expect anyone to roll over and play dead because of the potential this team has.

Whoever said that they need to play with urgency for the full 60 min above is dead-on. They can dominate when they do but when they are sloppy, you see all kinds of intercepted passes which leads to odd-man rushes (hence the 30-40 SOG against every game).

Let's go already! There is no reason this team shouldn't break out 8-10 wins in a row.

Posted by: Moose33 | November 7, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

BB: "He seems to be the same person. I'm not going to make a problem where there's no problem just because people's expectations are that he should have 12 goals in 12 games."

Wayne Scanlan, The Ottawa Citizen: "Underneath the stringy hair, standing behind the bank of microphones and cameras in the Washington Capitals dressing room, Alexander Ovechkin looked weary, diminished somehow.

Whether he was a little world weary after the events of the past week, or physically tired from the travel to Russia and back, wasn't clear, but I don't remember him looking this small.

A smirk here and a smile there was the closest we got to the old Ovie."

Posted by: CodePoetry | November 7, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Steve_R

"Atta boy Yosh, by all means go on."

You disagree? I mean you had to have watched the same game as the rest of us.

I'm not trying to say they aren't a talented team. But I am saying that something needs to be done defensively sooner than later.

The powerplay....there is absolutely no excuse to have both Backstrom and Nylander out there at the same time. Bottom line is there is way too much passing and looking for a highlight goal....which is especially a problem when the ice is the quality it was last night.

Why GMGM decided to resign Flatfoot Erskine to another two years is beyond me. He's by far the weakest link in an already weak defensive corps...

Mike Green needs to focus on defense. His serious lapses are ok when he's scoring goals, but right now he's a giveaway machine that can't complete an outlet pass.

It's almost to the point where my joking comment about making him a winger should be taken seriously.

Chris Clark belongs in the press box or on the 4th line right now. I'm not sure if it's his groin acting up, him not being fully recovered or him just losing a step, but I'd rather Eric Fehr or Chris Borque out there.

/I'm being the naysayer on purpose, there were also a lot of positives from last night, but I didn't see anything that said the storm has passed

//As good as the Russian three looked last night, I'm not a fan. Semin and OV need to be on different lines and the one line that's shown chemistry this year got broken up.

Posted by: Yoshietree | November 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Bears blog says Sloan is hurt (he missed their last game) so will he be ok to call up?

Posted by: wendel2 | November 7, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

fyi
last I heard Sloan was hurt and not even making the Bears road trip -- and Arsene is out so the Bears D is getting to be a bit limited too --- maybe Erskine can play 30 minutes for us since GMGM likes him so much

Posted by: capsgary | November 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

are we that much better than last year that Steckel and Fehr are not good enough to play? Clark could use a rest give him one

Posted by: wendel2 | November 7, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Sloan and Arsene are both out last I heard. I would like to see Lepisto brought up, if Sloan is still out.

Posted by: capschick52 | November 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Erskine will play 60 minutes if he has too.

Posted by: SA-Town | November 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

no way jose = boom outta here

Posted by: _stevo | November 7, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SombreroGuy | November 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

SombreroGuy

Better stats than Jose :)

Posted by: Yoshietree | November 7, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Trade Jose to NJ, promote Johnson, and bring up Varmalov.

Posted by: mnmnt_snow | November 7, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Dave:
You're not going to leave me hangin' ALL weekend, are you?!? ;-)

Posted by: Boo- | November 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Sombrero:
From what I could see they just got tangled up. Totally innocent until the Cane (Walker? HA - that's kinda punny! ;-)) got chippy.

Posted by: Boo- | November 7, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Laich should be fine. He skated today and was walking around without a limp.

As far as Sloan goes, we are fully aware that he's got an upper body issue. But Boudreau said he *could* be ready to play by tomorrow night.

Posted by: el_bashir | November 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

@steve
doom and gloom is more realistic than dumb and glib

Posted by: wendel2 | November 7, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know what happened to Brind'Amour? Not terribly concerned, but there was a lot of blood on the ice.

Posted by: ShariLeigh131 | November 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Why does FEDS have to go to D if he's able to play and Mo isn't? Call up Lepisto if Sloan is hurt. Keep the Vegas line going!
- Despite a better game last night, Erskine is terrible.
- Mike Green is killing me watching him try and "softly" deke a pass deep from the point. Happened twice last night that he hit the puck right into a Cane. Hit it where they ain't!
- Not much I like better than a couple of beers and watching Brashear beat the snot out of Brookbank. Very entertaining.
- Backstrom looked great from beginning to end. Hopefully he keeps it up.
- Maybe the ice is so bad because Nylander is skating too many circles and making the ice even more choppy?
- Lastly - SHOOT THE PUCK!!
Go CAPS!

Posted by: Shipdriver | November 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

@ShariLeigh131

Yeah, I think he got a stick to the nose on Semin's GWG. Not sure though.


Re: Erskine

Say what you want about our lumberjack hero, but he at least knows how to do something the rest of the team is having a hard time figuring out. Shooting the puck. :)

Posted by: keeef | November 7, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh no! Not Sloan! He is terrible!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | November 7, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I believe the ice is so bad due more to humidity than heat (but heat does not help either). The NHL came last spring to assess the ice and told the Caps that dehumidifiers would help a lot. But the Caps cannot install the dehumidifiers because Abe Polin owns the majority share in the building. He doesn't think buying industrial strength dehumidifiers will help out his bottom line enough, and Ted doesn't have enough power to force Ab's hand.

Posted by: JIMALLCAPS | November 7, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Abe also keeps the building at 75 degrees, where most buildings at ice level are closer to 50. Then you add fans heat in the mix and ice does nothing but melt. Abe sucks - needs to sell the building. Does anyone care about the Wizards anyways - seriously!

Posted by: lylewimbledon | November 7, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Boo!,
Well I can certainly see where you got that name from! Had me scared!

Posted by: DaveUKCapsFan | November 7, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I say screw Pollin. Ted should buy out Ballston Mall and tear out all the crappy stores there and turn it into a big hockey venue.

Posted by: mnmnt_snow | November 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

@mnmnt_snow only if he leave Rock bottom there and we can get their beer during the games

Posted by: doncosmic | November 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

RockBottom beer gives me the farts.I say leave Rockbottom there and then kick Bailey's out, have a bunch of us come in and dirty it up and call up Dr. Dremo's to take over the spot.

And yes, we should be able to get beer wherever we want.

Posted by: mnmnt_snow | November 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

While I'm still dreaming, we should put the current Verizon ushers into a pit at the so-called Ballston Ice Center and have people with potato guns pelt them from a vantage point above.

Posted by: mnmnt_snow | November 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

calling up sloan is all good ad dandy, but hes day to day with the bears, why would oyu bring a player in whos just coming back from an injury give lepisto a shot...

to the person that said bring varlamov up, he hasnt played a game in 3 weeks, and the kid def needs to play in north america for a year, he hasnt looked bad, but hes def not an nhl goalie quite yet

Posted by: bearsfan26 | November 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

We don't have too many options of bringing anyone up due to salary cap reasons...hence why we are calling up Sloan who sucks but is cheap.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | November 7, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody know what happened to the Carolina player bloodied on the ice when Semin got his second goal? I watched the replay several times, but couldn't identify what happened.

Posted by: gds855 | November 7, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

brind'amour got hit with the follow through of semins shot...under nhl rule the player shooting is not responsible for his follow through, as it is uncontrollable, not sure but i think the carolina coach was complaning there was no call, but couldnt really see if he was complaining or not

Posted by: bearsfan26 | November 7, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

how does Sloan suck...I must of missed that when I watched him play. He is hardly any worse than any of our other defenseman, so I guess you're saying our entire defense sucks. That statement makes more sense than singling out Sloan. What do you expect from him? He's a cheap, yet decent replacement when one of our guys goes down; let's leave it at that.

Posted by: reesem37 | November 7, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

i regards to whoever asked if anyone cared about the wizards......the answer is no and the same goes for entire nba

Posted by: _stevo | November 7, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the Verizon Center ice is terrible. I've skated on it before.

I was at the Buffalo game last weekend and the temperature inside was around 55 degrees. Also, I was at the game last night and the temperature felt around 70; humidity was probably high as well.

If you want to help the team and Ted out with the poor ice conditions, contact Gary Handleman of the Washington Sports & Enetertainment. He's the Director of Facilities. Here's the WSE contact information

http://www.verizoncenter.com/about/contact.shtml

It helps if you keep your comments clean and to the point (in this case, not the blue line). No dropping the "F" bombs or the like!

Posted by: puckman | November 7, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Rod did get hit with Semin's stick and the Carolina coach did not say a word that I saw. He may have asked the refs, but was not upset about the non call. It was in a place where he could obviously see what happened and was unfortunate, but just one of those things. Hope Rod is OK, guess I'll see in a bit when the game starts tonight. I'll let you know if he is playing and what he looks like if so.

Posted by: majiksea | November 7, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

@ majiksea

thanks, from where i was sitting it kinda looked like he was upset and was yelling, but im blind anyway, haha

Posted by: bearsfan26 | November 7, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I agree, if Mo can't go but Feds can, callup a Dman anyway. Feds is our #1 center for now, and that Russian gold medal line is probably the greatest one in Caps history. Keep it on the ice at all costs!

Posted by: DrAdamson | November 7, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

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